2017 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car Test Drive Video Review
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- www.autobytel.com/toyota/mirai... The most abundant element in the universe is hydrogen. So it would only makes sense to consider it as a fuel for our vehicles. Toyota aims to change that with the release of the first mass market fuel cell vehicle for sale: the Mirai. The car is basically a giant EV but instead recharging with electricity, the Mirai uses hydrogen. Power output is 151 horsepower and 247 lb-ft. of torque. The Range is between 250-270 miles.
The Mirai is really a more futuristic and more expensive Prius. If you are looking for a green commuter there are better EV options out there. Until there is more Hydrogen fuel infrastructure, the Toyota Mirai will be a tough sell.
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what's all this negativity? I guess you sounded the same 5 years ago before Tesla and 15/20 years ago when the Prius came out... yes this is not yet for everyone, but times are changing!
he is useless jerk... born negative
Well, the Tesla and other EVs can be charged at home with almost no capital cost, meaning you rarely need to visit any public charging infrastructure unless you drive a lot. Home electrolysis hydrogen filling stations could be a thing, but they are expensive (home BEV charging stations are cheap). And a home filling station would use about three times the energy to drive the same distance as in a BEV. Hydrogen seems to only make sense in larger vehicles like trucks, ships, trains, etc
Siggen Yeah but the problem is charging times, when you drive a tesla you cant go OH CRAP and frantically drift into a gas station and be on your way in 2-5 minutes.
MEELO925 If I really go "oh crap", I can plug in for 5-10 minutes and have enough juice to get anywhere, there are fast chargers everywhere around here (Norway), so long road trips are no big problem, even with the tiny 30 kWh battery of the Leaf. And with bigger batteries like the 100 kWh in Teslas, it really is no problem at all. And the car is usually always charged up and ready to go at home, so there is no need to ever need to use public charging to sustain a daily commute, that will certainly save you some time in the long run
Again, that's a problem you DON'T HAVE since your car charges EVERY NIGHT in your garage. Why would you buy a vehicle that you need to go take time out of your day to make a special trip somewhere and buy expensive fuel? The only time that even starts to become an annoyance is when you're driving more than 500km straight. Even then, it's not a huge issue since:
1. A 15 minute stop at a supercharger can get your Tesla an additional 200km. So 700km range (7hours of driving) with a 15min stop in the middle? How many people is that actually a dealbreaker for?
2. Even in areas that have absolutely NO OFFICIAL EV infrastructure, you can still charge an EV if there is any form of electricity.
3. If companies like Porche are to be believed, their EVs WILL charge in 5 minutes flat.
4. According to green car reports, the #1 issue the very few people who own H2 vehicles have with those vehicles is that they can take HOURS to fill even when you can find a hydrogen station if you're unlucky enough to arrive just after another has filled and depleted the stockpile of hydrogen. The #2 issue is when you pull into the ONLY hydrogen station around and it's BROKEN, which leaves your $50,000 car SOL.
5. You CAN'T make any kind long drive in a hydrogen vehicle since THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE TO REFUEL YOUR CAR AT ALL. You're criticizing EV's for taking too long to do something that cannot even be ATTEMPTED in a hydrogen car. If you're assuming that the infrastructure will be built eventually, think again. A single H2 pump cost over $2M to install. Who is going to build all these stations when BEV's sales are exploding and dedicated high voltage charge points only cost a few hundred dollars to install?
Back in the '90s hydrogen cars made sense. Today, the idea of buying a hydrogen car is the equivalent to buying a betamax after it was clear VHS had won the format war. Sure, the technology does work but you're not going to be able to do much with it and for what you can do, it is EXPENSIVE.
Hydrogen may have a place in the grid energy storage world, or in big commercial vehicles but unless it can figure out how to handle the conversions between hydrogen and electricity more efficiently, it's going to have it's lunch eaten by flow batteries there too.
how long does cell last? how much to replace? Platinum still?
Mirai in japanese is future..
Labeled An Otaku always helps.
Mirai Nikki!
Well then our future is doomed with hydrogen economy.
cool , for sure! Norway's 'hydrogen highway' one to youtube also. setting hydrocarbons on fire (gas , diesel cars) will be illegal MUCH SOONER than we realize I'm sure. (2030 ish - as we approach 1.5deg hotter , IPCC report
Mirai in California means no go. KABOOM in Santa Clara. www.hydrogenfuelnews.com/northern-california-hydrogen-car-drivers-still-out-of-luck-for-fuel/8538219/
Interesting watching this video and seeing how truly archaic the presenters views are.
5:00 "For EVs and electric vehicles..." And there's so much more wrong about this video.
It's beautiful.
when h2 and o2 mix that place that time maximum energy will produce for that control of energy what you use device
Buy this if you have filling stations in your city.
Environment saver. My thump is up for the Mirai
Wait does this car even have a brake booster ??? When he said that you have to push down a lot to stop
Just one question: what is the value proposition of this or any other Hydrogen vehicle?
I am not native and have no idea what proposition means.
They pollute far less than EVs (when built) and the fuel is very cheap (not now,but it will be)
3/4! Wow! How do you know that?
How to mirai change hydrogen for electric?
Petrolheads don't worry, wait for hydrogen combustion engines those are gonna make all the noise you want ^^
Lucky Luke nice
@Nob the Knave over 1000 commercial trucks in the states on the road, only reason not more, is because of not enough stations and infrastructure
The fuel tank is low Bc of the process is highly reactive
hydrogen combustion is actually half as efficient as hydrogen fuel cells, and they release nitrous oxide which is just as bad as co2
@@tyborg314 if a nitrogen engine makes nitrous, couldn't that be re routed to burn in the engine again to make more power? What do you get burning nitrous?
How long and how much is it to fill the
tank ?
5 minutes and same price
Part of the attraction of an E.V. is less mechanical parts that require maintenance.
how much did a full tank of hydrogen cost you
I wish hydrogen fuel cell cars were more readily available throughout the UK. Their are only about 3 hydrogen models available here and most hydrogen fuel filling stations are in the south east of England.
I would like to see some of these car manufacturers offer a service to convert a petrol or diesel engined car to a hydrogen fuel celled car. That might be more cost effective compared to manufacturing an entire new car. This would help drive the demand for hydrogen which would then eventually drive demand for brand new cars to be hydrogen fuel celled cars.
Hydrogen fuel would have to be made more readily available throughout the UK as the demand increases.
I for one would love to own a hydrogen fuel celled car and I would be happy to recommend anybody to have one.
This is the future
It's quite naive to say that just because hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe that it's obvious we should use it as a fuel source. It's only abundant on Earth in the form of water. And you need to split the hydrogen from the water in order to use it in fuel cells. And that's the main problem. There are many problems with hydrogen, but the main problem is that it's terribly inefficient to split hydrogen from water to then use to power vehicles. Normal battery-powered vehicles are much more efficient and viable.
There is actually algae now that produces hydrogen, which means we essentially have an infinite power source. Sunlight and water repeat. It could be amazing one day oh, if only people accept it
@Mr Penguin you can extract all of that, and many of our systems even with nuclear plants have many safety's. Nuclear plants have dozens of backup fail-safes, I don't see why an algae plant couldn't do the same. But it is definitely a great idea to look at
@Mr Penguin yeah. Very true.
What if you run out of fuel
You didn't mention the cost to refuel.
its roughly same as a tank of gas
You guys still haven't done 0-60 for CLA45 AMG yet
Just review the car, noone asked your great opinion on Hydrogen Fuel Cells.
No one ask you to watch this video instead
@Love animals No one asked for your apinion
@@ericmathews2129 neither yours
What kind of review are you looking for without the reviewer's opinion? Is this your first time watching a review?
Mirai convert hydrogen to chsrging battry ?
Better than electric
But muh inefficiency.
I closed the Tab once you said 60k! Done
I mean 2 backseats that can fit 2 mid sized 6 footers ... that's not bad
This is the first of I've heard of this 3 years later. Where the hell would you even refuel these?
Just looked it up, 3 years later there are only fueling stations in California so this is a good car for people who aren't planning on travelling ever. Absolutely no reason to own this car.
How much does it cost to fill the tank at today's rate?
Same as petrol
Is it still powered by combustion a engine or is the hydrogen converted into electricity to power an electric motor?
hydrogen corverted to energy by a cell and it powers an eletric motor
It's electric without batteries,so no lithium Ion,which means that we don't have batteries! No more toxic radiation from them!
this is great technology. what are it's drawbacks?
Dumb people. Makes water which makes more hydrogen which makes more water which makes more hydrogen and so on. Only a bit of electricity required AND it doesn't pollute as much as EVs when being made
@@sharl_leg "Only a bit of electricity" is a giant understatement.
It's roughly 50 kWh to produce 1 kg of hydrogen by electrolyzis of water. And also some kWh to compress it to 700 bar. And a lot of additional kWh to liquify 1 kg of hydrogen for transport.
1 kg of hydrogen will give you a range of ~100 km (60 miles).
for every one saying dead tech, oh they wont make fueking stations, i live on the east coast and i work a town over from a football stadium the supermarket / gas station combo is actually getting a fueling station its in the building phase now should be down in 2 months
The cost of refueling your hydrogen car is much higher than gasoline and many times higher than electricity.
What is the cost of fuel, to drive those two hundred plus miles?
A bit more expensive now,in the future more than a third of the price
I like it
would it explode if there is an accident?
No,the H2 is let through as gas. It just escapes,making it the safest actually as it can't catch fire
whats if its a Mirai prius hydrogen?!
Why doesn’t Toyota sell flex fuel cars in the US
I live like 5 mins away from a fueling station. Getting one of these babies and drive for uber lol
chardmb dude. 60k? Better stick with prius.
If you lease it, you can get free fuel during the lease. Also, since it's $60k it may qualify for uber black
@Mr Penguin how likely is 10 a day for black though?
@Mr Penguin idk, math here seems iffy. paying off a car in a few years through uber sounds like "break even on this purchase by driving people around everyday" with a hidden: "buy a newer, fancier car after a few years then break even on that"
@@StayBassd okay. 3 people for that amount of money. Boom 3 years
Just a mention i have here. A lot of people in the comments saying that it's very difficult to find hydrogen stations, it's expensive as fuel, the car with hydrogen motors are expensive 50.000 dollars the specific car of the review and that it's easier to charge an ev in your house. OK all good here. When it came out the first tesla remember someone of you guys? 2008 so we have the first production of ev before 11 years. In greece let's say for example they have 3 or 5 stations for charging your tesla. In Germany we have some more but still not easy to charge because they are not everywhere chargers and also all the people they don't have garage to charge the ev in their house. How many electric charging stations was back in 2008? Last mention the car of the review costs 50.000 dollars and i'm pretty sure it's not the basic model, how does it cost a tesla? 85.000 dollars the cheapest version and it can come to 135. So my conclusion is don't blame the new technologiy. The best for as is to have more options and if it's better for the environment or cheaper why not? Why all of you are so negative in something new i cant understand.
"I'm a gas-burning, tyre-spinning jerk" kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk you and me both mate.
With the brakes, why don't companies use ' traditional brakes system' in current day cars? Wouldn't they be more effective ?
This technology may very well be the future of transport.
One question, if it runs on hydrogen fuel, why does it have regen braking? Supercapacitors?
I believe there is a small bank of batteries. Generally, this helps to balance out the irregular loads of city driving so the fuel cell can operate at a more constant and efficient power output. Also allows for braking regen as you stated.
A small battery, like in other hybrid cars.
h2 ---> fuel cell --> batteries -- > < -- motor /// anything that charges the batteries is welcomed
Bio fuels?
How much to fill the tank. What’s the price
Same as gas
It’s a good idea to have fuel cell as well as battery driven vehicles. That way if the elements to battery electric vehicles become to sparse we also have fuel cell.
Elements aside, electrons are a whole lot more prevalent. And I can refuel this in my garage?
When we make a machine to divide water into H2 and O2 for home use... But it takes 5 minutes to fill it up so it isn't a problem
How much for the fuel , and how many gal. does that car has?
H2 has 2.8 times the energy of gasoline. So it has a smaller tank
@@sharl_leg Are you just trolling or do you really think that?
1 kg (kilogram!) of hydrogen is the energy equivalent of 2.8 liters of gasoline!
But 1 kg of hydrogen is ~25 liters at 700 bar and 0°C.
The big tank volume limits the range of hydrogen cars.
Author, you did't mention how much for hydrogen? How much it cost ?
Same as petrol
@@thepotrozebie a bit more expensive now,but will be much cheaper
Is the fuel cell something like HHO generator? If so, the fuel from the station is water enough. Isnt it? Shouldn't hydrogen anymore. Cause the fuel cell will generate hydrogen. Why need hydrogen station? Why?
Plenty water at home or anywhere.
You mixed it up. You use hydrogen,and get water as a byproduct
0-60 in 9.5 seconds. I guess he forgot to switch of the eco mode. LMAO
@Nob the Knave hybrid cars a faster than most gas vehicles too from 0
At 6:46 the tire rotation matches the frame rate and it looks like a glitch haha
why dose it have regen brakes? its an internal combustion engine that runns on hydrogen instead of gas like the vido though th
Grant Lawrence it still has a battery... Hydrogen doesn't combust on its own.
No, the Mirai has no internal combustion engine, only an electric motor.
Electricity comes from the fuel cell and is buffered by a small battery.
Electricity from regnerative braking gets stored in the battery.
The 500e doesn't have DC-fast-charging.
This guy drinks rotten dinosaurs for breakfast.
Why do alternative energy vehicles look so god damn hideous? With the exception of Tesla. I just don't get it.
Take a look at the BMW i8.
Because their aero helps maximizing it's efficiency
Look at the 2021 Mirai redesign. Looks cool
@@sharl_leg Car companies don't want to change the paradigm. Cars are a funding source for companies that make them. Service department is the biggest source of funding. The cars of the past were made to break and supply a source of revenue. Parts, labor and consumables. Electric cars have no oil changes, smog tests tuneups. etc...No wonder only Tesla is thriving in the EV arena.
But what about the longevity of the rechargeable batteries? Don't they die after about 500-600 charging cycles? Will they last 2 years of daily use? Are the batteries not very expensive to replace? How long does it take to charge the batteries? As for station costs, say a $1 million hydrogen station can fully fuel in 5 min per car, so 60 / 5 = 12 cars per hour. If it takes say, 3 hours/car for a battery fully charge and to effectively serve 12 cars per hour, you would need 36 chargers so cost is 36 * 15,000. = 540,,000. Add to that, real estate costs, waiting room facilities, and value of your time. Seems cost of an electric station are comparable if not more. Seems to me unless the battery longevity and charging time issues are resolved, fuel cells have an advantage.
Blazing Dumpster first off your logical is flawed. It takes about 45 minutes at a Tesla supercharger to get more range the this crappy hydrogen car does. Also people have driven EVs 100,000+ miles and only lost 4-5 miles or range, the way batteries degrade is a lot at first and then they level at and take a long time to degrade. Also what do we know about hydrogen, after till will it wear away something in the car because of how cold it is. What happens if a part gets very brittle from the cold and the 10,000 PSI shoots back at you.
Fuel cells degrade quickly and require replacement in 3-5 years at a comparable cost to replacing an EV battery pack. So to do their storage tanks. Hence why most lease terms offered are 3 years... Also, you're way off on your pack degradation rates. Tesla packs are now observed in the real world to last minimum 3000 charge cycles until only 80% capacity remains. This equates to about 15 years of driving for the average person. Could easily have to rebuild a gas engine twice before replacing your battery pack.
@@Bryan46162 yes,but batteries kill the environment,so no. EVs are not the future by a long shot unless we make a new element that is so widespread that we can't run out of it. Which won't happen
The refueling situation will get better in the next 10 years or so as that network for that hydrogen fuel cell big rig comes online. The Nicola One.
Here we are in 2021. Does Toyota keep building this vehicle?
This isn’t just an environment saver, hydrogen when compared to the same volume of gas provides a much higher amount of power. That means you only need a fraction of hydrogen compared to gasoline to combust an engine. Not to mention hydrogen can easily be pulled out of water.
It has 2.8 times the energy
Ten years ago there was someone just like you saying the same exact things about electric cars. Oh there's only 20 charging stations, blah, blah, blah... of course there is a lag between new tech and infrastructure, but it always catches up.
And this is FAR better than an EV (the technology)
wait, did he say $60k?
It is a newer technology,it's gonna be expensive NOW. EVs were the same
It looks like a Pontiac Aztek and a Toyota Prius had a baby
New things must start somewhere! Thumbs up to pioneers and risk takers, THUMBS DOWN to people like you who discourage needed pioneering
I wish he would have said something about what the ride was like. Whether there was a lot of road noise and comfort level. Instead he focused more on his opinion and precognition about the success of the technology. I just want a comfortable quiet electric ride I don't have plan my whole day around in order to fill. If they get more stations I will buy one. I'm not even concerned about the environment I just like a silent engine.
If you have a place to plug an EV at night you will have a "full" tank" every morning. The only case you need to plan more carefully is when you go on a long distance trip. In that case EVs are able to such a trip, unlike Fuel cells as there is no cross country hydrogen refueling stations.
@@shnazshin now there aren't. People forget it was the same with EVs!
Why he says ugly? I think they have a decent look.
FC才是未來主流！
There's lots of hydrogen in our star, but getting it out is not cost effective vs letting it fuse and collecting the energy via solar panels.
What would it take to convert a vehicle to a Hydrogen Fuel Cell?
Money
@@sharl_leg Lots of it.
I thought Hydrogen Fuel Cell technology was the future 15 years ago. Boy, was I wrong.
Why? It's still the future, where people need a compact non-thorium fuel source for their space scooters.
Fuel cell technology peaked during the space race.
Struja je za neke druge stvar,a auti nisu samo prijevozno sredstvo nego i ljubimci koji vesele ljude svojim posebnim zvukovima sabijanjem goriva.
Mislim da je vodik super stvar,dapace ako jos nesto postoji slicno vodiku da ne zagađuje neka se koristi.
SAMO NE ZELIM DA MOTORI SA UNUTARNJIM SAGARANJEM NE ODU U PROŠLOST!
Nažalost hoće. Volim ih,ali ne mogu da nastave da postoje. Većina EU država je zabranila korišćenje automobila sa unutrašnjim sagorijevanjem nakon 2030.
Wow it sounds like the 2018 version bumped the mileage significantly boasting 300+ range. I also hear it's under 60k. He also makes no mention about road noise or how quiet the cabin is D:
I do like that you're an inch taller than me so I finally have some real world comparrisons to work with.
ohh! Just today, we (Hawaii) just opened our first (open to public) hydrogen station! They say Mirai's will be available by the end of the month... for lease (DUN DUN DUUUUUNNNNNN). We still get the free fillups but I guess the dealer (yes... dealer... as in one... because servco has a monopoly over this place... damn squids) get's the tax credits D:
Well for someone on Hawaii it actually makes a lot of sense! That’s awesome!
5 kg of hydrogen gives 500 kms, refuelling just 3 minutes - 85 KWh lithium ion battery weight 540 kgs, 4 hours charging time. Hydrogen can be created at home using electrolysis - Google ACTA hydrogen battery. Just add more hydrogen tanks & you can travel 1000's of kms. With hydrogen no self discharge, cell balancing, overcharging, over discharge & other maintenance issues.
Since hydrogen is a small molecule you do have hydrogen loss over time with a hydrogen fuel tank.
after watching a documentary of how EV car batteries are made, seems to me that toyota made the best choice (one more time) on how to move forward of fossil fuels.In a decade or maybe earlier, the cost to build a battery car due to lack of lithium, cobalt and nickel required for its batteries will be extremely high, but investing in an actually endless fuel as hydrogen( which by the way is not wasted during the operation but simply turned into water) is the only way to move along, dont forget that instead of private cars sector, there so many other sectors that this technology can be used, even ships can generate their own fuel while at sea by pumping and electrolysing hydrogen, well done toyota!!!!!!
It’s 2019. And there is still no fueling stations within 50 miles of my home. I live in a heavily populated county in California. I was wondering why you can pick these up for 12,000 dollars for. 2014 or 2016. The thing that’s really stupid, even Toyota dealers don’t have them. Great selling tool?!?!?
The same was with EVs. New tech needs to grab on,and this will for sure. If it doesn't, we're doomed.
Maybe this should tell you something. With a Tesla you can charge anywhere there is a plug. Not so with Fool Cells. I Bought my 2016 30kw Nissan Leaf for 13,550. Meets all my needs.
@@LawrenceRhodes ah,yes. Let's compare new tech against something that was mainstream in 2008. Look, it's all down to personal preference. It is a fact that batteries and electric cars in general pollute when made. Batteries do last longer than fuel cells,but fuel cells are a new thing. We have to wait and see in the future,but batteries won't be as good as fuel cells as they are heavy and can't hold as much energy (and the charging time is atrocious) as fuel cells. The fact that the "almighty Elon" said that his business's main competitor is stupid just shows how good of a business man he is. If Teslas ran on hydrogen,he would say that batteries are stupid. That is how a good business man works, someone will become competitive and can reduce my profits,bash on his tech and say it is stupid,and every person that is an Elon fanboy will listen,thus reducing the cars bought,thus killing the Earth as you need to drive 80 000 km on 100% clean energy JUST to become pollution neutral. Hydrogen cars are automatically neutral as they can turn CH4 into C02 (CH4 is 21x worse when it comes to greenhouse gases) so it actually cleans the earth from CH4. If using electrolysis it is as clean as the electricity (if it's green,the car is green. The same works with BEVs). Jet engines destroy the O3 layer,good luck getting electric planes with batteries,as batteries pollute when made and are heavy. H2 planes can easily be made. Time will tell who will win,but for the planet's sake,hope for H2.
@@sharl_leg If it was viable it would catch on. It is not so it won't. You can't drive out of California. A failed experiment. More expensive and less efficient. Also the KABOOM factor.
1 million dollar for the station FOR NOW. it will obviously go down along with hydrogen fuel price
so is this water fuel or what
Yes
No, it's hydrogen.
Which could be produced by electrolyzis of water with a lot of electricity.
But today, it's mainly produced by steam reformation of natural gas.
Water isn't the fuel, but the exhaust.
These cars are literally around $7,000 now...lol
Might have to cop one then
If more stars from the country states would advocate for these type of cars it would help and these vehicles need to have unique features like what Telsa have done to interest the public. So far from what I've seen Hydrogen cars should stick to SUV/Crossovers until they find away those tanks don't take too much space from the cargo space and backseat.
Thought you said "ford" windshield 😂
I really hope there aren’t any big crashes involving one of these. If that hydrogen catches on fire, everything’s going to explode just like the Hindenburg. If you get one of these, you’re basically driving a bomb.
They don't light on fire or explode as the gas leaves the car before it has the chance to go kaboom. There were tests
it is the highest time that politicians & lawmakers change this, they could have done this years, even decades before
I wonder if it's just my tinfoil hat but I wonder if there's a reason the hydrogen stations are so expensive to install.
I saw plans in the UK that put construction and operating costs of a hydrogen production and sale court under those of a traditional forecourt.
You have to have very powerful pumps. Just another reason not to fool cell. Might as well just use a Natural Gas car.
Electric switches and such are mass produces and therefore inexpensive. Fuel Cell technology is not mass produced. It is however similar to natural gas and uses similar tech. The pumps the cracking technology etc..all expensive and analog. Electric is digital. Look at the EPA fuel economy site. Battery Electric 120mpge. Fuel Cell 66mpge. No brainer.
Great technology. Hopefully will be the future (easier to refuel and better for the environment than battery). BUT why make it so ugly? With this technology there's no restriction on the shape.
The 2021 car looks great,these? Not at all
In the early 1960's California state fair. A Cadillac was on display; it was a fuel cell car!
Thats is 55 years ago or more. Just the facts.
OVER 1/2 A CENTURY AND STILL WAITING.
It's impossible to cheat physics, hydrogen is the tiniest molecule in the universe, I doubt that material(s) for tanks that will not leak will be ever invented.
It might have been a hydrogen powered car, but probably no fuel cell car. Maybe ICE, maybe gas turbine,...
Miniaturization of fuel cells to fit into a car happened in the 1990ies.
Same was said for plug in electric vehicles. Ugly, too expensive, no infrastructure. Now we have EV cars selling all over the place and plug in spots across the country. For hydrogen we're over halfway there as gas stations have water and electricity. All is needed is the one-site machine to pull hydrogen from the water.
All electric vehicles are still ugly though
1985cactus Tesla’s are ugly?
As a sin.
Plug-ins won't be taking over in the future unless the government mandates the amount of vehicles per household. In my home we have 5 cars running on gas and we can't handle a mild SoCal summer without having to deal with blackouts. Imagine having to plug in 1-5 cars for hours while trying to get your AC to work? Now take 2.5 of those cars and multiply it by one block and tell me if you think our infrastructure is anywhere close to being able handle that much usage. I like electric and I like the idea of hydrogen but until we can get the utility companies and the government to stop being so inefficient and corrupt (good luck) it will fail. Also forget automated cars because the city workers can't even figure out how to remove an old white line and paint a new white line correctly.
@Nob the Knave There are and never were any muscle cars in my country, so no.
If you thought about it for a second, there are more sources of Hydrogen then the ones you pointed out. You just need a device to pump it into the vehicle (this device if installed in the vehicle rather than the refilling station would allow you to recharge from any low pressure storage bottle. Alternatively, a standalone unit could be carried in times where re-filling from a low pressure bottle is expected.
Lastly: Massive advancements are being made in the Hydrogen production process
that will greatly improve the energy efficiency of the process making it a much more cost effective and highly feasible to do on a house hold level. The house could be run on hydrogen from a unit consisting of a Hydrogen generator(s), reservoir and a storage tank for vehicular use.
U nearly convinced me your advocation of EV’s is actually a review of a Hydrogen Fuel Cell car. Nearly....
Why are you reviewing the infrastructure? Of course its not at EV level, thats because the UN council want to move away from dependance on foreign oil but still want centralised control of the energy source and EV is the logical choice...
If you were being fair you would compare the implications of running out of energy in an inconvenient location in both vehicles. Conceptually, u can refill your Hydrogen car from a portable tank and pump in the space of minutes, not so in EV car.... U would compare the implications of long haul trips in both cars. Hydrogen car is the same as a conventional car, EV takes a liiittle longer (fast charge options are available but these are not good for battery longevity whatsoever)
U would compare the ability to produce its energy source from home. EV car requires means of charging a storage battery of equivalent Amp hours, (big.... And thats 1 spare charge per battery equivalence) Hydrogen car requires means of powering a device that produces Hydrogen and a means of storing it safely and a means of re-filling your car. ADDITIONALLY, a spare tank and pump (or interchangeable tank incorporated into car design) could be carried for longer trips, doubling or tripling your range.
AND you (every EV advocator) neglects to mention the materials required to manufacture these batteries and the need to dispose of them correctly at end of its lifespan. (Many forms of lithium Ion batteries but the most energy dense material used along side the Lithium is also the most toxic, so it is often used as a means to save costs)
And what is powering the recharge stations? Fossil fuel will still be required to a degree but will not be require the complex transport network to refill the fuel stations.
At the end of the day though. Only focusing on costs is extremely shortsighted.
People like him are shortminded and stupid
why they don't make hybrid gas and hydrogen , like submarine , use gas to generate enough electricity to turn water into hydrogen to fill the hydrogen tank .
Tyson is testing in the semis with hydrogen engines
Tedius review
Adding solar powered hydrogen generator or electric charging stations to homes plus hydrogen and charging stations is the way forward for fueling our vehicles. We should add hydrogen fueling stations to the EV super charging stations nationally.
Actually, since Hydrogen is matter, it only makes up 3.675% of the universe. It makes up approximately 75% of everyday matter in the universe though.
Another good idea that is so high priced, that you would have to be a fool to buy.
Just like all those fools that bought Tesla Roadsters and Model S.
It is new technology,prick
What happens if you crash? Will the tanks/car blow up and kill you like a bomb would? Don't sound to safe to me.
It's safer than anything else as it doesn't light on fire and the H2 leaves the tank as gas upon impact so it's fine
Breaking News: Self-powering hydrogen production is now possible with a new science breakthrough in Enhanced Electrolysis. Superseding conventional methods. Now there is a glimmer of hope for the hydrogen infrastructure. See our channel for more info.
Keep up the informative videos.
Oh cool, a "perpetuum mobile"! If it works, I would try to patent it before posting it on CZcams! :-D
But presenting it on CZcams is the only way to bring it to light before you get murdered!
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@@701983 lmao soo true
You are so funny..he he..he he...Need to study physics.
The real future of hydrogen infrastructure is in on-site generation. Essentially all the costs would be initial. Once the wind turbine/solar panel array/Modular Nuclear reactor, and electrolysis machine with the cathode isolated from the anode by an ion-permeable membrane using iron-nickle oxide electron perforated electrodes and turbo-molecular pump and pressure vessels are installed All you really need to bring in is water. (Bonus: pure oxygen if anyone wants it)
Ugly what? I think it looks sweeettt
I live in Southern Oregon and drive a 100% electric Nissan Leaf. I purchased it used for $7,000. Plugging in at home is super convenient. Why try to reinvent the wheel? Tesla and Chevrolet are now selling 200+ mile range electric vehicles to the masses for less than $40,000 dollars. Where is Toyata and their commitment to the Rav 4 EV?
Batteries pollute when made,extracted,disposed. EVs also pollute more than any other car when made
Germany's train just needs water
There is no train in Germany which just needs water for propulsion.
Water is not an energy source.
If you referred to the Coradia iLint: This fuel cell train is fueled by compressed hydrogen, like this car.
Es kommt aus der Lifer Autos Industriel von Techniker...Ob man sich Zählen können....?
Nienand gezwungen Belastungen....