(pt. 2) Converting from Traditionalist Catholic to Orthodox: 5 MORE Frustrations

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  • čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
  • What have you struggled with in your conversion? Let me know in the comments!

Komentáře • 108

  • @WPAOrthodox
    @WPAOrthodox Před 11 dny +3

    Glory to God ☦️☦️☦️ welcome home. I also converted from the Roman Catholic Church to the Orthodox Church and have learned so much and hope you keep up the good work

  • @theowilmot1841
    @theowilmot1841 Před 17 dny +7

    I was made an Orthodox catechumen on the 15th June - on the eve of the Sunday of the Fathers of the First Ecumenical Council, appropriately enough! 🙂

  • @JohnAlbinus
    @JohnAlbinus Před 21 dnem +14

    Wife and I are currently TLM Catholics who are contemplating moving to Orthodoxy. Please pray for us! Great video.

    • @TheRomanOrthodox
      @TheRomanOrthodox  Před 21 dnem +5

      You are certainly in my prayers!

    • @bengensiejewski5002
      @bengensiejewski5002 Před 17 dny +5

      I'll pray you don't. Traditional Catholics don't deny the Catholic Church.

    • @Tollski
      @Tollski Před 16 dny +3

      The grass is not greener in Orthodoxy. The Papacy is true. I'll pray for you.

    • @JohnAlbinus
      @JohnAlbinus Před 10 dny

      @@Tollski Thank you brother, I appreciate you!

  • @handmaidleah
    @handmaidleah Před 20 dny +7

    if one prefers Gregorian Chant, then one may enjoy Valaam Chant as an alternative, it is sublime.

  • @Patriarch.Chadimus
    @Patriarch.Chadimus Před 17 dny +4

    I will say, I don't know of your familiarity with it, but as a Western-rite Orthodox Christian who converted from being a Traditional Catholic, I actually have found a greater appreciation for these traditions I thought I wouldn't be able to experience in Orthodoxy.

  • @FaithfulComforter
    @FaithfulComforter Před 22 dny +8

    I grew up Roman Catholic, welcome home brother 🙏☦️❤️

  • @rumpelstiltskin9768
    @rumpelstiltskin9768 Před 22 dny +6

    Loving it. Here, in Japan, the Orthodox liturgical readins are based on a Bible that was translated back in the Meiji period (late 1800's) . The chinese characters are very old and non-standard today. It was a point of high cuiriousity when I showed Japanese acquianitnces around me. The missus said if they want more converts they are going to have to update their Bible. FWIW>

  • @gillianc6514
    @gillianc6514 Před 22 dny +6

    I am a coward, I haven't told most of my Catholic friends. I am 2000 miles away, but they will have to know soon. My biggest problems is that I am godmother to some of their children. Children I have not ceased praying for. This is a very difficult situation.
    St John Cassian proved my bridge to Orthodoxy, but I was having such difficulty finding an Orthodox priest to take me seriously that I ended up praying to St Rita (my Catholic patron) for it to happen, if it were God's will. The rest is history and her statue is still on my dresser.

    • @TheRomanOrthodox
      @TheRomanOrthodox  Před 22 dny

      That's a tough one! I have never known what to do with Catholic godchildren after conversion. I think I would want to talk it over with their parents to see what they want to do.

    • @bengensiejewski5002
      @bengensiejewski5002 Před 17 dny +1

      Sounds like a demon talking rather than the intercession of a faithful Catholic.

    • @gillianc6514
      @gillianc6514 Před 16 dny +1

      @@bengensiejewski5002 No talking statues pls, I have never gone in for that sort of stuff, I have always been governed by the Eastern concept of 'prelest'.

    • @bengensiejewski5002
      @bengensiejewski5002 Před 16 dny +1

      @@gillianc6514 A saint wouldn't guide you toward schism.

    • @gillianc6514
      @gillianc6514 Před 16 dny

      @@bengensiejewski5002 Exactly!!

  • @gillianc6514
    @gillianc6514 Před 22 dny +4

    I am an English speaking Trad Cath who converted to Orthodoxy in Romania. I would like to add that here too, women are more involved in the Liturgy and the first time I saw female monastics acting as thurifers in a procession, my mind threw a hissy fit! On the other side, the designation of men on the right and women on the left of the narthex is very well adhered to and the order for receiving Communion; infants, children, men then women would have even some Trad Caths turning into feminists! Incidentally I have heard three different Romanian versions of the Our Father whilst I have been here, the translation thing is not confined to being an English issue.

    • @TheRomanOrthodox
      @TheRomanOrthodox  Před 22 dny

      That is really interesting! I didn't know other languages had such translation "diversity."

  • @dianelevy419
    @dianelevy419 Před 16 dny +5

    Coming from Novis Ordo to Byzantine Catholic and this past year, fully Orthodox. It’s been a very lonely road but I would never go back. Just found your channel and it is a comfort as most converts I meet are former Protestants. Thank you.

    • @TheRomanOrthodox
      @TheRomanOrthodox  Před 16 dny

      Thank you for dropping by! I am sure as a Byzantine Catholic turned Orthodox, there are even MORE challenges (like having the divine liturgy explained to you despite having attended it for years).

    • @dianelevy419
      @dianelevy419 Před 16 dny

      @@TheRomanOrthodox It was only for a year that I attended a local Byzantine mission and the services there were quite limited. I couldn’t take the local RCC parish liturgies anymore even though I still believe they consecrate the true body and blood of Christ. I not only lost most of my contacts in the parish ( my dear beloved husband still remains there as a deacon), but I also lost friends from the local charismatic Catholic gatherings which I avoid now like the plague, even though they are good ,truth seeking people. I found a wonderful monastery 40 minutes from home and I love their English Byzantine chanting, but most people who attend there live at least an hour away in all directions so it is difficult to form close friendships. All the losses though are worth it to me as I finally feel that I can put my trust in truth of Orthodoxy and of course with the Lord, I am never really alone in this world. God bless you.

    • @Gregori-mi2vy8nc6y
      @Gregori-mi2vy8nc6y Před 5 dny

      God bless you!

  • @danocinneide1885
    @danocinneide1885 Před 17 dny +4

    Matt 10:2...The names of the twelve apostles are these..First Simon who is called Peter...

    • @javierduenasjimenez7930
      @javierduenasjimenez7930 Před 16 dny

      In every gospel the order is different, but the only thing they all have in common is that Peter is the first and Judas the last one

    • @johnnyd2383
      @johnnyd2383 Před 12 dny

      Why is the St. Andrew known as "first called".?

    • @danocinneide1885
      @danocinneide1885 Před 11 dny

      @@johnnyd2383 Because he was first to be called...and then Our Lord appointed Simon as First (or head) of all the apostles

    • @johnnyd2383
      @johnnyd2383 Před 11 dny

      @@danocinneide1885 In your wet heretical dreams. Do you know that sees of Antioch and Alexandria were established by the St. Peter and St. Mark in a case of Alexandria prior to see of Rome.? So your heretical wet dreams have no basis in historical facts.

    • @danocinneide1885
      @danocinneide1885 Před 8 dny

      Because he was first to meet Our Lord... but Peter is First in leadership...servant leadership at that.

  • @CosmicMystery7
    @CosmicMystery7 Před 22 dny +3

    Folks coming from Trad RC backgrounds will probably find Russian chant less abrasive at first.

  • @johnnyd2383
    @johnnyd2383 Před 12 dny +1

    Welcome home brother.! ☦☦☦

  • @Damascene749
    @Damascene749 Před 22 dny +3

    Brother. Welcome home.

  • @JUJUisKARMA
    @JUJUisKARMA Před 22 dny +3

    I’m a super fan

  • @Gregori-mi2vy8nc6y
    @Gregori-mi2vy8nc6y Před 5 dny +1

    Μείνετε δυνατοί κατά τη διάρκεια του ταξιδιού σας στην Αρχαία Καθολική Πίστη της Ορθοδοξίας!!

  • @OrthodoxChristianBeliever

    There Are Some Orthodox Churches In Spain too, Could they Do The Divine Liturgy In English, Spanish, And Whichever language they Do them In?

  • @gunshotlagoon922
    @gunshotlagoon922 Před 14 dny

    I'm happy you have found your home amongst the other thousands of churches you could have chosen. But as someone who once attended a Russian Orthodox Church, I still have a hard time believing the Orthodox Church is the one true church. Eastern Orthodoxy is purely and exclusively Byzantine (and further divided amongst nationalistic lines) that it's difficult for me to accept that in order to be in Christ's one true church everyone must surrender to this single isolated liturgical rite.

    • @nathankirwan2565
      @nathankirwan2565 Před 14 dny

      It isnt just Byzantine

    • @gunshotlagoon922
      @gunshotlagoon922 Před 14 dny

      @@nathankirwan2565 Then what else does it consist of?

    • @nathankirwan2565
      @nathankirwan2565 Před 13 dny

      @@gunshotlagoon922 The Western Rite is made up of a few different rites.
      But Byzantine Rite certainly has the most significant usage by far.

    • @gunshotlagoon922
      @gunshotlagoon922 Před 13 dny

      @@nathankirwan2565 The Western rite was made up by some German in the 19th century and Orthodoxy in general doesn't even take it that seriously enough to bother with it. Eastern Orthodoxy is first and foremost defined by its Byzantine liturgical traditions. Most if not all bishops present in the Western rite are under the Byzantine rite anyway. They still have to surrender to Byzantinization while throwing in Western forms of expression.

    • @nathankirwan2565
      @nathankirwan2565 Před 13 dny

      @@gunshotlagoon922
      The Western Rite within Eastern Orthodoxy is not the same as the Western Orthodox Church.
      Western Rite was started by the likes of Saint Tikhon, and supported by other Saints such as Saint John of San Francisco.
      It does have dissenters because of the lack of continuity, but it does have a lot of backing. The reason for the Byzantine Rite being so common in Eastern Orthodoxy is because of Political History - it is known as Roman Orthodox, under one empire. Just the way things worked out.

  • @DavidLopez-gv8mo
    @DavidLopez-gv8mo Před 14 dny

    How about that Filioque?

  • @hestolemybrainatyouthcamp7750

    Have experienced Western Rite Orthodoxy?

    • @bengensiejewski5002
      @bengensiejewski5002 Před 17 dny +1

      Which is widely mocked and rejected by many Orthodox.

    • @hestolemybrainatyouthcamp7750
      @hestolemybrainatyouthcamp7750 Před 17 dny

      @@bengensiejewski5002 That's unfortunate- guess they need to take that up with a few Patriarchs and Bishops. Bless Them!

    • @TheRomanOrthodox
      @TheRomanOrthodox  Před 16 dny

      Yes

    • @bengensiejewski5002
      @bengensiejewski5002 Před 16 dny

      @@hestolemybrainatyouthcamp7750 It's because it doesn't have a place among the Orthodox. The Catholic Church is the universal Church.

    • @fisharmor
      @fisharmor Před 13 dny

      @@bengensiejewski5002 And many Orthodox form ethnic enclave churches that don't welcome outsiders. And many Orthodox actively discourage congregational singing. And many Orthodox actively push corrective baptism.
      None of this is right.
      The Western Rite is bringing people to Orthodoxy. That cannot be denied.

  • @102483989
    @102483989 Před 22 dny +2

    Why change from catholic to orthodox? especially if you are not Eastern European or from the more eastern countries of the world? I dont understand why want for someone else to do this?

    • @dashcamacademy6457
      @dashcamacademy6457 Před 22 dny

      worshiping God is spirit and truth.....

    • @TheRomanOrthodox
      @TheRomanOrthodox  Před 22 dny +10

      Thanks for dropping by! The simple fact is that I believe Eastern Orthodox to be the true Church founded by Jesus Christ for all people in all nations. I do not believe that the Roman Catholic Church is that Church. And, I believe that the Orthodox Church has the way of eternal life, and the Roman Catholic Church doesn't.

    • @MariaDeJesus06
      @MariaDeJesus06 Před 19 dny +1

      @@TheRomanOrthodox Well, we as catholics belive the same, guess that we will have to wait to the end to see who were right...

    • @mariorizkallah5383
      @mariorizkallah5383 Před 16 dny +1

      @@MariaDeJesus06wait and see? We arent muslims, we can read the Church Fathers

    • @hiltonchapman4844
      @hiltonchapman4844 Před 16 dny

      ​@@TheRomanOrthodoxI have no issues with your conversion away from Roman Catholicism.
      But your reasoning is puerile beyond belief.
      If you really want to be Orthodox then your only reason should be:
      (1 and only 1) the Holy Ghost does NOT proceed from the Father AND the Son.
      Everything else pales into insignificance (including the issue of "Supreme Pontiff".
      No generalities.
      And I sincerely wish you well in your new home!
      HC-JAIPUR (26/06/2024)
      .

  • @gerardducharme2146
    @gerardducharme2146 Před 21 dnem +4

    Sorry, to see you become Orthodox, well the Catholic Church is the True Church. I attended the SSPX parish in Canada. I will pray for you and all who have left the church.

    • @Madokaexe
      @Madokaexe Před 21 dnem +2

      The sspx is heretical and the pope is against it.

    • @MariaDeJesus06
      @MariaDeJesus06 Před 19 dny +1

      I am from the sspx in south america!
      I will also be praying for them

    • @xravenx24fe
      @xravenx24fe Před 16 dny

      If you are SSPX you aren't a real Catholic. I wouldn't be surprised if the Pope disbands the order in due time.

    • @Porphyrios02
      @Porphyrios02 Před 15 dny +2

      he came to the true chruch

  • @AS-np3yq
    @AS-np3yq Před 22 dny +3

    Just be greek-catholic...

    • @TheRomanOrthodox
      @TheRomanOrthodox  Před 22 dny +10

      Um...no? Why would I do that? I like St. Porphyrios of Kafsokalyvia too much.

    • @bengensiejewski5002
      @bengensiejewski5002 Před 17 dny +1

      @@TheRomanOrthodox I would hope you would like the Truth more. Question: Is contraception wrong?

    • @TheRomanOrthodox
      @TheRomanOrthodox  Před 16 dny +1

      @@bengensiejewski5002 By default, the use of contraceptives is wrong, but there are some exceptions that one should navigate with the help of a spiritual father.

    • @javierduenasjimenez7930
      @javierduenasjimenez7930 Před 16 dny

      ​@@TheRomanOrthodox Either something is a sin or not. There is no such thing as "unsinful sins"

    • @bengensiejewski5002
      @bengensiejewski5002 Před 16 dny +2

      @@TheRomanOrthodox Where has the Orthodox Church spoken about this?
      "Exceptions" is another way of saying the Orthodox lacks a clear understanding and teaching regarding this issue.

  • @JWMTR
    @JWMTR Před 21 dnem +10

    I pray for your return home to the Catholic Faith.

    • @TheRomanOrthodox
      @TheRomanOrthodox  Před 21 dnem +11

      I follow the true Catholic and Orthodox faith. But thank you for your concern!

    • @javierduenasjimenez7930
      @javierduenasjimenez7930 Před 16 dny

      ​@@TheRomanOrthodox Have you tried the genuine true orthodoxy!

    • @TheRomanOrthodox
      @TheRomanOrthodox  Před 15 dny +1

      @@javierduenasjimenez7930 Such a misnomer for a tiny clique.

    • @javierduenasjimenez7930
      @javierduenasjimenez7930 Před 15 dny

      ​@@TheRomanOrthodox What do you think about them? ROCOR and similars

    • @TheRomanOrthodox
      @TheRomanOrthodox  Před 15 dny +1

      @@javierduenasjimenez7930 ROCOR is under the Moscow Patriarchate and not really part of that movement. It is a strict jurisdiction, for sure, but a wonderful, blessed one. As for the schismatic groups, I am not a huge fan.