How To Test Your Competitive Pokemon Teams
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0:00 Intro
0:20 - 3:38 Before Testing
3:39 - 6:46 During Testing
6:47 - 10:50 How to Know When You're Done
10:51 - 11:29 Outro
If you want to talk with me, get your teams rated, or you want a replay reviewed, you can contact me on Smogon (username Pinkacross), on Discord (tag: "pinkacross"), or by my gmail beigelordpkmn@gmail.com. You can also message me if you see me online on Pokemon Showdown, I'm always either on my Pinkacross account or Pinkacross Alt.
Credits to Nintendo for the original designs of the Pokemon present in the video.
One thing I forgot to mention is that YOU SHOULD TEST ON LADDER! Only playing against friends isn't a good way to test, since it won't give you a complete view of the tier. You can and should test with friends (especially when testing bad matchups) but your primary source of testing data should be the ladder on Showdown.
Ok
Not when you're prepping for draft tours tho...
@@josemanuelromeroperez5112 Especially when you're prepping for tours. Just hop on an alt account so nobody knows who you are, and test away. Just testing against friends for tournaments often leads to terrible teams-- I've been on teambuilding support in a lot of tournaments and ladder tested teams always perform best.
Well unless it’s draft, but that should be obvious
@@h2o684 Yes agreed, for draft games, facing friends is the best way to prepare.
I would be interested in seeing you fixing teams
Really cool vid
One thing I’d add to seeing which mons contribute is also looking at their movesets - I often find I have a mon that puts in work but I’m never clicking move 4 in tests, so it can be something else
That's a good point! This is definitely something to look out for.
I would extremely interested in you fixing a team!
Literally expected some small example like that in this video, so it’d be so cool to see an in-depth analysis of the process like that.
I think the "during testing" portion of this video is extremely important. Everything you've said is spot on and I find myself trying to put atleast one niche but effective mon on my teams all the time. It's also one of the reasons why I like running sticky webs because it enables some slighty slow (for OU standards) powerhouse pokemon that lay dormant in UU to be extremely viable.
If possible, can you give an example? I'm trying to learn how to make playable teams, and would appreciate some advice
@@Gold_Gamer_100 For example, A niche but effective mon that I put on one of my teams recently was Hydreigon. Normally this mon is quite subpar when it comes to surviving OU as it fears the faster pivots like cinderace, booster energy mons and fighting types, all of which are very common in OU. For base 98 speed it still will most likely be moving slower than these dangerous mons and wont have a chance have time to effectively get a nasty plot or threaten another mon.
However, looking at the good sides we can see it has the fantastic ability levitate which grants ground immunity. It has decent bulk being 90/90 for defense/special defense. Since it has levitate, only stealth rocks can hurt it on switch in and it doesn't do a lot of damage. You can tera ghost and completely shut down great tusk or some variants of extremekilling dragonite. You can tera poison and suddenly your only threat are psychic moves. If you have sticky web support that means those booster energy mons cant outspeed your earth powers, flash cannons, draco meteors or dark pulses. You can even take it a step further and add substitute + nasty plot and with solid prediction you can make a lot of space at the cost of being tied to two moves. With web support you also are suddenly faster than dragapult which was a huge threat and you can figure out if it's infliltrator/cursed body or clear body immediately and know what to do next.
Now in terms of making it fit on a team, Ribombee is what i consider extremely useful for controlling the speed issue so I'll start there. Next is making sure to have atleast multiple checks to enemy teams. I need webs up to be viable so I'll need a Gholdengo to stop their spins/defog. But gholdengo is weak to cinderace and the team is special heavy now, so I need physical walls such as Dondozo/Garchomp/Lando-T who can tank moved and dish out some damage. If I need immediate power i have to add a banded mon like a rillaboom or zamazenta. But lets all say you fuck up, which can happen from time to time, you need something you can fall back on such as a Kingambit/Walking Wake/Dragonite ect.
In this example, the team would be Ribombee, Hydreigon, Gholdengo, Zamazenta, Dondozo, Kingambit. From there it's testing and adjusting your team to figure out what threats you find common and knowing your answers.
How do you handle hazard removal and boots teams, though? Asking for a friend
Really good video, lots of principles and ideas here that I've found myself applying to my own team building lately but never really thought about
I’m quite better in doubles OU , but still play OU so this helped a lot for me , The teams I make are mostly somewhat more made for doubles
Very useful video, I am currently testing an Iron Valiant team, and I had not considered replacing Iron Valiant itself!
Love your content, as always
Thank you, Professor Pinkacross ❤
great video!! these are all really helpful for building better teams :D
I'm glad you enjoyed it! :]
Ive had a lot more success with my teams since i started watching your channel. Thank you.
It's my pleasure!
How to make sure you have a ghost resist and a dark resist:
Step 1: Add Kingambit to your team because it fits on almost every team.
Just add king gambit and your team is automatically good
Gen 9 on a nutshell
Perhaps not automatically good, but certainly automatically usable. Gambit is insane.
I‘m looking forward to your team testing bid
I enjoyed this
I’d enjoy watching the process, even if it took a long time to watch.. I’d get to it
Another video by the goat
LCZU players: " What lower tier?"
Haha I didn't think about that one
Very well done
Not gonna lie, one of the most frustrating things to building teams in OU is trying to cover for dark/fairy spam in this tier especially in King. I look at Kingambit in the builder and I despise it 😂 and it's the same way with Ghold too. Hopefully DLC 2 won't make me look at Kingambit checks/ Valiant checks/ or Ghold checks as a necessity. At least the lower tiers are fun af to play though. Don't have to think as much there building wise.
Yes OU building is very difficult but I hope that DLC 2 will improve things!
Yeah one of the constraints with current balance team building is that whatever you use to check Kingambit can get sat on by Ghold. It's the reason why GT is so popular, it's practically the only option that can kinda do both - but you run into cases like needing a switchin on a Ghold with tera available that doesn't have balloon popped etc.
yes, make this team testing video 👍🏼
Another banger
Yes yes yes yes yes, make a team!
"would you guys be interested in seeing..."
yes.
setter/healer/Roarer + a breaker + Two supports + one/two setupper +~ misc has Always been my mentality for "balance teams" , maybe not the best but in ladder kinda works i Guess
Not a terrible plan but I'd avoid such strict formats, it will limit your building.
I really like your vids they’re a huge help man, trying to get my damn Elo above 1200😂
At that point in the ladder attacking whats in front of you is really important. Try not to overthink and make plays all the time. Its a big trap. Play safe the first few turns, get a feeling of whether your opponent makes loads of reads or none at all. Can make it so easy to know what they'll do
Don't worry about low ELO, just enjoy the improvement process! The #1 thing to get above 1200 ELO is just practice. If you play enough games, suddenly you'll start winning more, and more, and more. :]
hi pinkacross! i’ve listened to ur advice and created a team based on tera fly 3 attack dragonite. i put sandy shocks as a setter with a positive matchup against zapdos, then a few other hyper offensive threats that imo fit the team well, along with healing wish on enamorus in case i need another attempt with dragonite since i don’t have roost or with manaphy after i used its custap for an initial sweep. if you ever do another fixing viewer teams video could you check it out? Thanks!
Sandy Shocks @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 48 Def / 208 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Spikes
- Earth Power
- Thunderbolt
- Stealth Rock
Dragonite @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Multiscale
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 104 HP / 252 Atk / 152 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Tera Blast
- Extreme Speed
- Earthquake
Enamorus @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Cute Charm
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Earth Power
- Mystical Fire
- Healing Wish
Great Tusk @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 132 HP / 4 Atk / 4 Def / 116 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Bulk Up
- Ice Spinner
- Headlong Rush
Manaphy @ Custap Berry
Ability: Hydration
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 104 HP / 252 SpA / 152 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tail Glow
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
Kingambit @ Lum Berry
Ability: Supreme Overlord
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Sucker Punch
- Iron Head
- Low Kick
Thanks for the submission, this looks really cool!
Sometimes I just sweep with some pokemon so it is kinda hard to test something on the ladder when a pokemon just sweeps entire teams like gambit or vally
how consistent is it in 1800 and above tho, even grinding an alt account to there will get you fighting a lot of battles which wouldn't be complete sweeps.
If you're sweeping every game, then you've got the perfect team, but I'm guessing you're still taking some losses. It's the games that you lose that reveal more about the team, and more about the adjustments you need to make. Pay attention to the losses and you'll be able to test effectively.
Please do a team fixing video. It’d be great to visualize all the advice you’ve given.
I do already have one team fixing video! I'm considering making one even more in-depth though.
I would like to see a guide about how to build bulky offense teams
Ez offense but just bulkier
King tusk ghold. They are always necessary
Good to know, this is in the works for the future!
@@Pam234 Not quite always but pretty damn near yea, especially Tusk and Gambit.
Is there any way I can submit a team to you for you to fix? I have an RU team I *feel* pretty confident with but i'm not sure if it got what it takes even after some testing (because I'm a casual player and I'm trying to improve)
You can contact me on Discord, email, Smogon, or Showdown (contact info in the description) or just send the team import over a youtube comment! I will say though, I know almost nothing about RU so I probably won't be able to help you too much, I mostly play OU.
I am leaving a comment
algo gang
Thank you!
When I go on ladder, a good way to tell if the opponent is good is, are they using lower tier pokemon? If they use pokemon RU to UUBL, with a few exceptions like toedscruel, then that shows they are good at team building. Doesn't mean using just OU mons is bad, but it shows they are creative.
Well not always
is there any way to make nplot tornt work on balance? it has such insane 4mss with it wanting taunt uturn knock heatwave bleakwind and focus blast but i feel like it has potential
I would say it's certainly possible but it needs to be supported heavily since it's a bit inconsistent. A Knock Off support set would fit much easier.
cool. i'm trying to retrofit a tornt+ meowscarada balance that i saw on an rmt to work with nasty plot tornt. i can send you the paste when i'm done!
6:20 Wait, Sun stall isn't good? *gasp*
Bro my team got swept by a kommo-o 😭
Kommo-o is a threatening sweeper, it could happen to any of us.
Random question who’s better competitively meow or dirge?
I would say Skeledirge, I think it's really underrated right now. Increased Knock Off distribution definitely hurts but Unaware is just so insane, and it stops a lot of nonsense. I'd say they're very close though, I'd put both of them in B+ or A-.
How do you even start building a team? I miss the good days of having a two Pokémon defensive core, one scarfer, a support mon and then a two Pokémon offensive core.
It’s obviously not that straight forward anymore… if I want to use CB Zamazenta, how do I make that work on a team? I spent two days trying to make CB Zama work and used obvious support mons like Slowking to make it threatening… but that just didn’t happen. I always found it so hard to get slowking in to set up a future sight and then pivot into Zama. I just don’t get how team building works anymore lol
Pink has a video on this exactly
Teambuilding is very difficult but with time, practice, and lots of testing it all comes together! I'd say keep trying, that core sounds solid. It won't be the right team the first time probably, most of my teams don't work that well without testing and adjustments. I haven't made a video on building Balance teams yet but it's certainly coming, and you can check out my videos on teambuilding mistakes if you want to fix some errors you may be making.
The thing is that nowadays good Pokemon fill so many roles at the same time thanks to Terastalization that it's hard to find the right pick. Also the meta completely changes from month to month, or even 2 weeks, so bad teams can become good and vice-versa. It's takes too much time imo. All this to say teambuilding is way too complex in gen 9 OU (and less rewarding) compared to other gens
@@melikmourali2072 I'd have to agree sadly. Teambuilding is extremely difficult this generation and you can still lose to Tera nonsense. Still, once DLC 2 is out, the game is probably going to stabilize and after some bans we'll have a metagame that rewards building more! Also new pokemon will make building more fun and diverse with more viable options.
Yeahh show us how its done personally hehe
I mean on a video lmao
Yeah but here’s a more important question.
What happened to Bluacross?
I had to end him. >:]
My team is so weak to indeedee/psychic terrain and I don’t know what to do
Add some steel and dark types and/or rillaboom/hrott
@@pinkacross2042 lol I literally just added both right before your reply . Thanks 🙏🏾
I actually only make good teams , so unfortunately this video isn’t really useful to me , maybe your next video could be “How to make teams like Daevank5”
What do you mean by hax? That's not an actual thing on Showdown right? Do you just mean extreme out of control luck?
Yeah hax is a community term referring to things happening that aren't guaranteed, like ice beam freezes, flinchs, getting full para'd stuff like that.
To expand on what Isaac had said, it sprung from the gut-reaction a lot of us had as a kid of feeling like confusion, fully paralyzed, etc and feel like the game was cheating us. When in a pvp environment, some people then, either jokingly or in seriousness, called them hacks, as in they were hacking the game to ensure good outcomes, which became hax.
These two have left very good explanations, and yes basically what I mean is bad luck.
Thanks boys, perfect explanation, I appreciate it :)
I have a team that I like using
Wyrdeer
A defiant Pokemon, I usually go with Ogerpon Teal
A competitive Pokemon, I usually go with Articuno
Flutter Mane
Brian Hands
With male Basculegion at the end
Edit: you ever miss icy wind 3 times in a row? 95% my ass
Flutter mane is banned
@@user-sk1cx8hj4o it's doubles, probably should've said that
@@EmeraldEleki7 I mostly play games and it's a decent team here
VGC*
Add some light bgm bro it's very plain on just hearing your voice(not bad thing but can get better)
Noted, thank you!
Surprisingly, he has. I hear some Gen 4 music, but it is very low. That could be more prominent.
@@iantaakalla8180 Yea if he's not hearing it at all, I should probably make it louder.
You play ADV?
I don't, but it seems really cool! I'm considering getting into it, but my main issue is that it feels like a solved metagame, with little room for teambuilding innovation.
If it's not much investment, I would love to see you dabble a bit. It's had quite a renaissance lately with Jimothy Cool's community, and he is also how I found your channel, so I think it would be a great full circle! I'd love to see your take on something other than TSS@@pinkacross2042
Uh mr pink team could u break it down and see if its good
Sure, send the team over!
@@pinkacross2042 how do i send it to you?
@@user-ip8ox5fq5m You can send it over Discord, email, Smogon, or Showdown (contact info in description) or just send the importable here as a youtube comment!