My Thoughts On The Cummins R2.8 Crate Engine
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- čas přidán 4. 11. 2018
- What do I think about the #Cummins Repower R2.8 Turbo Diesel crate engine? Rich Bosch talks to Cummins Steve to learn all about it!
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Should we buy one?
DEBOSS GARAGE why not?
You buy it & I'll donate my 88 Toyota 4runner 4x4 for you to use!
You'll need to come to Brockville to get it though!
Buy!!!! Now. Just do it.... I wanna see the insides of this one
Nice motor. Thinking you could find something to put that in. Too bad you never won that one at the seminar
Does it require def and the other smog related equipment
I like the guy your interviewed real obvious he's not there just for a paycheck
when he first said, this is my baby..I rolled my eyes. But quickly, I realized it wasn't the typical sales hyperbole and that that guy truly had a passion for his company and brand. Refreshing :)
@@thatclintguy and is being paid for it!
Hes the same guy that did stuff with fred from Dirt every day. Guy knows everything about his baby lol
@@sailingjacobe He's from my city. Nice guy.
hes there for the discounts lol
Wow Cummins actually likes seeing engine swaps with their engines and love aftermarket that's surprising
This engine was made for swapping
We'll tbh honest Ram's are just just expensive engine crate's
Hi have a nice day lol
@@hihaveaniceday9386 😂😂👍👍💯
Jokey Jesus they’re not a automaker they literally just make engines, and I doubt they’re a fan of all the 5.9 and 6.7 abuse
I like that Cummins embraces the after market. They make their engines with half capable power and after market fills in the rest. You can choose to have the engine super reliable or super fast. Even in the middle.
"We'll AvE it" Legendary.
Those crazy canuks
Ha, Uncle Bumblefuck is everywhere.
When pronouncing "AvE," do u guys pronounce each individual letter like he did ("a-v-e") or pronounce it like Ave ("ah-vey") ?
@@kadenwatt2033 I wonder the same thing...
@@kadenwatt2033 I say all three letters, since it's an acronym for Arduino versus Evil.
Guy you interviewed was awesome and company's need to hire more people like him. Dude actually is interested in these engines and does not put on a creepy marketing elevator pitch and smile.
Yeah i want to see an AvE tear down deboss style.
this is the colab we need
Send AVE an engine!!!
Would love to see an AvE collab
Deboss and AvE would be awesome!!! Best idea ever haha. I hope you guys are listening..we're talking youtube gold here ;)
Would be tough because no one has seen AvE on camera, yet.
That guy is actually really cool, most guys like that are just reading off a stat sheet
You should get one because I want one...so get it and I'll live vicariously through your channel. Please and thank you.
I actually got an internship with them this upcoming summer where I’ll be workin on these and I’m so pumped
Fucking props man, send me any spare 5.9 blocks they need to "dispose" of lol
U
Congratulations
If you could hook me up with a 4bt or a 12 valve I will love you forever😂
Send 5.9's or 3.9's in place of postcards
Replace the engine in a Ford Ranger 4x4 with this thing.
Luke Cressionie do you know anyone who has done this?
@@davidfelter3552 There are some guys on CZcams that have replaced their 3.0 V6 Ranger with a similar size Kubota turbo diesel.
I have a 3.0v6 manual 4x4.. It needs this upgrade. I want to keep it 4x4 and still have freeway capabilities.. 100mph is a good start..
That would be sweet. The 4.0L is gutless towing and very bad on gas
@@workingcountry1776 ehh.. The 4.0 isnt amazing, but its more than the 3.0 ever was. Especially the sohc.. But those have some issues to contend with as well. Like, fore, and aft timing chains. The engine has to be pulled (or you might as well) to reach the rear chain assembly.. This little diesel is gear driven soo..
I did all of the calibration development on that engine for the crate program. It's a pretty neat little engine.
This may be a question you cant answer, but do you know if Cummins is making a 6 cyl version of this motor under their crate engine program?
do they require DEF ?
@@TheSmreeder TheSmreeder No I doubt it would require DEF to operate. You can like every other Engine with Emissions compliance bullshit just run without it and delete it easily enough.
How hard would it be to program cruise control into it ? I keep hearing about people trying to adapt cruise control but it's a drive by wire system so how hard would it be to put it in the ECU and tap in some momentary switches ?
@@charliebardo6255 you could honestly probably do a standalone system with a servo that pulls the throttle. Ford did that all throughout the mid to late 90s
If you BOLTR, they will come.
So good to see cummins supporting the aftermarket!!
1:18 A skid factory shirt! Man i love those guys, glad to see other fans
Got mine in March last year. Installed in a ‘99 TJ. Love it.
What transmission you have? I have a 2003 tj with the manual 5spd
Would love to have one in a 96 OBS f150 4x4 to run around in. That would be awesome. Imagine the fuel mileage! Especially after its tuned. Love the channel
I came across this engine in a youtube video dropping it in an old CJ. Fell in love with this things possibilities at first sight. Granted its $9k... But it's a turn-key create --- a big bill.... but worth the time saved attempting to part something on your own!
I like your videos. I appreciate when you go into common problems of mass produced motors.
Great vid guys, would love to see you guys get your hands on a 2.8 and make it a project. Cheers
I liked the nod to one of my all time favorite CZcamsrs AvE. This motor looks like a fun motor for one of those WHY THE HELL NOT??? projects.
With Cummins Steve and sema you basically did an episode of dirt every day without Fred and Dave.
Lol they just needed to break something and it would be just like DeD.
Lol very similar except this is actually on CZcams and DeD isn't any more.
Josh The Tooldude hell yeah
You animal you 👍🏻
Ohhh, yeah! Love to see you with the 2.8!
I really REALLY want one of those in my 93 dakota
I have this engine in my pickup with a 18 speed Roadranger adapted to it!
this guy reminds me of my neighbor hes always sitting outside drinking a beer and all he does is laugh and smile at everyone and thing. pretty sure he stays drunk and high lmao.
Rich sounds like me talking on the phone, “Ok......ok.....ok, hahaha, right on......ok....ok.” Love it, keep it up. I learn about dirty rod knock diesels through your channel. It’s awesome 😀
My Colorado 2.8 Duramax is safely tuned to 230hp and 440tq to the wheels. Cummins are fantastic engines, but I'm glad I have what I have. 40k miles so far, zero problems. (Deleted as well)
That's impressive. How much did that all cost, and what mpgs are you getting ?
Aaron Humphrey I don’t have one so I can’t vouch for that specific application, but I will say I deleted my 6.7 power stroke and it made a HUGE difference. Gained almost 200 hp and 300 ft lb torque, runs cooler, and best of all is the mpg. I went from 12-13 mpg average to 18-19 mpg average. And I drive like an asshole. So I could imagine someone could at least get 20-24 mpg if driving conservatively. Point being, it’s totally worth it. For my truck it was like $2000 to delete and tune it and put on an aftermarket air intake. And since I drive around 450-500 miles a week, it paid for itself in saved fuel costs very quickly.
It’s a VM diesel.. they have been hit and miss
Will Vaughan You got 90% of those results from the tuning, not the deletes.
@@Icutmetal my 1.9 tdi runs 200 hp and 400 nm haha almost 1 litre less
Sweet looking engine! I remember having mixed feelings when I heard that this was being produced. On the one hand, it's about damn time we saw a small displacement (less than 4.0 litres) diesel engine. I hope to see more offered for the USA................
so many possibilities with this engine, boy do i want one
Yes get one! Love to see you do a build with one.
Glad to have hopefully helped!
Cummins R2.8 Tahoe V2?! Awesome engine.. super comprehensive kit for sure.
Subaru justy+ Cummins = justcummin
It's a Justins
lmfao that is great
Cumminty.
No Subaru outback
A Justyfied cummins
Lol love that. "We'll just ave it". That guy is awesome!
My favorite auto related channel... and yes you should buy one. We can install it in my 97 CR-V.
Awesome !!!! Definitely want to know more about deleting the emissions crap. I've got a 52 military jeep I want to put one in
Guys donate ,so these guys can get 1or 2 .I would LOVE to see these guys do one or two up.
I love Cummins.
Maybe an investment group?
Skid Factory T shirt at 1:19 still feeling the love. Al would have on of those engines in a micro car by lunchtime with enough Lemon Squashes.
That AvE reference, i'm here for it.
Man, that would be a nice conversion for an early 50's Chevy pickup! It would run rings around the original 216 or 235 stovebolt gas burner, plus get fantastic mileage if you left it stock and maybe put a 6 speed O.D. trans. in it.😉👍👍
There is a classic truck dealer near me who has a bunch of ford F100s and F250s that would be great with this swap. I'd like one in an international scout.
@little monster For the engine with bolt-on accessories (water pump, p.s. pump, alt, etc.) you're looking around $8400 (no trans)
Awesome! The R2.8 has more torque than the 400 in my '79 F250!! The wheels are spinning.....
Another great vid rich!
Absolutely love this channel
I have been looking for a swap for my 82 Tercel, and this would be awesome to put in it!
These engines are awesome.
They are also available in the Foton Tunland.
Studding the top and bottom end would be really great for extra reliability.
Was toying with the idea with compounds and adding a S300 or HX40 low pressure unit and keeping factory HE221W with 76mm exhaust.
Also adding an air-to-water intercooler as a secondary intercooler.
Here we have really high temperatures in summer.
ECM software still needs finetuning. Or at least on mine.
I have opened up one of these isf 2.8 engines. Ate #1 conrod bearing and broke piston #3 compression ring.
Really simple to work on with really beefy connecting rods and crank.
With a S360 BW, should be good for towing, maybe in a shortbed reg cab ram? Love my 5.9 but want MPGs
In Australia it's probably cheaper to buy the Foton and strip it, that way you get all the cooling package and other accessories, harnesses needed for a proper build.
Rich, Luv these - packed w/info
Thanks for sharing this video 👏👏👏 truckers greetings from Portugal
These 2.8s are so cool, i just wish they would release a larger one more suited for a one ton dually.
Whats wrong with a 5.9?
@@pennywisetheclown9090 you cant have servicability, mechanical fans, and stock body height on a pre-1987 chevy dually without tubbing the firewall relocating ac, and/or triming the frame
Ok that changes things. You did not specify your build. All you said was a dually, must be enough room for a perkins
4.5 cummins fellas
That Volvo Amazon with the cummins is so sexy!!!
Id love to have that in a 740 wagon
@@unuseableb once I have enough to buy a engine I want to swap my 240!
Was waiting for this vid.. buy it!!! Boost it to the moon!
Were going diesel in a 1952 Plymouth Cranbrook and this one could be a perfect option, now off to look up the Cummins site.
Skookum as frig
This will go nice in my 1977 IH Scout II, backed by an NV4500.
I have finally been IMPRESSED, R2.8, THANX.
Wow I'm lovin' this. I'm thinking the R2.8L as a replacement for my 4.6L in my '03 Ford Crown Vic with an upgraded 6 or 8 speed auto transmission. That should be more than enough for everyday driving and driving in the intermountain west.
I want one in my datsun 620,
R2.8: 500 lbs. 161 hp, 310 lb-ft. Original 6BT in Dodge trucks: 1,100 lbs, 160 hp, 400 lb-ft I'd love to put one of these in my 91 Dakota that has the gutless 3.9(gas) in it. Would just seem right to put that Cummins badge on a Dodge truck.
thebluebumblebee
Ever drove a ve pump 5.9 ? Those are horribly slow like barley able to keep up with traffic type of slow. Even as the years went on a 325hp 5.9 isnt fast. I would never buy one of these if you where looking to make any power. Thats never going to happen. Seems like a great engine that will last forever but I personally couldnt drive one.
The 3.9 in the 87 - 91 Dakota's were not very powerful. 125 hp and 195 ft-tq. This would be a good Improvement. Probably get 30+ mpg too.
A 2nd gen Dakota rclb lifted with one of these 2.8L CTD. Get +30mpg highway and have a reliable daily for the rest of eternity. The perfect build 👌
Doesnt the 3.9 v6 weigh close to 500 pounds as well? The answer would be oviously yes it would be good lol
Except a pair of pliers can fix a 12v on the side of the road and you need a laptop for the 2.8 plus ve pump trucks can hit like 400 h.p with tweaks or slap in a ppump and win at life 4bt is the same engine just smaller it's simplicity at it's best
BOLTR AvE reference! I loved it!!
Hey Rich. Was awesome meeting you at Sema. Please 2.8 swap the Tahoe 😍
By far the most expensive option VS any other common swap for my TJ. Realizing this was really depressing.
This would be cool in my 4X4 Chevy Astro van
Loving my Cummins
Always
Please do! I will one day do a cummins swap of my own. ill stick with my 07 2500 for now though.
You have the ability to do it and to do it in a way that no one else probably would think of.
I would help get the word out about this engine. Ive been looking at it for a year now wanting one!
A good replacement swap in a Perkins Diesel Ranger, or any small pickup that may or may not have had a Diesel option to begin with. Maybe you got a compact car, this thing should work great in it too, essentially doubling MPG in an already fuel sipping car. Maybe Toyota will wake up and smell the Diesel, for the next gen Prius hybrids.
I have been looking at putting one of these in my 99 Dakota any suggestions I do light hauling with it . I would like to convert to a manual transmission too
Why manual?
Would love to see the 60 series!
I would love to have one of these in my Tacoma.
Man, I'd love to see some other manufacturers do this. Or maybe get a few of them together and get a law passed that if an engine meets a sufficiently high standard (say Euro5) it is accepted to the US as an on-road replacement or repower option.
Isuzu has a number of solid diesel engines that are just begging for swaps, but since most never got certified for light duty, it's basically impossible to get them to pass emissions in anything smaller than a box truck.
I wanna put one in a chevette. 🤣
That cummins guy loves his product.
Dellacondan he probably lost his job after going on camera advocating for somebody to manipulate the power and emissions through calibration changes. Cummins takes that stuff very seriously and would not like having an employee tell somebody they should do it.
Rail Fan Guess you didn’t hear him a mention that it was a pre-emissions vehicle.
Wow that’s one guy from Cummins
I like hearing !
@0.00-0.35.....Goes to show you how focused I was...Didnt even notice the hot babes in the frame and was wondering what he meant by "Keep your eyes up here"??
I would love to replace my 22re with one of these.
22re great engine tho
@@lollol-xp4mc I have to agree..
Yeah! A 80's or 90's toy 4 x!
That's my plan toyota 1994 4x4 4Runner. Just need to figure what would be the best match up for a transmission. Anyone have any suggestions?
@@ValentinArzola Speaking as a mech
The R150F/151 is a very strong transmission from Toyota. It would quite happily support a 6BT if it needed too. Good gearing too.
When I saw the title of the video my first thought was... I bet that would be great in my jeep. I guess I wasnt the only one.
Loving the skid factory shirt 😆
Nice idea but its a little expensive, out on the West Coast of BC where I'm from that little engine would be a good candidate for marine use like sailboats or small cruisers where your doing a little over hull speed your after fuel economy.
Precisely my thoughts
What do you think cummins built it for? It has been sold as the 2.8isf for years in the marine industry. It's cummins answer to the VM 2.8 orginally in the jeep libby crd and now in the gm little pickups. It also started out as a marine engine. The VM has sleaves and main bearing carriers. Un-sure about those on the cummins.
Throw this in my Xterra, I live in Ohio so no worries on emissions🤟🏼
Excellent.
I need one for my ranger!!
I wanna see one in a tracker...
I've got a 94 4x4. Hard top. Would be a good candidate
You just wanna see it do stoppies.
You should put the big willys in the intro...
Biggest Willy at Sema?
Very curious to see the pros and cons first hand. Debating on a 4bt ot a 2.8 in my 48 chevy 3100 jeep jk cross breed 👍
Let us know if you get one Rich!
Cheers from Tx
They built that here in my area! The big willy!
How well does that engine run on veggie oil compared to the 4BT?
Not well due to it being a common rail. Fuel system tolerances are a lot higher
will this work in a 1972 c10 short bed?
Easily......
That handshake was firm 😤
Love how Steve’s talking about chucking 1 in a 79 I can go to my local Toyota dealer and order a brand new 79 with a v8 diesel and could more than likely buy it right off the showroom floor
Pre-emissions.
Mercury sells a marinised version of this engine.
What's the difference. I know marine companies love the Detroit 6.5
Would this be a viable swap from a 4.7L V8 Land Cruiser 100 series/ LX470?
check out dieseltoys.
Justified Cummins. Nice!
Been considering this Cummins engine or the Duramax 2.8 for my Astro 4x4 van.
I was so excited about these before they came out, but they are VERY expensive. I'll just have to be happy with a junkyard LS.
William Decoteau give it a couple years they always are initially.
Just buy a 6bt off some old farmer who knows jack about Diesel's
@Don Olypopper I'm sure it is, but I was wanting to put it in a truck that's not even worth $1500. And you're correct, I'm not a diesel head, only experience I have is my TDI VW.
@Don Olypopper Thanks!
Don im a diesel person and I think 10k for just a engine is too expensive I dunno maybe it's from being poor and working my best to afford what I have not everyone can justify 8-10k for a project when a ls is what 1,500 or less and the parts are cheaper to work on it
2.8 Duramax from GM is 181hp and 369 lb/ft. I'm surprised the output from these isn't higher in stock trim.
One will make it to a million miles. One will be junked long before.
Durmax is crappy Cummins is taking over going into everything Even Chevy/GMC
SWEEET 👍 👍, THANK YOU
Haha AVE. Long live Canada! Love from your NA neighbor.
Wouldn't this be a perfect motor for a Scout II?
tommyb211222 no. Scouts are heavy AF. These don’t have enough HP
@@railfan8895 odd because the very first 2.8 off the line went into a scout... Lol.
Robert844 just because somebody put an engine into a chassis, doesn’t make it a good match.
Secondly, it was most certainly NOT the first 2.8L off of the assembly line. The ISF/QSF engines have been in production for quite a few years prior to the crate engine offerings.
@@railfan8895 cummins put the engine in the scout... Look it up, dipshit
Robert844 really? You’re resorting to name calling? Nice.
Is this the Scout you’re talking about? www.dieselworldmag.com/diesel-trucks/new-vintage-a-cummins-powered-scout-800/
Cummins provides the first crate engine kit. That does not mean it was the first 2.8L they manufactured. It was simply the first 2.8L they offered in a kit. The ISF/QSF has been around longer than the engine kit program. I’ve worked on dozens of them. Mostly in forklifts, but I’ve seen them in other applications as well.
Also, Cummins did not install that engine as you are suggesting. The story clearly states the New Legend 4X4 installed the engine.
would this be suitable for a 60's Chevy c10?
For sure, it would be like having a 350 small block.. but with better torque curve.. and get twice the fuel mileage.. with a 6sp automatic I bet you could get close to 30mpg on the highway maybe better
Imo be underpowered... the effort wouldnt be worth it.wouldnt tow much of anything. Remember there's no replacement for displacement
Cheaper to 5.9 it.
@@vmaxes its a 60s half ton, the frame couldnt tow anything to begin with
Yeeea skid factory t-shirt represent💪🏻🇦🇺
Now I can’t decide if I should put this or a 5.2 carbureted in my 99 ram 1500