Chucky Episode 14 : Chucky Gets the BOSS
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Well, guys and gals, you asked for it and we aim to please. As such, here is the Coyote Intake Manifold Shootout part 2 with the Boss, Cobra Jet, and Holly Sniper manifolds. Watch along to see who comes out on top!
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What did chucky do to you? You slapped him so hard at the start
@@cameronsund5477 🤷♂️ 🤣 🙄
Please add the ported 18 manifold I’m seriously curious
1.Strange single adjustable shocks and struts(because they work and there cheap) 2.ford racing aluminium driveshaft(because it’s cheap weight reduction)
3. two relay trans brake(just to see if a car of that power and stall would benefit from it)
200 shot? That would wake it up.
:)
Ported CJ VS Ported 2018 VS Ported Boss intake
My guess is CJ is going to make the most power. But, the Boss will see the most gain from being ported.
I would love to see this too!
Battle of the ported manifolds
I have a Cj and would love to see what it would do ported. I've been considering it.
@@trspratlen Not much, maybe 10whp if ur lucky. The CJ is pretty good from Ford.
@@rileyneufeld7001 the guy that told me he sports them said the same thing 10 to 15 at most. Don't know if it's worth it really.
so to confirm, 2018 GT manifold is KING.
Dollar for dollar, especially if it's a street car, yes, just get the 18 manifold. Ported if you have extra money. It doesn't require any special throttle body, cai, and clears hoods like the previous mustang intakes. In order for some of the other manifolds to really be worth it, you'd need to be an all out race car spending all day above 4500rpm, with lots of cams compression and/or boost. Most of these intake trade a lot of bottom and midrange for moderate gains up top and cost a lot doing it.
Cobra Jet is King! On top of that, it looks the best.
It may be king but the Boss 302 looks best
@@soundretarded I disagree. The cj looks like a boss with a larger inlet
And twin or oval tbody it looks like a boss on steroids.
PART 3-Ported Boss, Ported 18, Ported CJ
Years later and this video is as helpful as can be. Thank you for this
Yes part 3 with ported 18 gt manifold!
Need to do a true comparison between CNC ported CJ versus CNC ported 18’ manifold. Actually rev the CJ this time unlike the 1st manifold shootout where you shut it down early. Just food for thought... I do enjoy all your videos. Keep up the great work.
The cj will easily top the 18 if both are ported and both are revved out to where they should be that is where the cj shines up past 7 or so the cj will walk away from it. Everyone acts like the 18 is basically the cj for less money I greatly disagree. Also with cj you need a big mono blade to really make the most of what it can do. Castrating it with a stock gt500 tbody or even the twin 65 one isn't letting it do what its capable of. That is what makes cj so much better than the boss is the wider inlet and oval tbody opening so you wanna take advantage of that...ported cj with a monoblade and pmas smokes all imo all motor.
They revved it out to 7,700rpm it says there on the sheet. I have an 18 manifold but never ran a cj or drove one to compare the 2. I'm really curious 🤔
Thanks for the hard work providing the quality content. You are in the lead of providing information for consumers to make informed decisions for purchases. I will remember VMP. I want to see a ported
CJ Dyno sheet.
Definitely would love to see what ported versions do
Ported cobra jet also
Great Comparison, do a ported 18 mani please
Would love to see the ported 18 vs cnc and cobra jet!!
Ported boss vs ported 18 vs ported cobra jet!
A Boss needs to be ported. Anyone that's looked inside the runners at the injector area knows it's significantly smaller than the others in that area. I ported mine myself and managed to run 10.90's@124 at 3540lbs in my 14' GT on 93 at SGMP in good weather.
18 f150 intake, 18 gt and ported gt
Thanks for always providing great content....part 3 please!!
Got my boss 302 intake new for 315 for the price very pleased with it .....Thanks Vmp for testing it
Woah we have the same name
@@joeykimball5705 Small world for sure
waiting impatiently for the ported 18 manifold results.
cry more
Would love to see how it stacks compared to the ported boss, Can’t go wrong either way though
@@justinanderson8394 I’m installing my ported boss tomorrow morning. Hoping to notice a little difference!!
I know VMP isn't in the centri or turbo business, but testing those intakes with boost going through them would be interesting for me!
Agreed! But that means they would have to use a car without a vmp blower. And I don’t think they would do that. But for us centri guys would be awesome info. Either way love the videos and all the hard work coming out of VMP.
@Matt Kesatie I'll check it out ASAP!
A friend of mine has a Cj with a procharger, he says it's just plain scary. I'm considering a procharger to go with my Cj.
@@trspratlen I mean it basically mirrors whatever it does na. If it's flowing more air and making more power na it's gonna make more power with boost too. It's just magnified. Just like cams they help na but even more with boost.
Definitely do a part 3 with the '18, ported '18, and CJ! I have a ported '18 and would love to see the difference between the 3! Great content as always!
How about all ported intake shootout
I think the Boss 302 IM for NA applications isn’t really worth it but pair it with a centrifugal Supercharger and it makes insane top end power.
Cobra Jet with a Procharger is the real dream though.
How could you say that? There are alot of s197 coyotes ported and unported boss
I have yet to see anyone test the Edelbrock Victor intake manifold. Expensive and probably not worth it but would still like to see the test.
All ported ford manifold vs non ported manifold shootout
Ford intakes and all ported specifically the Boss with with ported TB or an Accufab 84.5mm . There was a test done with a ported boss & Accufab TB compared to CJ with 65mm and graphs were identical when over layed . 1320 Junkie said the Boss was the worst factory casting that he ports ? For the money if a ported boss can make those gains it would be worth to do an all ported test on the same engine . Gen2 would probably be best just for better flowing heads to maximize manifolds .
You should do intake swaps on a 15-17 F150 with overlapping dyno graphs.
18 ported mani! Thanks for the content!
I really appreciate you making the Chucky series. I’m at 404 with a ported Boss on a 14 and, after hearing all the online 420-430 tune/axle back only claims, I’ve been trying to figure out what’s wrong with mine. After seeing what a real tuner/builder is doing and getting I know they are full of it. Can’t wait to see the next vid so I can see what I need to do next. Too bad I’m on the West Coast because I’d love to visit the shop. Keep producing quality vids.
Thx, man!
Too bad you can't test the Boss 302 manifold using the Trackey. From what I've seen, the HP and torque numbers come on at a much lower rpm.
Stock intake is the best all around for the gen 1 non boss model
Great comparison, thanks for going through all the trouble.
Glad it was helpful!
alex showed us what 18 intake can do against cobra jet
Ported boss vs ported 18. I'm currently running non ported boss but am considering switching over to 18. If ported boss flows better and has better gains I'll just have mine ported and save some moolah. Thanks vmp
why hasnt anyone compared the edelbrock victor 2
I understand the hot air intakes are a sales gimmick (thus OEM engineers always go with airbox after billions spent over the years in research) but dont get why most dynos are done with hood up....unless you plan to drive with hood up.
Dont overthink it they are simply comparing manifolds
Except on the GT350 which has a CAI from the factory and Ford offers it as a power pack for the GT. The Bullitt runs it as well.
And the hellcats
What’s better for daily driving and like street racing here and there ? The Boss 302 or the 18 intake manifold
We find that the '18 manifold provides a great all around mix of performance and driving characteristics.
@@VMPPerformanceTV thank you for the advice
No problem!
I imagine most of the gains from the CJ intake vs. the Boss intake are from the throttle body. The CJ intake and TB are $1625.00; Boss intake is $525. Not worth 18 HP IMO.
For people who have their hearts set on an N/A build with substantial weight reduction, CJ is absolutely the king. I know of a 13/14 Mustang on a CJ setup that’s gutted that has outrun Roush 18+ 10R80 cars from a roll and it wasn’t even close. Might not have the punch of a monster PD blower setup or turbo setup but it’s reliable, doesn’t have some of the headaches your average F/I car might have, plus in the long run it’s cheaper. 🤷♂️ just won’t make near the peak power.
My Cj just revs so much higher. From 4k to 8k the power is insane. Its flat and linear, just keeps pulling. MT82 with stage 3 clutch and lightweight flywheel just rips thru the gears. O hardly ever lose a race. And I race anyone who pulls up next to me.
Throttle body shootout?
Note the sniper made the same power but between 6500-7200 it held nearly the same power vs the boss started falling around 67-6800. It also had a much smoother line. But the question is is it worth the extra few hundred bucks. Uh probably not
If I had a coyote I would just throw a ported cj on it from the jump and be done with it. It is more expensive but it isn't that bad considering how much better the car is going to run all out wot. People pay more for stuff that does less for performance like for example an expensive catback or set of headers hell even nice axlebacks go for 1000+ so to me a ported cj isn't that bad. What makes it real costly is if you start out with a stock intake and do cold air on that or even worse tbody too then you switch to the cj you gotta buy it all again. Best thing to do is if you want real performance go ahead and do a ported cj from jump street. It'll be under 2 grand plus tuning and your car is gonna be night and day as far as na goes. If you have cams and long tubes it's really gonna move out. People focus too much on peak numbers but that is one nasty setup on e85 it'd prob see 500 wheel even with gen 1 heads unported if you're manual and it's gonna be a fast 500 wheel. People focus on gains and numbers but don't realize just how badly that 500 wheel setup is gonna gap a 420 whp bolt on setup with a run of the mill intake on it. The overall power curve and how far it holds the power drastically changes and in a race between the two setups you can see this lol. It'd be alot worse than you think given there is only an 80 hp difference.
Some of y’all are saying the 18 manifold is better than the Ford racing, but if you watch episode 10, when he put the stock intake back on, it made 405 rwhp and 388 tq which mean it’ll put down more power than the cobra jet lol The cobra jet is King
Whats the advantage of the CNC ported intake? Is it slightly textured to create a minor turbulence to help with the mix? I read where a polished port is not necessarily the best. ??? Comments?
The MMR billet manifold is pretty awesome as well.
An all ported manifold shootout stock, 18 , 18 truck, boss, CJ 💯🚀
How does Chucky an automatic have a Cobra Jet Intake Manifold on? Isn't it manuals only? I mean I have read that the JLT CJ CAI brings a grommet and fitting and all you need to do is drill a 1/2" in the tube install the grommet and fitting and that is where you connect the Aspirator Tube that Ford says has nowhere to connect. Any info on how Chucky can work with the Cobra Jet will be appreciated. I have searched the internet, but no clear instructions on what to do with the CJ and an auto. Thanks
I've heard that a ported boss is equivalent to a stock CJ🤔
Ported boss is much better than non ported but it won't equal even a non ported cj imo. It might get kinda close peak power wise but a ported cj with monoblade would walk away from it. It costs more but it's worth it in the end. Just go cj from the start that way you don't gotta buy cold air intakes more than once. Lol
The cobra jet used a different throttlebody versus the other two. Could that have made the difference
Edelbrock has a NA intake manifold for the coyote. You guys missed this one! Would be interesting to see what the Edelbrock does and how it compares to the Cobra Jet intake manifold.
waiting on the new new one
Let’s see the CNC ported intake comparison! Get some people to donate their CNC ported manifolds and test them against the 18 intake!!!!
As always, great information and content. When I buy parts now I always check VMP first. Time to do a mail order catalog(in color). I would love to see everything VMP sales. I want a VMP gen3R for my 15 GT!!!!
Would be nice to do a side by side comparison. Between the Boss and CJ to see the underside of intakes.
I never see anybody testing the Eldebrock Victor Jr 5.0 , for the money it cost is it junk ?
The old ones were similar to boss and sniper, I heard they are coming out with a new version.
@@VMPPerformanceTV for the money today the '18 ported is the $ maker for everyday use but for drag strip use or just making power the JET is the shit ! I would had like you to use the 60 or 65 twin in that test just because of what would be more useful on a stock '11-'12 GT , just for a better power curve on an engine that couldn't use the extra air with the larger TB .
I have a 05 mustang gt can a 62mm throttle body fit and how would they do with a supercharger
What about a ported Boss 302 manifold?
Great video!
Cobra jet with vmp 67mm throttle body
I still don’t understand why nobody tests the ported Boss. The Boss mani yields the most gains from any manifold with porting, and it just gets ignored.
A ported CJ is still king. Check out a Facebook group called All Motor Coyotes. Tons of information on this. 1) Ported CJ 2) Ported Boss
demongawl Oh yes ported CJ is king no doubt about that, however I mean when they do comparisons to the ported 18 manifold and such!
Will the cobra jet intake for on a 2015 mustang gt with a automatic transmission
Great video! Excellent comparison! Thanks for the work Justin!
best manifold for boost👀 plzz
I just got the Sniper intake from a buddy can it be used with stock fuel rails and hardware?
Ported boss vs ported CJ vs ported 18’ can we get that?
yes
What about edelbrocks victor 2
Will the boss 302 and the Holley fit on a 2018+ gt?
Lol I’m putting down 406 rwhp with the stock manifold
FBO and 400whp??? Thats low man.
rcmelton0615 441 Whp is not low especially for Colorado altitude
rcmelton0615 this comment was a long time if you can’t see that
Question, can a strut Tower brace be used with the Cobra Jet intake manifold?
Yes
do a all ported intake manifold shootout
0:10 I'm Justin, this is Chucky *SLAP*
Chucky :(
yeah, a comparison between 18stock, ported ones, and cobra jet would be neat.
Do 18+ owners benefit from a gt350 intake at all? The bullitt has one, but my guess would be the larger TB and CAI & tune made the + in power?
TB accounts for maybe 5whp NA. The gt350 is slightly better than the 18 manifold. But not worth the extra cost. I believe the Bullitt has a ported gt350 manifold.
Bullit/GT350 are the same, and that is correct about the TB, its worth a little bit more on those intake manifolds.
@@VMPPerformanceTV So, upgrading the TB and CAI is worth more than changing the 18intake for a GT350 one?
Well its Ford , 😎 I dont think its a stretch to say that Ford threw a whole lot more money at R&D then any of the aftermarket folks....
Im not sure porting it is going to give you that much of a gain if any.
Great Videos , down the road this will be an awesome library .
We need to see these manifolds with boost!
You took the words right out of my mouth. Lets see what the ported intake has to offer , that will be interesting. BTW what dyno are you using, i have only seen your outdoor portable unit .
Yes VMP. Do a ported intake challenge. But what I suggest, is that the hood of the car needs to be shut.
It's on a Dyno. They pretty much always keep the hood. Lowering the hood with probably only lower the numbers a little bit and heat soak the engine more. Then it would take longer to cool down the vehicle in between pulls.
True. I understand that. But its not like we are driving are cars on a dyno all day or with the hood up. With the hood down we would see close to real street numbers
thought those made 412 from factory.
That would be crank horsepower advertised from Ford. After drivetrain loss, they make a bit less at the wheels.
@@VMPPerformanceTV then why dont they just say that?
It's the standard for the OEM automotive industry to publish crank numbers. Wheel numbers are primarily prevalent in the automotive aftermarket because of the volume of dyno testing we do.
Hey just a side question , do i need to re tune after changing axle back exhaust ? or is that just sound. I have outlaws now and would like to tone it down a bit. Also I would like to hear that expensive VMP 2.3 on it. 08 GT 500 .
No you don’t need a tune for mufflers 🤦🏼♂️
Yes please do a comparison.
Ported 18 please! Great job
Could you possibly do a 3v intake manifold shootout?
Ain't no one got time for that.
Port the cobrajet....
How do you get a normal rev limiter like that in a coyote??
Tuner changes it to a limiter vs a fuel cut
Can we see this in a gen 2 or 3 I would imagine a lot more power to be had with better heads and cam profiles
We want to do a Gen3 IM shootout since those heads flow the best.
ported 18 vs cobra jet
Ported boss????
Put a ported 18 manifold apparently makes more than a cj 🙃
2ss _rs ported CJ makes more and holds power beyond 7200 unlike 18 mani, CJ is still king 🤷🏻♂️🤓
Lol im trolling if u remember there intake shootout were apperantly the 18 made more power 💀
Sweet
Do it on a 15 f150 now!
Do you need headers or cat deletes for these CJ or 2018 mani's to be worthwhile? Thanks for the videos -- good stuff. 2014 GT here.
Headers is always better with any manifold
@@kikomokoz9575The question is, is it required to have a benefit. Somebody just did a video saying S197's lost power with a CJ because of the stock exhaust.
In my finding having the boss on my 12 gt 6spd for a few years " without boost " you are shooting yourself in the butt with any of these intakes, I sold it and went to a 18 stock intake and Love it. 482 /408 :-)
Was that on E85 or pump gas? Im trying to see if I should pop some rings in a 2013 motor I have that has low compression on cylinder 8 or sell it and buy a gen2 / gen3 motor? Thanks
Cpmare. Ported
Is it a auto or stick on that car?
Chucky, the '11 Mustang GT is an automatic 6R80 car
@@VMPPerformanceTV nice I was wondering why autos loose torque
Science boy
I think it will get perky- er as the time goes on ,,right ✅ 🤔
Hahahahaha well If this is all the power you can get.it is time to go to dodge hem I got power to spare in the 5.7 and up