Klonoa Phantasy Reverie Series -Door to Phantomile Nintendo Switch vs Wii vs PS1 Graphics Comparison
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- Klonoa Phantasy Reverie Series -Door to Phantomile Nintendo Switch vs Wii vs PS1 Graphics Comparison
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The original FMV opening/scenes were and still fantastic with an unique charm, nothing can replace them. Anyway, the new remaster do justice to the old Psone 3d. It gives a new life.
I always love this game and licence since 1997.
the original has way more attention and care put into the physics, camera angles, and lighting. it feels much more cinematic and theatrical. the Wii and Switch just looks like your watching an in-game scene instead of a full-blown FMV (full motion video)
The PS1 original and Reverie versions have less enjoyable game play due to the 'grass hopper'/high jumping physics. It just feels less intuitive and awkward to play, compared to teenage Klonoa in Wii version which feels a lot better strictly in terms of jumping. Plus the english voice acting IN the Wii version was superb. I couldn't help but feel irritated and left feeling cold from the JPN voice acting in Reverie.
Overall, Reverie 'looks' better, but the awkward jumping mechanics and lousy JPN voice acting break the experience for me. Namco should just patch it with an optional teenage Klonoa and optional Wii English Voice acting.
@@NeonPizza80s When you say Japanese voice acting, are you referring an actual Japanese dub or do you mean the Phantomile language that was in the original and 2?
The original for me feels more expressive compare to the others.
Agreed
@@sergiomendoza5165 noice
Agreed very much so. It has the most charm by far.
@@switchnx yeeee
can't more agree, 100%
For me, the original charm of the PS1 Door to Phantomile will never be fully recaptured. But at least Klonoa Phantasy Reverie Series does Klonoa more justice than the Wii remake did.
Honestly the new remake is underwhelming, its really just the wii remake of the original klonoa door of phantomile except the style closely resembles the original ps1 release
The original will always be the best; I wish this series to succeed on ps5, xbox series x and switch, so us loyal fans can get the much deserved klonoa 3
@@lol-ivan7500 Same thoughts. They could've just used a program to upgrade the PS1 cutscenes and it would've added a lot of charm to the game. A fan already did this and it looked great. Seeing how the switch is a copy of the Wii version with a fresh coat of paint, all of us who have seen the Wii ending know what's coming and it's not nearly as impactful as the PS1 version.
Never played this, but I’m only 1 minute in and can already see why the ps1 version has the edge here… it was a cgi cutscene… there are so much details missing in the other versions. I guess the budget was too low maybe? But come on, I think this game deserves cutscenes… the in game cutscenes look cheap in comparison
Dude, it's the exact same fucking shit... but with a more accurate design lol
"Did somebody mention the Door to Phantomile?"
So the new one is just a remaster of the Wii game?
"And I'm Huepow"
I have no idea what review of this game I watched from so long ago was called but that one line has stuck with me for god knows how long.
Literally this week I was walking with my friend and made the reference still not knowing the game it was from.
Only just today did Steam show the new remake in my queue did I finally have an answer to a question I never really took the effort to figure out.
I don't know the feeling this event has given me, but I believe it's a positive one.
Hmm. Maybe one of caddicarus' reviews? And yeah, he did two reviews for the original ps1 game
Ok, so I don't outright hate any of the versions of the game. I really enjoy the dream-like CG cutscenes from the original, but I think I prefer Klonoa's outfit from the Wii version. As far as his proportions/body size/eyes, I like them both equally. It would have been nice to have an option of which outfit you want to play with. But since you are forced into the OG costume, it would have been nice to see the original cutscenes return with some upscaling and remastering work. I think the game releases tomorrow, so it will be cool to see what features we get in the final product
Looking at this, I can tell Phantasy's cutscenes are about 1 to 1 to the Wii Remake. This isn't a bad thing since Klonoa actually looks like how he does from the original. And tbh, playing a game that costs more than $300 on the PS1... it's nice to actually have it on the current gen consoles with it remade. I personally grew up with Klonoa 2, and holy fuck I love the updated graphics. Again, that game's cutscenes are 1 to 1 from the PS2 which I'm personally fine with. You don't really need to overhaul the cutscenes for that game. Love this video tho, thanks for the effort you put into it
Klonoa 2 was a masterpiece that most people should have played but never gotten to.
As much as I appreciate the remakes, the original Door to Phantomile is still the best. I just felt it's simpler approach had the biggest emotional impact. Plus the FMV cutscenes really drove home the beauty and darkness of it's story far better than the in-game ones ever could. Not to mention there were so many little details that I missed in the remakes.
The Klonoa Design on Switch is more accurate than on Wii, though not quite reaching the PS1 design. The colors on the Switch are too bright compared to the Wii version during Gameplay, and the blurring on the Wii version makes things look better overall compared to the Switch version. The PS1 version has the most charm though.
I agree with you about the blur. I don't know why blurring gets such a bad reputation on modern consoles (it was one of my few regrets about the Wind Waker remake, for example). It emphasizes the distance, and for games with a "simplistic" style like Klonoa, gives a little "I don't know" that I miss on the Switch. I don't might the colors or the style of "Reverie", though, but one might say you could achieve something similar by tweaking your TV with the Wii. Anyway, still a nice gesture to have released that game!
Klonoa is a cute series, I hope the game does well.
The outfit for the Wii version will always be my favorite outfit for Klonoa, with the blue outfit from 2 being well...2nd.
I understand why they probably went back to the old PS1 design in the Switch release since he looks younger than he does in Klonoa 2. But still, I still want that outfit from the Wii version. Give me DLC where I can switch to that outfit (in 2 even)
I first experienced Klonoa series through the Wii remake, but afterwards I looked into the series as a whole and really prefer the original.
The CGI cutscenes have so much more care put into them, to say nothing of the animation quality and details.
But Klonoa's design... the original is cuter, yes, but everything about it also has a slightly unsettling, whimsical, surreal feel to it. His large yellow eyes with the slitted pupils. the choice to have greater contrasts with light and shadow. The choice to have that dream-like haze to the image. All of it feels sort of otherworldly.
The wii's redesign is clearly supposed to resemble a Sonic character and probably appeal to a wider audience.
I'm still grateful for the wiimake though. without it, I may have never experienced the series at all, and it's likely that we wouldn't have the new remakes either. I'm glad that they're at least trying to make it more faithful to the original though.
Let’s be honest, they were never going to recapture the charm of the original version. That one had a style that was uniquely of its time that you can’t really replicate.
They could if they would have wanted to, upscale the CGI cutscenes and don't make it like Klonoa's ears look like they are coming out of his brain!
That’s why I hate seeing fans of game talking about a remake. They’ll never be happy unless they’re just playing the original on the original hardware
@@gishathosaurus6828 and the in game cutscenes?
@@PoliMaster64 The only nitpick i have is. I wish they didnt have Klonoa randomly run when you look up or down to aim, its not like the game uses 3D controls to begin with so why bother having that?. But outside that i think the remake is alright
Pretty decent. I hope the PC version gets a mod where you can turn the bloom down. That's my only real gripe.
You can turn it off in the settings
@@JuicedLeaf I see that. Actually, it goes beyond bloom. There needs to be some kind of mod to tone down the contrast. It's kinda glowing.
@@evilashxero shading. it needs shading. it's like wind waker, if you put shading the shadows become softer and more "realistic", less cartoon-like.
PSX>Switch>Wii
Cutscenes: Wii > PS1 > Switch
Gameplay: Switch > Wii > PS1
Playability: PS1 > Wii > Switch
I'm really glad puppy-boy Klonoa is back, but the PS1 FMV and "faux 3D" sprites are what really made this game for me.
@notaadamritim Technically his race is "Phantomilian". Lol
Phantasy Reverie Klonoa 1's opening is like a hybrid of the PS1 and Wii. It had PS1 Klonoa and Huepow with the aesthetics and choreography of the Wii version.
Nunca había jugado a este juego hasta hacerlo en Switch y me encanta. Es interesante ver esta comparativa y bueno, es un remake hecho con mucho amor que sale ganando en esta nueva plataforma.
I am getting more feels from the original PS1 version. Classic.
There is a charm to mixing 3D backdrops with 2D sprites. Love the PS1/Saturn era of games developed this way.
The low framerate and motion blur of the old cutscenes give it a very dreamy vibe like it should. The new ones just don't capture that.
I only played the Wii version of the game as a kid and hearing the music from the beginning gives me so much nostalgia. I never beat it tho because I kept having a hard as heck time trying to beat the last level before the final boss I kept getting lost and stuck. I hope when I buy the remaster I can finally beat the game. I recently found out that people want $100 for a used version of the Wii game and I was like shit I hope I still have the Wii version and if I don't I'm disappointed
I miss the ps1's hud, and the PR textures feel flat
I thought the Switch version was a solid port of the Wii version, but the Klonoa models and scripts are closer to the original PS1 version, and shaders have been applied to the models to make them more beautiful, and other details have been worked on.
This makes me want to buy it.
It’s pretty fascinating that the Phantasy Reverie version appears to be a port of the Wii version with graphics/character models more reminiscent of the PS1 version.
I remember when people really hate what the developerstatus did on the wii version.
Only getting the Reverie version for Klonoa 2 which I've never played. I'm glad I still have my original Klonoa 1 for ps1
Now I could see the difference between the Wii and the Switch better, sometimes the lighting stands out better on the Wii because the saturation is not so high
"Hey. Did anybody notice this adorable meter on Klonoa?"
"No?"
"It goes up to eleven."
"What? That doesn't make any sense. Why would it go up to- oh, it does go to eleven. Well... where do we have it set now?"
"Uh...six."
"Hey. I have an idea..."
JEEZUS!
When I first played PRS I had a sneaking suspicion that the Wii version was used as a basis for the PRS version of DtP. This all but confirms my suspicion.
I'll have to say that the ps1 scenes that are fully animated are extremely good and got their own charm, something we don't get anymore these days for none triple A games or low budget ones.
The wii version has by far better character design, every character looks so nice and detailed while their facial expressions are far stronger compared to the switch.
While the switch just uses better hardware to render the scenes in higher Resolution, but i'll have to admit the color pattern and enviroment look really nice.
Wow. Klonoa has his personality back from PS1 original instead of being a dull mudded character in the Wii remake. Also, being colorful again because Wii remake had a bright idea to make everything look dreadful
The Ps1 version was way too bright. The wii version looked better. Also it wasn’t like klonoa was a very interesting character either on ps1. Making speak more doesn’t change that.
@BOUBERT PAQUIN Don't forget, Klonoa 2 doesn't even have an option to keep the cel-shading on...
@BOUBERT PAQUIN Well yeah. Its based on Wii remake, ofc it was unfortunately gonna carry all the problems. Its still better than Wii remake but doesn’t touch original PS1 and I can definitely tell their main focus was on Klonoa 2 considering that remaster looks 10 times better even with cel shadowing being removed
Is the Wii version played with jist the Wii remote with no nunchuck or does it have to be used.
why didnt they reuse the cg cutscenes for switch?
The 2.5D graphics of the original will always have a unique charm to them. The switch remake is absolutely gorgeous though, they did an amazing job. Especially compared to how drowned out the colors look in the Wii version.
Really wish we had a way to tone down the saturation and the bloom.
When I was a kid, I don't even know who Klonoa is.
Just played the Switch demo, and waiting for the delivery of full game.
I heard about a low framerate on the Switch version, but from what I played in the demo it seems "okay".
It's not 60fps but it seems to me running decently. The Switch one seems a perfectly playable version.
Visuals are lovable, no matter if it's old.
Actually it is 60, at least most of the time, with occasional drops.
@@undergroundhiphopfan6335 I think it "could be" 60, but very variable, so the impression you get is something not "so" smooth. However it plays great, no prob.
I am surprised they decided to bring the oversized necklace from the original, I thought it was a bug
Interesting, for me personally, I like the Aesthetics of the PS1 original best, sems to have more charm and something special to it the other 2 versions are lacking. Would have been incredible if they had included the original Version in with the remakes as an option to play thru it as it was originally.
It's so weird, the Switch version is just the Wii game version with the classic/PS1 look and dialogue
Imo the wii graphics were technically amazing for that time, but on the switch version they were a bit lazy, they just added a filter, changed the textures, but kept the same models and animations except for the characters (they did again the whole character for the hero, but they just added edge loops on other characters which is very fast)
So the remaster is basically the Wii remake with the art direction of the original. Good way to split the difference.
Of course the original intro looks better because was made with cgi, just like the Pac-Man World remake, but I think I'm liking the new actual gameplay, wish I could know these series at its time, specially because I grew up with a PSX
The switch version is based on the PS1 version?
It's cool to do these comparisons, but stretching the PS1 version to widescreen is not native. Really should've kept that one to 4:3.
The Switch is definitely an improvement over the Wii version and I like the look of the gameplay best in that version too.
The only issue I have with the Switch version is that the Wii version changed the way the scenes during the cutscenes were shot which, in my opinion, were for the worse (different angles, zooming out, less expressive movement) and sadly the Switch version used the Wii scenes as a base.
You can see this in for example @1:08 or @2:02 how the Switch and Wii version are more zoomed out and less expressive compared to the original.
Cutscene: PS1>Wii>Switch
Gamepaly: Switch>Wii>PS1
It's like watching a Ghibli movie next to 2 images created in stable diffusion, there is no point of comparison in how extremely superior the PS1 version is.
The new animations are clearly based on the wii versions cutscenes but honestly I think it's fine.
I'll never understand why they remade the cinematics from the PS1 version
i’m sorry why is the audio at 4:18 so fire though?
Tbh, I like all versions.
I am glad they fixed the lifeless lack of color of the Wii version in the Reverie version, much better.
The original looks way better but it's because the new version are using in-game models and textures for the cutscene while the old version isn't. It's made to be as cinematic as possible while the in-game graphics are notibly worse/pixelated.
The Wii version is more zoomed in than the Switch but is apparently more detailed. However, the Switch version is HD and looks a lot more crisp. Also the Switch version looks more colorful than the Wii version. Might be done on purpose to make the game feel more vibrant.
As much as I prefer the expressive Sprites and CG cutscenes of the original. I have to admit the environments pop more in the new version, there's just more continuity in the backgrounds that make the levels feel vast.
I will say that Phantasy Reverie looks better overall than the PS1 version, but the original FMV's looked way better than the cutscenes of this game, especially the last cutscene which just looks kinda silly in Phantasy Reverie compared to the original.
I like more the wii version, have a touch Sonic that it look great to my gusto.
el de wii es superior, como es posible
y lo peor es que debo comprarlo o si no la saga volveré al baúl de los recuerdos
pero si es la misma wea que la switch
I think the Switch version's graphics are very well done, especially compared to the Wii. The Wii version really robbed the look of the game of a lot of its brightly colored charm and warmth, and the Switch leaves that intact while still updating the graphics to a level that's more in line with modern games.
It may have been a sign of gne times. During the 2000s, especially the latter half of the decade, so many games looked kinda drab with very muted color palettes. It's kinda silly to go for that in a series like Klonoa for which its cuteness is such a big part of the series' character.
to be honest the remakes were good but still they lack the charm of the original, I think instead of going full 3D they should have updated the sprites, and go full wayforward with the animations, also I don't get why they still try to go for the updated design of Klonoa, witch looks like a Sonic character tbh, still it's a good step on the right direction
Why do they insist on making his head so much smaller in the remakes?
Why would you not just correct the ps1's aspect ratio when editing the video? Seems kinda important if you were wanting to do a proper comparison. 🤷♂
Ps1 is very original I still love it, for Wiii is like 3d PC game graphic and Nintendo switch like a remake PS1 not bad I'll say
This, Medievil, and Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1 have to be the only games that I can think of that have been remade twice.
The Last of us : Hold my beer
Zone of the Enders 2
I always thought the PS1 original is the best when the Wii remake came out.
Now I still think is the best but the Switch ports is better than the Wii remake,its the same game but better so
PS1 > Switch(2022 Port) > Wii
IMO
Played klonoa 2 on Wii it's hard to control with the Wii controller
Klonoa 2 is not on Wii
the blue ball has hands and then it doesn't
Its just me or the wii version looks bettet than the switch?
not exactly in everything because if u look close the new version has improvements like the environments having bounce light now and such, while i like the text boxes of the wii and the changes to his eyes, but i guess in the new version they wanted him to match more his original ps1 look so it's like they married the ps1 and wii version
You’re not bugging. The Wii version looks way better 😕
@@BirdAsBond again it really doesn't it's essentially the same except now they made the colors match more the original as well as the character model of course...while today u may prefer the more drab look of wii, fans didn't really like the route that remake took...but yeah wii isn't "way better" this version clearly ups the colors and contrast, effects and lights actually bounce, improved texture quality and yeah just has the og klonoa model look, which all really just comes down to preference
for some reason, the Wii version looks more realistic than the switch. maybe because the color tone and the blur effect
No that’s just the art style they went with for that remake, then they redid it to better match the original PS1 ver for the switch
the Switch try to keep the original concept, but I like more the wii version
I actually like the original PS1 best, it looks a lot better and has more charm to it.
Og looks better tbh.
But why the remake? Make klonoa 3 pls😢😢😢
Original is always the best
the switch version is just a mod from the wii version ._.
Don't know what these developers are thinking. Nothing will beat the original CGI cut scenes unless they try to match the effort. So why not reuse them and improve is it's quality?
When an old psx cutscene is a million times more detailed and smoother than modern console cutscenes
The problem is not the franchise is fucking Nintendo and Bandai Namco
This isnt justice for the franchise this is like a test to see how relevant Klonoa still is and i hope it sells cuz who knows if we ever gonna see Klonoa again.
Ps1 expressiveness and feline face
Wii outfit
Switch graphics
And we got the perfect cutscene
Totally unacceptable for the 1st and 2nd remake. They just put the in-game module into a scene, which is not a real drawn 'Animation'. The real animation in PS1 original version is everly epic and can not be replaced, unless they really make a new animation in real.
I wish they re-made the original opening instead of rendering it in-engine. I also think the Wii models fit better with the switch version. The Ui is also way to big on the switch version. The game went from very original to a NSMB styled Super Mario Sunshine clone.
I think all versions are good but my one and only problem is why Klonoha on PS2 and Wii looks like a fu*kin parody of Sonic.
Kloana looked great in the Wii version
The original is better in cutscenes and feelings but the wii version Klonoa get a better desing (especially the eyes).
The wii look better i think they do that for the switch portable screem to see on the sun
How can they drop the ball this bad? The PSOne version is far superior 😔
Again?? Have had them both on ps one and wii.
Not gonna buy it again for €50
It also comes with Klonoa 2, but not getting it is up to you
While I still love the later versions, I can't help but prefer the original's look where its more like a pseudo-claymation appearance.
I like More wii version
ps1 looks better i mean the art style felt more alive that the latter
Only one reason to buy a Wii
Edit: but ps1 original is cutest than optimised-graphics version
Honestly the switch version looks the blandest of all of them, no? The original has so much personality, the Wii version keeps most of the personality but with largely improved assets. Than the remake just looks like a scaled up version re release with 0 effort of adding some charm back in that will naturally be needed with a project like this.
I don’t get why people are here bashing that Wii remake, but I wish they gave us an option to play that first game with the Wii version’s design of Klonoa. It just felt unnecessary having to do all this for what is just a port of it.
Ps1 cutscenes look the best
there's something charming about the PS1 and Wii versions that the Switch lacks. Bad port imho
Lol. Cutscenes in the original are better made. It was not just my imagination.
For me, I love this PlayStation version, Switch/PC then... The Wii is just laughably bad 🤣
I didn't know this game before, but I think the Wii version looks better than the others
Ps1 version has most emotion