@@N279 it doesn't matter if you think ahead, the pressure is always in favor of the stall player, for you to break stall you need to shake earth by it's core, for a stall player to break other archetypes they literally need to do nothing
@@marcelomelo9977First of all, not literally, I hope you understand that simply waiting there isn’t an option for them. Second of all, I’m probably more firmly in the struggle bus than you youngin’s and your badly built HO teams. Losing more than a couple Pokemon kills stall dead, and on my end looking at your teams, I have to guess what nonsense set y’all are running. Best case scenario, it’s a sample team. Worst case scenario, it’s some unholy jank I couldn’t have predicted that instantly takes somebody out, and Tera makes that even worse. To win with stall, I have to be smarter than you, with the handicap of not knowing your team like you do. You can probably guess what my team does just looking at it, and I can’t with yours.
Anybody clicking Recover every turn is losing, badly, and is pretty much sacrificing any longterm value for trying to cheese damage rolls to live another day. Also please pick up a wallbreaker that doesn’t need setup moves if Unaware triggers you that bad
@@DiseasedMoss I've been addicted to opiates for years. Sorry to hear man, I know it's not funny I just use humor to cope at times. Ive came off heavy Vyvanse/Adderall and modafinil runs before and it's so bad if you've got stuff to do besides laying at home.
In the first battle Zomog went to jirachi because there’s the possibility that Greninja pops ice beam expecting the Lando switch, so jirachi was the safest switch overall
Yo, you talked about the timer in this vid, I remember I played you in an event and asked for tips and you said quit clicking so fast, there's a ton of time I have to think that I'm not using. I've tried to slow down and stop "under-thinking" my moves and it tends to make my play better. I still get impatient sometimes but that tip really helped. Just wanted to say I appreciate it and it's awesome that you're making vids like this to help me and others get better at the game
What you say about the timer and taking time to think about every possible move is so true in regards to improving your game! I can tell you I used to click much faster just a few months back and when playing in some freindlies Vs altina he told me to genuinely consider every move and just think through it, since implementing that to my game I reached grand finals of ADV summer seasonal and peaked number 1 on the ADV ladder over 1700 Elo, so I can't stress enough how much difference taking that time and exploring all options makes!
It’s true man, and it takes practice to do that too. I still fall into tunnel vision play at times where I just impulsively click buttons. You can say the same for high ladder. Usually I fall into that bad habit to get more games in
14:54 Love this line. You can *hear* the sarcasm in his voice and I love that there's this presumed player who doesn't think Gen 7 Tapu Lele Psychic will kill his Toxapex. In fact, give me one moment... USUM calc btw using the most standard sets: 252 SpA Choice Specs Tapu Lele Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Toxapex in Psychic Terrain: 408-482 (134.2 - 158.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO And Psychic does 122.3 - 144% so yeh.
A lot of good advice, I always realize after a bad play that “damn I played to quickly” and I have been doing it for three years. Now I’ll force myself to at least get to 10 seconds of timer to slow down and map out the whole game. I’ll come back here and give you even more thanks if and when I get to the top 300 of the OU ladder!
There was a time when I calced everything and my win rate went up. I stopped doing it because I thought I knew the calcs but I realized that the calc was not even just giving me the calc info but making me enter the set I thought my opponent was to the mons in the back to see how much they would take. Calcing does way more then just show you calves. I really should start calcing everything again
Yesterday i was watching you at 2am while cloning on my emerald. I accidently released my shiny abra. My first ever full odds hunt. He had hp dragon. Seeing the alakazam thumbnail today . Thanks i suppose. Ill be trying to reclaim him. 700 plus so far. Wish me luck plz
Can I make a case for the tactical advantage of making decisions quickly? Scenario: You lose a mon due to a crit or a miss, whatever the circumstance may be. You have a mon that is sometimes used as a revenge killer, say scarf Hydreigon. You haven't revealed your coverage move yet, or your item. If you instantly click Hydreigon its a lot more intimidating than mulling over a decision to bring out a mon that doesn't immediately threaten to punish. The speed in which you make decisions can inform your opponent of your intentions, but you can also use that to mislead. Not saying you shouldn't use your time to your advantage, because I absolutely agree.
I agree on principle, but this is assuming the player making such a move knows what they have to do already, whereas moving without knowing why you're doing it is what the timer is supposed to alleviate
Great video! I think this’ll help newer players realize how much information they have at their disposal without having to assume almost anything. Speaking of assuming, though, I’d like to point out something that could also be helpful for you in a battle (especially in a team tournament). So, turn 2 of the bro fist vs z0mog game: heatran clicks stealth rock as jirachi u-turns out and lando comes in. As you mentioned, we now know that z0mog’s jirachi is slow and bulky; however, the u-turn revealed a lot about the heatran set to z0mog. After calculating the damage, he knew it was offensive, but not only that; since no leftovers were shown you pretty much confirmed that the heatran is Z move (they don’t really run any other item apart from lefties and Z stones). Moreover, you know the reuniclus won’t be Z move and neither will greninja (though it might’ve revealed to be scarf already, idr who switched out first). But, and this is where the assumption comes in, during that wcop the players from US Northeast (bro fist’s team) liked to run modest stealth rock heatran with lava plume, earth power and z flash cannon. Since he’d been preparing for his match, z0mog most likely knew this, and thus could be wary of it clicking z on the fini, for example. It didn’t save him this time because bro fist was far ahead, but it could’ve.
Great video BKC, i started playing older gen OU because of your videos and your advices, practice and information are fundamental in pokemon, and yeah many people in ladder just hurry too much and don't consider the timer
Hey BKC! Have you ever considered taking the audio of your vids and uploading them as podcast material on Spotify w/e? Idk how it's for other viewers, but I more often than not listen to your videos and do something else on the side. Just a little thought I had during this. Nonetheless, keep up the great work!
Yo BKC. I just wanted to say that this has been very helpful to me. I am also the kind of player that just keeps mashing buttons. I literally used the timer to eat or do something else in between battles. I will also keep this mind and play at a better pace. Even I can tell myself that I was tilting and rushing through some games for example, when I don't scout grassium Tran or stuff. Also I want to say that I have really been enjoying your content as of late. I have not played any gens other than 7 and 8 but still you present the earlier gens such a way that it is still very enjoyable regardless. For instance, I really enjoyed that DPP ubers vid where you go over why Arceus was banned and then the viabilities of all mons in Ubers. I had been watching FSG for quite some time now so I should have known the quality would be maintained if not better not this channel too.
Re: 4:12 I strongly disagree with your argument that clicking quickly gives no reward. Clicking quickly gives a substantial advantage, as long as the move being clicked is a good move. 1. The most straight forward advantage that clicking quickly gives is not allowing your opponent to cancel their move. This has huge upside if your opponent ever makes a hasty mistake. 2. The next advantage is something I’ll call “establishing the 50-50.” When a player makes instant moves they are communicating to their opponent that “this was not a 50-50 to me, it was an obvious choice”. When both players are taking their time on a turn, it establishes a 50-50 scenario, because both players know that each other are considering between the (typically) 2 options. When this occurs, the odds you make the correct play will be closer to truly “50%-%50” than if you click instantly. The brunt of the prediction mind games is thus on the slow player. 3. The next advantage for players that click quickly is that a slow player will have to play quicker than they usually do to keep up with the fast player. This happens naturally, but if the slow player continues to play at his typical pace, he will end up in time trouble in the end game. When the slower player starts playing quicker than normal, he is more prone to mistakes.
I agree, but like you said, this is only if the move is good, which assumes that you are experienced enough to understand what these good moves are intuitively. less experienced players tend to burn through games without thinking about their moves and tend to let games get away fr them as a result.
Angry CZcamsr rages at instant gratification seeking adolescents frequenting children’s game errr I mean great video kev, couldn’t agree more with your insight
Hey BKC, just curious, when's that Passive Damage vid coming out? I know it's gonna be like 5+ hours lol, but passive damage is an extremely important facet if battling, except for Gen 1, and is something that a lot of newer players take for granted.
Will you ever cover some of the odd ball mons in BW OU? (A.K.A, Infernape, Conk, Donphan, Espeon, Gyarados, etc) Kinda want to see what the BW OU community thinks of these “mediocre” mons
@@vincent-ataramaniko Gyara is only B tier in the vr and Conk isn’t even ranked. My guess is that Gyara is difficult to splash outside of rain, and can’t really sweep in a meta where Washtom, Latios, and Ferrothorn are as good as ever. As for Conk, it faces heavy fighting type competition with Terrakion and Breloom, the former being fast, packing SD, having SpD enchanced by sand, and the latter being a Knock Off/Status absorber with nice defensive utility, while packing great dmg output. Conk has higher dmg output but is slow asf. Considering how splashable Breloom is, is it really worth giving up role compression for Conk? BW is in a state where defensive utility is highly prioritized, which is why mons like Infernape and Lucario fell off the meta while others didn’t. Just to give examples Latios: Immune to spikes, can potentially run Roost/Recover for longevity, ground immunity, can switch into Keldeo, Washtom, Breloom, and Tentacruel while being an absolute nuke. Keldeo: Resist Stealth Rocks, checks Ttar, Drill, Tran. Can run a Toxic + Protect set to wear down all of it’s counters except for Tentacruel, Amoonguss. Garchomp: Sets up rocks, immune to sand, can lure stuff like Skarm with Fire Blast, and can break Zam’s sash with Dual Chop. Thundy-T: Absorbs Volt Switch, immune to spikes, forces out non Rock Slide Drill and checks Breloom. Reuniclus: Immune to Sand and hazards which are a major part of the BW OU metagame, can 1v1 non Shadow Ball/Signal Beam Zam, is a strong wincon, and can keep itself alive with Recover. Alakazam: A fantastic rkiller, immune to spikes and sand, and hits like a truck. Hydreigon: Decent bulk, immune to spikes, amazing coverage, doesn’t care about Pursuit Tar, and can keep itself alive longer with Roost while sporting the amazing Dark/Dragon typing giving it some nice key resists like Water, electric, and an immunity to Psychic and Ground.
@@amphibiansriseup596 Conkeldurr is still used by a good amount of people, it's slower but far more bulky than Breloom, and a guts boosted mach punch is pretty good for the speed problem. I agree with you with the fact that BW is now kinda "static".
Why timer? When you could not and still take time? The only times I have to use the timer in my limited experience was when the other player rage quits and leaves the game running wanting me to leave so they get the win.
“these tools help you make more informed decisions” *stall player clicking recover on quagsire 14 times in a row*
The other player clicking eq 14 times in a row
Stall haters when you think ahead instead of clicking an attack every turn: 🤯🤯😡
@@N279 it doesn't matter if you think ahead, the pressure is always in favor of the stall player, for you to break stall you need to shake earth by it's core, for a stall player to break other archetypes they literally need to do nothing
@@marcelomelo9977First of all, not literally, I hope you understand that simply waiting there isn’t an option for them. Second of all, I’m probably more firmly in the struggle bus than you youngin’s and your badly built HO teams. Losing more than a couple Pokemon kills stall dead, and on my end looking at your teams, I have to guess what nonsense set y’all are running. Best case scenario, it’s a sample team. Worst case scenario, it’s some unholy jank I couldn’t have predicted that instantly takes somebody out, and Tera makes that even worse.
To win with stall, I have to be smarter than you, with the handicap of not knowing your team like you do. You can probably guess what my team does just looking at it, and I can’t with yours.
Anybody clicking Recover every turn is losing, badly, and is pretty much sacrificing any longterm value for trying to cheese damage rolls to live another day.
Also please pick up a wallbreaker that doesn’t need setup moves if Unaware triggers you that bad
The beginning emphasizing timer is a thinly veiled blunder diss track
These are facts.
Coulda ended the whole section with "in conclusion the agency may provide, but that doesn't mean you should always trust it to."
I don't think so. It's just good general advice. Just bc Blunder and CBB generally plays fast typically doesn't mean they don't think things through
@@14fluffies😮T guy just told you he has I don’t get the the the other house I got gym and gyyugghuuhihiijujhihihihiiihiiihhhhii
1. Watch bkc ladder vids on loop
2. Coke
3. Practice burning with scald
Meth> coke 🧊
@@tylerd1297 idk if joke but don't do drugs kids. Recovering from a nasty stimulant addiction right now and it feels like scald burns but on life
@@DiseasedMoss I've been addicted to opiates for years. Sorry to hear man, I know it's not funny I just use humor to cope at times. Ive came off heavy Vyvanse/Adderall and modafinil runs before and it's so bad if you've got stuff to do besides laying at home.
@@tylerd1297 I feel that last bit. And don't apologize, humor helps- and I started it
Wishing peace, love, and internet hugs, rock on
In the first battle Zomog went to jirachi because there’s the possibility that Greninja pops ice beam expecting the Lando switch, so jirachi was the safest switch overall
tip: use surf and hydro pump like a mo key
mo key gang
le mo key
Some people are really awful on the ladder
"You're not better if you click faster"
I can feel Blunder sweating
2:23 You've just given me an idea for a new Ferrothorn set
Banded Ferro was a BW thing, pretty funny honestly
the original banded pex
@@elitemagikarp4822 I don't think banded pex has ever been a thing?
@@crenando288 it's a meme
banded ferro is still worse than double dance but it's got it's niche
Yo, you talked about the timer in this vid, I remember I played you in an event and asked for tips and you said quit clicking so fast, there's a ton of time I have to think that I'm not using. I've tried to slow down and stop "under-thinking" my moves and it tends to make my play better. I still get impatient sometimes but that tip really helped. Just wanted to say I appreciate it and it's awesome that you're making vids like this to help me and others get better at the game
Being toxic on showdown ladder is an art form
you the goat for this one
implying bkc isn't always the goat
What you say about the timer and taking time to think about every possible move is so true in regards to improving your game! I can tell you I used to click much faster just a few months back and when playing in some freindlies Vs altina he told me to genuinely consider every move and just think through it, since implementing that to my game I reached grand finals of ADV summer seasonal and peaked number 1 on the ADV ladder over 1700 Elo, so I can't stress enough how much difference taking that time and exploring all options makes!
It’s true man, and it takes practice to do that too. I still fall into tunnel vision play at times where I just impulsively click buttons. You can say the same for high ladder. Usually I fall into that bad habit to get more games in
In my opinion, they should have some kind of special Ultra-Speed rounds where you only get 5 seconds to decide your move
i'm from the future blitz exists now
@@jetsarit8742 neat
14:54
Love this line. You can *hear* the sarcasm in his voice and I love that there's this presumed player who doesn't think Gen 7 Tapu Lele Psychic will kill his Toxapex. In fact, give me one moment...
USUM calc btw using the most standard sets:
252 SpA Choice Specs Tapu Lele Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Toxapex in Psychic Terrain: 408-482 (134.2 - 158.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
And Psychic does 122.3 - 144% so yeh.
hi bkc, youre a star!
:D
A lot of good advice, I always realize after a bad play that “damn I played to quickly” and I have been doing it for three years. Now I’ll force myself to at least get to 10 seconds of timer to slow down and map out the whole game. I’ll come back here and give you even more thanks if and when I get to the top 300 of the OU ladder!
so? hows it going
@@rya3 it's going well. Haven't been playing that consistently because of school. But slowly but surly improving
Thank you for this vid man. I’m an above average battler and have been stuck in that tier for a couple years, I wanna become a top tier Uber.
Best wishes for your future success then!
I love uber. Maybe one day we'll play together on a tour, who knows.
There was a time when I calced everything and my win rate went up. I stopped doing it because I thought I knew the calcs but I realized that the calc was not even just giving me the calc info but making me enter the set I thought my opponent was to the mons in the back to see how much they would take. Calcing does way more then just show you calves. I really should start calcing everything again
Yesterday i was watching you at 2am while cloning on my emerald. I accidently released my shiny abra. My first ever full odds hunt. He had hp dragon. Seeing the alakazam thumbnail today . Thanks i suppose. Ill be trying to reclaim him. 700 plus so far. Wish me luck plz
good luck
Good luck
You got this
Did u get it?
@@bullymaguire632 no still hunting over 2k almost 3k.. ill be doing gen 3 ou on gamecube with a homie of mine so i gotta do gba breeding and stuff
Can I make a case for the tactical advantage of making decisions quickly?
Scenario: You lose a mon due to a crit or a miss, whatever the circumstance may be. You have a mon that is sometimes used as a revenge killer, say scarf Hydreigon. You haven't revealed your coverage move yet, or your item. If you instantly click Hydreigon its a lot more intimidating than mulling over a decision to bring out a mon that doesn't immediately threaten to punish.
The speed in which you make decisions can inform your opponent of your intentions, but you can also use that to mislead. Not saying you shouldn't use your time to your advantage, because I absolutely agree.
I agree on principle, but this is assuming the player making such a move knows what they have to do already, whereas moving without knowing why you're doing it is what the timer is supposed to alleviate
This is a really helpful resource, thx bro. Would definitely love to see more videos of this type, addressing the approach to better decision making
Great video! I think this’ll help newer players realize how much information they have at their disposal without having to assume almost anything. Speaking of assuming, though, I’d like to point out something that could also be helpful for you in a battle (especially in a team tournament). So, turn 2 of the bro fist vs z0mog game: heatran clicks stealth rock as jirachi u-turns out and lando comes in. As you mentioned, we now know that z0mog’s jirachi is slow and bulky; however, the u-turn revealed a lot about the heatran set to z0mog. After calculating the damage, he knew it was offensive, but not only that; since no leftovers were shown you pretty much confirmed that the heatran is Z move (they don’t really run any other item apart from lefties and Z stones). Moreover, you know the reuniclus won’t be Z move and neither will greninja (though it might’ve revealed to be scarf already, idr who switched out first). But, and this is where the assumption comes in, during that wcop the players from US Northeast (bro fist’s team) liked to run modest stealth rock heatran with lava plume, earth power and z flash cannon. Since he’d been preparing for his match, z0mog most likely knew this, and thus could be wary of it clicking z on the fini, for example. It didn’t save him this time because bro fist was far ahead, but it could’ve.
Great video BKC, i started playing older gen OU because of your videos and your advices, practice and information are fundamental in pokemon, and yeah many people in ladder just hurry too much and don't consider the timer
It's 2:30 (150s) on ladder.
Hey BKC! Have you ever considered taking the audio of your vids and uploading them as podcast material on Spotify w/e? Idk how it's for other viewers, but I more often than not listen to your videos and do something else on the side.
Just a little thought I had during this.
Nonetheless, keep up the great work!
Which fossil will you pick? I'm asking for the CZcams algorithm!
Lol
the mo key fossil
Yo BKC. I just wanted to say that this has been very helpful to me. I am also the kind of player that just keeps mashing buttons. I literally used the timer to eat or do something else in between battles. I will also keep this mind and play at a better pace. Even I can tell myself that I was tilting and rushing through some games for example, when I don't scout grassium Tran or stuff.
Also I want to say that I have really been enjoying your content as of late. I have not played any gens other than 7 and 8 but still you present the earlier gens such a way that it is still very enjoyable regardless. For instance, I really enjoyed that DPP ubers vid where you go over why Arceus was banned and then the viabilities of all mons in Ubers. I had been watching FSG for quite some time now so I should have known the quality would be maintained if not better not this channel too.
Re: 4:12
I strongly disagree with your argument that clicking quickly gives no reward. Clicking quickly gives a substantial advantage, as long as the move being clicked is a good move.
1. The most straight forward advantage that clicking quickly gives is not allowing your opponent to cancel their move. This has huge upside if your opponent ever makes a hasty mistake.
2. The next advantage is something I’ll call “establishing the 50-50.” When a player makes instant moves they are communicating to their opponent that “this was not a 50-50 to me, it was an obvious choice”. When both players are taking their time on a turn, it establishes a 50-50 scenario, because both players know that each other are considering between the (typically) 2 options. When this occurs, the odds you make the correct play will be closer to truly “50%-%50” than if you click instantly. The brunt of the prediction mind games is thus on the slow player.
3. The next advantage for players that click quickly is that a slow player will have to play quicker than they usually do to keep up with the fast player. This happens naturally, but if the slow player continues to play at his typical pace, he will end up in time trouble in the end game. When the slower player starts playing quicker than normal, he is more prone to mistakes.
I agree, but like you said, this is only if the move is good, which assumes that you are experienced enough to understand what these good moves are intuitively. less experienced players tend to burn through games without thinking about their moves and tend to let games get away fr them as a result.
How to be the best: just be BKC ;)
Angry CZcamsr rages at instant gratification seeking adolescents frequenting children’s game errr I mean great video kev, couldn’t agree more with your insight
Godzilla had a stroke trying to read this and fucking died.
@@gregoryford2532 imagine getting angry at it 6 months later lol
They say you don't become a man untill you get 6-0 d by choice band bulldoze ferrothorn
gonna win the next SPL now
my tag will be
BKC's son
Can you discuss about stall I always wanted to learn about stall
Hook line and sink with a title like that 👀
damn, dislike. i was looking for advice on how to stay mediocre.
BKC upload pog
Bkc, would you be up to comment your smogon tour 30 run and games once the tour is over?
Five spoons to make you a better battler
Hey BKC, just curious, when's that Passive Damage vid coming out? I know it's gonna be like 5+ hours lol, but passive damage is an extremely important facet if battling, except for Gen 1, and is something that a lot of newer players take for granted.
*SPOONS ?!*
love this vid
Will you ever cover some of the odd ball mons in BW OU? (A.K.A, Infernape, Conk, Donphan, Espeon, Gyarados, etc) Kinda want to see what the BW OU community thinks of these “mediocre” mons
Conk is not mediocre
Conk and gya are top threats
@@vincent-ataramaniko Gyara is only B tier in the vr and Conk isn’t even ranked. My guess is that Gyara is difficult to splash outside of rain, and can’t really sweep in a meta where Washtom, Latios, and Ferrothorn are as good as ever. As for Conk, it faces heavy fighting type competition with Terrakion and Breloom, the former being fast, packing SD, having SpD enchanced by sand, and the latter being a Knock Off/Status absorber with nice defensive utility, while packing great dmg output. Conk has higher dmg output but is slow asf. Considering how splashable Breloom is, is it really worth giving up role compression for Conk? BW is in a state where defensive utility is highly prioritized, which is why mons like Infernape and Lucario fell off the meta while others didn’t.
Just to give examples
Latios: Immune to spikes, can potentially run Roost/Recover for longevity, ground immunity, can switch into Keldeo, Washtom, Breloom, and Tentacruel while being an absolute nuke.
Keldeo: Resist Stealth Rocks, checks Ttar, Drill, Tran. Can run a Toxic + Protect set to wear down all of it’s counters except for Tentacruel, Amoonguss.
Garchomp: Sets up rocks, immune to sand, can lure stuff like Skarm with Fire Blast, and can break Zam’s sash with Dual Chop.
Thundy-T: Absorbs Volt Switch, immune to spikes, forces out non Rock Slide Drill and checks Breloom.
Reuniclus: Immune to Sand and hazards which are a major part of the BW OU metagame, can 1v1 non Shadow Ball/Signal Beam Zam, is a strong wincon, and can keep itself alive with Recover.
Alakazam: A fantastic rkiller, immune to spikes and sand, and hits like a truck.
Hydreigon: Decent bulk, immune to spikes, amazing coverage, doesn’t care about Pursuit Tar, and can keep itself alive longer with Roost while sporting the amazing Dark/Dragon typing giving it some nice key resists like Water, electric, and an immunity to Psychic and Ground.
@@amphibiansriseup596 Conkeldurr is still used by a good amount of people, it's slower but far more bulky than Breloom, and a guts boosted mach punch is pretty good for the speed problem. I agree with you with the fact that BW is now kinda "static".
25:31
Imagine playing against the best player of all time an ragequitting while insulting him of having shit sets.
Why timer? When you could not and still take time? The only times I have to use the timer in my limited experience was when the other player rage quits and leaves the game running wanting me to leave so they get the win.
timer is automatic in tournament games so it's good to be able to play with it
Use mew and melmetal in let’s go. There. Physical mons are now no longer an issue period… and you still trade two specials at worst lol.
I been playing showdown for 3 months and i am still bad
This is short form content for BKC fans
27 minutes only?
Bruh who even are you?
BKC can you also do some tutorial on how not to tilt? I really need it since whenever I see Clefable I just wanna kill it so bad
Yo
1 use a team build by a good teambuilder
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