susanna reading about what borderline personality and saying "that's me" and lisa's response being "that's everybody" made me feel better about having bpd for a second lol
In Susana's final voiceover, she says something to the effect of, "Being crazy isn't burying a dark secret; its you or me, amplified." I agree that most people exhibit the signs of BPD. The degrees to which it presents are really the only thing that's different.
Who told you that you have bpd? So you understand that before the age od 18 you cannot diagnose any personality disorder? You understand that you, said in the simplest way possible, cannot experience emotions, don't know what empathy is,..? BPD is no joke...
@@marijanuzdic2083 if you have BD you have it mainly because you Do have empathy, cry for minor things, suffer more than most people do even it's Just for a muddy, old, homeless dog that nobody looks twice at. You have no idea to judge without knowing people.It is possible for a person with BD not to feel empathy only if he or she is numb with his or her own mania.
@@amyhotspot2631 Not true, here's a thing,my mother is a psychologist, since I was 13 I have been reading and studying psychology, besides that now I am a psychology student. Whoever is diagnosed with any type of personality disorder has to be at least 18. People that have been diagnosed with PD(a R E A L psychologist/psychiatrist diagnosed them) are notorious for lack of empathy, being manipulative and lack of emotions. BPD is definitely specific but if you do have empathy and specific emotions but most other symptoms of BPD you are BIPOLAR. I am literally talking facts from approved books and years of experience. Most of my family have some type of mental disorder so yeah I kinda feel like I know a bit more than just someone who did online test to see if they have a real mental disorder. Please dont spread false information.
It’s funny how Lisa tosses Janet’s file on the floor and she just casually collects it like it was nothing. So Cynthia was sent there for being a lesbian? Wow. Comes to show how far we’ve come as a nation.
In a deleted scene Polly is giving Suzanna a tour of the ward where she tells her what everyone did to get in there. She points to Cynthia and said “She’s in here because her parents don’t like the way she dresses.” Really sad and interesting.
@@MIHELISHAR Sociopaths are prone to mood swings. I've heard the two disorders are often mistaken for each other, especially in women. They can have sudden bursts of intense emotion that don't last long and end as suddenly as they begin.
Roughly it was something about how she couldn't keep her dog because he had burns/scars or something. so she poured gasoline on herself and lit a match to prove so she could keep her dog. All I remember was it was really sad hearing that part.
“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams..
its a big industry..everyone makes money off of stigmatising people.the stigma alone can make people worse...(if you dont have a problem,they dont have a job)
But that being said are you saying there shouldn't be mental health representation in film and tv I think people forget this is based off a autobiography by Suzanna based on her journals she kept why in the facility Given that information on different disorders are always changing you shouldn't bash a movie that was made in the1990’s but set in the mid-’60s that's based of a book based on notes from a girl who was going through a huge traumatic life-changing moment and while on drugs I think they did a great job showing how it does feel like it's you and your fellow patient's against the system that by diagnosing you into any disorder alienates you from ’normal’ society people look at you differently treat you differently or like her parents get annoyed that they have a ’defective’ kid who is gonna mess up the holiday by not get better in a short period of time
Amiracle Chrisbreezy there is such thing as co morbid disorders and most people suffering from OCD usually suffer from other disorders as well. I can vouch for that
Hmm... true. I was just going by what I've heard, since I haven't read the book. Personally, I don't think Lisa (movie, obviously) was a sociopath, I think she just liked the label because it made her seem "badass" or "in charge" or whathaveyou. It's also likely that they just thought she was mentally ill because she was very... out there, and with this being the 1960's, was unheard of for a woman. o.o
No- Polly set herself on fire, Lisa torch was just another junkie sociopath but Lisa didn't accept that they where equally as bad and Lisa torch was able to leave
Maybe the real Lisa, but her character as played by Angelina Jolie seems to be a sociopath alright. Lack of empathy, a disregard for laws and having several short but intense friendships (before Susanna she was friends with the girl who lived in her room) A bipolar personality often has a state in which they are depressive and in which they are indifferent and show apathy. This later is such a contrast to the manic state it's like two totally different personalities. Hence "bipolar".
They could actually be a psychologist though. I wonder why ppl are so adverse to lay ppl discussing disorders how else can we learn about ourselves. Ppl want it to be some esoteric discipline
I used to think I was a sociopath or a narcissist because I had a very hard time caring about others and I realized I didn't love my family or friends. At this point, I've realized I do love my cat and dog, and that I've always felt very bad about interrupting people or talking over them, though I still believe I'm on the steep end of the spectrum.
@ThatOne Yes. That's actually interesting because earlier in the movie, Georgina told Susanna that Polly set herself on fire to get rid of a rash that her puppy was giving her, so she could keep it. But then she revealed afterwards that she's a pathological liar, and in this scene, we realize that she was indeed lying about Polly and we can see what really happened to her.
lol, am playing Cynthia for school theater class :p sucks that I only have like 4 lines though xD I got chosen immediately just cause I could provide a definition for sociopathy, our teacher is a legend lmao
seriously? She pushed daisy to suicide, humiliated daisy and the other girls, liked controlling the girls, Physically and verbally abused the others to the point where they all feared her, was super charismatic, disregard for laws, and steals money out of a dead person's pockets? If that doesnt scream sociopath I really dont know what does.... But then everyone in the comment section is a fucking psychologist.
@@bugeye8749 its a fair question. As long as you practice safe sex and dont play games with peoples emotions, whats wrong with it? For example in the movie Susanna has a bf but has sex with the orderly, well at least makes out with him and gives him a bj, a few times. Theyfre friendly but dont really know eachother, arent in a relationship and probably wont see eachother again when she leaves... but in those moments he lifts her spirits and they both get to escape for a while and have fun. As long as theyre both up front thst this isnt serious-whats wrong with it? Who's hurt?
@@merkitten953 oh dear....ok in this case the thing that's wrong is that he is an orderly in a position of power over a patient in a facility. just like how a teacher is not to engage in sexual activities with a student, even an 18 year old senior, or how a superior is not supposed to engage in sexual activities with a subordinant. the power disparity is what makes it wrong. yes both legal adults but she's supposed to be in a place of care and he's supposed to be in a trusted position.
My doctor says I have extreme borderline tendencies, but she can't diagnose it yet because I'm not 18, and often times it's hard to tell whether the mood instabilities and etc are from BPD, or just hormones. She believes that it is more likely that I have multiple personality disorder though. Does anyone know anything about multiple personally disorder that could further extend my knowledge on the subject? Thanks!
@kivancis i always wondered if i had borderline personality 2. it sounds like me a lot, yet i have bi-polar tendencies. want to c this movie real bad but only read the book. read it 2 days ago n looked up some scenes. lisa's portrayal scared me cuz i'm relentlessly mean & nasty 2 when i get way pissed. however i feel really really bad & sick and my conscience eats at me. does this mean i'm borderline sociopath??? i'm soooo confused n scared. like her i also hate feeling inferior.
fck off with your ignorant ass, she’s definitely a sociopath. a lot of bpd and aspd traits can get mixed up because of the impulsiveness, but overall she has more aspd
Movie 'Girll Interrupted': clearly for those 'sociology- sigh-call- oh-gee' 'students' out there.....character 'Lisa' demonstrates ten thousand HIPPA VIOLATIONS....SHAME! SHAME!
In the movie, there was a moment when she attacked Valerie with some racist words but after she had a mental break she ended up apologizing to Valerie and saying she was a pig.
harliette not true. Men have casual sex and they have to do it with someone. Actually many women without a strong sense of self have serial monogamy to find love.
"Cynthia Crowley.....Congratulations"
"Thank You"
Haha that made me laugh
lmaooooo
Lol love it
susanna reading about what borderline personality and saying "that's me" and lisa's response being "that's everybody" made me feel better about having bpd for a second lol
Same
In Susana's final voiceover, she says something to the effect of, "Being crazy isn't burying a dark secret; its you or me, amplified." I agree that most people exhibit the signs of BPD. The degrees to which it presents are really the only thing that's different.
Who told you that you have bpd? So you understand that before the age od 18 you cannot diagnose any personality disorder? You understand that you, said in the simplest way possible, cannot experience emotions, don't know what empathy is,..? BPD is no joke...
@@marijanuzdic2083 if you have BD you have it mainly because you Do have empathy, cry for minor things, suffer more than most people do even it's Just for a muddy, old, homeless dog that nobody looks twice at. You have no idea to judge without knowing people.It is possible for a person with BD not to feel empathy only if he or she is numb with his or her own mania.
@@amyhotspot2631 Not true, here's a thing,my mother is a psychologist, since I was 13 I have been reading and studying psychology, besides that now I am a psychology student. Whoever is diagnosed with any type of personality disorder has to be at least 18. People that have been diagnosed with PD(a R E A L psychologist/psychiatrist diagnosed them) are notorious for lack of empathy, being manipulative and lack of emotions. BPD is definitely specific but if you do have empathy and specific emotions but most other symptoms of BPD you are BIPOLAR. I am literally talking facts from approved books and years of experience. Most of my family have some type of mental disorder so yeah I kinda feel like I know a bit more than just someone who did online test to see if they have a real mental disorder. Please dont spread false information.
I always laugh when Cynthia accepts her paperwork like it's a degree 😂😂😂
I like how lisa holds the file tight when giving it to Georgina coz she slaps her just before this scene & is trying to make up with her
Shes not trying to make up with her, that was intimidation.
@@motjon I see it as both
Lisa wasn't trying to forgive her she sees nothing that she's doing Is wrong
I love the "Congratulation"
It’s hard not to be pessimistic, when your life has been full of hurt with only rare rays of sunshine. Then when he died the sunset.
Angelina played Lisa so well.
That's why she won the Oscar for her role.
It’s funny how Lisa tosses Janet’s file on the floor and she just casually collects it like it was nothing. So Cynthia was sent there for being a lesbian? Wow. Comes to show how far we’ve come as a nation.
Well, yeah...this was supposed to be set in the 60s. What did you expect??
@@renatareibuddysmama2534 I didn’t expect someone to be sent to rehab for their sexuality. Just therapy.
@@AaronSaltzer back in the day you were sent to the nuthouse for just about anything especially women. Ever heard of Christine Collins ?
@@adrianagflores5587 Yep. People were preettty fucking ignorant back then. We still have a long ways to go too.
In a deleted scene Polly is giving Suzanna a tour of the ward where she tells her what everyone did to get in there. She points to Cynthia and said “She’s in here because her parents don’t like the way she dresses.” Really sad and interesting.
I think Lisa might both have been a sociopath and bipolar.
@@MIHELISHAR Sociopaths are prone to mood swings. I've heard the two disorders are often mistaken for each other, especially in women. They can have sudden bursts of intense emotion that don't last long and end as suddenly as they begin.
Writing's the one thing I was ever good at, and I just used the word 'suddenly' twice in the same sentence😣😣😣😣😣😣😣.
@@MIHELISHAR Who yelled at you?
Not uncommon for Antisocial Personality Disorder to be comorbid with Bipolar.
@@sickboy7104 Me
Roughly it was something about how she couldn't keep her dog because he had burns/scars or something. so she poured gasoline on herself and lit a match to prove so she could keep her dog. All I remember was it was really sad hearing that part.
I know this was seven years ago but that wasn't true. The compulsive liar told that story
@@kingbelail 1 year but yeh you can see when she moves her picture she was the sixth victim in someone burning people
@ThatOne Nope, while they're flipping through files you can see a news clipping talking about a fire.
@ThatOne OH i never saw the grade! good point out!
“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams..
Lisa and Susana have the same diagnosis. That always really interests me
No they dont haha susana has borderline and lisa is a sociopath
Lidera that’s what I thought too but at 0:46 you can see that Lisa’s diagnosis is borderline personality disorder!
@@luisasaint71 probably thats just a little clip of someone elses paper
@@luisasaint71 or the directors were just too lazy to make another diagnosis paper lol
They do... but I see Lisa way more as a Narcissit/Antisocial gal. I can see BPD in her, but I feel its kind of a stretch.
its a big industry..everyone makes money off of stigmatising people.the stigma alone can make people worse...(if you dont have a problem,they dont have a job)
Truer words have never been spoken
Ruth Edwards I agree 100%
Ruth Edwards Some people actually have problems...
I never feel there’s a lacking in mental health problems in our world. I’d say they have enough patients.
But that being said are you saying there shouldn't be mental health representation in film and tv
I think people forget this is based off a autobiography by Suzanna based on her journals she kept why in the facility
Given that information on different disorders are always changing you shouldn't bash a movie that was made in the1990’s but set in the mid-’60s that's based of a book based on notes from a girl who was going through a huge traumatic life-changing moment and while on drugs
I think they did a great job showing how it does feel like it's you and your fellow patient's against the system that by diagnosing you into any disorder alienates you from ’normal’ society people look at you differently treat you differently or like her parents get annoyed that they have a ’defective’ kid who is gonna mess up the holiday by not get better in a short period of time
Doesn't Daisy have BPD she cuts herself, has bulimia. Not just OCD.
Amiracle Chrisbreezy there is such thing as co morbid disorders and most people suffering from OCD usually suffer from other disorders as well. I can vouch for that
how did she have OCD? I have OCD and didn't notice it in her at all lol
Maggie thank u
Are you a doctor? No, you’re not. Educate yourself first. Mental illness is more complex than that.
@@Voice7777777 The way she kept her chicken under her bed. Or when she was eating a cupcake and began by picking on the sprinkles. maybe?
2:35 That fucking smile gets me everytime
Same...
I love the music so much
Hmm... true. I was just going by what I've heard, since I haven't read the book. Personally, I don't think Lisa (movie, obviously) was a sociopath, I think she just liked the label because it made her seem "badass" or "in charge" or whathaveyou.
It's also likely that they just thought she was mentally ill because she was very... out there, and with this being the 1960's, was unheard of for a woman. o.o
you did see her pushing daisy's buttons and lack of reaction to her death, right? that was a display of her sociopathic traits right there.
uhm no... she’s def a sociopath, and some. She may have seemed “badass” to you but that’s just how some people might perceive her
Well if you know what sociopathy was considered in the 90s, it's pretty much anyone who goes against the status quo.
The criteria for diagnosing has much to do with whoever is too "out there", so "out there" you can't function right
Mmm she def had a personality disorder- most likely NPD or ASPD
To me this was a very human thing to do ,you always want to know what a Doctor says about you that he doesn't say to you,all that writing.....
I really related to this movie as a kid and when I got my bpd diagnosis last year it made me go “oh”
No- Polly set herself on fire, Lisa torch was just another junkie sociopath but Lisa didn't accept that they where equally as bad and Lisa torch was able to leave
?
Maybe the real Lisa, but her character as played by Angelina Jolie seems to be a sociopath alright. Lack of empathy, a disregard for laws and having several short but intense friendships (before Susanna she was friends with the girl who lived in her room)
A bipolar personality often has a state in which they are depressive and in which they are indifferent and show apathy. This later is such a contrast to the manic state it's like two totally different personalities. Hence "bipolar".
McLarenMercedes Internet Psychologists need to bite the fucking dust already
They could actually be a psychologist though. I wonder why ppl are so adverse to lay ppl discussing disorders how else can we learn about ourselves. Ppl want it to be some esoteric discipline
I used to think I was a sociopath or a narcissist because I had a very hard time caring about others and I realized I didn't love my family or friends. At this point, I've realized I do love my cat and dog, and that I've always felt very bad about interrupting people or talking over them, though I still believe I'm on the steep end of the spectrum.
@tchermit the song playing in the background is 'File Reading' by Mychael Danna, it's on the soundtrack of the movie ;)
I wish they put the second lisa into the movie
Dear,
the song is called pensees by Alix
(the magic of the android phone and a program called shazam- in case you are wondering how i know :P )
cheers
What was wrong with the girl Lisa called Torch? I mean, ya she was in a fire, but why is she in a mental hospital then????
'Cause the trauma sent her into arrested development.
In the book, so the real Polly, was schizofrenic, that's why she really set herself on fire
Because she did it to herself
@ThatOne Yes. That's actually interesting because earlier in the movie, Georgina told Susanna that Polly set herself on fire to get rid of a rash that her puppy was giving her, so she could keep it. But then she revealed afterwards that she's a pathological liar, and in this scene, we realize that she was indeed lying about Polly and we can see what really happened to her.
I wish I was at least intelligent… but my therapist kept getting angry at how slow I was. Said Special Education would have been good for me.
I always thought Lisa was Bipolar
+LittleGoof 1 ...that's not how Bipolar works
I wonder why they didnt specifically list all the dsm criteria here, was it before it was more fully defined?
this has to before because the symptoms now are worded differently
lol, am playing Cynthia for school theater class :p sucks that I only have like 4 lines though xD I got chosen immediately just cause I could provide a definition for sociopathy, our teacher is a legend lmao
I never actually saw Lisa as a sociopath
seriously? She pushed daisy to suicide, humiliated daisy and the other girls, liked controlling the girls, Physically and verbally abused the others to the point where they all feared her, was super charismatic, disregard for laws, and steals money out of a dead person's pockets? If that doesnt scream sociopath I really dont know what does.... But then everyone in the comment section is a fucking psychologist.
@SkylarxScandalous 60's right? look at whoopi's afro!
Whats wrong with casual sex?
Depends on who you have it with. 😊
Nope, nothing wrong, with everybody
If u have to ask...
@@bugeye8749 its a fair question. As long as you practice safe sex and dont play games with peoples emotions, whats wrong with it? For example in the movie Susanna has a bf but has sex with the orderly, well at least makes out with him and gives him a bj, a few times. Theyfre friendly but dont really know eachother, arent in a relationship and probably wont see eachother again when she leaves... but in those moments he lifts her spirits and they both get to escape for a while and have fun. As long as theyre both up front thst this isnt serious-whats wrong with it? Who's hurt?
@@merkitten953 oh dear....ok in this case the thing that's wrong is that he is an orderly in a position of power over a patient in a facility. just like how a teacher is not to engage in sexual activities with a student, even an 18 year old senior, or how a superior is not supposed to engage in sexual activities with a subordinant. the power disparity is what makes it wrong. yes both legal adults but she's supposed to be in a place of care and he's supposed to be in a trusted position.
when she read her diary
My doctor says I have extreme borderline tendencies, but she can't diagnose it yet because I'm not 18, and often times it's hard to tell whether the mood instabilities and etc are from BPD, or just hormones. She believes that it is more likely that I have multiple personality disorder though. Does anyone know anything about multiple personally disorder that could further extend my knowledge on the subject? Thanks!
kay barker hope you're doing okay x
Multiple personality disorder is an outdated term. They call it Dissociative Identity Disorder or Other Specified Dissociative Disorder.
kay barker So have you found out?
Your probably like everyone else
Human
@kivancis i always wondered if i had borderline personality 2.
it sounds like me a lot, yet i have bi-polar tendencies. want to c this movie real bad but only read the book. read it 2 days ago n looked up some scenes. lisa's portrayal scared me cuz i'm relentlessly mean & nasty 2 when i get way pissed. however i feel really really bad & sick and my conscience eats at me. does this mean i'm borderline sociopath??? i'm soooo confused n scared. like her i also hate feeling inferior.
im not promiscuous.. im nottttt
NPC oh hi mark
whatevaonce12 I'm not promiscuous Im popular!
NPC LISA..YOUR TEARING ME APART!!!
ياساتر المقطع قبل ١٦ سنه
please does anyone know the name of the song playing in the background? please please!
Haya Shaath It’s called “Reading Files” and it’s from the original soundtrack by Mychael Danna!
We are very rare and mostly men
I read the book
Lilly Santiago is the book different or the same?
@@thewallfangirl2980 kinda not the same bc lisa hair in the book was suppose to be dull black hair
do you maybe have this exact song and you could send it to me? i can't get it anywhere else.. :/
would really appreciate it!
btw loove this movie!
pensees by alix. sorry its 12 years late haha
Lisa isn't a sociopath, she was misdiagnosed and was actually bipolar.
Do you even know what sociopath is? She was it for sure.
fck off with your ignorant ass, she’s definitely a sociopath. a lot of bpd and aspd traits can get mixed up because of the impulsiveness, but overall she has more aspd
Eros Subliminals why so hostile. Triggered?
you dont GET bipolar do you? Lisa was pure evil sometimes, that's not bipolar.
@@epichighslowsofhighschoolf3074 you can still be evil and not be a sociopath....
Diagnonsense**
Lisa was bipolar with antisocial personality disorder tendencies.
This is the girl from mad man 😄
Isabel Fornos And GET HIM TO THE GREEK
If that's borderline personality disorder then at least 50% of the population that is between 16 and 40 have borderline personality disorder lol
It was the 60s whatcha expect? Cynthia was basically there for being lesbian
There’s much more to it. And 50% of the population does not have it.
Far beyond anyone comprehends its ignorant.
No you're duke xD
sociopaths @ 1:56
Cheap, wrong, Mother of the Lord was not weak.
if they all were alright no money to dr and nurses
I think I have a borderline personality disorder !
sofia naji I do have it
sofia naji no self diagnosing in here we don’t do that it’s very serious diagnosing
@@thewallfangirl2980 she didn't say she have it though
Diag-nonesense*
Movie 'Girll Interrupted': clearly for those 'sociology- sigh-call- oh-gee' 'students' out there.....character 'Lisa' demonstrates ten thousand HIPPA VIOLATIONS....SHAME! SHAME!
How?
I don’t know if this is true but I remember someone saying that Susanna was racist, does anyone know if this is true or not
In the movie, there was a moment when she attacked Valerie with some racist words but after she had a mental break she ended up apologizing to Valerie and saying she was a pig.
Diagnonsense
I detest how she claims 'casual sex is no big deal. Personifies worthlessness.
harliette not true. Men have casual sex and they have to do it with someone. Actually many women without a strong sense of self have serial monogamy to find love.
harliette Riiiight
#delusion
“Well that’s me” “that’s everybody”