"Are Black Women Sabotaging Themselves on Dating Shows?"

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    With the new hit series on Netflix, The Perfect Match, coming out, it has reminded many of the clear lack of diversity in dating shows primarily when it comes to black women. In this video, we will be discussing the problems among some popular shos like The Bachelor, The Perfect Match, and Too Hot to Handle. This video will also have an interview with a former Bachelor's contestant!
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  • @ToniBryanneTV
    @ToniBryanneTV  Před rokem +96

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    • @hitmakerstudio6405
      @hitmakerstudio6405 Před rokem +2

      Black's we need to Make our own show!
      But if you looking for white a companion I'm sorry for you! Bring back black love again!

    • @RealLivesMatterREELiivesKill
      @RealLivesMatterREELiivesKill Před rokem +1

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    • @cindywa2721
      @cindywa2721 Před rokem +2

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      I'm a straight, Asian woman 😅

    • @celsocosta880
      @celsocosta880 Před rokem +1

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    • @ToniBryanneTV
      @ToniBryanneTV  Před rokem +5

      @@celsocosta880 please don’t give me a compliment if you’re going to choose to follow it up with ignorance. That was very annoying.

  • @audreylisamuranda2881
    @audreylisamuranda2881 Před rokem +944

    As a black woman, why would I embarrass myself by going on a dating show knowing that I’m not wanted based on previous black woman’s experience?

    • @patricblack1
      @patricblack1 Před rokem +26

      Clout maybe?

    • @SaffariRose
      @SaffariRose Před rokem +65

      Publicly never hurts. For the woman selling luxury real estate for example, a tv reference is enough to both sway potential clients who are into that kind of 'celebrity' image as well as advertise herself and her services/business. Thousands, if not millions of people watch these shows.

    • @Lady9T
      @Lady9T Před rokem +70

      I THINK some of these black women might hope that they're not like the other black women, like they're more beautiful because outside the show men are all over them. Or they understand but they believed once the guys get to know them that'll change their minds. And they don't realize that it doesn't matter, they can be a 10 /10, but on these shows they'll usually take a back seat to 7 or 8 out of 10 lighter cast mates.

    • @misguidedpearls7456
      @misguidedpearls7456 Před rokem

      ❤❤❤❤❤

    • @zukhanyemadubane
      @zukhanyemadubane Před rokem +23

      as in like bro I just cringe everytime I see black women on these dating shows because I know they wont get picked like I just get bored sm

  • @jasminerobertson9216
    @jasminerobertson9216 Před rokem +989

    We gotta stop stressing over these shows because 98% of them don’t even end up together. But it is shameful that we get treated like the ugly duckling ,viewed as ghetto or masculine when some of those ww on these shows are the most problematic and loud especially when drunk

    • @ayak6317
      @ayak6317 Před rokem +35

      Like Kariselle yuck what a shank

    • @Jul_ire
      @Jul_ire Před rokem +41

      yesss, I've noticed it so much.. I don't watch that much reality tv but enough to notice that black women are always so classy and elegant, and somehow they still have the hurtful stereotype

    • @t.a.1337
      @t.a.1337 Před rokem

      ​@@ayak6317she's looks like she has diseases

    • @dereknueveuno
      @dereknueveuno Před rokem

      i hate black woman have to make videos and post about this stuff because it comes off as "please pick me!" yall are awesome, be great and let the men that like you come to you. But i get it yall kinda have to for young black girls that never that may watch and not see themselves getting picked. i just hate how it looks like begging to be loved

    • @katgreer6113
      @katgreer6113 Před rokem +53

      @@Jul_ire yup. we could be the most feminine, graceful, and prettiest princesses in the world and they would still call us "masculine" and "ghetto". It never ends girl.

  • @e11esounds
    @e11esounds Před rokem +772

    I’m not a black woman but this pattern has not gone unnoticed for me, and makes me feel really uncomfortable and sad. I can’t imagine how discouraging, offensive and frankly fucked up it would feel to see this time and time again as a woman of colour. Gross.

    • @SweetUareDesi
      @SweetUareDesi Před rokem +7

      Lol scram

    • @SweetUareDesi
      @SweetUareDesi Před rokem +4

      @Brown Kiss empathy, lol ok

    • @MultiDiceman
      @MultiDiceman Před rokem +11

      If they valued the attraction and validation of their own and not seek it outside view white people who they seem to have racial history issues with while simultaneously needed to be valued and accepted into their media would fix that

    • @aprilclover2429
      @aprilclover2429 Před rokem

      @@SweetUareDesi , you give BW a bad name. WW expressed kindness toward us when most of the world views BW as less desirable and you reject her!

    • @katgreer6113
      @katgreer6113 Před rokem +5

      thanks girl...its sad but what can we do...:(

  • @lizwithdavipbiz3580
    @lizwithdavipbiz3580 Před rokem +3007

    My boyfriend is white & when we were watching love is blind. The season with Lauren & Cameron we were both rooting for them. Black women please go where you’re appreciated/ treasured/ respected/ loved ect…

    • @GhoulBunny
      @GhoulBunny Před rokem +259

      Period. I love Lauren and Cameron he treats her like the queen she is 🙈

    • @amiahh6157
      @amiahh6157 Před rokem +92

      @@GhoulBunny LITERALLY I LOVE THEM SO MUCH it made me hopeful

    • @triggered3625
      @triggered3625 Před rokem +46

      @@amiahh6157 hopeful that a wm will choose you? So why are y’all crying when blsck men go where he’s appreciated? Y’all secretly hoping that a non black men choose a black woman but expecting bm to bail y’all out for the sake of embarrassment but bm ain’t going for it.
      Bm are going where he’s appreciated and exercising his options.

    • @Maryluvsu12
      @Maryluvsu12 Před rokem +227

      @@triggered3625 I think your name fits because you really do seem triggered about this comment. I’m assuming she meant go with someone who loves and appreciates you regardless of race. It’s not a comment saying to go to a white or non-Black man but to go to a man who loves you and doesn’t tokenize you. Cameron treated her with love and respect from start to finish which isn’t always the case for Black women on these shows. Watching a show like that it wouldn’t have been surprising if after seeing she was Black he stopped liking her for that simple fact. I really think you just read this comment wrong lmao

    • @triggered3625
      @triggered3625 Před rokem +24

      @@Maryluvsu12 Nall I read between the lines like most black men, I’m finally glad to see black men waking up.
      Sysbm and passport bros are the way of life.

  • @strawberrylime33
    @strawberrylime33 Před rokem +1779

    The thing is, it's acceptable to be colorist in the world. A black male celebrity would never get in serious trouble for trashing a black woman based on her looks. Many bm find it funny to trash dark skin and textured hair.

    • @daviusdavis2537
      @daviusdavis2537 Před rokem

      You have no control over what black men find attractive. Seek therapy.

    • @apaddy5390
      @apaddy5390 Před rokem +188

      BW accept it by voting with their dollars. They’ll still buy the concert tickets, comedy show tickets, movie tickets, etc.

    • @Ban6ura
      @Ban6ura Před rokem +135

      @@apaddy5390 I agree. It’s very hard to get mad at these celebrities when the people they ridicule still support them. It also makes me lack pity for certain black women when they still ride for them then act surprised when egg gets thrown at their face. 😒

    • @thomasmartin1588
      @thomasmartin1588 Před rokem +31

      So you're going to ignore Black women bashing men for their dark skinned? And if you say it doesn't happen you're a liar. This is one of the reasons you're not taken seriously

    • @leannewheeler5351
      @leannewheeler5351 Před rokem +32

      A lot of Black women laugh too.

  • @Ally-vp4ks
    @Ally-vp4ks Před rokem +199

    As a black woman watching Perfect Match all I kept saying is “this is not our space”. These shows are simply making a color quota with us

    • @come_on_barbie_123
      @come_on_barbie_123 Před rokem +6

      Yes, and getting a more diverse viewership at bw's expense!!!

  • @miarobinson968
    @miarobinson968 Před rokem +1293

    I couldn’t finish Perfect Match either 🙄 The issue is in casting. Don’t cast black women if you’re going to cast colorist men/men who don’t date black women

    • @universal5313
      @universal5313 Před rokem +141

      Exactly ugh stop casting BW and putting them in these humiliating situations

    • @sandralawson4390
      @sandralawson4390 Před rokem +67

      But who is forcing bw to go embarrass themselves on tv ? Atp they should know what to expect on these . Why the need to be included on everything not meant for you ?

    • @karenallen6557
      @karenallen6557 Před rokem +2

      Agreed I couldn’t finish watching it ! Because of that smh

    • @sundiva7642
      @sundiva7642 Před rokem +3

      But do they actually ask them what they're attracted to before they go on the show??? They must if this keeps on happening right?

    • @leannewheeler5351
      @leannewheeler5351 Před rokem +81

      ​@SunDiva they do vet people on married at first sight. They actually addressed that there weren't more Black couples because Black men who applied wanted White wives but not many White women wanted Black husband's. And most Black women who applied wanted Black husband. There video clip is on CZcams.

  • @mindon_3
    @mindon_3 Před rokem +1854

    Dom’s pandering was so bad he became a caricature every time he said, “Yes, Queen” or “Strong black woman”. it was absurd, he didn’t need to do that while falling so quickly “inlove” with these white women.

    • @traetrae11
      @traetrae11 Před rokem +254

      Dom was a complete clown

    • @UnseathedDeity
      @UnseathedDeity Před rokem +76

      You can tell he was a pariah in his community and not too many black friends growing up so I guess that’s why it was hard for him. I don’t think he was doing it on purpose.

    • @jeshurundaniel794
      @jeshurundaniel794 Před rokem +187

      @@UnseathedDeity I'm tired of all these Dom stans
      Pls that man doesn't want or like black women
      Enough

    • @UnseathedDeity
      @UnseathedDeity Před rokem +51

      @@jeshurundaniel794 We never got to see him when he was single to be with a black women. Every time he was single he was loyal and rejected ALL* women which included Savannah and Ines. What he said was cringe but his mannerism and aesthetic just brings me to believe he just wasn’t around too many black people growing up.

    • @Confettifun
      @Confettifun Před rokem +56

      @@UnseathedDeity umm wasnt he dumped when he was on a date with that once dsbw(i forgot her name) when he went on his whole strong black woman BS??? Wasnt he single in the BEGINNING when he could have talked to anne Marie but ignored her. Dom is a self hating black guy, its pretty clear he thinks black women are meant to mule for him(as you are currently doing).

  • @like.thebird
    @like.thebird Před rokem +2495

    THANK YOU for this video!! I'm a hoe for these shows and as a white female viewer, the colorism is clear as day. You're not biased, they are such STUNNING women being ignored and it's very upsetting to watch.

    • @rumpelstiltskin4850
      @rumpelstiltskin4850 Před rokem

      WHY on Earth would it be very upsetting to watch grown ass people who are entitled to their own opinions and preferences express them?
      Are you suggesting that people (MEN) should PRETEND that black women are the most ...instead of the very LEAST desired by MOST men just to appease you and make you feel better?
      *G R O W U P!* 🙄

    • @julias2855
      @julias2855 Před rokem +326

      “I’m a hoe for these shows”
      That’s hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

    • @forevercalirarebreed
      @forevercalirarebreed Před rokem +32

      Speak!

    • @rosanapalacios862
      @rosanapalacios862 Před rokem +55

      ​@@julias2855 that took me out 😂😂😂

    • @underu5491
      @underu5491 Před rokem +110

      @like.thebird I was a producer for several reality tv dating shows. The casting director and producers work together to create a false narrative. They will always make black women appear to be undesirable by hiring men who will actively allow us to create a storyline. Questions are asked during their self-tape submissions and INTVS if they date blk wm and if they will allow us to create their storyline. Sometimes my peers will purposely cast men who don’t date blk women. OVERALL, the men truly do love black women but the chosen ones have to be open to us “producing” them. Meaning we will feed them dialogue and create plot situations. And that’s when the vile demonic story will insert itself. What happens off camera is that more then likely the men are always trying to hookup with the blkwm but they aren’t always trying to be avail for those reasons instead are truly trying to date. However, sometimes the blkwm don’t mind being produced for 15secs. of what they believe is fame instead they are setup and will sadly face embarrassment.

  • @h3tur
    @h3tur Před rokem +623

    preference or having a type means that you go for a certain look, for lack of better words, but it shouldn’t mean that you’re absolutely opposed to or revolted by the idea of going for someone outside of your “preference or type”

    • @TinyyTinkerbell
      @TinyyTinkerbell Před rokem +115

      Exactly. I dont prefer large beards on men but i would still date a guy with a large beard. And wouldn’t make him feel like he is second best or last option either

    • @h3tur
      @h3tur Před rokem +11

      @@TinyyTinkerbell exactlyyyy.

    • @h3tur
      @h3tur Před rokem +5

      @@strawberrylime33 agreed.

    • @princesschanel469
      @princesschanel469 Před rokem +1

      @@thealchemist5653 they said men, learn how to read

    • @thealchemist5653
      @thealchemist5653 Před rokem

      @@princesschanel469 You right my bad

  • @HappyGrims
    @HappyGrims Před rokem +191

    Francesca literally finds a way to be in every Netflix dating show

    • @shiyyymg
      @shiyyymg Před 2 měsíci +2

      And it’s so annoying bc SHES annoying

  • @GabimaruSano
    @GabimaruSano Před rokem +730

    I avoid these shows like the plague because of this. In the UK, we’re obsessed with Love Island…but I refuse to watch it because I already know how we’re treated on these shows!! Why would I entertain the bs when it constantly depicts us as undesirable. Love the video 💜

    • @rosethompson1737
      @rosethompson1737 Před rokem +8

      Same 🇬🇧💔

    • @MsUchenna12
      @MsUchenna12 Před rokem +5

      Truth

    • @zane101
      @zane101 Před rokem +46

      The amount of bullying that the one black girl this season of loveisland got is insane I don’t think I’ll be able to watch any up coming LI

    • @daisyslovebot
      @daisyslovebot Před rokem

      @@zane101 what girl?

    • @NIKEFOOTBALLER6
      @NIKEFOOTBALLER6 Před rokem +22

      @@daisyslovebot I think she’s talking about Tanya

  • @LorenCognita
    @LorenCognita Před rokem +528

    It’s really not asking a lot to request producers vet that the cast they pick are attracted to varying races, sizes, etc. If they want these shows to be inclusive then they need to cast inclusive people. It’s not rocket science.
    Thank you for saving me from wasting my time because I was just about to start watching some of these shows on Netflix lol ❤

    • @monalisa9636
      @monalisa9636 Před rokem +4

      Most people date within their own race which makes it hard to get around. A handsome white man is mainly going to date his own race. It’s not bad. It’s just want people find attractive

    • @UniqueDesigner97
      @UniqueDesigner97 Před rokem +24

      @@monalisa9636 I understand what you're saying and you make a valid point, but that doesn't explain why even the Black men don't date Black women either.

    • @bolu101
      @bolu101 Před rokem +5

      @@monalisa9636 inclusive people date any type of race not only their race so your reply isn’t relevant to the initial comment

    • @aprilclover2429
      @aprilclover2429 Před rokem +3

      It’s hard for them to find BM who don’t prefer WW. Real talk.

    • @shutuplove
      @shutuplove Před rokem +1

      You would think

  • @cniknik9863
    @cniknik9863 Před rokem +448

    I am so happy that Lauren from Love is Blind season 1 is still married to Cameron to this day. No other couple has topped them so far. I wish for more women like her, women like Deepti, women like Natalie, and more finding proper love on these shows.

    • @skzshnia2572
      @skzshnia2572 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Yessss👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽Clinton and Uche from “are you the one” they’ve been together since the show started and have a business together. I love it.☺️

  • @heathermartinez2954
    @heathermartinez2954 Před rokem +71

    To be fair. Colony was too grown for anyone on that show. She was way too good. She had an idea of what she wanted, and no one would have been able to step up to the plate

  • @bugshavehearts
    @bugshavehearts Před rokem +687

    I don't even watch todays dating shows, the 2000's dating shows have me in a choke hold. They have all the drama, personality's, and best of all scripted but we couldn't tell because it was so new to us. I know it was a crazier time, but i wish we could go back to that chaos

    • @YASSTHEEDOLL
      @YASSTHEEDOLL Před rokem +58

      Literally rewatching flavor of love on Tubi 😂😂

    • @katlynnbell
      @katlynnbell Před rokem +8

      There not even better with race

    • @NIKEFOOTBALLER6
      @NIKEFOOTBALLER6 Před rokem +25

      Flavor of Love is the best dating show hands down.

    • @burni988
      @burni988 Před rokem

      The only dating show that I still watch and love every season is MAFS Australia.

    • @Zazawestbrooke
      @Zazawestbrooke Před rokem +8

      Yeeessssss my favorite was a Nexxt ❤❤ or the one where the parents picked their kids partners loool the current bf/gfs reactions were G O L D E N

  • @rociocastillo6611
    @rociocastillo6611 Před rokem +259

    This issue is also VERY present in Love Island UK. They rarely have black women on the show, but when they do they're drop-dead gorgeous yet have no one wanting to couple up with them. It's so infuriating like how are they ignoring these beautiful women ???

    • @jtm881
      @jtm881 Před rokem +32

      This has to be my third time commenting this under this video, but this is so true! I've never watched it before and watched the winter version to see if I would be proven wrong...I couldn't finish it because I disliked it so much. The worst bit for me is when Tanya (the one original female black cast member) literally had no boys step up to be in a couple with her at the beginning. That was all I needed to know🤦‍♀️

    • @StylishGirl79
      @StylishGirl79 Před rokem +4

      danika

    • @xxxmelissatacionxxx
      @xxxmelissatacionxxx Před rokem +22

      ​@@jtm881 Seeing Tanya, the only black woman on the show, not have anyone interested in her apart from like 1-2 black men was painful.

    • @claire-dx1nw
      @claire-dx1nw Před rokem +15

      @@jtm881 ​ the amount that happens is so upsetting. It seems like the only guys interested in the dark skinned black women or the black women with ethnic features are black men. In the last season they had the audience pair the couples up to start, and it paired the black women with black men. There was another season where a contestant refused to correctly pronounce Yewande (a black woman’s name) right, and asked to refer to her by a different name. The black women (Yewande, Kaz, Samira, etc.) are often picked last.

    • @amdl270
      @amdl270 Před rokem +9

      It’s this societal thing that blonde women are the ultimate and most acceptable/ least controversial partner to choose on the show. Even white brunettes and red heads get less attention and people of color are treated like they’re not desirable. It’s infuriating. It’s like men don’t want to stir the pot with who they like.

  • @moderna73
    @moderna73 Před rokem +435

    I didn’t even have to see Chase’s parents to know he was half black half white. I don’t have to see his parents to guess which parent is in which racial group based on the way he acts hell I already know.

    • @sunflowerrose
      @sunflowerrose Před rokem +65

      Does he really wear blue contacts lenses 😂

    • @dexxhax12345
      @dexxhax12345 Před rokem +140

      White mama Black daddy for sure!

    • @shutuplove
      @shutuplove Před rokem

      lol ok

    • @thecoolintroverttv8381
      @thecoolintroverttv8381 Před rokem +1

      True!😂

    • @ViennA2891
      @ViennA2891 Před rokem +4

      ​​@@dexxhax12345
      So if his mom's white maybe that's the reason he likes ww...Idk
      Isn't that often what bw say to bm dating outside of their race ('ur moms blk')

  • @JulianSteve
    @JulianSteve Před rokem +994

    I have three problems with these types of shows:
    1. The lack of diversity when it comes to different body types. These fit bodies are not proper representation of what real people look like day to day.
    2. The Black and mixed with Black men lusting over White/non-black women. It’s wild and disappointing.
    3. These show runners do a bad job at choosing unbiased candidates. I know folks have their “preferences” (hate the word)… I believe if you exclude people from your race, culture, or anything in between, I have no respect for you💯
    Overall, great video, Toni. I appreciate the Jessie Woo, and special guest parts of this video💯

    • @damnkevindeaderthanamf3297
      @damnkevindeaderthanamf3297 Před rokem +37

      #2 have truth in it tho.....

    • @DeLaTr0ll
      @DeLaTr0ll Před rokem +130

      Ugh I dislike the term “preference”. It’s code for bigot nowadays.

    • @rumpelstiltskin4850
      @rumpelstiltskin4850 Před rokem

      HOW exactly is it *wild* and/or "disappointing" to see "bIack men" ...or ANY other grown ass men doing EXACTLY what they are _SUPPOSED_ to do on a reality show like this! 🤔
      They are _supposed_ to go for what THEY want, choose and prefer! They are NOT there to cater to YOUR issues or innate *INSECURITY* little man!
      (You sound like one of these W0MEN!) 😖

    • @TinyyTinkerbell
      @TinyyTinkerbell Před rokem +35

      I dislike that word too officially. And every word everyone has been using wrongly

    • @ochacal7794
      @ochacal7794 Před rokem

      lack of diversity in bodies? Do you really think if you mix a fit women with a fat women men or women who are fit will choose the fat women? really? Unless everybody is fat nobody will choose the fat person

  • @SoloCityTravels
    @SoloCityTravels Před rokem +59

    I understand preferences but also sometimes a “preference” is internalized racism and self-hate

    • @rigelb9025
      @rigelb9025 Před rokem +1

      Clearly, you don't understand preferences. A preference is something (or someone) you prefer. Plain and simple. You can try and rationalize your preferences all you want, but at the end of the day, you and you alone will know who & what you prefer, and even you won't be able to convince yourself not to, because of some ideological imperative you're meant to project to the outside world.

    • @musicnextchapter5034
      @musicnextchapter5034 Před rokem +3

      I'm a black man! The problem is not the black woman beauty, cause black women are crazy beautiful to me!
      The problem is the ATTITUDE (loud, masculine, the way she treats short, lacking, balding, BROKE, ugly men she doesn't like, ratchet attire & attitude, etc.) Compared to Other races (because women from other races have attitude but black women attitude is way worse)
      Even if women from other races have ATTITUDE, not only it's way less, but they give you more in terms of femininity, treating you like a man, etc. They have way more respect to you with a soft energy than black women
      The other point is that the opposite of Love is not Hate, it's Indifference!! Black men on tiktok that complain about black women, still love black women! They are just frustrated about black women, and want them to change.
      If they didn't like black women, they wouldn't talk about them at all, they would just date other races and keep quiet

    • @rigelb9025
      @rigelb9025 Před rokem

      @@musicnextchapter5034 Great point. Thanks for your input.

  • @Thatcaramelchic
    @Thatcaramelchic Před rokem +270

    This reminds me of the show being Mary Jane when she said, black women aren’t ugly we are just invisible.
    Are the sad truth is I don’t think any other race of women continually hast to ask themselves if the men of their own race and men of other races even see you as a option

    • @Maggiebenjee
      @Maggiebenjee Před rokem +21

      And that's the part bw don't want to talk about. That's why this "go where you are loved/appreciated" is nonsense. Appreciated and loved women wouldn't have these issues in the first place.

    • @Original-Michiko
      @Original-Michiko Před rokem +2

      @@Maggiebenjee Can you explain how that’s nonsense? Do you think there really is nowhere that black women can individually go to be loved and appreciated?

    • @aprilclover2429
      @aprilclover2429 Před rokem

      @@Original-Michiko many BW have their heads buried in the sand! Decades ago, I heard from BW that BM didn’t really like WW, it was just that WW were after them! You can’t change a situation unless you face it. No other race of women is rejected by their own men and others to the degree that BW are. We need to face the truth.

    • @vievie2713
      @vievie2713 Před rokem +18

      As an African woman thas recently migrated to the states, I can tell you this is a purely Western problem.

    • @aprilclover2429
      @aprilclover2429 Před rokem

      @@vievie2713 , how are things elsewhere?

  • @tullythebully
    @tullythebully Před rokem +179

    Off topic: Your whole aesthetic is everything. Make up, hair, outfit. So top tier ✨

  • @passivepanda3656
    @passivepanda3656 Před rokem +382

    I would love for show like black women competing for who's project and businesses will be financed, or shows where we see black women healing and thriving. This reality tv's are so useless and they ridicule us each and every day. This needs to stop.

    • @ToniBryanneTV
      @ToniBryanneTV  Před rokem +119

      We did with Selling Tampa, but all they did was have those women fight and be messy whole time these girls were actually selling million dollar homes. They showed more fighting than selling though.

    • @passivepanda3656
      @passivepanda3656 Před rokem +30

      @@ToniBryanneTV exactly. Honestly I was hoping for more. I was hoping for this TV reality to show how talented this women are. Each one of them added something because of their personality. But rather than that they turned it into a cat fight, almost a bougie version of love and hip hop.

    • @rae08
      @rae08 Před rokem +3

      💯💯💯

    • @larettabrown8037
      @larettabrown8037 Před rokem +4

      @@ToniBryanneTV and then it didn't even get renewed for a second season smh

    • @RC-fe9py
      @RC-fe9py Před rokem

      Meanwhile A.I. is taking over the 🌎. BW will be begging for an OF account just to eat soon.
      Buncha fools.....

  • @jhamilton6950
    @jhamilton6950 Před rokem +88

    I don’t think the producers understand how much damage they are doing to young people’s thought processes about what is attractive. They used to talk about how representation on magazines and ads affected people’s minds when I was younger but this level of subliminal and sometimes blatant messaging in a “reality” show is so much worse

    • @Maggiebenjee
      @Maggiebenjee Před rokem +19

      Lmao you don't think they understand? They don't care!

    • @ak-ww1tk
      @ak-ww1tk Před rokem

      Lmao seriously? They know, they just don't care. If everyone in this comment section has noticed this you think they haven't? Come on. At best they don't care, at worst it's deliberate to make black women look inferior. Black women should stop setting themselves up to be humiliated. They don't pick men who want black women. It's deliberate. Just don't go.

    • @littleflor2975
      @littleflor2975 Před 11 měsíci +5

      They know full well what they are doing.

  • @alanekek7033
    @alanekek7033 Před rokem +330

    I’m honestly getting tired of these conversations. This might be reality for black women and it is what it is. Stop going on these shows pls, I’m a black woman and it’s very embarrassing. Black women should only occupy spaces where we are wanted, not to fill some bs diversity quota. If every man wants a ww it really is what it is. Clearly our achievements don’t mean ish and our beauty is overlooked.

    • @haryel5058
      @haryel5058 Před rokem +110

      exactly. Do something with your life and the right man will come. And if not , you did something with your life

    • @ClayMastah344
      @ClayMastah344 Před rokem +16

      THANK YOU

    • @danayi_
      @danayi_ Před rokem +52

      💯
      It’s sad that BW want to force people to pick them. It’s natural to like what you’re familiar with, let’s normalise that please. Interracial dating is not for everyone so let’s go where we’re appreciated.

    • @thetruesoulofanaquarius9302
      @thetruesoulofanaquarius9302 Před rokem +71

      This tho 💯❤️ it is just getting cringy and pathetic now. I' am a darkskinned BW and I have never been so desperate/chasing behind a man. It is never that serious and to be honest people especially men feel some type of way when you aren't a desperate BW.

    • @Grendygirl
      @Grendygirl Před rokem +32

      too hot to handle is cringe, Melinda and Rhonda was fighting for men that don't even want them

  • @mimiandy1683
    @mimiandy1683 Před rokem +133

    In my opinion, these shows are really for white women. These shows are supposed to be ego boosts for them. Reminders that let them know that they will always be the most desired.

    • @universal5313
      @universal5313 Před rokem +45

      Right I just wish BW would stop going to these shows

    • @mimiandy1683
      @mimiandy1683 Před rokem +24

      @@universal5313 I understand why black women go these shows and I know why they have their supporters. But I just wish that these women fully understand what they're getting themselves into.

    • @iceprincess825
      @iceprincess825 Před rokem

      Exactly this show is not for black people.

    • @LisePlansandJournals
      @LisePlansandJournals Před rokem +2

      🎯

    • @LisePlansandJournals
      @LisePlansandJournals Před rokem +1

      This. This about sums it up.

  • @KDH0408
    @KDH0408 Před rokem +246

    Flavor of love was the only blk dating show I’ve seen & ofc we all loved it, but I’d wanna see one that doesn’t present us in a “ratchet” light

    • @dashiajames1882
      @dashiajames1882 Před rokem +2

      Flavor of love wasn't the only show that had about a full group of blk women. Try ANTM there was alot of blk contestants.

    • @justinebailey5333
      @justinebailey5333 Před rokem

      Right

    • @BamPowBoom11
      @BamPowBoom11 Před rokem +54

      @@dashiajames1882 you missed the ENTIRE point. Where women going on ANTM to date Tyra Banks?! NO..
      You point means nothing here.

    • @prettykitty5416
      @prettykitty5416 Před rokem +36

      @@dashiajames1882 antm was NOT a dating show 🤡

    • @nikkiq5124
      @nikkiq5124 Před rokem +13

      "The Courtship" shows better black women dating representation!

  • @Aquagirl-in6wr
    @Aquagirl-in6wr Před rokem +324

    As an African woman I just have a question, do black people have to be involved in everything? Especially in spaces where people just tolerate you, but don't necessarily want you? It's really painful to watch these shows and see how black women are treated. The casting directors can't go asking every single person whether they like black women or not? That's so time consuming. Black women, go where you're loved, not tolerated. We can't be liked or accepted everywhere it's just part of life.

    • @lemonjuiceproduction2411
      @lemonjuiceproduction2411 Před rokem +69

      Exactly..I think we should create our own shows of love interest...and a few have been made but they didn't receive hype such as another old show about black women seeking love in Rome Italy, which they were successful with and went on dates with Italian men...but most people don't know this show much

    • @jasminerobertson9216
      @jasminerobertson9216 Před rokem +40

      @@lemonjuiceproduction2411 I agree but you know what happens when we create our own

    • @ayak6317
      @ayak6317 Před rokem +43

      Go where we are loved? We are not loved anywhere.
      Though I agree we should stop going on these shows. Even if we flipped it and created a show there whites were the minority the few whites would still be selected first by the black white and other men on the show. This is just the world we’re in and it’s tiring AF

    • @Aquagirl-in6wr
      @Aquagirl-in6wr Před rokem +5

      @@jasminerobertson9216 what happens?

    • @Aquagirl-in6wr
      @Aquagirl-in6wr Před rokem +48

      @@ayak6317 yes I agree, it is tiring. But black people should create their own shows and really support one another. We rarely hear Indians, Chinese, arabs etc..complaining about wanting to be included, yet they have large populations living in the US. Those races watch their own shows and do things within their communities and support each other. This is what black people need to do. Instead of constantly complaining about wanting to be included in spaces that don't really want them.

  • @kaniahankston4310
    @kaniahankston4310 Před rokem +56

    Watching the perfect match was so painful! Black women were repeatedly ignored or used as pawns to get other women. All of them were absolutely beautiful but we’re treated so differently. It made me sad.

    • @rediettadesse2828
      @rediettadesse2828 Před rokem +8

      It's thier loss and ignorance , but I think the shows are doing some programming or something,

    • @2berrydelicious
      @2berrydelicious Před rokem

      For me the "American" ones were not it.

  • @zazalula9064
    @zazalula9064 Před rokem +223

    Deandra was so right about how they need to pick people that are more open with their dating preferences. Especially on shows that end in marriage. Why does Cameron and Lauren have to be a one off?

    • @kurokaizen1889
      @kurokaizen1889 Před rokem

      Because a majority of White women literally just don't like Black women. Same way a majority of Black men don't care about White women outside of sex. They'll sleep with you (we're men) but marriage is a different story. For me to marry a white woman she'd have to be truly exceptional like miraculously exceptional because she's not Black.

    • @moustik31
      @moustik31 Před rokem +27

      It's probably an accident, I bet the producers were as surprised as the rest of us by his clear attraction to Lauren.

    • @rue3725
      @rue3725 Před rokem +18

      I'm pretty sure they lie just to get on the show.

    • @iceprincess825
      @iceprincess825 Před rokem +10

      I think these guys are basically lying by saying they are open to dating all women, but in fact aren’t interested. They are just trying to get on the show.

  • @lillybilly9954
    @lillybilly9954 Před rokem +28

    I think black women should stay off the shows. I think one thing to remember is that these people tend to be influencers. I think that this is an accurate reflection of black men’s anti blackness and it’s really no surprise. There have been interviews with producers of these shows who talk about the difficulty of matching black women because they prefer black men while black men specifically request non black women. Don’t go on those shows. It is very cringey.

  • @sunflowerrose
    @sunflowerrose Před rokem +174

    Michelle Young is biracial as well so its only Rachel who is full black on the bachelor franchise. But I think the new bachelorette 2023 is black and she is stunning

    • @ToniBryanneTV
      @ToniBryanneTV  Před rokem +52

      Yes, I was bamboozled by the internet 😭

    • @EclecticGiraffe
      @EclecticGiraffe Před rokem +56

      LOL I paused at that too 😭 I was like fully black where?? That woman has a whole white mom 😭

    • @kirsten_305
      @kirsten_305 Před rokem +7

      All black dads and non-white moms too. At least Rachel was a really good bachelorette. So when they got it right they did it well.

    • @kurokaizen1889
      @kurokaizen1889 Před rokem +3

      ​@@kirsten_305 Sounds like you'd like the mom to be Black and the dad White as then you wouldn't have a problem with it huh

    • @kirsten_305
      @kirsten_305 Před rokem +8

      @@kurokaizen1889 no it’s an observation and a trend.

  • @Dani511.
    @Dani511. Před rokem +80

    That’s why I love the reality show “Are You The One” so much the black people are never left out!

    • @ToniBryanneTV
      @ToniBryanneTV  Před rokem +41

      Yesss this new season has been amazing with inclusivity like i’m actually shocked😭

    • @tokyo204
      @tokyo204 Před rokem

      @@ToniBryanneTV i Hope you will talk about it on your channel, I love watching this show

  • @ClayMastah344
    @ClayMastah344 Před rokem +77

    I understand blaming the producers but honestly the show reflected me and some other women’s dating experience. No, not ALL black women deal with that, several of us are shown by society to be desirable, I’m just saying it’s not surprising or new. Having to go in on showrunners to find “men who like black women” is almost an insult in of itself because generally speaking, men like women PERIOD. I don’t see any other poc group of women have to emphasize this the way I’ve seen bw do. To have to treat yourself as an exception that needs more careful selection and curating just to attain desirability can degrade self esteem just as much as not being picked in these shows.

    • @Blissedx
      @Blissedx Před rokem +1

      🙌🙌🙌. This comment is the mindset to have ❤. I totally agree.

    • @elizagoc4569
      @elizagoc4569 Před rokem

      THIS and the fact that many people are like: omg I’m so disappointed, black men are swooning over white women. My goodness, isn’t this racist? Attraction is attraction, people are people and how is it fair to get angry at someone for liking someone whose skin is not a certain color. Now that’s closing yourself for other races. That’s just ridiculous.

    • @Imxel21
      @Imxel21 Před rokem +12

      @@melc4308you don’t see south asians begging because you’re not in south asian spaces. They especially DARK SKIN south asian women have a lot of the same issues

  • @ishamachadobracamonte4772

    I have to say, it is very upsetting to see that shows go out of their way to cast people that are carbon copies of each other. I'm peruvian, and let me tell you, less than 10% of the population looks like Flavia, not only because she is completely modified (both esthetically and surgecaly), but also because that is not how most of us look. Like in any country, we have tons of looks but mostly darker hair and olive skin tones. Also DEFINETLY not "spicy latinas" like US media is always trying to portray us to be, it's getting tired tbh

    • @sbfairy
      @sbfairy Před rokem +19

      This is a good point. Even woc on these shows must be white presenting or closely fit the European standard. If they don’t then they have to play into stereotypes to get noticed. Like you said, the spicy Latina. Even then they rarely get picked.

  • @jadaaarr
    @jadaaarr Před rokem +99

    Honestly I noticed a lot of this treatment when I was watching love island UK with my friends in 2017 it was obvious every single season that we get picked last no matter what the shade is, i knew it was real bad when even biracial girls were getting treated poorly. I honestly wish black women would stop going on these shows because i really think they select men who only like/lust after only white women, because if even the white 'brunettes' are having trouble getting selected first or taken serious I think we should know the rest of the season will be hard for us. Truly I think they bring BW on to embarrass us they know they select men who don't like us.

    • @jtm881
      @jtm881 Před rokem +9

      Literally- love island is a sham. I've never watched love island before, but I tried to this year just to see if I would be proven wrong...I didn't even finish it😂

    • @ginaluv7228
      @ginaluv7228 Před rokem +6

      Don’t think it’s the truth , that’s exactly what they are doing . Why would a system that was made against black people make black women the desirable women . It’s mean but it’s just realty and the sooner you wake up to it, it won’t be as hurtful because at the end of the day being chosen get you perks but it’s not the end of the world. The best validation is internally ❤

  • @zazalula9064
    @zazalula9064 Před rokem +38

    Omds! You're so right!! They are always putting black women with men of all colours who don't like black women. It is so annoying.

  • @seratia123
    @seratia123 Před rokem +11

    I never thought that anyone is going to these shows to really pick a husband. It always seemed like more of self promotion.

  • @EbonyHoopGyal
    @EbonyHoopGyal Před rokem +251

    It is a problem because TV has a major influence on human interaction. This continuing to be the standard results in us BW never being picked as genuine partners IRL. It is really hurtful. I feel like US marketing/media execs just truly don’t care about us or our feelings, and they never will. Oh well 🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @hild-demongoddess7498
      @hild-demongoddess7498 Před rokem +1

      They do it on purpose. They know withought the social programming and manipulation we are the most desirable. Even historically. We look the best naturally, best genetics, and we age the best. They have to program people to think we are ugly or undesirable. It keeps white supremacy in place.

    • @ClayMastah344
      @ClayMastah344 Před rokem +74

      They don’t and won’t. It pays to have another group on the “bottom”. Lowering our value helps to elevate theirs on a global scale. That’s all they care about.

    • @ccsleepy6295
      @ccsleepy6295 Před rokem +27

      I feel like it may be the opposite, the racism embedded in our everyday lives in the US translates to racist interactions on micro-scales like a dating show. But I agree it is incredibly harmful to show such blatant racism on popular shows.

    • @rediettadesse2828
      @rediettadesse2828 Před rokem +32

      I think it's done on purpose

    • @hild-demongoddess7498
      @hild-demongoddess7498 Před rokem +12

      @@rediettadesse2828 definitely

  • @kellyflynn8635
    @kellyflynn8635 Před rokem +28

    As a white woman who watched perfect match (and a few other of these shows) totally agree with this take. SPECIFICALLY Colony was literally perfect. I'm just like her but I'm white. It's so wrong how they treated her but also people are allowed to have preference but like SHE WAS SO FINE and strong and the only one (along with anne sophie) that KNEW their worth and standards. They were just great gals and tbh none of those men deserved them but stillllll. like see the value mennnnn

  • @TishaPisha
    @TishaPisha Před rokem +23

    Choosing not to date a group isn't preference, it's exclusion. Preference means you prefer other but are still open to the opposite. I prefer homemade vanilla, but I'll still eat butter pecan. Choosing not to date a BW as a BM is misogynoir/self hatred. Imagine belonging to a group and having to question whether the men in your group are attracted to your skin. Chile...

    • @LisePlansandJournals
      @LisePlansandJournals Před rokem

      Black men use tht ‘preference’ word as a cop out and black women sadly believe them. To prefer something means you like and will have either one. That’s not what they exhibit. They exhibit tht they hate blackness. Clearly, even theirs. I just wish black men would say they wish they were white men and leave black women alone. I also wish black women would stop allowing themselves to be tokens on these shows.

    • @mnkwazi
      @mnkwazi Před 2 měsíci

      @TishaPisha you probably can't compete.

    • @55CINCO55
      @55CINCO55 Před 29 dny

      You should try to explain this to Asian women/most women of color lol...

  • @Alexandtheworld919
    @Alexandtheworld919 Před rokem +30

    If we’re being honest those white women didn’t really want those black men either. They only picked them because there weren’t better options and they wanted to stay in the house. This was proven by how Georgia treat Dom after the show was over and how Francesca left Dom for Damian when Damian just isn’t attractive. Unfortunately for some the backlash of not getting picked only seems to hit black women the hardest.
    Even if these men are open to dating other races if their own women or ideal preference are an option i think those men will always chose someone other than us. I think it just reinforces white beauty standards over and over again.

    • @joepatrick3092
      @joepatrick3092 Před rokem

      But black men don’t cry about it tho. We all know white people are the most desirable race male and female so why complain?😅

    • @Noblesavage31
      @Noblesavage31 Před rokem +2

      Nope I like white women asian any race and I’m a black man and only have dated black women but I still have a choice I like and a certain look no matter what color

  • @christinakorz1773
    @christinakorz1773 Před rokem +30

    Michelle Young is biracial. Her mother is white. Thank you for this video! Literally what you said in this video is exactly how I felt watching these shows

  • @madmann1000
    @madmann1000 Před rokem +118

    I seen this idea elsewhere, but I agree with the idea of making potential contestants show pictures of the last 3 to 5 people they dated or were in a relationship with.
    It’s very easy to walk into casting and be like “yeah, I like all types of women”, but then get on the show and ending up fighting over the same 2 to 3 white women every other man on the show is vying for

  • @Hintedbymarina
    @Hintedbymarina Před rokem +63

    Nothing surprises me about the outcome of shows like this when it comes to black women which is why I seldom tune in. It isn't meant to uplift the black female gaze. The ONLY one that I actually watched in it's entirety that I enjoyed was the season of the bachelorette with Rachel Lindsey...it was so nice to actually see a mono-racial black woman being centered and watching men of ALL races exclusively vying for her attention. There hasn't been a season like her's ever since so really, I don't watch. And why would I? I already know how the formula of the show will be, even when they cast men who look like me so I'm good.

    • @kurokaizen1889
      @kurokaizen1889 Před rokem +1

      So that's what y'all want. The attention of ALL men. Not just YOUR own men. The quiet part is finally being said out loud at least.

    • @PrincessYonna1
      @PrincessYonna1 Před rokem +12

      @@kurokaizen1889 bro hush when white women go on the show for the same thing . Even black men. But issa problem when black women seek it?

    • @Randomthings...2.0
      @Randomthings...2.0 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@kurokaizen1889YES,in the same way white women get attention from everyone. The Black women on the show not only were they elegant, beautiful, well behaved but were also very independent so why not get the same attention 😮‍💨

  • @sundiva7642
    @sundiva7642 Před rokem +45

    Honestly as a black woman there are certain shows I'll never go on. And as a woman there are some shows and "podcasts" I'll never go on

  • @Salimah45
    @Salimah45 Před rokem +18

    I don’t watch reality shows period. It’s clear that we as Black women are not loved or appreciated by BM, but I will say I’m married to a gorgeous, loving, God-fearing BM. He’s the exception. I love him, he loves me, he protects me and he ALWAYS tells me I’m beautiful. But back to these shows: they go out of their way to make BW look bad and it’s working against us in real life

    • @kurokaizen1889
      @kurokaizen1889 Před rokem

      He's literally not "the exception" though. A majority of Black men are married to Black women. A majority of Black men are also single and childless which is contrary to the narrative that is pushed about them.
      If even you a Black woman married to a Black man are this delusional then what do you expect for us "exceptional" Black men to do? Because I don't want women who clearly harbour hate for or towards me.

  • @layti8261
    @layti8261 Před rokem +70

    Wheww the braids part is so true, I got them and then I started getting nervous about the job interviews I had coming up 😢

    • @ToniBryanneTV
      @ToniBryanneTV  Před rokem +27

      I loved the honesty and vulnerability in reference to getting braids

    • @sarahdanielle12
      @sarahdanielle12 Před rokem +2

      how did the interview go? 🥺

    • @JennyLl94
      @JennyLl94 Před rokem +18

      I live in London and recently started getting braids done all the time as I went back natural in 2019. So most of my recent job interviews were done with braids , at first I was a bit nervous but it actually never was an issue. I even took my corporate picture (which I use on LinkedIn) in braids and I received so many compliments from different directors! So all that to say that I think we should just wear them proudly with confidence!

    • @layti8261
      @layti8261 Před rokem +11

      @@sarahdanielle12 it actually went really well I don’t even think they noticed ( I had it back in a bun and it was a panel of all men so 🤷🏾‍♀️😂) and the next day I got an offer

    • @layti8261
      @layti8261 Před rokem +3

      @@JennyLl94 agreed! I think we may get in our own heads (especially in the corporate world) more than we realize

  • @avianalaureano8264
    @avianalaureano8264 Před rokem +22

    Honestly I would never go on a dating show especially not one where I would have to compete against other women for a man cause nobody is gonna call me a strong black woman yall not gonna pay me dust

  • @Neco2684
    @Neco2684 Před rokem +27

    NOPE, a Black dating show would never work! Have you ever seen that interview of the Black pastor from Married at First Sight? He said that the issue with dating shows for specifically Black WOMEN is that, Black men wanted to date every race except Black and Black women only wanted Black men. Look it up, there's a video on it

    • @triggered3625
      @triggered3625 Před rokem +7

      Not true but I get it.

    • @Imetwurld_
      @Imetwurld_ Před rokem +4

      Lol . I'm a black woman that dosent want to date only black man .. he should speak for the ones he heard it from .

  • @elisahussain2404
    @elisahussain2404 Před rokem +55

    so glad you talked about this! i remember watching perfect match and having my jaw on the floor. i LOVED selling tampa, and the fact that netflix canceled the show + how anne-sophie and colony were treated says a lot about the platform….

    • @TaraJ950
      @TaraJ950 Před rokem

      They are just not for that kind of reality tv. That one black girl that ended up with Bartise was shallow and acting trashy like other white girls and that's why she got picked but well rounded educated and successful girls didn't. It's a shallow superficial dating show and of course that shallow and superficial people aka influencers will thrive in that environment opposed to quality educated hard working ones.

  • @catsy88
    @catsy88 Před rokem +50

    Great video! I would be fine not seeing black women on these shows cause they never get a fair shot.

    • @ToniBryanneTV
      @ToniBryanneTV  Před rokem +16

      No but honestly. Just don’t put them in the shows at all.

  • @littlenia
    @littlenia Před rokem +100

    Can't get enough of her😭💕

  • @sadinahrafael9700
    @sadinahrafael9700 Před rokem +10

    alot of other poc do not fight to go to places they are not wanted ...
    maybe we should learn from that.

  • @Krazyerd
    @Krazyerd Před rokem +6

    As an Asian man, I feel like media has to do better in portraying Asian men and Black women. Btw any black women here date Asian men?

  • @Yamalie
    @Yamalie Před rokem +22

    We black women need to stop playing in to the a loyalty troop when it comes to black men I believe this is one factor that is really killing our representation as desirable. we are not making these men compete for us, so therefore every other men think we are low in the totem pole, a pond to be play with. especially black man I’m sick and tired of it

    • @imanigordon6803
      @imanigordon6803 Před rokem +4

      Black men didn’t make these shows

    • @joepatrick3092
      @joepatrick3092 Před rokem +4

      Of course let’s blame the black men for Brad not founding us attractive 😂

    • @Maggiebenjee
      @Maggiebenjee Před rokem +3

      Nonbm aren't interested either. This wouldn't need to be a topic if they were, now would it?!

    • @jeffrey-Epstein00
      @jeffrey-Epstein00 Před rokem +1

      As if non bm men are picking y'all too 😂😂 every season on love island there's a wm rejecting a bw lol

    • @55CINCO55
      @55CINCO55 Před 29 dny

      As a Hispanic man, I can say that Black women are the least "loyal" race of women, lol. There is a direct correlation with how dark a woman is and how "loyal" they are, speaking from my experience.

  • @veevee999
    @veevee999 Před rokem +27

    Melinda got a lot of attention on too hot to handle but I think it’s because she had a very open personality and also didn’t limit herself to just the black men on the show.

    • @musicnextchapter5034
      @musicnextchapter5034 Před rokem

      I'm a black man! The problem is not the black woman beauty, cause black women are crazy beautiful to me!
      The problem is the ATTITUDE (loud, masculine, the way she treats short, lacking, balding, BROKE, ugly men she doesn't like, ratchet attire & attitude, etc.) Compared to Other races (because women from other races have attitude but black women attitude is way worse)
      Even if women from other races have ATTITUDE, not only it's way less, but they give you more in terms of femininity, treating you like a man, etc. They have way more respect to you with a soft energy than black women
      The other point is that the opposite of Love is not Hate, it's Indifference!! Black men on tiktok that complain about black women, still love black women! They are just frustrated about black women, and want them to change.
      If they didn't like black women, they wouldn't talk about them at all, they would just date other races and keep quiet

    • @isahmarie3119
      @isahmarie3119 Před rokem

      @@musicnextchapter5034 you’re the problem and the reason why this video was made

    • @elisejackson2854
      @elisejackson2854 Před rokem

      Mel was gorgeous

    • @Chi_di
      @Chi_di Před rokem +2

      I mean she’s also a model so looks have something to do with a lot

  • @LunaG123
    @LunaG123 Před rokem +26

    I don’t watch the bachelor it’s not relatable even for me and I find it boring as hell but I did watch the netflix shows ..I’m white and it was so uncomfortable and OBVIOUS that the black woman on the perfect match were just added as a quota so I can’t imagine being a black woman watching that (or being in it) and how disrespected they must feel… what was even the point of embarrassing and wasting their time on the show if the producers know they didn’t put a single man on that show who’s type didn’t go further than Francesca. Pathetic and tbh Anne-Sophie and Colony were too good to be on the show anyway. They are smart woman who’s careers you can look up to outside of social media…Francesca and the other girls aren’t they waited tables before they got on reality tv. I personally don’t find that admirable.

  • @matisseedgaryoshihara5625

    I'm so glad this is being brought up. I was watching Rock of Love two years ago (like the Bachelor, but it's literally Brett Michaels from Poison as the "bachelor") and literally every black girl was mistreated. I don't even think there were more than two black women total. No one had the guts to address it, because it was the 2000s, but it made me so sick to my stomach. One girl got called "classless" because she got fed up from being bullied by other girls. I'm not gonna lie, the way it was produced, like, every single woman on there had some kind of bad streak and ended up saying nasty things. But it really says something when the black girls get kicked off first and essentially condescended towards for not being the pretty, dainty white women that these aging rock stars exclusively pine for.

    • @jenbunny1984
      @jenbunny1984 Před rokem +3

      I remember that show!! Yes indeed! Just horrible.

    • @iceprincess825
      @iceprincess825 Před rokem

      That was another show for white people. They can’t say it outright like they did in the 50s. We have to learn to read the room.

  • @fma6387
    @fma6387 Před rokem +22

    I felt the bachelor ! They had some gorgeous black women with sweet personality never got any attention and always got eliminated smh

    • @pixiestxNyomouf
      @pixiestxNyomouf Před 20 dny +1

      DeAndrea was always so stunning to me. Watched BIP for her. Peter, Chase and Ed are fools

  • @damnkevindeaderthanamf3297

    Black women, idc. You guys are the most beautiful imo. Ignore these idiots. U have no business trynna be on clown ish like this. Wear your crown and.....date out

    • @hild-demongoddess7498
      @hild-demongoddess7498 Před rokem +8

      Exactly. They do it on purpose. Everyone knows we are the most desirable. They can see it.

  • @LifeOfKells
    @LifeOfKells Před rokem +35

    I LOVE Deondras interview! Her personality just seems so genuine❤️

  • @Kloves818
    @Kloves818 Před rokem +11

    Also an important note to mention is they will cast the average everyday white man/woman for these dating shows. Someone that still lives with their parents (Bachelor Peter) or is a 23-yr old with a nanny (Corinne from the bachelor) or is fresh out of college etc. MEANWHILE black contestants will have notable backgrounds in an established career (Bachelorette Rachel)/Colony (Perfect Match). , founding a non-profit organization (Bachelor Matt James), etc. It really pushes the idea that you have to be black and excellent to be considered equal to white and average.

    • @pixiestxNyomouf
      @pixiestxNyomouf Před 20 dny

      Maggie on Matt James season of the bachelor was in Pharmacy school and she was a beacon of sunlight, but never got the time of day

  • @hellopumpkin86
    @hellopumpkin86 Před rokem +7

    I get why black women are disappointed about not seeing themselves appreciated and chosen as the “final woman” on reality shows, but honestly, black women shouldn’t stress over these things. Reality tv will become even more fake than it already is if these producers start telling men to “choose the black woman for ratings!” You don’t want to be pandered to for reality television. I don’t want black women to fall for the pandering aspect slowly building in Hollywood. Look at what Disney is doing these days for example.
    I would prefer people demanding more black women in fictional shows and franchises instead of hand-me-down characters that used to be white when black people and black cultures have rich backgrounds of original stories to draw from-far better and engaging to ALL races than Black Panther!😂

  • @zakirahkw
    @zakirahkw Před rokem +28

    I’m soooo glad you mentioned the Bachelor. It’s often left out of conversations like these but it’s one of the worst ones to do this stuff 😭😭😭

    • @zakirahkw
      @zakirahkw Před rokem +7

      Not to mention Matt had NOTHING to do with the franchise, when there were sooo many other options

    • @musicnextchapter5034
      @musicnextchapter5034 Před rokem +1

      I'm a black man! The problem is not the black woman beauty, cause black women are crazy beautiful to me!
      The problem is the ATTITUDE (loud, masculine, the way she treats short, lacking, balding, BROKE, ugly men she doesn't like, ratchet attire & attitude, etc.) Compared to Other races (because women from other races have attitude but black women attitude is way worse)
      Even if women from other races have ATTITUDE, not only it's way less, but they give you more in terms of femininity, treating you like a man, etc. They have way more respect to you with a soft energy than black women
      The other point is that the opposite of Love is not Hate, it's Indifference!! Black men on tiktok that complain about black women, still love black women! They are just frustrated about black women, and want them to change.
      If they didn't like black women, they wouldn't talk about them at all, they would just date other races and keep quiet

    • @Imxel21
      @Imxel21 Před rokem

      @@musicnextchapter5034 yet black men are more violent, loud and less educated. Hush

  • @nudgiebutters
    @nudgiebutters Před rokem +7

    I just had to tell you how much I enjoy your videos. The topics chosen and the realness you bring, is so refreshing. Thank you for what you do!😊

  • @michelef9429
    @michelef9429 Před rokem +11

    This conversation about the importance of casting people that are open minded in order to set contestants up for success is powerful. I never thought of that angle, but now it's all I can think about. I also liked your comments around how we are socialized and how that translates into our romantic preferences.
    I am a clinical social work student with a BA in political science and these commentary videos are what I live for and fuel much of my research. I stumbled upon this video and your channel and I'm so glad I did! I am subscribing and can't wait to watch more. :)

  • @duniadadi2100
    @duniadadi2100 Před rokem +28

    Can we stop begging for ppl to like us…. It looks so desperate at this point. Like who likes you ladies, let’s stop constantly painting ourselves crying for validation from black men and mainstream media…it’s so tiring 🙄

    • @universal5313
      @universal5313 Před rokem +10

      We need to collectively agree to stop going on these shows...

    • @Maggiebenjee
      @Maggiebenjee Před rokem +4

      The lack of dignity in bw is abhorrent

    • @eternityriley1833
      @eternityriley1833 Před rokem +1

      Is it begging to be like or wanting to be seen? It's human nature to WANT to be desired whether you're male, female, young, old, dark, light, fat, skinny...no one wants to be seen as undesirable and unworthy of love, especially if it's an attribute out of a person's control. At least some ppl can find some comfort or acceptance within their own community, but a lot of Black women (especially dark skin bw) don't feel like they can even find it there, whether from experience or from the outside's influence on them. I mean let's not sugarcoat it, most of the world & media says we're loud, ugly, undesirable, uncontrollable, attitudy, ghetto/ratchet, dirty etc. etc. etc. After a while it wears you down. So, I don't think speaking out about it is the issue...the 'issue' is the issue. If we (black women) keep talking about it amongst ourselves, what's going to change about it? Not to say we can't get our lives together & focus on being the best versions of ourselves, but a lot of bw face this problem, and it's being amplified in the media whether we decide to watch or not 🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @denisewest3858
    @denisewest3858 Před rokem +161

    Thank you for talking about these important issues. It seems these producers of these shows are co-signing racism and colourism who are equally disgusting. I really feel bad for so many of these beautiful sisters who go on these shows just to be rejected by men who do not deserve their attention. We as BP really gotta stop saying " preference " is OK, when it comes to BM rejecting BW and uplifting WW purely based on their skin colour. This is NOT OK. This will never be acceptable, and we should stop trying to normalise this behaviour. Colourism is the friend of white supremacy and racism and should be treated as such. How on earth can you as a BM say your "preference " is anything that is non black. WTF. It's crazy. We, as BW, gotta stop allowing these pathetic idiots to get under our skin and try to make us feel less then because of their own insecurities and lack of self-worth. These BM are lost and are in a sunken place with a slave mind mentality. It's not BW who has a problem. It's these fools. I really think we, as viewers, need to boycott these shows and create our own. I hate to see so many beautiful BW treated this way. The other women they choose are not even in the same league, physically or mentally. Our sisters are too good for this nonsense.

    • @damnkevindeaderthanamf3297
      @damnkevindeaderthanamf3297 Před rokem

      SYSBW= SAVE YOURSELF BLACK WOMEN
      The only reason these idiots say such and feel comfy because they know there's a community of women(black women) who won't give any male competitions! They know how black women race loyal and use it against u! DATE OUT AND COMPARE THEM TO OTHER MEN!

    • @Grendygirl
      @Grendygirl Před rokem +15

      its not the producers fault, the BM on these shows not interested, and BW typically go for BM, have you seen too hot to handle? Melinda and Rhonda was cringe, they fighting for men that don't even want them.

    • @MultiDiceman
      @MultiDiceman Před rokem

      @@Grendygirl BS Black men on the shows usually always go for the Black women. Its the Black women and the more so the BW viewers who need white men's validation. Stop putting blame on your second option when non BM prefer their own

    • @Maggiebenjee
      @Maggiebenjee Před rokem +2

      ​@@Grendygirl Bw will forever blame the world instead of fixing those low standards

    • @musicnextchapter5034
      @musicnextchapter5034 Před rokem

      ​@@Grendygirl​I'm a black man! The problem is not the black woman beauty, cause black women are crazy beautiful to me!
      The problem is the ATTITUDE (loud, masculine, the way she treats short, lacking, balding, BROKE, ugly men she doesn't like, ratchet attire & attitude, etc.) Compared to Other races (because women from other races have attitude but black women attitude is way worse)
      Even if women from other races have ATTITUDE, not only it's way less, but they give you more in terms of femininity, treating you like a man, etc. They have way more respect to you with a soft energy than black women
      The other point is that the opposite of Love is not Hate, it's Indifference!! Black men on tiktok that complain about black women, still love black women! They are just frustrated about black women, and want them to change.
      If they didn't like black women, they wouldn't talk about them at all, they would just date other races and keep quiet

  • @roziebaybe1626
    @roziebaybe1626 Před rokem +6

    My honest opinion, *COLONY* did not "fit in" with this crowd. Knowing her from the miami show, she seemed too "mature" and accomplished for these "fuck boys" I was actually shocked when she walked in

  • @bannedmann4469
    @bannedmann4469 Před rokem +5

    Complains about racism, is racist towards mixed peoples...

  • @YesLauraIam
    @YesLauraIam Před rokem +194

    Love the commentary…!
    1. More REAL racial diversity is needed
    2. Don’t cast for shows that don’t promote your values and morals
    3. It’s soooo many black men (maybe not the majority) that date and love black women….it’s better to just gravitate to them instead of those who are not like minded.
    Thanks for bringing awareness!

    • @melanatedthinking
      @melanatedthinking Před rokem +90

      #3 I would be careful claiming that many black men LOVE black women. Especially in the US, you can’t have absentee fathers of upwards of 80%. Sure, they will lay down with you but Love is an action. Also, black men date out at the highest rate compared to all groups of men.

    • @Lovelifeandmoney638
      @Lovelifeandmoney638 Před rokem +28

      Stop lying to yourself and others

    • @jeshurundaniel794
      @jeshurundaniel794 Před rokem +41

      @@melanatedthinking exactlyyy sis
      Let's stop the lies

    • @Aura-Awakened
      @Aura-Awakened Před rokem

      @@melanatedthinking right! It’s always BW trying to tell themselves how much BM love them. Meanwhile, BM are no where to be found in conversations like this because they really don’t care at all

    • @UnseathedDeity
      @UnseathedDeity Před rokem

      @@melanatedthinking there’s billions of people in this world, perception is often skewed, nobody knows everything,it’s perceived knowledge which can be faulty. A lot of these broken homes are created due to both parties wanting to have unprotected sex,most of these people aren’t even in relationships. And that last part isn’t correct,black men don’t date out the most I believe that belongs to Hispanics.

  • @katexanadu7436
    @katexanadu7436 Před rokem +5

    Before we get started, I NEED details on your hair!! You've been slaying the last few videos

  • @misquestlulu7260
    @misquestlulu7260 Před rokem +9

    My thing is, why do black women keep going on these shows? Like Bretman rock once said if you don't see people that look like you on TV, change it. Also, so many people are complaining about the casting. Usually, there's a type of man that will audition for shows like this; they usually seek attention to gain some following or exposure. Men like that, especially black men, don't date black women, so by default, they're not picking any black woman. Too hard to handle, The Bachelorette or whatever rubbish show run by white people is made for a particular audience. Anybody of color on these shows is just there to fit a diversity quota; they don't really care. So we, as black people, should create our shows, so things like this will stop happening.

    • @LeratoM98
      @LeratoM98 Před rokem +5

      EXACTLY. It's like they don't mind the humiliation... I think there's a serious problem of low self esteem with those bw because no woman with a healthy amount self esteem and self worth will put herself in that position especially having observed the trend of how bw end up treated on these shows.

  • @AMFibers
    @AMFibers Před rokem +34

    As a white woman, I obviously cannot speak to this, but I've definitely noticed the same things you're mentioning here. When you were talking about the bachelor named Matt, you mentioned that his mother is white. There is some psychological research that shows that straight men tend to find women similar to their mothers as attractive. Not for any weird Freudian reason, but because their idea of what a woman is was shaped by their experience growing up. I've also noticed a trend that a lot of mixed people have a Black father and a white mother. Now, I don't know the statistics on that, it's just something that I've noticed and that I've heard Black women speak about. I could be totally wrong. But if you connect those two things - men ending up with women similar to their mothers and mixed individuals having a white mother - you end up with a situation where Black women are left out of the equation.
    Again, I could be completely wrong and would love to hear Black women's thoughts on this.

    • @SuperAnimecity
      @SuperAnimecity Před rokem

      No you're right on that. There's a massive difference psychologically between those of us who are mixed with a black mum or a black dad. I, my aunt and some family friends all have black mums and white dads, the entire family dynamic is different. Boys typically emulate the behaviours of their fathers so if a BM is dusty, the mixed sons will copy that. Look at Andrew Tate, black dad, white mum

    • @sunflowerrose
      @sunflowerrose Před rokem +28

      But even the full black men in this shows choose non black women so it would not matter if Matt was biracial or black. Black men who goes on this shows are mostly there to find a non black women. There are plenty serious black men who dates black women but would never sign up for this shows

    • @fj8992
      @fj8992 Před rokem +13

      Then how do you explain full black men chasing after women who don‘t have the same features like their mothers?

    • @Yosoydom
      @Yosoydom Před rokem +16

      Your observations are absolutely right. And coming from a mixed family myself, i have noticed that many black men that have white babymoms don’t uplift black women, and their sons (and sometimes their wives/babymoms/girlfriends as well) learn that same behavior and ultimately look at black women as being less attractive

    • @BumbleBee-wi3cf
      @BumbleBee-wi3cf Před rokem

      there has been research shown that biracial kids most of them not all would rather date white people to get white kids some marry black people because their white side of the family didn't accept them and they also desire to be black. but some black men of the west do this to get kids who are almost white passing and they be been brainwashed that their own black women aren't pretty

  • @ieshaweaver4013
    @ieshaweaver4013 Před rokem +49

    Girl your not bias, those women were beautiful! And I could not finish either! I had to jump to the last episode to see how it went because I was getting turned off! I’m glad I’m not the only one who didn’t like the show and noticed how this all went down! We need a show FOR black women!

  • @shana_mcd
    @shana_mcd Před rokem +14

    I’m so glad this is being discussed. I see love is blind is trying to pander to us black women for this upcoming season. Hopefully we’ll see these women on the show. The perfect match was so terrible I couldn’t finish the season

  • @LoLovesLife
    @LoLovesLife Před rokem +10

    Rachel Lindsay is actually the only fully black lead. Michelle Young's mom is white and Michelle identifies as a woman of color (which is fine). Two decades of a show and one black lead. Taiysha, Matt, and Michelle are all mixed race. It speaks volumes. I started watching the bachelor when Rachel was the lead but I've given up on it.

    • @ToniBryanneTV
      @ToniBryanneTV  Před rokem +3

      Yes, as I stated to many people that have informed me, I knew Michelle was mixed rave from my recollection of watching her 2 years ago, but just wanted to confirm. On google it said she had two black parents and identified as African American. But yes, definitely a problem. They did just announce the next bachelorette will be fully black. I’m confused why they are so against having black, Asian, or Latinx men being the bachelor. It’s so odd to me.

  • @hulan4631
    @hulan4631 Před rokem +6

    This interview was so honest and engaging. Your questions and her realness went hand in hand. Great video!!

  • @giftyitama5787
    @giftyitama5787 Před rokem +23

    Black women would only be seen as desirable when their men start seeing them as such. Black men don’t just like black women and their blackness but they jump through all the hoops to avoid confronting that reality and say black women’s attitude is the reason they are the least married.

    • @triggered3625
      @triggered3625 Před rokem

      Black men ain’t thinking about y’all disrespectful asses no more. Once y’all respect black men again black men would put y’all back on the pedestal.
      Y’all really salty because the non black men didn’t pick black women.

    • @shathegem
      @shathegem Před rokem

      Or how about move on from black men and go where you are appreciated.. problem solved

    • @jeffrey-Epstein00
      @jeffrey-Epstein00 Před rokem +3

      ​@@shathegem lol non bm don't "appreciate" y'all too LMAO have you seen love island??

    • @shathegem
      @shathegem Před rokem

      @@jeffrey-Epstein00 clearly you don’t live in reality loser

    • @55CINCO55
      @55CINCO55 Před 29 dny

      Black men and Asian women have a lot in common... hmmm 🤔

  • @TheresaVibess
    @TheresaVibess Před rokem +11

    When I found out this entire show was filmed in the span of 2-3 weeks I fell out cause what?? Not Dom falling in and out then back in love THAT quick 💀🤣

  • @TOFFEETASTICC
    @TOFFEETASTICC Před rokem +7

    This reminds me of the time BW were outraged about Yo Gotti and Dadusty for not including DSBW in their music video. Its sad how desperate a lot of BW are to be “picked” even though the reason for being “picked” doesn’t benefit her in the first place. BW need to make up their minds and stop contradicting themselves. We cannot be outraged about “not being picked” or “being publicly humiliated” then in the same breath complain over the “lack of diversity”. Make up your minds y’all. 😕

  • @angelr5694
    @angelr5694 Před rokem +7

    Thank you for covering this topic as the other time I've heard someone talk about this they were using misinformation and being intellectually dishonest. When I think about a show done correctly, I think about love is blind season one. A lot of the guys had initially liked, Lauren and Lauren was completely open to dating anyone.What made this even better is when they saw her they talked about how great she looked. The problem is not that that Black women are "a hard sell" they just need to open their options, be realistic, and think through what show you go on if you want to do the whole reality show thing.

  • @TayahPrice
    @TayahPrice Před rokem +42

    I loved this video, Toni! Also appreciate the interview with Deandra - she was preaching! Lol.

    • @ToniBryanneTV
      @ToniBryanneTV  Před rokem +10

      Glad you enjoyed it! Deandra was amazing!! I honestly did not expect her to be so open, but I loved it. I felt like I was talking with a friend lol

  • @edenlewis2538
    @edenlewis2538 Před rokem +8

    One show I think not many people know about that I found very interesting is called Courtship. It came out last year via Peacock. It is dating in the style of Bridgerton/Jane Austin and centers around a brown skin (some may consider dark), Nicole Remi. It had been from all different backgrounds in terms of race, ethnicity, and geography. It was interesting to watch, but I feel like most of the men were very open-minded and respectful. There were a few guys that got on my nerve but for the most part, I was pleasantly surprised. You should definitely watch it because I would love to hear your opinion.

  • @KayLyda
    @KayLyda Před rokem +2

    I'm so glad you made a video about this!

  • @kculture403
    @kculture403 Před rokem +12

    this was a very informative video and it touched a lot of important topics, it’s ashame black women (as i am one myself) are just invisible.. we’re so beautiful, and all of the women displayed were so gorgeous so it’s so sad to see how poorly treated we are on these shows! it’s so discouraging.

  • @tevingreen3908
    @tevingreen3908 Před rokem +6

    This was GREAT. I started watching Bachelor/Bachelorette content for real during Matt James’ season. This whole video very clearly expresses why I’m excited, but also a bit uncertain about my expectations for Charity’s season.

    • @ToniBryanneTV
      @ToniBryanneTV  Před 7 měsíci

      Thank you so much!! Now that Charity's season has concluded, what are your thoughts??

  • @WiredSims
    @WiredSims Před rokem +7

    Such an awesome interview!!! 👏 👏 👏

  • @bear3279
    @bear3279 Před rokem +11

    Your smile is so radiant !! Cant wait to hear what you have to say

  • @Summerkillens
    @Summerkillens Před rokem

    I’m SOOOO glad you’re talking about this because after I watched these shows I literally had to google if there were videos made on this to make sure I’m not tripping. And there aren’t many.

  • @jasminedevich3182
    @jasminedevich3182 Před rokem +10

    Girl YAS to everything that you said in this video! I watched Perfect Match briefly and was wondering if anyone else saw how the beautiful Black women on the show just got pushed to the side by the men and shunned by Nick Lachey. Thank you for bringing this to light. And that interview was on point!!! #BlackIsBeautiful #WeDeserveBetter

  • @DaddyFatSzack
    @DaddyFatSzack Před rokem +6

    Y’all have to stop with this narrative. As if the BM HAS to choose the black women. I feel that just because y’all care about the black woman, it doesn’t matter about the black man…y’all are gonna bash him anyway.
    Y’all want the black man to choose the black women, but is that woman even attracted to that man? Or do y’all just want them together just because it helps out the black woman?
    Because let me tell you, these women who are going on these shows are interested in ALL MEN, they are not going on love island because they are women who ONLY date black men and are exclusively looking for black men.
    If the roles were reversed and all the men were open to black women, would y’all be upset if the black women choose whoever she wanted out of all the men? No of course not (no one should be), it’s just that those men aren’t that open.
    So choosing a man, a black man or getting mad when a black man doesn’t choose a black women..that outrage has to stop. Because you had limited options in the first place. That is basically settling.
    When you have almost every option and choose black THEN that’s what says something!
    And this wasn’t meant to be like a bashing comment (sorry if it came across that way) we just need to be more real and honest because so many like to act like certain narratives (especially narratives like race loyalty) are true, when they really aren’t. Just like the woman said at 23:00, she wasn’t even checking for the black dudes, but upset that others weren’t looking for her. Some honesty. You are just settling, because you couldn’t get what you really wanted

  • @ReneTO
    @ReneTO Před rokem +2

    Thank you so much for making this video! Not enough people are talking about diversity and representation problems on “reality” television shows. I e been subscribed for a couple weeks, and I LOVE your channel!

    • @ToniBryanneTV
      @ToniBryanneTV  Před 7 měsíci

      Awww I am so glad you enjoyed this video!! This was something I really thought needed a discussion

  • @sophierix3041
    @sophierix3041 Před rokem +9

    Wow you’ve really stepped up your game in the last few videos 👏🏼

  • @o13sweetboy
    @o13sweetboy Před rokem +6

    I think this 'preference' word is really a cover up word to say you only love a particular race thats different from yours and really despise your own usaully among Black people.

  • @rosethompson1737
    @rosethompson1737 Před rokem +12

    I really struggled to watch the perfect match as well, it was pretty painful. I think we need to do our own version of the bachelor and perfect match etc. The house can be mixed but maybe the white cast members can be the minority for once. And very decent open minded men at that

  • @cjo4210
    @cjo4210 Před rokem +6

    We cannot expect and rely on shows produced in the white Western media to reliably portray black people and black women in good faith. We need more black funded and produced dating shows-period.

    • @sayeedharem4673
      @sayeedharem4673 Před rokem +1

      It's up to the actual ladies to raise their standards and not settle for nothing . Plenty of students study theatre and television, in college why would they not be thinking about diversity? Andy Cohen made his fortune from creating reality shows based with BLK characters the revenue is there , but I guess when your love rivals are promoted in the ads between , they are more favoured by the producers and directors .that's normal it's only BLK men that want everything easy without having to work for it

  • @sarahsayed2012
    @sarahsayed2012 Před rokem +7

    I'm so happy someone is finally talking about this because I found it weird and annoying how people who would win a challenge on perfect match and get the chance to match couples together would always try to put black people together regardless of compatibility or any other factor.