Final Thoughts on the Apple Studio Display
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- čas přidán 28. 03. 2022
- With the review out, Marques and Andrew go over some of their final thoughts regarding the new Studio Display. Still, Marques hasn't decided whether or not he wants to switch over to it for good or just wait for the upcoming Mac Pro (whenever that comes out).
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Getting the Retina ~218 PPI resolution for me is the determining factor for displays since I work with a lot of text. This limits me to 4K in a 24inch, 5K in a 27 inch size. Not many options for 5K 27in…Studio Display is a good option for those requirements.
This is why I’m considering picking one up. Probably will. I code all day so seeing smooth text is just so nice.
@@SteveBoyer10 totally! I’m a developer too. Can’t beat smooth text.
Exactly 👍🏻
Oh a group of gay iSheeps with petty excuses to justify the lame studio display.
BINGO
Software developer here… Bought a Studio display and after using it for 10 minutes combined with another LG 27inch display, I bought a second one. Screen quality and build quality is awesome and next level. Can’t compare it to the regular comparable monitors but the Apple Studio display is very very good. Expensive yes but so are all other Apple products. Additionally, it works flawlessly and looks beautiful on my desk. Very happy camper here 👍
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That’s def a flex
@@RazaSyed12345 can’t say that it isn’t a flex but also an expression of joy as these monitors are awesome to me.
A side note is that if you want a Windows desktop to use the Apple Studio monitors (me for VR development only) you do need a special cable (DisplayPort) that is capable of doing it. Not every cable can, even though the specifications match (very annoying).
@@TimothyBrakeplease give an update ? , after 1 year , what do you think ?
@@smartlearning6390 Sure. After 1 year of using the 2 Apple Studio Display monitors (glossy), they are still amazing. I’m using these for professional software coding for 8-10 hours each day, connected to a macbook pro. These are the best monitors I’ve ever had without even anything coming close. Text is crystal clear and sharp. The build quality is next level and looks good on a desk. The sound is also of such quality that I don’t have additional speakers on my desk. The camera supposed to be a bit less but I don’t see any issues and it works as expected.
The only downside was (but working now) trying to find a way to also hook these to my Windows desktop for VR coding. It only accepts thunderbolt cables but my desktop only has HDMI and DisplayPort. No cable worked except the cable mentioned in my previous post and I also don’t yet have audio using the Windows desktop but that could be me and possible that it can be done.
If you have the money and it doesn’t hurt you financially, this is a no-brainer purchase.
I just asked a colleague that also purchased a glossy one and he mentioned he’ll never go back to none-glossy.
So they are very good monitors and you won’t be disappointed. Go to a store and check them out, play some music, use the camera and experience them first hand.
My only complaint on the price is that until a few weeks ago I could have gotten an iMac with the same panel for not much more.
exactly
You can still get it now for even less…
True
Still can and that's what I will probably do. I want a 27 inch display, AIO, with ports and Apple no longer makes that product.
That's what I thought, but I went to see it in the Apple store and it's better than my base 27 inch Retina iMac.
I love mine, the Spatial Audio is unbelievable and the studio camera is great for basic stuff. It is worth every penny! No buyer’s remorse here! The plug and play options are dope and build quality unsurpassed. I have the basic version and love it.
I’m in the same boat. No buyers remorse, even I got the height adjustable version. I think it worth every penny.
What I find hilarious is the idea that someone Pitched the cable idea.... At a table they stared at the idea for this monitor after years of making IMac's and Monitors, they said "Hey guys.... What if we make it so you can't remove the power cable on your own!!" BRILLIANT!!! No one thought to say "Why? What's the point?" I've never had a broken IMac cable and I've had 2 over the last 13 years but I still like being able to remove or replace it if I have too!
I was exactly the type of person Apple was aiming at. I’ve tried tons of different monitors combos with my macs. None of them were “as good” for me as the Apple Thunderbolt Display and 17 inch MBP. When I saw this in the stores, I knew it was exactly what I wanted. Good talk gents. Love the conversation!
im always disappointed after a day of working on my imac then moving to my 4k LG connected to m1 mbp, theres a dramatic color and brightness difference...i think I have to just bite the bullet
@@LegendsGoShorts apple not bringing back Target Display Mode with TB3 was a crime tbh
I'm getting a Dell 49" to go with my Mac Studio. I don't know why people always cry about Apple products when they have a lot of choice.
What I'm interested in is what will Apple do with this whole iPhone inside this monitor in the future
They will likely do nothing, or gatekeep features exclusively for people who are willing to buy an expensive accessory to accommodate the 'innovative feature' they are sure to present like they invented
It does some things very well that you might want. For me it’s the build quality and the pixel density. Very few monitors are good in both categories. There are options out there, but a very limited amount. And if you only have such a small choice, personally for me it’s a bummer that the Studio display is this expensive.
@@sonnyrynsaard3567 one thing they never do is hold a gun to people's head and force them to buy but people will cry about "appel bad".
@@Jus-Tin Well yeah because they're disgustingly anti consumer. And they sort of do by locking features easily implemented to other platforms to only other apple products
(NFC, for example)
49"? It better be 8K or else it has pixels the size of a stamp. I went Retina in 2012 with the first MacBook with a retina screen and I will never go back to a screen with visible pixels.
I'd like to have an Apple display for my MacBook Air M1, but... I will not pay for display $1599, when I bought MacBook 16/512 for $1300... Currently I'm using Samsung M7 32" 4k mostly for coding and I'll probably switch to LG UltraFine 32UN88A-W for $600-650, due to IPS panel instead of VA and great monitor arm...
I can't believe some of the items you are comparing this to. You have had the Pro XDR display so you are used to looking at that. I have had the 4k LG 24 monitor and this blow it out of the water. So thrilled to have an Apple Great display to hook to my M1 Mini. The clarity is unreal and I cannot stress that enough. My desk is just beautiful now and I cant wait to turn it on because it is just a gorgeous monitor to look at and I love the speakers as well--got rid of my old ones. You are spoiled by what you already have, think of the little guy when doing your reviews. Coming from what I had, this is awesome!
This is an excellent point
if you have 2 studio display .. will the speaker auto adjust ?
Haha I loved the play on the Nothing event for the outro!
Just came on to say that is a sick background. Very nicely done.
The non-removable power cable is a real pain in the UK. UK plugs are very wide (5cm/2in). It's awkward to fit that through a cable grommet if you already have a large number of cables going through.
I'm looking at photos and the VESA mount looks centred to me?
I had a normal 27” before the 5k iMac, and it was amazing. I never worried about the screen at all. Maybe because the computer was the focus? But since this is a display only I guess it gets a tougher focus on its features. At the end of the day all it is, is a bit too expensive. Everything else is fine for what it is, basically an iMac screen without an iMac, it’s just too close to iMac cash without being an iMac.
ultrafine 4k 24" refreshed 2 years ago (2 Thunderbolt 3 USB-C ports, 3 USB C ports) has no problems!
As someone that is HUGE on aesthetics, needs a 5k native monitor, enjoys built in speakers, mics, camera (hopefully it gets a software update) and needs the ability to plug and play with my MacBook - it’s not the worst deal. Do I wish it was either $1299 or 120hz, sure. Is it a deal breaker, not really.
What I really want is target display mode to come back so I can just use my iMac as a monitor…
Better monitors, always, for half the price
@@dertythegrower the LG is not half the price. The price delta isnt that much considering the Studio monitor isnt flimsy plastic, has much better speakers, significantly better microphone, and is more reliable. The surprise to me is the LG not being cheaper.
120 hz should be a deal breaker at that price. its hard to go back to 60 after being used to 120+
@@dertythegrower did you just ignore everything he said? Lol
@@tonyhawk123 more reliable? And this is based on what data exactly? We know staring tiff the bat camera has issues. Will they be able to fix that we’ll see
I was hoping for a basic 5K display to go with a Mac mini or basic studio. I wish there was still a way to use the display of my aging 2017 iMac with a newer Mac.
Sorry Apple want to you buy the new studio display instead of using the iMac display.
There is. Luna Display now supports a 5k resolution. Using my 2014 5k iMac with my new MBP.
Yeah I didn’t feel like dishing out an extra 1500 after buying the base mac studio so I went with a 4K 28’ Samsung monitor for under 300 and im loving it
Can you connect to studio display to the HomePod or HomePod mini?
I have had the monitor for almost 2 weeks now and was thinking about returning it after all the reviews/price. The monitor has been growing on me though.I work as a software engineer and look at text all day. My eyes are really sensitive and I notice any pixelation or when something "feels off." I think what makes the difference for me is the glossy 5k display, brightness, and the black glass borders. There really isn't an alternative for me atm unless I pay $4k+. I wish I could connect my PC(non-thunderbolt)/PS5 though, lol.
Oh wait, you can't plug a PS5 in? 😭
@@stephenward9468, I just learned about PS5 remote play, so I may have a solution, lol
@@seanb7443 gutted! But yea, remote play is not too bad for latency, best for single player games I find but obviously, it all depends on your internet/how you connect to the PlayStation etc
I’ve been looking for a monitor for a few years seem like and all have been high. Then when you read reviews of them some highly anticipated they have issues then you find out customer service is not good in dealing with issues. Then you have manufacturers that have bad panel lottery. Most of the ones I was looking at were around $1299 with those other issues. I paid extra but I feel that’s for Apple’s QC and customer service.
If the Studio display came with 120 hz, then I was all in.
I love the design of the Apple Studio Display, but I wouldn’t buy it because it doesn’t have a built-in KVM or multiple input sources for using it with multiple computers. I have a Dell 40” curved monitor hooked up to 3 different computers and can do picture-in-picture to have screen space for all three computers at the same time.
Shhh! Here’s a little secret… Don’t tell anybody… But you can get an adapter so you can connect it to any computer.
Picture in picture? Who does that? Is that still a thing?
@@2424rocket Not really a proper solution, monitors with KVM built in mean that you can fully switch computer by just pressing a button (or using a key binding via DDC/CI), compared to actually having to unplug shit and plug it back in, that's just a hassle. Although I don't really see the value in picture and picture
@@2424rocketI tested this at the Apple store where I plugged in two of their own Macs (14” MBP and Mac Studio) into the display, but it won’t recognize a computer plugged into any of the 3 USB-C ports. Only the Thunderbolt 4 port. In the end, you’ll need to purchase a KVM switch…which is hard to find or rather expensive when most don’t support the 5k resolution at 60hz.
Picture-in-Picture is great on a huge monitor. I work on large video projects (2-3 hour timeline) and when it’s time to export the file I can check it’s progress while using a second computer to do other work on the same monitor.
What can I say? You could either change the way you work or buy a PC instead of a Mac. I have no problems with this new Mac studio whatsoever. Haven’t received mine yet but when I do I get two weeks to send it back if I’m not happy… But I’m sure I will be elated. And I don’t know what editing program you use it I would suggest you switch to resolve 17.
Once you learn it, it’s the best editing system in the world.
But good luck to you anyways.
it DOESN"T!???? good thing I read this
You guys really convinced me not to get the Imac studio. Which been checking other channel and you guys got it right I think. On a side note I was waiting from Apple to bring in the new imac 27 desktop but that was a disappointment 😒. But I like that fax that there are others monitor out there, can you guy do a review on the Monitor Samsung 32b4k UHD AND Monitor 27 LG QN880 or give me your options on what 27 inch Monitor you would recommend & why
Thanks you guys
Can we connect Samsung tab s8 ultra as a monitor with Apple Mac studio M1 ultra 🙏🏼
If yes then how we can connect please tell me 🙏🏼
The VESA Mount Adapter on the VESA option is actually perfectly in the center, btw.
isnt it supposed to be like this L
@@vectorpacer2063 I was just saying because the person on the left said the VESA Mount Adapter is off centered/below center.
I ordered one bc I’m lucky enough to have the means to, and I’m sure I’ll enjoy it. I’m a graphic designer so I use my eyes for a living, but I’m sure I don’t need an 8k 360 no scope monitor to do my job well 🤙
You must be a really bad designer.
I would prefer if this was a legit “Apple TV”. It has the hardware. 🤷🏻♂️
Too small though.
@@sundaynightdrunk
Agreed, but it would make a good proof on concept and people are clearly buying enough of them to fund it haha.
But they want you to also get an Apple TV. They could either give the consumer more for the product or make them want to get both.
@@JimmerzzOfficial Then they could just build the app into MacOS. I would love to have it on my M1 iMac.
@@sundaynightdrunk Why would they do that when they know you will just buy another device from them and be more locked into their ecosystem.
I would LIKE IT but they want you stuck.
It's crazy how almost just the naming could be the price setter of Apple's products. They just name something in a certain way and even if it's not actually worth those money, people will buy it because the name targets the exact market they're aiming at
that and brand loyalty. Apple has the most loyal of all customer bases. It's like a damn cult
@@luisch1708 People will just read Apple on the product and buy it ahaha. I mean you can easily notice that if you consider the Magic mouse. It technically sucks and it's so pricey but people are willing to buy it because it's Apple. Sell that same mouse with a different brand at the same price and they'll sell zero
@@flokanker2610 I deliberately bought a Magic Mouse because it’s a huge pain to not be able to use multi touch gestures on MacOS. That being said the form factor is the worst of any mouse on the market right now. I just wish there was another mouse that supports multi touch; I dont know if there are any
@@flokanker2610 Why does it suck that people choose to buy something with their own money? Why does that bother people? Is someone using their money to buy a product from a brand they like affecting you in any way or form? Man just leave people let them do whatever the fck they want with their money jeez
@@krazymeanie Man I'm not saying it sucks that people buy Apple products, i'm saying it sucks that Apple does some products that could be way better. They just purposefully don't make them better because they know they're gonna make money anyway because they have such a powerful brand.
The cable is not unpluggable probably because of the A13 chip inside, which is designed to be battery powered (wouldn't make sense inside this monitor), maybe the chip doesn't like it when suddenly loses power.
Maybe, just a guess.
Okay so cool, but now can someone make a video covering the experience of using a Studio Display as a 2nd monitor of an iMac Retina 5K 27”
- Does the audio work in both screens?
- Which camera will be used?
- How’s the workflow?
Could you review the new smart monitor samsung announced? The one that can do some PC tasks without a PC
"Mine looks like I sneeze on it every day" 🤣
yeah I agree, the moment you look at other monitors. its game over for the Apple Studio Dislay
yes.... but then anyone that is going to an apple store is probably never going to see any other types of monitors. For some of us that know how to look for a monitor that will have the specs we want, we can find something better or about the same for way less money. But for anyone that just wants to buy something at the apple store, that is the monitor they are going to get.
To say build quality and features is better than LG, its game over for the LG. Too close to the Studio display in price.
There’s nothing in this price range that suits pro-consumer users right now. LG did a sloppy job and everything else is 4K. Apple picked a good battle.
@@tonyhawk123 you can get second hand lg for 500 so don’t think so
@@whitecrowuk575 last i checked, apple don't see their stuff at second-hand prices
Love the ending lol 😆😆
What's the wallpaper?
The LG ultra fine 5k is great, but compared side by side now that I have both, the LG has significantly more IPS glow. Also The LG just doesn't calibrate as well with the M Macs for some reason. And now that you can find the studio display on sale for 1350, it's a no brainer. Also just a note, the first studio display I purchased had a backlight bleed and the speakers didn't sound right. I exchanged and the second had zero light bleed and speakers sounded noticeably better. its weird.
I love everything about that studio monitor. Minus the cable situation and the price. I’m not gonna be able to buy one in the foreseeable future. But I’m dreaming about it.
Studio Display sucks.
There is a big issue with the display that reviews have not yet addressed. No its not the unacceptably horrendous webcam. The issue is that the monitor runs its own operating system (IOS) to manage the camera, microphone and speakers. Like any device running a consumer based operating system, it can't be run indefinitely without restarting it or you run into issues. If you don't restart your iPad or iPhone for weeks or months you will eventually experience all kind of issues. I got my studio display on March 18. yesterday my camera started acting up, then the microphone and speakers would stop working sporadically. After hours with Apple support it was determined the monitor needs to restart. BUT there is no way to do it, it has no power button and no way to actuality shut it down or reboot/restart properly. So the only way to do restart the display is to unplug it from the power source for a minute and plug it back in. We did so and its working fine again. However, doing it that way means you are crashing the build-in OS rather than properly restarting it. That of course can potentially damage the display just like crashing your computer every time you want to restart it.
Lol. There actually is people out there who love to complain about everything and with no common sense 😂 you had to spend “hours” with apple support to realize you had to unplug the monitor for a minute to restart it. Man now I know why shampoos come with instructions.
I think folks forget that people are still buying/selling ten year old thunderbolt displays - that’s what I’ve got and it still works great with my M1 Mac - considering this new one if it reducing screen glare. If these monitors last as long as the old ones, it’s probably worth it.
These waveforms make my day😊😊
Man
Except the apple shilltastic ones, which sadly is like 85% of his content the last few years
@@rudreshjha1457 likely a bot, thats all the bots comment now to get ebeggar likes
@@dertythegrower I personally don't mind them but that's very true😶
@@dertythegrower yeah a bot
I was hoping Apple would have done a base model 24" 4.5k screen (Same as new imac without computer) as the entry level monitor near the $1000 price point, and they could have marketed that as a possible second display for existing iMac users, or as a single or dual monitor setup for Mac Mini/Mac Studio etc. I think The 27" 5K panel needed to be mini led (though high refresh rates don't seem to be possible with current bandwidths so I'd be fine with 60hz) and could have landed in a higher price point like $2599-3000 ish (which is what 32" OLED monitors are going for), and that could have been marketed as a companion for MacBook Pros or for higher end creative studios using super powered Mac Studios(where 27" iMacs were so plentiful). Then you'd have the Pro XDR at the top to top the specs for both size/resolution/price.
I think that would have been a nicer eco system with a lot of possibilities for personalization which would possibly bring in a varied customer base.
ofc marques finds a way to implement shoes into the video lmao. As a sneaker head myself, I'm here for it. Can we get a sneaker collection vid soon?
Rant: I don't understand why the only monitor people compare this studio display to has to be this one LG that just happens to use the same seven and a half year old panel. Compare it to some current Eizos or Dell Ultrasharp or Asus ProArt or whatnot... You know, something that actually makes sense IN A STUDIO in 2022! This Apple display doesn't self calibrate, doesn't do HDR, can't be used like a wacom tablet ... What studio is apple targeting with a monitor that doesn't do studio monitor things?
Said it before, I'll say it again: This is an imac without the mac for the price of an imac.
Naming: Studio display is a dumb name because it's a generic term. Remember the Cinema Display? Of course you do. Do you also remember the Cinema HD Display? And the LED Cinema Display? Now tell me which of those come in what sizes? .... See what I mean? ;-)
But monitor naming can be super simple. Dell is actually doing a great job there. For example I still have a U2711 somewhere. It has not been in use for years now but I still remember the name because it follows a pattern. It's U for the ultrasharp model line, 27 for size in inches and 11 for the year the monitor hit the market. U 27 11. Simple.
On point ☝️
It's get's compared to the LG because it's the only other 5k screen. And apple fans will by the Studio display no matter what, they already did, just take a look at r/macsetups.
@@MAGAIVER Yes, the LG has the same resolution / panel. That is what I already wrote. And secondly, a review of something does in no way require a certain customer behaviour.
Correct me if I’m wrong but the display isn’t waking up because of the display protocol. I remember Linus having issues with his display over display port? I could be totally wrong
I don’t understand why they wouldn’t include built in buttons to control brightness. How am I supposed to do that when connecting my work laptop?
i understood the logic but look how far you need to reach to justify buying this monitor, the only thing good about it in my opinion is the build quality and even that is a far fetched, i have my 2 monitors on an arm and they do a lot of weird noises if i move them but it's still a monitor, realisticly you're going to set it in one place and move it once a month.
In the review you guys pluged it to an ipad and the resolution wasn't right for the monitor, and guess what you can't change it, so not even the "it just works" saying holds up.
Studio Display sucks.
Justifying buying the monitor with "I want this monitor" is not reasonable, even tho reviews are subjective that metric just sucks. It's a six year old display without pro features and a onboard CPU that have no software support except for the webcam.
Can you elaborate on the new platform going after CZcams?
I’m using the Studio display in combo with a 34 inch Ultra Wide from Dell. I don’t regret my purchase AT ALL. The text on the Studio display is AMAZING! I’m a filmmaker regularly shooting 6k. So seeing my work on that glass display at 5K is awesome. The color is stunning and I love having the speakers as an extra source for audio referencing. The monitor is amazing.
Purchased it with the Mac Studio M1 Ultra, Monitor is way too small for the studio, height adjustment is very good, the standard one shouldn’t even be considered because is sitting way too low. I wish i ordered the Nano Texture its very reflective compare to the old iMac 27 but on all reviews people said quality is less and reading text annoys the eyes over time.
Ports at the back of the monitor! Why don’t they make it work with the Mac Studio for example let us connect our hard drive to the monitor and act like its connected to the mac studio, it has an iphone 11 chip in it then why not make it work with the Mac Studio.
I managed to crash M1 Ultra couple of times with just basic stuff, MacOS has bugs still that is not fixed over the last 10 years. Back Cable not coming off, in the studio we usually use a different cable that we can connect it to power conditioning with this we cannot do that and its a pain!
Turning on the Mac Studio that little power button at the back is very very inconvenient, why not adding a feature where we can turn the Mac Studio with the keyboard? Is that exist?
Opening MacBooks now it turn on by its self why not adding that feature to the Mac Studio?
I wish the Monitor was bigger with Mini LED and higher refresh rate!
In my opinion in the studio you need an updated pro XDR, studio display is not worth the price. But as there is no competitors this looks good and works well, speakers are not bad webcam is there when you need it! 👍🏼
It's a great monitor but just not different enough from my 27" iMac to justify purchasing. I think it needs to be 30" so it's more proportionate in size to the actual Studio computer.
Every other display is worse than the built-in 5K in a 27" iMac.
And this one is slightly better. Please, a 4K with 30" is as unsharp as an iMac Screen from 2009.
Apple should make their iMac repurposeable so you can use them as a monitor when the internal computer is no longer useful. I use an old 2009 iMac as a TV with a Google TV chromecast dongle. If Apple really cared about the environment they would. There are many 5k iMacs that could be kept out of landfill if Apple would let us use the as a monitor.
That is possible iirc. Google it
@@milandol321 it is possible with 3rd party software but not natively.
On its own, it may be fine. But it's an overkill in features and price if you wish to have two or three matching monitors on the desk. You don't need a webcam and built-speaker in every monitor but you do need the screens to be similar and calibrated with one another. Wish Apple would have produced "companion monitors" with only function to be a display to go side by side with the Studio Display at a cheaper price.
The Studio Display highlights for me a missed market opportunity for Apple - the iPhone SE of Apple monitors: a well-built Apple monitor, with more modest monitor features, but with speakers and webcam, that is plug and play with an M1 MacMini or M1 MacBook Air. Such a monitor would be perfect for home offices and avoid the real headache of finding monitors and webcam that integrate with MacOS right out of the box.
isn't the 24" iMac supposed to be the position that you are trying to say that the studio display should fill? The Mac mini is just for ppl who don't want a 24" iMac because in Apple terms its 'Modular' (you can bring your own items)
its an iMac that has a swappable cpu(Mac mini)..ive had four iMacs go obsolete and would much rather just sell the mini and keep the display. way cheaper in the long run once you need to replace
I saw one in an Apple Store and it underwhelmed me in it’s design. It didn’t have that Wow factor for me that the 27 inch did when it came out. It was so slim that even though it’s case is metal it looks flimsy. If it came in a 30 inch option maybe it would get sustained attention. I know many may suggest buying two for more screen real estate but that is just being underwhelmed times two.
Slim? The monitor is thick lol, nothing slim about it
Monitors undergo many revisions within a release as panel manufacturing and backend processing change. Those complex model names are important to differentiate between minor changes in display specs. The alternative is to have “ghost” revisions where you may be getting a slightly worse panel without really knowing it. Maybe there is a middle ground somewhere with human readable names and version numbers,
They are important, but they can be differentiated with more intelligible names. Maybe something clear and then having the exact model/version number in smaller print. Or just differentiating by when they are released (i.e. Spring 2022, like Apple does). Just a thought.
If the Studio Display changes specs, how about Gen I, II, etc? iPad Pro 12.9 Gen III is all I need to know to tell me the specs, rather than iPad Pro QrxT-129-w.
@@johncho8766 it won't work. Even in Asia the same model with have different variation sure to different regulations, pricing, internal specs, accessories. It's a daunting task to buy monitors nowadays.
New video platform....yaayy!!!
Samsung is releasing their Smart Monitor M8. I hope Marques checks it out at least for comparisons sake. It looks very similar in design and similar specs and much cheaper
One issue with using a lower pixel density display rather than the 5k display is Apple got rid on font smoothing in MacOS. So if you do a lot of writing... Anything less than 200ppi may look pretty bad.
No doubt a great product, however my problem is what us consumers are getting for the cost, I want a lot more for the price point and feel this should be retailing for £1149 in uk instead of the £1,499. This would put it in the price point of a display and base Mac mini bought together for the around the same as the 27" iMac it is replacing.
For its specs, the Studio display should have started at no higher than $999
Tech crowd is really weird with how they feel the need to tell people they're idiots for purchasing something that they wanted. 99% of the time it comes from the fact that they simply can't afford it, which is also fine.
If we were to work back from a price point of $1600 I wonder what could be achieved. If they took out the speakers and camera would that price permit height adjustment? Maybe not. I have mentioned elsewhere that I believe this to be one of those cynical products that gives us what Apple wants instead of what the customer actually needs. My first reaction was to imagine Steve Jobs being shown it without height adjustment and then being told about the significant increase for that basic facility. Would he have sent the designers back to the drawing board? I hope so. Apple have had a long time to source an improved panel and research what users of this display would actually need to do with it. The right display will eventually appear at a much higher price methinks.
Yes, for me, screw webcam and speakers, just want a monitor!
It would be cool if it had Ethernet cable like the new iMacs
Ok but who’s moving a monitor that expensive all the time like, and when you do move it how is the cable such a issue like …
Down to invest!
There is a gap in Apples product line now. The 24inch iMac isnt good enough for my work but the difference in price between the fully specd 24 inch imac to the next level desktop product, the Studio, is just too much.
Agreed. Hopefully they bring back the 27” iMac
If you need the power but not the screen, you could go for a Mac Studio with M1 Max and an affordable third party display. Otherwise if you need a nice display and a baseline M1 is fine, you could go for the Studio Display with a mac mini. Another option: wait for the mac mini with M1 Pro.
@@h4x0y Cheers, Im an advvertising photographer and need a display I can trust with respect to colour rendition etc. I was hoping for a new large iMac but have had to order the base Mac Studio with max ram and then the Studio display. Prabably a 30% increase in what I expected a 27 inch imac to cost at the specs I need.
@@Stacky18 I see. Now at least you end up with a dream setup. I'm not sure a hypothetical new 27" iMac would house the M1 Max, maybe M1 Pro at the most.
Marques you said even if the LG Ultra Fine 5K was $1300, there would still be people who buy the Apple Studio display, but you didn't expand upon or explain why this is acceptable (it seemed as though you are giving Apple a pass because you like Apple?).
For just $300 more you get a much better build. I’d choose the Studio Display at $1600 over $1300 LG 5k. It’s glossy glass on the front and it’s built with solid aluminum vs creaky plastic. But to each their own.
Honestly im a musician and can't even afford a Mac book only can afford widows but such is things, I love apple hardware but I also wish windows are Samsung to built a pc to support us as musicians im sure if they think about music side im sure they'll get a boost also in selling .. but grate video Marcus
The Huawei MateView 28.2 is a sick looking monitor at a way better price. Not sure how it plays with Macs but for windows users it's definitely a sweet option
Every review I have read or watched on CZcams for the Huawei MateView 28.2 point out the non-uniform brightness problem, where the edges are noticeably dimmer than than the center. Not having seen one in person, I can't say how bad it is, but it is worrisome.
I have it and bought Both, compared side to side. Im used to the 3:2 size now and i dont See Lightning Problems . Its way better with HDR
Not using a C13 plug (or smaller variant) is really stupid, the only time you need to go custom is normally for 3-phase power delivery. Hopefully they'll stop inventing new power connectors, even tho they spend so much in R&D.
Stonks only go up
Even as a normal I do not feel the Studio Monitor is overpriced for a 5K monitor with all of its options inside the Apple garden world. The LG Ultra HD 5K Ultra Slim USB-C Monitor Widescreen LED IPS LCD w/ Webcam - Black - 27MD5KA-B that I purchased because Apple does not have "Store delivery" as an option if you wish to purchase the Studio Display. The cost for the LG 27MD5KA-B model on Amazon is now from $1,319.95 to $1,560.00. So please get over the price.
So far no issue what so ever with the latest LG 27MD5KA-B with my setup of MacBook Air M1 chip with 8‑core CPU, 7‑core GPU, and 16‑core Neural Engine, 16GB unified memory, 2TB SSD storage, CalDigit TS4 Thunderbolt 4 Dock, and a LG Ultra HD 5K Ultra Slim 27MD5KA-B Monitor on a black NB North Bayou VESA Monitor Arm Desk Mount. For items that I have on another part of my desk purchased Anker 7-Port USB 3.0 Data Hub with 36W Power Adapter and BC 1.2 Charging Port.
This replaced this normals iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014). Thing is I was looking very hard at possibly purchasing a base line Mac Studio with 2TB SSD storage with a Studio Monitor. Love it when young people talk about the cost. Apple Mac Studio, Studio Monitor in configuration I was looking to purchase would've cost me $4,198.00 which is less than my original Macintosh purchased in 1984 at $2,500 when adjusted for inflation would be $6,764.87 on the introduction date of the Apple Studio lineup.
Your argument is that this display is good becuase its cheaper than a 40 year old computer?? Really
Bro its 400 dollars to grade it to have a adjustable height and tilt. Hows that make since?
For 1500 I would expect best spec available and some it it has:
-5k resolution
-speakers
- build quality
But on the other hand:
- mediocre 60hz
- no HDR
- relatively small
- std stand is bad, no vesa included, optional stand has no tilt despite costing quite a bit
- camera poor quality
- mediocre led backlight
All in all half baked product - they didn’t even try hard with this one. Sure on looks alone many people will buy. Comparing to iMac 27 it’s pricing is simply bad. Now you can buy used LG 5k for 600 so save money and get nearly identical spec. At least you have options of using mount or stand
The stand upgrade does have tilt and height adjustment fwiw
Camera should be great, but with a bad software on it.
Apple says it has no HDR. With 600 Nits, it plays CZcams HDR perfectly. Many monitors say they are HDR with 400 nits.
Sizes that are Retina, as Apple sees it:
4k 21"
4.5K 24"
5K 27"
6K 32"
Apple would not compromise in sharpness (or color accuracy).
And a 6K is far more expensive than the panel, Apple gets from LG without changing much.
I want to add biggest bezel I have seen in a modern monitor and not-so-thin panel to the list
@@ryancherry1017 not tilt only height - the studio display xdr stand only has tilt as well
By tilt I meant forward or back tilt which is present indeed but swivel left or right
@@tomboss9940 that’s why it’s weird they didn’t implement HDR like on MacBooks no clue what’s missing here? Does it play hdr videos similarly to MacBook Pro? Is hdr actually visibly hdr?
I kinda disagree with the criticism of this thing. As someone who has just gone through the shopping experience for an external monitor for my MacBook Air I can say that the Studio Display seems reasonably priced for what it is. To suggest that it's overpriced when a bare monitor with similar specs from LG costs $1,300 is silly.
The fact is that this thing is beautiful, has excellent mics, excellent speakers, and what should be an excellent webcam (apparently there's a software fix coming), and has excellent support. And unlike other aftermarket options, is guaranteed to work flawlessly with Apple CPUs. I think these advantages are well worth $300.
The only real downside is that it costs $1,600, when for lots of us that's just more than we want to spend on a monitor even if this one is worth what they're asking. So, for me it's a sub $500 LG 4k monitor with add on speakers and using the webcam and mics on the Air.
Bottom line is that if I was willing to spend $1,600 on a monitor the Studio is the one I'd buy.
The problem is that this monitor has no HDMI in so it can't be used for professional color correction by using a Blackmagic or AJA box. So as good as it might be it won't display proper rec 709 what a waste. Also for 3 thousand you can get the LG 27 inch that is truly an OLED and has all inputs. and is better
Blackmagic does make a box, so you can use the monitor as dedicated monitor in DaVinci Resolve.
on the not-removable powerplug = a normal plug would be too deep to integrate in the monitor which is only 2cm deep..
The only alternative would a magnetic connector as in the 24" iMac, but that needs a external powersupply , which has its own issues. All in all it was a logical and technical sound solution to use this fixed cable - that can be replaced if damaged.
All the critics of the fixed cable should think again.
even the price is 'ok' . it is not cheap, but the execution is Apple perfect - which we expect from Apple - metal case, very good speakers, decent webcam and micro, 5K resolution, glossy display with very good visual contrasts, 600 nits..
It is a replacement that had to be at least as good as the iMac5K displays.. On the pricing : if you take a high-end iMac5K and MacStudio Max with the same specs in disk and graphics, you are getting the same price... If you were using a cheaper iMac5K, you could pair the display with a MacMini M1 or even a nice Macbook M1. Perhaps Apple could make a MacStudio or MacMini Pro to fill the gap between the MacMini M1 and Studio Max
Dual 15 seconds ads?!!! Marques, how could you do that to me lol
I can't wait to get my Studio Display and with it knock off the current plastic LG (that cracks and pops when it cools down and keeps me from sleeping) off my desk, along with the external speakers and the dongle.The 'small little quirks' are what brought me to iPhone, then Mac, and now the Display.
Me too! I got an iPhone back in the day in order to resell it. Used it for a day and was hooked. It was such a smoother, more pleasing experience. I’d never had a feeling of delight with an Android phone like I experienced with the iPhone.
I have a buddy who is a lifelong PC-builder and Android user. He got a Mac randomly through a series of circumstances. He said, “I am really surprised by how much I like it.” Now he’s a Mac user.
Watching this on my lovely Studio Display. he mentioned the 3090 isn't a good deal. Not a gamer so had no idea how much it cost. Googled it. And it's the same price for a GRAPHICS CARD. I'd argue the Studio Display is a great deal by comparison. 5K: there is no substitute.
Anybody know the best way to use an existing 5k iMac as a Studio display?
Luna Display
New qd-oled monitor is also available in the market at that price.... That blow away any lcd or mini led monitor...... And you don't need 5k at 27 inch.... I prefer 1080 on 24 inches 2k on 27 inches and 4k is awesome combination with 32 inches..... And you mention speaker seriously dude someone is buying 1600$ monitor and they don't have bookshelf speaker or studio speakers or decent headphones..... Casing that's ok for me if someone like metal shell then that's ok personality i don't care... I am into high refresh rate, response time and color accuracy......
Realestate comparison is missing how beautiful the house is. Amazing how people undervalue design.
I'm looking forward to Mac Studio + Display 2.0 when Apple get's all the feedback and improves on what they have, or forgot to do, and or should have done. Same with the Macbook Pro.
But hey... M1 Ultra seems awesome, right?
I prefer to use Mac products, and a lot of what was presented with the Mac Studio and Studio Display seems like a step in the right direction. The trouble is it doesn't feel like Apple stuck the landing many of us were hoping for, but is still very much expected of Apple.
To those braving the waters of being early adopters, thank you for being the test subjects for this experiment and putting your money down for this. Hopefully your feedback will help improve the 2.0 models that will likely come in the next two to three years. Until then, I'm going to save up more money and hope my current Macbook Pro doesn't... well... I know my 2012 iMac is basically useless for anything besides browsing now.
Oh, and we should also get Right To Repair passed in the United States as a requirement for all tech companies like Apple.
have u mentioned the 200dalla VESA mount for this? I mount all my BenQ monitors on walls or arms, at little to no extra cost for a plate and screws. but I'm fine with HDR 4k 120k refresh rate monitors, at ¼ the cost.
Please review the Huawei MateView Monitor, it is a no brainer Studio Display killer
This is the fairest review I've seen of the ASD. For sure there are negatives, & I'm not going to defend the semi-captive power lead, or the overly short Thunderbolt cable, but for me the build quality, the resolution. & colour quality and absolutely the "it just works with Apple" in terms of scaling and power on are must haves. Those little niggles are soul destroying, & I have no time for them in my life. Yes I could get a bigger screen with a higher refresh rate for less. Yes I would appreciate that, but not at the expense of "it just works".
at least they should have had this model and an actual studio version. Possible OLED panel and 32 inch size. Both they can easily buy from LG.
Even if they make it a big upgrade price - wise... it would be so much better.
In regards to model names, it's like when someone asks me which TV I have. I just say Sony. Like why can't it just be Sony Bravia 2.
LG for sure (the non-economy models) and Sony Bravia are the one of few who have a long lasting repuation to be reliable and high quality original manufacturers these days, it seems...
I like how youtube recommends the Nike hyperadapt just because I watched this video.
The power cable not being removable is just ridiculous. I’m not sure how that decision got through management and Tim Cook.
It’ll make them more money … that’s how it got past Tim Crook!
I saw a theory on this that makes a lot of sense. The Studio Display is too thin to use a standard 3-prong power cable, so Apple ended up making a proprietary power cable. In order not to lose this unique cable, Apple made sure it wasn't easy to lose by making it non-removable. That seems likely since whenever I put hardware in storage, I remove the power cable and toss it in a drawer. Usually that doesn't matter since all the cables are interchangeable, but this one isn't. If it's unique and ends up separated from the monitor, it's quite likely you'll end up with a giant $1600 brick with a missing power cable.
@@techinrl9869 They could have used a shallow version of MagSafe like they used on their recent iMac. The MagSafe on the iMac is probably shallower than the non-removable connector they used here. Additionally, there is absolutely no way that a monitor draws more power than an actual, full-fledged computer like the iMac, which gives no excuse for this imo.
@@unstablefusion3 MagSafe only works for DC power with an external brick. The PSU was built into the monitor, so MagSafe couldn’t be used. For the same reason they couldn’t use MagSafe on the Mac Studio which also has its PSU inside. Why did they put it inside? Probably because they had the room, but I can’t say for sure.
@@techinrl9869 Sure, but the only problem here is that almost no other monitor that exists today has an unremovable power cable. Out of all companies, Apple would be the one to figure out a way around that.
Spread the additional 200-300 dollars into the number of days you’ll be using this beauty of a monitor… Then think about the number of starbucks lattes you didn’t really need to drink each and every day but you still do….
Bottom line. The Studio Display doesn’t quite know what it’s supposed to be. As a partner to the Mac Studio (and to justify the price), it should have at a bare minimum a 120 hertz refresh rate, and probably mini-LED too. At the other end of the spectrum, it would be super-nice with the Mac Mini, but it’s way too expensive for that.
And the Center Stage webcam is a miss on both - while you could make a case for it on a family iMac, the Mac Studio and MIni seem more likely to be used in office settings where users are less likely to walk around as they’re video conferencing. Image quality would seem more important here, but it seems subpar with the Center Stage setup. 😕
Maybe Apple will do better on the next versions. A 32” Studio Display with the above-mentioned improvements would pair nicely with the Mac Studio. Even at Apple prices.
i think the best way out is to wait for an upgrade of the current version.the ecosystem really work well for . May be if the price is like $1000 i will go for it.its not that bad looking at it.the design is really great.
The Studio Monitor should of been called Thunderbolt Display 3.
So y'all's thoughts on the Studio Display are "if you're an Apple fanboy, you might as well just buy it."
I just realized Sony names their phones like most companies name their monitors. 🤔🤣