The lenses to rule anamorphic filmmaking? Test and comparison of the DZOfilm PAVO lenses
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
- We are diving once more deep into the realm of anamorphic shooting, with DZO new 2x anamorphic lenses… the PAVO. Full blown anamorphic cine lenses that try to win the hearts of the community by offering a classic anamorphic look while still being light and small enough to fit smaller production needs… without sacrificing image quality?! All that at a competitive price?!
Let’s see if DZOfilm built the one lens to rule them all … we put the PAVO anamorphic lenses to the test. We brought a PAVO set in the studio, and made a shootout against an Atlas Orion. Our test footage has been shot on Alexa, a MAVO, and a Lumix S5IIx. We also included some experiments with anamorphic auto focus using a DJI LiDAR system. After all that we bring the PAVO on location to tell you, how they work in a tough production environment.
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00:00 - In this episode
01:18 - Why Anamorphic?
02:31 - Overview of the PAVO
05:20 - Under the hood
11:45 - Test - In the Studio
16:21 - Test - 28mm
18:46 - Test - 40mm
20:38 - Test - 75mm
23:25 - Test - PAVO vs Atlas Orion
25:51 - Test - On Location
28:02 - Shooting experience
31:24 - The verdict
37:55 - Thank you - Krátké a kreslené filmy
There’s only a few channels I wait to watch on a large screen and no interruptions . Thank you for all your efforts!!
Happy to hear that… we put a lot of work into quality aspects that are only appreciable on a big screen… this is for you! Enjoy. Thanks for hanging and your kindness
I'm not even on the market for an anamorphic lens... but I never miss a new Video from you guys! Amazing content!
Thanks a lot for your kindness and for being around… sometimes you just want to sniff around something else. Enjoy
Congratulations again, on yet another fantastic video. The work you and your team put in is, very impressive.
Thanks a lot man… appreciated! I let the boys know ;-)
Crazy to think I've been watching your videos for so many years! This is still the best content on CZcams.
Very glad you think so Mitchell… working hard to keep it that way ;-)
Indeed, absolutely no doubt about that.
Let's see how long we can fight AI@@rolandrickphotography
For years, and still, no one comes even close in terms of quality. Legendary.
Dude, another absolute masterpiece of a video. I recently got my first anamorphic lens which I intend to use for photography, and I learned so much from both this and the scope series. Well done to everyone involved, and of course it's so fun seeing you be a little goofy at times. Laughed out loud when the slide of the pistol sprung off!! 😂
What do you use for photographic anamorphic, and have you been satisfied?
Thanks a lot Corbin.... glad you find our work useful and entertaining. The pistol dismantlement wasn't even planned... it just happened! You got a projector lens for your photos?? Which one?
What are you shooting, what lens did you use, how is it? I consider one for eventwork but cant decide and or dont want to pay premium for FF(that is big and slof too)
The best quality channel on the platform. And thanks for the tip about getting the echo off my DJI mic on your last video in the comments. Worked like a charm.
Thanks man..... glad I was able to help out Senthil
Wow, image quality of these lenses is impressive considering the size and the weight. Thank You, great video btw!🔥
I think so, too! Thanks man… appreciated! And thank you for your support… you make it possible!!
The most underrated channel on CZcams. ❤
Quick… tell CZcams ;-) Thanks man
As usual, the video in itself is a movie. Congratulations !
That is a very nice compliment… we always hope it looks that way. Thanks man!!!
@@MediaDivision forgot to mention about the voice again :)). Perfect even for describing how the paint dries.
Fantastic, comprehensive, complete and objective video on these lenses. Loved every second of it and now feel like I know almost everything I needed to know about these lenses. Well done, as always.
Very happy you found it useful man... appreciate your kindness! Thank you!
Thanks for this Nicolas! This is why I’m happy to be a Kubrick tier supporter. Amazing work, as always, and all questions addressed…and more. These things are gorgeous! *buys several lottery tickets*
Thank you so much for your support Douglas!!! Really appreciate your kindness and being a Kubrick member. we could not do this without you... this is for you! The division salutes you. Very happy that you found this test useful ... and very unhappy that you need to by lottery tickets... life is cruel :-(
YES!!! Another fantastic episode. Makes me want to shoot more anamorphic projects.
Glad you enjoy Robert.... thanks for being around!
From an infotainment standpoint, hands down, you're the best!
Thanks man… appreciated. From wich standpoint do we need to improve?
Fantastic work as usual guys 👏🏽 I got to try these lenses and was obsessed but didn’t get enough time with them so was left with a lot of questions haha
Thanks a lot man… absolutely do - I love these little buggers. I once asked you on your channel where you buy your hats… you still owe me an answer ;-)
@@MediaDivision omg I didn’t see that comment 😭 haha if it’s a cowboy hat, it’s usually a Stetson! If it’s a flat brim, it’s usually an old cowboy hat that I cut and reshaped!
Ah… I thought its a white straw cowboy hat (or what ignorant Europeans call cowboy hats). I used to wear one like that on hot location productions, but it is just messed up now. Looking for a fine new one @@cammackey
@@MediaDivision ohhhh that one I wear is a special one. I was in Fort Worth Texas for a job and had some time to kill. Went into one of the cowboy hat shops and it was a one off custom for $200 that fit like a glove. The trick to the straw hats is to spend some good money on them cause the cheap ones fall apart and get crushed easily (my dog use to always sit on them)
thanks for the input… next time I'm in Texas I will surely do something like that, too. I was in Dallas two month ago… but only for a couple hours… another time I have more time I hope@@cammackey
This is the best channel for filmmakers on youtube, simply I love it
Thanks Usama.... appreciated. I wish CZcams would see it the same way
Never the less, such a wonderful insight of the anamorphic series update! I also did crossed my mind in trying out the PAVOs when it was announced, but really lacked information and tests reels around. Definitely a good series of lens for production houses and art houses to get into their inventory. Very very very torn apart between this and the Atlas Mercuries, but thats basically comparing apples to oranges.
Needless to say, the production quality of this is getting better and better, definitely noteworthy for general distribution! Keep up the great work Nikolas! And have a great New Year too!
Happy New Year Vince.... thanks a lot, always trying. I haven't used the Mercury but like you say... hardly comparable
With your excellent series on anamorphic lenses and anamorphic cinematography, you have firmly established your place at the very top of the best cinematic content creators on CZcams. This video is no exception with regard to content and quality. 👌🏼
Thanks a lot… I am happy that you think it elevated us to that level. Always trying to create something worth you time!
Hands down ONE of, if not the BEST channel on youtube for this content. Wish I would have found you waay sooner!!! Appreciate your work!!
Glad you think so… wish you Tube would see it the same. Thanks for being around
MD, my favorite camera-related channel. Can't wait for more content but such quality takes time, money, and extensive work.
Thanks so much… indeed, a lot of work &money and we have to feed kids too… and you can't really make good income with these. Catch 22
@@MediaDivision It is much appreciated. I personally started making documentaries and so far nothing but money drain, but very happy and will continue because it's my passion. Made one last summer and views weren't much but the feedback was pretty much worth it. It was about the local biting midges.
I'm not interested in these lenses per se, but more about the production quality I'm enjoying. It's literally the peak of production excellence.
Keep up the great work just be mindful not to compromised your livelihood, we need you around.
I had tested these lens and I also love the image from PAVO.
Thanks for your input... yeah, really lovely
great content, showing how long form can work a treat when the production values are as amazing as this.
Thanks a lot Dylan… I always hope that there is a future for long form… and I work to make that future happen. Thank you so much for supporting us on that journey.
I love Anamorphic so much and really appreciate the video. To me these Pavo's are way too soft for me. Anamorphic isn't about sharpness, but man these turn detail into butter. Been wanting to see more examples of these and I think even though their larger and heavier, the Laowa Proteus are the better choice. Although I'd love to test both sets together myself before being too sure.
Like I said... there is no right or wrong. Image quality with anamorphic is highly subjective. I think that anamorphic lenses should break up the details. having seen PAVO and ORION side by side, I don't see the Proteus being that much better in that regard, but, I have not tried in the same context.
My partner just walked behind me and asked "what movie are you watching?" 😄 so well done!
Thats cool..... or your partner needs glasses 😅Thanks a lot Jonah
Very interesting and excellent review. The subtle flaring is very nice indeed. Good to see a new video from you guys, thanks.
Our pleasure Jason… thanks for watching!
This video is absolutely amazing and the lenses look beautiful. As always, awesome job.
Thank you Mr. Nimoy ;-)
Finaly next video! Great work guys!
Always.... thanks
Great video as always! Really in depth overview of these great lenses. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks a lot man... really appreciate you around here. Glad you enjoy
Great analysis and really useful to compare with the Orions. To my mind it looks like the Pavos are lighter, have more subtle flares and are marginally better for filming wide open and close-up, but I would prefer the Orions for night-time shots with out-of-focus lights in the background, because I don't like that messy boke. Great to have this info on these lenses.
Thanks man… glad you find this useful!
That was a very good episode, a review with a lot of depth and detail.
Thanks man… appreciated. And thanks for watching!
Really impressive!🔥🤩
Thank for some great lenses....... !!!! People seem to love them in general. Read the comments. The "Turkey" thing is hilarious
Dreamy video as always! The music choice was very fitting, even bobbed my head to some of the tunes. It's crazy that 5500€ per lens is considered a value option. If they were like 799€ then I'd consider saving up, but I get it's not cheap to make. Already looking forwards to the next video :D
Thanks a lot.... well, you always have to see price & value in context. 5K is cheap for anamorphic cine lenses, especially 2x ones, these are definitely for professionals that price these into their projects budgets.... and rentals of course. Nice to have you around
Another great video. While they may be a convenient anamorphic solution, in my opinion they suffer from the same issue that all dzo optics do, a very unnatural and unattractive look. The sharpness is overt and almost crunchy and the fall off and bokeh is confused in how it presents is self in comparison. The bokeh is as you said messy, and has a jittery look on the focus pulls and the fall off seems to be fairly harsh adding to the crunchy look. The flares aren't anything special, fine if you want something more controlled but not my cup of tea.
Thanks a lot... I don't see a "very unnatural and unattractive look" on DZO lenses in general or on the PAVO.... but like I say in the video: Assessment of lenses - especially anamorphic - is so subjective, you got to find what is right for you. Thanks for your input!!
your videos always make me excited to film!
So glad to hear that.... that is the best we can hope for!
All your Videos have such a high quality it's like watching a High End Film Production. But on top of that you can learn so much about Videography. Thanks for your Work, I love every Video ^^
That is very nice to hear.... thank you so much man. Very happy to have you with us.
Another totally stellar video from Media Division! Would love to see you do a review/discussion on the Nisi Athena lens set. Your style of “review” that actually includes a “real” cinematic style short film rather than just some random documentary style shots is way better than 99% of other CZcams reviews.
Thanks a lot Kamasutra… Nisi actually contacted us about that, but they didn't like our timing requirements (we can't do something like this in a couple of weeks), and we can't do something of this complexity with the attached cost without their sponsoring. There are just a handful people watching tests of cine lenses (as this video shows - it made 90$ revenue), so, there is little incentive for us to spend 50 days of work to do a Athena test. I am sorry for that.
@@MediaDivision wow thanks for the detailed response! I totally get what you are saying. It makes total sense as your reviews and videos are in the top 1% in terms of quality on all fronts. You just sold me on the Pavos. I never would have seriously considered them until I watched your video! 😎
Always always..... very happy you found this useful. Enjoy your PAVOS when you get them... I think that the can reignite the creative fire@@Kamasutralovers
Fantastic video as always! I would love to just be there one day and ask questions and just see the workflow. Maybe one day! :)
Sure.... it's not magic... most of the time :-) If you have a specific question you can always ask!
I'm a simple man: Media Division posts a new video, I click, I enjoy, I hit like and smile for the following 30-40 minutes. Excellent work as usual!
Very nice of you Stefano … appreciated. Nice to viewers like you around!
well as usual you guys are too over powered when making youtube video😂, this is like watching a world class documentary when we talking about the quality of the video especially the image and sound design. Well done guys🔥🔥
Thanks a lot.... and still, Netflix just doesn't knock on our door :-( cruel world.
Like always- beautiful quality of video ❤
Thanks a lot man!
I'm not even a film maker or so nonetheless I find this channel awesome! Following since years and thrilled when you upload!
That is very motivating Dante! Always happy to go a little beyond our bubble! Thanks for hanging around that long ;-)
I just love the way you guys shoot your content!!
Thanks... happy you enjoy
Oh Happy Days - A Media Division film is here!
Enjoy! Thanks for hanging
Dear Nikolas, First of all HAPPY NEW YEAR ! And thanks for this great 'deep dive' into our favourite kind of glass :-). I was working with the Pictor-Zooms & Octopus-Adapter, and will for sure try to get my hands on some PAVOs ... See you ...
Happy New Year Peter! Schön das sie dir gefällt! Für die kleineren Sensoren sicher ein idealer partner… schön kompakt! Auf der GFX……… wäre spannend mal ein 120mm PAVO aufzuschnallen um zu gucken ob es covered.
@@MediaDivision Oh ja. Ich bin dabei eine GFX 100 II cinemäßig aufzubauen ... D.h. das 120er kommt auf meine "lens test list" !
Excellent video with a huge info about anamorphic lens system.👍
Thanks man… very happy you find it useful.... and, thank you for hanging around
perfect friday; a long media division episode
There you go… enjoy!!!!
always a good day when there is new Media Division content. How in the world are you guys not subbed to the hilt.
Thanks… well, niche of a niche of a niche....
Amazing job on an indepth review once again! 🔥
Thanks Morty… just wrote you an email
Phenomenal video, as usual 👏🏼🎉
Thanks a lot Geek… and thanks for watching
Der abgespacteste (keine Ahnung wie ich das auf Englisch übersetzen soll, drum der Kommentar ausnahmsweise auf Deutsch) Kanal auf CZcams mit dem perfektesten und qualitativ bestem Content. As good as it gets. Besser geht’s nicht. Liebe Grüsse und Happy 2024 🍀, live long and prosper 🖖.
Da danke ich ganz herzlich! ;-) Man tut was man kann und kann sonst nix. Auch Dir ein schönes 2024
Nobody was shot during these scenes :-) Awesome review. Great acting. Maybe time for a career switch ? 🙂
Naaa..... I hate being in front of the camera.... have to do it for lack of alternatives. Thanks for you kindness, glad to have you around
@@MediaDivisionthe line every true cameraman/photographer says. And it's mostly true.
Wow amazing, absolutely amazing video great job insane shots boooom 🔥💥 👌🏻👏🙌
Thanks a lot Ali.... appreciated. Glad you enjoy
As always, thank you so much for the great work
Totally our pleasure... thanks a lot for your kindness and for being around, we appreciate people like yourself!
been missing your channel..! glad to see new content.. can you do a video on Vazen lenses at some point? thanks for your efforts
Exactly
We where not gone… working on two more episodes right now… cool stuff, i promise. Putting something like this together takes about 3 month and 20 days work… long days. If Vazen wants to sponser an episode, we can talk. Can't do companies marketing for free, I have kids to feed.
Hervorragende Produktion: alles sehr verständlich erklärt und welch anmutende Ästhetik der Aufnahmen!
Ich bin nicht vom Fach, schaue eure Videos aber mit großem Vergnügen!
Splendid workmanship! Kudos!
Danke Dir! Wir wissen das sehr zu schätzen… Ganz besonders wenn es mal keine “Leute vom Fach” gucken. Arbeiten immer hart daran etwas zu produzieren das Eireu Zeit wert ist.
Amazing content as always! Would love to see you compare these to the new Blazar Remus lenses. I just bought the Nero 1.5x adapter after testing it and you can get some beautiful results with very round/oval bokeh.
Thanks a lot. Well, Blazer asked us to do something, so we will see if that is still happening… can't do it for free though… these episodes take up a LOT of time
@@MediaDivision yeah I totally get it.
Thanks as always nikolas for another great video. I always enjoy the proffesionalist that you put on these videos and, more than anything, that you shoot on Lumix :) Theres almost no people using the lumix system properly
Thanks a lot man… well I do shoot on Lumix, but admittedly it is where I use the least effort. Point and shoot… and that is where they really shine!
Your anamorphic videos inspired me to buy the Sirui 50mm f1.8 x1.33 and I’m in love with it
Glad to inspire... funny enough, I have never used a Sirui. Thanks for hanging around.
The matching flares to the blue and orange source color is really nice looking. Very natural. Not so jarring as with other Anamorphics. Great work here.
I think so to… they could be a bit more defined like with the Vantage Hawks, but, hey… you can't have everything. I love that they don't have fishing line definition and the candy color of some competitors
Always a treat to see one of your videos pop up in my Subscriptions feed
Always a treat to have you around with us and reading a nice comment like this one. Thank you for your kindness
Nicolas my birhtday is in April, just saying... that would be a gift I would never forget lol
Aside of the crasy wish always great to bump into your work, the Pavo 2X seem an amazing option under the 10K.
Happy new year, cheers!
Mine is in April, too… I could use a new liver! I would be very grateful to your decedents.
Glad you enjoy! Happy New Year Jorge!
Liver maybe a bit hard to find but we can shoot a liver spec asking for support if you want, going all anamorphic 😄
As for the birthday gift we can share a lens cap, more cute! lol
Como siempre son geniales y perfectos. Que gran trabajo. Altisima calidad ustedes.
Thanks man… appreciated!
Really great video. Thanks a lot. What 10" Ultrabright monitor did you use at the shoot? Looks also very interesting.
Thanks a lot… it is It is a Feelworld LUT11. I wouldn't generally recommend it for on camera work it is just to heavy. When you use an easy rig it is OK
Thanks you so much for the quick response and answer. Keep up the great work. You guys are fantastic!
@@MediaDivision
Always godlike. Thank you 👍
You are very kind.... thanks for watching and nice to have you around!
“Look man, I only need to know one thing… (* points in Vasquez *) …what they cost.”
Seriously though, im waiting to try the Atlas Mercuries, but these look really nice, as well. Thanks for bringing attention to them.
You know the drill... and don't drop those lenses!!!!!!
I haven't tried the Mercury either.... Atlas offered to lend me one, but I can't do their marketing for free - not always. Anyhow, being designed for a different format and squeeze they are hardly comparable anyhow. Price wise... well, 8.000 vs 5.500 per lens is quite dramatic.
Oh.... and thank you so much for your support as a member of course... the division salutes you!!!!
Another banger video!!! We gotta work on your pistol grip though aha. Good stuff :)
Thanks… the handling is as fake as the gun itself. ;-)
Great content and fantastic info! Can you tell us how you do your voice over? Is generated or you record yourself?
Thanks a lot… we would NEVER bore with AI generated stuff. It is my voice and I use a Neumann TLM 102, a zoom interface, Resolve/Fairlight, in a sound treated room (the one where I shot the talkies in.
I do really like the horizontal flares from the dzofilms! I do like the Atlas Mercurys overall a lot more. But there's just some projects where a softer flare is really nice
I like them, too. To be fair, the Mercury cost almost twice and they are 1.5x so, they are not very comparable.
Thank you. Great video ✨
With pleasure… thanks for watching Hans!
Whenever there's a new video, I stop what I'm doing to watch it. I wish I could own this kit (form factor is awesome) but for now I'm in the market to find an adapter that works with the SIgma Art Lens (18-35 and 50-100mm) lenses
Glad you enjoy Kristopher. 50-100 there is basically no chance.... the entrance pupil is ver retracted in that one ... causing vignette on everything. With the 18-35 you are so wide that almost all adapters I tried fail. Panasonic LA7200 is still the best option on that one and you need Diopters to make that one fly as it lacks focus. I heard that people are working on anamorphic zooms.... just saying
love the vid already
Thanks man… enjoy!
Absolutely amazing review. You are kicking it as usual.
Will do a donation here.
Thanks a lot Shmuel... very happy you enjoy and find it useful.
Quite nice for the size, interesting compact alternative to the Proteus lenses for people who don't want strong flares, but the main drawback I see are the heavy coma in those night exteriors... I don't think I've ever seen such strong coma before. Otherwise they have a nice look, though I tend to prefer a nice complex anamorphic flare personally.
I think so, too. Keep in mind that these are shot with 2x anamorphic wide open! I don't know any anamorphic wide lenses that perform "better" at such a wide FoV. I like "complex" anamorphic flares, too - I don't think the Proteus give you that either
@@MediaDivision yeah I was specifically comparing to the Proteus since those deliver similar features such as low flare, 2x s35, $5k per lens
You guys offer so, so much. I'm not exaggerating when I say you offer the most value for investment as a supporter. I just upgraded to Kubrick tier because of that. Insane levels of quality, creativity and love.
Thank you so much for that man… very much appreciate your kindness and your support. You make it possible - we salute you!
Great video. I took a 30 min detour in the middle googling Filmgear's lights. That Power Beam is super hot and works so well as a light prop in your videos!
Cheers man… I think it is a MoleBeam. It is usually used as a Faux Sun by the Marmalade
One of the best channels for filmmakers. Would be interesting, how the Blazar Remus hold up against the Pavos.
Thanks man… well, Blazer kind of asked us to do a review, but, giving our production value, we can't do it for free. With a sponsored test, it is always a bit difficult to make a direct comparison. Of course we could just go and rent the Blazers… but we don't want to be all about anamorphic all the time and such a test will be only so interesting to a tiny audience. In the end, we have to do things that have some value for us, as well as a large enough audience.
Does anyone use projection lenses for videography? Most of them cover 6x7, it would be interesting to see the results using a speed booster.
of course, especially for anamorphic (we test several in SCOPE chapter two), but those definitely don't work well with 6x7 unless you pair them with very long taking lenses and most projector lenses hate long FL taking lenses
nice review!
Glad you enjoyed it
What support system for camera was used?
Thx for the video.
It is DIY .... but is is a basic copy of a ready rig using just one arm
Thanks for watching
Amazing video!!! Your reviews is priceless! What about new BLAZAR Remus 45mm 1.5X Anamorphic Lenses can you make a review?
Thanks a lot… well, Blazar asked a while ago, but we don't want to over saturate our channel with anamorphic or lens test in general. Also, we spent over 20 days on an episode like this… a manufacturer has to make it tasty for us to bite.
@@MediaDivision Thank you for considering my input! I fully understand the need to maintain a balance in the content on your channel. ❤
Should Blazar or any other manufacturer present something truly innovative or captivating, we'll eagerly anticipate your expert analysis. Keep up the fantastic work!🙏
Will try! Thanks man!@@deomemann3182
I love the Scope Series for anamorphic lens, although i am just a poor user who only can afford Sirui 1.33x anamorphic lens.
Even PAVO is too expensive for me but i am very enjoy to watch this review.
Chinese lens factory bring the price down , it is very positive for consumers
Thanks man… I think so too… power to the people ;-)
Thanks for releasing another movie!
Always trying to put out something worth your time "pain itself"... thanks for watching
Fantastic video as usual. Thanks for doing the tests. It’s great to see these on an ARRI Alexa - I’m in the market for ( budget anamorphic ) but these just don’t really look that great. They still have an ‘ anamorphic adapter look ‘. The image feels a bit thin… almost like the glass used is very basic. I really like their Vespid primes though.
Thanks a lot… I am not quite sure what you mean with "thin" but I highly doubt that the glass is inferior in any way… especially compared to the Vespid primes. Like I mentioned… anamorphic lenses are highly subjective when it comes to judge an image.
Can you please do a video about the Moment Anamorphic Adapter? I would love to see your take on it...
Sorry, but we can’t just go out and buy every lens or adapter and invest week of work. We collaborate or we look at truly interesting products for professionals. In SCOPE chapter 2 and 3 we cover all sorts of adapters, I don’t think we have much to add to that.
Another masterpiece.
Oh, thank you man... appreciated
Wonderful work as always Nikolas. While I remain a spherical guy, there is one anamorphic set that "makes my heart sing" as you say ... the Xelmus Apollo. If you ever have a chance to shoot on Xelmus, I'd love to see what you do with them. Sadly they seem to be less popular, expensive, and in short supply from being manufactured in Ukraine. Also I'm probably in the minority of folks who LIKE that much flare. As in, I've never felt JJ Abrams overuses them, I loved Star Trek 2009, etc, so that probably says everything you need to know.
Hey Nick… I get it… spherical has it's merits and I heard it before…………… but we will get you sooner or later ;-) I never worked with the Apollo but what I have seen, sure… great option but at 4x the price … hey. Why don't just rent at Panavision. As for the flares, never argue taste … just make sure that you are not known to be the one guy who overcompensates with them ;-) As always, thank you for your support.
@@MediaDivision true, you could rent ... but if you shoot for long enough it becomes cheaper to own, but you can't own Panavision. Plus the Apollo are actually relatively light at about 2kg each. You aren't going to be operating any Panavision lenses without serious support. I could maybe roll with Mercury, I do like the shape of those flares a lot, although I wish they had a blue flare version. Amber flare makes me want to vomit.
Yes, I know… but owning Apollo makes no sense for owner operators. In that realm and up you rent… I know big commercial and Hollywood DoPs - and nobody owns because it is "cheaper"… you choose from project to project depending on the look you are after and others have a word in that, too. Apollo is for bigger production companies and rentals… and maybe 5 rich dudes just because. Panavision lenses are just as hard or easy to operate as the Apollo or other lower end options… they even have lenses designed for drones… but… they will not rent out to you unless you have some credits behind you. I tried… I didn't get any and neither did a high end productions I worked with.
You work with whatever suits your projects, budget, and taste… @@nick_salazar
@@MediaDivision yeah, yeah, I know. But one day I will own a set ... and everyone else can call me crazy/stupid for doing it.
If that is your hearts desire, who am I to "spit in your soup"… OK… than there will be 6 😂…@@nick_salazar
Just the other day, I was wondering what you’re guys doing. And here’s the answer!
one of them.... working on several other episodes
@@MediaDivision this sounds exciting!
that frame at 22:24 is brilliant!
glad you share our humour.... thanks for hanging
Bravo! your video is masterpiece!
Thanks a lot... always trying to improve something.
Mega Nice! Überlege mir für meine BMPCC 6K Pro die Pavo 75mm als Hauptlinse zu holen, müsste vorher nur ein paar Synthesizer verkaufen 😅. Euer Video ist da sehr hilfreich, wobei ich jetzt am liebsten den Koffer holen würde, nur leider hab ich nicht so viele Instrumente. 😁
Danke Dir… ich würde anamorphisch nicht grade als "Hauptlinse" nehmen… zu unpraktisch -aber wenn Du tatsächlich hautsächlich das machst… why not?! Nett Dich auf dem Channel zu haben.
Noo don't add fuel to my anamorphic addiction!!!
The floor is LAVA ;-) Sorry man… I have GAS myself
Whats the name/model of the camera support system used on location?
It is DIY .... but is is a basic copy of a ready rig using just one arm
Thanks!
We salute you for making our mission possible Shmuel.... thank you so much! This is for you.
New Media Division? 2024 gonna be a good year.
Lets all really hope so .... we can use a good year. Thanks Stephen!!
The lenses look great, just wish I could afford one.
A problem as old as time
the Elfman-esque score is nice and all but a bit loud/distracting : /
@ 23:56 that vignette flare is a strange thing to see
Sounds good on our studio monitors.... but you can't get it right for all setups.
I thought so too, the Orion covers so barely that you can see reflections in the Barrel
The bokeh of the Orion looks so much better than the Pavo's.
If you think so...
7:18 , I think there is dust in the sensor
yes, there is…
@@MediaDivisionliterally unwatchable ;)
Da wurde ich einfach ersetzt 😢😂
Du hast ja nie mehr Zeit für diesen Quatsch.... leider raucht Max nicht :-))
love this cheannel
Glad you do… thanks for hanging
I am a huge fan but i think I find these kind of reviews a little inconclusive. For the money of course the lenses are going to be good but in context better than whats out there?? I would much rather see bts from your own work or more importantly know what and why you choose certain gear rather than review gear im not sure you would want to use. Im not sure if you have given a mavo breakdown but your choice of that say over other brands is interesting in itself. Likewise what is your go to lens for the mavo? Why the s5ii? Not fuji? Or Sony or Canon?? Is full frame important? What about Fuji large format?? Whats the deal with the Alexa M?? Would love to know more about your passion work, is it shorts, docs but most of all it would be interesting to see you problem solve in real world situations as your charm personality and pragmatic approach to filming would seem ideally suited to shine in perhaps less controlled situations. Just a thought. Meanwhile thanks for the excellent work and insights.
Thanks for beeing a fan.... this is a long one but I'll try to shed some light.
1. This is a review and not a comparison. Would a comparison of the impertinent conteders be cool... sure, But we can't go out and buy/rent all of those to make an episode that is interesting do 50 people. Also, you can't expect the manufacturers to sponsor something like this. SCOPE chapter two tried something like that and........ look at the views.
2. This is why I usually show a lot of BTS... you see exactly what gear I use and with basic filmmaker knowledge you figure out why.... just as I do along the way. Why we use one product over the other? Availability? Convenience? Experience? All of that. We found out that either people find you to far ahead or to far behind to make those "whow and why" videos appeling to a larger audience.... how did we find out? We tried.
3. The MAVO LF is a super versatile and convenient camera. ProRes workflows are easy and fast. You have a perfect opengate LOG "negative". No fiddling, full manual, full cine cam. You appreciate things like that vs. cameras like the Bs1H where you hang to much in menus, it tries too much at once.
4. I choose lenses depending on the project, what I am going for, what I need practically. That can be an expensive vintage cine lens or a cheap kit zoom. If you need a light servo lens with close focus and the option to reframe, the latter will be the better choice. When you do a lot of things at the same time.... practical aspects become VERY important.
5. The S5IIx is a super convenient allrounder with great PDAF and stabilisation.... if you run around on fairs or events, for BTS, for scouting .... cine cams are pretty useless. Battery consumption alone will ruin your day. Why Panasonic? I have been using them for ages, I am used to them, I have a collaboration history with Panasonic, good bang for the buck, I like the video centric approach of them.... could you use fujisonycanon instead?... sure. Pick your hero. The end result will be largely indistinguishable. Practical aspect are what matters here, and Panasonic really works for me in that department.
6. Full Frame is very clean in difficult lighting situations and it allows you to crop to anything smaller if needed. In ideal circumstances format doesn't matter, but in the situations described above, that is hardly ever the case.
7. I had the GFX 100 II in my hands on a trade show but I haven't worked with it.... I would like to. Fuji??? Send me one!
Of course, that camera is not video centric and if your choice is a cine cam with a smaller sensor or a hybrid like the GFX with a larger one, the cine cam is the better choice. Full Frame is usually the best choice as there are so many interesting lens choices out there.
8. I always wanted to have an Alexa, but the classic/XT/SXT are the only affordable ones and the M is the only one of those that is light enough to work within my infra structure. Why Alexa? It is part of hunting the unicorn that is my idea of a cinematic image. I might do an episode about that.... soonish. I already shot parts for that.
9. It is nice of you to care about me and my opinions in that context... let me tell you that on CZcams and in the industry nobody cares about me.... or most other individuals. It doesn't work. That is not even negative.... it all comes together when you put your mind, time, and passion to it. I am not a motivational speaker, but if you have a specific question I might have the answer. For our Kubrick member we do consultation in video calls.... just can't do one on one for everyone... I got kids to feed.
I hope that helps a bit
@@MediaDivision hey thanks for taking the time to reply in such detail. Much appreciated. I totally understand the need to keep content aligned to CZcams as a platform and the pragmatic nature of devising content accordingly in terms of time resources and ROI. I guess i see maybe too many CZcams channels who have people as their front end who are strangely unqualified and in many ways their “we are all learning as we go along” is their USP. Unfortunately many of them are not particularly good communicators and frankly it can be painful hoping to be surprised by a gem of actionable knowledge popping up. Of course some are but their insights with some notable exceptions of predictably limited. I guess i see you as hugely qualified authoritative voice and as a fantastic communicator not least because of your confident demeanour and self effacing charm. I would just love to see more aspects of your work insights and opinion away from kit reviews. I know you have done spectacular work on specialist subjects but those are by their very nature very complete as stand alone work. Your camera choice is wholly understandable and makes perfect sense maybe i would love to see you break down a scene from a film or host a roundtable on filmmaking in general with some if your friends and collaborators. I understand its all time and resource dependent so maybe i need to delve deeper into your ecosystem of content offerings. Thanks so much for all your work and your reply.
I would totally put myself and this channel in the: “we are all learning as we go along” category. I am self taught and … boy, just look a few year back in our episodes and we are i a totally diffrent class. We all came a long way together and there is something nice about sharing that journey. You choose which one makes sense to follow depending on where you are. There are many here that accuse us for being to professional to follow - and I get it, but we have to be somewhere where we feel it is interesting for us to be. This channel is meant to be educational for us just as well as the audience. The round table is a nice idea, but, the problem is always to get the right people together… timing wise and considering profession. That would be something for a trade show…… maybe I will do something like that… thanks for the input.
@@MediaDivision thanks again for your reply. Much appreciated and understood. Take care and keep the fantastic standard of work up. I wish you the very best for 2024.