actually based off of what the original writers wrote ghost riders stare works on anyone even the most innocent its strength depends on how many sins and how much pain they have under there belt. in punishers case its plot armor cause its not about regret, now this comic could be different I never read it
The Penance Stare has been shown to work on remorseless criminals repeatedly including who straight up enjoy what they can do and it cannot differentiate right from wrong and people think is right. This claim that it requires the Regret to be effective almost always comes from a popular instance of rhe Penance Stare failing against Punisher and was said to be a massive outlier and that should be ignored. It's likely that either the Punisher was squeaky clean and had not harmed any innocents because the writers messed it up and didn't do their own research.
It won’t work if you are blind, don’t have a soul to be punished, are a masochrist, or is just innocent. **Black heart**: was instead powered by the stare. **Venom**:Ghost rider was instead overwhelmed by venoms deeds. **Punisher**: in thunderbolts #29. **Carnage**: again, it didn’t work, carnage laughed at the stare, It doesn’t seem to work on aliens, which would explain thanos. **Conan**: again, a symbiote
Maybe the experience is awful, but it also educates Frank on the pain he inflicted on people he feels truly deserved death. It might oddly just be a powerful reinforcement of his character and choices to Punish thinking of the agony of the Stare and what he is doing to others.
@@pnut3844able Because some so called "PROGRESSIVE" current day Marvel Comics writers who support Gun Control & Identity Politics decided that Frank Castle was RACIST for killing BOTH Black & White gangsters.. & that he used GUNS to do it.. in the last Frank Castle Punisher series they made Castle the leader of the Hand ..who fought ONLY with swords..then at the end of the series they had his previously dead wife come back & not only DIVORCE him... she sold off ALL his hideouts & weapon supplies..& donated the money to charity.. Then after Castle dies ..he wakes up in the Weird World dimension & I forget the rest. Btw the reason that Marvel Comics gave for eliminating the character was that TOO MANY members of the military & law enforcement wore the Punisher skull symbol on their uniforms during the DEFUND THE POLICE era a few years ago.. I believe that they've launched a NEW "Punisher" character who is NOT Frank Castle.. but I doubt it's going to last.
@@pnut3844able well… he joined the hand (ninja clan daredevil fights), renounced his use of guns(used swords after this), became an avatar for the god the hand worships (gained powers from this), his wife was resurrected by the hand but she was horrified by what frank became and everything he has been doing since her death, and then finally he banished to an alternate dimension by other street level marvel heroes because he became too much of a problem, but he’s technically still out there. I really hate this story.
This is entirely false. Frank is not immune to the penance stare. The only time it didn't work is because Deadpool put an angel feather on him. He basically had divine protection. The penance stare does not work on the divine. We saw later the penance stare works on Frank. It also would not actually work on Galactus. That was strictly for the cartoon. While Galactus does feel sorry for the lives he must take he is a necessary cosmic force of nature. The penance stare also does work on ppl who regret nothing. We have seen it on panel. A serial killer who killed 45 ppl had no regrets whatsoever and couldn't wait to get out of prison so he could continue got penance stared and it did its usual effect. Remorse is not necessary for it to work
Penance stare just makes people relive their worst moments they regret, punisher doesn’t regret shit, courtroom scene in daredevil is the perfect example of how punisher feels about his actions
It seems to me that the Stare should *not* affect Galactus. He is literally a force of nature that the universe has as a way to tidy up; morals don't seem to be an issue for him, as he's just doing what he was created to do. Not sure that the concept of "guilt" has any real meaning for him. As for Punisher - While he might very well see what he does as a "necessary evil," evil done in the name of God is still evil; killing criminals instead of incapacitating them and hauling them in is still murder, no matter how vile they are. Feels like plot armor to me.
Maybe Frank doesn't have any guilt to begin with. Maybe he KNOWS that he doesn't hurt innocents directly. In the Corman movie with Dolph Lundgren, he spoke to God all the time trying to reason out his war on criminals. Maybe the Ghost Rider is limited to spiritual boundaries and his victims MUST be consciencless KILLERS or perps who DON'T have a grasp of care or belief. Frank being a Catholic, and a believer would understand that there's right and wrong. That gives him a conscience, and a conviction that taking out the bad-guys ACTUALLY saves INNOCENTS, which would limit Ghostriders penance stare. He's bound by laws of spituality, which The Punisher ISN'T, because he's working against spiritual EVIL, despite being a KILLER.
The old saying goes "When innocent blood is spilled" then the Ghost Rider gets summoned well u can bet your grandmas house the Punisher may spill blood but it aint no innocent blood the Punisher will not kill any innocent he actually protects them when need be
Under the premise given for it to work; The Penance Stare wouldn't work on millions of people.. A sociopath generally doesn't feel remorse for the people whom they hurt or kill, hence the stare wouldn't affect them one bit. So I would just call this plot armor..
The Penance Stare is Hell's timeout corner of pain Because the Ghost Rider isn't angry he's just disappointed and he wants you to know what you've done and it to hurt a lot. but under the Penance Stare the Ghost Rider forces you relive the pain and misery you inflicted on others throughout your entire life. no indiscretions no matter how minor is safe from the Ghost Rider's Gaze. But should your sins so numerous and terrible. The Penance Stare can obliterate your soul leaving you nothing more than a empty husk.
The penance stare only works on those that hurt innocents. Frank dosnt target innocent people.
Yes sir!
actually based off of what the original writers wrote ghost riders stare works on anyone even the most innocent its strength depends on how many sins and how much pain they have under there belt. in punishers case its plot armor cause its not about regret, now this comic could be different I never read it
Before he was the Punisher, he worked for the US government. They do!
You just saved .e 5 min cheers
The main fuel for the Penance Stare is the Fear and Guilt of the crimes they’ve committed. Frank had no guilt and zero fear.
feel like the penance stare is the absolute equalizer for truly bad guys
Actually, since Daredevil's blind, he would be immune to the Penance Stare too.
The Penance Stare has been shown to work on remorseless criminals repeatedly including who straight up enjoy what they can do and it cannot differentiate right from wrong and people think is right. This claim that it requires the Regret to be effective almost always comes from a popular instance of rhe Penance Stare failing against Punisher and was said to be a massive outlier and that should be ignored. It's likely that either the Punisher was squeaky clean and had not harmed any innocents because the writers messed it up and didn't do their own research.
It won’t work if you are blind, don’t have a soul to be punished, are a masochrist, or is just innocent.
**Black heart**: was instead powered by the stare.
**Venom**:Ghost rider was instead overwhelmed by venoms deeds.
**Punisher**: in thunderbolts #29.
**Carnage**: again, it didn’t work, carnage laughed at the stare, It doesn’t seem to work on aliens, which would explain thanos.
**Conan**: again, a symbiote
Maybe the experience is awful, but it also educates Frank on the pain he inflicted on people he feels truly deserved death. It might oddly just be a powerful reinforcement of his character and choices to Punish thinking of the agony of the Stare and what he is doing to others.
Excellent explanation
It SUCKS that Marvel Comics has basically DELETED the Frank Castle Punisher as we know him!
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I haven't collected in 10ish years, except some trades. What did they do?
@@pnut3844able Because some so called "PROGRESSIVE" current day Marvel Comics writers who support Gun Control & Identity Politics decided that Frank Castle was RACIST for killing BOTH Black & White gangsters.. & that he used GUNS to do it..
in the last Frank Castle Punisher series they made Castle the leader of the Hand ..who fought ONLY with swords..then at the end of the series they had his previously dead wife come back & not only DIVORCE him... she sold off ALL his hideouts & weapon supplies..& donated the money to charity..
Then after Castle dies ..he wakes up in the Weird World dimension & I forget the rest.
Btw the reason that Marvel Comics gave for eliminating the character was that TOO MANY members of the military & law enforcement wore the Punisher skull symbol on their uniforms during the DEFUND THE POLICE era a few years ago..
I believe that they've launched a NEW "Punisher" character who is NOT Frank Castle.. but I doubt it's going to last.
@@pnut3844ableyou really don’t want to know, not if you loved the character.
@@cbrock5529 i mean he's decent. Nothing special to me
@@pnut3844able well… he joined the hand (ninja clan daredevil fights), renounced his use of guns(used swords after this), became an avatar for the god the hand worships (gained powers from this), his wife was resurrected by the hand but she was horrified by what frank became and everything he has been doing since her death, and then finally he banished to an alternate dimension by other street level marvel heroes because he became too much of a problem, but he’s technically still out there.
I really hate this story.
Because vengeance belongs to The Lord God Almighty and therefore the punisher is technically an Angel of The Lord
Frank Castle The Punisher doesn't Target innocent people
This is entirely false. Frank is not immune to the penance stare. The only time it didn't work is because Deadpool put an angel feather on him. He basically had divine protection. The penance stare does not work on the divine. We saw later the penance stare works on Frank.
It also would not actually work on Galactus. That was strictly for the cartoon. While Galactus does feel sorry for the lives he must take he is a necessary cosmic force of nature.
The penance stare also does work on ppl who regret nothing. We have seen it on panel. A serial killer who killed 45 ppl had no regrets whatsoever and couldn't wait to get out of prison so he could continue got penance stared and it did its usual effect. Remorse is not necessary for it to work
Thanos being one since he asks for breakfast lol
@jacobharris954 it does work on him it's just he enjoys seeing all the pain and suffering he's caused over the years
I heard your last point about Frank Castle. Not sure if it's correct since my knowledge when it comes to the comics is limited.
The odd thing is, how did Frank not die? It still hurt him like hell, yeah, but it's impressive that he didn't burn to a crisp.
@FrancisCastiglione the rider whomever it is at the time controls the intensity
Penance stare just makes people relive their worst moments they regret, punisher doesn’t regret shit, courtroom scene in daredevil is the perfect example of how punisher feels about his actions
You forgot that the Penace Stare doesn't work on Deadpool either.
Frank is righteous in his mission.
The penance stare is just like the truth in full metal Alchemist
It seems to me that the Stare should *not* affect Galactus. He is literally a force of nature that the universe has as a way to tidy up; morals don't seem to be an issue for him, as he's just doing what he was created to do. Not sure that the concept of "guilt" has any real meaning for him.
As for Punisher - While he might very well see what he does as a "necessary evil," evil done in the name of God is still evil; killing criminals instead of incapacitating them and hauling them in is still murder, no matter how vile they are. Feels like plot armor to me.
How would Spawn react to the penance stare?
id love to see a universal crossover of Dexter vs the Ghost Rider.
Dexter the serial killer??
yes, I don't think he would be affected by it because he doesn't feel any remorse, but it would be cool to see.@@fortesports6096
Is it cuz he is doing lord work lol and he hurt his family gone lol bro lol 3:58 😊
What 😂
@@ANTI-LGBTQG I win 🥇
Maybe Frank doesn't have any guilt to begin with. Maybe he KNOWS that he doesn't hurt innocents directly. In the Corman movie with Dolph Lundgren, he spoke to God all the time trying to reason out his war on criminals. Maybe the Ghost Rider is limited to spiritual boundaries and his victims MUST be consciencless KILLERS or perps who DON'T have a grasp of care or belief. Frank being a Catholic, and a believer would understand that there's right and wrong. That gives him a conscience, and a conviction that taking out the bad-guys ACTUALLY saves INNOCENTS, which would limit Ghostriders penance stare. He's bound by laws of spituality, which The Punisher ISN'T, because he's working against spiritual EVIL, despite being a KILLER.
I also think that the Ghost Rider powers only work on people that feel guilty but hide it. Doesn’t really punish them for their sins.
The old saying goes "When innocent blood is spilled" then the Ghost Rider gets summoned well u can bet your grandmas house the Punisher may spill blood but it aint no innocent blood the Punisher will not kill any innocent he actually protects them when need be
Great video
It didn’t work on World War Hulk even as he leveled NYC. NOT because Hulk is powerful but because Hulk was right.
Frank castle is a bad man as simple as that
Short answer: He's not.
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Because he is out of fucks to give..
He's the herald of death
he isn't, it worked on him in a later story and the penance stare doesn't even work like that. Short answer, plot armor.
*You should do a Punisher Verzuz series.*
I do.. Check out the Wolverine video and the Deadpool video..I also have more coming up
Under the premise given for it to work; The Penance Stare wouldn't work on millions of people.. A sociopath generally doesn't feel remorse for the people whom they hurt or kill, hence the stare wouldn't affect them one bit. So I would just call this plot armor..
For the penance stare to work. U have to have guilt and have harmed an innocent. Ad have a soul.
When did GhostRider and Conan meet ?
He feels no guilt.
I got a better question: Why doesn't the penance stare ever work?
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Plot armor
The Penance Stare is Hell's timeout corner of pain Because the Ghost Rider isn't angry he's just disappointed and he wants you to know what you've done and it to hurt a lot. but under the Penance Stare the Ghost Rider forces you relive the pain and misery you inflicted on others throughout your entire life. no indiscretions no matter how minor is safe from the Ghost Rider's Gaze. But should your sins so numerous and terrible. The Penance Stare can obliterate your soul leaving you nothing more than a empty husk.