I think there should be an official POTY ( part of the year) since the social media skate era is so rapid and makes it hard to keep up with individual skaters. I think a dope part will always stand out regardless of skateboarding’s current social climate.
I think that could work well if it was split into 2 categories- commercial (released under a sponsor) and independent. This would be necessary in today's climate because not all edits that come out are necessarily 'parts,' as they aren't part of a longer full length. Having a commercial category could include both traditional video parts and single skater x sponsor edits ie Tiago x NB or TJ Rogers x eS
In Thrasher magazine they have some fun, unofficial winners of randon shit. Its in the back of the SOTY issue. 25 bucks a year for 12 issues aint bad y'all, if you can still read paper @@normanl.6891
Since you brought him up, I just have to say that Silas Baxter Neil was actually the first person to 50-50 gap 50-50 from one handrail to the next. Nice insight though. Awesome work! 😊
pretty sure that was because nyjah said something about women skating. you know the deal, companies today gutta make a political statement instead of basing their decisions on truth.
Nyjah should win by default, hes become skateboardings Leonardo chasing after that well deserved oscar. On a more realistic note, definitely rob pace. Hoping dylan jaeb can compete for soty next year with some more parts and nbds.
Let's look at overall: Jah: street 9 + contests 8 = Pace Street 9 + contests 3= Obviously Thrasher does not factor contests in that much but even just a bit and it's very lopsided.
Dude I actually think Thrasher demotes skaters for being successful in contests. Just look at the last decade of SOTYs and none of them skated contests (or were winners). Jah went undefeated the year he put out Fade to Black and that should’ve been his first SOTY. He wasn’t as successful in contests last year from injury but still made podiums. But his two parts were the gnarliest we’ve ever seen in street skating, like by a lot. Genuinely think Nyjah should be the 2-time SOTY and Tyshawn shouldn’t have even won his first. With him it’s almost never been about skating ability, he’s an incredible skater but has very little variety (mostly pops and gaps, very little rails). He’s never been a SOTY level skater and his first one had a lot to do with fashion culture it seemed like (I literally couldn’t find a street part from him the year he won his first, not even close to SOTY level).
This year certainly seems more open than years past, and my guess is that someone who Thrasher endorses more than these guys (like you said, Braden, Miles, etc) comes through with a banger part to push them to the championship
My vote is with Rob Pace. That part this year was one of the rawest, downright gnarliest I've ever seen. Granted, Yuto has been absolutely crushing it but I think we haven't seen him at his best yet. Also shout out to Sheckler for dropping an absolute beast of a video this year!
Excellent analysis. To further this discussion, I've been Clip Mapping every single street clip put out by the most productive skaters of 2023 on Skatefolio, my new skate video database. Now you can easily view these skaters' entire 2023 in one sitting: -Tom Knox - Braden Hoban - Yuto Horigome - Leo Baker - Rob Pace - Fabiana Delfino - Antonio Durao - Gustav - Dylan Jaeb - Nick Matthews - Ishod Wair - Kader Sylla - Maité Steenhoudt - Patrick Praman - Vitória Mendonça - Sheckler - Ryuhei Kitazume - Cyrus Bennett - Curren Caples - Karim Callender - Breana Geering - Rowan Zorilla - Nelly morville - Jacki Michel Also there are quite a few more skaters I'm still getting to. Once all these end of year parts drop, we'll be releasing the official stats (part count, clip count, total length of footage, etc).
amazing how it is possible to granularly break it down and go full-on into analytics and actually make a numerically supported case for a winner, when in reality it seems like it is nothing more than politics and a decision made upon no data imo :D
The other thing you forgot to mention is sponsors. Recent winners have tended to have big, Thrasher-friendly backers ready to splash some cash getting ads into the magazine. Tyshawn had Supreme and adidas, Mason Real and Nike etc. Being sponsored by Santa Cruz and Emerica might put Rob Pace at a slight disadvantage. He'd be the first winner since Jamie Foy in 2017 not to have one of the big shoe brands supporting him.
Correlation isn't causation. Most skaters ride for big companies, especially ones considered the best and most in the public eye. Also, foy rides for new balance...not exactly a poor core company. New balance is one of the biggest skate brands at the moment. Iow you're ridiculous.
This year is so hard! But I have to give it to Shecks man. His part was fucking bananas and for him to go through everything he did and show out like that just hit so hard. I grew up watching him as a kid so I'm certainly a little biased but I never expected him to come out that big either.
The only thing that counts is what Thrasher views as the person who represents the core, skate life world the best that year. All the data and view counts in the world can't quantify that. But I do appreciate and enjoy watching dumb data try, haha.
I'd say Yuto if he wins the SLS Super Crown in December. This year Yuto won Tampa Pro, the X Games, the inaugural Uprising Tokyo, plus his Nike SB part, and debuting his own trick the Yutornado in competition. You add the SLS super crown to that and its a convincing argument. That being said, I hope Pace wins lol
@@ashleybrown4754 try again. Smolik does a nollie 270 noseslide in Fulfill the Dream, but he doesn't do the 270 out. The Yutornado is nollie 270 into the noseslide AND the 270 out.
Rob Pace's ender might never be seen again the difference between his 3 hop and the previous 2 hop are insane. this ender is infinitely better than all the other kickflip 50-50s
Rob Pace's part was really good, and the ender was impressive. Still, only small hops were needed between the rails. I've watched Jack O Grady's part again, and was impressed by the gap between the two 50-50s. A real, nice ollie was needed in-between, with a lot of pop.
Speaking of deserving people…. I still can’t believe Dumb Data has only 25k subs. Show this dude some love and hit that sub & like button. You know why there is no other channel like this? Anyone else who has even considered it thought about all the work behind making a single video & nope’d out of that idea REAL QUICK. I don’t know this dude in the slightest but I know for sure that if he didn’t make the videos he does no one else would so I definitely appreciate what he does
Ha. The company I used to ride for put out a promo of me in 2007/2008 with no makes. Love that they did that. Also, can’t wait to see what Pedro Delfino does in his part!
I really like what Jaakko has done this year! rampage mode: creative, gnarl and tech. Id give to him or Gio, our brazilian gingerzilla! What a form and trick selection those two have.
Cool, cool. Thank you. In terms of overall brutality, difficulty, and NBD I would like to tip my hat to Chad Caruso. Also, agreed, representative and ambassador. I’m not sure. Yuto or Nyjah or Caples could’ve done that. although Rob pace certainly could have.
Its on who is friends with certain industry insiders and skaters , who promotes thrasher, who fits the older core description of a skater not which is the best that year . Its sad when one of greatest part in recent ' nyjah Huston' years gets over looked and its given to thrasher pages favourite Tyshawn Jones again . Its hard to deny nyjahs part wasn't top of the game and i can't see many others replicating it.
I doubt he'll get it, but my pick is Ryan Thompson. His Texas Three Step is full of unbelievable, heavy skating and 17 minutes total. But alas none of the videos reach the 100k mark that Dumb Data pointed out, so probably not
That is not Curren doing the nollie heel in the RVCA Jamaica edit. He has the same shirt on so I can see why you thought that though. He says after: "called it right as he popped".
I guess Ryan Thompson's Texas Three Step barage of well rounded madness was released too early in the year? Why is everyone sleeping on that guy? Also: I feel like the rail gap thing is getting way too much dap here. In addition to O'Grady and Jake Anderson both having ABD'd the concept, O'Grady and Anderson's gaps were both longer than a board length and down steeper stairs. The Pace rail was insane but those gaps were just little unweight-yourself things, and as long as it was, it was a mellow angled bannister. Thats my argument for Pace's ender not being such a huge consideration.
I think Pace is the front runner but I’m pumped for Miles, Pedro and hopefully Shane’s new parts because I think all three will be contender worthy…especially Pedro since he’s extremely gnarly.
Y’all are tripping, I think it’s Cyrus Bennett. Dude has had more footage than anyone else, not to mention multiple end parts including ender in Huf’s Forever.
I'm really curious who made thrasher the authority on skateboarding, if they were legit and had integrity i could kinda see it, but after doing collabs with lacoste and generally putting money and greed above skateboarding doesnt sit right with me... same with selling thrasher gear in non skateboard shops... just silly and disapointing..
I personally think Gator of the Year award is bigger than thrasher . Video parts released on other channels should not be weighted differently then videos released on thrasher.
Transworld used to have their own soty like 15 years ago. They had the readers poll winner and the pro-skaters poll. It was a lot more democratic and realistic than Phelps or Burnette just picking who they liked best.
I think you hit it right on the head saying that nyjahs videos weren't on thrasher like tyshawn. They want views so making him soty makes sense from that perspective
Tyshawn might drop a few flat ground clips. It’s not over yet…
I think there should be an official POTY ( part of the year) since the social media skate era is so rapid and makes it hard to keep up with individual skaters. I think a dope part will always stand out regardless of skateboarding’s current social climate.
I think that could work well if it was split into 2 categories- commercial (released under a sponsor) and independent.
This would be necessary in today's climate because not all edits that come out are necessarily 'parts,' as they aren't part of a longer full length. Having a commercial category could include both traditional video parts and single skater x sponsor edits ie Tiago x NB or TJ Rogers x eS
In Thrasher magazine they have some fun, unofficial winners of randon shit. Its in the back of the SOTY issue. 25 bucks a year for 12 issues aint bad y'all, if you can still read paper @@normanl.6891
@@normanl.6891 yessir!! That’s a good idea !! I can see that being the format for how it’s done
Since you brought him up, I just have to say that Silas Baxter Neil was actually the first person to 50-50 gap 50-50 from one handrail to the next. Nice insight though. Awesome work! 😊
Rob did the trifecta bro.And all ours mums.Aussie Aussie aussie
Thrasher won’t acknowledge it because it was his ender in a transworld video, also on their cover I believe
@@treestreethooliganthis is dumb data not thrasher
I lost all belief and trust in thrasher's SOTY last year. Nyjah should have gotten that, that much was clear on social media.
Exactly
pretty sure that was because nyjah said something about women skating. you know the deal, companies today gutta make a political statement instead of basing their decisions on truth.
Nah not nyjah. Def not nyjah.
Nyjah don't need it
So I’m assuming the rape is completely forgotten about?
Heard Tyshawn will win it again. Having 0
Parts.
Truly an amazing skater
He shouldn't win again. They gave him it before with much better parts out.
@@itisjustacommentsarcasm, do you know it?
@@LLJMproductions Not when it's not stated or hinted at.
You're racist brah.
@@itisjustacomment....so you self admittedly don't know sarcasm then?
How is Yutos Nollie 270 Heel boardslide on a handrail not mentioned
This. That was one of the most like “text your friend yo did you see that shit?” tricks maybe ever
Nyjah should win by default, hes become skateboardings Leonardo chasing after that well deserved oscar. On a more realistic note, definitely rob pace. Hoping dylan jaeb can compete for soty next year with some more parts and nbds.
Man...he really is our Leonardo eh
Let's look at overall: Jah: street 9 + contests 8 = Pace Street 9 + contests 3= Obviously Thrasher does not factor contests in that much but even just a bit and it's very lopsided.
Dude I actually think Thrasher demotes skaters for being successful in contests. Just look at the last decade of SOTYs and none of them skated contests (or were winners). Jah went undefeated the year he put out Fade to Black and that should’ve been his first SOTY. He wasn’t as successful in contests last year from injury but still made podiums. But his two parts were the gnarliest we’ve ever seen in street skating, like by a lot. Genuinely think Nyjah should be the 2-time SOTY and Tyshawn shouldn’t have even won his first. With him it’s almost never been about skating ability, he’s an incredible skater but has very little variety (mostly pops and gaps, very little rails). He’s never been a SOTY level skater and his first one had a lot to do with fashion culture it seemed like (I literally couldn’t find a street part from him the year he won his first, not even close to SOTY level).
This means nothing after Nyjah didnt win last year
This year certainly seems more open than years past, and my guess is that someone who Thrasher endorses more than these guys (like you said, Braden, Miles, etc) comes through with a banger part to push them to the championship
Until Nyjah gets SOTY, it's all just a connection contest with thrasher.
My vote is with Rob Pace. That part this year was one of the rawest, downright gnarliest I've ever seen. Granted, Yuto has been absolutely crushing it but I think we haven't seen him at his best yet. Also shout out to Sheckler for dropping an absolute beast of a video this year!
I agree
I want to see Sheckler be the soty this years.
Excellent analysis. To further this discussion, I've been Clip Mapping every single street clip put out by the most productive skaters of 2023 on Skatefolio, my new skate video database. Now you can easily view these skaters' entire 2023 in one sitting:
-Tom Knox
- Braden Hoban
- Yuto Horigome
- Leo Baker
- Rob Pace
- Fabiana Delfino
- Antonio Durao
- Gustav
- Dylan Jaeb
- Nick Matthews
- Ishod Wair
- Kader Sylla
- Maité Steenhoudt
- Patrick Praman
- Vitória Mendonça
- Sheckler
- Ryuhei Kitazume
- Cyrus Bennett
- Curren Caples
- Karim Callender
- Breana Geering
- Rowan Zorilla
- Nelly morville
- Jacki Michel
Also there are quite a few more skaters I'm still getting to. Once all these end of year parts drop, we'll be releasing the official stats (part count, clip count, total length of footage, etc).
Tom Knox has had a really productive year already with another part still to drop.
He also had a new balance video come out a couple weeks ago that was overlooked here
Knox is smooth and sleepy, something about his skating bores me to death.
Unfortunately I agree. I like him but yeah.
amazing how it is possible to granularly break it down and go full-on into analytics and actually make a numerically supported case for a winner, when in reality it seems like it is nothing more than politics and a decision made upon no data imo :D
I really hope rob pace gets it this year. He genuinely deserves it
Mason clears
nyjah went harder thn rob last year still got tobbed
Yuto ftw
Depends, if a guy does a kickflip over a gap or table he might get it
@@kamikazeExpert nyjah just did the same thing he's done for years.
just destroyed that kid at the end 😂
The other thing you forgot to mention is sponsors. Recent winners have tended to have big, Thrasher-friendly backers ready to splash some cash getting ads into the magazine. Tyshawn had Supreme and adidas, Mason Real and Nike etc. Being sponsored by Santa Cruz and Emerica might put Rob Pace at a slight disadvantage. He'd be the first winner since Jamie Foy in 2017 not to have one of the big shoe brands supporting him.
Foy’s on redbull
@@skateboard446 Are they big Thrasher advertisers? I have no idea.
100% true, also makes me quite sad that the next SOTYs will always ride for Nike, Adidas, Cons, Vans or NB, super predictable and boring.
Correlation isn't causation. Most skaters ride for big companies, especially ones considered the best and most in the public eye. Also, foy rides for new balance...not exactly a poor core company. New balance is one of the biggest skate brands at the moment. Iow you're ridiculous.
@@igomk who else would they ride for besides es or etnies
Dustin Dillon already had done the no make part
Can we as a society make a New Year’s resolution to not say bruh anymore
Bruh
@@JasonDgen-cu1cp that’s it get it out of your system
This year is so hard! But I have to give it to Shecks man. His part was fucking bananas and for him to go through everything he did and show out like that just hit so hard. I grew up watching him as a kid so I'm certainly a little biased but I never expected him to come out that big either.
Agree. Going that hard, for that long, at that age, I don't care anymore about some cringy TV from 20 years ago.
One of the greatest comebacks across all sports
The only thing that counts is what Thrasher views as the person who represents the core, skate life world the best that year. All the data and view counts in the world can't quantify that. But I do appreciate and enjoy watching dumb data try, haha.
Damn no mention of Kevin Baekkel for his part and ender in the beyond medals video “you can’t win” his part was super gnarly.
Yeah, too bad his part wasn't released on Thrasher
Damn buddy at the end got folded and then got folded even worse. 😂 folded like a grill cheese maker.
I'd say Yuto if he wins the SLS Super Crown in December.
This year Yuto won Tampa Pro, the X Games, the inaugural Uprising Tokyo, plus his Nike SB part, and debuting his own trick the Yutornado in competition.
You add the SLS super crown to that and its a convincing argument.
That being said, I hope Pace wins lol
thrasher doesnt give a shit about sls
@@nachooorp3528 they sure did when Ishod won SOTY in 2013
The Yutornado was done by Smolik in Fulfill The Dream. Yuto has just done it one bigger things.
Based on skating Yuto all the way but Thrasher almost always seems to put heavy emphasis on street cred/ image/ X factor.
@@ashleybrown4754 try again. Smolik does a nollie 270 noseslide in Fulfill the Dream, but he doesn't do the 270 out. The Yutornado is nollie 270 into the noseslide AND the 270 out.
Rob Pace's ender might never be seen again the difference between his 3 hop and the previous 2 hop are insane. this ender is infinitely better than all the other kickflip 50-50s
Rob Pace's part was really good, and the ender was impressive. Still, only small hops were needed between the rails.
I've watched Jack O Grady's part again, and was impressed by the gap between the two 50-50s. A real, nice ollie was needed in-between, with a lot of pop.
Pretty please make a vid analyzing the rise and fall of Braille skateboarding the way you look at the youtube analytics
Giovanni Vianni has had a SOTY worthy part for sure
GV's skating has been beyond on point all year. Not sure he gets SOTY, but for sure deserving of it...
Speaking of deserving people…. I still can’t believe Dumb Data has only 25k subs. Show this dude some love and hit that sub & like button. You know why there is no other channel like this? Anyone else who has even considered it thought about all the work behind making a single video & nope’d out of that idea REAL QUICK. I don’t know this dude in the slightest but I know for sure that if he didn’t make the videos he does no one else would so I definitely appreciate what he does
Ha. The company I used to ride for put out a promo of me in 2007/2008 with no makes. Love that they did that.
Also, can’t wait to see what Pedro Delfino does in his part!
We sure came a long way from 1990...Now it really is a popularity contest.!!!✌🏻
I really like what Jaakko has done this year! rampage mode: creative, gnarl and tech. Id give to him or Gio, our brazilian gingerzilla! What a form and trick selection those two have.
protect Dumb Data at all costs!!!!!
They need to give it to Rob Pace.
personally i feel like yuto is a better overall skater but because of a few of robs tricks that he's done are just insane
Thrasher be like" and the winner is-Tyshawn
Great video but Sean Greene did the wild tail drop hill bomb in Mexico, not Chris Athans
Cool, cool. Thank you. In terms of overall brutality, difficulty, and NBD I would like to tip my hat to Chad Caruso. Also, agreed, representative and ambassador. I’m not sure. Yuto or Nyjah or Caples could’ve done that. although Rob pace certainly could have.
i always realize about 70% of the way through that i have retained none of the dumb data
Keep in mind we are about to be bombarded with dope footage left right and centre from all the contenders submitting their parts....good times yeeewww
Its on who is friends with certain industry insiders and skaters , who promotes thrasher, who fits the older core description of a skater not which is the best that year .
Its sad when one of greatest part in recent ' nyjah Huston' years gets over looked and its given to thrasher pages favourite Tyshawn Jones again .
Its hard to deny nyjahs part wasn't top of the game and i can't see many others replicating it.
Ok I didn't see that ender coming. He knows his stuff.
Knox, Tiago and Yuto. If anybody else wins I'll lose my faith in skateboarding
You already know they’re giving it to Yuto
I’m still baffled how Tyshawn won soty once let alone twice…
Seriously. I’m from New York too.
another fantastic video my friend, peace
Never thought I’d hear you call something corny lmao
I doubt he'll get it, but my pick is Ryan Thompson. His Texas Three Step is full of unbelievable, heavy skating and 17 minutes total. But alas none of the videos reach the 100k mark that Dumb Data pointed out, so probably not
That is not Curren doing the nollie heel in the RVCA Jamaica edit. He has the same shirt on so I can see why you thought that though. He says after: "called it right as he popped".
I guess Ryan Thompson's Texas Three Step barage of well rounded madness was released too early in the year? Why is everyone sleeping on that guy?
Also: I feel like the rail gap thing is getting way too much dap here. In addition to O'Grady and Jake Anderson both having ABD'd the concept, O'Grady and Anderson's gaps were both longer than a board length and down steeper stairs. The Pace rail was insane but those gaps were just little unweight-yourself things, and as long as it was, it was a mellow angled bannister. Thats my argument for Pace's ender not being such a huge consideration.
Agree
I bet thrasher pulling their hair out that this is so transparent on their picks. Lolololol
Dashwan will reclaim his trophy for sure
Can't stand him.Load of horse shit .Chuck Norris needs to judge
Thank you for making a video about this topic!
Also, where are all the crazy parts??? It's Thanksgiving already! Rob is the only one to oblige, haha
Congrats yuto
Dustin Dollin's holy stokes part is all bails lmfao
Have I mentioned I adore this channel 🔥
I think Pace is the front runner but I’m pumped for Miles, Pedro and hopefully Shane’s new parts because I think all three will be contender worthy…especially Pedro since he’s extremely gnarly.
Yeah I'm hoping Pedro will win he's a favorite
I hope the dude at the end is alright, what a way to end the video
great content!
I really don’t even care, I’m going to skate no matter what. Thrasher can pick whoever works good for them. 👍🏽
After Nyjah getting snubbed last year, anything is possible tbh
Y’all are tripping, I think it’s Cyrus Bennett. Dude has had more footage than anyone else, not to mention multiple end parts including ender in Huf’s Forever.
Really well put together video. Thanks for the info.
Pace had a great run, but Tyshawn gets it again sorry guys. 🏆🏆🏆
I'm really curious who made thrasher the authority on skateboarding, if they were legit and had integrity i could kinda see it, but after doing collabs with lacoste and generally putting money and greed above skateboarding doesnt sit right with me... same with selling thrasher gear in non skateboard shops... just silly and disapointing..
Its not that they’re the authority necessarily. The award is the Thrasher Skater of the Year. Like who they decided it is for them
I think Thasher should change their search to best overall part of the year insteady of skater of the year.
Would be cool if rob pace won, but if yuto actually tries to win this year, rob dosent stand a chance
I’m gonna say it, Shecks deserves it that part broke the world and may be one of the greatest comebacks I’ve ever seen across all sports
Give it to Tony... who at his age is still ripping vert like him? Let alone still doing things at his age?
YUTO
This data really is dumb, thank you
I personally think Gator of the Year award is bigger than thrasher . Video parts released on other channels should not be weighted differently then videos released on thrasher.
Antonio durao MUST be talked about
Kevin Baekkel !! he had Emerica "EMPOWER" & Beyond Medals "YOU CANT WIN" all in 2023
Skater XL needs a RANKED MODE
Damn theres alot of skate parts i gotta catch up on
Where is all Sora shirai's footage being splashed online?
First rail to rail grind wasn't hack o Grady. It was Silas Baxter Neal.
It’s just a way for thrasher to market themselves. It’s a popularity contest and whoever will make thrasher more money 🤷♂️
How the FUCK can you miss Cyrus Bennet.
love this content!!!
It’s gonna be Pedro
They’re racist if Tyshawn doesn’t win it again. He’s killing the game!
Whatever skating is to define this year's SOTY has yet to be revealed. We'll all know it when it lands...
In Nyjah‘s last Part are almost only enders.
Lets go Rob! 💪
I called the same exact thing last year. If Nyjah had put out that press run on and his parts on Thrasher he would have won.
Failed to mention Tom Knox’s cover or pro shoe
silas baxter neal and grant taylor both did rail to rail grinds like ten years ago
Pretty sure silas did a similar 5050 gap 5050 on a handrail in the transworld perpetual motion video way before 2021
Does SOTY not just seem like “video part of the year” or even “trick of the year” to a certain degree?
yes. it is 100% subjective. none of this technical shit means anything in reality. theyre not sitting at thrasher hq with graphs and shit lol
I wish there was a SOTY that had nothing to do with thrasher and was subjective of what magazines or CZcams channels you appeared on
public voting should take part.
Transworld used to have their own soty like 15 years ago. They had the readers poll winner and the pro-skaters poll. It was a lot more democratic and realistic than Phelps or Burnette just picking who they liked best.
@@peterfrederickson928 makes sense.
Ryan sheckler lifer video part was craaazy
I think they have to give it to Nyjah, and say " sorry for last year".
Alec Majerus might have the best/heaviest part so far this year imo. but he doesn't have enough content to be considered for SOTY
2022 Jah. 2023 Yuto- if the criteria is just skateboarding.
Tyshawn Jones SOTY 2024 💯🔥
I think you hit it right on the head saying that nyjahs videos weren't on thrasher like tyshawn. They want views so making him soty makes sense from that perspective
11:10 Silas did one ~10 years before that (Perpetual Motion)
Duckys drop in deserves a mention.