SNK/Unico Neo Geo MVSX Review!
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- In today's video we take a look at and review the Neo Geo MVSX bartop arcade by Unico. This machine is licensed by SNK and is very similar in style to the popular Arcade1Up units. We'll take a look at the games, the emulation, the build, and controls and see how it all stacks up!
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This is the only review of this product on planet earth worth listening to
That might be overselling it, but thank you lol. I probably could have spent another few days with it but I didn’t want to overdo it since so many reviews were already out.
Agreed! Great review!
True. This is the only review that talked about the input lag with real numbers. Basically the only serious review worth watching.
SO DAMN TRUE !!
Scarlet Sprites is the truth !!
SO DAMN TRUE !!
Scarlet Sprites is the truth !!
Your video editing, articulation and enthusiasm are second to none my friend. Loving the channel.
Thanks Shey, hope this was helpful. Glad you liked it!
Very well put together video. I like how you are able to calmly tell us and compare why you don't like joystick/buttons compared to real arcade ones. I can tell you have great knowledge of arcade devices. This is the first and only video of yours that I watched. You got me hooked so I subbed.
Thanks man, and welcome! It’s a pretty niche channel but I like it that way as well as the people who find their way here.
I have to say this is the most positive review I have seen on this thing so far
It’s really just about the controls. If those can be tidied up I think this is good to go for the right person.
thank you for the mvsx review, i was waiting for yours, i enjoyed it a lot 👍👌
Thank you for taking the time to say so, much appreciated Yann!
Very nice and thorough review, glad I picked this up.
I think you’ll be happy with it honestly. You know the pros and cons, but ultimately you’re getting a pretty solid machine that can and will be modded down the line.
@@ScarletSprites yeah I've had two Gold cabs in the garage for years, 1 waiting on repairs (backup RAM error), both on restoration, and of course, room. This will do nice I think in the interim.
Best review Ive seen with great comparisons back to the original hardware. You know what youre talking about and it comes through in the vid!
Thanks I’m glad that you found value in the video. It’s tough when so many others are already out there.
This was a really well done review. Great job! I enjoyed hearing your opinion.
Thanks man, it was nice to be able to take a look at this since I wouldn’t have otherwise had a chance to see one.
Subscribed after this review as I found it to be delivered really well. Thank you 👍
Thanks for the sub!
Cool and thanks for opening her up! Interesting options they chose. See if they do offer another "classics" pack.
Yeah, I have some other footage of when I had it opened but I had to really dial that part of it back. I’m personally not as invested in the SBC, so I covered 80% of what I wanted to anyways with the controls I guess.
Excellent as always my friend! Keep up the great work you do!
Thanks for the kind words Carlos, greatly appreciate it.
Excellent review! Thank you so much! 👍👍
Dude great review! Fair and balanced. I enjoyed this thoroughly and it didn’t take away from the unit. Great stuff, thank you!
Glad to hear it Adam, thanks for the feedback.
This product actually interested me. Having watched a number of reviews, it falls just short of my expectations. Here are my "Non-Hands On" impressions for what it's worth.
-First and foremost is price. While the MSRP doesn't scare me... what you are getting at that retail price had better be worth it. This isn't a $75 mini console or a $150 arcade stick with an emulator in it... this is a bartop arcade system. I don't think $450 is too much to ask... as long as you do it right.
-Game selection. I think it's wonderful that we live in an age where we can get 50 officially licensed games for a reasonable price. That being said, we have also been sold these games multiple games already. The only reason we are willing to buy them again is because the cost of admission is so affordable. For a 50 game line up... not having ANY shooters or ANY beat-um-ups is very short sighted. We don't need every blessed release of King of Fighters at the determine of lacking a small selection of shooters and beat-um-ups. Now... if they planned to make expanding the library legitimately for a reasonable price... that's forgivable and something I would have happily done down the line.
-Build quality.
For me this incorporates the design and construction of the unit, the designers choice in materials and the emulation/front end software. I'm sure a lot of people sat at a long table and discussed the plan, the budget, and very smart people made calls. They spent a good bit of money in some places, and went on the cheaper side for other things. There are a lot of pieces to this so I'm going to break it up.
-From what I can see, the front end an emulator is nothing to complain about. Yes, emulation is going to have some lag, that's to be expected... but there are tweaks you can make that keep that to a nearly unnoticeable. For instance, the PolyMega seems to have made these labor investments, and what they produced is a marvel for software emulation.
-Next is the enclosure. Every review I have seen has spoken highly at the ruggedness of the cabinet... and have mentioned that it is nothing gypsy like the Arcade1Up. This might be the strongest selling point if you ask me. You can't get this wrong, because if you do, you lost the customer who actually would spend $450 on this, and it looks like Unico nailed this. Bravo!
-Marquee and speakers. These are details that could get overlooked. If you ask me, investing a little money making these impressive is worth it. The marquee seems fine, but it would have been nice if they stuck to the Big Red design and threw 2 mini-marquees that could be swapped out with after market reproductions that fit this unit (hey more opportunities for you to upsell Unico!). The speakers seem "fine". Again, I think it would be worth it to invest an extra $10 to have some commanding speakers that make that attract mode dominate the room. For me, I think this was a miss, but not a deal breaker.
-Decisions around button layout. I... like you, share the opinion that I would have much rather seen them stick to the traditional 4 button spread. This is a mini Big Red. If people really wanted to hack this and put CPS games on it, they probably could have just bought a different product, and done it cheaper. I do however get why Unico did it this way. Even putting it in the buyers subconscious that they could one day convert this to a multi-cade that would play CPS fighting games makes that $450 price point seem a heck of a lot more justifiable and a strong selling point. While I don't agree with that decision, I can't fault them for this. Again... not a deal breaker for me, just an esthetic miss for me personally.
-Controller components. This is where it all falls apart for me. Quality stick/button components aren't "break the bank" financial calls for these companies. I have no idea how many units they are producing... but this is something they could have purchased in bulk and paid maybe $25-30 more for... instead of whatever they went with which seems very chintzy. If they had made the investment... the Arcade aficionados would have creamed in their pants and they would have HAPPILY paid an extra $50-100 more for them. All of the reviews had the same gripes... mushy buttons... too much throw in the stick, stick caps that were too loose... exc, exc. All of them came to the conclusion that they could always replace the parts themselves... but the average guy doesn't want to invest time and money improving something this expensive that they JUST bought... especially for $450. For me, this was the deal breaker.
I'm in for $450 if they did a bunch of little things right. Even if making some of these small adjustments it pushed the price point upwards to $499-549, I could stomach it to not have to fix something that shouldn't need fixing.
Unico might do well in the future to consult CZcamsrs while they are making their designs so that they don't go and manufacture things that their target audience will also gripe about. I imagine most of their input would be inexpensive to free... and the end result would be that their final product would little to no criticism.
Great review! You did well not to watch anyone else's review. It's interesting what some reviewers catch and others don't and vice-versa.
I didn’t talk about them much but I really wish the speakers were elevated to ear level/under marquee. I think they are simple 3W speakers and to your point, something maybe a little punchier would help sell the ambience. They’re definitely not bad by any stretch, but I know what wonders swapping small speakers can do for actual cabs and I’d like to see this get that type of treatment. I suspect we will see someone spruce this up via a mod and possibly even add a passive sub.
Thanks for your additional content. Hands-off opinions from some who seems to be familiar with these products is appreciated.
disappointed we didnt get a real coin door on the stand and if its the real size so i can switch it out for a real one??? besides that the speakers are disappointing too
@@TheHellboy1980 the faux coin door on the is the worst part of the bar top
@@SoulforSale im fine with the stands the bartop part having one too is stupid
Awesome review!! Very thorough. I was hoping to get your point of view on this!
Thanks man, I was glad to get it for a few days to be able give an opinion!
Good review. I pulled the trigger on this cabinet a few days ago and plan to mod it out a bit to my liking. I am such a fan of the samurai showdown games, that I had to get it. I currently have a Dragon's Lair iircade and an Arcade1up Mortal Kombat Legacy cabinet. Nothing with having a little variety in the pack, so I am looking forward to getting this one to round out my growing collection.
Was looking forward to your review, was about to add this to my arcade ultimate legends in my game room..now I'm better off continuing to use that to emulate some of my favorite neo geo titles.
If you have an AtGames Ultimate I’d probably just roll with that. The $500 for this isn’t getting you too much more beyond what you already have. Save that money.
Great video man, very thorough. Was a pleasure to watch.
Thanks man! Definitely going to check everyone else’s out now that I’m finished!
Killer coverage. Nice job!
Thanks man! I finally was able to watch your reviews this morning. Making my rounds to finally see what everyone else has said.
Another great video. Thanks for offering your perspective. Have my pre-order in and looking forward to adding this to the collection. I wish the button layout was original, as it does take away from the visual of the cab as a whole, but I think I'll be happy with whats all here. Now if we can at least get Turf Masters, Blazing Star, and Neo Drift, that would be awesome! Thanks for your dedication to the scene.
Thanks Kevin. I think if you’re already excited for this you’ll be happy once you get it. It seems the Hylo guys are already gearing up to supply a suitable hack and with the full Neo library at hand in this form factor you’ll be in good shape.
@@ScarletSprites yea it looks similar to the ASP in terms of interface so I have no doubt those wizards will have this hacked in no time. Oh and congrats on the full collection as well, very cool!
Thanks for the review. I know as an original hardware collector these machines can be hard to quantify, but I think you’ve done a great job of standing back and assessing it for what it is. For the money in particular, I’m not sure I would go for one, but there’s a markets who will.
I do hope there’s enough sales to drive further development of this kind of product though.
Yeah I think so as well. There are some people who are really hyped for this and I think they will be fine with their purchase. I suspect the modding community will open up as well and you’ll see some clever additions and hacks.
Another great review! Thanks man!
Thanks for taking the time to say so!
Thanks for the info, great review man! I think I like this thing
It's better than I had expected. The largest shortcoming was the controls for me.
I did purchase an iiRcade unit as well. These machines are amazing. Rage of the Dragons runs flawlessly on the machine. I really hope they release more Neo Geo games for it. The speaker quality is next level compared to the other arcade machines out there. I would give it chance if you have been on the fence.
This looks pretty good. I like how they have the 6-button layout, just for anyone who might like it, even though most of the KOF games are just 4 buttons.
Since they can be mapped I suppose it isn’t too big of a deal. My OCD just sees that and wants the traditional Neo arc, but I get that this is better for fighters.
I would play with the scan lines on for nostalgia that's pretty good
Thanks for the great review. I have been on the fence on the MVSX since the beginning and I do agree it’s troubling to pay $450 and still have to potentially swap out the buttons and sticks. I guess I will add another project to the modding pile. Great review as usual. Thank you again.
Thanks Glenn, appreciate the feedback. I think so long as you know what you’re getting you’ll be ok. It’s a solid unit with some correctable shortcomings.
This is a great review. I have been seriously considering getting this. I love countertop units and this seems to meet most of my standards. I hope there's either a legit way to add more games or way to hack it.
Based on what I’ve seen/heard the hack won’t be far behind. Without making promises I would feel conformable saying you’ll see a hack to add games for this shortly after it’s released.
Very good review thank you
Thanks man!
I concur with many comments. To me, that’s the only review that matters when it come to NeoGeo content.
Thanks man, I appreciate the love.
Hi Joe. This bartop has finally become available in the Uk so I had to get one. I managed to install the HyloX and Capcom hacks so now I have the full neo library. I swapped out the buttons for Suzo Happ competitions and the sticks for Sanwas. I soldered the sticks in and added an octagonal gate. I’m really happy with this thing and the more I play it, the more I’m considering selling up all my MvS carts.
Glad to hear that you’ve enjoyed it so much and got the controls swapped out. I really think the latter was my biggest gripe with the unit (it’s been a while though). The octagonal gate is a must imo too, such a cheap little change that makes a world of difference to the right audience. Awesome man!
Excellent review!
Thanks man!
I love your videos and your review was the one I was waiting for (along with MLP's one).
I was about to order one but with all this info, I think I'm going to wait for a price drop or a good hack to buy this. What put me off of this was mostly the hassle of swapping the sticks.
I liked the game selection (then again, as a mexican I can't get enough KOF), but I agree that it needs more variety (like Neo Turf, Pulstar and some Puzzles).
I already have an ASP with the hylo hack and a Neogeo mini with the pads, so that's how I get my Neo fix. I might buy a second ASP and set it up for a much cheaper two player arcade action.
Keep up the good the good work.
A second ASP would be a sweet way to go. I don’t dislike this unit by any stretch but it certainly is a financial investment. I’ve mentioned to a few others that if you’re on the fence I’d wait out a price drop. If it comes down you can reassess and if it doesn’t then you already have your answer.
Yeah, feeling the same about the variety. Don't get me wrong, I love the Neo fighting games, but honestly, I'm surprised they didn't even include Last Resort at the very least; heck, the Mini has that and some other early Neo shmups. Glad you were able to spend some time with this, though! I was one of the many hoping to hear what you thought of it.
I really do like the Neo shooters as well. The hardware is perfectly fine for playing them on to. Thanks for the kind words, glad I could deliver on a brief video for this. I suspect we will see something like the Hylo hack that will take care of the missing games.
Wow ! Great review : )
Thanks Chris!
Great review 👍..I was wondering if the buttons on the one you got have play, like slide back and forth a lot? Thanks for the review Scarlet 🙂
I watched MLP’s video last night and I didn’t hate the buttons the way he did. They are for sure mushy though, which is a bit of a turnoff. I probably disliked the stick as much as he disliked the buttons though.
How are you this good? Jesus!!! Great video dude. Seriously.
Honestly, it was mostly Mimi and her cinematography.
Scarlet Sprites hahaha. I love your dog ❤️
Great review! 👏👏
Thank you!
I just bought one and I would like to know when ( this is my impression) if activating graphic filters Could the Lag input increase? I feel different Reaction switching by the first Filter Option pixel perfect to the others.
Nice Video. I preordered this! I am not sure why some are complaining about this 50 game unit not including certain additional games! Do not be so greedy! What Arcade1up offers more than 12 games? Just add your own games later sheesh!
Although there were 500 other reviews out there, rest assured your review was value-added! Despite you not looking into SS3 floor scrolling during a jump and Terry’s garou stage round 3 emulation.
I’m disappointed in them for not using connectors for the sticks.
Man, the video was becoming so long as it was and then looking at a list of all the nuances and where to wedge them...just had to mainstream it a little. It’s probably clear I found the control panel most interesting and so I focused on that the most before closing.
Good lord, I had "that friend" over last week. He was jerking on the mvs joystick and throwing his weight into it for some bizarre reason. Obviously the cabinet was fine but holy shit that was the first time I have had anyone go nuts on my arcade stuff.
Yeah I’m probably going to say something at this point, lol. I’ve worked too damn hard on the stuff I have to have someone destroy it. It doesn’t belong to some faceless operator, it’s mine! Chill out.
@@ScarletSprites SWEEP THE LEG! He chilled out after I said something but at least he was really into Windjammers 😂😂
How do I play my purchased Steam Games on my PC, thru my At Games Gamer
Pro to my HDMI Television? Thanks for so much for your help!!
Great review man
Thanks man!
Top notch review bro. When I first saw this I knew it really wasn’t for our gameroom. $500 is just too steep. After watching your review, if this was to have a significant price drop in a year or 2 I may take interest in picking one up.
I think that’s a safe approach. I like it a lot more at
Hi Scarlett great review! Love the look of the buttons on your original MVS cab. I want to replicate this, are these IL short barrel with standard colors ? Colors look super bright on video just want to make sure maybe it’s the lighting ? Thanks and great vids as always 👍
They’re IL longstems (PSL-L). I eventually caved and went with the convex ones, they just feel better on Neo. All are normal colors except for green I used lime green. They feel great with the D44X microswitches.
Scarlet Sprites ty sir!
For loose bat tops, if you want an easily removeable fox, wrap a little teflon plumbers tape around the threads and screw the top back on. If you don't intend to remove the joysticks anytime soon, use Blue or Res loctite on them.
Yeah, RetroRalph mentioned he almost added the tape himself but didn’t want to ruin the genuine unaltered experience for everyone else. It is a relatively easy fix but for the purposes of the review I think I wanted to show how it is out of the box. Like you said though, easy fix if someone isn’t going to change the whole stick out.
Nice review 🙂
Thank you 🙂
Thanks for the great review. Just ordered mine off Amazon. Sadly, they are out of stock until mid February.
Hope you enjoy it! A month isn’t the worst I suppose. I’ve been hearing about more people getting them so maybe they’ve run through the first round of stock.
@@ScarletSprites Hopefully the blood is turned on. ;)
Retro Gamer. Great Content🔥🔥🔥
Thanks man!
How does the emulation compare to at games legends cabinet or a Pandora’s box?
Can you comment with the focus attack links to the buttons and joysticks that you would recommend. Thanks!
Would you recommend this MVS unit, or an Arcade stick pro? I could connect the arcade stick pro to a regular HDTV and play, but I do like the design of This mini cabinet
At $110 on Amazon, the ASP is a pretty decent buy imo. You get a pretty good stick overall and the ability to play some decent titles out of the Neo’s lineup. With the Hylo Hack you can add the entire library if you so choose. The stick is easily modded too so if you decide you want to fool around in the future you can. Imo there’s more bang for the buck with the ASP.
Great video! Judging by your review and others, it seems like this thing's build quality is closer to the stuff that Rec Room Masters makes rather Arcade 1Up. Super solid looking build. And like you, I am disappointed by the price and the goofy 6 button layout. If this thing was closer to $300 I would be all over it.
That’s really it in a nutshell. If it were
I was wondering if you could map some macros to the two additional buttons. It'd come in handy for the fighting games that utilize multiple button inputs like mapping A+B together to one button for example. That would certainly justify the extra buttons. But it appears that you can't from the looks of it. I'd like to see them incorporate that feature in a future firmware update since this thing allows for it.
Also, thanks for going over the internals. I saw other reviews mention they weren't allowed to do so. All I would really have to change with this are the springs, and the gates.
Yeah, we weren’t allowed to show the insides (I got that call after I had filmed some of it already). I didn’t think sharing the sticks and buttons was too much in violation of that.
Swapping the spring and gate is definitely the easiest way to go so you don’t have to desolder the connectors.
Nice vid. I think this unit looks really good as far as the Home Arcade market goes. The arcade1ups with lit marquees go for $400 minimum and tend to have 2 to 5 games, so for this unit to have 50 and look to have a similar build quality or better (definitely better monitor and filter options), i think it's great. I also greatly prefer the convertible bartop to 3/4 scale design as opposed to the small riser/large cab sizing design on an Arcade1up.
The toughest aspect of a sell for me is their own ASP, as that is obviously cheaper and I feel the stock controls are solid for the most part. Im going to keep an eye on this product though. Im very interested to see if the company sends out additional games as updates, or if the community decides to add some things. I'm actually pretty partial to the Legends Ultimate arcade cab from Atgames for the ease of adding games and the overall solid controls.
I would almost bet my savings that this will have the Hylo hack or a variation of it shortly after release. I do agree that I think the controls on the ASP are actually better than what was placed on this unit.
I love mine!!
How is the control deck material? Any chance the art will rub off with use?
Seemed ok from what I recall. Didn't seem as cheap as other bar tops I've played on.
Nice attention to detail! And you focused heavily on the controls which a lot of reviewers tend not to.
It’s admittedly something that I’m passionate and maybe even anal about. I probably sacrificed some other things because I wanted to spend a decent amount of time on that but didn’t want the video to drag on forever: Glad it was helpful.
@@ScarletSprites Well you nailed it. What does AVGN say is the most important thing about a video game? Being able to play the effin thing! That's why things like controller quality and input lag are basically the most important aspect of any emulation device.
Best review I've seen! Definitely interesting, but not at that point and would be more attractive with the full library.
Thanks man! I suspect you’ll see the full library on here unofficially once released into the wild. It seems the Hylo hack is very close.
I have the arcade stick, is this worth getting or is the stick good enough? (will Hylo hack soon enough)
Totally depends on you and what you want out of it. That's such a personal choice based on needs and finances that I don't think anyone can make that decision but you.
great review, love that you showed the buttons and joysticks too. How would you say the stick compares to the Neogeo arcade stick pro? I found the sticks in that one a bit loose and a lot of throw compared to sanwa.
The MVSX feels a lot looser than the ASP. I’d argue the ASP’s stock stick is probably perfectly fine for a lot of people who aren’t super picky. The MVSX needs a different spring or replaced altogether imo.
@@ScarletSprites Oh no, I guess I'm one of the picky ones because I felt that the stick was pretty bad in the ASP. Too bad switching them out looked like it took some work for the MVSX
Btw, how were the buttons compared to the ASP? thanks for replying
I liked the ASP better for the buttons as well. These are just a little more lifeless imo. If you already disliked what the ASP brought you’re not going to like this, lol.
@@ScarletSprites damn, that's unfortunate. Thanks for the info. We'll see if I mod this. The Marquee looks really cool and I love fighting games
I don't even have to watch the video before commenting. Yay or nay I know SS will give a good review. That being said I look at this as a modders project. Albeit a bit expensive. But they should be an appreciating asset, just like the NeoGeoX.
I would suggest some DIY that probably isn’t surprising.
Nice review. I'm currently building a 3/4 scale Big Red with real MVS hardware and coin door so I'm skipping the MVSX for right now.
Sounds like a great project to me!
Please help me fix any problems this has like you did with ngasp stick and buttons video you did.
I probably won’t be getting one back to do any mod videos with unfortunately. I’d love to do those but not at the cost of the $449 I’d have to spend, lol.
What version of SSVS are they using, MVS, AES fixed, or AES unfixed?
That’s actually a decent question, I’ve never thought to look at that on either the ASP or MVSX. You can switch between AES/MVS mode on MVSX so I’m guessing you have the unfixed version running.
@@ScarletSprites The ASP is using the fixes AES version. The Samsho collection is using the unfixed version which is different from the MVS version. Likewise the ps4 version of SSVS is using the MVS version. The differences are seen in the finishing moves.
I am surprise there were Neo Geo arcades at Mcdonald. Heh, I never knew that........
It seems it was hit or miss. I really don’t recall seeing them ever but people in the livestream last weekend said they did. It’s a cool little known about part of SNK history.
Completely off topic question? I just bought the US version of King of Fighters 95 for the AES with original box and manual all in good condition considering the age. I paid 150 + tax. Did I pay too much or was this a good deal?
It’s probably not too much nor a good deal. I’ve seen it go for as cheap as $100 on a forum. The eBay prices seem to hover around $120-$150. You didn’t over pay really though and if it was in good shape, it may be worth it just to lock it up.
@@ScarletSprites Awesome! So at the very least it was not a rip off. That is good to know. I now have King of fighters 95-2000. I am trying to go for a full set, but its going to take a few years as King of fighters 2001-2003 are a bit up there in price and I really cant justify the expense this year with everything happening.
Got mine today. Gutted. The back panel is smashed in and the power and usb is bent. There is no protective film on the screen or control deck either. There were marks on them too. I get the feeling it was a demo unit or something.
I was so excited and now I feel totally burned. Hope Unico have good customer service.
That’s crazy. The review unit was double boxed and in pretty decent shape, hard to imagine anything smashing it the way it was being shipped unless both boxes somehow were punctured. Hopefully at the very least they could get you a new back panel to swap out.
Random question: I remember Scarlet Sprites mentioning red coin door LEDs in a few videos and I wanted to know where I could find 'em. If anybody knows, I really appreciate it. Thanks.
Yorkim T10s. You may need to watch the voltage as different cabs use different bulb types. In general those will work for a lot of machines though.
@@ScarletSprites It's for an MVS2-4 so it should be ok. Thanks for the info and keep up your amazing content!
This looks ok.
with some mods like replacing the stick and buttons. should be alright.
This is demo unit. it will prob be a bit better new.
Plus it will most likely be able to get hacked. Wonder what the specs are. hopefully similar to a pi3 so i can at least put cps2 on also.
I guess you could build one for a bit more of the cost of this that could be better. Kinda time consuming thou.
But this is official and should be good enough. Seems to pack in the demanding games. I can see more games added with a update.
I enjoy the other games also a bit more. But a good match of king of fighters is always a joy. So many fighters.
GOtta play metal slug at any cost. One of the best games.
Great review. What do you think if Savage reign? I think it's quite underrated..
That’s why I showed it in the video. Don’t forget about this one guys, lol.
@@ScarletSprites saw that! That's why i spoke of it! 😁😁
It looks like one of the main games to get really pumped for
I may need to still get this 😈🤓
You could definitely do worse. I’d personally let the dust settle until 2021 and see if the price drops down at all. At
Awesome review!. Did they let you open it ?, they didn't let ETA Prime or Retro Ralph do that.
They asked that we not show the insides, essentially a teardown video. I don’t think looking at the undersides of the buttons or stick though qualifies as a teardown. I think the concern was more about taking the entire thing apart and potentially damaging it and showing off the SBC.
I was waiting to hear you opinion on this. I think this is a good way for a casual neo geo fan to step into the 3/4 scale arcade scene. I am glad the screen looks good. The emulation is scaled properly. There seems to be very low latency which is good. I remember the ps2 metal slug anthology on ps4 lol. I don’t mind the bartop. I don’t have a lot of space for a real cab so this is perfect. The only complaint I see is the button layout and lack of game variety. I am not a big neo geo fighting game fan. I do like metal slug and the shmups as well. Puzzle Bobble/bust-a-move also wouldn’t hurt on here. I know the button layout is catering to the hacking scene. If it only had the traditional layout then they would have complained. This seems way better than arcade1up for the price with 50 total games
I feel like the button layout was less about hacking and more about stepping into the modern. The traditional button layout would have been prefered but its 2020.
Unfortunately I think getting those puzzle games would have meant licensing with another party other than SNK, most likely why they’re not here. That’s what is more “puzzling” about not including the other games that SNK does own. Hopefully we see additional addon packs. Either way though, I suspect you’ll have the games you want via a hack if you’re so inclined.
nice review, i still prefer original MVS/AES hardware or retroarch.
retroarch nowdays is amazing for this kind of emulation thou, it can have even less input lag than original hardware and with mega bezel shader some amazing scanline shaders.
Yeah original hardware is always going to win out for me as well. I was overall pretty pleased with this from a 3/4 arcade cabinet standpoint though and appreciated the build quality.
The real question is not the lag but 1. Can you switch between aes and mvs mode and 2. Do you have access to cheat menu and soft dip changes like more lives
Yes, there is a toggle for AES/MVS modes in the settings. There is nothing for your traditional dip settings though. Some games have a “Violence” option that can be turned on or off but that’s as close as you get.
@@ScarletSprites thanks for the answer
legends ultimate review next!
If someone wants to send it over, absolutely.
No one:
McDonald looking at you while you're playing King Of Fighters with you're friends:
Pretty much that.
@@ScarletSprites now all I can imagine is Ronald McDonald looking down at you when you can't defeat Geese in Fatal Fury
Great video,saludos,,,Mundo Makina ,,,,
Thanks!
So the emulation and build quality does impress me, the controls seem terrible though, I think those mushy buttons could also add a few frames of lag from your rough test, I agree that quality controls are what makes the most difference at the end of the day, if the input lag isn't terrible ofc. Still at 500$ for you guys and more for us Europeans I don't really know who could be interested, but I'm mostly pleasantly surprised. Thanks for the review !
A price drop to $399 in a few months and the unveiling of hacks (such as the Hylo or others) to add more games and I think this starts to become interesting. As it stands it’s a bit of a tough sell to all but the hardcore who likely may already have Neo options.
I'm very happy I didn't waste my money. The ASP is just right for my tastes.
I like the stick and buttons on the ASP better than the bartop.
@@ScarletSprites Firing up my childhood arcade obsession, Art of Fighting, on my projector screen and having Ryo and Garcia in life size pixel form on my 100" screen thanks to my ASP is all I could ask for (and a little Hylo hack to boot).
Dreams do come true.
Looks like a good alternative for people who want to get into Neo Geo but don't want to deal with emulator boxes, modding, building etc. Not for me though. Great video!
Agreed, that’s probably a good market to think about. It’s definitely a nice looking piece of hardware that would look good powered up and running on a table or bar in a game room.
I agree with you on the game lineup. Sure , you're getting 50 games but not much variety
I have a widebody bartop mame cab with a 20 inch screen. This feels like a step down, size wise, which I would not expect for its price...
That’s probably a fair assessment from a size standpoint. The units with licensed games are almost always going to cost more due to the added costs of legally licensing everything.
I want this. Love the games included. But I'm apprehensive because many reviewers are straight up trashing the button performance. Is it really that bad?. Many have called the buttons "loose" & "wobbly"... even saying it ruined the experience. I trust your opinion here so can you please elaborate on button performance?
The buttons are ok. They’re definitely not premium arcade quality but as I showed in the video, they can be easily swapped. Buttons are not generally expensive. The stick on the other hand? That’s what I felt was bad. It’s too loose and has too long of a throw. The buttons are my least concern of the two.
Great review mate
Too much for me $700
Yeah that’s really the thing. It’s not an impulse buy by any stretch. You’re all in when you order this thing.
They should have added a few more inches to the button board. The videos I have seen with two people playing it's way to small for two adults
A wider control panel may have allowed for the traditional Neo Geo button arc layout as well.
Hi Scarlet. Another fun review by you bro. It's really a cool looking piece and great for anyone to endeavor into the Neo-Geo. I personally would buy an actual Neo-Geo unit instead. But it's a great alternative nonetheless. 8^)
I posted this up on the Neo-Geo thread on Atariage.com for you bro. It's on post #24,041 for you to view. Thank you as always Scarlet. Keep up the great work you always offer to the community. 8^)
Anthony..
Yeah, definitely cool for people who don’t want to go full on retro/original hardware but still want some Neo in their lives.
I've preordered it but the difficulty of modding it (Madlittlepixel made a comment and show of the interior, telling that it was a tight space to put IL buttons) and what you've said about the soldering in the joysticks to change them into IL stuff harder makes me a little uneasy and disappointed.
I saw his video. You don’t have to take the entire thing apart to swap parts. There are four screws in the front that go into the control panel and it’s easily lifted right off. Buttons swaps are easy if using Sanwa/Seimitsu but short stem iL/Happs should also fit easily. The real chore is the soldered connections to the stick. It’s more of a pain than the ASP.
6 button and the coin led display deal breaker for me 🤣 wish led csn just display credits instead of game # selected
The controls were more of my issue. The LED display, while meaningless, isn’t really a pro or a con for me. I guess there may have been difficulty tying it to in-game credits and so they opted for the next best thing.
Nice review. Aren't the Sengoku games beat 'em ups?
I guess I always kind of separate “Beat em Ups” and “Hack & Slash” although the latter is just a derivative of the other. I think of Burning Fight, Mutation Nation, and Robo Army as the “real” Beat em Ups but you could easily argue it either way.
@@ScarletSprites Yeah fair enough. I'd lump things like Golden Axe in with beat 'em ups but there's no rules here :)
Just us nerds who would even have the debate. “Well, ackshully...” 🤓
Hi, I have one question...
The pixel scaling and the pixel scan line options, are good looking in comparison with a home MVS in a CRT TV?
I don't know if I should buy a MVS, or this MVSX. I like the arcade cabinet, a lot ... but everyone talk bad about LCD screens in these games...
Beware the Charlie Sheens in your friends circle LMFAO
It’s probably the most important piece of the video that is getting wildly overlooked.
Scarlet Sprites well it is very much appreciated that you included that in there! I have a couple friends of my own that fit that description 🤣
Yeah I have a arcade 1up countercade that my kid just jams on the damn stick. I could only imagine this with all the fighting games lol
👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Linda!
Comment for the almighty algorithm!
Fine by me, I’ll allow it.
@@ScarletSprites Appreciate it! Good review, man!
They are suppose to auction this off? Console kits signature lowered the value
If it were mine I’d take rubbing alcohol and remove everyone’s signature. But that’s just me.
Scarlet Sprites amen to that
🎶🎶NEO GEO NEO GEO NEO GEO 🎶🎶 all I can think of...
It’s in my head more than you’d probably care to know.
MVSX is far better than arcade1up. The legend lives on! #MVSX
The V.1 may not be "Volume 1" but "Version.1"
You typically wouldn’t see that for a grouping though, especially since none of these games are going to change. They’ve been in their final form for decades now.