KRX 1000 or Maverick Sport XRC
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- čas přidán 30. 04. 2020
- After a few weeks in Dave's Maverick Sport X RC, Garrett is ready to give you his thoughts on the rig. He'll tell you how it performs in the hard pack, in the sand, and in the rocks and let you know if after some time in the XRC, he made the right decision when he purchased the KRX.
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I called my local dealer who sells both Polaris and Canam. He shot me over to his service department. They were the ones who told me they have 5-10 Polaris’s in for repair for every one Canam they have come in for repair... we were talking mechanical issues not driver error. That spoke volumes to me, I think I’m headed the BRP direction.
You know what's funny the utv dealer in san angelo tx told me they have tons of polaris in stock but only a couple can ams lol. We ended up getting a teryx4 instead though.
They probably sell a lot more polaris as well tho, so it may skew the results, by the sheer numbers of polaris.
What a great opportunity to be able to switch up rides. Great way to compare everything. I’m a little jelly. Looks like fun over all.
Dont matter what utv you buy youll always wonder if other ones better
Exactly right!
Buy from a good dealer who has good service and you`ll never go wrong.
So I was looking at both of these machines a few months ago ended up going with the KRX. Since then I’ve wondered did I buy the right machine. Not because I’m not happy with the KRX because the things a beast. More so because I was curious about the XRC. I felt the same sitting in the XRC really like the seating better and the doors better. Thanks for making this video! Makes me feel much better about the purchase I made without being able to drive both. Can’t wait to see what Dave thinks of the KRX. Your all’s channel is awesome.
Thanks for watching! -Garrett
I absolutely love my KRX
Hey guys great review! I have an xrc and a riding buddy has a krx. We run pretty hard in Arizona desert. With the stock set up i think you were right on. I have modified my xrc with dual springs and shock rebuild front and back. My rebuild was done by shock therapy. Its a totally different machine after the dual springs were installed. I couldn’t help but follow the springs up with revalued shocks by shock therapy. The biggest surprise is it handles the rocks much belter too. There much more give in the suspension that give the xrc more control crawling over boulders. I put my front control back on because my speeds are much faster on the trails and i eat up the corners. The ride is smoooth no more chatter As we all know one thing always leads to another. I have ordered up graded control arms to handle the xtra stress this machine now can deliver to the suspension. Pocket change fab has control arms that are much stronger plus they add 5 inches in length. I don’t feel the need to raise the machine up with bigger tires. I wonder if people putting bigger tires on are putting a bandaid on hoping it’ll take the chatter out of the ride. aId put your money into the dual springs
Sounds like a killer rig! -Joe
Great content! Please keep it comin’! 🇺🇸👍🏻🇺🇸👍🏻🇺🇸
Thanks for watching! -Garrett
That little shelf at 3:47 always freaks me out when I take it on my Sportsman 800. I know the machine has enough power, but that shorter wheelbase just makes it feel so tippy. I guess its just a matter of trusting the machine and taking it over more obstacles to build experience.
Good video. A fast forward speed showing the change of shock setting would make it even better.
You mean changing the setting on the XRC? Nothing to show. Just click the dial to position 1 2 or 3.
Real talk starting @ 4:21 yessir!
Great Content. These are the kinds of video's that we need to see more often. I'm getting tired of watching guys acting like Idiots, and trying to destroy their machines in Mud or Jumps.
FYI..... it would not be fair to compare the X3 unit to the Kawi. The X3 is not in the price range. I own both. Bought the Kawi last month and finally get to take a maiden voyage tomorrow.
Seven months in - how do you find the KRX compared to the X3 so far?
You can buy a base model 120hp X3 for the same price or cheaper than the KRX.
Yeah ultimately this is coming down to a matter of speed, how fast you can take trails that are rough and the next is with of the car and the advantage or disadvantage of the width. which really can’t be compared because each will excel in different environments, there are many roads I’ve traveled down the Krx would never fit so you would never be able to ride it , but there are dirt roads that I would love to take it on that are wider. I think everyone will come to a conclusion “ what kind of riding am I going to do most of the time, and what are the compromises when I’m not ? the XRC will go through the desert all day long at 10-20 mile an hour slower than KRX but it will go, and it will be I don’t see the downside it just matters at what speed you do it, And comfortable as long as you don’t push it beyond its capability and have the shocks set up correctly, if you want to just go blasting through the desert as fast as you can then the KRX is the machine for that, each will cross over into others territory but may not excel in that area, as there are many roads/trails the KRX & wider machines will not fit down, but are you ever gonna have to worry about places to ride the answer is no...
Well said !!!
From watching the XRC on the whoops, it looks like the shocks are the problem. The rear needs rebound adjustment.. notice how the back end is "jumping up" (extending) so fast over each of the whoops. That needs to be slowed down. I guess the Maverick Sport doesn't get the fancy RC2 shocks of the X3's, which have high and low speed settings for both rebound and compression.
From watching this and other videos, I think the Liberty tires aren't that great. They're probably fine all-around tires but they aren't sticky enough for playing on the rocks.
Throttle response -- not having driven one, all I can say is I think the KRX needs better clutching. It's initial backshift could happen a lot faster, which would improve the throttle response considerably.
Agreed on the KRX seat sliders... what the hell, Kawi? I also wish the seats would fold forward since there's so much room behind the seats (for us shorter folks).
I totally agree with you on your comments. The tires need to go so keep watching. Also the weight of the KRX will affect hole shot, but like you said clutching can be tuned to get that fixed as well. Also seats that slide up so you could get behind them easier would be awesome. 👍 -Garrett
Hanging a spare tire off the back will also help with the bucking.... Shock Therapy will tell you that too... as they mentioned them.
Yes we have seen their video and it’s great input.
You can only get so much from that suspension set up. Trailing arms are the all around way to go.
@@scottrevert5368 the springs are a huge issue on the xrc....I wouldn't buy a rig with trailing arms
Great video. Do you think you would have had a better outcome with the Maverick sport xxc in comparison to the Kawasaki rather than the Maverick sport xrc
I don’t feel it’s any different, model is different but the suspension is basically the same geometry.
Preload on springs doesn't change softeness or stiffness. They will still be whatever spring rate they came as. It only changes ride height.
So if you adjust the spring down adding more preload it won’t make the ride stiffer?
@@DerangedOffRoad the spring rate should remain the same no matter what unless you have an inch or 2 of progressive spring rate. Then you might just loose that inch of softness. I drive a trail arm tacoma that uses 400lb springs in the rear. Adjusting it only raises my bed.
Looking to buy a machine this year and enjoyed your input. The thing I think is if you were to put this machines in a different environment you would probably have a completely different opinion. I live up in the north west, where there is although tighter trails and TREES so size matters. It would be cool to move to one of those environments to see what you think then? It does seem that the XRC has vary stiff springs though. A different spring package and shock adjustment could make a big difference. Good to here that zap therapy is working on it. KRX seems like a good all rounder but a bit big for tight trails.
Honestly over 3 years of having machines I have not done a lot of really tight trails. So it’s why I didn’t really consider it in this review. I did mention that the XRC would excel in that part though. You make a lot of great points! 👍 -Garrett
I ride all kinds of tight trails in my KRX with no problem...... everybody I know is making their Polaris bigger and wider taller tires and lift kits...........better stability and they handle the ruts like a beast. ... absolutely love trail riding mine
@@trevorbraden5448 Where I live you won't be driving a 68" machine without a chain saw, oh, and bring lots of spare gas for it. Again it depends on where you ride.
@@paulcook5233 I live in the Midwest Cincinnati Ohio and ride Haspin acres...... very tight trails...... but we also travel down south in Kentucky and Tennessee......and heading to West Virginia....... so far only riding Ive ever done was wooded trail riding. ....... never been In any desert situations......
I went with the xrc due to the size. I live in a state that enforces the width laws. We just went from 60 inches to 65. The xrc is 64 inches wide, and I can use it. The krx is a beast, truly a monster. But being 68 inches wide, you have a two year window before you cant register them anymore according to the law.
what state are you in?
@@davidandrews9048 Maine
I know what you're saying. I'm in Pa and you can have the same problem here. I would like to ride the wilds. I believe 68 " is too wide. There are places where it's ok, but some state forrest it's not.
Do you prefer the narrow width? I grew up in jeeps and always seemed to be better off running full width axles. Now that I’m doing the sxs thing I’m running a 64 wide machine but wish I would have went 72.
Width depends more on where you are riding. Got a friend that has an x3 RR 72 inch. Which is about useless here on local trails. It’s to wide. The trail is so tight that he can’t even use the machine for what it’s meant for. I wouldn’t want anything wider than 64 inch around here. Where these guys are riding the XRC is definitely not the ideal machine to have. It’s made more for east side of the Untied States riding.
You mentioned shock therapy designing RIS for the Mav Sport...i believe AZAdventure got his hands on demo or prototype for his Mav Sport. He just did a short video on his channel.
Yes he did. I've chatted with him about it some. I believe his machine has the Fox 2.0 shocks. They're still developing the system for the fox 2.5
@@DerangedOffRoad I believe shock therapy recommended on the Sport RC that having a rear tire off the back bumper helped with the bucking in the woops and small chatter.
I do parking lot reviews prior to me purchaser a machine. This review was excellent, editing was great! Debating buying for northeast riding a rzr pro, Maverick x3 RR, Talon...please comment. Thank you for sharing 🙂
All same class but meant to perform a bit different in certain categories. The real diff maker has gotta be the trailing arms that makes the xrc in a couple spots sit behind. But size and nimbleness it shines good. I have the Xmr and the shock settings are great for what it's meant for but shocked that a Specified XRC would be same stiffness. I figured has to be softer to some degree. I think Can am missed on that. Fit and finish on the sports are hard to beat.
Im gonna say, it's nice having the sport in ways with no trailing arms in some cases the full 15 ground clearance is nice. But imagine Can am passed on this new style rear suspension hanging out back and kept rest the same... And used trailing arms?
That would make this vs all so much tighter. Would it make the xrc sport better? Can't say it would. Get an X3 then. But for my version xmr and xxc , the set up now is awesome for mud and fast trails. I love xrc but think if I was living by the area you guys ride, same unit with trailing arms be better.
As far as northwest and east USA. Not really any whoops so who cares.
I tell everyone that yaps at me on my channel, you guys do this as good as anyone or best, come see your channel!
Now if I see in a crystal ball, I see Deranged Turbo Off-road!
Everyone watching to buy, and can't test drive, this is the best to watch right here!
Thanks again for the support, we’re trying to bring just honest feedback for everyone looking to buy. 👍 -Garrett
@@DerangedOffRoad lol of all things in life that you can't really test drive! But drop big coin on now. I try and do the same and everyone's opinions and feels for everything are so different. So we ask why not make the perfect machine...? Cause variation and choice are best.
Can't wait to watch rest of the series.
I'm waiting for my man DuneYXZ to chime in and say sell em all and buy a Yamaha!
Any thoughts on long term reliability between the 2? Very very few guys run the krx here but the reliability is supposed to be better ive heard
Both of these have provided almost 3,000 miles of trouble free riding each with the exception of the Maverick Sport. We had to replace a coolant hose on it due to a hole that developed from it rubbing on something.
Great video as always I got the krx 1000 last week she’s a beast I wish the throttle response was more responsive and don’t like really like the drain plugs other than that I love it just not a lot of places to ride it I made a lill video reviewing it can you check it out just go under bead Bargo krx 1000 review and always great video keep them coming
Nice review. The way that windshield blocks that cubby is ridiculous. Maybe you need a set of these for your drains.
derangedoffroad.com/collections/teryx-krx-1000-parts-accessories/products/krx-floor-drains
Thanks man those drains are awesome I will getting me a pair of those
@@DerangedOffRoad I just took my plugs out..... no reason for them. .... I just leave them wide open
Many people do, but the minute you pull out a 10mm socket it’s going down that hole to be lost forever!!
Man I ride my KRX everywhere .......I'm in the midwest so we ride Ride the Royal blue Haspin acres Indiana...... Hatfield McCoys....... I've ridden plenty of tight trails no problem
Annnd with the powder coating which I do with all our fabbed products I can say I hated that about can am. Fit and finish awesome excluding that and the weld splatters on cages etc. My RZR powder coating and what not were always better.
Weld splatter must not be in quality control list for can am. The powder coating they use often is texture black or colours. They are horrible for exterior products, if moisture than even worse. Nothing really matches with it except a can of spray paint. It's thin and cheap although more costly to do usually.
I haven't see Kawasaki coating but if it's like Polaris than its better. Easier to recoat etc.
Front sway bar on does put this xrc on rails more for sure. But all around once you adjust, having it off makes ride overall more plush. Personal preference as to where you ride most. I know where I almost roll my xp1k all the time, and the sport 64s with sways all on doesn't. Pretty impressive.
Thanks for sharing that input.
The apples to oranges comparison comments crack me up. The KRX and XRC are both marketed to target the same people, the same terrain, and at comparable price points. You guys are really showing the differences between the a-arm vs trailing arm rear suspensions. High and low points to each, with the advantage going to the trailing arms IMO. I've owned both. My General would be very comparable to the XRC suspension, and there is only so much you can do when limited to 14" of travel. The Elka shocks helped, but come on, 21" on the rear of the KRX is unbeatable.
So far a great unbiased, subjective review Garrett. Keep up the great work, and hopefully Dave and Joe will do equally as well. This is a great comparison. The Honda is kind of the odd man out but it will be fun to see how the 4 seater compares to the shorter machines.
Exactly correct, I believe these two machines are marketed to people the same way. So your comments are spot on. 👍 -Garrett
I'm the apples to oranges guys and that comment is in regards to the rear suspensions! 😉
All good that’s the point of these videos. Open discussion on these topics really help those looking for the right machine. 👍 -Garrett
Which one would you prefer Can am X XC or KRX 1000?
X-RC is a fun little ripper and plenty capable but the KRX is much more comfortable and capable. For where we ride, I’d go KRX. -Joe
Where did you get the storage box in the back of the RC?
Home Depot. It’s a husky box with the wheels removed.
How did you secure it to the bed?
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Your trails are like a town rd compared to the trails her in the east ! Omg
Different kind of riding brother. There’s a reason people travel from around the world to ride in Moab and not West Virginia… -Joe
I know Moab is considered to be the Mecca of off roading. I would like to know how many people travel to each area. I've been to Moab, absolutely beautiful country, but totally different from the east. It's hard to compare trail riding in Utah to trail riding in W.Va. I think you've done a great job in trying to point that out. With Hatfield McCoy trail system being within a days drive from highly populated areas, the participation late should be high. I think most riders and drivers don't get to experience desert conditions, so they travel far to do it. Many of the people riding Utah may be from W.Va. and points East. Your comment could be taken in a backhanded way. Whatever machine you choose baring a catastrophe, it will last longer in Utah than it will riding anywhere in the East. Keep up the good work and keep on keeping on.
Is your Krx a four seater? Long wheel base makes a big difference in ride!
A four seater KRX has not come out yet. 👍
Also depends on drivers aswell,, I've drivin both machines I tend to like the sport xrc much better... I own a 2019 maverick xrc rr, and it's in a whole different league than any of them..
What windshield is on that XRC?
It's the can am power flip windshield
Not a fair comparison IMO. The KRX vs. X3 RC would be much better. That RC is in the Sport line and not the X3 line. Amazing difference between the suspension, riding position, HP, width, ground clearance in the RR. After watching your dislikes, he wants an X3. 🍻 enjoy your content.
I would have to disagree. These are both pushed has rock crawlers, close to same hp and made to do a lot of the same things. The suspension setup really is different so I get that. I really like the X3 line though. Thanks for watching 👍 -Garrett
Deranged Off-Road I’d have to agree with the way you phrased your response. 😀. My thinking is that there is a night and day difference between X3 & Sport xRC’s. I really think he’d be much happier with the base 120HP X3 X RC to keep the price closer to the sport line.
Good point and maybe Dave will chime in here. 👍
We've just sold our Commander after four seasons of riding. During that time I changed to Elka shocks and put a XTP sway bar on..big improvement in ride. But still a Commander! We feel KRX is just to big of a car. Thinking the XRC will ride better than our old car??
Then the commander? Yes by far will ride way better! 👍
Interesting comparison video where you barely show the KRX. I see far more of the Talon in this....
That’s because I own the KRX and have done tons of vids on it. I have been able to have the XRC for a few weeks to do my review of that machine. -Garrett
i agree he must work for can am
When Kawasaki comes out with a turbo krx, I'll have my name on one. :)
is KRX not in same category is mavericks?
Please explain?
Talon or krx?
In a two seater KRX hands down.
Learn the difference between "then" and "than" and when to use each.
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6ft 3 and i dont fit in a xrc is why we got a krx!!
Hey same here. I ordered a krx cause I sat in one. I heard the x3 is smaller. More power. I just hope the krx has enough power how is the power for you
Going this week to get one wondering what one is best for a 6ft 7” guy?
My opinion is they both fit tall guys pretty well. The KRX is easier for a big guy to get into. However the dead pedals are kind of weird. Cabin space is good in the KRX. Once you get in the xrc I think the foot space is better, but the cabin space is smaller. Go check them both out.
-Dave
If your tall and skinny, both are pretty roomy. If your tall and ummmm... not skinny, The KRX is better and the cab in the X RC is pretty narrow.
With that said, the dead pedal in the KRX is not good. I have a 36” inseam and my left leg was never comfortable. Plenty of room for the right leg though. There is plenty of room in the KRX to move the seat back if you want to mod it though.
Both are awesome rigs. -Joe
The Honda's suspension is dated.. its stability of the wheel base
I get that you are testing the machines you guys have.. but as for suspension In the whoops an comparing machines.. the can am xrc is not a fair comparison to the competition.. there full size large chassis machines.. try the x3 X rc.. full size can am rock machine..
Sorry but I have to disagree. These machines are marketed to people the same, built for trails and for rocks. They both run different suspension to do it , but still in the same category. I have heard so many say the KRX shouldn’t be marketed as a sport machine because it’s to slow compared to the X3 or something similar. I just feel these two stack up better to each other then people think in my opinion. 👍 -Garrett
Ronnie Parker you are 100 % , it’s a no brainer
65 “
They deliberately mapped the krx to be a dog taking off to extend belt life.. it can be re mapped
Try new tires
Neither the OG maverick is a 2012 base why pay top dollar for a old machine outdated technology with a new stickers??
Yeah, I think you would need to take it out Dave's way. The spring kit does get rid of the chatter, but that is on CanAm for not selling it stock like that. Are you rock crawling in "Eco" mode? That drastically changs throttle response. I think on the RC that should be rock mode. If you guy mostly ride whoopy trails then the RC is the wrong car. Then again Utah has a lot of variety like AZ. Clearly you guys live near and ride most often at Sand Hallow.
It was in rock mode during the rocks. The whoops are every where riding out to the dunes. We also do a lot of mountain stuff in the summer. We have been trying to get as many miles as we can in each other’s cars. 👍
-Garrett
@@DerangedOffRoad I don't ride with the sway bar off and it does corner very well. I would imagine much better with it on. You are also accustom to driving the way you do in the KRX. My driving style is very different. When I ride with people that have X3's or other big machines, they drive straight down the trail. I tend to drive like I did on the motorcycle picking a line . If you think of it that way, you may end up appreciating each other's ride better, but there is no place like home. I also think of your group, you are the most aggressive driver.
Don't make his head any bigger. He 1000% thinks he's Dale Jr.
-Dave
@@DerangedOffRoad True, my bad. 🤣🤣. But you got the KRX now... take up to Table Mesa and show Garrett how to drive that thing.
AZAdventure I get what you’re saying 👍
Also Dave Dale Jr. didn’t win enough for me to be like him.
Great video-but the XRC was specifically designed and constructed for rocky terrain and clearing obstacles. Any time spent on decrying it for not being a decent “woop machine,” would be like comparing how a Jeep does at the Rubicon versus a rally truck attempting the same.
You're correct. We've been very clear in many videos that we didn't expect this machine to perform exceptionally well in the whoops.
Where's the comments on the talon lol
Sorry Northeast
If can-am wasn't such a piece a crap - waste of a good engine.
I'll disagree with you on that. The Maverick Sport is far from crap
I’ve had a can-am commander for 9 years with zero engine problems and few repairs ever needed. That’s why I’ll go with can-am again. Most likely the sport Xrc