Ultra Bright Field Monitor - Review of the OSEE LCM215-HDR+ 21.5 inch
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Today we are going to review a 21.5 inch production monitor that sports a whooping 1.500nits brightness…
This extraordinary brightness comes in very handy in demanding environments, like brightly light studios, and of course, when shooting in direct sunlight. The OSEE LCM215-HDR+ 21.5 inch monitor can serve as production, field, and broadcast monitor.
We will see how good we can put the nits to work with a test on a blindingly bright high speed shooting as well as in direkt sunlight.
Of course we will look at the features, connectors, power consumption, transportation options, and usability.
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00:00 - Intro
01:29 - What we where looking for
02:39 - Why you need a field monitor
05:01 - Features of the OSEE 21.5 field monitor
07:58 - Testing 1500nits brightness
11:52 - Power options & run time test
15:14 - Transportation
16:27 - Verdict
#ultrabright #fieldmonitor #osee - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Ah, my favorite voice on the internet again :)). Lets listen to the paint dry :D.
……… and there it is………… can you see it dry… ? If you just sit back and relax you can hear the slow… comforting crackle of drying paint…………………
Thanks man
Somehow Nikolas and the team can even make a monitor review incredibly compelling!
Thanks a lot Bertram… we would never dare to release something that we don't think is interesting and at least somewhat entertaining to you guys
Ok I have only watched the first few seconds but you had me at hello. The flaming finger and hair in all seriousness has to be the best intro for any CZcams video ever. This should be used as an exemplar for pure comic timing and if there are filmmakers out there wondering why that’s important then as an editor I can assure you that it’s a fundamental to making great films and if you can cut a scene that makes someone laugh then you can probably cut anything. Pure genius again from this channel and what’s astonishing is the content here is always of that incredible standard. Thx so much to all at media division.
Thanks Ken… not even trying hard… and that might be the magic sauce.
Excellent as always! Always looking forward to a new video!
Cheers man… just doing some reviews to bridge the time to the next epic episode.
I always love your videos. Popcorn worthy!
Just a little review… working on the really popcorn worthy stuff ;-)
amazing and thorough review! Keep it up!
Amazing work! Very insightful
Glad you think so! Appreciated H S
Excellent video once again, very funny opening scene! Jean-Michel
Cheers mate… appreciated
Such a detailed review 👏🏼😎
Thanks
WOW! You look 15 years younger without a beard!
Super… I always wanted to look like 60!!!!!!
Keep these reviews up.
Only now and then when we come across something cool… the numbers are not good for us
Excellent monitor!
For all the media division team it’s something I wanted to say along time your content is amazing love your work and the way you bring things on the CZcams table 😍🥰
I sent a mail to the team at OSÉE to see if the ship to EU would love to buy one!
But maybe you will gave me the answer if I’m not wrong your base in EU as well..?
Any way Tnx again for all the awesome work you guys put out there!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️
Thanks a lot man… appreciated! Yes, we are in Germany. As far as I know, they are "working on" distribution in the EU but haven't solved it yet. If you want it right now, you would have to import it yourself with the attached cost. We do that all the time - it is easy if you have an EORI. DHL, UPS and the likes have a service doing the process for you , too.
@@MediaDivision really appreciate your fast and honest reply 🙏🏻🙏🏻
And it’s cool we are somehow neighbor 😂 I just didn’t understand what did you mean by EORI?
Love IT
Thanks Philip
Thanks!
Thanks a lot James.... very much appreciated. the division salutes you!!
Excellent review.. I'm about to pick one up after watching this. Two quick questions. Do you have a link to the soft carrying bag you found? Also, are there other cheese plate options you've found? $80 for their small cheese plate seems a little steep, when you can get something similar at SmallRig for around $8. Thanks so much!
Thank you… Here is the link: www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/product/B097D2WLYQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
it is from the german amazon store, but I am sure you get the same or similar product wherever you are. USE the coupon code MEDIADIVISION for $20 off and be aware that you have to pay import tax and duties if you order from China (USA warehouse option is available)
bit.ly/osee_ultrabright
@@MediaDivision thanks so much!
I would love a monitor like this in the 15" realm. And a mountain backpack to carry all this in. lol
Osee has smaller field monitors... the Megamon 15.4" 10bit Field Monitor with 800 nits seems like a viable option for a larger backpack
A fantastic looking production monitor! Definitely on my future buy list, though I’ll probably pair it with a BlackMagic 12g SDI HDMI Bi-Directional Cross-Converter to act as a calibration LUT box if it doesn’t accept calibration LUTs separate from camera LUTs.
Cheers man… I don't know if you can have a separate calibration LUT running. I don't thing that a field monitor needs that kind of color precision, but sure, go for it. For the price it is certainly interesting.
@@MediaDivision honestly I’ve had too many directors and clients question colour so if it’s skewed even like a lot of Atomos products can be, I usually find a need to correct it to save hassle on set.
@@MediaDivision seriously fabulous review though! And thanks for turning this community to it! I’ve already sent the video out to a number of fellow DP owner/ops who wouldn’t have seen it otherwise.
I get it… but unless you have controlled viewing conditions, calibration makes only so much sense. I have been on big productions and I never seen one using calibrated monitors in that context.
Thanks a lot man… you make it possible. The division salutes you for support. We actually just did this so we can use it for our next epic episode… we already sank so much money into that, that we need to get sponsored gear
I'm not a pro, and I'm still impressed considering the price.
But you didn't mention color ranges and accuracy. Not that it matter too much outdoors, but if I use it indoor, in some cases, might be important.
As colors come up a lot, I will make a standard answer to this:
It’s a production/field monitor. It is designed to offer good viewability in difficult situations.
It is not designed to be a color reference display (as Atomos and SmallHD field monitors aren't either). Calibration only works if you are in controlled lighting situations as your eyes rebalance all the time… like you well know I suppose. Could you calibrate it? As it supports LUTs, you can use your preferred calibration tool to generate a correction LUT. Could you use it as a grading monitor? Sure. Would I use it as a grading monitor. Probably not. I rather use something that I expect my audience to view my content on... an Ultra HD Premium TV. Can't say much about color space coverage etc. other than what you'll find on the product website.
@@MediaDivision awesome
Great review! I've read on B&H that a buyer complained of a high-pitched fan noise. Was that your case? Is it particularly loud?
thanks... no, not at all. I never noticed any fan noise. My Shogun inferno or the OSEE G7 3000nits are much much much louder
@@MediaDivision Glad to read that! That settles it, then! As soon as it's available, I'm getting our studio one! Thank you!
Another wonderful video! SmallHD is overpriced and re-branded monitors from the same sources in China most likely. This review convinced me to buy the OSEE T7 for my mirrorless!
Thanks man... well, there are surely components that are used by both companies, but I don't know. I hope you will enjoy your t/, I have yet to try one.
Would an iPad Pro work as a large monitor?
I'm sure you can get a thunderbolt to HDMI adaptor and it fits most of the specs
If you work professionally... hell no. Like with the Amazon monitor we briefly talk about. Hard to rig, hard to get an image on, hard to power, ... don't torture yourself
Which doctor am I to see again :D, jokes aside thanks for the review. How color accurate is the display? Would love if it was 4K instead of full HD as You said and everything else too, also would like it to have 2 mounts for V-lock batteries so that I can switch batteries without powering off the monitor. I agree that the price is very tempting
Sorry… missed this one… well, theoretically you could feed the monitor with some dual V-lock Batterie plate. But, powering up in n time, I don't think it is relevant for our kind of productions… in the studio I use line power and on location I use a 750Wh power bank for an eternity of runtime
No mention about monitor colour accuracy and calibration options...??
Well, you can simply upload a LUT with a the calibration tool of your choice. This is a field and production monitor… not a broadcast monitor, so, I wouldn't use it for grading like I wouldn't use my on cam monitor for that. But it is surely possible.
Great review, as always. Kudos to @Media Division for creating the most amazing content across all YT videos.
A couple of questions:
What is the brand/model of the TV/monitor in the background (showing an image of a flare)?
How can I support Media Division besides the products afíliate links?
Thank you!
Thanks Diego.... very much appreciated!
It is an old, cheap curved Samsung Premium UHD TV. I use it as it is HDR and relatively small.... also, the curvature makes sense at this distance. It has been long discontinued and there are better offers out now.
The best way to support us is becoming a member of the channel... and you get all the perks coming with your tier. Action packs, exclusive videos, and even consultation.
@@MediaDivision thanks for the tips.
I’ve become a member of the channel. Such a small fee for supporting your incredibly inspiring work… plus all the extra goodies 😊
Thanks you so much Diego... the Division salutes you! We are very grateful for your support.
I've been desperate to find any info on the Anamorphic functionality of this monitor. The website is a little light on these details. Could you please let me know if it only has anamorphic presets or if it also has a custom user setting to dial the right squeeze factor in? I have 1.6x anamorphic lenses and this would be amazing on set if I could de-squeeze for video village. Thank you for doing such an in-depth review.
I don't blame you… it is super hard to find. It is almost absent in the documentation and not even in the menus UNLESS you assign a user button to desqueezes.
It has the following desqueeze options:
1.33x
1.5x
1.66x
1.8x
2x
2x MAG
0.75x
@@MediaDivision Thank you!!! I think I'll use your affiliate link and pick one up. I can frame with the 1.66x. Perhaps if everyone pesters OSEE enough they'll add a custom function to dial in the right squeeze factor.🤞
Cool… thanks for considering that. I don’t think .6x makes a meaningful difference here.
@@MediaDivision I agree. Just bought it. cheers and happy shooting.
I am TERRIFIED... of getting Lasik eye surgery. How did you do it? How was it? Did you have the courage? How long did it take? Oh man... I want to do it soooo bad... but so afraid.
It is not something I put in the “pleasant” category for sure… it is painful, it is a bit scary (during procedure), and the first night after is terrible. Everything, even a alarm clock is painfully bright. But, all in all it is not worse than a root canal if you had the pleasure of one of those. Takes a hour… Next day, you can see normally. If you need strong glasses before, it is a new world. With a bit of helo around light sources that dissapeared after 6 month. I would do it again.
No nativ 4K resolution ! I use the 12 inch Lilliput 4K field monitor. Need the high resolution! Works very good for me, using sun shader
That is one of the “other” brands I mentioned we have in the studio. It’s ok with a hood, but this makes it so much easier to see it from all over the room. 4k really doesn’t make a difference in this context. You had to be under a meter close to differentiate pixels and even then you can clearly judge focus and details in “just” 1080
Hi Nikolas - I'm curious, did you get your monitor shipped from the US or China? I can't see an European distributor for OSEE. Also, did you have to pay any tax for importing it?
From China… I do that all the time and I do have an EORI that simplifies import. Yes… you have to pay something like 20% tax and duties depending on the good. OSEE is working on EU distribution… probably simply Amazon
@@MediaDivision Good to know - still looks like a great option!
Yeah… I am quite happy with it. Of course it doesn't have the pristine image of the SmallHD cine series, but that is out of the question price wise
Totally different Q: Would it be possible to make a DIY NEX-PL mount adapter?
……… well, everything is "possible" if you have the know how and the tools, but why would you, if dozens of solutions are on the market, that are all guaranteed to be better and cheaper than what you can DIY. If money is the problem… PL is not a good realm to strive for.
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1194555-REG/metabones_mb_pl_e_bt1_pl_to_e_mount_adapter.html
@@MediaDivision Thanks for your reply, you're damn right and I totally agree with that!
But I meant from nex > PL, so mounting an E-mount lens on an Arri camera.. Would that be possible despite of the significant building difference?
Reason of the question: I have many cool vintage lenses build or adapted to nex, so it would be a lot easier to get one PL adapter instead of several for the different lenses.
Good review, but I was hoping you would have discussed the color quality and accuracy.
It’s a field monitor… color accuracy is pretty unimportant giving changing light environments. I wouldn’t use it for color critical work aka “reference” monitor. I heard there is a firmware update that lets you calibrate and apply a generat viewing LUT. I think it was on CineD… look there.
Thanks for the reply but I respectfully disagree. My DIT’s & I absolutely reference the color with our monitors on set to build LUTs etc - but of course we usually have a tented environment
How’s the color? Even remotely usable as a grading monitor considering the LUT support?
As colors come up a lot, I will make a standard answer to this:
It’s a production/field monitor. It is designed to offer good viewability in difficult situations.
It is not designed to be a color reference display (as Atomos and SmallHD field monitors aren't either). Calibration only works if you are in controlled lighting situations as your eyes rebalance all the time… like you well know I suppose. Could you calibrate it? As it supports LUTs, you can use your preferred calibration tool to generate a correction LUT. Could you use it as a grading monitor? Sure. Would I use it as a grading monitor. Probably not. I rather use something that I expect my audience to view my content on... an Ultra HD Premium TV. Can't say much about color space coverage etc. other than what you'll find on the product website.
@@MediaDivision so what ultra hd premium tv would you consider?
Perfect!... How can I mount this to my Sony a6400? 😏😉
It’s really no problem to mount it on the camera… if you can still hold it
@@MediaDivision Well my eyes arent what they used to be and my doctor told me I should do some weight training... a veritable peloton of photography 😅
great vid.. why is everyone so angry on reddit tho 😂
Thanks. Normal... Reddit is Troll county. 86% upvote quote is good enough for me. The Trolls are just the loudest
Have you had any scaling issues with this monitor? I've noticed when running a camera through the HDMI input that it crops the outer pixels in the frame around 5% or so. So the image appears more "zoomed in" that it actually is. Ever run into this?
No…… SDI or HDMI, 1080 or 4K… everything looks like it should
My best guess is that you have overscan on, or the problem is on the cameras side (which would be easy to see if you use another camera for testing)
Thank you for the feedback. I couldn’t find any mention of an overscan setting in the manual. It happens when I go direct with camera and also if I use the ATEM switcher’s hdmi output.
How many nits a monitor must have to produce a white image comparable with a withe paper on midday sun? Just a hypothetical question ...
I don't know?! That really depends on how bright that day is, if it is direct light, if your paper is glossy or not……………………………………
Link/Name for the 21" Soft Carry Case?
www.amazon.de/gp/product/B097D2WLYQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've a question. which TV or monitor do you use at home to watch films?
A 65" Samsung LCD.... nothing fancy. I have little kids finger prints all over it
@@MediaDivision there's a saying in my country "casa de ferreiro, espeto de pau"
Okay, any hints on where to buy one in Germany?
They are working on it, but for now you have to order from china directly
@@MediaDivision Alright, thanks. Fingers crossed for Europe/German distro soon.
I have the much older 15" version and want to replace it with a much brighter monitor. This 21.5" version looks impressive, but I'm disappointed Osee is still using those difficult to operate membrane control buttons, and that they haven't improved the wonky monitor stand mount (they wobble!). I agree the interface is a bit awkward to use, but the important features are there... once you find where they are.
I am planing to get this 21 inches model, I already have atomos sumo 19 inches, just wanted something economical and rugged thing, do you recommend this?
@HumzaYousafFilms it is not a perfect product and colors are not great but for the price it is good. I use it all the time… I recommend it for what it is. Not more, not less.
@@MediaDivision thank you, yes Im a Colorist and a DP, so I know it's not close to accuracy, but I want something rugged than my atomos sumo, which is very fragile
This is not a tank and it is not water resistent… but I had it in the woods etc without any problem. It helps that it doesn't have any glossy surfaces. It is not built to be pretty but practical@@HumzaYousafFilms
@@MediaDivision I have read few reviews where, putting it on AC Adapter while running it on V mount, can make a fuse/spark etc
Are you sure it’s not a led panel ?
Whats the color accuracy is like? Is it 8 or 10 bit?
I honestly don't know. For a field monitor it is of litte relevance
👌
Cheers
I was wondering if you could do a video on soviet lenses, that would be an amazing video! I realy need a long video to watch🙃
🤗
Cheers!
If you test the Korean brand Tvlogic 18.5 inches, the color is the most accurate.
Most brands lose color when they become brighter.
There are no plans for that. For a field monitor color accuracy is of little consequence, as that requires stable lighting conditions for the observer.
@@MediaDivision I think that's the most amateurish idea
This isn't the film age
It's an era where you look at digital monitors, decide on colors, think, and produce results.
I looked at the monitor and filmed it, and I was like, "Why is this color in the picture?" Why is it different?" There are too many cases like this.
Therefore, the requirements for field monitors have become difficult and accurate.
I really like this brand's monitor. Trust me, I'm not kidding.
Everyone uses this monitor in many Korean movie commercial music videos.
@@FILMSTBY look at your films... than look at my films.... now tell me again who is an amateur.
@@MediaDivision You're good at testing CZcams
I want you to test the TV Logic monitor because you make a good video
Isn't it not humble to just watch CZcams and say that you're an amateur?
I just don't want to do my best on CZcams like you.
I'd like a cellphone with that display. Is there a smartphone on the market that comes close?
I don't think so... battery draw to high an. why!?!? You live in a lighthouse?
@@MediaDivision No, not the whole 1000 Nit, that's a bit excessive. Matte screen and modular back, similar to that old LG phone that came with a Hasselblad branded camera.
@@MediaDivision They have the T5 on there site, designed like a smartphone. That.
Oh no what happened to that fabulous intro
It didn’t feel right to the individual one… redundant
@@MediaDivision ohhh okay I thought it was the beginning of it disappearing forever, which i'd be quite sad since it has a magic to it like educational shows I use to watch when I was a kid.
I really like all your videos. But this intro is HOT ;-)
Thanks man… this might be the least appreciated video of ours
it's been out of stock for so long now
China warehouse has some (link under video) if you dare to import yourself... I do it all the time. In the EU it is quite straight forward
I think the naming scheme is inspired by Sony.
Is that important?
@@MediaDivision Of course not, until you wanna suggest it to someone with that dodgy name.
Just call it the ultraclubberlightnovamaster2000 ;-)
@@MediaDivision 🤣Roger that
You could use it for UV 🤣
I am tanned enough
@@MediaDivision 🤣
Why not using a VR as a monitor
Manufacturer should develop the idea
A VR? You mean googles?
@@MediaDivision I mean like those headset we use for drones, but adapted for monitoring cameras, or a viewfinder mounted on one eye in our head. That's be awesome
@@MediaDivision yeah, googles!
You can do that right now… most of these headsets have HDMI inputs. But I don't think it is a good idea… you need to see the camera and your surroundings. Try an EVF
@@MediaDivision yes I mean, we have to adapt those headsets to be just with an eye, the other eye is to see the environment
They say HDR but in the specs its not an hdr monitor also I don't see anything about calibration.
It is perfect to judge HDR signals in the field. As it supports LUTs you can create your own calibration LUTs, although, calibration only really makes sense in stable light conditions... aka NOT the field. If you are looking for a grading monitor... this is not it. If the specs don't fit your needs.... get something that suits your needs and wallet . Good luck
$$1,219.00 that's actually not prohibitive expensive...
Thats what I think.
Considering the OSEE 7 inch monitor has caused many of us trouble and alot of lost revenue Id say this is a TERRIBLE value. It took a tremendous amount of effort but I did end up getting my money back from China. 😲
Sorry you had bad experiences. To be fair, I had problems with about any product from any manufacturer with very mixed results. Haven't had one with Osee so far, so I can't say. Other Chinese brands have been quite generous.
If you test the Korean brand Tvlogic 18.5 inches, the color is the most accurate.
Most brands lose color when they become brighter.
What slider you used on 9:29?
It's a Rhino Pro 42" with a Manfrotto 602 head
Fantastic review, honest and cutting through the online bullshit. Zweckorientiert. 👏 I am tempted, as it could work really well for lighting, too. Especially in combination with the custom false colour.
Thanks a lot philip! Glad you see it this way. It is definitely not bright enough to light something other than miniatures. The nuclear blast intro is of course a VFX
@@MediaDivision Haha!! Of course, I meant for setting up lighting and checking exposure, it just works better on a bigger monitor, because you tend to be quite far away from any monitor when pushing fixtures and handling light stands, but that was the answer I actually expected from you guys! 😄👍
Exactly… you can move freely and judge all that even outside