The greatest sorrow I feel as an atheist is for the children born into religion who will have to spend their lives deconstructing it, or worse yet may never escape the thought trap.
I grew up as a pastor's daughter. No regrets. My parents deep Faith is why I believe. They were true, sincere Christians. Maybe religion ruins some people, but God doesn't fail us.
@@jannawalters232 a false belief is still false no matter what sincerity with which it is believed, or how comfortably one sleepwalks through life because of it.
Same here, although I am younger and I feel like I have supreme health/vitality. I can totally understand your feelings. You probably regret many things that you didn't do because the people around you told you it wasn't God's will or your own fearful interpretation of God's will told you not to. I totally get it.
Ok and now you want to ruin others right? Go hide somewhere and cry ir what ever makes your day. No one really cares because they have their own problems.
Same, but I'm 56 now and have finally come to understand the extent to which evangelical Christianity and my strict, fundamental upbringing has damaged me. So much so that I have been unable to function as an adult human. My life has been full of failure and confusion and a deep-seated inability to function in the real world.
Then you are not seeing how it brings joy and hope to others. L'chaim! Dance! Sing! Celebrate with others this strange, weird, and wonderful mystery called being alive!
You're not stupid for what happened. There is always a feeling of guilt or loss when one realizes an ideology they put their life into is wrong. I had a long period of re-adjustment, but it ultimately led to me gaining my life back, as I'm hoping it is currently doing for you.
Having grown up in a Southern Baptist tradition and then leaving it means I can understand that moving away from religion can leave mental and emotional scars. Its not being a victim but rather the remnants of the foolishness, judgment, cluelessness, and rigid smugness about the way (especially but not exclusively) Evangelicals go about life and impose themselves and their ways on others. The problem is that "God's will" is actually their will and as a result they already have all of their answers and become entitled, self-righteous, and absolute when dealing with other people.
In my experience church ruined my ability to connect with others and with the opposite sex. I spent key years of my life around people that didn't brought anything to my life while avoiding the "world" and its people. The mistake was to think a god was going to punish me for not abiding to his every demand and wish. I spent countless years in fear and judging the christians that were living their secular lives on the side while I was crippled by the fear of eternal damnation. I was wrong and I now know just how much damage was done. All the secular events I was invited to as a highschooler that I didn't go to. All these parties that I avoided because there was going to be alcohol involved. From highschool to college, I failed to build a solid social network because the few members of my church occupied it. I screwed up, I lacked a spine and now I am trying to undo the damage and to make up for the lost time.
The perfect recipe for a disaster is spending your teenage days locked in a small community that doesn't add anything meaningful to your future. In my case, I dealt with people that ignored me and avoided me but my fear of God's wrath made me stick around. I wish I knew it sooner because I lost so many opportunities of being in the lives of people that despite not being christians are resourceful and good people. Christianity or at least how I experienced it just narrowed my opportunities. I am a naturally fearful individual so religious teachings about hell were big deterrents to go out and party ,skipping church to do other activities and meeting new people.
Salvation is "Free" and then Comes the HUGE PRICE you have to Pay for it, Every Pain, Suffering, Betrayal, God ignoring your prayers, Betrayal and Hate inside the Church, your enemies winning over you, a God that has No Mercy on You, a God that Sees You Suffering and Crying tears but Just ignores You, a God who doesn't protect you from Any Evil Ever!!!, a God gives you more difficulty than Peace, and is ALL for his Glory.
@@nothingevenmatters771; I'm sorry, Ashley, I wish I didn't have to write all that stuff, but the weird thing is how God treats those who are doing Right, but Rewards All those who are doing Wrong. Just look at the Jada & Will Smith's case, do you have an idea how many "marriages" I've encountered in my own life where the Wife is just like Jada?? Many, so many that I lost count, but Yet their husbands are just like Will Smith, have them living in the Best Houses, and I mean giving them the Best Homes, the Best Cars, the Best lifestyle, but all the women who are Caring, loving mothers, and truly Love their husband and are Faithful Wives, whom do God gives them as Husbands?? The Worst Crap there is walking the Face of this Earth. And all the single mothers, who are Amazing Women, and truly desire for life to Bless them with a Good Man in their lives, and what they Get? The Crap of this Earth, and they PRAY for Years, but God always ignores their Prayers for a Good Husband as if they, plus they get discriminated along with their kids everywhere they Go, as if God damned them for being Courageous women.
@@nothingevenmatters771 I hope You are feeling better. Just Love Yourself, and do Not trust Anyone, not even family members, and know that You are alone, is a lesson that I had to learn, and Love Yourself and only trust in Yourself, there is no one else for you out there.
@@nothingevenmatters771; Be Strong Girl, you are too beautiful, and don't fail yourself, because You is All that You Got. My whole life, I've been trusting God, only to find out that He never Cared.
Christianity cost me my mental and physical health, beaten almost to death by ex husbands (divorced twice ) i thought it was God's will for me to be perpetually beaten up,so i stayed with my husband at the time untill i just couldn't take it anymore, now im bed bound and partially disabled with health problems because of them,and the fear and anxiety that the bible has caused;especially about HELL FOREVER and lake of fire ,just shows GOD is sick cruel and evil.
I can really sympathize and relate to what you've said here. I had two husbands as well. One was a wife beater, and the other was an alcoholic. I was completely housebound and bedridden for almost a year, and am climbing my way back out of that little by little. I came from not just a broken home, but a broken family, and was raised in a very strict, fearsome religion where all we heard about was "hell forever", too. About thirty years ago, I stopped going to all churches, and 20 years ago I left religion altogether, but have found my way to the gentle and loving Heavenly Father that we don't learn about in the old testament of the bible. That is not Him. If we believe that's him, then we will have very poor and very weak faith, always wondering if he's out to get us or strike us down with some problem, to teach us a lesson or whatever. That's the one Jesus Christ called the ruler of this world whom He had come to destroy and cast out. There are some channels that helped with this discovery and restoration, one being Love Unrelenting, and another is Good God, both on CZcams. Together they clear things up, and I am healing from the spiritual abuse and mental torment I suffered with for decades. I hope you are encouraged by this, and that you will find relief and the love you deserve.
I got severely depressed everytime God has been mentioned in my life I need to cleanse my life of Jesus cause he is not God to me anymore I realized he’s what’s tormenting me 👎🏼
Religion is about control, nothing more. Whether or not it be by members of the religion, or the universe, do not touch religion, or spirituality. Trust me, your ego is better and more reliable than God
Santa Claus, the easter bunny, the tooth fairy, the great pumpkin and finally god after about 30 years. My life is so much better without all the indoctrination, grooming and grifting from early childhood by the church.
A lot of people say they left Christianity and were never in Christianity in the first place, and have no idea how to go about being a part of it. I repented, was baptized by immersion in water, according to Acts 2:38, and was filled with the Holy Ghost speaking in unknown tongue just like they did in the tenth chapter of Acts. I received the revelation that Jesus Christ was God Almighty in the flesh the only supreme God there is or ever will be. Jesus said, in John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Some finally figure out that they were duped.
Because I loved, respected and wanted to please my parents, who were both religious, I lost at least 90% of my childhood Sundays with the most boring 2 hours of the week. Then, my Dad died suddenly with a volent heart attack, at 46 years old, when I was just 16. My mum lived a long enough life, but died very unhappy and in great pain. My parents gave me LIFE and I will forever love and thank them for this. But 'God' took my Dad away from my when he was still young and when I neeed him most, and I cried for several years for the loss of my Mum.... who, on her penultimate day of life said "God has abandoned me". either he does not exist at all, which is the most likely scenario, or , if by some chance he did, then he is slack and useless, doing nothing to intervene with great wrongs and atrocities carried out by mahy people against many others.... then we move onto disease, famine and a planet under threat of burning up. I am 65 now. I still resent all those lost Sundays, I will continue to miss my Dad to my dying day.... and grieve for my Mum who suffered too long and too lonely... i have nothing to thank any 'god' for.... anyone who beleves in a god is sadly deluded, more likely extremely brainwashed..... I would only think about taking up religion if I had a direct 'sign'... not from any human, but of a divine nature. Still waiting for such....
Would any of you be willing to talk to me about anybout this. I struggle with major depressive disorder and religious trauma and am trying like hell to learn to heal from it all.
Religion can be super influential, and after 20+ yrs of being a Christian, I realized I had been bamboozled. I hate religion and Christianity today and hate that I wasted so many yrs of my life on all the b.s. it persuaded me to believe.
I follow Jesus and find Christianity every bit as reasonable as atheism/agnosticism. For me, it's always been a thinking faith. You seem like a thoughtful guy. I know of some Christian groups that don't like questions - and it sounds like that may be where you were - but the ones I hang with love the arts, exploring quandaries and questions, digging into science, and the life of the mind.
All religions are men-made with gorgeous enticing doctrines, dogmas, creeds, teachings, rules, rituals, traditions, mannerisms and gestures - with deceiving and self-deceiving - and love of power to control people.. Each one better to make one's own religion to serve one's own God - other than God of the Bible, God of religions, God Jesus, etc.
God is the embodiment of everything in nature. That is why we can say God (nature) was there, is there, and will always be there. You cannot use science or theology to show the beginning of the beginning or the first God. To create an Omnipotent God, you need a more complex Omnipotent God. It goes on and on and on. Who is the first God is an unanswerable question. In nature anything and everything has to have a simple beginning and then evolve to be complex. The universe starting simple and expanding and evolving to be more complex is intellectually acceptable than an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, benevolent Creator Being, pulling strings from the beginning. One who tries to argue and prove that the God in his book created everything, pitifully lacks understanding? Since God is the embodiment of everything in nature, ask yourself “Can God give books to humans?” Different contradicting books to different tribes. These different books sometimes contradict violently. All books are written by people and are based on their narrow understanding of the contemporary world. They had no idea of Galaxies or microbes. They believed that their God created a Geocentric Universe and the Sun orbits around the Earth. They believed that plagues are divine punishments.
Take anything from nature. Can electricity, gravity or magnetism give you a book? No, but you investigate and learn about natural phenomena, and you write books about them. Does the electric motor work differently for followers of xyz religion? Does Penicillin work differently for followers of pqr religion? When giant Tsunami waves came, they swept away the whole kindergarten full of children belonging to all kind of religions. This is the way of God (nature). I am more comfortable with the Buddhist belief of Dependant Origination (cause and effect). The Law of Causation states that whatever is, must have a cause. Suggesting also that, if there is a thing or an event, then there will be an effect that will inevitably follow from that thing or event. Unwholesome actions will lead to unwholesome results and wholesome actions lead to wholesome results. We create our own Karma, as reflected in our destiny. It is vital that we respect rational, secular, humanist values. It really does not matter, which religion you follow, or which book you read. If you are good, you are good. By being good, what I mean, is living without causing any harm or pain, physical or mental, to any beings sensitive to pain. If there is a place called heaven where all good people destined to go, you will go there regardless of your denomination or religious label. This theory eliminates the need to argue and prove the unprovable, while we are on earth. The only requirement to reach the heaven is to be good. It is futile trying to prove if heaven and hell exist or whether there is life after death, which God in which book is the right one. Isn’t this a very beautiful belief? Though, I cannot prove to you the veracity of this belief, just like you cannot prove the veracity of your religious belief to me, I accept this as the most plausible. Kalama Sutra: Do not accept things just because they are being repeated, or come from tradition, scriptures, rumor, guesswork, incorrect reasoning, and a bias towards the subject, clever oration or mere respect for the teacher or speaker. When you know for yourself that something leads to harm and sorrow and is not welcomed by the wise, then abandon it. The same text, said the Buddha, must be applied to his own teachings. Thanks for reading. Lal Fernando Lal.fernando@gmail.com
I grew up in 7th Day Adventism... the God doesn't give life to just anyone eho believes in him. You have to follow everything the Bible says too... strictly!
me too but I still believe in God. I grew up Catholic but it caused severe depression. I understand. It doesn't allow birth control for women and as a kid all they talked about was going to hell. It ruined my sex life in highschool
You’re mad at God but He isn’t mad at you… His heart is just broken that you don’t see how much He loves you. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and if you can repent and put your faith in HIM (not a religion), He will grant you the free gift of everlasting life!
You are projecting and using a strawman argument. Atheism means to reject non-evidentiary god-claims... that's it. It's absurd to claim it's a matter of being mad at a god, because there's simply no evidence that proves one exists.
Religion impedes your ability to be spiritual. God is way to categorized and is misunderstood. By the rules of religion, any and all human interpretation if blasphemy.. So it's self contradicting. Bibles teach morals but spirituality can't be learned.
I feel your pain man but blaming religion for ruining your life? that's ridiculous. you allowed religion to ruin your life. it's not religions fault. all religion sucks and is based on bullshit. I gave thousands of dollars to the only time I was really involved with the church but I did not blame the church and I did not blame religion. I blame myself. I haven't watched your second video yet I'm getting ready to do that. so far I don't see how you could blame religion though.
Thats... really weird. You seem to imply you have already found your way out, but still defend religion? That is literally victim blaming, religions use incredibly dishonest and immoral tactics to propagate themselves, for example the most commonly commited and endorsed version of child abuse, indoctrination. Religion is a cancer, and humanity is its victim, theists are victims of an idea that was only able to survive because the entire thing of the idea is to poison, bent, twist and break the victims brain into believing impossible nonsenical absurdities for no, and against all reason.
I am not religious, but do you give credit for your orthodox religion reforming and organizing your culture? We know it's better than what ever preceded it. A Christian nation will be more civilized and have better hospitals than a non Christian one. A humanist society still has sins to punish, but in a humanist society, you will never be forgiven.
Humanism isn't about forgiveness. It's about keeping people happy and safe. Religion was never about that in the first place. It has zero empathy for its victims.
This post is about how atheism ruined my life. It denied the only true Kking of Kings Jesus Christ and suppressed the truth and tried to hide the True Light. It made a already sad life look even more hopeless until I found salvation in Jesus Christ. Darkness cannot extinguish the Light. I love to pray to God in the name of Jesus and get up and go to work and tell people of hope in Jesus! God is good!
Why are you all like cancer…?!spreading to the parts of the world that has already gone through healing and recovery? Everywhere I turn, when I’m seeking truth, knowledge and practical understanding..here you come with your toxic, malignant beliefs onto happy and healthy individuals…it’s like you can’t stand that someone else is happy --everyone else must suffer with you and your Jesus evilness …if you are a sinner everyone else must be punished tooo!!! The narcissism is showing. No one else can share their truth without you turning it around to me me meeeeee…this video is about how MY life is ruined by no-god wahhhhh wahhh …
@@ZachariahMorningstar Facts are based on credible and verifable evidence that proves something is true. There is no such evidence for any god, so you've made a non-evidentiary claim. You may be entitled to an opinion, but not your own definition of a fact.
The problem is people base a walk with Christ with others and their actions. Do your own reading of the Bible. Remember the only way the devil can hurt God is by hurting you. Our forefathers choose to create and participate in evil. Because they choose to be disobedient to God. God said don't put our hand in the fire because it will permanently hurt you. And we choose to do it anyway. However God does not do any of these bad things to you. It is people who choose this. In the Bible God says that the world is fallen and that there will be trails and tribulations. But as long as you truly make Jesus your Lord. You truly have faith in Him. You truly read His word and talk to Him(prayer) that you will be with Him in eternal and everlasting life. Never to go through another bad thing again. Stop basing a walk with Christ on people and their actions just because they claim to be something or claim to know something and lead you the wrong way. Base it off of God's word and what He does for you specifically. He loves you. He wants you. And He is waiting for you. Please just give it some thought. Religion and organization usually ruins a lot of people's lives because it is tainted with human judgement and management. Government fails us all the time. God however does not fail. If anyone has a question I would love to answer. I just want you all to be my brothers and sisters and get this peace I have to
These posts are proving his point. He never said he was basing it on people and their actions, he said he started to see the problems in the Bible. Can you just leave people alone? This is likely a completely crazy out of control cult at this point. Like zombies.
Sir you don't give your name....You say you were naive and that you are now embarrassed as a result. I want to say at the outset I agree with you that religion is at times devastating; and I find it…. I won’t say offensive necessarily, but I will say divisive. You have clearly been able to enter into an experience journey through and emerge….and you are here with something to say about the experience something to offer others in order that they may by your caution avoid traveling the same road. There should not be any embarrassment in that. What after all is life but a journey from one experience to the other? I suspect most of those who have commented and perhaps you as well are atheists. For the sake of transparency I will say at the beginning I am a Christian. I have spent time looking into various…. lets call them sects…..SDA, JW, Mormonism, Catholicism, I could go on the list is extensive even within the pale of orthodoxy. I however do not find that any of these groups or religious positions are capable of expounding on scripture, at least in a consistent and satisfactory scene. There may be a certain number of adherents within some of these groups that I would call Christian, currently searching that will in time leave these organisations but none of the organizations themselves are what I would call the church. They are counterfeits, but even if there are a thousand false gospels that cannot invalidate the one true gospel, it just makes it much more difficult to find. I watched part 1 and 2. I looked for 3 and didn’t find it. You don’t ultimately claim your conclusion is there is no God nor do you say Yeshua is not the Messiah. You don’t actually seem to draw any conclusions and you are not specific in terms of the damages you suffered. I will say that I did not have any problem with the question you posed out of Genesis. I would be happy to spend what time is necessary to answer you and would enjoy engaging you in conversation that has no other goal on my part than to help you find some of the clarity you said you went looking for. I don’t represent any organized religion. I have been involved with a few and experienced many of the same frustrations you point out. I always reframed from ponying up as it were. Not that I wasn’t willing to support the work of God but wanted to be sure that was in fact what I would be doing and honestly in the end never felt that would have been the case. So here I am on line doing what I can to dispel the misconceptions of many as to what Christianity is and what it is not. The first point I would make is that if God is real as any professing Christian would claim and powerful and interested in His children as we are identified as such the most reasonable assumption anyone could draw from that is experimentally He should be obvious…. My sheep know My voice; plainly ….A Christian, any Christian, every Christian, hears Him speak and I would say that many who would not claim to be Christian do hear Him perhaps without realizing it, and many that attend churches small c and identify as Christian don’t hear Him and would think to do so really unimaginable. So many that are called do not say I am Christian and many that are not are in church every Sunday but never saved. The second point I would make is that Biblical Christianity is the only kind there is. If an organization has added to scripture or taken away from it they are not Christian….All the groups I mentioned earlier do exactly that. So it is not about my opinion or yours or theirs. God either is or is not and scripture is the source of the claim….it can either defend itself or not and must absolutely be the only arbiter, only defining source. Just as Islam must be fully reliant on the Quran, Buddhism on the noble teachings. A person can take all of these and mix them about together forming something they ultimately find more satisfying but it will then be none of them. So if you ask a question I will give an answer from scripture or not at all. That said the third and final point I would make is that there are certain scholars that would present a picture of scripture as less than fully reliable and I would agree. Not that we don’t have the inerrant word of God but that that word is not necessarily found in a KJ version. So the scriptural sources I may draw on might have to go back to the original Greek, they might be based on the Septuagint rather than the Masoretic. I will though always give you my source and how to find it yourself. I am willing to present a reasoned case I am not willing to banter argue or put up with childish comments.
@@AK-gk6sd I can't know what you may or may not find clear but I can say that to be a man of religion is not the same thing as it is to be a Christian. However most confuse the one with the other. I don't and my comment was intended to differentiate between these two widely diffrent things in a world where blindness has taken the place of wisdom. Religion is an undertaking of men, involving definate practices intended to illicit a response from God. A God those involved never know. Christianity is an act of God where men are reborn spirituality and as such have living in them a Devine nature. They know God and are known by God. They do not act like they know God or attempt to curry His favor. They are His children and as such have His attention every day they are alive, at the time of their passing, and beyond. They live with the promise of the kingdom. One of these states is good, and should be desired, the other pretends to be and is a scourge. My desire is to make that clear to those lost within a faulse gospel. They believe in God of whom they have heard but do not know. If they love religion so be it, but if they love God, truth, and desire to know Him, to honestly hear Him, I want them to understand that posability exists, but is not realized through religion. Faith is a gift we receive from God through an encounter with Him. A thing that should be reasonable to anyone that claims God is real, God is powerful, God is their Father. Most though who attend a religious service while agreeing with all the statements made do not find it normal to hear Him. Not normal because most never have. Not normal becaues many that claim they have are clearly not Christian. Not normal because while they have a form of godliness they deny the power there of. I am not here to preach, I have nothing to sell, and the child of God has the Spirit and no need of my time. I am here to give a testimony. To say God is real, He is powerful, He is personal, and He is not found in religion, He is found in person. Accept it or don't, that's your call I have no stake in either.
You sir with your biblical absolutes and supposed infallibilities and "god's will" crutch ARE part of the problem. Spouting the same nonsense and closed minded foolishness that I've always heard. Nothing new here to see. Please just go away and leave us alone with your "high and mighty" long worded nonsense. We've had enough of you and your kind. Go away please. You still present it as if your version of God and Jesus, etc are the only absolutes and the only truth based on your "understanding of scripture" which is a big part of the problem. Go away now please. You cause more problems and trouble for other people than you can imagine with the hot air billowing from your lungs like self-minded politicians. Leave us alone.
When you stand before God on judgment day, all the excuses in the world won't matter. The important question will be: What did you do with Jesus? Did you accept Him as your Savior, repent of your sins, live a Christian life by following God's word? Rejecting "religion" is fine. But don't reject the One Who gave Himself as a sacrifice for your sins so that you could enter heaven.
I don't know if loving Jesus is wrong because if it is, I don't want to be right. Jesus is the way the truth and the life, no one goes to the father except through him. John 14:6 People, you have free will to believe whatever way you want to. God gives that to you. Don't believe, do believe, it's your choice. God loves you and wants you to spend eternity with him, but if you don't want to, he gives you an alternative. He allows you to spend eternity with Satan instead. So, no big deal.......
If god is omniscient and omnipresent that would take away from the whole concept of free will and the whole thing of not choosing to want to spend eternity under the feet of some thin skinned egotistical unstable deity makes the alternative seem to be the lesser of two evils!
@@runantelope4239if they leave then leave it’s all good I don’t understand why when someone says ya if you leave it’s ok you can be with Satan I mean don’t atheists and ex Christian usually hype with screams of happiness that they’d love Satan more anyways so what’s the problem
@@AllUKLuv first I don't have a creator so NO. Secondly a CEO of a company cannot do whatever they want because of regulating laws that guide the business world and the laws of physics that will not allow a said CEO to disappear into thin air or jump 30 feet in the air or fly without some mechanical aid! That is a really dumb analogy!
“I have Regret regarding my stupidity for being indoctrinated.“ • It just seems your heart was already hardened and you also didn’t have a good teacher. • Your arrogance of sin and negligence for the Love and faith of Christ is evident imo. • Praying for you
For a people who claim to be so enlightened and intelligent, you all are so deluded when it comes to a belife in God or something bigger. Religion is a construct of man used to focus their belife of a higher power. With it being made of man, it is subjected to all the horrible flaws man can muster. To say you have given up on God because of a flawed religion is weak.
@@AllUKLuv in reference to the christian deity I would say that I wouldn't care one of the other. If this deity is real and if the description of it is real according to the Bible then I would want nothing to do with it, if it's not real then all is well!
Faith does not mean "Belief without evidence". That is the wrong definition of faith. For me, faith is like trusting, obeying and relying on God no matter what, even if you do not understand His ways and His plans, even if His plans and His ways do not seem to make sense to you, even if you do not understand God. Let me us this illustration: Imagine if you had a father who is a professional driver, and He is very good at driving cars. One day, you needed to move to a new school. So your father decided to drive you to school. You do not know the way to your new school, you do not know how a car works, you do not know how to drive a car, you do not know where the school is located at. But you trust in your father and hope that he would deliver you to your new school safely. That is kind of like what faith is. It is trusting and relying on something no matter what, even if you do not understand it. To be honest, I feel so bad for you and I hope that you will come back to Christ.
But if you never saw of heard from a man called your father, that would be weird to trust he would take you to school. Totally non comparable situation.
@@newnoggin2 To start, The Bible itself does not even teach blind faith; The Bible teaches that faith and reason are compatible and must support each other. In Acts 17:1-4, we read that when Paul entered the synagogue in Thessalonica, he debated and reasoned with the Jews using the Scriptures in order to convince them that Jesus is the Messiah, and that He died for our sins and rose from the dead. Paul didn't just tell the Jews to just blindly believe in what he preached to them without any evidence; he used arguments and apologetics (Reasoning with the Jews using the Scriptures) in order to convince them that the Gospel is true. In Acts 19:8-10, we see a similar passage which states that Paul debated with the Jews and reasoned with them about the things concerning the Kingdom of God. In 1 Peter 3:15, Peter writes that we Christians must always be prepared to give an answer to those who ask us for the reason of the hope that is in us. Based on these passages in The Bible, it is clear that The Bible does not teach that faith is belief without evidence; that we should just blindly believe in the doctrines of Christianity, such as the existence of God, the resurrection of Christ etc. without any evidence at all. Faith is not the absence of evidence; it is the result or the effect of evidence. Evidence leads to credibility, and credibility leads to faith. Evidence is the seed of faith; evidence is the beginning of faith. For instance, we know that everything that Jesus said or taught must be true because He is God, and we know that He is God because of the historical evidence for His resurrection from the dead. In this example, the resurrection of Christ is the evidence, which leads to the conclusion that Jesus is God; which is credibility. Then, we have faith in whatever Jesus says; we have faith that all of His sayings are true, on account of His credibility, which is demonstrated apart from faith by evidence alone. Evidence begets credibility, and credibility begets faith.
So sad and unfortunate, many people failed to find good spiritual life through Jesus! Why is it so difficult for many people to love God and love their neighbours? Jesus gives peaceful and joyful life through the feeling of love our God and love our neighbours. If one does these, one won't blame the religion for one's miserable life!!!
Excuse me, you come off as so smug. Obviously, you did not grow up in a terrifying religious environment where salvation was always in question and images of hellfire were very real. Why don't you show some empathy instead of pious judgment.
@@sulongenjop7436 I appreciate your comment because I believe you are sincere. I also envy you if you have found peace with God. In my case, my belief in Jesus is what led to all my mental problems. I grew up with constant salvation and rapture anxiety because of my Pentecostal upbringing. I believe most atheists grew up in this type of environment. We simply get tired of being scared.
@@omartorrio1512 Trust in and submit to Jesus wholeheartedly to God's/Jesus's will without feeling of excited and anxiety. Badmouthing and hatred to others can make our life stressful and unpeaceful because one is loveless of God.
Jesus is the only way to heaven, not manmade religion. You were so consumed by man made traditions that your life became a mess. If you truly want to get saved, all you have to do is to admit that you are a sinner, believe on the LORD Jesus Christ, and call upon his name with a contrite heart sincerely, he WILL save you from hell. If you choose to get truly saved, Jesus will fill that void in your heart, for he filled the gap that was in my heart after I got out of Babylon (Roman Catholicism).
But isn’t Roman Catholic the first church after Jerusalem Church Also Jesus said his own church will turn against him and go through tribulations which the Roman Catholic Church is currently going through as it’s the most wicked
@@AllUKLuv NO. The roman catholic church was actually created by satan through emperor Constantine in 313 AD. Jesus calls the Roman Catholic Church the great whore of Babylon. The Roman Catholic Church, eastern/oriental orthodox churches, and eastern rite Catholic Churches were made to counterfeit the REAL Body of Christ.
I have seen and interacted with souls on the other side. Jesus can be a way, but not the only way. If Jesus works for you and allows you to be your best, then rock on. The afterlife is not so black and white, heaven or hell. Through the powers found within one's brain, we can go where we desire in the after-life. There is more on how to do this, I just don't have the time to explain.
You chat wit the wrong guy God allow me to remember when he create my soul and jesus IS the only way your wishfull thinking will bring you into darkness because God is light And Jesus is the expresion of the father.@@patrickfoley6215
The greatest sorrow I feel as an atheist is for the children born into religion who will have to spend their lives deconstructing it, or worse yet may never escape the thought trap.
Exactly
A thought trap indeed. As one speaker expressed, religion is a form of child abuse.
I grew up as a pastor's daughter. No regrets. My parents deep Faith is why I believe. They were true, sincere Christians. Maybe religion ruins some people, but God doesn't fail us.
@@jannawalters232 a false belief is still false no matter what sincerity with which it is believed, or how comfortably one sleepwalks through life because of it.
@@halcyonzenith4411life cannot come from non life. Creation needs to have a creator 100% of the time. Jesus loves you!
It has destroyed my life from childhood and now I'm nearly 35 and unable to render the past
@Loriane You can say I am also trying to recover from those teachings! I feel I have been restricted by religion. Are you happy now?
@@subramaniannk3364 very happy finding out the truth in the Bible and Jesus
Same here, although I am younger and I feel like I have supreme health/vitality. I can totally understand your feelings. You probably regret many things that you didn't do because the people around you told you it wasn't God's will or your own fearful interpretation of God's will told you not to. I totally get it.
Ok and now you want to ruin others right? Go hide somewhere and cry ir what ever makes your day. No one really cares because they have their own problems.
Same, but I'm 56 now and have finally come to understand the extent to which evangelical Christianity and my strict, fundamental upbringing has damaged me. So much so that I have been unable to function as an adult human. My life has been full of failure and confusion and a deep-seated inability to function in the real world.
I can feel your pain, hate religion too.
It's no better than believing in Zeus but the good thing is that religion is dying
Religion makes me sad and makes me fear
Then you are not seeing how it brings joy and hope to others.
L'chaim! Dance! Sing! Celebrate with others this strange, weird, and wonderful mystery called being alive!
You're not stupid for what happened. There is always a feeling of guilt or loss when one realizes an ideology they put their life into is wrong. I had a long period of re-adjustment, but it ultimately led to me gaining my life back, as I'm hoping it is currently doing for you.
Sir or mam, how did you do this , I never thought I could fall for something like this , how did you get your life back
Religion is pure poison. I wish I had the thousands and thousands of hours back that I invested in faith and prayer. What a total waste of time!
Jesus loves you!
@@colepiercemusic And if you don't love him back he sends you to Hell forever. No Thanks.
exactly
@@colepiercemusic Jesus says love me or burn in Hell. That's blackmail not love. Go away liar.
@@MrKit9who else loves you in this universe? Because other humans who say they do actually don’t
Having grown up in a Southern Baptist tradition and then leaving it means I can understand that moving away from religion can leave mental and emotional scars. Its not being a victim but rather the remnants of the foolishness, judgment, cluelessness, and rigid smugness about the way (especially but not exclusively) Evangelicals go about life and impose themselves and their ways on others. The problem is that "God's will" is actually their will and as a result they already have all of their answers and become entitled, self-righteous, and absolute when dealing with other people.
In my experience church ruined my ability to connect with others and with the opposite sex. I spent key years of my life around people that didn't brought anything to my life while avoiding the "world" and its people. The mistake was to think a god was going to punish me for not abiding to his every demand and wish. I spent countless years in fear and judging the christians that were living their secular lives on the side while I was crippled by the fear of eternal damnation. I was wrong and I now know just how much damage was done. All the secular events I was invited to as a highschooler that I didn't go to. All these parties that I avoided because there was going to be alcohol involved. From highschool to college, I failed to build a solid social network because the few members of my church occupied it. I screwed up, I lacked a spine and now I am trying to undo the damage and to make up for the lost time.
@@JorgeFernandoHernandez-Orantes I can relate to much of what you say.
Well said. I had a horrible religious upbringing which basically ruined my life.
The perfect recipe for a disaster is spending your teenage days locked in a small community that doesn't add anything meaningful to your future. In my case, I dealt with people that ignored me and avoided me but my fear of God's wrath made me stick around. I wish I knew it sooner because I lost so many opportunities of being in the lives of people that despite not being christians are resourceful and good people. Christianity or at least how I experienced it just narrowed my opportunities. I am a naturally fearful individual so religious teachings about hell were big deterrents to go out and party ,skipping church to do other activities and meeting new people.
Salvation is "Free" and then Comes the HUGE PRICE you have to Pay for it, Every Pain, Suffering, Betrayal, God ignoring your prayers, Betrayal and Hate inside the Church, your enemies winning over you, a God that has No Mercy on You, a God that Sees You Suffering and Crying tears but Just ignores You, a God who doesn't protect you from Any Evil Ever!!!, a God gives you more difficulty than Peace, and is ALL for his Glory.
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I totally agree Jennifer
@@nothingevenmatters771; I'm sorry, Ashley, I wish I didn't have to write all that stuff, but the weird thing is how God treats those who are doing Right, but Rewards All those who are doing Wrong. Just look at the Jada & Will Smith's case, do you have an idea how many "marriages" I've encountered in my own life where the Wife is just like Jada?? Many, so many that I lost count, but Yet their husbands are just like Will Smith, have them living in the Best Houses, and I mean giving them the Best Homes, the Best Cars, the Best lifestyle, but all the women who are Caring, loving mothers, and truly Love their husband and are Faithful Wives, whom do God gives them as Husbands?? The Worst Crap there is walking the Face of this Earth. And all the single mothers, who are Amazing Women, and truly desire for life to Bless them with a Good Man in their lives, and what they Get? The Crap of this Earth, and they PRAY for Years, but God always ignores their Prayers for a Good Husband as if they, plus they get discriminated along with their kids everywhere they Go, as if God damned them for being Courageous women.
@@nothingevenmatters771 I hope You are feeling better. Just Love Yourself, and do Not trust Anyone, not even family members, and know that You are alone, is a lesson that I had to learn, and Love Yourself and only trust in Yourself, there is no one else for you out there.
@@nothingevenmatters771; Be Strong Girl, you are too beautiful, and don't fail yourself, because You is All that You Got. My whole life, I've been trusting God, only to find out that He never Cared.
Christianity cost me my mental and physical health, beaten almost to death by ex husbands (divorced twice ) i thought it was God's will for me to be perpetually beaten up,so i stayed with my husband at the time untill i just couldn't take it anymore, now im bed bound and partially disabled with health problems because of them,and the fear and anxiety that the bible has caused;especially about HELL FOREVER and lake of fire ,just shows GOD is sick cruel and evil.
I can really sympathize and relate to what you've said here. I had two husbands as well. One was a wife beater, and the other was an alcoholic. I was completely housebound and bedridden for almost a year, and am climbing my way back out of that little by little. I came from not just a broken home, but a broken family, and was raised in a very strict, fearsome religion where all we heard about was "hell forever", too.
About thirty years ago, I stopped going to all churches, and 20 years ago I left religion altogether, but have found my way to the gentle and loving Heavenly Father that we don't learn about in the old testament of the bible. That is not Him. If we believe that's him, then we will have very poor and very weak faith, always wondering if he's out to get us or strike us down with some problem, to teach us a lesson or whatever. That's the one Jesus Christ called the ruler of this world whom He had come to destroy and cast out.
There are some channels that helped with this discovery and restoration, one being Love Unrelenting, and another is Good God, both on CZcams. Together they clear things up, and I am healing from the spiritual abuse and mental torment I suffered with for decades. I hope you are encouraged by this, and that you will find relief and the love you deserve.
Christianity is a cult; a very dangerous one.
@@revanvonheaven8270 bro just shut up
@@revanvonheaven8270how would you know ? Do you know God ?
Omg shut up, ur lying. Another victimized woman seeking attention. Shame on u
I had a great life til religion came along....Recently got happy again...
I got severely depressed everytime God has been mentioned in my life I need to cleanse my life of Jesus cause he is not God to me anymore I realized he’s what’s tormenting me 👎🏼
I was raised super religoius and even today i have so much relgiious trauma and i almost always have an identity crisis
I love leaving christianity and religion myself
Religion is about control, nothing more. Whether or not it be by members of the religion, or the universe, do not touch religion, or spirituality. Trust me, your ego is better and more reliable than God
Santa Claus, the easter bunny, the tooth fairy, the great pumpkin and finally god after about 30 years. My life is so much better without all the indoctrination, grooming and grifting from early childhood by the church.
Religion breaks your thinker.
Very true. Religion and rational thought are mutually exclusive terms
@@freethinker2350 Bingo. Faith is, by definition, irrational.
I am a fundamentalist atheist. I question everything.
You are a brave and honest mind. Bravo!
Where ignorance is bliss religion thrives - Shytot-1
There is a "religion" which does not need deconstruction: Life is miraculous, and is neither meaningless nor pointless.
A lot of people say they left Christianity and were never in Christianity in the first place, and have no idea how to go about being a part of it. I repented, was baptized by immersion in water, according to Acts 2:38, and was filled with the Holy Ghost speaking in unknown tongue just like they did in the tenth chapter of Acts. I received the revelation that Jesus Christ was God Almighty in the flesh the only supreme God there is or ever will be. Jesus said, in John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Some finally figure out that they were duped.
So you adopted some ideas, then changed your mind. How exactly was your life ruined? I see no link to a part 2. Kinda silly dude.
Because I loved, respected and wanted to please my parents, who were both religious, I lost at least 90% of my childhood Sundays with the most boring 2 hours of the week. Then, my Dad died suddenly with a volent heart attack, at 46 years old, when I was just 16. My mum lived a long enough life, but died very unhappy and in great pain. My parents gave me LIFE and I will forever love and thank them for this. But 'God' took my Dad away from my when he was still young and when I neeed him most, and I cried for several years for the loss of my Mum.... who, on her penultimate day of life said "God has abandoned me". either he does not exist at all, which is the most likely scenario, or , if by some chance he did, then he is slack and useless, doing nothing to intervene with great wrongs and atrocities carried out by mahy people against many others.... then we move onto disease, famine and a planet under threat of burning up. I am 65 now. I still resent all those lost Sundays, I will continue to miss my Dad to my dying day.... and grieve for my Mum who suffered too long and too lonely... i have nothing to thank any 'god' for.... anyone who beleves in a god is sadly deluded, more likely extremely brainwashed..... I would only think about taking up religion if I had a direct 'sign'... not from any human, but of a divine nature. Still waiting for such....
Would any of you be willing to talk to me about anybout this. I struggle with major depressive disorder and religious trauma and am trying like hell to learn to heal from it all.
Sure, if you still want something like this, i could provide you a perspective on those issues from the viewpoint of someone that was never religious.
Sure dude. Np
Jesus didn't enforce his teachings on others. An unmatched freedom that nations missed.
Wish you all the best, mate!
Religion can be super influential, and after 20+ yrs of being a Christian, I realized I had been bamboozled. I hate religion and Christianity today and hate that I wasted so many yrs of my life on all the b.s. it persuaded me to believe.
Religion ruined my relationship with my fam, my gf, everything. I just want to be happy but religion forbid it. Hilarious
I had a problem with Religion Harm , and the many crimes those with the Bribe money commented !
Tired of spiritual journeys i let them go by themselves finding themselves for themselves
Well said brotha👍🏼
I follow Jesus and find Christianity every bit as reasonable as atheism/agnosticism. For me, it's always been a thinking faith. You seem like a thoughtful guy. I know of some Christian groups that don't like questions - and it sounds like that may be where you were - but the ones I hang with love the arts, exploring quandaries and questions, digging into science, and the life of the mind.
You've put yourself in mental bondage.
@@angelslayer169 Can't you guys EVER EVER stop? The fact that you can't leave this man alone proves how sick this is.
@@joecheffo5942 No Atheists go knocking on doors and stop people in the park to deliver any :messages" dude.
All religions are men-made with gorgeous enticing doctrines, dogmas, creeds, teachings, rules, rituals, traditions, mannerisms and gestures - with deceiving and self-deceiving - and love of power to control people.. Each one better to make one's own religion to serve one's own God - other than God of the Bible, God of religions, God Jesus, etc.
God is the embodiment of everything in nature. That is why we can say God (nature) was there, is there, and will always be there. You cannot use science or theology to show the beginning of the beginning or the first God.
To create an Omnipotent God, you need a more complex Omnipotent God. It goes on and on and on. Who is the first God is an unanswerable question.
In nature anything and everything has to have a simple beginning and then evolve to be complex. The universe starting simple and expanding and evolving to be more complex is intellectually acceptable than an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, benevolent Creator Being, pulling strings from the beginning.
One who tries to argue and prove that the God in his book created everything, pitifully lacks understanding?
Since God is the embodiment of everything in nature, ask yourself “Can God give books to humans?” Different contradicting books to different tribes. These different books sometimes contradict violently.
All books are written by people and are based on their narrow understanding of the contemporary world. They had no idea of Galaxies or microbes. They believed that their God created a Geocentric Universe and the Sun orbits around the Earth. They believed that plagues are divine punishments.
Take anything from nature. Can electricity, gravity or magnetism give you a book? No, but you investigate and learn about natural phenomena, and you write books about them.
Does the electric motor work differently for followers of xyz religion?
Does Penicillin work differently for followers of pqr religion?
When giant Tsunami waves came, they swept away the whole kindergarten full of children belonging to all kind of religions. This is the way of God (nature).
I am more comfortable with the Buddhist belief of Dependant Origination (cause and effect). The Law of Causation states that whatever is, must have a cause. Suggesting also that, if there is a thing or an event, then there will be an effect that will inevitably follow from that thing or event. Unwholesome actions will lead to unwholesome results and wholesome actions lead to wholesome results. We create our own Karma, as reflected in our destiny. It is vital that we respect rational, secular, humanist values.
It really does not matter, which religion you follow, or which book you read. If you are good, you are good. By being good, what I mean, is living without causing any harm or pain, physical or mental, to any beings sensitive to pain. If there is a place called heaven where all good people destined to go, you will go there regardless of your denomination or religious label.
This theory eliminates the need to argue and prove the unprovable, while we are on earth. The only requirement to reach the heaven is to be good. It is futile trying to prove if heaven and hell exist or whether there is life after death, which God in which book is the right one.
Isn’t this a very beautiful belief? Though, I cannot prove to you the veracity of this belief, just like you cannot prove the veracity of your religious belief to me, I accept this as the most plausible.
Kalama Sutra:
Do not accept things just because they are being repeated, or come from tradition, scriptures, rumor, guesswork, incorrect reasoning, and a bias towards the subject, clever oration or mere respect for the teacher or speaker. When you know for yourself that something leads to harm and sorrow and is not welcomed by the wise, then abandon it.
The same text, said the Buddha, must be applied to his own teachings.
Thanks for reading.
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Me watching documentaries about America made me feel that religion is bull cow
I grew up in 7th Day Adventism... the God doesn't give life to just anyone eho believes in him. You have to follow everything the Bible says too... strictly!
Yeah that sounds like a load of bull shit.
Control system
me too but I still believe in God. I grew up Catholic but it caused severe depression. I understand. It doesn't allow birth control for women and as a kid all they talked about was going to hell. It ruined my sex life in highschool
Tbh you probably shouldn'tve been worried about a sex life in college. I could see college tho. But that's just me
Why do you think that's okay to be doing?
@dorin I beg of you please shut up
You’re mad at God but He isn’t mad at you… His heart is just broken that you don’t see how much He loves you. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and if you can repent and put your faith in HIM (not a religion), He will grant you the free gift of everlasting life!
You are projecting and using a strawman argument. Atheism means to reject non-evidentiary god-claims... that's it. It's absurd to claim it's a matter of being mad at a god, because there's simply no evidence that proves one exists.
Honestly any comment just like these sounds like trolling!!!
Agree with every comment below.
I like the concept of god, however it is an idea based on ignorance
Religion impedes your ability to be spiritual. God is way to categorized and is misunderstood. By the rules of religion, any and all human interpretation if blasphemy.. So it's self contradicting. Bibles teach morals but spirituality can't be learned.
I feel your pain man but blaming religion for ruining your life? that's ridiculous. you allowed religion to ruin your life. it's not religions fault. all religion sucks and is based on bullshit. I gave thousands of dollars to the only time I was really involved with the church but I did not blame the church and I did not blame religion. I blame myself. I haven't watched your second video yet I'm getting ready to do that. so far I don't see how you could blame religion though.
Thats... really weird. You seem to imply you have already found your way out, but still defend religion? That is literally victim blaming, religions use incredibly dishonest and immoral tactics to propagate themselves, for example the most commonly commited and endorsed version of child abuse, indoctrination. Religion is a cancer, and humanity is its victim, theists are victims of an idea that was only able to survive because the entire thing of the idea is to poison, bent, twist and break the victims brain into believing impossible nonsenical absurdities for no, and against all reason.
I am not religious, but do you give credit for your orthodox religion reforming and organizing your culture? We know it's better than what ever preceded it. A Christian nation will be more civilized and have better hospitals than a non Christian one. A humanist society still has sins to punish, but in a humanist society, you will never be forgiven.
Humanism isn't about forgiveness. It's about keeping people happy and safe. Religion was never about that in the first place. It has zero empathy for its victims.
I didn't realize I needed Jesus. Sorry Jesus for rejecting you
Jesus will not turn anyone away who comes to him in humility.
@@georgeporge7124 The argument is that he stays hidden. Why stay hidden. Turning away would at least show he is participating.
@@joecheffo5942 He won't stay hidden for long. Faith is the substance of things unseen.
This post is about how atheism ruined my life. It denied the only true Kking of Kings Jesus Christ and suppressed the truth and tried to hide the True Light. It made a already sad life look even more hopeless until I found salvation in Jesus Christ. Darkness cannot extinguish the Light. I love to pray to God in the name of Jesus and get up and go to work and tell people of hope in Jesus! God is good!
Yes keep being delusional pal
Why are you all like cancer…?!spreading to the parts of the world that has already gone through healing and recovery? Everywhere I turn, when I’m seeking truth, knowledge and practical understanding..here you come with your toxic, malignant beliefs onto happy and healthy individuals…it’s like you can’t stand that someone else is happy --everyone else must suffer with you and your Jesus evilness …if you are a sinner everyone else must be punished tooo!!! The narcissism is showing. No one else can share their truth without you turning it around to me me meeeeee…this video is about how MY life is ruined by no-god wahhhhh wahhh …
@@syahnovlikuartapama5401chill bro not everyone has your experience
God the Father loves everyone for His mercy endureth forever
What credible evidence do you have for your claim?
@@ga6589 You dont understand that is not a claim, it is fact.
@@ZachariahMorningstar Facts are based on credible and verifable evidence that proves something is true. There is no such evidence for any god, so you've made a non-evidentiary claim. You may be entitled to an opinion, but not your own definition of a fact.
@@ga6589 You are trying to define fact by rejecting truth.
@@ZachariahMorningstar I am rejecting your non-evidentiary god-claims.
The problem is people base a walk with Christ with others and their actions. Do your own reading of the Bible. Remember the only way the devil can hurt God is by hurting you. Our forefathers choose to create and participate in evil. Because they choose to be disobedient to God. God said don't put our hand in the fire because it will permanently hurt you. And we choose to do it anyway. However God does not do any of these bad things to you. It is people who choose this. In the Bible God says that the world is fallen and that there will be trails and tribulations. But as long as you truly make Jesus your Lord. You truly have faith in Him. You truly read His word and talk to Him(prayer) that you will be with Him in eternal and everlasting life. Never to go through another bad thing again. Stop basing a walk with Christ on people and their actions just because they claim to be something or claim to know something and lead you the wrong way. Base it off of God's word and what He does for you specifically. He loves you. He wants you. And He is waiting for you. Please just give it some thought. Religion and organization usually ruins a lot of people's lives because it is tainted with human judgement and management. Government fails us all the time. God however does not fail. If anyone has a question I would love to answer. I just want you all to be my brothers and sisters and get this peace I have to
These posts are proving his point. He never said he was basing it on people and their actions, he said he started to see the problems in the Bible. Can you just leave people alone? This is likely a completely crazy out of control cult at this point. Like zombies.
Me to i still believe in Jesus
I believe in Jesus too
I believe Jesus was a deluded Rabbi.
Sir you don't give your name....You say you were naive and that you are now embarrassed as a result.
I want to say at the outset I agree with you that religion is at times devastating; and I find it…. I won’t say offensive necessarily, but I will say divisive.
You have clearly been able to enter into an experience journey through and emerge….and you are here with something to say about the experience something to offer others in order that they may by your caution avoid traveling the same road. There should not be any embarrassment in that. What after all is life but a journey from one experience to the other?
I suspect most of those who have commented and perhaps you as well are atheists.
For the sake of transparency I will say at the beginning I am a Christian. I have spent time looking into various…. lets call them sects…..SDA, JW, Mormonism, Catholicism, I could go on the list is extensive even within the pale of orthodoxy. I however do not find that any of these groups or religious positions are capable of expounding on scripture, at least in a consistent and satisfactory scene. There may be a certain number of adherents within some of these groups that I would call Christian, currently searching that will in time leave these organisations but none of the organizations themselves are what I would call the church. They are counterfeits, but even if there are a thousand false gospels that cannot invalidate the one true gospel, it just makes it much more difficult to find.
I watched part 1 and 2. I looked for 3 and didn’t find it. You don’t ultimately claim your conclusion is there is no God nor do you say Yeshua is not the Messiah.
You don’t actually seem to draw any conclusions and you are not specific in terms of the damages you suffered.
I will say that I did not have any problem with the question you posed out of Genesis. I would be happy to spend what time is necessary to answer you and would enjoy engaging you in conversation that has no other goal on my part than to help you find some of the clarity you said you went looking for. I don’t represent any organized religion. I have been involved with a few and experienced many of the same frustrations you point out. I always reframed from ponying up as it were.
Not that I wasn’t willing to support the work of God but wanted to be sure that was in fact what I would be doing and honestly in the end never felt that would have been the case.
So here I am on line doing what I can to dispel the misconceptions of many as to what Christianity is and what it is not.
The first point I would make is that if God is real as any professing Christian would claim and powerful and interested in His children as we are identified as such the most reasonable assumption anyone could draw from that is experimentally He should be obvious….
My sheep know My voice; plainly ….A Christian, any Christian, every Christian, hears Him speak and I would say that many who would not claim to be Christian do hear Him perhaps without realizing it, and many that attend churches small c and identify as Christian don’t hear Him and would think to do so really unimaginable. So many that are called do not say I am Christian and many that are not are in church every Sunday but never saved.
The second point I would make is that Biblical Christianity is the only kind there is. If an organization has added to scripture or taken away from it they are not Christian….All the groups I mentioned earlier do exactly that. So it is not about my opinion or yours or theirs. God either is or is not and scripture is the source of the claim….it can either defend itself or not and must absolutely be the only arbiter, only defining source. Just as Islam must be fully reliant on the Quran, Buddhism on the noble teachings. A person can take all of these and mix them about together forming something they ultimately find more satisfying but it will then be none of them.
So if you ask a question I will give an answer from scripture or not at all.
That said the third and final point I would make is that there are certain scholars that would present a picture of scripture as less than fully reliable and I would agree. Not that we don’t have the inerrant word of God but that that word is not necessarily found in a KJ version. So the scriptural sources I may draw on might have to go back to the original Greek, they might be based on the Septuagint rather than the Masoretic. I will though always give you my source and how to find it yourself.
I am willing to present a reasoned case I am not willing to banter argue or put up with childish comments.
@@AK-gk6sd I can't know what you may or may not find clear but I can say that to be a man of religion is not the same thing as it is to be a Christian. However most confuse the one with the other. I don't and my comment was intended to differentiate between these two widely diffrent things in a world where blindness has taken the place of wisdom. Religion is an undertaking of men, involving definate practices intended to illicit a response from God. A God those involved never know. Christianity is an act of God where men are reborn spirituality and as such have living in them a Devine nature. They know God and are known by God. They do not act like they know God or attempt to curry His favor. They are His children and as such have His attention every day they are alive, at the time of their passing, and beyond. They live with the promise of the kingdom. One of these states is good, and should be desired, the other pretends to be and is a scourge. My desire is to make that clear to those lost within a faulse gospel. They believe in God of whom they have heard but do not know. If they love religion so be it, but if they love God, truth, and desire to know Him, to honestly hear Him, I want them to understand that posability exists, but is not realized through religion. Faith is a gift we receive from God through an encounter with Him. A thing that should be reasonable to anyone that claims God is real, God is powerful, God is their Father. Most though who attend a religious service while agreeing with all the statements made do not find it normal to hear Him. Not normal because most never have. Not normal becaues many that claim they have are clearly not Christian. Not normal because while they have a form of godliness they deny the power there of. I am not here to preach, I have nothing to sell, and the child of God has the Spirit and no need of my time. I am here to give a testimony. To say God is real, He is powerful, He is personal, and He is not found in religion, He is found in person. Accept it or don't, that's your call I have no stake in either.
You sir with your biblical absolutes and supposed infallibilities and "god's will" crutch ARE part of the problem. Spouting the same nonsense and closed minded foolishness that I've always heard. Nothing new here to see. Please just go away and leave us alone with your "high and mighty" long worded nonsense. We've had enough of you and your kind. Go away please. You still present it as if your version of God and Jesus, etc are the only absolutes and the only truth based on your "understanding of scripture" which is a big part of the problem. Go away now please. You cause more problems and trouble for other people than you can imagine with the hot air billowing from your lungs like self-minded politicians. Leave us alone.
It is God's will for you to be perpetually miserable.
When you stand before God on judgment day, all the excuses in the world won't matter. The important question will be: What did you do with Jesus? Did you accept Him as your Savior, repent of your sins, live a Christian life by following God's word? Rejecting "religion" is fine. But don't reject the One Who gave Himself as a sacrifice for your sins so that you could enter heaven.
I don't know if loving Jesus is wrong because if it is, I don't want to be right. Jesus is the way the truth and the life, no one goes to the father except through him. John 14:6
People, you have free will to believe whatever way you want to. God gives that to you. Don't believe, do believe, it's your choice.
God loves you and wants you to spend eternity with him, but if you don't want to, he gives you an alternative. He allows you to spend eternity with Satan instead. So, no big deal.......
If god is omniscient and omnipresent that would take away from the whole concept of free will and the whole thing of not choosing to want to spend eternity under the feet of some thin skinned egotistical unstable deity makes the alternative seem to be the lesser of two evils!
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In the nicest way possible, comments like yours are the reason people want to leave christainity
@@kelvinhooks9399the problem is your creator can do whatever it wants the same way your CEO at work can do whatever it wants
@@runantelope4239if they leave then leave it’s all good I don’t understand why when someone says ya if you leave it’s ok you can be with Satan I mean don’t atheists and ex Christian usually hype with screams of happiness that they’d love Satan more anyways so what’s the problem
@@AllUKLuv first I don't have a creator so NO. Secondly a CEO of a company cannot do whatever they want because of regulating laws that guide the business world and the laws of physics that will not allow a said CEO to disappear into thin air or jump 30 feet in the air or fly without some mechanical aid! That is a really dumb analogy!
“I have Regret regarding my stupidity for being indoctrinated.“
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It just seems your heart was already hardened and you also didn’t have a good teacher.
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Your arrogance of sin and negligence for the Love and faith of Christ is evident imo.
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Praying for you
I am thinking for you. ;-)
For a people who claim to be so enlightened and intelligent, you all are so deluded when it comes to a belife in God or something bigger. Religion is a construct of man used to focus their belife of a higher power. With it being made of man, it is subjected to all the horrible flaws man can muster. To say you have given up on God because of a flawed religion is weak.
You can put god into that category of a man made construct as well.
God never promised this life would be easy he dosent save the flesh he saves the spiritual man
No proof!
@@kelvinhooks9399 you only get that way because you didn't get your way
@@AllUKLuv what are you referring? I don't have a preference other than to know the truth!
@@kelvinhooks9399 saying no proof is because you don't want it
@@AllUKLuv in reference to the christian deity I would say that I wouldn't care one of the other. If this deity is real and if the description of it is real according to the Bible then I would want nothing to do with it, if it's not real then all is well!
Pray to god, the scripture is indoctrination.... God isn't religion lololol
Faith does not mean "Belief without evidence". That is the wrong definition of faith. For me, faith is like trusting, obeying and relying on God no matter what, even if you do not understand His ways and His plans, even if His plans and His ways do not seem to make sense to you, even if you do not understand God. Let me us this illustration:
Imagine if you had a father who is a professional driver, and He is very good at driving cars. One day, you needed to move to a new school. So your father decided to drive you to school. You do not know the way to your new school, you do not know how a car works, you do not know how to drive a car, you do not know where the school is located at. But you trust in your father and hope that he would deliver you to your new school safely. That is kind of like what faith is. It is trusting and relying on something no matter what, even if you do not understand it.
To be honest, I feel so bad for you and I hope that you will come back to Christ.
Unfortunately, faith is the belief in something with absolutely no evidence. You must deal with it.
But if you never saw of heard from a man called your father, that would be weird to trust he would take you to school. Totally non comparable situation.
@@newnoggin2 To start, The Bible itself does not even teach blind faith; The Bible teaches that faith and reason are compatible and must support each other. In Acts 17:1-4, we read that when Paul entered the synagogue in Thessalonica, he debated and reasoned with the Jews using the Scriptures in order to convince them that Jesus is the Messiah, and that He died for our sins and rose from the dead. Paul didn't just tell the Jews to just blindly believe in what he preached to them without any evidence; he used arguments and apologetics (Reasoning with the Jews using the Scriptures) in order to convince them that the Gospel is true. In Acts 19:8-10, we see a similar passage which states that Paul debated with the Jews and reasoned with them about the things concerning the Kingdom of God. In 1 Peter 3:15, Peter writes that we Christians must always be prepared to give an answer to those who ask us for the reason of the hope that is in us. Based on these passages in The Bible, it is clear that The Bible does not teach that faith is belief without evidence; that we should just blindly believe in the doctrines of Christianity, such as the existence of God, the resurrection of Christ etc. without any evidence at all.
Faith is not the absence of evidence; it is the result or the effect of evidence. Evidence leads to credibility, and credibility leads to faith. Evidence is the seed of faith; evidence is the beginning of faith. For instance, we know that everything that Jesus said or taught must be true because He is God, and we know that He is God because of the historical evidence for His resurrection from the dead. In this example, the resurrection of Christ is the evidence, which leads to the conclusion that Jesus is God; which is credibility. Then, we have faith in whatever Jesus says; we have faith that all of His sayings are true, on account of His credibility, which is demonstrated apart from faith by evidence alone. Evidence begets credibility, and credibility begets faith.
So sad and unfortunate, many people failed to find good spiritual life through Jesus! Why is it so difficult for many people to love God and love their neighbours? Jesus gives peaceful and joyful life through the feeling of love our God and love our neighbours. If one does these, one won't blame the religion for one's miserable life!!!
Excuse me, you come off as so smug. Obviously, you did not grow up in a terrifying religious environment where salvation was always in question and images of hellfire were very real. Why don't you show some empathy instead of pious judgment.
@@omartorrio1512 Hope you find peace in Jesus!
@@sulongenjop7436 I appreciate your comment because I believe you are sincere. I also envy you if you have found peace with God. In my case, my belief in Jesus is what led to all my mental problems. I grew up with constant salvation and rapture anxiety because of my Pentecostal upbringing. I believe most atheists grew up in this type of environment. We simply get tired of being scared.
@@omartorrio1512 Trust in and submit to Jesus wholeheartedly to God's/Jesus's will without feeling of excited and anxiety. Badmouthing and hatred to others can make our life stressful and unpeaceful because one is loveless of God.
@@sulongenjop7436If fairy tales make you feel happy then more power to you. Not all of us are that gullible.
Jesus is the only way to heaven, not manmade religion. You were so consumed by man made traditions that your life became a mess. If you truly want to get saved, all you have to do is to admit that you are a sinner, believe on the LORD Jesus Christ, and call upon his name with a contrite heart sincerely, he WILL save you from hell. If you choose to get truly saved, Jesus will fill that void in your heart, for he filled the gap that was in my heart after I got out of Babylon (Roman Catholicism).
What credible evidence do you have for your claims?
But isn’t Roman Catholic the first church after Jerusalem Church Also Jesus said his own church will turn against him and go through tribulations which the Roman Catholic Church is currently going through as it’s the most wicked
@@AllUKLuv NO. The roman catholic church was actually created by satan through emperor Constantine in 313 AD. Jesus calls the Roman Catholic Church the great whore of Babylon. The Roman Catholic Church, eastern/oriental orthodox churches, and eastern rite Catholic Churches were made to counterfeit the REAL Body of Christ.
Very sad that you did not understand that God is not a religion !!!Jesus is the only way !
I have seen and interacted with souls on the other side. Jesus can be a way, but not the only way. If Jesus works for you and allows you to be your best, then rock on. The afterlife is not so black and white, heaven or hell. Through the powers found within one's brain, we can go where we desire in the after-life. There is more on how to do this, I just don't have the time to explain.
You chat wit the wrong guy God allow me to remember when he create my soul and jesus IS the only way your wishfull thinking will bring you into darkness because God is light And Jesus is the expresion of the father.@@patrickfoley6215
@@patrickfoley6215 explain then
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