Why I Left Christianity -- Jen Fishburne
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2020
- My journey in and out of Christianity.
Updated: Since I have so many comments now, I will no longer be able to reply to all of them.
If you tell me I never had the Holy Spirit, a real relationship with Jesus, or I missed some verse in the Bible that I actually read hundreds of times, I will not respond. You can see all the many comments on that I have already responded to.
If you tell me I just need to become a Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Muslim, Buddhist, or Jew, I will not respond. I am no longer interested in manmade religions.
If you tell me your personal story, I will read it, but it will not sway me. It is not proof of anything other than you made a good change in your life.
If you have solid evidence that Jesus actually existed, please provide it. The scholars are ALL waiting for your evidence.
If you quote Bible verses to someone who knows the Bible inside and out but no longer believes it, you are wasting your time. But I know it makes you feel good.
If you are here to encourage me, I will probably respond!
If you actually have something new to share, I will respond.
I appreciate ALL the comments, but I am getting tired of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Much love to ALL!
Wow... the arrogance and/or vitriol of most of these comments remind me of one of the best things about losing my faith: not having to deal with such people any longer.
MS//// Each person likes to feel that what they believe in is the 'truth'.
Over 1800 religion in the world and they all say if you don't worship my God you will not be saved.... Who then are we too believe... The thing is MAN MADE GOD IN HIS OWN IMAGE
How do you leave your faith because of people if it was not people who gave it to you? Did you really have it, dear? Just a thought.
@@willykruze which of these can proof their god as true, consistently? Which god does sciene support?
@@estershaanika8211 none and I hold none myself.... But also science can't explain everything.... It's just a way of calculating and explaining the world around us.... The best thing is we should live this life with the full experience it has to offer... And whatever happens after we die then we'd know
I had the opposite experience. I didn't grow up in a Christian household, but a household of abuse. In my teen years I dated an abusive man who went on to stab me in the chest and back with a kitchen knife. When I was dying I shed my atheist beliefs and prayed to God for my life. The next couple days I battled for my life. I even died on the operating table. I have no doubt there is a God now. The peace I felt when I left my body and was surrounded by white light is the same peace I feel when I pray to Jesus. I feel His presence when I pray and it's so intense sometimes it brings tears to my eyes. I recently posted my testimony on my page to spread the word that God is real. I find it interesting that anyone can know the truth and then just completely turn away from it. I suppose some people can read the word but still not have a relationship with Christ. I've see God change many lives including mine. I would have to be willfully ignorant not to see it.
Jesus changed my life too.
God bless you, Kristen.
Matthew 25:31-46 ... I’ll see you along the path to the narrow gate!
Jesus said the greatest commandment is Love the Lord your God with sl your heart , with all your strength with all your mind with all your soul. And love your neighbor as yourself. A true believer has been born again all things have become new. We love His holy word, His Word is God breathed inspired revelation to mankind. Stay strong in Him, stay in the scriptures. The deceiver is out to deceive you. 1Timothy 4:1
AMAZING TESTIMONY. OVERCOMER...GOD BE THE GLORY!!
WOW!!! I was SO traumatized by that movie!!! A few weeks after seeing it at church, I went to tell my mom something. She was nowhere to be found and her sewing machine was running and I was sur that I had been left behind! Nearly 50 years later, I still can remember how afraid I was!!!
What movie?
Yes...what fecking movie
@@GLENLYNAS ´A thief in the night´ . Larry Norman sang the song Jen´s singing in the video
I think kai was talking about the rapture movie, Left Behind, starring Nicolas Cage where people vanish mysteriously as if called back out of this world to some other other worldly place, presumably heaven, as Paul fantasized in his Epistles.
Cont....which started a cult called the Rapturists, a group of highly imaginative and fear filled people
who overrated Paul as an honest, truth telling Apostle which he is not as is now being discovered by biblcal scholars.
Military fam here! 👋🏼
Wow, tears, and tears 🥺🥹
The drive we share, the amount of research and studying we’ve done, the freedom we now share.
This whole thing, it’s beautiful. There are less than 10% of people who think for themselves and take those closed minded barriers down.
Much love and light 💫
Thanks so much for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and started studying the New Covenant on my own. See in the beginning I was sold out on the unconditional love and safety in the Saviour. Although having good intentions, when churches preach law it becomes a whole legalistic religious organization that robs us of our true identity and freedom that we are supposed to have.
What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the original Gospel says "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness/(okayness) as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel says "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven for ever". Religion says "You have to work to get close to God" the Gospel says "You cant get closer to your Father as He is in you and you are in Him". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace says "Dad loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE in this irreversibly restored relationship". Religion says "You are not good enough" and the true Gospel of Grace says "You are fully accepted, with a new heart which is righteous, holy and blameless. That's your identity, now live from your heart and be yourself". Religion is a bunch of rules to follow as a prerequisite to acceptance versus the Gospel of Grace providing immediate irreversible acceptance which will produce the "works"/performance over time, but our performance is SECONDARY to the "Work Christ did". This reveals a bit of what I found please see this link for more: czcams.com/video/RHxbZEwbhHg/video.html
This is 8 years later, if the true Gospel was preached people will break down the doors to get the Good News. In the mean-time I started a small bible study group where everyone is on the same level and unconditionally accepted, where everyone's opinion is valid and important. I guess the fight against the infiltration of religion is ongoing..
God's love.
Nicolas
More than 70 % are believer 14 % are atheism. I hope your video helps others to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !
More importantly, Jesus saves sinners! Time to use that brain God gave you! Only the name of Jesus christ of Nazareth sets people free of demonic possession!
While I can't say the journey was the same, I did come to the same conclusion as you Jen. Ignore the certaintists on here who think their belief is infallible. Letting go of my fundamentalism as helped me grow beyond measure. In the words of Socrates:
“The more I know, the more I realize I know nothing.”
What ever came of Socrates? This lady just makes you feel secure because you aren’t the only selfish one who is confused. Now you have a friend. Good luck with that.
@@bluwng Hi Bluwng, thanks for your question. Socrates and his ideas went on to be a major foundation for western philosophy.
@@bluwng Also, Merry Christmas! Hope you have a good holiday season.
You don’t know what you don’t know
@Opal Allen I remain a theist myself. However, I don't think any human tradition is infallible or inerrant.
True Christians do not lose their salvation. This is clear from 1st John 2 v 19. There are many people who know the academic truths of the Gospel but have never been truly born again of the Holy Spirit.
Bingo
How can I be born again of the Holy Spirit?
@@irvingalfaro8735 By trusting Christ as your personal savior.
To have faith in god and Jesus Christ as a saviour, is to have faith that love is the only way. We get lost in our own sorrow and our hearts are easily corrupted by the lack of moral and deceptions we stumble over in this world. You must feel the truth of Gods words in your heart to have faith.
It's heretical to say this.
You can always reject God. You can be the seed that takes root but the roots are shallow so the plant whithers and dies.
Did you know modern American evangelism-Baptist movements are the first religious group to think like this?
In almost every other Christian sect, you can accept Christ and then go on to reject him. And doesn't that make sense based on what you see? Baptist churches are full of people who accept him and then go on to reject him.
This false doctrine was dreamt up by tent preachers in the 1800's.
Study the Church Fathers-the men who walked Earth after the disciples to know the difference between heresy and true religion.
Or merely study Catholic teaching.
Thank you for sharing Jen! Watching this video opened the door for me answer the questions about my doubts tucked away for years. I’m thankful to have come across this video
It is the hazard god that you came across this video I hope your video helps others to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !
I have been on a spiritual journey since my husband passed away 9/1/23. A few days before he died (he was in the hospital) and he was on a ventilator and couldn't speak, he wrote the word "God" on a piece a paper. I was scared because we never went to church and we weren't religious. I called the hospital chaplain to the room and she said a healing prayer over him and he then wrote the words, "to be a better person" on the piece of paper. He died a few days later without us ever speaking to each other again. I'm left with what he might have been feeling or seeing at that time. He was never religious and didn't believe in God, but he always said we are pure energy. I have been finding great comfort in the teachings of Buddhism. Love to all who read my story here. May you all find comfort and peace in whatever spiritual journey you take.❤
Buddhism is one of many false religions. From what I understand it's about reincarnation(which is a lie) until you finally cease to exist. Makes no sense and is sad. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and serve him to get an eternal reward in heaven.
There's a Real Loving ALMIGHTY GOD. You've to make real effort with prayers. Millions of people are faith abiding because they encounter Awsome GOD.
Good for you. Great difference between Religion and spirituality. Keep growing
Well said brother.
Sounds rather silly to say “starving children in India or Africa”, when you have starving children right under your nose in America. :/
Thank you.
Seriously, thank u!
That's Esau for you
Not the point
So you actually missed the whole point of what she is proclaiming rather to stick onto these little passages. Peace be upon you.
Thank you for the video and the time you spent preparing your mind and soul for it. In my view, you are spot on! I appreciate the content on spirit, energy and cosmic consciousness in particular. Thank you so much! ❤
Energy guy I hope your video helps others to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !
I clearly remember sitting next to my grandmother in church when I was about 10 years old. We were listening to our preacher in the Methodist church in the Deep South. He was raging about how we are all sinners and when bad things happen to people it was because they were sinners. I could not take that in. My grandmother was one of the most wonderful, kind and giving people in the world who LOVED Jesus and the church - and yet she lost her vision and became blind. I endured many hardships throughout my life that most did not - and while I didn't enjoy it - I believe those challenges made me stronger and molded me into the person that I am. I've NEVER believe there was a Hell. I could go on and on.... I'm now 67 years old and hearing Jen Fishburne speak now is remarkable to ME - because she speaks what I believe is MY truth. And even though she speaks what I have already come to believe - it's incredibly inspiring and exhilarating to know there is yet another person out there that believes as I do! I'm so grateful to be able to listen to this because I know I'm not alone in my journey!
We are all sinners...what's your point? You know better than God who created you?
@@827dusty THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY POINT ! ! ! ! YES - God does know better ! ! ! That's why he "gave" me these challenges! HE made be stronger! HE have me empathy and understanding though these lessons! GOD put us here to have this human experience. I don't believe I will completely understand why until I cross over to what people call "death". On this side of the line - we call it death. I see it as crossing over to our eternity. My bitterness is to the so called "religious authorities" that claim they know everything there is to know about GOD. That bible - so many say it's the "Word Of GOD". I say it was inspired by GOD, but written by man. A evangelical friend of my that has studied the bible all her life helped me with a biblical phrase I've always hated. Your bible refers to "The Fear Of GOD." She said the "literal translation" or the "original pages" is "Awe Of GOD." Some people try not to make GOD angry and try to do the right thing so they can avoid being punished or hurt by GOD. I choose the path that I want to do the right thing to please GOD and make Him Smile! Yes - we are all sinners. GOD gave us the freedom of choice to learn to be our best! I believe that is our purpose for being here - to have a learning experience.
we are bilIions like her welcome . hope your video helps others to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !
@@827dusty Of course NOT! After all, God created man and woman with an original sin. Then He drown 99.9999% of them for sinning. He then impregnated a woman with Himself as her child, so that He could be born. Later He killed Himself as a sacrifice to Himself to save Israelites (NOT Africans, Chinese, Indians, Latinos, even Europeans) from the sin He bestowed upon them in the first place.
Hi , time to wake up and use that brain God gave you! Only the name of Jesus christ of Nazareth saves sinners and sets possessed people free! God made you! Jesus can save you from hell!
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us. 1 John 2:19
PERIOD
R K “whosoever shall say ‘thou fool’ shall be in danger of hell fire “ Matt 5:22
True that
Classic demonization of those who leave a group in order to shame people into staying in the group.
Every cult does this.
Sound like John copied, stole and perverted Aesop's _The Fox and the Grapes._
Jen, this is your journey, your story, an honest one at that. It was a good story because you had done your homework and you didn't seem particularly mad at God or Christianity. After fifty years as a Christian, I could never do the kind of research you did. I really didn't need to. I fell in love with Jesus and the word and no one could possibly take that love away from me. I feel sad that you went through all of that experience and came away empty. You are a nice lady and I thank you for your story.
This is a classy comment and I often don’t see humility in comment sections...usually people are rude, especially if they have a different opinion and the topics are politics and religion. You did it right. 👏👏👏👏👏
You didn't understand her message. Listen again and open your mind.
1 Corinthians 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
1 Corinthians 1:25
For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.
1 Corinthians 2:14
The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
2 Corinthians 4:3
And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.
2 Thessalonians 2:10
and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them.
1 Corinthians 1:23,24
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
@@batman-cw2hd Thank you, batman. You obviously love the scriptures too. In Jen's case, she not only knew and studied extensively the old and new testament but had a firm grasp of the meaning in its original language. After listening to her story/journey, I just wanted to express my sadness that she ended up with no faith at all. I ended up praying for her. God loves her and will work with her if she's open.
@@papasitomamasita Thank you. I love the scripture that says, 'A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger. Proverbs 15:1.
You are the strongest, most honest, most hard-working, most eloquent person I have ever encountered. Thank you for sharing your Devine Beauty. Namastè.
In 30+ years as a Christian, since my teens, I never questioned or researched the accuracy of the NT. I loved Jesus, and Word , pursued what I beleived to be a call on my life, stayed the course….through life experiences, I realized that many of my beliefs were faulty at best, robbed me of my agency, and were very harmful to my mental health. It took a while but I came to the same conclusions as you. I believe in God still, but not the OT, rather as pure energy that is in everything and connects all, a Creator and Infinite Intelligence, and not anymore a separate religious deity. I still appreciate and practice the teaching of Jesus, walk in love, and by Faith. I am free.
I left the new age, or universalism, whatever you want to call it about 3 years ago to follow Christ. I know it inside out and explored many facets of it and spoke the lingo and helped evangelise the beliefs and philosophies for 15 years. I can't condemn anyone for going in that direction after living in such legalism for a long time, because at the end of the day i ended up there looking for freedom and healing and purging.... honestly when I came back to the simplicity of the gospel of Christ and his soft peaceful presence that feeling of restlessness and constantly seeking has ended.... and so much more than that. I've been lucky to end up in a church that isn't overly legalistic so my exploration of that fine line between grace and the law is between me and God, and that's the thing it always was for all of us. It's not about other people are doing it's about God. Listening to this, it's weird because it says a number of times that Jesus gave the gift of salvation to the gentiles because the Jews turned it away. I literally read a verse about it just yesterday because I was wondering the same thing you have just discussed. I also think the verasity of the Bibles authenticity has been fairly well established , by that i mean the people who wrote it believed that they had witnessed something, so the question is, do you believe THEM? Not whether Jesus existed or not, because records say he did exist and was crucified, so the question is do you believe he died for your Salvation? It's the same kind of thing when pagans say that the Christians have kept their pagan history from them like its some conspiracy when the only reason THEY even know about it is because the CHRISTIANS kept such a thorough record of it, it's like dude it's not a conspiracy, it's all over the internet, the Christians wrote about it😂 so anyway, I digress, back to the new age, the philosophy and methodology is incomplete. It just is. But i do get the rejection of a bunch of rules, but that's not what it is for me since coming back to it.... anyway I'll finish up my mini essay by saying that I'm glad you weren't massively antagonistic and disrespectful to the entire religion, it's exhausting and disappointing to see people doing that everywhere Because your experiences of Christianity are not necessarily mine so to me I'm not supporting something to bully people or harm them. I just want to follow Christ because I believe with my entire being that i was completely lost without him. That dosnt mean my life is perfect now, not yet anyway, but i can never go back to where i was. I believe what I am currently experiencing is deliverance, it's excruciatingly hard but necessary, because of where i was at. And the point of my comment here was to say, Don't close your mind to the idea of maybe coming back one day, because if your heart is genuinely set upon seeking truth, i believe that you will find your way back to Jesus. And one last thing, just because we happen to have been born in a Christian culture, does not mean that by default it is untrue.
Penelope Ody.. you are a lot more kind than I was. I on the other hand would have wished that she didn't proclaim to know God and then turn around and call it all a lie. I think that is much more damaging. We are coming right up to the end if you're a Christian you know that well it's not really the end we're coming right up to the great tribulation and it is crucial that people know God and accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior. I believe what she's teaching is the big delusion of the great Awakening and it's sad for anyone that comes across this video.
@@Linda-wd4pc i hear what your saying and I've thought a lot about this watching videos of people coming back to christ and those falling away. And thats the thing, he wants us to know him as our OWN PERSONAL saviour. And i can say this for myself that i never would have known that if I didn't find it for myself. I always believed in God, my family was Christian, not super religious but they taught me that Jesus was God, the basics, so that was never a question for me, but why Jesus? Why the Bible? Specifically? If we remain open to finding the truth he will address these questions with us. Some people are raised in religion but can't understand what they are being saved FROM or why if you know what I mean, they need to go on a journey to find him for themselves. I even read some verses in the Bible that i think addresses some of this, I will try and find them for you. One thing though, I don't think this lady is trying to join a lynch mob because her tone doesn't imply hate, i think her questions are genuine.
1The word of the Lord came to me: 2“Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel; prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Woe to you shepherds of Israel who only take care of yourselves! Should not shepherds take care of the flock? 3You eat the curds, clothe yourselves with the wool and slaughter the choice animals, but you do not take care of the flock. 4You have not strengthened the weak or healed the sick or bound up the injured. You have not brought back the strays or searched for the lost. You have ruled them harshly and brutally. 5So they were scattered because there was no shepherd, and when they were scattered they became food for all the wild animals. 6My sheep wandered over all the mountains and on every high hill. They were scattered over the whole earth, and no one searched or looked for them.
7“ ‘Therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the Lord: 8As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, because my flock lacks a shepherd and so has been plundered and has become food for all the wild animals, and because my shepherds did not search for my flock but cared for themselves rather than for my flock, 9therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the Lord: 10This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against the shepherds and will hold them accountable for my flock. I will remove them from tending the flock so that the shepherds can no longer feed themselves. I will rescue my flock from their mouths, and it will no longer be food for them.
11“ ‘For this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I myself will search for my sheep and look after them. 12As a shepherd looks after his scattered flock when he is with them, so will I look after my sheep. I will rescue them from all the places where they were scattered on a day of clouds and darkness. 13I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land. 14I will tend them in a good pasture, and the mountain heights of Israel will be their grazing land. There they will lie down in good grazing land, and there they will feed in a rich pasture on the mountains of Israel. 15I myself will tend my sheep and have them lie down, declares the Sovereign Lord. 16I will search for the lost and bring back the strays. I will bind up the injured and strengthen the weak, but the sleek and the strong I will destroy. I will shepherd the flock with justice.
17“ ‘As for you, my flock, this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will judge between one sheep and another, and between rams and goats. 18Is it not enough for you to feed on the good pasture? Must you also trample the rest of your pasture with your feet? Is it not enough for you to drink clear water? Must you also muddy the rest with your feet? 19Must my flock feed on what you have trampled and drink what you have muddied with your feet?
Then there is Amaziah in chronicals. He became king but didn't stay king for long because he started doing as the pagans did and allowed corruption into Israel. Heres a portion of the verse about him. I believe the story is referring to the importance of following God WILLINGLY. He dosnt want unwilling participation, he also addresses with the Pharisees following the law without acknowledging God in your heart, so it's important to God.
1Amaziah was twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem twenty-nine years. His mother’s name was Jehoaddan; she was from Jerusalem. 2He did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, but not wholeheartedly....
Isn't "universalism" one of the oldest teachings, though? It's in the Vedas, the kaballah, ancient Egyptian texts, pagan/Norse religion, native American beliefs etc... There is nothing "new age" about it...
We are one cosmic consciousness...
"Know thyself and you will know the gods and the cosmos." That line predates your Bible. Fact.
This woman has my utmost respect!
Grace and peace be multiplied unto you in the name of our Lord and Savior .
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@@marcusrogers2818 dude. Stop.
She's a fanatic.
@@matthewmontano9695 What did they say?
Only other clueless people like her respect her. She goes by blind faith. There is no evidence we can get all this on its own naturally.
The 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. It is clear creation had to be done supernaturally at some point yet it is still denied because people are just too proud to accept that, among other things.
This testimonial essentially summarizes the last 15 years of my journey. So many topics you touched on has been integral parts & even revelations I have experienced & learned along the way, and scepter you did MUCH more research & study. Absolutely incredible.
Most people have heard “Jesus/God loves you”. Does that mean they have a relationship with God and will go to heaven? Depends on the individual. A relationship is 2 sided, you receive love and you give love back. God showed His love by suffering, dying on the cross and rising from the dead for you, now you show Love back by repenting of your sins (lying, stealing, sexual sins, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) and believing in Jesus as your Lord and saviour so that Heaven is in your future not hell
I hope your video helps others to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !?!
You are the first person I've heard articulate what I have come to believe myself. I am so grateful to have come across this video in my feed. So much of what you've shared is similar to my own experience, except I've never been the scholar or student you've been. I feel thoroughly heartened and encouraged by this. Thank you.
She is NO scholar. She's an embarrassment is all. She can't even make it past the first verse about God creating.
The 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. It is clear creation had to be done supernaturally at some point yet it is still denied because people are just too proud to accept that, among other things.
Thank you!
@@2fast2block Wrong energy
@@JenFishburne How Jen thinks she got around the laws of science I gave..."Wrong energy" Jen loves pretending she's some thinker you should follow.
I hope your video helps others to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !articulate your next mariage will last one week.
God is so real to me now I cannot imagine life without him. It is not about religion, priests, ministers, or holier than thou groups. It is about a glorious wonderful walk with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. I am so glad I found that out!
That's What I Call spirituality. Thumbprint of the Holy Spirit. That's when other people want what you've got
It is about a relationship with Jesus, and just lean
Jesus never claimed to be god lol
In fact
Mark 10:18- “Good teacher, how do I enter paradise”? Jesus responded "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God Alone”
The most fundamental belief in Christianity is that Jesus is god
But you cannot show me a single claim where he says that, rather what you do find are verses of him denying being god lol
What a confusing ass religion
If god asks me why I didn’t worship Jesus, my answer is I never was told you were god
Numbers 23:19 “god is not a man”
Jesus was a man
Lol mark Mathew and Luke never once claimed Jesus to be god
The first three Gospels forgot to mention it?
@@harambey , John 14:9 when Jesus was speaking to his disciples, and Philip If you have seen me you have seen my father. When they Kept asking Show us the Father, better go reread your bible.
@@harambey Also the Gospel of John Chapter 8 starting in verse 55, when the Pharassees were questioned him that Jesus said he existed before Abraham, and they said how can you have seen Abraham you are only 30 years old Jesus said before Abraham I AM. So he was both God and man.
"but the falling away must come first..."
So very sorry you went through all you experienced.
This whole video is an example of the falling away- 2 Thessalonians 2:3 -
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
Ever Mateo amen 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢🤜🏻🤜🏻🤜🏻🤜🏻🤜🏻🤜🏻🤜🏻🤜🏻🤜🏻🤜🏻
@@evermateo6166 Its school and your asleep. secular history for first Adam is flesh duality to judge that comes back on you. no one s better than anyone else, when you wake you will laugh.
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Hi Jen, at the age of three score and ten it's taken me all this time until now to watch your video and you have helped me on my journey . Your knowledge has been so hard fought for and won ,I look forward to linking into your other videos ,thank you so much for all the hours you put into this.🙏
Will you throw away your soul now at the age of 70? You should have enjoyed the pleasures of sin better all your life, rather than burning in Hell for maybe 10 years of sin when you're maybe not even so good at many sins due to age.
dear until now brain-dirt I hope to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me too was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the true miracle ! !!Jealousy is my motive ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !
OMG! My favorite part is your general response to all the comments. So well said.
I'm thinking she must have gotten posted to some Christian forum, the way she's been spammed to death by "testimonies" and these commenters who commandeer whole threads to have a revival meeting.
Jesus did say , that when you seek me with all your heart and being, about the truth of life, then I will reveal myself to you, he will remain faithful to you as he has said, it is his mercy ( love ) that causes us to find him, ask him to show himself real to you, He is the closest friend to your heart if you ask him to be.
If only it were that simple. Did Jesus physically or undoubtedly appear to you? No, it is never that clear cut.
@@thecommentschannel3548 you obviously have all the answers why get bent so out of shape?
Did you not watch the video? This lady was really into Jesus! She got baptized twice just to be sure. She even learned ancient hebrew and greek to read the bible. Do you really think that your faith and devotion is stronger than her's was? Do you think that you have something to teach her?
@@hamobu Yeah humility.
My friend met the real Jesus, because of her question. And he came to her.Jesus is real. I only met him in my dreams. Also my friend doesnt go to church and is an atheist.
This is the most clear and concise journey i have ever heard. Never had a moment i was bored listening. Thank you.
Thank you, Aeu! Glad it resonated with you!
Wow, great video. So true and lots to ponder. May positive energy surround you. Big hugs. Xx
I was a Christian, but then i read the bible
I wasnt a christian, but than i read the bible.
@@jakemzekarias1133 Good Boy . . . *1-Peter 2:18* _“SLAVES,_ in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.”
*Ephesians 6:5-7* _"SLAVES,_ obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as *SLAVES* of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.”
*Romans 1:1* "Paul, a _bondservant_ of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God."
*Romans 6:16* “Surely you know that you become the _SLAVES_ of whatever you give yourselves to. Anything or anyone you follow will be your _master.”_
*1 Timothy 2:1-3* “I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people - for *KINGS* and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior.”
@@rickastley4295 Ezekiel 23:1-5 KJV
[1] The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, [2] Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother: [3] and they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed whoredoms in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity. [4] And the names of them were Aholah the elder, and Aholibah her sister: and they were mine, and they bare sons and daughters. Thus were their names; Samaria is Aholah, and Jerusalem Aholibah. [5] And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours....
I bet you do...if you would have read the whole chapter you would know what that verse is about...
My favorite verse is surah 65:4 and bukhari5134...🤡🫡
You read the bibel, but dont understand. May your heart is death?
There was so many names dropped, organization joined, books read, work done, but Jesus said "come follow me." Only Him, only Him. My mother in her pain (She had cancer) reached her hand to heaven, and uttered "Thank you Lord." She had this relationship with Jesus, no pain could take or waiver her faith and trust in Him. She only followed and trusted Jesus, only Him. It all boils down to personal relationship with Jesus, the Christ.
It all boils down to what Christ does, not us " You can do nothing without Me" John 15:5
" A man can receive nothing unless given from heaven " John 3:27 " It is the Lord who guides a mans step, so then how can anyone know his own way " Proverb 20:24
Jesus said he only came for the House of Israel
I treasure my God and His word i was not able to study much the bible but i rejoice in every Word i read i know i am a gentile and my God designed us gentiles to praise Him. JESUS in Him all believers put their hope.
@@anarabanes You are not a Gentile from the 10 lost tribes of Israel living in the nations 2,000 years ago with the law given to Israel written on your heart
This is the most underrated comment on here. You summed it up. Thanks
I find it very commendable that Ms. Fishburne uses its experiences to make it clear to other people, how strong these ideologies can damage the human mind, so you may need decades efforts to get rid of them.
See Romans 1:22....
Yes😩😭. It takes years to undo the damage that religion does to the mind. There are books written about it.
Ideologies I hope to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the true miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !
I enjoyed your video, ty so much for sharing your experience with us.
You've answered a lot of
questions for me.
Thank you LORD FOR MY SALVATION , am saved for Eternity , so sure I am . Come LORD JESUS come .
Listening to this. Her story is just the opposite of mine. I trusted everyone and what they said about God. Sitting in church praying no-one would notice me. Never understanding anything God said. It was. Story I was suppose to follow. I always believed in God. But I didn't know Him. When I got on my knees and gave my life to Him. I opened the bible and found my life in there. Knowledge,answers,peace,love,and God. 5 years later I trust no man to tell Who God is. I Go to God to find out who he is in His truth. I am praying for you. Because God tells Us many of my people will be deceived.
Where in Bible Jesus said I am God Worship me n I came to Die for ur sins?
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God cannot display pride as it is the very nature of falling from grace at the garden but he uses opportunity to reveal Himself in the context of the situation eg Phillip asked show us the father and the Lord Jesus responded he who has seen me has seen the father in John 14
@@instrumentengineer5823 No where in the bible does it say worship men. My point was God warns us about everything happening right now. False teachers,people being deceived, He even says in 1 John 2:27 that we don't need any other teachers.
@@instrumentengineer5823 When sharing the gospel with Muslims, it is not uncommon to hear the objection: “Where did Jesus say, ‘I am God; worship me’?” This is because many Muslims have been trained (by Muslim apologists) to ask this question of Christians and demand that the answer must be in those exact words. Of course, this is an inconsistent and irrational demand. As, if we applied the same criteria, then we could ask them to show us in the Qur’an where it says that to become a Muslim you have to use the exact words of the shahada (1st pillar of Islam): “There is no god but God. Muhammad is the messenger of God.” Although both statements in the shahada are in the Qur’an (Surah 37:35 and 48:29), they are not found in those exact words in that order as a formula for someone to become a Muslim. Nevertheless, often when Christians do show Muslims that Jesus claimed to be divine, their response is to argue that the Gospels have been corrupted and therefore we cannot trust what they say about Jesus.1 This is a strange claim since the Qur’an does not teach that the Gospels have been corrupted, but rather commands Christians and Muslims to judge by what is written in the Gospels:
Jen, your story is many things; heart wrenching, sad, provocative, perplexing and disturbing to name a few. The hours that you put into Bible study is amazing and puts me to shame, though I was able to track with your references.
The one thing missing from your story is a personal encounter with the Master Himself. Without this, I can’t imagine how you were able maintain any faith at all for any length of time.
God is Love.
Many atheists seem to think God is knowledge
@@PInk77W1 god is in one's imagination
@@kellyavery2337 I will side with
Dr MLK jr and not you thanks.
Love it , well said
To be honest I sort of seem to get that same sense that while I really appreciate Gen. I didn't hear about her interactions with God I heard about all her activities and certainly her massive amount of church activities and getting caught up into these various church experiences in social experiences.
Hey Jen, thank you for your story. I'll watch the 1 yr and 1.25 yr up date before asking questions but this so far I find helpful. The more I studied/read the bible the more I was seeing shadows of what you have explained. I don't think I'm finding confirmation bias here but rather encouragement to be able to explain what I've found. Glad our paths have crossed I look forward to exploring deeper into why or how we can share. Love (as in powerful positive energy)
Energy I hope to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the true miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !
Well, I have experience as a Christian, a true joy knowing my Jesus as my saviour.
Not possible. The premise of the Xian religion is false. The god of the bible never existed. Its a made up, fictional literary character - and if you need me to I can demonstrate this. Therefore, this is no sin, no need for savior (the Jesus person), no salvation, no judgment day. The Jesus person of the NT - as THAT story goes - never existed either. What you and all other believers have done is to take on this creature as if its real because you think it is going to give a very precious thing - eternal life.
But, its a lie. Its a lie because the premise: God Exist is a lie. Because the need for a savior - the whole back story of its requirement and the invention of the Jesus person's existence - is a lie. So, what's left? Xianity is hoax. The biggest one played on human kind EVER. You don't being told this, you think I am liar. Fine. Just keep this shit in your church, in your home and out of the public domain. See? Easy, peasy!
Now, I truly hope you abandon this delusional belief system and take the money you were giving to this lie and any energy you were expending on it and give it to human beings in need. Do some something for the common good of everyone instead of just yourself - because, lady all your doing 'I got mine, the rest you fuck off.' But, you don't have anything. There is no such thing as eternal life you have been sold a massive amount of goods that have no value.
Also don't listen to Jews. They lie as prescribed in the Talmud.
Saving you from what!?!?!
@@claudesantolini6335 Our own evil
Me too!
😥🙏🙏❤ I heard every word and yes I so resonated with all you said." Love your creator , love life and our neighbour"
Thank you, Debbie!
@@JenFishburne I also listened to your story,and what stuck out to me is you never received the gift of talking in tongues.You never gave God any credit for miracles he has done.You ran a great race and dropped the baton before the finish line.You gave up on Jesus but he has not given up on you!
So very sad...
That's why it's all RELATIONSHIP,
and nothing else...
We have to know HIM, and once we do, we're never the same....
HIS Voice is real, HIS presence is real, and so is HIS compassion and grace...
Praying!
crucifiction attempt on Jesus to remove laws will make his ppl lose blessings in mathew 21 :43 & jeremia 31 :36. pauls in acts 9 : 3 saw devil of luke 10 :18 went to Arabia, is lawless false prophet in mathew 24 :11 thought he's who will correct him - comforter in John 1 :21 & 16 :8, Prophet law giver like Musa is Muhammad peace and blessings on him!
Jesus is only sent to his tribe, after mark 16 : 8 Jesus's 2nd appearance saying he's sent for the world is an admitted fabrication. isaiah 49 says Jesus will leave his tribe and return following the light of nations of isaiah 42, a new covenent, from the Arab Prophet from mt selah Medina, this is clearly Islam.
Abraham wasn't from juda, juda came like 2 centuries later, Ibrahim and Ismael were Muslims who built the Kaba, even Jacob imitates the hajj in genesis 28!
His Church is real.
“The CHURCH is the ground and pillar of TRUTH.”
1 Tim 3:15
What he say to you?
It's dogma, first and foremost.
@@kelseykjarsgaard5774 Probably whatever his thoughts were on whatever was going on.
I should probably clarify, I mean to say that god tells theists whatever they want to hear, and that's definitely not a coincidence (sarcasm).
That must be the best video description I have seen in a long time.
You forgot God said to Abraham that through him all the nations on the Earth will be blessed, so the Bible is not only about Israel but also all the nations in the world.
Correct.
What you just did there was project YOUR personal interpretation on the text instead of allowing the text to simply say what it said. The Bible was not a ‘thing’ when God said that to Abraham and you cannot conclude what God actually meant with that statement. It’s just your interpretation, and there can be MANY others. You COMPLETELY missed the point of this video and what Jen was trying to say, which is to allow the text to be what it is, don’t project anything, read it as it is and see what’s the context, look up different translations because there are many others that change the meaning of the text, and so on. Also, notice how in some translations, God is indecisive on what he should do... that challenges the idea of a never changing, all knowing God. When you actually pay attention to the text, you see many things.
Is there a good way to reach you? I'm doing a video on Ron Wyatt and have some questions.
jenfishburne@gmail.com
What about Ron?
Your reply sounds somewhat condescending. I’m in the process of deconstructing my faith and I have done very serious study (Masters degree) so there’s no issue with study then deciding to walk away - that’s your journey. I just want your study to be based on proper historical and academic foundations. Authorship of the NT letters does not = fraudulence. Even whether the miracle stories in the Gospels actually happened doesn’t matter because they achieved their aim - to elicit faith. The historicity of Jesus is now a given. No serious scholar denies his existence. What was his contribution,what did he teach? They’re the real questions to my mind.
@@blocker1954 Book of thomas is likely a source book.. The origins are sumerian. These people work over thousands of years. 4000+ Revelation is still unfolding. When you take left for right and up for down you'll understand what's going on now and what was going on then.. Backwards speaking mirrored images. It's all there. Serpent race The parable of the tares. The shepherd who takes in his own pen and a pen of another. But they allust go in the same way. . The sheep and the goats.
Love your channel Holy Koolaid.
A relationship with God has to come from the heart through His Son. No amount of external knowledge will take away your hurt or grow your faith.
That's a pretty big claim. Do you have any evidence that it's true?
Interesting. Natural law, the law of Gd, law of the Cosmos.
I truly believe in the law of JUST GOOD. Being righteous. Scientist can also excel at the BS game
I do not get people needing so much understanding regarding what's good and bad. This shows how the SNAKE is everywhere
Yes! “Ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of truth...”
Yes it is through your heart that knows the truth and you will feel this because you are being guided by Jesus Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit....
@@douglaswise6797no claim intended. It's just what the scripture says.
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Wow such an inspiring video sister Jen... Thank you sister Jen for making this video...
Inspirer I hope to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the true miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !
Thank you for sharing your story. I resound with much of your background and your incredible desire to dig into Scripture. It's interesting to hear your conclusions. I can't say I agree with your final conclusions, but I know you've done more studying than I do. I do love hearing other opinions different from mine in case I am missing something. I plan on hearing more from you. Thank you.
Church is a building. Faith is in your heart. HUGS and GOD bless you all 🤗.
Till 325 AD, not a single historian or writer wrote about Jesus Christ or any of his disciples .
BEFORE THE FIRST COUNCIL OF NICEA IN 325 AD, NOBODY ON THIS PLANET EVER HEARD OF THE NAMES JESUS CHRIST OR CHRISTIANITY.
JESUS/ BIBLE / CHRISTIANTY WAS COOKED UP IN 325 AD, BY JEWESS HELENA , WHO SAT ON THE POPE'S CHAIR..
The dead sea scrolls covering the period from Birth of Jesus to 68 AD , does NOT say one word about Jesus or his 12 Apostles.
Hellenistic philosopher Philo Judaeus of Alexandria (20 BCE-50 AD/CE)-alive at the purported time of Jesus, and one of the wealthiest and best connected citizens of the Empire- makes no mention of Christ, Christians or Christianity in his voluminous writings. Nor do any of the hundreds of other historians and writers who flourished during the first THREE centuries of the common era.
The DEAD SEA SCROLLS were all written by Pagan Essenes . None of them have been edited by later Christians, as is the case with some other Jewish literature.
All the scrolls (except a treasure map known as the Copper Scroll) can be dated prior to A.D. 68 or 69, when the Qumran settlement was believed to have been destroyed by the Romans in the Jewish revolt.
The oldest of the scrolls probably goes back to the middle of the third century B.C. The people of Qumran belonged to a Pagan religious group known as the Essenes.
Pliny the Elder, who died during the volcanic destruction of Pompeii in the year 79 A.D., described a community of pagan Essenes living on the western shore of the Dead Sea, close to where Khirbet Qumran is situated.
John the Baptist was an ascetic Essene . He was a vegan and was uncircumcised . Various literary sources like Josephus and Philo tell clearly that Essenes were ascetics.
We also know, from literary testimony, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the archaeological remains of Qumran, that the Essenes practiced many water baptisms for ritual purification-similar to a dip in the Ganges or the river Pampa or at Thiirunelli. At Qumran, however, all members of the community were baptized with water for ritual purification.
Josephus writes, "And as for their piety towards God, it is very extraordinary; for before sunrising they speak not a word about profane matters, but put up certain prayers which they have received from their forefathers, as if they made a supplication for its rising" (Wars, 2.8.5). This testimony accords well with what we know from the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Prayer and humility was one thing that the Essenes . When they cooked up stories about Jesus they wrote that Jesus Christ ate the Last Supper in the Essene part of town.
Jesus is not historical character, The Dead Sea Scrolls have produced increasing evidence to cement the fact that Jesus Christ never existed and the whole story was cooked up at the First Council of Nicea in 325 AD.
The FAKE gospels were written after 325 AD after Jesus was cooked up at the first Council of Nicea..
Twelve apostles of Jesus never existed.
Jesus Christ names 12 apostles to spread his gospel, and the early Christian church owes its rapid rise to their missionary zeal. Yet, for most of the Twelve, there's scant evidence of their existence outside of the New Testament.
The concept of using statistics to prove that 'God authored the Bible' is bullshit.
Why was the library of Alexandria burnt ?
The gospel of Thomas was not written by Jesus' disciple Thomas.
Englishman Godfrey Higgins studied Greek, Latin and law at Cambridge . His two-volume, 867-page book Anacalypsis: An Enquiry into the Origins of Languages, Nations, and Religions, was published posthumously in 1836.
In his treatise, Higgins writes " the mythos of the Jews and the mythos of the Greeks are all at bottom the same lifted from the ancient mythos of Hindus ; and ... are contrivances under the appearance of histories to perpetuate doctrines," and that Christian editors “either from roguery or folly, corrupted them all.”
1900, Scottish MP John Mackinnon Robertson wrote that Jesus never existed but was an FAKE invention by a first-century messianic cult. He wrote about the First Council of Nicea of 325 AD where powerful forces invented a new god to fit the needs of the society of the time .Robertson specifically mentions the Talmudic story of the Yeshu .
Thomas says: "Simon Peter said to them, ‘Make Mary leave us, for females don’t deserve life.’ Jesus said, ‘Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven’" (Thomas 114).
AIYOOOOO -even Christians don’t like this
When the master of James baby Jesus Christ never existed -- how can his disciple St James exist ?
Even since the dead sea scrolls have been discovered CHRISTIANS and JEWS are jumping up and down like demented orangutans claiming that Essenes belong to them.
Dead Sea text or Qumran Scrolls have absolutely nothing ZILCH, to do with the Bible of the Torah - never mind the diabolical lies of the Christians and the Jews.
For arguments sake -even if messiah Jesus Christ existed , the gospels were written a even a century after Jesus' estimated year of death, by individuals who never met Jesus, and then were edited or forged over the centuries by unknown scribes with their own agendas.
Exactly
Iam indian but iam born hindhu family now my family belive only jesus glory to god 🙏
Have you ever read the uoanishads no without even attempting to understand the greatness of the puranas you left and settled for this abrahakic mythology.please reconsider this abominable decision.you will not regret it.
@@ritamganguly6346 It seems to me that a world in which each person has existed without beginning in a round of rebirths, each of which brings inevitable suffering, is rather depressing. And if each person’s suffering is the result of their past wrong-doing, which had to be worked out now or later, there is little incentive to change or to remove suffering.
@@TheEnlightened77 Hinduism has several schools of philosophy . Ranging from typical God ( as well as Godess ) to those bordering on atheism . Each gives you food for thought and opportunity to evolve yourself . There has been a tradition of debates from the very beginning . There is single fixed book for Physics or Chemistry . Similarly z Hinduism has No single book . It is an evolving religion ( if you intend to word religion ) . Evolution works the level of society but it also work the individual .
My dear hindhu brothers can u telling how many hindhu gods and (india popualtion(how to coming cast fellings )(sathi sahagmanam imean husband die ready after dead body burning time his wife also burning with body )why hindhu temple on top nude lady statues )your home to u going out side any cat coming opposite y scared )i know hindhu books devi bhagavtham .garudha puranma .baghavthgetha so many i know but no use because the books talki ng about physical but bible talking about spirtiual every body know one day we lived our body but our spirit going god that one important okk (can ur people telling lord shiva marrige who )brothers iam also before hindhu (rama is ur god but iam say rama also not god because ravan coming take going sitta why he dont know take going before )but jesus say u not coming befor in this world i know u )god means fast teanse ,and presant tense ,and future tense he must know that is only jesus he die for me and die for u all about ur sin (ur people belive ur gods have sin correct baghvatha geetha inside alraedy krishna also tell redy ) iam telling u all one blind man another blinde man canot show way two blind man going drop inthe man hole )spiritual and physiali okk that one bible say (u r gods have sin he how take going ur spirit in heaven brothers )my english bad iknow but iwant know who is god i do want blime ur gods but must think about u r spirit after u go where who will be save (only jesus )
@@krishnareddygudimetla4862 mr reddy about ram he was born as a avatar and had limited capabilities according to the legends.the entire scripture is metaphorical.and coming to sati it is not sanctioned by any scripture and condemned as witchcraft in middle age scriptures and let us not forget the church was responsible for witch burning on charges of heresy.the nude depictions are not anything to be ashamed of.our society was at a time moreopen of these factors.the path of jesus is one of blind submission with expectation of reward but the upanishadic way is one of liberation from cycle of life and death.dont read your scriptures literally.i recommed you read asthvakra geeta.its one of the greatest pieces of advaita vednata and superior to any kind of abrahamic mythilogy
This is one of the best deconversion stories I've heard. You've confirmed again, that Christianity poisons people, then gives them the antidote, the side effects of which is a paralysed mind.
Can anybody tell me the time stamps in this video for when Jen explains Jesus? i.e. who and how she decided who he must have been or what ever her findings were as I don't need the entire bible deconstructed. I just want to know what she did with Jesus.
Well, at least we all know the one of the many prophecies in the bible has come to fruition. "There shall be a falling away." This person just proved it. If anything else, it brought me even closer to Christ. I hope I can finish the race.
Yes, exactly. I feel the same way.
@@dustistreet9503 You can make it Dusti street.When you have Christ you have everything. The word of God says. We can do all things through Jesus Christ who strengthens us. We are more than overcomers because as Jesus defeated Satan on the cross of Calvary. We too have the victory. He emptied himself on that cross, he gave his all, his life and arose on the 3rd day. He conquered and defeated satan once and for all eternity. He could not do anymore for us. He finished all he came to do on earth. His great Redemption plan worked! So now we can have eternal life. He fixed the gulf span that separated us from God. Praise God he is a good God!
My point exactly,I haven't even watched the video and know it's not for me to hear. The great falling away is truly happening,I have known many people like her that no longer believe and frankly is frightening to know that few will go to heaven and many will end up in hell. The enemy is winning yall and this is nothing but another confirmation of that😔
@@slimmychick45" Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Mathew 7:21
Remember who calls him Lord? We Christians do. Islam, Hindus, atheists don't ever call or refer to him as Lord.
"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Mathew 7:13-14
Mattew 7:21-24, Jen has Never known my Savior and He has NEVER known her. Yeshua says in this verse that many people are deceived into thinking they've been born again/regenerated when they have not been. Yeshua doesn't say that you were once mine but you left me, he says you were NEVER mine.
Thank you for sharing your story. I'm in Houston. As for me and my home, we will serve the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
What a wonderful woman!
Amen
You and the family better move to the promised land and start following the law
A SINGLE INSIGHT INTO YOURSELF IS MORE VALUABLE THAN ALL YOUR SCRIPTURES. A SINGLE GLIMPSE OF YOUR CONSCIOUSN AND AND YOU HAVE ENTERED THE REAL TEMPLE.
Nicole Jennings, you’re welcome. You are free to do what you want, but are spending one week a month in your backyard, your men are not trimming the corners of their beard, do you tithe your spices, and all your clothing is not mixed materials? There’s more, 613 to be exact. Be sure you follow ALL of them.
Fascinating! My journey and experience has been very similar, especially theologically. Though much suffering and loss has caused me to question some things.
I do have one question for you Jen. Where did you find the hard evidence that the New Testament writings, particularly Paul's, are forgeries rather than authentic?
Thanks for sharing. peace to you🌻
Thank you, again and again. Watching from Alaska.
This time I am downloading this so I will always have it .
Glad you enjoy it!
Growing up, if I got home to an empty house, I would panic and assume the rapture had come and I’d been left behind.
I remember the song saying “there’s no time to change your mind. The son has come, the demons dined. And you’ve been left behind.”
Thank you for this. ❤️
Glad it resonated with you!
@@JenFishburne Your story is quite fascinating, Jen. There's no mention of the one and only church of the apostles, the Catholic Church in your journey. You haven't done anything the Church hasn't done in her approx 2000 years tradition of scriptural interpretation and practice. I'm curious, do you know people like Bishop Robert Barron, Fr. Mitch Pacwa, Dr. Scott Hahn, Dr. Brant Pitre and many other Catholic biblical scholars and theologians. Since you are adept at researching, you could actually look into how the Church addresses these issues you've raised. But at the end of the day you will still need to discuss whatever you find with one or more experts in the Church.
You have to refute the Catholic Church's teachings to be sure that you've covered all bases and be intellectually justified in your position. It's only right that you do due diligence because the Church would argue that you are only refuting Protestantism and other perversions which the Church has condemned as heresies. The Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Timothy 3:15) and is infallible in her teachings because the Holy Spirit came upon Jesus' disciples as a Church and not as individuals. The Church, not the individuals, is protected from erroneous doctrine.
In fact, many, if not most of the heresies that have emerged over the centuries were invented by men of great intellect and with good intentions who were convinced that their understanding is the correct understanding. It would be interesting to know how much of the Early Church Fathers you have actually studied and understood.
Here's a list of heresies compiled by the Church in her 2000 year old history, see if you can identify any heresy you've spouted en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heresies_in_the_Catholic_Church
@@JenFishburne I'm almost ok with u in every thing as a muslim (u know the Quran tell us there r forged verses &falsifications in the bible..) but in the final part I disagree, it's not just "energy" that created us, look at our body & all the creation extremly sophisticated bio-machines showing intelligent design pattern, God in the islamic concept is beyond our imagination He Hears us in a perfect way but unlike how we hear & so on, God has all the perfect attributes. In Islam, we follow only what has been authentified; we have an extremly strict system of text authentification : verifying the reliability of every single narrator in the chain of narration for example even if one of the narrators in a chain of narration happened to be a guy who was caught lying or forgetting or or or..or even cheating against in animal baiting it with food to make it enter in it's local then didn't give it that food then the entire hadith would be dropped. I invite u to read the Qur'an & also there is a youtube channel called dawahwise they make live streaming with people of different faiths (Hashim & Mansur who made the channel r very experienced debaters in speakers corner u can find in CZcams many intresting videos where they debate trinitarians unitarians agnostics..)
@@JenFishburne I have been looking at so many things as of late. Have you heard or seen any information on the website Gaia.com? It is such an eye opener, also the books of Enoch have interesting stories 🤔. The big question I have always had why is the Vatican/pope the only say all be all of who sees or releases what the Bible, scrolls, or cannon should be allowed. 🤔
@@Lerian_V the Catholic Church is the great whore of Babylon.
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me" ---- john 10:27
i dunno mr Doo 40+ yer study on the bible learns Hebrew in Israel creates a channel and tells the world the there 2 different bibles perhaps this should be looked into ?
If you have Holy Spirit you hear from him. Period.
@@holyspiritwalker8343 PERIOD POINT BLANK
The Lost Sheep of the House of Israel were living in the nations 2000 years so no one living today is one of those sheep.
@@pitelf3852 quran has many versions
I sang that left behind song along with you. I was a teenager then and struggled to be a good Christian, having been converted by the good folks at Bible camp who told me I would go to hell if I didn't take Jesus as my saviour. I was 11 years old when I found out that I had nailed Jesus to the cross.
I 've just come across your site. I truly admire your talking so candidly and baring it all. I cannot claim to have done anywhere close as much studying as you have. HOWEVER with that been said I've always known at a deeper level that the bible is for the past. Agreed there's some beautiful teachings in the book. When I was introduced to the book "Journey of the Soul " by Dr Newton. That's when I had my Ah Ha moment. Wishing you much LOVE and Light. Thank you for sharing your wonderful journey 🙏🙏🙏
So sad... everybody would refer you to someone else, or their teachings. When the answer was simply to call on Jesus.
Call on Jesus to do what? Save the house of Israel in the last days? Jesus finished up 2,000 years ago and found all his special boys....sorry...you are not in the club
He never existed..
@@theatlantean8008 Question...how long have you been on the planet?
Calling on the creation will never yield any results. The creation is powerless to help itself, let alone help you or I.
@@theatlantean8008
Life is hard, sometimes I wonder why, then I remember thats life.
You can't always get what you want, especially in Gods world, for God knows what is truly best, so that is why we ask, and he answers as he wishes.
Because our will isn't supreme and good like his.
Before anyone leaves Christianity, read the story of Job. 💯🙏
I hate that story. So you think his grief could be errased by giving him a new family? And for what? A bet with satan? I hope someone got the translation wrong and messed the whole story up.
@@jerri1255 You really don't understand the power message that the story Job is saying. Read it, fully and think about it.
I do understand it.
Very weak
job ? where satan won a bet against God himself
come on the bible is so inconsistent with it's stories
seems to be due to the intervention of man altering it
I agree with you on many of your points. I only recently began considering audience relevance, but it has changed so much about how I understand the scriptures.
Thank you for making this video.
Watched a Thief in the Night at 9 yrs old at church. I was terrified I was going to have my head cut off in a guillotine and then spend an eternity in hell, especially after the pastor saying "None of us can ever be certain of our salvation." Can't tell you how many alter trips and private prayers I prayed. Took 40 yrs and a 10 yr stint working full time in ministry before I could begin to deconstruct. I had many issues with the church, especially when it came to a woman's role, and that was largely what got me to leave the church. But leaving Christianity began by finally studying the concept of hell. Once that fell, the whole house of cards fell. SO thankful to finally be free of it.
Most people have heard “Jesus/God loves you”. Does that mean they have a relationship with God and will go to heaven? Depends on the individual. A relationship is 2 sided, you receive love and you give love back. God showed His love by suffering, dying on the cross and rising from the dead for you, now you show Love back by repenting of your sins (lying, stealing, sexual sins, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) and believing in Jesus as your Lord and saviour so that Heaven is in your future not hell
Thank you so much for your video and honesty. I left Christianity witnessing how political it became in 2008 when my pastor encouraged the church not to vote for then presidential candidate Obama. The pastor openly made fun of his name in his sermon and I walked out. There was so much corruption including a cheating scandals amongst church leaders. Another reason I will never return to Christianity is due to my mom turning on me when I became a parent. I have never felt more uncomfortable witnessing hypocrisy from my mom. Acting Christian to her friends and our family but I'm a terrible parent. I'm thankful where I am in life. I no longer desire to please anyone as a Christian. Instead I serve my community humbly and maintain my spirituality as I see fit not as my mother, family or previous church does. I highly agree, you must do your research. I also find if a pastor or church attendee focus more on what they wear and how big the church is, I find people lose the meaning of what Christian means. It was a title to mean like Christ. If he existed, Christians should serve the community rather than create mega churches and design church cults with political agendas. I don't take the Bible seriously. I admire what you say that the Bible is bias. Especially since it was translated so many times. I low key wonder about other theories such as Lilith and Mary Magdalene along with cultural mythology. I wish more churches would take more responsibility to delivering more open conversations like yours. Thank you again! Your video has reinforced my belief that I am better off without Christianity.
Christianity is all about your relationship, your connection with God. If you look to other humans for what you need to do with your life and your faith things can easily go wrong. Trust in God. Someone created you, your Creator. This life is about getting past the material with a relationship between you and your Creator, our Creator, The Creator.
Saphique Femme (that's quite a name!) -- thank you for sharing. You have a great story. You become who YOU were meant to be and not who others tried to force you to be. It sounds like you have a fantastic story and you are on the right path!
If Jesus wasn't real, it doesn't matter if the stories about Lilith and Mary Magdalene are or not, does it? But they are interesting to read and learn.
Mike, having imaginary relationships with a fictional character may be fun, but it won't do much more than that.
The church has gone further right and have not spoken out against far right extremism. The message of Jesus Christ is being lost/
@@JenFishburne who gets to decide what is fictitious? What qualifies you as as the source of truth, if you don’t know God it doesn’t mean he doesn’t exist. I am an engineer , I guarantee your simple mind doesn’t understand physics like I do, so does physics not exist because you are ignorant of it? You have. O idea how simple you are yet you talk like you are someone wise.
Jen...do not put faith in the religion of Christianity and the people.
My faith in Christ does not depend on church or the Christian community, nor is it shattered if I hear about pedophiles and evils within the church.
My faith is in his word which is incorruptible.
I will pray that you will find him again...as I listened to you speak I sense that you are not at peace and still searching for something.
As Christ said "And if they think that darkness is light, how deep that darkness is indeed"
My faith is in his word which is incorruptible.
Which word? The Bible has errors and mistakes, the words written in there are not magical, never have been that is indoctrination from the church.
@@JustMe-wu9ig You can see Christ within the people who believe, and there are more of those who do good than who do not, there will always be some who you can find within any faith who are not good if you want to cherry pick.
@@thecommentschannel3548 Actually if you did your homework you would find that Historians (even secular) admit that scriptural errors are 95% spelling errors and 5 or less percent that have been changed don't effect at all the doctrine of Christianity. Most all scholars agree that Jesus existed, taught people that he was the son of God and his disciples thought they saw him rise from the dead, and willing died for that belief.
you don't die for something you know is a lie (and what's the point of Making it up if you know your life will be forfeit from it)
So you are left with two choices either Jesus was who he claimed to be or he was a liar and a lunatic, either way something did happen that changed the world forever.
Thanks for sharing. Are you familiar with the Skeptic's Annotated Bible? I'm curious what you think about that.
I'm always curious yet not know the direction. So, can you please suggest a book to read?
This video is great because it's unabashedly human. She doesn't claim to know everything or tell anyone what to do. She appeals to reason and reasonability, is skeptical of grandiose claims and guarded against allowing wishful thinking high jack her world view. There are a few weird tangents, but that only serves to make her come through as more believable and sincere.
It's easier and more comfortable to slip into a romanticized view. We tend to do this with celebrities or historical figures who have passed long ago. Such figures tend to have their good qualities enhanced or greatly exaggerated while any warts or negative traits are filtered out. That fish we caught keeps getting bigger every time the story is told right? I think she is brave and spot on to point out that this is very likely what happened with Jesus's story as well.
Unfortunately, most of the comments show that people are more comfortable sticking to their romanticized self serving views and shun anyone who threatens their comfy little dream world with critical thinking.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and experiences 🙏.
I don't find them to be weird tangents, I think she includes very interesting examples of how she was able to pick things apart to uncover several truths. Yes I agree that she does come across as very believable and sincere. And its a heck of a story that she would have tried very hard to condense with enough factual info to bring across her sincerity. Peace.
She believes in some weird energy woo. And young earth and denies evolution. Not exactly skeptical
@@a9c Where does she deny evolution or say anything about young earth? And weird energy is certainly there somehow, since there is enough evidence for it to experiment with it.
I noticed that a lot of people in the comments suggested doing things that she said she already did.
@@a9c you can be a sceptic and believe in all sorts of nonesence at the same time.
First of all because we are influenced by culture and the people we consider authorities. We cant explore everything i depth, and therefore accept some things as fact just because we at some point for some rreason accepted it as fact.
Second of all, or maybe in extention of what i claim above, sceptics are not above being psycologically trapped in a way of thought. An example of this in christianity could be: you need to question the bible, but if you question it too fundamentally, or before having studied the thing deeply, it may be the devil whispering in your ear, and therefore it becomes sinful and dangerous for your soul to explore the question you have outside of the bible. You are in that way forced to study the bible harder, and it will take longer to break put of the christian worldwiew. If you at the same time dont have the intellectial capabilities to study it like this baddass lady, you are pretty much stuck - untill something else makes you dare to question the bible.
- i hope that gave some insight .
Lastly i want to add that you can be completely naive and accept the world as round at the same time. All we can know for sure is something about this persons culture and worldwiew, it does not say anything about their sceptical abilities.
A great examle of this is the mainsteam acceptance of acupunkture as treatment for everything, as if there is real science behind it.
My mom's Mother was Baptist and my dad's Mother was Catholic.
So, we were baptized in the Catholic Church as babies.
My Father was an Earth mover and made road's. So up until 1964 we moved around alot so what ever Church would pick children up on a bus that is where we went .
Long story short I received Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior at 17 in a baptist church . Yet after 7 years I got so tired of hearing , " That may be what you think but that's not how it really is. So I stop going to organized religion and began my own search. I did exactly as you did. I loved my Strong's Concordance.
I am now 67 year's old and I know what I know beyond a shadow of a doubt . I have that Peace that PASSETH ALL UNDERSTANDING and I wouldn't trade that for anything. For Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior and no one can change that.
Thanks so much for your honesty. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and started studying the New Covenant on my own. See in the beginning I was sold out on the unconditional love and safety in the Saviour. Although having good intentions, when churches preach law it becomes a whole legalistic religious organization that robs us of our true identity and freedom that we are supposed to have.
What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the original Gospel says "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness/(okayness) as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel says "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven for ever". Religion says "You have to work to get close to God" the Gospel says "You cant get closer to your Father as He is in you and you are in Him". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace says "Dad loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE in this irreversibly restored relationship". Religion says "You are not good enough" and the true Gospel of Grace says "You are fully accepted, with a new heart which is righteous, holy and blameless. That's your identity, now live from your heart and be yourself". Religion is a bunch of rules to follow as a prerequisite to acceptance versus the Gospel of Grace providing immediate irreversible acceptance which will produce the "works"/performance over time, but our performance is SECONDARY to the "Work Christ did". This reveals a bit of what I found please see this link for more: czcams.com/video/RHxbZEwbhHg/video.html
This is 8 years later, if the true Gospel was preached people will break down the doors to get the Good News. In the mean-time I started a small bible study group where everyone is on the same level and unconditionally accepted, where everyone's opinion is valid and important. I guess the fight against the infiltration of religion is ongoing..
God's love.
Nicolas
Thankyou Jen you confirmed alot of my questions.Your life is simular to mine and I appreciate your honesty and desire for truth .Thanks again Blessings .
I absolutely love this! Especially the energy part at the end 1000 percent agree! 😊love this thank you for sharing. Subbed you! You speak so calm and eloquently really enjoyed this! I woke up and left Christianity too but yeah I just believe in a different way no religion!
Hell,loquently Dear brain-dirt I hope to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me too was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the true miracle ! !!Jealousy is my motive ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !
Do you think you could be wrong about nearly everything you spoke about?
Nope. She is not I am a Jew amd know hebrew and the correct.translation
Don't all critical thinkers think they could be wrong? It's the search for truth that keeps them seeking. Humanity would be better off if we questioned everything we are taught.
This is why I don't read anyone's book about God other than God's written word.
The word of God is ETERNAL. It never goes out of date.
Yes this is true for me too bless you
Amen.. I totally agree with you.
1 Corinthians 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
1 Corinthians 1:25
For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.
1 Corinthians 2:14
The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
2 Corinthians 4:3
And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.
2 Thessalonians 2:10
and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them.
1 Corinthians 1:23,24
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
Amen!
Me 2
This was great. Can you please provide any books or channels on here you’d recommend that talk about the electromagnetic view you just shared? Thank you!
Amazing video. Thank you for this and for everything you shared. I appreciate all your effort and detail.
Seek and ye shall find. Knock and the Door shall be opened.
The Christian church really left a bad taste in my mouth too, after years and years of attending, now I just believe and trust in Jesus Christ as my saviour and the leader of my life's journey...and cannot ask or "do" anything to gain Gods acceptance...
Amen! 🙏🏾
I am sorry for your pain, and Jen's too. I know what you're saying though. God loves us even if we never went to church. My heart breaks for her and other prominent church people who have recently denounced Christianity. So sad.
@@pilarskifamily899 Who’s Jen?
UR 2Compliant... Jen is the woman making this public video. 😉
We must obey Jesus and let Him, though the Holy Spirit, to lead us to a free sin life. Read Galatians 5 and Romans 6. We have to completly submit our will to the Holy Spirit so He can do His job to lead us in the whole Truth and to sanctify us until we sin no more. Sanctification is a process and takes time, but we have to stay under obedience the whole time.
Hi Jen. My name is Hoot(my given name) I am on a similar path as you, only mine started about 5 years ago, so I still try to make sense of the Bible, so you might say that I scratch my head a lot. You are amazing. such dedication to truth. when i transitioned from a faith based life to a truth based life, it cost me everything. my wife home friends. i question and challenge everything if it doesn't ring the bell of truth. your story is extraordinary and refreshing.keep up the good work. I'd like to hear more about what God is. I looked at protein machines in our cells and i cannot fathom how molecules can behave this way. I'm leaning on God being universal conscience and energy
Come on to simple to mist repent =see yourself deserving to died and receive his free gift of him dying at your place !
So many things I want to say in response to your video but to keep my comment short.....I will just say that your whole video resonated with me especially your closing statement. I now feel free to live and love others unconditionally....thank you! 🥰
Jesus said you can't enter the Kingdom of heaven unless you enter as a child.
To enter into Heaven is to be child like , meaning ,obedient & disciplined ,to correct our ugliness.. We need to be corrected. Jesus is not going to be provoked to go to Hell ,over his Creation. He speak law & this is why Tribulation . To beat us down ,so we do not try to be above God.
Before we reign w/ Christ. Jesus Loves You Ministry/Owl See The Truth, also for non believers. She is not having a relationship w/ Jesus, so sad.
She does not have a relationship w/ Jesus . Look at the relationships in the past or what she attracked. You can have all the knowledge in the world ,but if it hadn't made you a better person ,it's useless. JESUS LOVES YOU MINISTRY/OWL SEE THE TRUTH, ALSO FOR NON BELIEVERS. .
LOOK AT THE RELATIONSHIP W/HER & JESUS. SHE DOES NOT BELIEVE HE DIED FOR HER SINS. When Jesus asked .me if I was a Christian, I said yes because you died for my sins , & said no because I am not walking like him, this happen along time ago. She was listening to everyone ,just not Jesus. I don't care how much you read . In 1 Corinthians 13 ,it said you will only know in part. He is not going to have a relationship with her ,because she is not having a relationship w/ the word , who is the word ,John 1 . Did she really love him & not herself. She is NARCISSISTIC.
Amen and amen. We used to sing a song: "You gotta be a baby to go to heaven"
Can you live without money ?
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The words from the New Testament that most comes to mind as I listen to her story is "ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth". This woman has done a multitude of church and religious things, but not one word of her testimony suggests that she ever had a life-transforming encounter with Jesus Christ.
She never believed the gospel.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 ¶ For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
All I could hear was I, I, I
That is exactly what I heard, sounds like she walked away from the religion, never once did hear an account of meeting Jesus, that's why she could not fine Him. She was to busy looking for herself.
She is mixing pantheism & monism. This means she has called on spritists. You are not looking at a single individual here.
and what she has concluded in her thoughts in what she is claiming to be her own thought, like the institutes that she ran through, has holes.
She is into an old new age faith. It almost sounds like she sleeps with the ghana channel on. X yoga teacher here, she is a very confused individual.
In her extensive study is actually very limited. And she is also assuming in her statement, the new testament was written in hebrew, nope that was greek, and it was a not just any greek, Galilean Greek, these men were from Galilee, and that is further proof that Matthew and John wrote there gospels, and Luke and Mark were scribe to Peter and Paul, I am not sure why she would say they were not there ether, that would only be guess that she is basing her "findings" off of, and a statement calvin (whom was not a Christian) said, just based on the mens age, they would have been alive after and during Jesus life. Just cause mark and Luke were not disciples, doesn't mean they didn't follow Christ around...
she said she studied hebrew, well I was like what kind? And she never stated that the 1st 5 books are a Egyptian style Aramaic, she did not study language very well.
This is the trap people get themselves into, and her written dates are all over the place, those dates are false. Even google is closer to when the 4 gospels were written.
And again, its not about that at all. I got saved before I read the Bible. I have several friends who never attended events, never had a good intro to life with Christ, and because they asked, Jesus met them face to face. But that's the kind of statements that fall on deaf ears.
She keeps saying it's not new age, and Theosophical Society (1875), the Anthroposophical Society (1912), the Arcane School (1923), and the I AM movement (1930s) all spoke the same way. We need not investigate the unique teachings and features of each group, because she said most of it.
It is sufficient to recognize that spiritistic phenomena-that is connected with what she says she practiced and is practicing, contact with energy, from the beyond, such as “ascended masters”-was common in such groups. she is talking about a style of Gnosticism that came from native americans. In so many words she has found a science way to contact the very one she doesn't think exist. They do this at cern.
The earth has received the embraces of the sun - Sitting Bull, Hunkpapa Teton Sioux.
She keeps saying not new age, and she is so deep in it now, she can't see she is at the base of it. This is the science of new age.
I would like to ask her who is speaking to us? Cause we all know it's not the Holy Spirit... Check the eyes, she met with everyone except Christ.
Pray for protection... Pray she will be released from this Spirit of deception. This is an example, in Hinduism of the Advaita Vedanta school, in some varieties of Kabbalistic Judaism, in Celtic spirituality, and in Sufi...
She turned to everyone but Christ
It’s a lot of people out there like her. Jesus did say there would be a great falling away. I pray her salvation in Christ.
Lol...she spent a her time explaining to you how you've been fed fairytales and you're here telling her to believe in fairytales.
Thank you for sharing your story. I've been trying to figure out how to tell my own. This is a real inspiration.
I think we are related. I cannot put more info on this platform. Does the Huguenot mean anything to you? 🌹
Inspiration boy I hope to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !
Dam*, I Wish We’d All Been Ready brings me back.. I remember hearing D.C. Talk sing this for the first time and that song has never left me, it’s extreme powerful and pure,
Even tho my views have changed, that doesn’t mean other people’s beliefs don’t have some kind of reasoning for them, even tho they may not be legit reasons, rooted in reality, it’s still a beautiful and heartfelt song
After many years of research about the purpose of life, I studied, new age, luciférien books every thing I could, until nothing was wright. I personally did received the love of God in my soul, it’s a love you received by grace and it can not be explained except that once received you are change forever....your kind of born again, because you KNOW! Even after my experience of love I doubted...really! Until I opened an old book of Alister Crowley and received a message in my left ear, from a language that doesn’t exit on earth, but my soul understood.....that again it’s difficult to explained but it happen. The message was : only love is important. At that precise moment, I burn every occult books I had and started to believed in God and read the Bible . I understood why I received a message in angel’s language, I understood why bad things happen in our lives.God is testing your faith and love for him. By studying everything on the Bible like you did, you decided to classified God like only humain can do. The devil his in the details. But our creator is simple, loving and waiting for you to stop taking part of men’s made church. Yes I know the Bible has probably been twisted by man a bit, but the Bible have many level of understanding, the real God message is under a few layers of understanding.It’s now the time for you to stop studying it for facts, tangible history.Once you asked for spiritual level of understanding of the Bible you no longer drinking milk but honey or wine. And yes Jesus exist he is alive , His the words of God, the light, the way...like the Bible. And the Bible is alive...kind of crazy right, but stop studying with brain and start studying with you love and soul. You will see. I have faith in God , the I Am, to show you the way.
Hallelujah. The Holy Spirit "sprinkled, me as I read your testimony! He reigns!
Man, are you ok?
@@christinesbetterknitting4533 wonderful, praise God and his Holy Spirit ! Enjoyed that precious moment and keep it safe in your heart and soul, because life continue and the feeling may start to fade-away...because time and regular life happens! So to keep it alive you have to praise God and do what’s good : Love God with all your heart. Love others like yourself, with love, even the ennemies. Because at the end, only Love is important....the exact message that Jesus came to teach us!
@@papasitomamasita of course I am! But I understand your concerns, it’s really hard to explained to others when something extraordinary like that happen. Not only I’m privileged but the first experience a doubted it, so for you that didn’t experienced it , it’s hard to believe. My second experience, It shoched me to the core and I even asked my doctors for a brain scan, because let’s face it, I heard a voice from a language that doesn’t exist on earth that voice my brain couldn’t understood but my soul did, so what can I said, the scan came negatif, it happen once and because of that I started to read the bible, and then I understood what happen. I don’t remember the exact scripture but their a place where it clearly explained our faith and believes in Him, God, and that if he needs to he will talk to us in angel language to make us believe. After that scripture I understood, I wasn’t crazy. When I received His love years before (first experience, I was born again and save) and I came back to my old stuff, my old occult book our Father decided to gave me a lesson, that I would never forget, THE voice, the message. It scared me so much. But I stay on the narrow path now, no more new age, magic, occult book. I really hope you’ll experience it one day, you’ll see.🤩😇
I also became a new ager during my catholic adult years. In all my yrs of confusion and anxieties and seeking, i thought new age was harmless and even offers answers i cannot find in my prev reigion. But Jesus was indeed gracious
This lady is literally rehearsing my journey. She asked the same questions I asked after studying theology at university.
1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness. You wont find your questions about God in a school/university.
Read Noble Quran all ur questions will b answered
@@tsdthaclick Where in Bible Jesus in Red letters said I am God Worship me n I came to Die for ur sins?
@Riddle me this My friend, while I disagree with her, may we not try to ridicule or speak for her, give her the opportunity to be real, which she's being please......
@@tsdthaclick "For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. " How do you find the right religion if youre not allowed to ask? Which is the right one? Moromon, JW, Catholic, Lutheran... There are over 100 of those in Christianity and maybe 1000 or more for all religions that exited, exist or will exist in the future.
Your video popped up in my feed because I've been exploring my faith a lot lately. My comment to you is: well said. I appreciate the story of your faith journey. My path has been similar though not nearly as intense as yours. Sometimes I think humanity has made spirituality and faith much too complicated. For me, now, I use the stories, parables, and other metaphorical language of the Bible to help me live a good life. Micah 6:8 is my go-to verse for daily living. Be well.
Thank you for sharing your story. I fully agree that love is the universal religion for a better world.
People can believe or disbelieve on everything, but until we experienced it then it's a truth. In spirituality it's better to be a seeker than a believer, so keep on seeking. Life is a quest.
Love your comment..."Love is the universal religion for a better world!" But I will change it a bit..."Love is the universal belief and reality that will change the world."
Too many have already died on this planet at the hands of other human beings, in the name and belief of religion!
Seeker I hope to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the true miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !
This happens when people follow people and not Jesus! When you go into your inner room don’t take people with you pray yourself you find Him,your problem is you think Jesus is not enough
You didn't listen to the whole video.
She was very clear about all of that.
Yes, being spiritual is important, the problem is the overcomplicated Jewish/Hebrew history tied to what we call religion or Christianity.
@@thecommentschannel3548 old testament is for the jews, new testament for the church. Its not that complicated
She found the truth. You assume it.
um you seem confused , God commands us to work out our salvation it seem she is in the middle of that God also commands us to be like God i'm relatively sure that takes experience , you seem as tho your ready for judgement day and ready to assist in fact relaying i harking unto you don't do that God is the only judge and conversely says don't do that or you will incur said judgement ,Omg did i just do that full circle , gads that's the second time today , good evening
It is difficult to understand how someone who spent so many years adamant about facts and details would leave the only truth of Christ and deny the power of God. When I was a teen I experienced the Holy Spirit. Now at 60 years old I still know and remember that experience. She simply must have never met Christ for real. There is no way to deny God once He is revealed to you.
I agree with you Darius,I was saved at 51 years old, am now 82 and in those 31 years I have experienced many miracles, that only my God can do. Have laid hans on may people as the Lord directed me and the results have been 100% He never fails. this lady is a head knowledge person only. She quotes as fact that the Gospels were written by some mysterious person, some fact!
Fully agree with you Once the Lord touches us, we never forget and we are changed forever !
True words. I was a hard hearted witch. Then I met the Holy Spirit no looking back from there.
Will you pray for me that I will find God
Amen!! Just head knowledge
What an amazing woman, great intellect and tenacity, thank you so much.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience. May I ask if you have read something about Islam at some point in your journey?
And after a hour of listening I still love Jesus there’s a lot of things in this world we don’t understand and just because you do not understand does not mean it doesn’t exist . Faith !
Nor does it mean we will fully be able to nearly package Yehovah and His Way to redeem all mankind (adams) ... it just seems like she “studied” her way into a corner like a painter... sad
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"Faith is the excuse people give for believing something without a good reason. If they had a good reason they wouldn't need faith." - Matt Dillahunty
@@killadrew this world gives ppl more then a good enough reason to have faith .
@@killadrew What was the original issue between man and God? Why did man fall? Could it be the LACK of faith in God?
So sad. This lovely lady lost sight of Jesus and His sacrifice of love. May The Lord restore you and heal you with His touch of love.
I know I kind of feel sorry for her satan has deceived her for sure
I lost sight of a fictional character, on purpose.
@@JenFishburne If you haven’t watched this yet please just give it a chance and be open!
@@ZyrnC you seriously don't think she gave Jesus a chance?
@@priscilladevi9705 that is somewhat bias to think that even though we have the freedom to think and choose, that if you leave Christianity then you automatically following Satan. No other way of life. Your just a Christian defender without verification.
I know this because I follow God each and every day. I pray and read my Bible and seek His will. I listen and sing anointed gospel music. I was brought up in a spirit filled church, which is very difficult to find now. I follow Near Death Experiences that mirror Bible teachings. There are many, many things I do each and every day.
I'd like to believe that hell doesn't exist, but what about all the people that have a NDE, and return to say they have died and found themselves in hell?
I went Code Blue in July 2015 and I can assure you that there is indeed LIFE AFTER LIFE! And that Jesus is exactly who He said He was !
Amen saw him last year when I was in the hospital and almost died from Covid last year. Jesus has bronze skin, very blue eyes. Normal Angels 12 feet tall hair like fire. Arc Angels about 16 feet. Our loved ones maybe 19 years old, perfect. The very best hour of my life.
So did Marty Breeden see the same thing as Mark Baumgartner 🤔.
This would be a good way to test what you saw was real and not just your imagination.
Do your descriptions match other people's descriptions that had a similar experience?
Are you catholic.
@@Damian1975 Nope I started at Nazareen, became Baptist. Now a Non denominational, that grew out of East side Baptist church in Georgia. I go to North Metro Church in Marietta, Ga.
How is one saved
I admire your strength and courage to tell your story.
Thank you, Roman!
Courage I hope your video helps others to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !
Ma'am I really thank you for sharing all of this knowledge I have recently been on the same line of thought especially the scientific facts on how we are all connected together through our own vibrations and energies and so on. I will check out the rest of your research and carefully apply to my own and once again thanks and take care.
It is always disturbing that there are so many people who allow themselves to be abused by lucifer.
I enjoyed your story. I loved your message at the end about brotherly love. Glad you made it Christianity can be a prison and I hope more people find their way out. FYI - I'm an Atheist and my adventure was not as tough and involved as yours. However your experience through Christianity was fascinating. Thanks for putting this up!
@Lidia Magdalina We as Atheist don't have to explain anything. Christians on the other hand have to present their god or call it a day.
Science is true, the bible is not. Show me a scripture that helps Christians determine the rise and fall of the tides? How to predict when the tides will rise and fall and the real scientific reasons the tide rises and falls? The bible is your source for inner strength not for a way to live your life or understand how the REAL WORLD works! Keep it to yourselves don't burden me with your baggage.
Enjoyed I hope to slave themselves to atheism religion with the troue god hazard and pope darwin and all our priest in every school forcing your kids to accept the devilution religion !ps me to was an emotional christian and never receive more than emotions but for some who have really repent they are the true miracle ! And keep up tyrannize Christianity cause you chose the dark side now, evil brother .we have video sacrifices killing baby one day before they are born so lovely . enjoy all the pleasure of the flesh !
I enjoyed your testimony very much. I love Jesus and the whole story of Scripture. Our Creator speaks to us in ways that make sense to us. The evidence that we are on the right track is the fruit in our lives. Are we loving? Do we care for others in a selfless manner? We can learn and follow principles that the biblical writings show us. God is far more than we can understand, wonderful, holy and beyond what we can full understand. That's okay. God is good. I loved God in Sunday school and in Seminary and even now after decades of following my faith. Loving all people is what it's all about.
Beautifully said, my friend. god works with us, individually, as a loving Father. Sadly, too many people think that they must have all the answers right NOW, and are not Patient to grow. I hope a thousand people read your gentle words, and then The Word of God.
You are blowing my mind! I love it.
Wow your testimony is extremely powerful thanks for sharing