This Is Bad News For Bedard
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What is the craziest sophomore sump you have seen?
Crosby was the complete opposite of a sophomore slump lol. Went from 102 points to 120. I'm not saying Bedard is gonna be the next Crosby already, but I think he'll do just fine his second year
Mcdavid got injured his first year too and came back and put up even better numbers so this will really be telling for whether Bedard is a true generational talent
I can’t wait for Puljujarvi to have a breakout 100 point season with your Pittsburgh Penguins 😎
next year
He is the missing piece
He looked good on that Nordic line last night so he could very well find his game this season.
Good look with that buddy😂
Dude. He sucks.
Who in the world was comparing Beniers to MacKinnon? 😂😂
Connor McDard 😂
Kyle Connor McDavid Pastrnak.
“Connor McDard” sounds like a player who was created in a lab to specifically dominate the NHL
Thanks for sharing that story Rob! I agree everyone should get some help❤️
The thing you didn't mention is that a player coming from the CHL could be less likely to get the sophomore slump as they play 68 game season, still less then the NHL but more and if you go the distance then it's 68 season + 16 to 28 Playoff games + up to 4 to 5 memorial cup games so at a full season a CHL player can play 88 to 101 games in the season. I don't know the playoff ways of NCAA, KHL, or Swiss league's work so can't give an exact number but I feel it is still less then 82 games if they win their respected championships.
That's a good point. An adjustment to 82 games would be much harder for college players.
in Ncaa they play around 50 games including regular season , conference championship and knockout stage. In NLA(swiss league) regular season has 52 games. For example Ev Zug played 52 games reg. season + 11 playoff games + 12 Champions league games, so 75 in total + spengler cup(if they played). In KHL it's probably the same as NLA minus the champions league.
Matty has also been pushed around a ton, and been in concussion protocol/injured a couple times. I wonder how much that has affected his playing style. Dunner was really the first one to stand up for him this year, after being boarded against Columbus.
As someone who had a brostrom from going feet first into the boards, dislocated shoulder from tripping during a run, and having S1 to L5 fusion along with baker cyst's in both knees from jumping out of airplanes (among the numerous other issues I have with my back). I don't agree with PTSD being the choice acronym, however, I struggled when I served as well, especially after my back surgery because I was upset with not being able to conduct the same training as peers and subordinates (this part bothered me the most as how can I instruct someone to do something, when I am not physically capable of doing it myself).
Glad you recognized the issue, and sought to take care of the mental aspects injuries have... It's a perspective I wish I had before I retired, which probably would have helped me, as well as maintain a better social life as opposed to cutting myself off due to feeling some sort of guilt when hanging out with coworkers and friends.
Thanks for the insight on your struggles, and opening my eyes to why I might have had mine as well.
I don't think we have to worry about Bedard. You'd really have to be avoiding hockey news to not know what he's capable of out there, and he's proven that already scoring almost at a ppg pace on a terrible+injured team. Plus with him being one of the most determined and disciplined players you'll find, I'm sure his trajectory will just keep going up
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Who gives a f*** . He promotes gambling most of the time
I have done 1 sports betting ad in the last 2 years. I only accepted the ad because I was allowed to control the messaging on safe practices
Sorry to hear about your story. I can say that I myself sufferd with Knee Dislocations for years the same as you being like 5 times a day and would have to put it back in place in till 7 years later where I tore my Meniscus and had to go for surgery. At least I know I wasnt alone.
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Great video! - As a (biased) Kraken fan I think Matty will be fine. His point production is way down but I think it’s a product of a few things that are pretty easily explainable vs him just not being as good as we thought.
1. He scored(s) almost all of his goals shooting to the same spot (above the pads & below the blocker/glove) - I think goalies/scouts have caught on
2. He clearly spent this offseason focusing on faceoffs specifically but I also think board play and defense instead of offense/shooting - he has made a huge leap in FO% and board play this year. Makes me think when he focuses on improving his shot the Gs will come
3. Teams are way more physical with him this year vs last year and he is adjusting to it
I truly think the sophomore slump is a real thing especially for Calder winners and I’m glad your stats back that up. The MacKinnon graph gives me hope lol
If McDavid and Bedard are ever on a line, it should be called the "Connor McDard" line lmao
Keep the great work up Rob you’re video just keep getting better since you’ve started!
Great sponsor big dog! Out of curiousity how long did it take to heal your shoulder?
I kept tweaking it in the rehab process, so it took over a year. Not until I was shown a couple stretches from a physiotherapist did the tweaking stop. So if you’re suffering from something similar, stretch every single day when you get up aha
Your hockey talk is already why I come here- but your sponsor talk was awesome. We all need to talk about our injuries and trauma. Thank you so much that you brought up your personal struggle. thanks for sharing!!!
Holy almost a 1/4 of this video is an ad 😂
The goldeneye pause music is going hard asf in the background 😂
Thanks for sharing that Rob.
It’s not surprising that we are only told that the body needs physio, and not enough attention is paid to healing some learned or otherwise past scars and behaviour patterns which need a little adjusting. Just like our spine or knees etc. Call it some dusting off of brain cobwebs. Brain massage.
It works talking to a pro. Just like going to physio!
as a seattle fan, beniers has really had a rough ride tho, he gets pushed around a lot so i think some of it is related to that as well. matty is still a great player and im so glad we have him, hes part of this team's heart and i hope hes not going anywhere anytime soon, cuz he was the first player that got me being a seattle fan fully
i honnestly think he might get less points, but more goals, seeing as he's a playmer but also a sniper, i feel like chicago might focus on the later aspect of his game
I think the sophomore slump is usually because players start playing you harder when they know your dangerous now
The joys of getting older... I played hockey growing up for years and only had one injury (badly bruised hip) that actually caused me to miss some games... and that includes a broken nose at one point, but since everyone wore face masks, so I was ok to play in a week. However, now that I am older (in my 40s), every time I try to get back playing in the local beer league, I keep getting hurt a few games into a season on random stuff and had to stop playing for a bit. So... I feel your pain and frustration when you can't seem to catch a break (no pun intended) with injuries.
You got me with that ad, my knee dislocates in any sport I try. Did the surgery help you? Any type?
One is statistical factor your not consider is regressions to mean. You are selecting the date set based on performance in there first year. This could be due to there abilities but also it could be due to them have some lucky bounces or preform above there ablity. If they are out preforming the first year this would in increase there chances of being in the top 5 draft picks and one could expect lower preforms in the second year when they return to preform at there mean ablity.
I think your other factors as impact athletes second year in the league, this just another factor.
Even if Bedard does get a sophomore slump (which is unlikely) he still has that one skill guaranteed to get him a good amount of goals. Let’s say 25-30 goals even if his assist stats plummet. And that one trump card skill is his “shot”. But yeah the fact that Bedard is still leading all rookies in points this year despite being gone for several weeks is just outrageous 😂. Blud is in a league of his own 😅
Let's just hope he doesn't get should/wrist injuries
I luv your vids bc I learn about hockey enough to bs my way through a few beers with the boys.
Loved the story. Looking great Rob 💪
I think the term Sophomore Slump can be applied to rookies in all major sports (obviously this can vary player to player) they are young and depending on their position on the team (the added pressure of being a First round draft pick as opposed to a 5th - 6th round pick who most people think may not stay on a team) its inevitable they would have a slump and some even expect it (unless otherwise).
Teams have had a full season to scout their habits and get some experience in game vs the rookie. Chances are they'll have more responsibility as a sophomore so the competition is better as well. This is the reason for sophomore slump. It is up to the sophomore and the coaching staff to make necessary adjustments and develop the player at the right pace.
Goalies and defenders usually take more time and teams tend to be more patient with exposure to top pairing minutes and workload between the pipes for fear of them loosing confidence because they're not ready.
0:46 so exactly like mac?
Just for the narrative, I’m hoping to see the Blackhawks get Gavin McKenna
Bros low key buff
Good video rob! Can you do a video on the oilers win streak. That could be intresting. But only 0.9k till 100k🔥🔥
RTH always bringing the fire hockey content not completely built on drama or hearsay
Sophomore slump? Bure: hold my 🍺
I do feel that almost all NHL players regressed this year and we haven't had any rookies that kept their hype up since Mathews. Bedard we will wait and see though.
Does everyone remember when “analysts” were comparing Malkin to Mario? Bedard will be in the same tier as Stamkos and Tavares. I don’t see the next big thing in Bedard, but I see a great career.
it is Sasha Barkov or Aleksander Barkov, not Alex Barkov. Sincerly, a Panthers fan
You’re the best rob great vid 🙌
I was not ready for that face reveal. Absolutely thrown lmao
Have you never seen his face before
wasn't that icing?
It was an intentional play by Pettersson. Because Boeser got there first it was waived off
how come the most obvioust pun of jesse poorhockey didn't materialize?
Rob you're such a beauty. Keep up the great work!
Kind of like Kuzmenko, despite the age difference.
teemu selanne. i mean he did nothing but regress his whole career. but seriously imagine he just kept getting more points?
I respect the story, was set to play college hockey until I tore my knee apart twice, I’m better now but there’s always the mental block of being afraid of making certain moves on the ice
Agreed. It took me a while to get back on the ice. Thinking about going on a trampoline is nightmare fuel haha
Almost half this video is an ad. At least i could skip over it :)
Exactly. Also nearly the entire segment was my story which relates to the topic of the video
Chicago should go for Tanner Howe I watched bedards seasons with the Regina Pats and those 2 play really good together mix that with some high end veterans and o can definitely see Chicago being a theeat
im sorry but who tf is drawing comparisons between beniers and mackinnon kind of different players imo
Conner McBedard is just Bedarded😂
The Bison King 😂
Bros dna force must have ran out.
Omg lil hockey Rob is so cute 🥰 thank you for sharing your story
McKinnon took a few years to get into the swing of things too tho eh? Like four years.
Coaching. That's why.
Elias is really good this year
I would worry more as he may come back gun shy, afraid to cut into the center. He's also coming back to a team with little support and a coach who has them playing a horrible system. The book so far on Bedard, he has a glass jaw. I still stand on my opinion that he should have been sent to AHL, states aside he does not have NHL speed and so many times he looks lost out there. Not knowing where to be and often skating to the puck holder and the weak backhand passes in the offense zone. I say this as a Blackhawk fan, a year down to develop has the most upside other than ticket sales. As we all know the hawks will have him for 3yrs he will develop to NHL levels and just as he's really ready to break out they'll trade him for younger players and prospects as this has been the cycle for the last ten years.
In ,many respects,I tend to agree,with you !I think Luke Richardson,is doing the best he can,with th lack of talent he has!As far as Bedard,I agree,that at time he looks over welmend ! One columnist from the hockey news said Bedard just before he got injured looked worn out,These were his statements!
IS that an AMHA jersey? AIRDRIE????
Perhaps
Guys, its because i picked him up this year in my fantasy draft. My fault!
bedard is different metal foo.
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nah bedard is going to be just fine
Bedard is not going to burn out lol. His life outside of hockey is roller hockey, the kid is an extremist. This is why the best the players in the world have no personality. Talking about anything outside of hockey is blasphemy to them. Bedard is one of those guys. Unless he suffers injury after injury he's going to figure the NHL out, not the other way around. Getting his chin checked was a good experience for him. Now he knows he has to figure out another way and I guarantee that's all he's been thinking about. I'm not even a big Bedard fan but I know a psychopath extremist when I see one.
He's already dying to get back out there. The team has been having a hard time keeping him off the ice all season. He will be fine
I think people are sleeping on the fact that Connor Bedard isn’t the best of his generation for as long as Gretzky got to be. He’s just the best that’s been noticed so far. This is exactly why you can’t say “Gretzky would dominate today’s game”. There’s just no real world where that’s true, and that idea comes from people not understanding how to read and interpret stats without adding their own implications and biases into it. Gretzky would fucking suck in today’s game. The only evidence you need for that is that players in general are just thousands of times better than they were in gretskys day, and you can’t just use averages and make assumptions those averages would translate to modern hockey. They don’t. Gretzky knows it, and so does anyone who’s really good at something. You know you’re not the best, you’re not even close. You’re just the best that got noticed at the right time. There’s bound to be thousands or even millions of people who will have similar athletic abilities had they been trained the way Gretzky was and given the same opportunities. It’s not that hard to be really good at something when you have the tools and resources to spend a lot of time learning/practicing that thing. So yes, there are better players than Connor out there. In a few years we will start seeing them in the drafts. Hell we already are. Connor isn’t going to be the absolute best the way Gretzky was, because the tools hockey players have access to now allows them to close those massive gaps in skill or compensate for them at the least. That’s only going to accelerate, and that’s also why no matter how much any of us won’t like it, fighting and massive hits aren’t going to be part of the game in 50 years because kids are just gunna be too fast to stop that way. It will require the game to change how it’s played. That’s really exciting to me. I don’t care about the Bedards and gretskys we already have. I wanna see a whole fucking league of bedards and gretskys
That's a lot of word salad to say you don't know wtf you're talking about 😂
@@jaceking5938lol or maybe you’re just too lazy to understand basic mathematics? I mean, I’m happy to argue this with you. But you have to attempt to engage. Let me make it simple. You cannot just take gretskys averages and compare them to modern day. That literally tells you nothing except what you want it to. You have to take his averages, and weigh them against how player averages have shifted too. You can’t just assume that there is that much of a gap in skill now because there was then. That’s just stupid. You would have to account for factors that existed or were removed from the game since then, economic factors, how many people played at competitive levels as children then vs now, etc. you can’t just assume dominance now because there was then. You have to prove what the dominance was, and that players have somehow not gotten any faster or more efficient with how they train and learn to recognize other players threats over time which you can’t without a fuck load of assumptions on your part
@@jaceking5938 besides that, you can look at skill gaps today and just ignore the entire mathematics involved. It’s not hard. Connor Bedard isn’t miles above any other player nor is Connor McDavid. They are undoubtedly the best at what they do, but when you break down their skills and compare them, they’re only a small percentage point in certain areas, better than guys like Mackinnon. Same with Crosby and ovi. Yeah they’re a step ahead, but that step ahead isn’t Gretzky level because it’s not possible for there to even be that much of a gap any more because the game has been studied and perfected so much more than it was then. You can’t just stick a guy out to take a penalty for easy 4 man rushes up the ice like you could in gretskys day, and goalies aren’t fucking god awful like they were then either. Everyone has gotten way better. Proportionally you’ll see more skill growth the lower down you go in skill tier. In the time it takes a white belt to get their black belt, it took the black belt just as much time to add a single stripe onto that black belt. Same is true for any skill. What that means is that in the time since Gretzky played, the game doubled in speed, and talent among the entire player base. You can’t win cups with one mcdavid or one Austin Matthews anymore. You need an entire team effort because the game has gotten way more skill oriented than it ever has been
@@Southboundpachyderm Gretzky had the greatest hockey IQ and proprioception of any hockey player ever, two skills that are independent of era
@@jaceking5938 prove it
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Bedard in vancouver f chicago!!!!
This dude sounds kust like that mma guy
BISON KINGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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I've heard good things from friends and family. The way I look at it is BetterHelp is a much more affordable way to get therapy, but there are some trade offs
@@RobTalksHockey I agree yeah, better than nothing I just remember how much controversy there was with it
I know you can do better than this post. The title is misleading “This might be bad news for Connor Bedard” . Then you go on an overly long ramble with the eventual conclusion that he may have a sophomore slump while highlighting a number of players who have excelled their second year. You omit a Hall Of Fame list of players who had no slump. The likely conclusion should be that Bedard will continue to excel like almost all players of his calibre. That might be good news for Connor Bedard. It sure will be for Hawks fans.
I am so sick of Bedard. awww he got hurwrt already?
overrated
Been injured for a month and he’s still leading rookie scoring as the youngest in the class. Elaborate on how he’s overrated ?
Sry my bad
CZcams has changed to an 8 minute rule for 1. And my ad was long because I told a personal story which relates to the topic. You can always skip the ad my friend
My bad
Still like your vid and content
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Thank u
Idk what I was thinking?
Sry about Ur knee cap
I think I just zoned out and got confused and just watched it without having any idea what it was about
Skinner was robbed last year
I agree
Why did they not give the calder trophy to Stuart Skinner? Call me biased but they again handed it to another center despite Skinner clearly having a bigger impact on his team than Beniers did
They don’t really give goalies the Calder
You're biased. :) Your statement is VERY far from clear. You've got generational talent on the Oilers, and yet they didn't fare any better than a second year expansion team did in the playoffs. Virtually nobody thought the Kraken would be playoff contenders in the 22-23 season, and yet they made it to the second round. Most everybody expected the Oilers to do AT LEAST as well as they did, with direct evidence from the previous season that they were capable of it.
25 percent of your video is a product placement
25% of the video was a personal story related to the topic of the video that just so happened to work with my sponsor. Skip the ad man it’s not that serious
Bedard should be in Vancouver. He's too young to be so far away from his Mamma !!!
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@@user-we2yt5on9b ... I'm a Canuck Fan ... I want him closer to home. LOL
I really don't want to bring a form of politics into this, but you honestly waited 1.5yrs for an MRI? Good lord, I tore my ACL/LCL and fractured a bone in my knee while playing, they gave me one the day after it happened. Then had my surgery right after the swelling went down. NA healthcare isn't perfect, but damn, I'm sorry you had to go through that.
Edit: Oh, and please stop showing the Wild get dunked on every video :)
At first I went through physical therapy because there was a small chance that my ACL could recover. Eventually the ACL failed, and I got a full tear. I also opted to wait for my surgery because I got booked in at the office that does Olympic surgeries. But yeah, you typically have to pay around $2000 to get in the next day for an MRI.
@@RobTalksHockey That makes sense. Mine were both completely gone lol. My surgery was at TRIA, where the Wild go. I understand the pain that comes with an injury like that, it was horrifying. I'm happy to hear you're doing better both mentally and physically.
Thanks brother, I hope a life of healthy knees for you as well haha!
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It wasn't 4 minutes. But I've been wanting to tell my story for a long time. When BetterHelp reached out, I thought it was the perfect time
insane on an 11 minute video hahahahah
it was exactly 3 minutes and 8 seconds.
Ya'll ad haters need to let it go. It's the world we live in, and helps content creators like Rob make a living. Take a deep breath, and scroll past it like a human with an actual fully developed frontal lobe.
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My sweet prince is fine! JUST FINE
So basically he's a bust
Year and a half you were waiting for an MRI and surgery? Free healthcare really is GREAT isnt it. In the states youd have the MRI the week of and the surgery the next month. Yeah you have to pay health insurance but for $200 dollars a month for health insurance its worth getting helped right away. Waiting over a year lmao
Hey you played in airdrie!? I grew up in Cremona. Alberta bros 🤌🏻🤌🏻
Great video Rob. It looks like Chicago is going to be fecal matter again this year, which has a lot to do with Connor McDards injury. Hopefully they find a player in the 2024 draft that can be his shotgun rider. I mean, F the Black Hawks as a team, I have nothing good to say about them, but I hope McDard gets someone to play off of.
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