What Happened To Jaghatai Khan? - 40K Theories
Vložit
- čas přidán 8. 09. 2018
- The Primarch of the Fifth Legion vanished without a trace. What could have happened to him?
Featuring the voice talents of
Papa Manatee as Njal Stormcaller
&
The Fresh Sorcerer as Jaghatai Khan
/ zolken91
All art property of their respective owners
Visit Games Workshop's official site here:
www.games-workshop.com/
Support 40K Theories on Patreon:
/ 40ktheories - Hry
In regards to the information supposedly revealed in Lords of Silence (Which I have not read yet so I cannot confirm nor deny) please bear in mind this video was written, recorded and uploaded/scheduled *before* that book was released, so I wouldn't have been able to incorporate any information from that book into this.
As for The Last Hunt, I admit I did miss the 'Call of the Khagan' thing which admittedly I should have incorporated.
As for other parts of that book (such as near the beginning with the warrior in white speaking in old chogorisian while fighting yaksha with silver armoured warriors) I initially thought that *could* have been something to do with Jaghatai, until the end of the book with the time travel paradox nonsense.
TTS refrences inbound
40K Theories he’s based of gangs khone right if he died he would and I shit you not this is actually how they say he died. Took an arrow to the knee.
Look at the new battleflett gothic trailer
Do you have an idea of what Vulkan is doing at the moment?
He's definitely alive and around in the galaxy or warp. Are any references out there on what he might be doing?
@@machasenau probably leading an ork waaagh band...
He has been captured and held prisoner by Dark Eldar thots who keep trying to get him to "ride them like a bike". Alas, they are not bikes, and thus, can bring him no pleasure.
SexualYeti HHHHHHEEE...
@@lioneljonson8556 WAKE UP YOU GAY LION-LOVER.
I knew you would show up
Somehow I can see Bruva Alfabusa using this as the legit reason for where Jaghatai is.......
People are looking at me funny because this made me literally lol, they aren't 40k players, I have no explanation for them.
He's not trapped in the webway, he's trapped the dark eldar in the webway.
he has surrounded them. andh is alone.
Make sense
julian braunbeck " those poor bastards !"
"im not locked in here with you... You're locked in here with me!"
He has them surrounded....from the inside.
He managed to hit exactly 88 miles per hour and lighting stuck his bike.
Alvor Real Struck*
Best answer
Great Scott!
@The Jim Reaper™ more like Grammar Inquisitor, amirite?
And thus he was flung into the future, where Chao’s evil is law. Now the fool seeks to return to the past, and undo the future that is Chaos.
*Gotta get back, back to the past, Jagahtai Kahn.*
Just so we all know, Jaghatai Khan is NOT, I repeat the Warhawk is NOT trapped in the Webway with the Dark Eldar, they are trapped in the Webway with him.
In any situation where someone is trapped with someone else and one of them is a Primarch, the other party is definitely the trap-ee.
Even if the trap is their own.
What book is this in? Id like to read more about this Primarch
He did a crappy job of getting them all. Just ask Lukas the Trickster.
Rightfully deserved. After all the innocents killed finally people die who deserve it
So Jagatai's relatonship with the Drukari is like Obelix and the boars and Romans.....
He learned why big Daddy E wanted to build a human webway. If Aeldari hookers are top tier, Drukhari hookers are even better.
.........That or he became one with the Speed Force.
Internet Zen Master ok...good one. 👍
+Internet Zen Master Too many spikes.
If anything not enough spikes!
+Malal Shut it, Malal! You don't even exist...
@@Xaxp MOAR SPIKES!!!!
The Great Khan said he was going out for a pack of smokes. Ten thousand years ago.
(When the white scares receive new bike that reach 99% of the speed of light) "hey sons, remember me?"
He went to get milk
@@ethanguest3438 DAEMONETTE MILK
@@sorenthelurker5506 yes inquisitor, this comment right here:
@@ethanguest3438 the inquisitor is a slaaneshi agent
Lionel wakes up and a
sees his legion: "Green.... Green?!!.... GREEEEEEENNNN!!!!!!?????"
"God Prince of Mon-Keigh" well done on perfectly encapsulating how Eldar look at the Primarchs.
Hopefully, Russ, Starchild, and the Inquisition will pick him up on the way out of Galactic New Jersey.
It's Space Vegas.
More like new jersey combined with Amsterdam
Nah. We Ultramarines will do that! *ultramarine chanting intensifies*
The Emperor himself gave us this mission and we will do it!
So long as someone finally gives Dorn a hand, he's been waiting fucking ages for one.
Joe Avreg he does not want his original hand back though, as he said himself after giving details of what the Imperial fists did with it
Jaghatai..... I foresee a mass attack against the Custodes on the warp breach point at Terra, as they try to flood out, before behind them emerges a very angry Jaghatai and it is later revealed that everything was escaping him and his endless human WAAGH, which even Orks want to join.
if vulcan wills it yes he might be in touch whit the waagh atm and what changes will he make.
Obviously he is hunting down a blue spikey xenos and his twin-tailed fox friend to race him
This comment is gold
while racing against the Black Spikey one?
Last I heard he was standing on a tank that was going about 200 Mph during the Horus Humbug
Sax marine look it up truly awesome
Is that even a question? Bike races, lots of bike races.
Something is wooshing over my head.... Why is this comment sectipn nothing but biking/speed jokes?
@@andrewthemaroon8608 Watch Bruva Alfabusa's "If the Emperor Had a Text-to-Speech" device series
*"Super rapid pursuit on those Dark Eldar"*
*"Ultra Rapid Deployment!"*
A Space Wolf who's half Scottish, half Brummie...who knew?
That accent was fucking heretically bad
Prophesied more crappy chariots, Njal should have kept that to himself.
he became one with the speed-force, then became the source of it
6:39
Sleeper entombed in rock = Lion el Johnson
White Storm that rode upon a chariot of lightning = Jaghatai Khain
A shadow rises to the call of the allfather's messengers = Corvus Corax?
A darkness that strikes from within = Also Corvus Corax? Or maybe Conrad Curze?
The darkness that strikes from within sounds like Alpha Legion.
Shaun Smith no the legion of the damned
i really am starting to believe that every primarch that didn't die in the horus heresy series is still alive, except maybe curze.
And Ferrus.
@@CryingZombie666 died during the heresy, just like alpharius
@@sjoerddz ferrus is dead yes but the night haunter show me a corpse,alpharius and omegon show me 2 dead primarcs okay .
TerranGaming there's rumors that rogal dorn is still alive and living on terra
Missing primarch rumored to be alive in serbia
I'll go with Alfabusa story, where Jaghatai Khan had a 10 000 years long death race with the dark eldars.
*KHAN LIVES.*
stomp, stomp
more like
KHAN LIVES
*Roaring Bike Sounds*
julian braunbeck KAHN LIVES.
VROOM VROOM
KATANA WEILDING BIKERS WTF GUYS THATS SO FUCKING COOL
White Scars is dope
Not a Katana, a Tulwar. A Katana is too short to use mounted, the White Scars are Mongolian so they'll use Tulwar sabres. This nitpick has been brought to you by overzealous nerds. Overzealous Nerds, correcting you obnoxiously since the 1990's
weldonwin they are space Mongolian but apart from galactic geography they are the same
If Jaghatai did anything else than, floating thought the warp on his chariot of lighting 10K years in to the future, his results would be a bit of an underachievement. 10K years’ worth of a primarch roaming the streets of Commorragh? Commorragh should be in ruins.
So that caused the great rift in the galaxy! The Khan wore out the streets.
lol
time doesn't flow the same tho... 10,000 years could just be days, weeks, or months.
its like a solar system wide city, he could wipe out an earth sized empire in a hundred years and still have no noticable effect
@@AsbestosMuffins If it would be that ineffective, Jagatai would change his Strategi into something that is. He is a Primark for crying out loude.
That quote from Njal Stormcaller could also be about a lot of loyalist primarchs as it references Lion'el Johnson (Sleeper entombed in Rock) and Corvus Corax (A shadow rises to the call of the Allfathers messengers, a darkness strikes from within) as Corvus is now a part shadow warp creature.
I was think that “A darkness that strikes from within”could refer to Omegon, as further evidence that he is indeed still alive and ultimately loyal to the Imperium
@@nedcurfman3486 Agreed the shadow is obviously corax but maybe the darkness that strikes from within could be Omegon coz striking from within is the Alpha legions main tactic .
Eldrad : We need to convince The primarch of the iron hands to trust us and our warnings
Human adviser: Yeah that makes sense.What the plan?
Eldrad: We will trick him into a complex trap that endangers his sons and then trap him like an animal while being sorta cryptic an shit hint at a disaster and betrayal.
Human adviser: umm ...
Eldrad : Then I'm sure he will be receptive to our warnings and maybe even grateful.
Human adviser: I really don't think this will....
Eldrad: It is a brilliant plan. Your simple Mon-keigh mind can not fully grasp its genius.
Every elfish plans are like that.
They are supposedly smart, but haven't yet understand how humans works...
Fucking elves.
maybe he ran out of gas?
Tobias H I am now imagining him stranded on the side of the Webway thumbs out and gas canister in hand
Impossible
Hi
Hilarious
A fate worse than death.
One day, he will stride out of the web-way and hold aloft the severed head of Asdrubael Vect in triumph.
HAIL THE ALL FATHER!!!
At this point Vect would call that a flesh wound. He's gone beyond mortality.
Kallnar still, it’d be one stylish mantle piece
Hi There the white scars use the severed heads of their enemies as drinking cups
Here’s hoping
No he challenge the dark eldar to 10000 yearsblong bike racing
Thomas Gibbs yes jaghatai likes to go fast
Gona go fast
ULTRA RAPID DEPLOYMENT WOAH SO FAST SO ULTRA RAPID FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
It is impossible for Jaghatai to be trapped, for being trapped requires being still, an act that the Khan would never submit to
Nahh Khan is alive, Primarch aren't supposed to die easily. he most likely got stuck somewhere in the webway, waiting for someone(that isn't a daemon or Drukari) to finally pick him up after a goddamn 10k years.
old webway so time and space might not be same for him 144 heartbeats for the imperium 10k years.
@@tobiascarlsson5967 If that's the case he'd be very surprised on the state of the galaxy at hand "I was only gone for like 5 minutes!"
He's on the side of the road, thumb stuck out...
Dark Eldar: Foolish Mon'keigh, you're trapped in the web way with us!
Khan: Incorrect. You are all trapped in here with ME.
The Only Thing They Fear Is You starts playing
" Ahh Vect. That guy knows how to mix a drink "
He rode through the Gates of Valhalla, Shiny and Chrome!
If I where going to look for Khan , I'd start with Vect .
Who's the faster flyer you or Corax?
Primarch Roboute Guilliman Lord of Ultramar me .
Ok. let's find our brother in commorragh
You could say he's "drifting"... in the warp.
3:37 TFW you fall backwards on PC Gaming Chair.
I like the idea that he’s cleansing the web way. Would be cool if he and his warriors opened the now clear gate into the throne room.
The Imperium is then able to use the web way for quick strikes.
Great video. As always.
but i am not sure
@@Iceknight101 not sure about what?
Watch Chapter master valrak videos also.
He did a theory about the possibility of the Khan coming back and where he is.
Doubtful that the webway will be fixed anytime soon tbh.
Tho watch the video.
Not to choke up the comments further with TTS references, but don’t you mean “MUNDUS PLAAAAAAAAAAANUS?!”
Hypothesis: khan and russ met up at a webway crossing, went drinking and just haven't checked their watch yet.
'we should really get back to work the imperium is verging on collapse, threatened on all fronts, from enemies within...'
'...and without, the xenos and yadda yadda blub blub. isn't it always? What are they gonna do? Reboot us if they run out of superlatives they can make contractions of?
'christ on a pike, was father just a droog all along? Were we?'
'no, I think we just got retconned that way to fit a younger audience devoid of a strong moral core in the face of power.'
He either became one with the speed force or he's killing so many daemons around the Terra warp gate that he caused the daemons to retreat through the gate
Don't you mean Mundus PLAIN-us?
BAD JOKE STOP IT
It is Mundus PLAN-us
Its Mundus *PLANE* -us
Do we have to go trough another civil war?
@@gibuswagen7729 Yes, the last one ended too short in my opinion
My theory is that the khan will spend his "time" in the webway mapping it and learning its secrets which will come in handy later on when humanity tries to utilize webway due to unreliable warp traveling.
He is having infinite bike races with the Dark Eldar. By the way did the white scars have any jet bikes? Did Jagatai Khan have a jet bike of his own?
Da Sword Of Gork hey probably did since jetbikes are available in Horus Heresy.
Da Sword Of Gork yeah he did his jetbike was a bit bigger then a landspeeder
The white scars legion made extensive and superlative use of jetbikes.
This is why I love Warhammer 40K they didn't say nothing about what happened to him until a book comes out explaining or he comes back explaining we're left with imagination he did what ever you imagine that's what happened I love that
He’s beating the dark elder in ten thousand years of bike races
He's basically DOOMGUY in the web way now slaying dalk eldar with a chain sword to the doom theme
Theres always the possibility that hes become part of Trayzn's collection. If anyone could capture him, it'd be Trayzn.
Iam also trapped in comoragh with that one inquisitor
wolf wolfy wolf wolfing wolf wolf wolf wolfy wolf wolf wolfy wolfing wolf
@@lioneljonson8556 damn it lion go back to sleep
wolf *wolf **_wolfy wolf_*_ __-wolf wolfy -_*_-wolfing wolf-_*_- wolfy wolf w*olf-__ wolf wolf __-wolfy wolf-__ wolf_ wolf wolfing wolf
Srsly, tell them to rename some of that stuff. And get rid of the sleigh. It makes Grimnar look like Santa.
Hey Leman give Kaldor a tangerine for me please!
vulcan burned to a crisp and died over over again and you cant talk yet he made a speace and ended the Beast.
Philosoraptor....I can only assume you have yet to read "The Last Hunt" the White Scars have heard the "call of the Khagan" a kind of psychic link to his sons, the Stormseers can sense him now, and as we learned from the novel Lord's of Silence, Mortarion has now confirmed that all his brothers that can return are
This episode was written, recorded and published before my copy of Lords of Silence arrived, so that's why info from that book isn't included :)
As for The Last Hunt, I initially thought the vision Joghaten suffered at the beginning (the warrior in white speaking old chogorisian fighting yaksha with silver warriors) might have been a potential reference to the Primarch, but given the weird time travel paradox nature of much of the plot (resulting in two Joghaten Khans running around for example) it could be a reference to future events of the 'doubles' as it were.
The Stormseers being able to sense him isn't entirely unprecedented seeing as
a) They're psykers
&
b) If Njal's vision was indeed about to Jaghatai (as mentioned in the video), then other psykers would also logically be able to sense his presence.
As for the call of the Khagan, okay that's something I missed, fair enough >_
@@40KTheories ummm doesn't the inquisition have a branch to stop time travel?
Christian Blanchard Aeldari webway fuckery, The Inquisition knew nothing of it and never will
@@26th_Primarch They do... or rather did. If memory serves they all disappeared without trace. My best guess is they're screwing around in the past trying to undo the Horus heresy.
dident the Khan fall in a hole while hunting those zenos that laid eggs in the brains of psykers.
Another excellent episode!
He is still chasing the same Dark Eldar raiding party, followed by a Harlequin playing Yackety Sax...
Legend says he is still trying to find the perfect combination of milk and smokes
That Space Wolf voice was painful
6:12 *haggis intensifies*
He started a throat singing band of bike riding Mongolians. It's pretty metal and one of my favorite bands of this millennium.
Njal Stormcallers voice was just perfect :)
- walks into the webway with a large net and spike strips -
This is the only Primarch that is still stuck fighting in a dark Eldar zone and has yet to find a way out. His return to the Imperium Of Man will be an unexpected one but welcomed.
Given how the Dark City functions, it is very likely that the Khagan was captured and taken into the core of the city. As the Drukhari require souls to function they could also use said souls as batteries. Since the Primarchs are functionally immortal Jaghatai would be essentially an endless source of energy if subdued
If a bunch of Astartes can wreck Commoragh there's no way the Dark Eldar can hold a primarch. Besides, as Remleiz points out, he could have escaped with the Salamanders when they came knocking. JK is not in Commorargh.
@@r.m.renfield4541 Those Astartes managed to wreak avoc in the city because Asdrubal Vect wanted them to do so.
Dmitry Freyger implying that those scrawny, knife eared xenos have the guts and the muscle mass capable of capturing and holding someone who could tear them apart with his bear hands, the only way they could capture him is if they threatened to kill his people if he didn't surrender and honestly the khans don't seem like the type
yay! I'm finally in the supporter section!
I know it may be a far fetched idea but.. What if during his thosaunds year hunt for the spiky bike boys he came to willingly stay in the webway reforming a joint legion with the brotherhood he brought into the webway and Drukari rebels. Maybe he's trying to break apart the Dark Eldar politics from the inside after leaning of how Vec does things. Khan is a politician the same way his real world counter part was: he didn't loath cutltures that weren't his own, but seeked to strengthen his own with what he could learn from them. 40k Khan and Our Khan are opportunists and nobel leaders I don't see Khan spending 10,000 years simply fighting for the sake of fighting for his planet. Hell maybe he formed his own cabal and is building the fastest army ever. Forming a chaos god of speed
Ninno of the last Unicorn you know that makes a lot of sense, though I doubt jagatai is as salacious as the real world great Kahn
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM
The nial storm caller quote sounds referneces 3 individual. Lion, Jaghati, and either Vulkan or Conrad. A shadow who strikes from within, would make me think Conrad. Conrad never fell to chaos as much as multiple personality disorder, what better primarch to be an chaotic neutral anti hero. Doesn't care who he kills as long as they die...
He cleanses the part of webway flood with demons, to ease up his father's burden.
Khan Upon Being Cornered By The Dark Eldar: "I'm not trapped in here with you, you're trapped in here with me!"
Plot twist: Jaghatai Khan has been purging the Webway under the direction of Alpharius.
Second plot twist.
The Khan was really Alpharius
Eric Grieve Third plot twist: The Emperor is also Alpharius.
Mega Plot Twist
Alpharius is the true fifth Chaos God and orchestrated the Heresy and the modern Imperium himself
Eric Grieve Ultimate plot twist: the entire 40k universe actually takes place in the mind of Alpharius. In other words, Alpharius is Matt Ward!
By the gods...
It all makes sense
Jagatan voice, he is going to be in the next episode of tts
I was expecting his accent sounds like a of old and a wise Japanese Samurai or a Shogun(even though Khan is a Space Mongol)
I can see jaghetai,corvus, and leman russ each with objectives in the warp working together along with caldor drago
He's tapped into his warp powers like corax and has accessed the speed force to fight the drukhari
Last Time I've Heard of The Primarch He left an Letter Saying
"Going Faster than Those Pointy Eared Bastards"
I think if the Dark Eldar captured him they would parade their triumph and make an example of him, this has not happened
I thought it was cannon that the Khan was lost within the Webway. Also I'm inclined to agree with one of your earlier theories that Jaghatai Khan may be the Dread Guardian of the Black Library.
This sounds like a great way for Games Workshop to segway into an Arena battle tabletop game which includes Jaghatai Kahn and his best soliders fighting in the Eldar stadiums.
Hey Rem, after getting my hands on the 8th edition craftworlds codex I had a couple theories that's been itching me. Maybe you could answer them:
1. What would happen if an eldar autarch were to train as every warrior aspect before taking the path of the leader and are there any examples of this? The only autarchs Ive seen have only trained in on or two warrior aspects. Is branching out that far without "getting lost on a path" even possible? If it is possible does anything special happen?
2. What happens to an Avatar of Khaine after it "dies"? There are multiple instances of Avatars dying (*cough* Calgar *cough*) but I have never heard of what happens to an avatar after "death" They are supposed to be deamons so one would think they regenerate in the warp, but I never hear of such a thing happening. Does the Avatar regenerate in the craftworld or are they dead dead?
Thanks a ton for the clarity if you could give it and if not thanks anyways for the awesome vids!
He is a man who likes his poetry to be shouted.
Mr Khan in the webway: now this is pod racing.
I like to imagine he rode directly into the Eye if Terror on his bike, and he's slaughtering daemons with speed and brutality.
May he ride eternal shiny and Chrome to the gates of Khaine.
He challenged the Dark Eldar to 10,000 years worth of Bike Races, we already knew this.
Emperor - who wants to go fast, jaghatai kahn- i do I want to go fast
I honestly think he was purging the Webway when the raid happened. THEN he got captured.
He accepted the codex astartes on the condition that Guilliman personally handed it to him, then yeeted himself out of realspace
If he was fighting chaos in the webway... my bet is on him being somewhere on or near the black library inside the webway... probably trying to find someway of fighting chaos.
Some say that Jaghatai Khan is still to this day fighting Kratos for stealing hes look.
They are both based on Cain and his mark.
Seems like one day their going to have a monster primarch storyline.
3:36 HEZ FIRIN' HIS LAZOR!
Whatever happened to the Khan? Simple: he has been busy seeking his revenge on James T. Kirk. Mystery solved. "Khaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!!"
Our glorious Primarch is not stuck in the webway. The webway is stuck with our glorious Khan!
I think he got a taste of that Drukhari Padussy fresh from battle and yeah, that’s what he’s been doing for the past 10k
They're going to find him in the fighting pits in TTS, I'm betting on it!
As in a previous video it was mention that Vulcan and Dorn could be possibly together stomping around. Could Kharn of met up with his brothers or even had he came across..... Russ? Could all four be planning something together and return like Guilliman has?
He is an exclusive online pre order, limited edition , only 100 made model for the new speed freak game.
He ate too much of the speed weed
Hello Omegon, it is I, Omegon!
"Mundus plaaaaaaayyyyneeus" - a naked and perverted custodes
One overlooked bit of lore was that when Jaghatai Khan found out about the Drukhari raids, he swore multiple oaths of vengeance against the pointy eared xenos before he disappeared to pursue them. It does make one wonder how many oaths he has fulfilled, or on the inverse, how many more oaths did he swear during his ten millennia hunt? This is backed up by the fact that the White Scars themselves have their own hunt list, where names of escaped enemies are written and it falls to the Master of the Hunt to avenge this stain on their honor by bringing back the head of said enemy. Maybe the Khan refused to return until all his oaths have been avenged, but they keep piling up and inevitably delayed his return to real space?
That title gives me Robot Jones flashbacks...
He became the speed, just the speed
He's chilling with the harlequins
Obviously, he went into the web way and challenged the dark eldar to a 10k years worth of bike races
The Only Time He was Seen Standing Still Was When He Was Standing On A Landraider (or Something I forgot) That Was Speeding
One day the webway gate opens up and there is a tsunami of severed Daemon heads, Dark Eldar heads, Ork heads, etc. come pouring out with Jaghatai Khan, Leman Russ, and Old Man Henderson walking out with a keg of beer and a bunch of garden gnomes.
The Khan Just challenge the Dark Eldar to a never ending race
the homunculi covens have turned him into a grotesque