Killing Eve: Season 4 Was Made to Antagonise Me... Let Me Explain | REVIEW / RANT
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- Soo, I just watched the final season of Killing Eve... let's talk about it!
CHAPTER TIMES:
0:00 Another Show Bites the Dust
02:55 Eve
11:06 Villanelle
16:36 That DISASTROUS Finale
17:57 So They Didn't Understand the Assignment...
22:12 The 'Bury Your Gays' Problem
24:26 Carolyn
26:40 Konstantin & Pam
28:04 Final Thoughts & Ratings
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"You've already killed the vibe. Why kill the character?" lmaooo
She nailed the entire 4th season with that one line! 🎯😂
Riiiiight??? I truly died 💀 ⚰️
Also don't get me started on Laura Neal's response saying that Villanelle's death is Eve's rebirth, this woman did not understand that the point was that they should end up accepting for Eve her "dark' side and Villanelle her side that longed for normalcy, and meeting in the middle and finding this love and solace with eachother, by killing Villanelle they basically said if you're a flawed woman that strays from the path paved by society all you deserve is death and heartbreak... Not great
A REBIRTH?!?!?! So the love of Eve’s life dying in the Thames was supposed to be her baptism?!?!!? Ooohh Miss Laura didn’t just not understand the assignment, she was in the wrong fucking class 😤😤😤
@@JeannesMovieChats Lmaoo yeah her last interview was something else 😭 I don’t know who let her work on this show 😔
And on top of that Villanelle was also a victim of the true psychopaths in The 12 and Carolyn. Her mother was a sociopath who put her in an orphanage out of jealousy. She was def an F'd up child who needed help but instead got The 12 and "molded" per Dasha to become an assassin. She wasn't born a psycho she was groomed to act like one.
Dasha - Konstantin - Carolyn - Helene - Gunn: those were the born psychos. Carolyn really evil.
THIS. She was gifted the stewardship of the most iconic queer romance ever put to screen and didn't just totally wreck it, she hammered in the inexpressibly harmful age-old message that deviance should be corrected or culled, and then somehow frankensteined the whole show into one long allegory for conversion therapy... And this was just days after the government here in the UK explicitly endorsed it continuing to be legal in certain circumstances. I've never been angrier at an ending to anything *ever*.
@@bruadarach9758 fr, villaneve are literally one of the most iconic sapphic ships and she fucked it. I will never not be mad about it. Let's just pretend Eve rescued Villanelle after and they're going on campervan road trips rn
The whole episode 8 could be an entire season. The two of them working together, maybe fighting, slowly getting together .. would be making more sense.
@Bone Shells yes :/
This is what I thought all of season 4 was gonna be to hunt down the 12 members one by one. What a waste. I want PWB to re-do S2 to S4.
@@itisejay mee too. Still not over the show. And I hope that they make a movie to fix it.
OMG right??? Episode 8 is literally all I thought the last season would be! The two of them in love and working together to take down the 12.
@@jpage813 still not over it. They really messed up. I can recommened you a short manga, which someone drew with an alternative ending. Its so good.
"No one cares about the 12!"- Yes! This storyline simultaneously confused and bored me to tears. I couldn't wrap my head around why the writers seemed so determined to waste the entire final season on less interesting characters like Helene and everyone chasing Carolyn's former boyfriend. Villanelle dying and the abrupt end made me furious! I feel like after the brilliance that was Seasons 1 & 2 the writers completely lost their mojo. Like you I'm still not over the disappointment. RIP Villanelle.
The S4 writer didn't understand the characters, the mission, or the show. I read she didn't think there was love between V and E, and that even the kiss between them she wanted to seem non romantic (whatever that means). She also wanted Eve screaming at the end to mean a rebirth, and triumph, for Eve to start a new life.
this to me screams of homophoba, seeing queer characters as there to only further hetero storylines I heard that even Sandra Oh said they viewed the relationship of Eve and VIllanelle as a stage for Eve. ANd thus they wanted it non romantic
@@LandisLL They set us up big time. I feel like they baited us and are now gaslighting us all. They literally had Eve seeming somewhat suicidal because her life was that lost without Villanelle. I'm actually offended by everything coming out after the fact. They should've just killed them both, and left us to think they were together somewhere.
I don't see how you can call it anything but queerbaiting and homophoboa
@@LandisLL yeah LN is definitely homophobic. Where did you hear that about Sandra oh?
Nah, Laura was homophobic and not even trying to hide it. The final season was random, written like a bad fan fiction and it shoves religion down our throats as if the queer community has not been psychologically and emotionally attacked enough through the use of religion. I am livid that this script has had many eyes on it and still greenlit. They really spit in our faces with the entirety of the last season, not just the last few minutes.
"you've already killed the vibe, why kill the character" EXACTLY RIGHT
Girl, the writers acted like season 3 ep 8 never happened! I was totally disgusted with this season..until episode 8 and all these wonderful moments with Villaneve. The kissing scene was absolutely wonderful and then the writers lost their minds with that end!
Right?! Imagine undoing all your (and previous writers’) hard work with ONE DUMB DUMB decision???? The second half of that finale is not canon to me idfc 😭🤧
No one is talking about them making out after peeing outside without washing their hands. This show so did my girls dirty
@@thebunnyfoofoo yes, thank you.
@@thebunnyfoofoowhy? When did their hands get dirty? 🤔
I hate that they just completely forgot about the end of season 3 the way villanele let eve chose for herself on the bridge when she told her to "turn around and walk away" showing how much villanelle really changed from "You're mine" to be free. And the fact they just completely wasted such a beautiful opportunity completely forgetting what they built up on it feels like they just ended it at season 3 and started a completely different show in season 4 because none of it makes sense
The way nothing made sense 😭😭😭 They just randomly had Eve mad at Villanelle with no explanation!?!?!
You're so right about V's character development too. Thrown away as if it was trash
Sis you spoke no lies. Not ONE lie. “You already killed the vibe why kill the character?” Is the whole damn thing. Thank goodness for Sandra’s mastery and Jodie’s ridiculous talent. The writers got so lost after S2, they should have ended it all.
It might be because the last two and a half years have made me extra fragile, but I actually cried because I was so frustrated. I've never had that kind of reaction to a TV show or movie in my life. When "THE END" was so abruptly superimposed on the screen after that half-baked final act it felt like a slap in the face, and I couldn't believe it. And after waiting through 7 prior episodes for the writing to get better and giving Neal the benefit of the doubt that she would bring the story to some semblance of a cogent conclusion? The betrayal. I can't even.
You obviously weren't a Game of Thrones fan because I'm absolutely convinced the last season started the apocalypse lmao. It was so bad and broke my heart. I literally expect bad endings to everything now. It doesn't help they use the same, lover kills lover or lovers die with unrequited love tropes. Even Star Wars did it!
@@candypritchett83 No, I'm not a GOT fan. I never understood the hype and never thought highly of Weiss or Benioff as writers in the first place. But I understand the comparison - I don't think I've seen the fan base of a show take to social media this angrily since GOT ended. Which is a testament to how badly Neal messed up here.
Killing Eve felt like it derailed in slow motion over the course of two series (3 & 4), and I think collectively viewers were holding out hope on the promise of A) the first and second series, and final scenes of Eve & Villanelle together in the S3 finale, B) Phoebe Waller-Bridge's name recognition, even though she wasn't writing latter seasons (but at this point when people see her name on their screen, they expect a certain level of cohesion), C) the reasonable expectation that Heathcote & Neal had some basic understanding of what story they were telling (or that a room full of relatively savvy writers would at least know better than to pull a Kill Your Gays to wrap it all up).
Watching the show derail as gradually as it did, there were so many opportunities to correct course that by the time we got to the end, I think a lot of viewers were feeling a high level of compounded frustration.
It also just felt like an insult to Oh and Comer. They're formidable performers and to end what was generally a strong show worthy of their involvement by giving them such garbage to work with is something I find to be really infuriating. They deserved better.
@@candypritchett83 On a happier note, I'm very thankful for S2 of Russian Doll. It was a great palate cleanser 😂
@@AE1P I am an avid reader so I think I took D&D's interpretation to the heart and I was destroyed by the carelessness of it all. Forgetting surnames. Coffee cups and water bottles left in scenes. Out of character actions that devastated an entire fanbase..so honestly I was prepared for the KE ending to not stack up to par. It's a bummer to walk into a movie and know what's going to happen because it's the same story with just different characters. I'll never forgive D&D for taking that away from me. I actually want to begin writing some screenplays with the hopes one might catch someone's eye. You never know.
@@AE1P I do find Outlander to be very close to the novel's and pleasantly surprised with the author's involvement. The characters are rich and vibrant and you are immersed into this world with Claire who was a 1940s nurse and discovered she's a time traveler by accident. Imagine being a semi modern woman thrown into 1700s Scotland? I tune in every episode and gladly only been slightly disappointed in a few filler episodes.
Completely agree with everything you said, especially about no one watching for the 12 and that they didn't understand the assignment. What a gift they were given with that chemistry. And if they didn't know what to do with the characters, they could always have looked at the books, which funnily enough (!) involve Eve and Villanelle spending a lot more time together working and relationship wise. Such a shame.
omg seriously !! they wasted their chemistry so much by keeping them apart for so long. Then they finally showed us how they act as a couple at the very final episode of the final season only for them to ruin the fun after a few minutes lmaoosskdjdk.
@@eveismthey clearly thought they were building some kind of tension, but also clearly have never taken screenwriting 101. All of it was forced and confusing. And they reverted to some kind of bizarre subtext like we were watching Xena in 1997. Hellooo, we waited so long, and they really thought everything was just building to a single kiss? Ok, Moonlighting.
So weird.
Killing Eve spoiled my weekend. Instead of enjoying my time off from work, I was stressed and depressed after their use of the Bury the Gay move. By bullets, sounds familiar.
I will never forgive them for what they did to V but I feel for Jodie Comer the most. They annihilated V with so much stupidity I couldn’t even cry about it. Thinking about what JC could’ve done with this season … an epic television tragedy of momentous proportions. The episodes should’ve been trashed and never allowed to hit the screen.
That was the worst part. They had just given V a death scare only a couple episodes prior with an arrow to the back, so when she got shot in the back on the boat I literally was like, “what, again? Come on…oh…wait, what?” And it just…ended. So unremarkable; out of nowhere, confusing, and anticlimactic. Horrible writing.
This season was so disconnected from S1-3….how do you end season 3 with a scene like that and start season 4 with Eve being so standoffish towards V after all she said in season 3. And then they give us the tiniest bit of see them both give into their hearts and experiencing such happiness to erase what was a great show/fan base in the span of 3 minutes. What in the actual fuck?
Exactly! They did not even explained why Eve was being like that to V.
What the fuck indeed 😩
Right? It’s like they forgot how the last season ended. What a waste to an amazing story and characters. Though I have nothing but admiration for Jodie and Sandra, they acted brilliantly.
@@JeannesMovieChats it’s a tragedy and a travesty. Like damn, I know they all talk about scenes and things but did no one have the balls to be like, um yeah, this isn’t how the characters would be or this doesn’t make sense for blah blah
@@KristinaHarrowthe wasted potential still hurts the most. 💀
"you've already killed the vibe, why kill off the character!" 🤣 seriously thank you for thos great review on just the content of plot and all tge holes. still grieving that it's over.
The writers COMPLETELY misunderstood the assignment, AND THEN, they failed the assignment they gave themselves! They didn’t give us what we wanted from Eve and Villanelle’s story, but then they gave us the absolutely most underwhelming end to the 12 we could’ve imagined. We didn’t even get to see their faces!
Spot on review!! This whole season was so disappointing. I also didn’t like how Eve had zero interest in Villanelle this season, they have villanelles unrequited feelings. Then they make it look like Eve only cares/goes to V in order to kill the 12, which V doesn’t care about. and Eve then has no part in killing them, despite working towards it all season…villanelle does it for her and Eve doesn’t really care that they’ve been killed. What? Stupidity.
🙌 LN is clearly just two kids in a trench coat. None of the season made any sense at all to any human adult with two eyes and a brain.
Killing off both Villanelle AND Konstantin really makes the idea of a Carolyn spin-off so much less alluring…
And since Villanelle was many people’s favorite character, most aren’t going to want to watch a story about the person that killed her.
They could’ve easily worked with the 12 plot line and had Villaneve by making Villanelle and Eve work together to uncover and take down the 12. They already went their separate ways in s3 and had a clean slate going into season 4. I was really confused about the animosity and need for revenge at the beginning of season 4. It felt very out of place.
Sis, you didn't tell one lie.
I suspect like you said, the writers didn't understand what we ( the audience ) were tuning in for every year? Eve and Villanelle = The Plot. That's it . We were all swooning watching their cute moments in episode 8. Sandra and Jodie knew what they needed to do for the fans and they delivered. It's clear that Sandra and Jodie's interpretation of the characters is more aligned with the viewing audience than the writers.
I was holding out hope that this season would give us some Murder Wives action. This ending made me so incredibly sad all week for all of the squandered potential. Sandra and Jodie had the best chemistry of any TV pairing I've seen in a long time. They are beautiful together, why not tap into that tension? I don't get it. You have the incredible legend Sandra Oh and a generational talent like Jodie Comer in her prime and, you can't figure out what to do? It's kind of unforgivable. They kept them apart for 2 seasons for..." reasons".
What hurts the most is that in the end, all the character arcs meant absolutely nothing. Villanelle is my favorite TV of all time. Just ICONIC, Jodie is the moment, she is the ONE. But, they got rid of someone so Iconic in such an anticlimactic and trite way, it was almost insulting.
So disappointed. Its just sad.
The moment the jesus alter-ego actually appeared on screen, I lost any interest i had in this show. That moment meant that the show lost any subtlety and depth that it had in the first two seasons.
Couldn't agree more with your take on Villanelle/Eve - I'm so frustrated by all the wasted potential! Villaneve are so iconic and it's actually painful that we'll never get to see them again, and that that's how they decided to wrap up their arc. Like you said - give us an open ending - let us use our imaginations - anything! I feel like I'm being driven to insanity by this bloody show LMAO it's good to see other people feel similarly
such a coincidence that you just posted this cause i literally just finished it and am so MAD
I'm so sorry! I hope this video brought you some catharsis after that horrendous finale! :(
It makes sense for the nature of killing eve that one of them might die at the end. I had somewhat made my peace with this.
However, what really pissed me off was how rushed and impersonal it was. Villanelle is so loved and so iconic, she deserved so much better. Not to be shot in the river Thames and then there promptly be ‘the end’ slapped across the screen. You didn’t even get a chance to feel the impact of her death because it was so ridiculously rushed! It was almost comical! I was just left completely speechless.
exactly what you said
i felt almost mocked by the way they plastered THE END over the screen not a minute after vilanelle died..
what a disservice to such a great and iconic, and loved character. none of us, including eve, got a moment to even come to terms with her death
what kind of ending is that?
it's like, "we're tired of you all complaining about not enough queerness", take that. THE END
I have to agree with you. The writers were thinking that this was a straight up spy thriller. I don't understand that attitude myself, because it stopped being a spy thriller after the bathroom meet in the first episode. I mean, take a look at the opening for Season 1 Episode 3 where Eve realizes that she'd met Villanelle in that bathroom and is sitting down to describe her to MI6. Even the original book writer switched things aroumd after watching the first season. The second book, which came out afterwards, suddenly took a turn into the same mutual obsession. (Here's a fun fact, in the books Villanelle is told to clean up the mess she made in London. When she asks "How?' Her handler says "By Killing Eve." Hence even the writer understood what they had in their hands.) After listen to all the comments from this seasons writer, I don't think she understood what she had in her hands. They gave us a spy movie ending when it most certainly should have been a romantic ending. Just like me and everyone else believe - Killing Eve should have ended exactly like 1996's Bound. It would have become icon.
"It stopped being a spy thriller after the bathroom meet in the first episode" THANK YOU. I'm honestly baffled at how anyone can watch this show, especially season 1, and think otherwise. Phoebe Waller Bridge spoke back during season 1 about how that was a sort of love at first sight moment.
Absolutely love your take on this! There is so much more they could have done if they had approached it consistently with the idea that we were here for the chemistry and the relationship with Eve/Villanelle. What started as a cat and mouse game could have evolved into a push/pull with Eve hating that she loved Villanelle after all the heartache V caused with Niko and Bill, but Eve still couldn't stay away from her. It makes no sense that Eve would have any sort of rebirth after V's death when everything that Eve became was somehow supported or instigated by V. Even back to the ghost story line, how did they make Eve so callous towards V when Eve literally had a world class assassin at her beck and call... could have been a hell of a thank you. So many opportunities lost on this show....
I refuse to watch season 4. I will only consume it through cute gif sets and angry commentary and reviews
Wish I knew how bad it was I could have pretended it ended at season 3
I get that. just finished all 4 seasons, they should do the story and could, much much better... sad
Girl everything you said was on point and you are not alone - the achilles slice is literally my worst nightmare too.
Completely agree on your takes on this show, on this finale and what makes it so problematic and disappointing. And yes the writers after s2 failed to understand what made the show so special, and why people watched it. Eve and Villanelle relationship and its progression was the core of the show, all that mattered, everything else was just an extra. I feel the writers at some point weren't bold enough to fully explore this relationship, to dig deeper into it, so they just settled with keeping them apart with very little screen time and introducing countless of characters no one cared about. It's really sad how Jodie and Sandra chemistry was wasted, the few moments they had together in the final episode were incredible, wish we got that much sooner. Eve and Villanelle honestly deserved better.
Girl season 4 was so disappointing!! Best show and I've watched consistently and I feel you on this one. They completely missed the assignment with Eve & Villanelle's screen time.
Na V didn't kill him. It was Konstantin.
v killing kenny is literally impossible. she was off in spain getting married and then she reuniting with dasha. there was no way she could’ve did it.
@@LittleSkyfuli wonder why
Carolyn used Villanelle to destroy the 12 and then recreate the 12.
I tuned in because of Jodie Comer's performance. I would tune in to hear her reading a phone book.
Have you seen NBC Hannibal? It's darker and slightly pretentiously intellectual compared to lighter and more comedic Killing Eve, but there's a similar dynamic between the two main characters at the forefront of the show (albeit less explicit than Villanelle and Eve in that they don't kiss, since the show was unfortunately cancelled before they could get there, but it does eventually get textually romantic regardless), and the writers realized in time the gem they had in their hands, so it's done justice. The series finale is brilliant and pretty much the perfect ending for the story, IMO. Would love to see your review of it one day if you were interested in making one!
Hannibal is great! So is Dexter!
Great point yes! I thought the leads did a fantastic job of conveying the complex nuances of that relationship as it evolved.
i loved the ending, although i don’t like how much hannibal was psychologically manipulating will to be like him while eve and villanelle’s bond was more so uncovering what eve had in her but she couldn’t come to terms with. but then again it’s not that different for will but he had hyper empathy
@@cocteautwin Good point, although I do believe Will also had darkness inside of him that he’d been suppressing prior to meeting Hannibal that Hannibal saw in him and eventually nurtured. Taking advantage of Will’s encephalitis was an awful and entirely unjustifiable thing to do, of course, but apart from that, Will really wasn’t that goody-two-shoes of a person to begin with, so I think he and Hannibal are a perfect match for each other-since season 1, we see arrogance in Will, and we also see that he enjoyed killing Hobbs (he even confesses as much to Hannibal during one of their very first therapy sessions). I don’t think Hannibal made something out of Will that wasn’t already there, even if on a subconscious level.
The moment 3x01 came out, I knew the show is screwed. The new writers lost Villanelle and didn't know how to write her anymore. I will go as far as saying the season 3 and 4 Villanelle was boring, she went from being crazy but in a badass way where you think she is the most well behaved person in any room till she flips 360 and she reminds you who she actually is in a very freaky way that brings you chills, to the lame kind of boring where clowns and jesus's were making me even feel embarrassed while watching it or ever recommending the show.
I get how difficult it is to write a character like V, you need to invent a character who is by far more interesting as a person than you, yourself, so I get how difficult it may be... But that is why they are 8 writers and not 1, you would at least think one of them will know who V used to be, but nope. The decency to take one of the best stories and plots ever in TV history and screw it up so badly and so shamelessly is beyond me.
to be fair, the show really should have been a miniseries, and the failure to control the story caused more problems to show up. As for the finale, it’s editing is shockingly bad-borderline funny, it’” gives a wink towards the “bury your gays” trope, somehow confuses grief with “reborn” and never asks the audiences to question why they still root for two immoral characters are just a few of the problems. In the episode.. I’d actually recommend an older show that I think covers the themes that killing Eve tried to do much better- The Sopranos! (and it actually has one of the best finales).
Laura Neal…Persona non grata…😡
I read a lot of people saying that the treatment of these characters, in particular Eve’s ending in the river, is sort of like a conversion therapy situation. Truly horrible.
Laura Neal, a homophone by any other name is still jut a homophobe, even one that panders and gay baits when it suits them. Not an ally
The fourth season and especially the finale episode left me with no other conclusion other than Laura Neal is a homophobe going under the guise of woke ally. But she gay baited and buried the gays with the best and with much more cynicism. Frankly even Sandra Oh took part in these anti-romance statements which made me wonder just how she really views queer relationships or how badly she understood the LGBTQ community she claims to care for.
god, i feel your pain, thank you for making this video & making me feel a little less crazy lol
One of the most accurate reviews I've seen since the horrendous finale left me (us) mourning. Thank you for putting words to my anger/this sensation of betrayal/ me wondering: in which universe was Neal floating when this crazy end arouse in her mind?
Not only did they spend time on all this other silly shit. They completely just forgot about half of the shit they had been focusing on the whole season. you are absolutely right about no one curring about anything else besides Eve and Villanelle
The writing started to fail the moment Phoebe Waller Bridge left. She set up a colorful and exciting world and no writer from the other seasons could match that energy. I said it with Game of Thrones, Star Wars and many more entertainment fails over the past few years, if you can't end it rationally and with respect to ALL characters, just give fan service. You will still hear some complain but it will be no where near the hate most of these endings are getting. The whole entertainment business needs an overhaul of writers. Repeating the same mistakes or just remaking things out of laziness and the bottom line.
This has been in my watch later folder since you uploaded because every time I thought of watching it I felt like I’d be ripping off a scab I wasn’t ready to. I’m still in mourning lol. Thank god for Stan Twitter and you confirming I’m not alone in my grief
Ahaha, I’m glad you got some much needed closure from this video, I know I did! 😩
So well said, thank you! That finale was worse than I could have ever expected
First want to say great job with your perspective on the season and finale.. I totally agree with what you said regarding the dynamic chemistry and playing it off until the 4th season and only showing it in the very last episode. I can understand if the writers want to put their own twist on a show that they are taking over but to derail tne season to the oblivion does not make any sense to me. What was Laura's reasoning for Eve's rebirth --to come out of the water now being totally broken and upset that she finally had someone in her life that understood her to be brutally taken away. The seaon 4 should have started them moving towards each other on the bridge vs Eve having the resentment and Vinallele trying to figure out where she belongs. They could have been together helping each other out while trying to demolish the 12. I am not writer by any means but you would think that Laura should have listened a little more carefully to what the audience is looking for. It was false information that we got in episode 8 of season 4 to see that finally Eve and V are in a place they need to be in which took them 4 years to get to and to have it just taken away. It will be unfortunate that if Laura does partake in another series that folks may not bother to watch the series because of how she interprets what the show should be like vs listening to what the fans would like to see. Not expecting the fairy tale ending but something that makes more sense. I ditto your comment on the actors and how they were all magnificient in the roles they play. The Nevers was good but so far only 1 Season..Thanks for your movie chats..
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts, you put it perfectly 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 and thank you for your lovely comments! ☺️
Forgot this series called Blythe Manor. Great love story .
I was interested in the 12 when it still seemed like Helene was at the top or near the top. They fumbled it all. Would’ve made an interesting dynamic of these four complex and powerful women at the crux of the season.
Yes, PAIN! Devastation! I have been depressed all week. I never do that for a TV show! poor writing. so many holes left open. And if it's all for a stupid prequel, even more pissed!
It’s Thursday and the suffering hasn’t ended yet 😭😭😭
Omg I'm out for every prequel and sequel, unless it begins exactly as Luke Jennings ended his 3rd book.
Preach! The writers messed up. Nonsense.
They did not really develop the spy thriller story line which made the 12 boring as you said. Phoebe leaving the show after one season is what sunk this show and Villanelle to the bottom of the Thames.
Just saw your review, utterly disappointed and angry with the season as a whole.
6 days later I'm still upset. For me, it was a betrayal to Jodie Comer this season with very bad writing and not enough screen time as well as her death scene , all being so rushed. Originally, it was written as Eve who dies; and this season as much as I like Sandra her performance was average in comparison to other seasons.
Loved Sandra as Yang in Grey's but from day one it was Jodie Comer who was the shining star with great fashion and cool accents and disguises that made her character Villanelle Iconic.
Naturally, Jodie's acting has been outstanding throughout the whole series.
I found the characters Yusef, Pam, Gunn, the 12, a waste of how they should have ended it all.
I really didn't care about any of them at all.
What they should have done was revert back to the Luke Jennings books and focus the final season in that manner considering it was based on them. Then we could have seen the journey of escaping from the big bad, faking their death and then living peacefully together thereafter.
All I could see in the finale is how the writers were setting up the spin off show based on Carolyn's back story.
Yes, there were fleeting good scenes sparsely scattered but overall season 4 was a fail.
As a huge fan of the show I feel let-down considering we had to wait so long for the final season to be released due to the pandemic. I know they were limited to filming in the UK but parts of the season felt like an advert for Dreamland Margate.
I will end now but have found this season to have too many deficiencies.
Either they should have Thelma and Louise the characters or let them live! I hope some fan fiction writers rewrite season 4.
Agree. Literally the only character I liked besides the OGs (Eve, Villanelle, Carolyn, Konstantin) was Helene. It was nice to have her around while E and V were seperated. There are rumours about a Carolyn backstory spin-off, but I'd prefer to know more about Helene, because we don't really know anything about her. What drives her, how she got involved with the 12 and when, who her daughter's father is and if he was in the 12, if he's even alive... We don't even know her last name. Also, I found it strange that even her own daughter doesn't know anything about her (in Eve's words.) But I know it'd seem silly because she's not one of the OGs, therefore, we don't care. Oh, well.
I completely agree! I loved the plot twist with Carolyn but villanelle's death broke me:)
I relate to opening Twitter and being spoiled randomly!
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I served Fiona Shaw on a flight to New York and she was such a sweetheart. 💖
Oh woow! I'm glad to hear she was a pleasure to meet! :D
I never bought that Eve loved Villanelle. The kiss scene felt forced, as if it was spliced into the season.
you are right, i forgot about s3's existence
This show was ultimately queerbait in the end. I feel so sorry and upset for the fans
I don't know why I keep having to say this but it is NOT queerbait. They are both openly queer. They both love each other. The final few minutes fell into a harmful trope, sure, but it was not queerbait
Yees I could listen to rants for hours I'm so mad... The writers really said let's juts disrespect an entire community they'll love it...
Helene andEve definitely felt forced and yucky. Unlike Eve and Villanelle is just passionate and intense.
You are speaking only facts!!! Thank you 🙌🏽
Emily Andras should write a new season
not me pausing and going to watch your whole s3 playlist 😅 you have a new subscriber!
If the writers wanted to flesh out the story of The 12 - fine. Do it. Instead it was this half-hearted approach that left more questions than answers and wasted a lot of screen time.
Great video review! My favorite so far. I also love Peaky Blinders so will subscribe and watch your reviews after the new season drops in the States.
You are so right! This is exactly what I was thinking and feeling! GREAT VIDEO AND ANALYSIS!!
Thank you! I'm glad we could vent!
Quite to the point. Seems most of the fans and critiques share the same complaints and confusion. I do understand that a movie or TV adaptation of a Novel never can be 1:1, in this case for some very obvious reasons (those who read the novels will know what I'm talking about). BUT, and that is a big BUT: the conclusion of the novel series was gloriously constructed. Why change that? There was a scene with V and E in the water of the North Sea, their hands close together, V being carried away by currents for good. But then E woke up -- it was a mere NIGHTMARE. Later V assassinated the Presidents of Russia and the US in the Kremlin (and, like The Twelve, even THAT was a mere side story). When fighting her way out V was shot in the back and everyone thought she was dead. Only she wasn't. Her death was staged by a leading FSB General who had promised Eve to keep Villanelle alive, repaying Eve for intelligence related favors related to the conspiracy. Eve spent quite some time in grief, but ultimately they were re-united in a rather touching scene. In my view an infinitely more satisfying ending.
I’d say the idea of the characters started going wrong in season 3. I get that Villanelle needed some type of character development, but making her start to dislike killing feels so unnatural. The whole point was that she WAS bad. She loved her job, and the hedonism of it all.
I started watching it this month. I finished season 1 and I was looking forward to season 2. I got to Episode 4 in season 2 and I was like ‘this is off and I’m not going to waste my time with this weak script’.
I had to run to CZcams to make sure I’m not making assumptions and thank God I saw this review 😂😂
I hated the finale so much whenever I hear that candy song I get into fight or flight mode
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Watch Gentleman Jack, season 2 just started in England and will start in USA in two weeks
Having the show only deal with the relationship would not work for four seasons. They really needed both the spy thriller story AND the romance. How the heck would you confine the show only to the relationship. What are they supposed to be doing? The show was best in Season 1 since the two characters were still pursuing each other. Clearly the only thing that would make sense is if Villanelle had actually been working for MI5 with Eve in the course of hunting down some evil protagonists.
Was it homophobia from the writers? Was it patriarchy winning? Couldnt they let the greatest female assassin of all times live???
Books they end up together and alive if anyone wants to check that out
You look like Kelly Price. I thought about it and now I can’t unsee it
I really wish WE HAD SOME BACKGROUND story about the CHARACTERS of THE TWELVE.
Honestly I did not care that they got killed.
Great vídeo!
7/10 was so generous please
When you talked about the tendon cutting nightmare I was like "oh me too 😂" next to get my wrist cut and die from bleeding out. Idk just got scared thinking about a dramatic way to suffer haha. Great review, totally agree with you!
I LOOOVVEEE YOUR VIDEOS!!! Please can you do a video on the new Netflix series, “the ultimatum” PLEASE I needdd your thoughts, I found this weird so crazy… and not in a good way🤣🤣
It should be mandatory for the writing staff to watch your review. Then they should take a time out from writing! Lol. Your review was on point!
you are on point
I couldn't have said it better myself. You're very kind with your ratings. 🙂I started losing interest in KE around season 2. Thank God I only saw the entire series for the first time recently. I can't imagine watching it for years to have that ending. The whole teasing of Villanelle and Eve's relationship got tiring around season 2. When they first kissed in the bus I was like FINALLY - I was so frustrated with their relationship. It's a shame that they ruined what could have been a perfect show. I was disappointed with the series finale but not surprised, they had been screwing the audience for awhile. It's sad that they used the audience because they KNEW their main demographic was an lgbtq+ crowd. I guess some artists forget that the crowd is what's paying your bills.
girl like same i completely forgot about killing eve.... peaky blinders was so good though.
Hi, I really liked your thoughts on this debacle of a finale and I also feel extremely sad because all the great shows are coming to their ends - I'm also a huge Peaky Blinders fan - so I'm going to recommend you a new show from last year? I don't really remember but it's called YELLOWJACKETS and it's really great. It has mistery, lots of drama, and a really interesting plot (so far). I hope that you can check it out
Season 4 gave Killing Eve the right to exist in the same sentence as pretentious. There was so much about the show in it's last lap that defeated itself.
I loved this show but you’re right they didn’t set this last season up to feel like a finale. And what’s was with the new assassin girl. Only enjoyable part was seeing the white people dancing to candy 😩💀
This was so funny 😂 and you are sooo right about the show what a shame :(
I wanted to know about the 12 since the beginning of the first season.
In my opinion, Sandra Oh and Jodie Comer understood Eve and Villanelle AND the story altogether way, way better than Laura Neal ever understood the whole concept and story. 😩
I remember an interview where Phoebe Waller-Bridge said, “Every moment in this show exists so these two women can end up alone in a room together”.
LAURA.. THIS is what you do despite knowing why the show was made in the first place? Ugh!
Preach 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🔥
Why hasn’t anyone comment on the possibility that Caroline kills Villanelle because she was the one who killed Kenny and that’s what it was written on Constantine note…Villanelle kills Kenny and Constantine appears on that video because he went either to stop Villanelle or to checked on what happened (I don’t know, something), because after all it was Caroline’s son. Caroline’s would definitely avenge Kenny, and she killed that other guy no to kill Constantine that time even though the evidence pointed at him…I don’t know…too many unanswered things on the means to end the show! I hate that they killed Villanelle…these characters were AMAZING!! Jodie Comer, OMG!!! She’s too good!!
Villanelle was in Spain get married when Kenny died.
I felt this way with Son's Of Anarchy
I was furious! Stupid and insulting to the audience ending!
You are right on
OK, everybody! The show finished in 2022. Has everybody recovered from that? I am here, in Brazil, April 2024, watching “the end”. What was that? The scar scene and the kiss were just perfection! but I feel disturbed. Not only because of the way that wonderful character (Villenelle - love the name) died, but also because I thought her redemption through love would be a perfect answer to our times, after the pandemic and with so crazy things happening around. So, Eve will not recover (or rebirth, as the writer said)... not from the loss of that kind of unique love in life (straight or gay). Villanelle, wherever she is, must be very angry. So... IF SHE COMES BACK FROM THE RIVER ... WHO KNOWS?? Again: WHAT WAS THAT?
And thanks for all the actors, Sandra, Jodie, Fiona, Kim and so on. It was a great journey! Thank you very much!!
Even if it's been two years, welcome to the party friend ahaha! I couldn't agree more, the ending still hurt to this day!
@@JeannesMovieChats Hey U! Don´t you think she could return from the dead? I keep thinking if producers and actors decided for it.... It could be! In arts impossible doesn´t exist.🌟
Yes, preach. I am still sad lol. I dont get like this for tv shows 🤣
The ending was homophobic, I said what I said
very homophobic
@@LandisLL Yep. It felt intentional to add all that religious BS then to show us their union just to rip it apart carelessly moments later.
literally no one cares about the 12 💀
I don’t know what the fuck I just watched lmao. The way it ended so…….. abruptly🥴. This season felt so incomplete to me. I never seen a show go from being so good to being well 🤦🏾♀️ idk 😂😂😂
I think that Carolyn found out that it was Villinelle who killed her son. The kissed scene was perfect between Eve and Villinelle. I didn't see the purpose of them peeing and not washing their hands first though. The ending, was bulls☆it. I'll like to hear your reviews about the show, "The 100."
I’m so disappointed😭😭😭 Gotta buy a book
You are so right! No one gives f about the 11 literally all here for villanelle and eves relationship
the scene with the blonde wig!!! Make it make sense!! She's stalking Helene from behind in the blonde wig -- next scene we see eve sitting in a bar wearing a long ass braid stalking Helene who is also in another outfit? just WHY
No one cares about the 12. Yes! Can I get an amen?