Top 10 Changes to Disc Golf Rules You Need To Know in 2022

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  • 2022 has seen a considerable number of changes to the official rules of disc golf. The new rules from the PDGA are effective from 1st January 2022 and in this video I'll run through what I believe are the top 10 changes that every players needs to be aware of.
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    0:00 Start
    0:30 Overview
    2:20 Score Cards
    3:21 Interference
    4:56 Obstacles
    6:07 Marking the Lie
    6:49 Excessive Time
    8:01 Wrong Starting Hole or Group
    9:57 Absent Player
    10:59 Completing the Hole
    12:05 Out-of-Bounds
    14:07 Mandatories
    17:09 Wrap-up
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  • @DiscGolfDownUnder
    @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +11

    Don't like the music? Too loud or distracting? I've uploaded a music free version of the same video here: czcams.com/video/LqRC3bDrUZ4/video.html

    • @novembertrails
      @novembertrails Před 2 lety +1

      thank you. I was just about to throw some hate lol

  • @PDGAmedia
    @PDGAmedia Před 2 lety +35

    Thanks for this great educational content, Disc Golf Down Under! We appreciate all the work that went into letting players know, not only what the new rules are for 2022, but also what they mean and how they can impact the game.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks for the awesome feedback. Great to hear.

    • @ClimbingKeen
      @ClimbingKeen Před 2 lety +3

      How the hell does a disc on top of the chain support not count when a disc could be hanging on the outside of the basket?

  • @Sketto8
    @Sketto8 Před 2 lety +11

    Regarding mandatories - who the hell was asking for these changes? The line of play to mando rule was clear. The change makes no sense. And making the mando should be making the mando, period. Now we get a penalty merely because it was temporarily in the "air space" of the OB area. How is that an improvement?

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 Před 2 lety

      Yes I see some very windy courses where they make the mandatory but then go back through the airspace of mandatory as in a offset to the side style of headwind to the point nobody is going to end on the correct side even if doing a roller due to the amount of offset to the side headwind style of winds, so they have a stall of everyone to the point the TD has to temporarily but illegally suspend the mandatory for the round as there is a 100% bottleneck of all players with one player blocking it up getting to retee and shoot a new score for the hole.

    • @mattiassennehed9918
      @mattiassennehed9918 Před 2 lety +2

      Good to clearify the exact Mando line. It would be easier if there were no more rules, if you have passed mando correctly, then you are fine. Think about a course design with a dogleg and then turning back towards the area where you teed of from. If its Mando to pass on right side from drive 1, then when you have passed, the new Mando is the opposit from before. With this rule you make home fairway from second throw ob? (Sorry for bad spelling, other language setting on phone)

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 Před 2 lety +1

      @@mattiassennehed9918 Yes the dropping of the parts after making the Mando line in flight but adding right after even of disc crosses backwards or to the side over the mandatory. Those that hit the mandatory after passing play the first time then play from the drop zone or drop marker with no penalty.
      I think the wording the way it is now is trying to make it so that the drop area is stopped by all but stupid event directors from be put in a spot the person still had to clear 60% or more of the mandatory. If the PDGA rule people wanted this, they should have said Drop spots must be 60% or more past the mandatory angle.

  • @GoWithTh3Flow
    @GoWithTh3Flow Před 2 lety +11

    Nikko sweating after the new excessive timing rules.

    • @jneihart2
      @jneihart2 Před 2 lety +2

      Amen...... however is someone going to call him on it!???

  • @dbak322
    @dbak322 Před 2 lety +3

    Glad to see you uploading some very well done and informative videos. Thank you mate

  • @henkkavee1179
    @henkkavee1179 Před 2 lety +4

    Really good and clear clarifications of changes, big thx!!

  • @teeeeeeeemu
    @teeeeeeeemu Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent beakdown. Thank you

  • @Flakzor123
    @Flakzor123 Před 2 lety +19

    I love the "excessive time" change... some people I've played with would be taking double digit penalties each round.

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 Před 2 lety

      In one case the guy I know who is now in his 70's or early 80's but still plays masters and wins would be disqualified for doing this on every single putt inside jump range but past 17--19 feet. For me I have yet to get this as I know the putters and approach/wind midrange I use for what shots. Only time this could be an issue is if the weather and wanting to reuse a disc.

    • @playdiscgolf1546
      @playdiscgolf1546 Před 2 lety +2

      I’m in agreement with most of it but changing the disc traction part can be aggravating if there are legitimate distractions around the basket or teepad

  • @discgolfchronicles
    @discgolfchronicles Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for doing this video, i will be posting it in our clubs facebook page. My brother and i were just talking about the mando rule. Cheers

  • @gainstage4497
    @gainstage4497 Před 2 lety

    Love this channel, cheers from stateside

  • @jacobcolon5295
    @jacobcolon5295 Před 2 lety +4

    your content is underrated as hell!

  • @kruksog
    @kruksog Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for making this. Watched the whole thing and found it really informative. Not sure why I care, because I never play competitively, but still feels good to know.

  • @mattiashansson4612
    @mattiashansson4612 Před 2 lety +9

    Great video. But the music is to loud.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +1

      Yep, loud and clear. Thanks for the feedback. I'll tone down the music.

  • @jordanashford7521
    @jordanashford7521 Před 2 lety +2

    These are great. Also, another big one not mentioned, is now you have to be an active PDGA member to compete in B-tier events.

  • @scatterbrain9490
    @scatterbrain9490 Před 2 lety +7

    I think missing a mando or going OB should be played where it was last seen by group if needed or a drop zone. Having to retee can dramatically slow speed of play for everyone in tournament, especially if every person or entire card can potentially miss mando, loose every disc in their bag lol or go OB. Not to mention destroy their entire round or weekend, maybe they drove across the country. Let's remember that fun is the reason we got into this game and fun can be pushed out if we're not careful. The rules are many and can be confusing, there is no reason for a 2 stroke penalty ever, it only adds more confusion. 1 stroke penalty sucks plenty and is easier to remember.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +6

      TD's should ensure that every mando has a drop zone, unless they are looking to really punish players for missing the mando.

  • @neptun3189
    @neptun3189 Před 2 lety +1

    thankyou!!!!

  • @williamhrivnak7345
    @williamhrivnak7345 Před 2 lety +1

    My two favorites are the obstacle relief and holing out. The first one will save me from getting scratched up with branches/needles climbing into trees and bushes. The second will be fun because I have a Koi putter that’s really soft and bends through the basket easily so that will save a few more strokes

  • @benjaminsmith2066
    @benjaminsmith2066 Před 2 lety

    Great video. All of Canada will benefit from this!

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      Looking forward to getting back to Canada one day. 15 years ago to the day I was last there. Time flies.

    • @benjaminsmith2066
      @benjaminsmith2066 Před 2 lety +2

      @@DiscGolfDownUnder I host the Canadian National Championship in Prince Edward Island. Sept 8-11th. I promise you the trip is worth it!!

    • @dougadamsau
      @dougadamsau Před 2 lety +1

      Great video, Matt. Since watching “Throw Canada” on Jomez a year or so back, Canada is on my hit list, Ben.

  • @AdamtheRed-
    @AdamtheRed- Před 2 lety +3

    I'd like to officially second the 5m from crocodile rule please.

  • @DanaSmith87
    @DanaSmith87 Před 2 lety

    I love that you used our Floral Park Homer Simpson Man D'oh sign. It seems to be popping up everywhere now.

  • @mikekrupicka
    @mikekrupicka Před 2 lety +2

    Great video. One quibble is showing the relief when a disc is in the corner and is not OB. The 1m from the corner needs to go through the thrown disc. It's not an arc.

  • @obscurereference6298
    @obscurereference6298 Před 2 lety +3

    So Paul's taco ace is now an actual ace.
    Mark down a -1 extra on his scorecards everyone.

  • @saltywings41
    @saltywings41 Před 2 lety +2

    Oh baby you can wedge the disc in the basket now. Blowfly about to get some serious play lol

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      Haha good luck with that. I know it happens rarely but you've probably got better chances of an ace.

  • @zacheryalderton2653
    @zacheryalderton2653 Před 2 lety +1

    HAPPY NEW YEAR

  • @LondonDiscGolfCommunity
    @LondonDiscGolfCommunity Před 2 lety +2

    Great video 👊 Questions: What is reasonably time for a bathroom break? I appreciate not all courses are the same, so it’ll take longer to get to and from the course and some people will take longer than others to use the bathroom, but it’s it say over a 10 minute walk each way and you take 5minute bathroom break, would a 25minute bathroom break be allowed, slowing down the whole tournament? And should the group wait for the player to return or play on and then aware the player with par plus 4 for missing a whole?

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +4

      That's a really good question and I think the PDGA could have been clearer on this. It will of course vary from player to player and it is the people in your group that will ultimately decide along with the TD what is reasonable. I would think disappearing for 25 minutes to be unreasonable but it would depend on the circumstances. You would not be holding up just the group but possibly the entire field if the holes are all loaded with playing groups.

    • @Flakzor123
      @Flakzor123 Před 2 lety +2

      @@DiscGolfDownUnder I agree, 25 minutes seems excessive especially since it holds up the entire field because groups behind are not allowed to pass. Shouldn't be too much of an issue at well run events (which should include access to nearby toilets). I'll have to keep my eyes open for further info on this, especially since I've had to become a bit more careful what I eat in between rounds now that I'm in my forties =)

  • @andyd8370
    @andyd8370 Před 2 lety +2

    @12:02 Since this is rare and harder to do than it seems, our group has a "house rule" that if the disc comes to rest on top of the basket (can't be intentional or from within "tap in" range) that it counts as in and you get a bonus stroke off your score. Par=-1, birdie=-2, etc.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      I've been doing it all the time lately, so this sounds like a great house rule to me 😁

  • @jodymitchell1678
    @jodymitchell1678 Před 2 lety +1

    They addressed Nikko. Cool.

  • @cameronhubbard7158
    @cameronhubbard7158 Před 2 lety +6

    Can’t believe that wedged into the basket is in now.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah good luck trying to get that disc to wedge in there. I think you deserve it if you do.

    • @NickCarroll
      @NickCarroll Před 2 lety +1

      @@DiscGolfDownUnder There are some soft putters like the Alpas and Koi which can be thrown at some baskets and go through the cage. The Infinite Discs channel has a video where they demonstrate this. I think it's their review and comparison of them both from 4 months ago. I don't think people who use those putters would necessarily aim for the basket, but there's a non-zero chance they could accidentally putt low, and the disc still end up inside the basket.

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 Před 2 lety +2

      @@NickCarroll so could the Blowfly/II and the Blunt/regular Gumputt/Driver Gumputt from DGA these have been able to do this since the new plastic change since 2000 or 2001. They could for a long time with discs making it in the 807 old ruling before in the 2000--to 2010 until the 2016 one. I have seen this happen and count with this putter a Blunt Gumputt in 2006 or so in a PDGA sanctioned tournament as the guy used the standard/Blunt Gumputters for is putting putter.

    • @NickCarroll
      @NickCarroll Před 2 lety

      @@caseysmith544 That appears to be the case. I have the Blowfly and it's pretty soft, but I think the Koi and/or Alpas may even be softer from what I've seen in video. I actually think of the Blowfly as more of a midrange, given the rim thickness, but the Gumputt more like a regular putter.

  • @DougBartonLHS
    @DougBartonLHS Před 2 lety +6

    I would like to see an extension provision added to the 30 seconds rule. In billiards, players can audibly call for one 25 second extension to their shot clock per rack. I could see players getting two per round.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +2

      Interesting idea. However, I think most players are fairly lenient with the 30 seconds. You'd have to be breaking the 30 seconds fairly often and by a good margin for your group to call you (I would think). It's not like somebody is standing there starting a timer every time you step up to your lie.

    • @nakke3
      @nakke3 Před 2 lety

      Extensions could be allowed by the group when ever needed and yea at least 1-2 should be always at disposal. So you could take/request one for a shot that needs planning. The rule is not really used anyway, but I feel at this point it puts the fair player in a disadvantage compared to the player that uses excessive time for example to a blind shot or to shots you want to reset because of the wind. I've seen Paul and Ricky both run up the hill to check out the placement of the basket. This clearly takes 1-2 min before the shot is taken.
      In pool they usually only time the slowest player in the hall so that the tournament moves along. I've been many times the guy being timed 🤭 In dg I notice I sometimes don't have time to drink water since it's played in such a horry compared to golf for example.

    • @jeramy576
      @jeramy576 Před 2 lety +1

      That's two extensions too many. I've played thousands of rounds and never remotely needed more that 15 seconds. In all aspects of life slow people are a hazard

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 Před 2 lety

      @@DiscGolfDownUnder Only place I see this being an issue in they need to have a timer clock machine that can only count down from 30 seconds is with the Pro and National tours.

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 Před 2 lety

      @@nakke3 There they were doing it for the group since everyone wanted to know exactly where the basket was so they could listen to hear if the disc made it in properly with the previous ruling.

  • @seeballgetball937
    @seeballgetball937 Před 2 lety +1

    Anything reducing the time to throw is a good thing, choose a disc line up your shot and go

  • @Discgolfanatic
    @Discgolfanatic Před 2 lety +2

    Can I get some clarification on rule 803.02? If I land in the bush, do I put my marker right behind where the bush starts, which would still be in a bad spot, or do we get a meter of relief behind the bush?

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      The rule says immediately behind the obstacle so not 1 metre.

    • @TheButlerNZ
      @TheButlerNZ Před rokem

      @@DiscGolfDownUnder Define where the boundary of a bush is...
      Now define where the boundary of a tree is...
      Now define the difference between a bush and a tree...

  • @kevingrace3522
    @kevingrace3522 Před 2 lety +2

    Who can approve bathroom breaks? Card mates only? Or the TD too? It sounds like if someone is running late to their starting hole then they could ask the TD for a bathroom break which gives them the extended time to make it to their hole. Then that person can tell their card mates that they got approval from the TD.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      The rule does say that the player has to request a bathroom break from their group. No mention of anybody else so I don't think this scenario is possible.

    • @TheButlerNZ
      @TheButlerNZ Před rokem

      @@DiscGolfDownUnder Cellphones allow you to ask a group before you even enter the carpark...

  • @nathanfrazier8525
    @nathanfrazier8525 Před 2 lety +2

    Question: what happens if a player doesn't mark their lie (example: a player putts, misses then simply picks up their putter and putts from that location without marking their lie). Is it a marking violation or a misplay violation? I've heard arguments for both but curious on what other people have to say about it.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +2

      The first rules violation to occur should be the penalty. For example if you miss the mando and end up OB, you play the missed mando because it happened first. So it should be a marking violation as this happened first. That's my take on it but again I stand to be corrected.

  • @berwynofgreyhawk5525
    @berwynofgreyhawk5525 Před 2 lety +1

    When I started playing disc golf all I had was a 141 world class….lol. I remember ordering my first Roq and softie putter……..

  • @frankbuttacavoli637
    @frankbuttacavoli637 Před 2 lety +3

    How can you pass the mando then kick into restricted space? Once you pass in the right side of it doesn’t it make it no longer restricted? The new rule doesn’t reference the disc coming to rest.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +1

      The new rule is unusual. I think the PDGA wanted to make it a lot easier to understand without 2 pages of rules that go with it. I don't think it will affect too many people but it's only a matter of time before we starting see videos of unlucky throws "missing the mando".

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 Před 2 lety

      @@DiscGolfDownUnder With some courses there is 100% backup if players in Winds going just right way a players is trying to make it past the mandatory but go back through restricted space and the one player is stuck even on the drop zone going back through the mandatory due to the winds to the point they have to literally do a place the disc on the ground as if the throw was a dropped disc each time until they make it past the mandatory with every single player needing to do this or the TD will have to have the player making the backup retee with a new score and temporarily but illegally get rid of the mandatory rules for the round and maybe even day if this starts happening again in second round.

  • @adamthomas8962
    @adamthomas8962 Před 2 lety +3

    I think that making certain changes can be a positive change for the better. Making rules more simplistic and easily understood is a better option for all,especially for beginner players starting their first tournament. Being to vague or to lengthy can confuse people and could take the fun factor away, making people possibly not want to compete in tournaments. I do like the excessive time rule. Not that I’ve played with anyone who took to much time, however I have played in a couple of tournaments where the card in front of us had that one guy who loved to analyze multiple discs he could throw and then would analyze throwing those discs Hyzer/ani/flat

  • @shibo2319
    @shibo2319 Před 2 lety +1

    So on compleating the hole rule, does it now count even if the disc goes through the cage? Thats what it sounded like

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      Yep, if you can manage to get it to go through the cage or any other part of the basket, it's counted as in as long as the disc is supported by the chains or the tray.

  • @EJ_7715
    @EJ_7715 Před 2 lety +2

    After you make a mando, does the restricted space go away?

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +1

      Good question. I would think not based on the wording of the rules. But I stand to be corrected if anybody can find wording to say otherwise.

    • @mikekrupicka
      @mikekrupicka Před 2 lety

      @@DiscGolfDownUnder Correct. There is no such thing as making a mando. The restricted space remains.

  • @ChrisFight2live
    @ChrisFight2live Před 2 lety +2

    On a hole with a creek you gotta throw over. The baskets on the other side. If you land in the center of the creek without making it over, youre ob, and you mark your lie behind the creek and you can go as far back as you want on a straight line . Is this rule still the same or has that changed?

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +3

      That hasn't changed.

    • @playdiscgolf1546
      @playdiscgolf1546 Před 2 lety

      It’s amazing how many people don’t realize you can take the disc back as far as the teepad when you go OB like that

  • @Skiedragon
    @Skiedragon Před 2 lety +1

    Can you no longer have horizontal mandos i.e. triple mandos where you throw through a gate, if the shape of a mando is always a *vertical* plane?

    • @mehameha4453
      @mehameha4453 Před 2 lety

      Like Idlewild and Winthrop? Both have horizontal mandatories.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +1

      You can still have triple mandos. The vertical plane would begin above the horizontal crossbar.

    • @Skiedragon
      @Skiedragon Před 2 lety

      @@DiscGolfDownUnder Alright. That's what I thought, even though in mathematics a "plane" always extends indefinitely into space, so with that definition you couldn't have gate mandos.

  • @lokinakor1
    @lokinakor1 Před 2 lety +2

    804.01 How can you aim at the target instead of the mando? What if you cannot see the basket yet? How can you be expected to set your lie to a blind target and then still be forced to shoot through the mando if they are two different directions?

    • @lokinakor1
      @lokinakor1 Před 2 lety

      As if in your diagram shown, the basket was far down a hill and blocked by trees etc. When I mark my lie toward the target, then I line up my step up to the side of my marker instead of behind it, am I forced to run up facing the target and then suddenly shoot 90 degrees off to the side to get around the mando? The card will see me marking a lie. Then they will see me stepping up to 9 o'clock instead of behind 6 o'clock and will assume I have made a foot fault of some kind if I shoot toward the mando. This is going to be confusing. From a player's perspective, it changes the entire game if I have to step up to the marker on the side instead of behind it. People are going to step all over their markers now and penalties are going to be rampant. Keep it simple philosophy would dictate that we look at it from the simplest execution of the rule. If I play every marker the exact same, we can regulate a rule regarding it. If we have multiple ways of addressing the lie, then it leaves too many windows open for misinterpretation and misunderstanding. This rule change actually conflicts with the other rule changes. The mandatory path is designated and a flow of the fairway is too. The direction of the fairway is not always static from start to finish. Obviously the rule regarding marking the lie should relate to the direction of the shot OR the flow of the fairway. Every lie would be marked and played in the direction of the shot, until such time as the player advances to where they are, from whatever distance, openly approaching the green. Then and only then, should a rule force the player to mark their lie in in relation to the target. Until you are able to attack the target, the lie should relate to the shot at hand. If I'm in the woods, abut I just want to pitch out 20 feet to get an open look to the green. I must now mark my lie to the target, then I will lean out toward my intended play, shortening the distance I must throw in order to get clear. Now I only have to make a ten foot putt to get back into the fairway. This rule change just legalized cheating and it's dumb.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      Yep, it's weird and unnatural. I had a case on the weekend with a mando and you really have to be aware of the new rule and make sure you play the lie correctly.

    • @TheButlerNZ
      @TheButlerNZ Před rokem

      in theory, in a dog leg, your rear foot (farthest from say a mando) could be closer to the target and therefore a fault, even though your front foot is completely within the lie.
      I can see some having fun with this... especially when the mando makes a hole a V meaning you are facing away from the T in some shots.

  • @aarot4511
    @aarot4511 Před 2 lety +2

    Does new mandatory rule (804.01) break all the U-shaped holes? :D

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      I think course designers will definitely have to go back and look at how they play differently under the new rule and perhaps tweak the mando to avoid any problems. I know we had a look at our local course and we've had to make slight changes on a dogleg hole.

  • @robertjones1730
    @robertjones1730 Před 2 lety +5

    Well now how's your average pot smoker supposed to understand all this lawyer talk?

  • @mariusjohnsen4545
    @mariusjohnsen4545 Před 2 lety +1

    Great and clear coverage, but hard to hear what you are saying over the music. Maybe consider dropping the levels in the mix so to reduce hearing strain

  • @TheBeachboy72
    @TheBeachboy72 Před 2 lety +1

    Isint it allowed to throw 1m from OB even if you diddnt throw OB? so czcams.com/video/qD6m64Jr-KI/video.html should be about 3 meters from the corner where there where one meter on each side of the disc. I remember a Idlewind hole 16 corner green , i think KJ told Conrad to move ahead.. is this rule gone?

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      If you didn't go OB the rule states up to 1 metre on a perpendicular angle, so no, under the old rules you couldnt come out of the corner. If you were right in the corner you may not have had anywhere to move to and possibly even nowhere to legally stand. The new rule should fix this problem when it occurs.

    • @mikekrupicka
      @mikekrupicka Před 2 lety

      The relief taken at Idlewood hole 16 corner before is not allowed in 2022. The relief is limited to 1m.

  • @understabledave
    @understabledave Před 2 lety +1

    So the change to holing out means that a disc that lands atop the basket and slips through a big gap in the top bars and falls into the basket is actually good? I had one of those and counted it as no good. Now I know I was really only +12 instead of +13! Yay for me. Oh wait... now my scorecard was incorrect so I'm +14....

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      You're correct, but sounds like the basket needs repair to prevent this.

  • @TheButlerNZ
    @TheButlerNZ Před rokem

    810-D ...
    So you shoot for a gap in the trees, hit a tree and the disk rebounds and hits you or your bag etc...
    You loose the intended shot.
    You loose 2 further penalty shots..
    You are ready to hit that tree again 3 shots down. Fairly large penalty for a bad shot?.
    (D does not mention accidental or a inability to avoid interference. )...
    811-F5 If your running late can you request a toilet break BEFORE you get to the start of a round...
    On that same note.. If you are in need of a toilet break do you have to make it to the start of a hole so you can request a break.
    With the removal of 804.01-D... is the lie now always the target, regardless of the objects. (So a dogleg around a building or through a tunnel would require knowledge of a not visible target, and a lie that can be stretched toward the heading as long as it is not stretched toward the target (i.e a foot on the lie and the other at full stretch toward a mando as long as it is outside a perpendicular line to the target.
    Relief from an obstacle...
    Define where the boundary of a bush is...
    Now define where the boundary of a tree is...
    Now define the difference between a bush and a tree...
    If a disk is immediately behind the trunk, this becomes very important. At what point can I step out of vegetation before it becomes a tree...

  • @ClimbingKeen
    @ClimbingKeen Před 2 lety +2

    HOW THE FUCK CAN A DISC BE HANGING ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BASKET AND COUNT AS IN BUT ON TOP OF THE BASKET DOESNT COUNT? So stupid.

  • @Flakzor123
    @Flakzor123 Před 2 lety +3

    So the "self interference" is only a clarification as the result is the same as before in your example, it basically becomes a forced "abandon throw" call since the player always has the option to abandon a throw (which will still count towards his total) and at the cost of a 1 stroke penalty resume play from the same lie.

    • @mattiassennehed9918
      @mattiassennehed9918 Před 2 lety

      I think it’s a change. Before player 2 could get a penelty if leaving bag in a spot where it was hit by player 1:S missed putt. As I understand that does not give anyone a penelty no longer?

    • @Flakzor123
      @Flakzor123 Před 2 lety

      @@mattiassennehed9918 that rule isn't changed, only the part about interfering with your own throw was updated. Refusing to move your equipment at the request of the player about to throw is a courtesy violation same as before, intentionally placing anything to block a throw is 2 penaltystrokes also same as before. This is actually the same for your own throw but just clarified. Example: you throw(1 stroke) + you get a penalty of 1 for interfering with your own shot and then have to resume play without advancing the lie (same as "abandon throw") Edit: I think I misunderstood your post and I think that rule was misunderstood by many players... people often scrambled to move bags on the ground to avoid interfering but from what I can tell leaving your bag on the ground and having it hit by a disc in play was not againt the rules according to the 2018 revision either unless you were asked to move it before the throw. Basically if noone on your card realized that your bag was in a position you should have been safe from penalties according to the interference rule (unless that is referenced in other sections somehow).

  • @brownyponvelil
    @brownyponvelil Před 2 lety

    Where to watch the disc golf game

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +1

      In person or on CZcams? Plenty of great coverage on CZcams from Jomez Pro, Gatekeeper Media, Central Coast and TheDiscGolfGuy.

    • @playdiscgolf1546
      @playdiscgolf1546 Před 2 lety

      Fox Hills Disc golf, Crew 42, Ace Run Pro, PDGA, The Spin TV, Disc Golf Pro Tour

  • @jayjames8026
    @jayjames8026 Před 2 lety +1

    Grow the sport!

  • @nathanfrazier8525
    @nathanfrazier8525 Před 2 lety +1

    Hmm I don't like the lack of option to start on a different hole. I played a tournament where no one showed up to my starting hole. So I simply jumped on another card and talked to the TD.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +1

      I guess if you talk to the TD and they reorganise the groups before start of play, this is OK.

    • @mikeyseibert1406
      @mikeyseibert1406 Před 2 lety +1

      The rules still state if nobody shows up on your card, you go forward or backward 1 hole and join that card.

  • @michaelcanci8345
    @michaelcanci8345 Před 2 lety +1

    Matt I really liked the content in the video but found the background music too loud and distracting.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      Thanks for the feedback Mick. I was thinking it was too loud in spots, but wasn't happy with the result when I reduced the volume.

  • @scatterbrain9490
    @scatterbrain9490 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm thinking about starting the UDGA, the unprofessional disc golf association, you'd get a stroke for being uncool or a rules stickler, good times or go home, if you don't have money for entry fee, your beers can be given in its place etc

    • @mehameha4453
      @mehameha4453 Před 2 lety +1

      We old timers who started in the 1970’s play from our lie. As the game was intended. If the disc is a lost disc, (water, cliff, or any reason), you lose a stroke and play from where everyone agrees. If anyone complains or cries about rules or calls a falling foot or foot fault, they get warned. If they do it again they are banned for a month. No one ever does it because it’s not what disc golf is about. Every time you get money and prizes involved people get weird. Even some leagues in cities have some guys playing that have the wrong attitude about disc golf. So I’m about where you are. Now we need a positive name for the people that care more about a good time, having good friends, and getting some exercise and a possible ace, than if you win.

    • @scatterbrain9490
      @scatterbrain9490 Před 2 lety

      @@mehameha4453 your official UDGA number is, 002😎

    • @mehameha4453
      @mehameha4453 Před 2 lety

      @@scatterbrain9490 first course I played was 1970 with upright tires, braced by 2 bricks at the base so it stays upright , as baskets. For leagues and tournaments I get having rules. I’m not that good but hold my own against players under 300’ drives. Wooded courses are great for me too as it gives me a chance to keep the score closer. But I really don’t care if I win. We have all had phenomenal shots and that’s what matters, not if your feet are off a hair. All these OB rules is a hell of an advantage and even in leagues I cannot bring myself to use such rules just to get a better score. I just need to take my medicine and do better on my first throw next time. Just feels like cheating. I am not a PDGA member. I wasn’t even an IFA member. I don’t need that to have fun. I will be doing a 50 state tour when this Covid ends. One state per month for a week. It is 52 years now but Covid stopped my 50 year anniversary. It will be a 4 year journey with postings on a separate CZcams channel. Can’t start it until Covid breaks.

  • @arvopenaali896
    @arvopenaali896 Před 2 lety +1

    So if you are ever heading towards a quadruple bogey or worse, just go take a dump in the woods and join the card on the next hole?

  • @TheUltimateFlyerFan
    @TheUltimateFlyerFan Před 2 lety

    The dinging sound at the 11:45 mark was way too loud

  • @jasonfrank6141
    @jasonfrank6141 Před 2 lety

    What is reasonable time? PDGA removed this wording from the Score Card ruling, but added it to the bathroom break ruling. Where are the bathrooms...near the Clubhouse, the food stands, your car? Number 1, number 2? PDGA right back to "What is reasonable time?"

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +1

      It will be interesting to see how this rule plays out. I expect it will need another revision soon. I discussed with some other players and got a wife range of answers. Around 2 minutes was the typical answer but that assumes the toilet is next to where you're playing. And what about if number 2 calls?

  • @andrewdouse3959
    @andrewdouse3959 Před 2 lety +2

    You don't have to have a Mando drop zone. If there is one you go to it, if not it's previous lie.

    • @broheme8922
      @broheme8922 Před 2 lety

      exactly as he said

    • @andrewdouse3959
      @andrewdouse3959 Před 2 lety

      @@broheme8922 having just said "and finally a drop zone must be marked for each mando" which is wrong, he then sais the correct info while showing the text of the rule, so it contradicts itself. I was just pointing out which is correct, as it stood out to me whilst watching. :)

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah OK, I should have said "should" instead of "must". But honestly that's a tough penalty if you miss the mando, to return to your previous lie.

    • @Flakzor123
      @Flakzor123 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DiscGolfDownUnder yes it is and according to the tour standards competitions played on courses without a dropzone within 10m of the mando requires a waiver from the Director of Event Support.

    • @andrewdouse3959
      @andrewdouse3959 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Flakzor123 so there does have to be a drop zone? and it has to be within 10m of the mando?... I've just found the bit in the pdga tour standards {international tour standards} " Any mandatory that does not have a drop zone within 10 meters of the mandatory requires a waiver from the Director of Event Support {Europe Tour Manager or the Event Support Team Director}. This includes all mandatories that do not have a defined drop zone and thereby require a throw from the previous lie. " So the default is that there must be a drop zone, I was wrong, but now I not only know whats right but where to find it!

  • @haukionkannel
    @haukionkannel Před 2 lety

    That num 10 is... well need to be explained ones more. Did not get that one...

  • @arvopenaali896
    @arvopenaali896 Před 2 lety +1

    I don't think the new mando rule is any easier to follow.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      Agree. Less words and maybe simpler for new players who haven't been corrupted by the old rule.

  • @jayburr9784
    @jayburr9784 Před 2 lety +3

    Lose the music. It’s distracting. Other than that nice info

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      Your wish has been granted. czcams.com/video/LqRC3bDrUZ4/video.html

  • @playdiscgolf1546
    @playdiscgolf1546 Před 2 lety +2

    Not a fan of removing the distraction part of excessive time. I don’t think someone should have to putt while another group is moving behind the basket. I could see this rule change being a problem if actually enforced

    • @jlouis91
      @jlouis91 Před 2 lety +1

      So in this hypothetical scenario where a player has assumed a stance behind his lie and is lining up his putt, and a group walks past maybe 30m away, clearly visible to all members of the card. Should the putting player be allowed to step away from their lie entirely and then retake their stance once the group has passed, resetting their clock? I cant imagine any reasonable person not allowing this to happen.

  • @caseysmith544
    @caseysmith544 Před 2 lety

    807 just reverted back to the old ruling because the PDGA Rules people forgot about blind makes and that some baskets are blind makes no matter where unless under the basket cage.

    • @snowe..
      @snowe.. Před 2 lety

      where did you see that? Rule is updated on PDGA's website as of today, and the whole point of the rule was because they knew about blind aces, he literally brings it up in the video.

  • @movros99
    @movros99 Před 2 lety +1

    Music is way too loud and unnecessary.

  • @brekkis
    @brekkis Před 2 lety +1

    Would love this without the music, it was way loud and made it hard to pay attention, it is actually louder then ur voice, you guys should try to keep it lower then the guy speaking the next time.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      Will be losing the music in future except for flight tests.

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety

      No music in this one 😉 czcams.com/video/LqRC3bDrUZ4/video.html

  • @toxicvillain
    @toxicvillain Před 2 lety +3

    Hope you don't have to take a shit midround!

    • @DiscGolfDownUnder
      @DiscGolfDownUnder  Před 2 lety +4

      Reasonable time I guess. If ya gotta go, ya gotta go.

    • @ronjones-6977
      @ronjones-6977 Před 2 lety

      @@DiscGolfDownUnder Had a buddy that had to finish a round in the rain at Master's Cup without his towel. He said it was either sacrifice the towel or one of his socks. I'm looking at you, Will Brown.

    • @playdiscgolf1546
      @playdiscgolf1546 Před 2 lety

      @@ronjones-6977 had a guy go take a crap on the 2nd to last hole of the tournament and never come back lmao 😂

  • @brian6speed
    @brian6speed Před 2 lety +1

    I can't wait to use stopwatch alarm on my phone anytime a player takes over 30 seconds. It is gonna be amazing seeing ppl's butthurt haha. We need to record the times of bathroom breaks as well. Anything over 2 minutes should be a penalty stroke for every extra minute.

    • @haukionkannel
      @haukionkannel Před 2 lety

      If the neaserst bahtroom is 10 min walk in one direction and same 10 min back... Well not so good to have that 2 min rule. But that 30 s should be fine and can cause some difficulties in strong wind situation (but speed up the game quite a lot!)

  • @mehameha4453
    @mehameha4453 Před 2 lety +1

    Never liked the OB rule that lets you walk your disc to any spot on your lie to throw your next shot. Just feels like a hell of an advantage and kinda cheating. Since 1970 we had to throw from our lie. To me it’s sacrilegious. Now they are giving another advantage with the OB. No wonder their scores are lower. They play by different rules and therefore not the same game we played. Maybe it’s time we start our own league that keeps the original throw from your lie rule. A more pure game of dealing with your mistakes as it always was. Sorry just not liking the new options. Seems like cheating.

    • @haukionkannel
      @haukionkannel Před 2 lety

      Those crocodiles can be really dangerous if you don´t hava that at least 5m relief...
      :)
      But yeah I can see the reasoning behing your opinion. I have played the both and don´t care as soon as everyone use same rules. And in this that 5 to 10m relief from crocodile pond sounds good...