Thanks for testing and sharing your results. I've never tested as you have but I've read and you commented that your 5/8" hose is expanding. When your hose does this while wrapped on the reel it is constricting itself. I've learned that you need to remove all of the hose from the reel before use for maximum performance and to extend the life of the hose and the reel. Allowing all of the hose to expand unrestricted may give you different results. If you do test it in this way please let us know your findings. Again thanks for the info.
I think you should have used the old gun for both tests for a more accurate reading considering the new gun only gave you a 1 gallon difference. Not sure if you have to break the gun in or whatever, but in general whenever your running tests; only change one aspect during the the tests.
Increasing hose diameter won't increase throw distance, since it decreases the velocity of the chemical. To increase velocity, and thereby throw distance you can either increase flow from the pump or decrease hose diameter. It's Bernoulli's principle at work.
I understand what you're getting at. However, nozzle at the end of the gun is what increases the velocity in this case. Feeding the nozzle with more volume and pressure will increase the throw. In this case, only the volume would increase. The pressure stays the same if the nozzle stays the same. There is a sweet spot (orifice size) for each configuration. Simply reducing the nozzle doesn't always mean the throw will be further. If you take into consideration the laminar flow and turbulence, increasing the diameter will have a useful effect if the optimal orifice is chosen. But the problem lies in the lack of some of our guns fixed nozzles. For instance my wash down gun is rated for 16gpm. My pump is say 10 gpm at the gun. This really means the nozzle is too big for optimal performance. We really need several sizes of wash down guns to fiddle with.
@@housewashing5693 The thing is; when you run chem through the smaller line it moves faster, then when it goes through the nozzle it goes even faster, so you gain some throw distance. With the AR45 you're not hurting for throw distance anyway.
Your getting some restriction sending chems/water thru your hose reel. Only use your hose reels for storage. Use two sections of 5/8 diameter hose each 100’ long and connect them together when you need a full 200’. Some times you may only need 100’, then just pull this off the reel, connect to your pump. Use simple gardenhose fittings for everything. This gives you more flow and is very simple. I do this with all my hose reels. In fact my water supply flexilla hose I have 3 sections of 75’ long and only pull off the reel what I need for the job. It also avoids SH going thru all the internals of your hose reels making a lot less servicing.
Cody from Southeast softwash just did a video on this a few months ago and it definitely puts out more footage but I don't know how much more water is pushing I haven't seen anybody do any actual studies although I haven't really looked so I'm not saying there isn't but I do think you definitely get more flow with 5/8 but I was told to go to three-quarter which is in between 5/8 and half so you can still keep up pressure... I'm still a rookie at rookie medium ....I'm looking at rookie Pro soon
I am not sure which hose is best either. I had a the same dilemma, but in revers with a air diaphragm roof pump. I downsized after blowing a line and wasn't sure if losing a little flow was a good idea but I figured that roof cleaning always meant dragging the 5/8" hose up ladders so I was better off with a lower weight.
Hi Kenny, Thanks for this video, you have just saved me some money. I was going to switch from 1/2" to 5/8" to gain more distance. The gun swivels are a joke, they say 1/2" but they have a 3/8" bore. I found a high flow swivel and that has a bore of about 7/16". To be honest, I really didn't notice a difference. It's a strange business. Thanks again for the info.👍
The 5/8 hose expansion is a great reason your whip lines should be 3/4 to 1". It really helps your pumps. Running 3/4 whip, 3/4 hose manifold to 25ft of 3/4 high pressure off the reel first will improve everything. Better flow, and less trigger shock. Think with the pumps under 150psi the 5/8 makes a huge difference. My booster with 1/2 hose sucked.
I used to use 150' of 5/8 clear poly braided hose, it's very stiff why I didn't like it at first. Then installed Flextec AG 5/8 hose and it not only expanded outward it also kinked alot as well. Haven't tried Kuritec, but the poly braided hose is the clearly the winner without expansion loss and hardly any kinking. Distance was obviously better with the Poly before I installed the Flextec and will be going back to Poly. Thanks for the videos appreciate that!
I feel silly asking this, but what’s your camera set up? Seems so smooth to clip on and I can’t tell how big the camera is. It’s attached to your hat right, can’t be that big. Any chance you could link where you bought it? I’m a newbie in the industry. I really really appreciate your brutal honesty. Thank you
Hey my good man I'm a subscriber I just want to give you information where do you buy that the blue handle sprayer and brass connection anyway you could send me a scription or how where you bought it so I could click to it
I would say it's 80%. It's as good as it's going to get. It hurts all the time. I can't play softball, tennis, golf etc. I hope I can still throw a fishing line? I take quit a bit of Ibuprofen before, during and after jobs. The Little Giant ladder really took a lot from me.
I am running a gas powered soft wash with 300' feet of 1/2" and getting a little over 5 gallons a minute when it should be closer to 11. Do you think reducing the hose to 200 ft but going with 5/8" would make the difference?
I know for a fact some people get 11gpm out of the gun in ar 45, Texas Pressure washing has videos on it. Did you figure out what’s choking your system ?
I’m thinking if your the red hose expands it might last longer than the blue hose. You’re saving on chemical if you’re putting out less gallons per minute timer thing, I don’t know I am. Most important change your feed line hose to the same size that’s going to be key 🔑 make sure your fed hose is same size our bigger !!!! 5/8 - 1 inch Line make sure you have 3/4 manifold in your real, not half inch , also make sure the hose is stretched off the rail all the way . Let’s is no what happened when you do the next test and if your reel is 1/2 or 3/4 without using reducers
I'm new and think about getting into soft washing. If I have a 7gpm 12v pump with 3/4in outlets could I use a 3/4 x 100ft hose to get the most out of it. Or would that 3/4in hose be to heavy to work with? If so then what size would be the best?
It depends on how good the insulation looks? Even when they look good I lightly mist around the wires. If the insulation looks bad I stay a couple of feet away from then especially the chem. I tell the homeowners I'm not washing too close to bad wiring.
@@calklobuchar If they look good and safe I'll mist right up to the wires quickly. There is enough mist to clean up to the wires. Then rinse normal. But it's all about your visual inspection of each service cable on every house. I really don't have a solid answer. Most are good. Some are marginal. Some are bad and dangerous.
While I will agree with you don't save much time in a wall and the hose my link easier. I would like to point out that the volume is much better especially if you use it for a roof rinse. Going from 7 gallons a minute to 9-1/2 gpm is over a twenty percent gain. So for rinsing a roof. Or a real long drive way is a big deal. Same goes for soaking a air ton of plants... I ordered a 5/8 for the new rig I'm building (different brand). It is heavy but it seems to be a little smoother on the out side and not quite as flexible as the one you had. Waiting for the electric reel to arrive then I can test it out. I'm WAY to lazy to hand crank this in... hopefully the smoother outside will make dragging it around a little easier. Will let ya know here in about a week ...
lots of folks say you gotta use 1/2 inch hose when using 10gpm or higher output pressure washer. those same folks have absolutely no idea what they're talking about!
@@crystalclearwindowsllc The seals are the exact same in both types of guns. So they both will start leaking at about 100 plus houses. So why pay a ton for stainless? That's my reasoning at the moment.
Hi Kenny 👋 great video as always 👍 Can you help me figure out how to plumb this 8 gpm honda? I have 2 pressure washers running off the same 200 gallon water tank and the place that plumbed it . I hate it.. and i think its not correct. I do not know how to send pictures on utube. Can you send me your email or phone number? I will pay you Thank you so much! 🙏
Sometimes it's best to leave "well enough" alone. I mean if it's working don't worry too much about it. My email is mowerdog@gmail.com if you want to send some photos or video?
thanks for responding... hahaha i actually use that sain " if its not broke... why fix it " Its just i know it should be better. The guy popped a whole in my 200 gallon water tank in the top. Didn't use bulk head fitting. It looks like crap. Ill send pictures via email and this way you can see . I am terrible at writing and explaining. Thank you so much Kenny .
You had me worried. It’s great to see back. Just love seeing you explore.
Love from the land down under 🇦🇺
I've just been busy. Thanks for thinking about me
Thanks for testing and sharing your results.
I've never tested as you have but I've read and you commented that your 5/8" hose is expanding.
When your hose does this while wrapped on the reel it is constricting itself.
I've learned that you need to remove all of the hose from the reel before use for maximum performance and to extend the life of the hose and the reel.
Allowing all of the hose to expand unrestricted may give you different results.
If you do test it in this way please let us know your findings.
Again thanks for the info.
Yes. This 5/8 hose was rubber. The ag hose is more like harder plastic. I probably should have tried 5/8 ag hose......
Another great video buddy
Hose reel fitting restrictions plus hose being rolled onto the reel while spraying are performance negatives. Great vid!
True and thanks!
And also the 58 holes is an excellent choice to buy a little bigger
Yes, i went from 4gpm to 5gpm on my pressure washer and it makes a big difference. upgraded to 5/8 on my 7gpm 12v and it works better.
I think you should have used the old gun for both tests for a more accurate reading considering the new gun only gave you a 1 gallon difference. Not sure if you have to break the gun in or whatever, but in general whenever your running tests; only change one aspect during the the tests.
Increasing hose diameter won't increase throw distance, since it decreases the velocity of the chemical. To increase velocity, and thereby throw distance you can either increase flow from the pump or decrease hose diameter. It's Bernoulli's principle at work.
I understand what you're getting at. However, nozzle at the end of the gun is what increases the velocity in this case. Feeding the nozzle with more volume and pressure will increase the throw. In this case, only the volume would increase. The pressure stays the same if the nozzle stays the same. There is a sweet spot (orifice size) for each configuration. Simply reducing the nozzle doesn't always mean the throw will be further. If you take into consideration the laminar flow and turbulence, increasing the diameter will have a useful effect if the optimal orifice is chosen. But the problem lies in the lack of some of our guns fixed nozzles. For instance my wash down gun is rated for 16gpm. My pump is say 10 gpm at the gun. This really means the nozzle is too big for optimal performance. We really need several sizes of wash down guns to fiddle with.
@@housewashing5693 The thing is; when you run chem through the smaller line it moves faster, then when it goes through the nozzle it goes even faster, so you gain some throw distance. With the AR45 you're not hurting for throw distance anyway.
Your getting some restriction sending chems/water thru your hose reel. Only use your hose reels for storage. Use two sections of 5/8 diameter hose each 100’ long and connect them together when you need a full 200’. Some times you may only need 100’, then just pull this off the reel, connect to your pump. Use simple gardenhose fittings for everything. This gives you more flow and is very simple. I do this with all my hose reels. In fact my water supply flexilla hose I have 3 sections of 75’ long and only pull off the reel what I need for the job. It also avoids SH going thru all the internals of your hose reels making a lot less servicing.
I know what you're saying but I like the ease of just using the reel connected to my pump. At least right now I do. LOL. Thanks
Agreed
Cody from Southeast softwash just did a video on this a few months ago and it definitely puts out more footage but I don't know how much more water is pushing I haven't seen anybody do any actual studies although I haven't really looked so I'm not saying there isn't but I do think you definitely get more flow with 5/8 but I was told to go to three-quarter which is in between 5/8 and half so you can still keep up pressure... I'm still a rookie at rookie medium ....I'm looking at rookie Pro soon
@@ryanstropicalplantsoutdoor19893/4” is not between 1/2” & 5/8” 🙈
3/4 = 6/8
5/8 = 5/8
1/2 = 4/8
Signed,
Your 6th grade math teacher.
3/4 is not not between 1/2 and 5/8….
I am not sure which hose is best either. I had a the same dilemma, but in revers with a air diaphragm roof pump. I downsized after blowing a line and wasn't sure if losing a little flow was a good idea but I figured that roof cleaning always meant dragging the 5/8" hose up ladders so I was better off with a lower weight.
Great point!
Hi Kenny,
Thanks for this video, you have just saved me some money. I was going to switch from 1/2" to 5/8" to gain more distance. The gun swivels are a joke, they say 1/2" but they have a 3/8" bore. I found a high flow swivel and that has a bore of about 7/16". To be honest, I really didn't notice a difference. It's a strange business.
Thanks again for the info.👍
Yeah. I'm going to put my 1/2 hose back on.
Did you end up putting your 1/2 back ?
The 5/8 hose expansion is a great reason your whip lines should be 3/4 to 1". It really helps your pumps.
Running 3/4 whip, 3/4 hose manifold to 25ft of 3/4 high pressure off the reel first will improve everything. Better flow, and less trigger shock.
Think with the pumps under 150psi the 5/8 makes a huge difference. My booster with 1/2 hose sucked.
I used to use 150' of 5/8 clear poly braided hose, it's very stiff why I didn't like it at first. Then installed Flextec AG 5/8 hose and it not only expanded outward it also kinked alot as well. Haven't tried Kuritec, but the poly braided hose is the clearly the winner without expansion loss and hardly any kinking. Distance was obviously better with the Poly before I installed the Flextec and will be going back to Poly. Thanks for the videos appreciate that!
Spoiler alert. I put my old hose back on
Kuri tech is pretty badass. I have had them for years.
How much did you pay for the soft wash pump and do you have a video on how to plumb to the tank?
I feel silly asking this, but what’s your camera set up? Seems so smooth to clip on and I can’t tell how big the camera is. It’s attached to your hat right, can’t be that big. Any chance you could link where you bought it?
I’m a newbie in the industry. I really really appreciate your brutal honesty. Thank you
Gopro sessions 4. It's fits under the bill of my hat.amzn.to/40yEINI
Hey my good man I'm a subscriber I just want to give you information where do you buy that the blue handle sprayer and brass connection anyway you could send me a scription or how where you bought it so I could click to it
Where did you get that 1/2 swivel for the blue gun? I have one for my softwash but it's brass and don't think it'll last long
Dultmeier. It was about $45
Hello Kenny. Another nice video. How’s the shoulder??
I would say it's 80%. It's as good as it's going to get. It hurts all the time. I can't play softball, tennis, golf etc. I hope I can still throw a fishing line? I take quit a bit of Ibuprofen before, during and after jobs. The Little Giant ladder really took a lot from me.
Good video. Don't much like hearing the chewing on my ear though 😂
What pump is on the gas motor?
What were your plumbing internals like ?
Dose 5/8 make that much of a difference in terms of reaching heights is it that’s significant where it’s worth jumping up to 5/8 ?
It can't hurt. I think I would have been fine buying 5/8 ag hose but not the rubber. I just didn't like the noodly rubber.
Is it better to do a bucket test with the hose fully reeled in and fully reeled out ..
You'll get better volume with it unrolled.
I am running a gas powered soft wash with 300' feet of 1/2" and getting a little over 5 gallons a minute when it should be closer to 11. Do you think reducing the hose to 200 ft but going with 5/8" would make the difference?
Your output is normal for 1/2 hose and 300FT. I only get a tiny bit better because I run 250'
I know for a fact some people get 11gpm out of the gun in ar 45, Texas Pressure washing has videos on it. Did you figure out what’s choking your system ?
I thought 7.5 gallons was good after going through 200ft of 1/2 hose. Can you give me a link to the video on the AR45? I would like to see that setup.
The heading states soft wash hose but your using a pressure washer power unit. correct?
No. It's a diaphragm pump. Max pressure is 290 lbs
I’m thinking if your the red hose expands it might last longer than the blue hose. You’re saving on chemical if you’re putting out less gallons per minute timer thing, I don’t know I am.
Most important change your feed line hose to the same size that’s going to be key 🔑 make sure your fed hose is same size our bigger !!!!
5/8 - 1 inch Line make sure you have 3/4 manifold in your real, not half inch , also make sure the hose is stretched off the rail all the way . Let’s is no what happened when you do the next test and if your reel is 1/2 or 3/4 without using reducers
I'm new and think about getting into soft washing. If I have a 7gpm 12v pump with 3/4in outlets could I use a 3/4 x 100ft hose to get the most out of it. Or would that 3/4in hose be to heavy to work with? If so then what size would be the best?
That will be super heavy. You only need 1/2. I really think your inlet and outlet of your pump is 1/2? Just check to verify.
@@housewashing5693 ok I will double check and thanks so much for the help! Your vids are great
@@esteBAM979 I think you tried to send me a link? Send it again or give me the model number and brand
What hose reel are you running and what brand of blue gun is that?
Titan reels. General Pump wash down gun
Where did you get the elbow from the reel to the hose ?
amzn.to/3A8vhcJ
@@housewashing5693 thank you so much!!
What do u recommend you do if you are washing a old house with a electrical line from the street going up to the Facia
It depends on how good the insulation looks? Even when they look good I lightly mist around the wires. If the insulation looks bad I stay a couple of feet away from then especially the chem. I tell the homeowners I'm not washing too close to bad wiring.
@@housewashing5693 you lightly mist them with sh? Or water?
@@calklobuchar If they look good and safe I'll mist right up to the wires quickly. There is enough mist to clean up to the wires. Then rinse normal. But it's all about your visual inspection of each service cable on every house. I really don't have a solid answer. Most are good. Some are marginal. Some are bad and dangerous.
While I will agree with you don't save much time in a wall and the hose my link easier. I would like to point out that the volume is much better especially if you use it for a roof rinse.
Going from 7 gallons a minute to 9-1/2 gpm is over a twenty percent gain. So for rinsing a roof. Or a real long drive way is a big deal. Same goes for soaking a air ton of plants... I ordered a 5/8 for the new rig I'm building (different brand). It is heavy but it seems to be a little smoother on the out side and not quite as flexible as the one you had. Waiting for the electric reel to arrive then I can test it out. I'm WAY to lazy to hand crank this in... hopefully the smoother outside will make dragging it around a little easier.
Will let ya know here in about a week ...
Just a question: won’t the bigger diameter hose result in less restriction thus prolonging the life of your pump?
That's a true statement.
Where did you get that blue gun?
amzn.to/4am9v3E
Go with 5/8 flexzilla garden hose more flow and lightweight
Do you use that for your soft wash house
@@danielcatches9376 Yes
Less pressure on your pump for sure.Save your pump from leeks,less pressure.?
What's the gun called?
General pump wash down gun. amzn.to/3P6ycGR
lots of folks say you gotta use 1/2 inch hose when using 10gpm or higher output pressure washer.
those same folks have absolutely no idea what they're talking about!
I have 6.5gpm what size hose u recommend?
Great video, just next time don’t chew gum while recording. The chewing amplified in the recorder.
👍💵
Couldn't you just screw the hose to the reel without cutting ✂️?
You could have purchased a 1/2" male thread to 5/8 " for your pump and not cut the hose. 😱
Great video. But we can do without the gum smacking. Lol
I'll put my teeth in next time
Omg I H8 when chemicals (or water)drip down my arm and into my shirt. Errrr.
I hear ya!!!
Bro SS red wash down gun Georgia Airless $110 dollars
My $60 wash down gun last for a year. I don't want to pay more for a SS steel gun that lasts for a year.
@@housewashing5693 I thought you said in the video 350 for a ss gun that's why I posted its not but 60 works too
@@crystalclearwindowsllc The seals are the exact same in both types of guns. So they both will start leaking at about 100 plus houses. So why pay a ton for stainless? That's my reasoning at the moment.
Bud light?
the freaking gum smacking
Hi handsome. After you do the hose swap. Immediately buy the following cryptocurrencies:XRP,XLM,XDC. GOD BLESS YOU.
The gum smacking made it hard to watch lol but I love your content!
I'll try to do better
Yup. Had me 100% watching until the gum started. Hard to watch on mute, but very educational as I build my first soft wash system! Thanks.
Chewing gum and making a video is really not a good idea
But the gum was free!
😂
Hi Kenny 👋 great video as always 👍
Can you help me figure out how to plumb this 8 gpm honda?
I have 2 pressure washers running off the same 200 gallon water tank and the place that plumbed it . I hate it.. and i think its not correct. I do not know how to send pictures on utube.
Can you send me your email or phone number? I will pay you
Thank you so much! 🙏
Sometimes it's best to leave "well enough" alone. I mean if it's working don't worry too much about it. My email is mowerdog@gmail.com if you want to send some photos or video?
thanks for responding... hahaha i actually use that sain " if its not broke... why fix it "
Its just i know it should be better.
The guy popped a whole in my 200 gallon water tank in the top. Didn't use bulk head fitting. It looks like crap.
Ill send pictures via email and this way you can see . I am terrible at writing and explaining.
Thank you so much Kenny .