VelocityOne Flightdeck HOTAS | The Full Review | Everything You Need to Know | Turtle Beach
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2024
- After a week of use, what are my thoughts on this new HOTAS unit from Turtle Beach? Tested in the F18 in Microsoft Flight Simulator.
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Chapters
00:00 Hardware Overview
06:39 Install, Setup & Test
11:05 Config Options
18:00 Support Info
19:00 Setting Up in MSFS
20:58 Flight in F18
26:24 Opinion & Summary
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this was awesome, very detailed, fantastaic work!I really hope that our company's products can also get your evaluation
Excellent review. Well done. Thank you for taking the time to share. Mine was delivered yesterday. Can't wait to dive in. Your video was a great introduction for me.
Well after 2 months how is it?
Cool Flight Stick & Throttle and a great explanation and review SimHanger 🙂
Thanks! 👍
Great review, thanks. Looks perfect for DCS.
I think the best feature on this is the touch screen on the throttle. You can use a Loupe deck for this. But it's kind of nice to have this specialized to a flight sim. Of course, it doesn't seem to be working at the moment. I'm sure it's a driver issue. But they should have worked this out before shipping. After all it's just sending out standard keyboard commands. Virpil is of course a lot more expensive and specialized more toward combat flight sims like DCS world. But WinWing is quite good too and a bit less expensive in this arena.
It needs a default profile. Once there, what a product! Impressive and a little overwhelming. Nice review. Thank you.
Good Review very innovative hardware
I've had one for a few weeks now (pre-ordered). While the hardware is really nice, TB and Asobo need to release full MSFS compatibility and profiles before I'd recommend a purchase. I'm actually debating on returning mine and getting a different HOTAS brand. Even though I've spent a huge amount of time customizing mine for MSFS, I fear that there are issues that might not be overcome. Having said that, thanks for the review!
My rating for it so far is an 'A' for hardware (at least on my example) and a 'D-' on software support.
A bit ludicrous that Turtle Beach couldn't put the effort into preparing profiles before releasing this high-end product
@@jhallockit is a disappointment
How would you rate the feel and sturdiness of this compared to the T16000M, is this actually better? I know it’s still a gimbal system which makes it more prone to wear and tear, I’m just wondering if they came up with a higher quality system or if this will inevitably start getting ghost inputs after a couple of years.
I've set mine up using Lorbys Axis and Ohs (it's paid software, about $30 Aus) Takes some time but you can set it up to do anything, you just have to download the scripts for the aircraft you are using. I also set up a keyboard (because the touch pad is hard coded to keyboard buttons) and with Axhis and Ohs I've programmed the touch pad to turn batteries on and taxi light etc. You can also use Lorbys to assign multiple scripts to the one key, so if you wanted multiple actions after pressing Q on the keyboard (or the hard coded Q on the touchpad) you can. For example you can turn on all batteries and external power at the same time
Good to know, I’ll try it out with SpadneXt in the not too distant future.
We seemed to have set up the controls pretty similar. I use the little axis next to the throttle for speed brakes and use the pinky axis on the stick for brakes. Coming from using a button for brakes it makes a lot of difference
Great review I would like some basic profiles too. Got mine yesterday bit daunting but your review lessened that .
another great review Mark thank you. you always do a very good job 👍. if a company sends you a product to review do you get to keep it or do you have to send it back ? you would end up with a room full of products..LOL.
I appreciate the videos you produce about new products.
Your definition of smooth movement is much different than mine. Just watching you move the stick at the beginning of the video, it looked very stiff and clunky. I sent back the last Turtle Beach velocity flight stick they released because of that. It makes it nearly impossible to fly helicopters with movements like that.
I'll stick with my Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X. It has an adjustable tension nob for the stick and has a very smooth and fluid movement (single fingertip stick movement) and is less expensive.
The movement on this stick is smooth. I also have the Hotas X. It is slightly firmer but a nicer feel in my opinion.
I'm not into flight simulation but my boyfriend watches your videos and I really like listening to your voice. It's very soothing 😊
I can only agree.
He’s like an older wiser Obsidian Ant
I like it because it has buttons and switches on both the flight stick and the throttle. And I love the RGB lighting which goes with my RGB keyboard and RGB Desktop components!
Yes Please. Some Basic profiles would be very helpful and appreciated
yes please they would be great
Great review and very informative. I set my new velocity one hotas up on my pc using your guide. What would be really helpful is a video of how you set up basic controls on msfs. You touched on that but I am an idiot and as such need an idiots guide. So any support would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Mark, Thanks again for the thorough review and demonstrations with your impressions. Can you write a bit more about the "haptics" you called out (at about 4 min in) on the throttle and I believe I heard you also mention there are some type of haptics involved in the stick portion of this HOTAS also but have not been able to find that mention... so maybe I'm conflating....
You can enable a haptic (vibration) on both units. Joystick for moving out side a designated range and throttle for position along main axis etc.
Thank you so much for this video! May I ask what your PC specs are?
I'd love to see a video of you setting these controls for airbus. I have this but unsure on some of the things to set up
A pre config profile for MSFS will be available next update for the V1 flight deck.
Hi Mark, following your review I was tempted. Went to check on Amazon and the reviews are really not good: 2.4/5 as of writing this. Quite a few people mention quality control problems with buttons not working. Perhaps you should pin a comment noting that. I'm really disappointed. Looks really nice. Let's wait and see if things iron out in a few months.
Good callout @thornjord -- the same thing / sentiment on various MSFS Reddit threads, many warning not to touch.
Nice review. I have a Warthog setup which I'm leaving alone but on another rig I have the X52 pro and like playing star citizen on that one. Because of a modifier issue with star Citizen (and also no good curser input button for DCS) I'm really interested in the extra buttons. With the new additions to salvage functions and tractor beam in star citizen I could put them to good use and have everything mapped to the HOTAS. If there was one at a store near by I'd probably go down and get it. One question is do you have to run a software program to use it? Less programs running in the background the better.
I got one of these rather cheap. Beware of the mounting screws that come with this, they are way too long (at least for my mounts) and when screwed in tight, the throttle is blocked..😂 Also, all of the one I have seen had some build quality issues (especially that weird trackpad fire button). When programming these for ED, you have to be careful when assigning buttons, they can be a bit sticky resulting in a button hold rather than a press (gear up/down is the worst). The biggest issue will be the profile support. If no one buys these, they remain niche and we wont see many game profiles. I think TB just overdid themselves a bit. Sometimes less is more.
On that note, the app sucks. All these unrelated social posts. big BS.
Another excellent hardware review, and particularly welcome here as I contemplate replacing my Saitek X-52Pro. The Thrustmaster Warthog is the leading contender, but I must say all the bells and whistles on this Velocity One makes it very tempting. The touchscreen is nice, but I also have a Loupedeck which is serving me very well at the moment. What is really going to decide me is precision and durability - and I get the feeling the Warthog has the edge. Am I right ?
For durability the Warthog wins, no question.
@@SimHangerFS Thanks Mark - that's what I suspected. 👍
wtf are u all kidding me, just get the stecs mini and nxt evo standard for the $400 range hotas, the warthog is trash at this day and age. it's like recommending people to buy a gtx 1080 ti in 2024, obsolete.
@@Napoleonic_S thanks for all the great advice
the biggest problem with this product for me is that it doesnt look like it is compatible with my seat-cockpit rig. I dont use screws and i just use tie-ups/tire-ups to keep my hardware in place on my rig. I cant do that with this set cause it doesnt have holes on each corner. Thats a big con for me. They got most other stuff right but this (not being compatible with current seat-cockpit rigs, not having holes on the edges) probably the reason why it wont do well on the market. The panel also needs to become fully configurable so that we can put there whatever we want and not be limited to just the default settings. Overall this is a great piece of hardware and will wake up the other brands to start making modern and better hotas.
Agreed, the wide base precludes it being used center in a rig.
@@SimHangerFS Wait! i just had an idea! i can use velcro stickers!
Mark, I have been watching your reviews and instructional videos for the past 2 years and have following your suggestions and setups most of the time. I recently purchased the VelocityOne Flightdeck and followed along with some of the setup. On the throttle configurations I have run into issues (probably self induced) but when setting up Throttle Axis in MSFS, I get warnings, for example Throttle 1 Axis, MSFS reports back as Joystick Button 35 (Warning: selected button input is not recommended for this action), this also happens on Throttle 2 Axis and reports as 38.
Am I missing something in setup.
Damn, this is amazing value for money. It'd be perfect if it had force feedback.
The more of these that get out there in peoples hands, the user reviews are going to tank. I've had 3 of them now since release, and the quality control for $400 is abysmal. All of the throttle units had backlights burn out within a week. All the ball gimbals on the sticks felt completely different on all 3 sticks. One was super gritty and would stick, one was so loose in the center it would constantly pitch up until deadzone was added, and the other stick was somewhere in the middle. One hardware bug that seems to have made it into every stick, is the pinky button on the back of the stick will randomly activate the brake lever button. Go into your hardware test for the stick, and rapidly press that button on the back of the grip, you'll see it randomly lighting up the pinky switch button. Hopefully they get the quality control issues worked out (won't hold my breath), but currently, no way I would recommend anyone to purchase this thing for $400. There are way better and less expensive options out there.
If its like their Turtle Beach VelocityOne, the throttle axis wouldnt stay in calibration. It would “lose” its position and would have to be placed in the 0% position and then back into its desired position. Maybe they used different technology on this one.
👍👍👍👍👍
Anyone have educated guesses as to the longevity of this vs. Thurstmaster T16000M / TWCS? I’m finding that my Thurstmaster HOTAS feels kind of worn out after a couple of years, (e.g. the joystick button is very flaky), sometimes I get ghost inputs on the throttle extremities. Does this use a higher quality gimbal?
So many functions and switches so hard to operate easily. Our concentration will be in stick rather than in game. However your review is enjoyable ro watch
I haven't messed with the Super Hornet in MSFS for awhile as I've been in DCS. It was quite jarring to see the Super Hornet instrument panel looking so close yet different to the legacy Hornet. Just my thoughts. Do you use DCS? If so, how did the touch screen fair on that? Also in DCS you can never have too many buttons.
I wish they sold the throttle as separate.
Perhaps by Xmas 2024.
Does it have same issues with non-linear centering forces as its predecessor?
I want one, but they are sold out in the EU or not out yet.
eu.turtlebeach.com/
wonder how this would work for DCS
TB is currently 320 GBP vs 500 for the TM Warthog.
Hardly a fair comparison.
I wish they would make the "higher quality" stuff available for the Xbox. All the Xbox flight sim peripherals are basically cheap crab. Well, maybe not the Honeycomb stuff - but they are more or less out of business.
Honeycomb did a fine job of snatching defeat, from the jaws of victory.
MSFS Boeing and Airbus settings, please
One major failure of all these reviews for this new product is that no one has taken a good look at the bottom of these and shown what, if any, kind of system exists to put these on desk mount brackets.
Pilots are smart, use double stick tape or heavy velcro to the desk mounts
how do you use rudders?
Twist the Flightstick.
Jämfört med X52 pro är det stor skillnad?
More configuration options and better quality in my opinion.
Jag kommer ersätta min x52 pro med den här, så fort den kommer i butik.
@@TENGILL dont understand no word
Good video. However this product looks strange to me. It is clearly made for fighter jets with a HOTAS setup. But it is missing so many buttons. Also the screens looks like a gimmic.
Had mine about a month, and buttons have already stopped working. It is NOT holding up. and the customer support on Chat will flat out tell you that they're not tech support and you have to submit a ticket and wait for a response on any "technical issues"... They took a long time to get back to me with the first problem. and I still haven't heard back on my latest batch of issues. I would NOT recommend this... it will not hold up and the support is VERY slow.
That is disappointing to hear. Mine is still okay, no problems so far.
Lost me immediately when you referred to the Warthog as 'the gold standard'. Maybe 10 years ago, but not now. Would have much rather seen how it stacks up against VKB and Virpil's stuff, which can he had at similar price points.
I have VKB Stecs and Gladiator and I ordered this. It didn’t take long to send this back after I tried it for a bit. It’s not even in the same ballpark as the VKB.
@@jwattie144What differences do you see? Everyone loves VKB, but in my country (Canada) they are imports and much more expensive.
I really liked the design and all but that touch screen is useless for VR.
its for play on PC and monitor , i really like touchscreens , VR i play only few minutes , with monitor i play many hours
No one thinks the warthog is gold standard. Budget sticks in their own line up is better
Ok so some of the features bring this peripheral into the smart age, but it still seems very overpriced, considering built materials and sensor type etc.
Too expensiveIt reminds me of a set that I have bought one I have abandoned long ago !
Would have been $40 less and far better for vr if they didn't have the touch panel.
No buy!!!!! Is broken after 2 days!!!!
Touch screens are useless in VR.
They’re completely useless regardless
and ?? its not made for VR , VR is anyway shit , you can play few minutes than you are motion sickness
@@kralkrauterblach414 that’s a you problem, me and plenty of others don’t have motion sickness.
@@kralkrauterblach414 - I play for hours with no motion sickness.
Shit range of motion
Not worth $400 😂
I'd say a good $250 at best brother
I'm not even in the market for something like this, but, look at the competition. It's worth more than the X56, just by not being the X56. Just say you're poor and move on.
@@dev1360 hahahahaha haha! Mmmhmmm your salt is delish! Shall I sprinkle it on my x52, my full winwing set up with the shaker kit, my paid for car, or the house I own. Hmmmmmmmm. Nah, I'll keep this gem to remind me there always some ass making ass-umptions and all to happy to show off like you have point to prove. Oooooo! No I'll sprinkle it on the 5 separate racing set ups I've gotten in pursuit of finding software I really vibe with for the Sims I use. That or on the one I got for my kiddo to start racing. Point is, be silent child, the adults are speaking. Just for that, $150 🤣👌
@@looneyhoonzinc damn, you're really insecure, and also making a lot of assumptions lol
@@dev1360 nah, just factual. Anyway. I'm off to better conversations.
No helicopter controls! SAD