Will it Stay on the Track? | Dapol N Gauge A4 | Unboxing & Review

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    I decided to try another Dapol N gauge steam locomotive, to see if it worked any better than the Britannia from a few weeks ago, here's what happened!
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    0:00 Intro
    2:39 Unboxing
    7:38 Prototype Info
    8:58 Detail
    16:15 Mechanism
    20:43 Performance
    25:35 Haulage
    31:26 Ratings
    35:32 Final Thoughts
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Komentáře • 202

  • @azuma892
    @azuma892 Před 3 dny +37

    I have had one of these since 2019. I'm pleased to report my example does stay on the track, and there are no visible glue marks, but the side rods keep falling off and the loco to tender wires had broken away two times, now the tender wheels are doing all the picking up. I vow never to get a Dapol N gauge tender steamie ever again. ☹
    It's still my favourite N gauge loco, I'm too much of a Gresley simp. 😆

    • @jackstrains4468
      @jackstrains4468 Před 3 dny +5

      Me too😅😅 I really love the a4s and generally the lner and gresley locos!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny +9

      Good stuff - yes this one stays on true! Ahh annoying about those issues though - not good!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

    • @ShibaInYourWalls
      @ShibaInYourWalls Před 3 dny +5

      I had one too, my main issue was the driveshaft did fall out and was a pain to reposition. It's a cute loco, but a little frustrating.

  • @Elvinley
    @Elvinley Před 3 dny +11

    Good to see another N gauge review Sam, but these are very old now and have been bettered quite dramatically. You will find that each and every Dapol tender loco uses the same mechanism. Farish tender locos are completely different, but some are still tender drive such as the Black 5. I would recommend a Castle, Duchess, C Class, N Class, Merchant Navy Etc from Farish - all loco drive. I have had lots of these A4s over the years and there are one or two issues to look out for and improvements that can be made.

  • @JimmyProductions
    @JimmyProductions Před 3 dny +19

    Thank you for doing some more n scale models! I model in n scale, and I also live in the USA. I like to watch these reviews so that way I know I don't waste my money and time.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny +2

      It's a pleasure - this one was much more enjoyable! Glad you liked the video,
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @mikeuk1954
    @mikeuk1954 Před 3 dny +10

    Hi Sam.
    When you were running across the points, there was a distinct bump over them. I suggest looking at the frog area. It needs fettling.
    Great review.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny +2

      Thanks Mike - I will look into that!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @jackstrains4468
    @jackstrains4468 Před 3 dny +11

    Ah, a good old a4 - even at the smaller scale the loco looks amazing! I personally think the 00 gauge ones look much better, but considering the size, this is quite impressive! Those little etched details are record breaking commemorative plates that go on the sides of the loco, in case you were wondering! Easily my favourite class of loco, especially the garter blue mallard - just got a NRM exclusive glossy mallard, and it's incredible! Great video as always sam, and im always a sucker for the good old a4!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny +1

      Thanks Jack I think so too! Yes I'd say I prefer the OO ones as they're much more substantial - but I think this is pretty much as good as you could hope for in N scale!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

    • @John-Tropi
      @John-Tropi Před 2 dny +2

      ​@@SamsTrains: It might be "Pretty much as good as you could hope for in N scale! (sic)",
      but in N GAUGE, from the likes of Arnold, Fleischmann, Kato, Minitrix and Roco, I have NEVER suffered any such issues.😀

  • @Locomattive8572
    @Locomattive8572 Před 3 dny +10

    Sam you have to stop thinking N Gauge is Cheaper because it’s smaller. The prices tend to match OO equivalent. This is especially true of Graham Farish / Bachmann.
    Whether it should be, is a different question.
    One other thing. Try a 1980s made Minitrix. There terrible for accuracy and mechanisms are really complicated. But they just work so well, and tend to have working lights. They put most modern N Gauge to shame on reliability

    • @aleopardstail
      @aleopardstail Před 3 dny +2

      I can see locomotives being a similar price, smaller and more intricate stuff afterall. rolling stock however
      agree on Minitrix, I used to have a "class 27 (ish)" locomotive, easily the most reliable I had

    • @Aina_Nightfall
      @Aina_Nightfall Před 2 dny +1

      i ordered a Kato D51 for just under 60€ somedays ago for a steam engine its a pretty good price. You can get really good Kato and Tomix Diesel and Electric ones for 35-45€ too

  • @FormallyknownasE100
    @FormallyknownasE100 Před 3 dny +2

    The round etches are for the speed record plaques.
    A fun A4 fact is they only have sand pipes for the forwards direction. Therefore on a railway like the NYMR they can struggle a fair bit in reverse if the railhead is wet/greasy.

  • @nathanward9865
    @nathanward9865 Před 3 dny

    I have one of these, it’s excellent.
    I had an issue early on where I’d accidentally misaligned the front wheels. Check that you’ve got them attached and aligned correctly and you’ll have a very reliable loco.
    Great that it runs on R1 curves too, I can easily run mine through a big snake of points with no issues.

  • @iansngauge
    @iansngauge Před 3 dny

    Hi Sam! Great to see you doing more N gauge! I don't think anyone in N gauge likes these tender driven locos, as they're notoriously unreliable! I'm also surprised it went over the S curve in the setrack points crossover, as that's a particularly tricky maneuver for a such a long loco with those large fixed wheels! I've got one of Dapol's new A4's on pre-order, but I'm not sure what tooling it uses - hopefully something significantly newer than from 2012! Keep the N gauge stuff coming! It's always interesting to get a perspective from someone who's predominantly modelled in OO! All the best, Ian.

  • @Samuussman
    @Samuussman Před 3 dny +4

    Sam, your British OO modeling biases keep showing in these N scale reviews. It would be nice to see you approach these models from a more N-scaler perspective.
    A few pointers:
    - Plastic vs. metal: at this scale, plastic allows for better and finer detailing than metal.
    - Weight: light weight is a non-issue for modern mechanisms and shouldn't be part of a review. Most Japanese N scale MU motor wagons weight between 60 and 80 gr and can easily move a 12-car train. Tractive power in N mostly depends of the number of powered axles.
    - Traction tires: they are a standard on worldwide N scale since decades. There is nothing wrong with them. Stop complaining about them ;)
    - Details: N scale can pack an incredible amount of details. Chinese N scale locomotives often feels like miniature H0 models due to the amount and finesse of their details with metal handrails and incredibly legible prints.

  • @shadowmaster8684
    @shadowmaster8684 Před 3 dny

    I love the detail in the thumbnail of having just 2 fingers reaching for the model instead of a whole hand

  • @michaelderozario5626
    @michaelderozario5626 Před 3 dny

    I have one of these A4’s. Fantastic looking loco and I’ve made a few improvements. Firstly a coreless motor, a Hornby tts sound decoder and speaker which all fits in the tender. The finish I improved by spraying with a gloss lacquer which has dried to a lovely sheen bringing out the colour and fine details which now ‘pop’. Runs beautifully.

  • @SomeGuynamedOtto
    @SomeGuynamedOtto Před 3 dny

    lovely video excited to watch

  • @willdobson7351
    @willdobson7351 Před 3 dny +1

    N Gauge! Yes, Sam!! You are finally coming round. :)

  • @phantomxt2009
    @phantomxt2009 Před 12 hodinami +1

    I have 5 A4s and 3 A3/A1's and 3 B1's. All have had minor quibble issues over the years, but all easily fixed and when these are upgraded with a Tramfabriek Coreless Motors and Zimo MS Sound Decoders, completely different locomotive. All My Dapol Tender Locos get a motor replacement, Tender Wires Replacement, Zimo MS Series Sound Fitment and the front bogies screws get adjusted to ensure they track as some are too loose or too tight from the factory, which is what your britannia is suffering. The Dapol 5 Pole Super Creep Motor is the worst part of these locos, too loud and not powerful enough. The whole upgrade process takes me 30 mins from start to finish and I have a model then that runs flawlessly, sounds great and provides enjoyment
    Maybe do a video on upgrading these locos to 2024 Standard (Coreless Motor, DCC Sound, etc) and then compare to an unmodified loco vs a modified loco

  • @limehuzki
    @limehuzki Před 3 dny +1

    Im actually getting into n scale ^^ id love to see more.
    Currently im secretly building a train setup with kato track in my work locker

  • @TrentFalkenrath
    @TrentFalkenrath Před 3 dny +2

    Yay, more N-scale stuff!

  • @zippy5131
    @zippy5131 Před 3 dny +1

    I've just repaired a Dapol 57XX for a club member as it ran very badly. The problem is the electrical pickups being the wheel shoulders in the bearings getting covered in oil on the loco. Some Isopropynol and jobs a good 'un, I've used a little silicon grease on the gears and it runs beautifuly. Careful of too much oil.

  • @AlongPreservedLines
    @AlongPreservedLines Před 3 dny +2

    Good review Sam, this is a pretty nice model, ignoring the tender driveshaft mechanism causing some problems... I don't model N Scale but having something like this would be really special on a N Scale layout, you can't go wrong with an a4! - The Monster of Monsters

  • @AnimatedIsaac
    @AnimatedIsaac Před 2 dny

    Great review sam! I’m impressed by its performance on the setrack points considering they are minimum 2nd radius locos and setrack points are 1st.

  • @Luc-N-scale
    @Luc-N-scale Před 3 dny +1

    Sam, I've searched your channel but I could not find any other trains than UK models. Did you ever tested a Fleischmann, Piko or a Minitrix loco (N-scale 1:160) I wonder how these brands would stand the tests you do.

  • @adamwilliams192
    @adamwilliams192 Před 3 dny +1

    I think I said under the Britannia review, but to my knowledge all Dapol tender locos have the same basic drive mechanism. When they started to do this many people questioned it, and the trade off to achieve more detail on this A4 over, say, the old Graham Farish design, seems a bit steep to me.
    Just a note; the couplings in the first accessory bag are a pair of Dapol’s own “Easy Shunt” magnetic opening couplings.
    They can be made to work very well for remote uncoupling and it’s a shame that most Dapol models no longer come with them.
    I would urge you to try some of Dapol’s Diesels (I have class 27, 56, 58 and 121) as they are good models. Oh and the HST as well.
    For comparison, Graham Farish do many steam locos, with none of their tender locos using a drive shaft (it’s a mixed bag of tender and loco drives).
    Great to see you continuing with N gauge.

  • @briandesens144
    @briandesens144 Před 3 dny +1

    Awesome video Sam's trains 😊

  • @MQ-11-
    @MQ-11- Před 2 dny

    Thanks - It's good to see some N scale reviews! Would love to see a review of the dapol M7 you bought. In my experience I've found that those Peco settrack points in that configuration will upset almost anything that isn't an 0-6-0 or a diesel, so it's impressive the A4 handled them so well. If you want a recommendation for a really good locomotive in N - try and get hold of a Farish SECR N or SECR C class, they are excellent models and the cab detail is on another level, especially on the C. I'm really hoping that we'll get another round of the Farish C class produced in future.

  • @jamesdunloptrains
    @jamesdunloptrains Před 3 dny

    Awesome video today Sam I got to come home today from hospital and your wagons are amazing

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny +1

      Sorry to hear you've been at hospital - but so glad you like the wagons!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @paulsullivan3291
    @paulsullivan3291 Před 2 dny

    Thanks!

  • @chrissouthgate4554
    @chrissouthgate4554 Před 3 dny +2

    Artist books will tell you that something further away looks flatter. Thus smaller N gauge locos (more distant) will look duller than bigger OO Logos (closer). It might be worth placing a OO & N loco at a distance where they appear to be the same size & comparing their look. It would be even better if you can include a photo of the real thing.

  • @Michaelgoestofrance
    @Michaelgoestofrance Před 3 dny

    I like it when you review something other than OO, Sam. I've got nothing against OO but it's not my personal scale of choice.

  • @johnscarsandstuff
    @johnscarsandstuff Před 7 hodinami

    Hi Sam, nice to see another N gauge review. I was impressed with how the A4 coped with those set track points, did it state the minimum radius on the packaging or instructions?
    My biggest beef with Dapol tender locomotives is the lack of consistency. My first was either a Manor, sold under the Ixon brand, or a B1. Both were "bargain bin" locos, I don't think they were more than £40 each and they were (and still are) great runners. Off the back of those, I bought two more B1s and some Dapol-branded Manors. One B1 died with a puff of smoke (repaired under warranty, but still not a great runner and since sold) and no Manor could match the running of the first one until I bought another Ixon Manor a couple of years ago. I also have an A3 Flying Scotsman that can't keep its valve gear attached and runs like a bag of bolts. I also have a "sold as seen" A1 from Dapol's factory seconds that looks and runs perfectly. It seems like the less you pay, the better Dapol steam locos get. I also have a couple of Halls, again the one I bought new doesn't like left (or is it right) hand curves because the tender drive tries to lift the wheels off the track. The GWR 28xx runs very well, but sounds like it is crushing rocks, even through 1st radius points; which I think is impressive for an 8-coupled locomotive. As I've said before, the loco-drive Dapol Westcountry will be an interesting and significant model.
    I've also got a Dapol 14xx, 45xx and had a Southern 0-4-4T, which could give Hornby's "Smokey Joe" a run for it's money in being the fastest thing on rails. None of them would run slowly and the 14xx could be used to test the sheer strength of rice pudding skin. In all fairness the 0-4-4T was a rescue project, bought cheap as a non-runner and I was pleased to get it working at all.
    I've not had a problem with any of my Dapol pannier tanks (I've got four or five) but I know my experience is not shared by everyone.
    In fairness, I've had a Graham Farish LMS Black 5, that also dropped a screw and had to go back to the factory for a repair. It also needed careful lubrication otherwise the wheels would lock up and get pushed along by the tender-drive. I also had a GF 3MT tank that I returned because it had a wonky wheel and limped down the track. I rejected another 3MT before buying it because it only ran backwards. I did get lucky on my third example, which seems very nice.
    If you can find them; I'd recommend the Graham Farish 5MT; Coronation; or GWR Castle (the modern ones, not the old Poole-type). I'd also recommend the GF Thompson, Hawksworth and Mk1 coaches, but they aren't cheap.

  • @JustinFrazier_360
    @JustinFrazier_360 Před 3 dny +1

    So amazing loco sam

  • @NWRJ_WStudios
    @NWRJ_WStudios Před 3 dny +3

    You should try doing a review on bachmann 8f in N scale, I have one and it's such a wonderful model.
    Cheers Jasper & Willow

  • @noahhorinek
    @noahhorinek Před dnem

    I find it incredibly sad that the Britania and this A4 have live trailing trucks (in N-scale) but Hornby ones are often static with unflanged wheels on OO scale.
    Great review, thanks Sam!
    I do know that Hornby goes for looks with the static truck, but it still drives me crazy.

  • @samwoodward8491
    @samwoodward8491 Před 3 dny +1

    The coupling is similar to the real flying Scotsmen a few months back 😊

  • @robertlucido3686
    @robertlucido3686 Před 3 dny

    Will you be getting some Bachmann American N gauge steam locomotives

  • @user-uk8jr6zc9l
    @user-uk8jr6zc9l Před 3 dny

    I went on Dapol's site and found no repair department or repair suggestions. You are stuck with that lemon my friend, but it is encouraging to see you next acquisition was a runner. Great review as always, Jersey Bill

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny

      They do have a no quibble warranty, so any lemons can be returned for repairs, or most likely a replacement!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @KianWesternRailway
    @KianWesternRailway Před 3 dny +1

    Please can do a industrial running session

  • @Nascarfan2506
    @Nascarfan2506 Před 3 dny +1

    1:05: Trust me, I’m from the US where these model scale trains are popular and I have seen some model trains that cost over $800 (over £630), so I feel that you got it for an incredible price. Btw amazing vids 😁😁😁

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny

      True - some of the prices over there are indeed crazy!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @gat-x105strikegundam5
    @gat-x105strikegundam5 Před 3 dny +2

    Please please please review another graham farish steam engine! They all run fantastically, I recommend the 2mt!

  • @davidstrains4910
    @davidstrains4910 Před 3 dny +2

    Received my P2 with the steam generator and overall it’s fantastic, haven’t had the opportunity to try out the steam generator yet though, also recently fitted my bachmann class 90 with sound as well, it also gives me the servo operated pantograph which is a cool feature
    Decent overall review here Sam, my dad has 2 N gauge A4s, one is Sir Nigel Gresley and a minitrix one which is Mallard plus on that one while it’s N gauge it actually has forward lights, A4s have already been interesting in N gauge, they have always had the valences removed until dapol produced a valanced one but unfortunately with that one dapol had to leave off a piece of the valve gear.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny

      Ahh fantastic - I've heard good things about them! These N gauge A4s are very impressive actually :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @malcolmloud9389
    @malcolmloud9389 Před 3 dny

    What branch line diesel do you recommend from hornby

  • @GaryNumeroUno
    @GaryNumeroUno Před 3 dny +2

    Hi mukka,
    Hope this finds you and Claire both well.
    Thanks for the interesting review.
    Can I suggest when you start filming you go over the rolling stock to remove hairs and dust. Some of the fluff on that loco looks like rope at that scale! 😂
    That tender drive is horrendous. I cannot unsee the kicking and screaming which occurs between the loco and tender on bends due ro the chunky, clunky and awkward design.
    Not my cup of tea chum.
    Thanks anyway.
    Regards from Oz.
    Gaz

  • @johnscarsandstuff
    @johnscarsandstuff Před 7 hodinami

    How about a comparison of the A4 in OO, TT and N?

  • @OliversRailwayModelling

    Apparently the Dapol N gauge terrier and pannier are very good models, but I don’t have either, so take that with a pinch of coal!!
    Good review as always Sam!

  • @Alextrains502
    @Alextrains502 Před 3 dny

    Hi Sam willing you be reviewing the new hornby a4 Golden Fleece

  • @DennisLora2001
    @DennisLora2001 Před 3 dny +1

    Pretty good rating Sam and nicely done with the review I'm impressed 32:01

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny +1

      Thanks Dennis - yeah it deserved a good score!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

    • @DennisLora2001
      @DennisLora2001 Před 3 dny

      @@SamsTrains That's nice and you're welcome Sam

  • @AllensTrains
    @AllensTrains Před 3 dny +1

    You might make a video comparing this with the TT:120 example for the benefit of those who have not decided which scale to go for. What are the pros and cons of N compared to TT? T,hanks for all your efforts making these videos.

  • @paulsngaugechannel
    @paulsngaugechannel Před dnem

    Hi Sam, yes a good looking model. I had a few Dapol models a while ago, and they were ok, a bit noisy, like Graham Farish. I had a Q1 but cannot remember which manufacturer. That was a good model and not noisy.
    N gauge are not cheap, and they tend to justify the price by saying that they have improved the detail, but of course they haven’t. I like the A4’s but they don’t seem to run well in N gauge for long. Quite a few tend to end up as static models.
    Try GF , the newer models are more stable, but expensive.

  • @simply_randomations
    @simply_randomations Před 3 dny

    My thoughts first tiny train and nice amount of detail In my opinion and it runs decently

  • @Trainfantony
    @Trainfantony Před 3 dny

    I’m an American o gauge enthusiast and most of my engines stay on the rails even when I run them fast never have had any major issues with build quality or reliability problems myself my experience has been very positive so far and the only model that I did have problems with was poorly maintained by its original owner but I have sorted out the problem which was a sticky reverse unit that just needed some cleaning and fresh lubricant

  • @star86703
    @star86703 Před 3 dny

    Fantastic A4 n scale engine 😊😊

  • @leelishman7137
    @leelishman7137 Před 3 dny

    "Awesome" watch; only 3,"Awesomes"today,can't be that good!

  • @cirseltoo
    @cirseltoo Před 3 dny

    My NINE have had very few problems over the six years I've had them. They ran over a mile a day on the exhibition layout "Croft Spa", running at scale express speeds with trains of up to 10 coaches or 30 vans for the fish train. Most of them have getting on for 30 miles under their wheels and still run well. The tender to loco drive was better at the time than the corresponding tender-only drive on the Farish Pacifics, which had a tendency to lock up the valve gear. Upgrading? Dapol is a small company and the engine-drive Bullied pacific is still in development- they have already said an upgrade to the A4 and A3 won't happen until they are happy with the Bullied mechanism. Best way of replacing a drive shaft is a pair of small curved pliers. Finally- your reverse running seems to show a bump in your track at the toe of the point, where you said "a bit of shaking".

  • @John-Tropi
    @John-Tropi Před 2 dny

    As usual, an excellent and very informative review.
    The standout abomination is the appalling fore and aft orientation of the trailing pony truck!
    Once seen, you simply cannot unsee it.
    Also unignorable is the rather poor coupling rod representation and then that seriously misbehaving rear coupler to the coaches.
    It might have been interesting to pull off the loco body to evaluate the feasibility of inserting the heaviest weight that might be persuaded to fit inside it. This could transform the smooth running, electrical pick-up AND drawbar pulling power, which is why this crude but SO effective improvementis so often utilized in Continental models which generally perform very well indeed.

  • @GP30_Foamer
    @GP30_Foamer Před 3 dny

    This review’s kinda special for me because the first video of yours that I ever watched was your review of Hornby’s BR Mallard

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny +1

      Ahh fantastic - yeah I remember that one well... that's a long long time ago!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @chasesrailwaylinesrr6447

    There's just 1 thing I question Why is it tender drive? Bachmann in the 1980s were making loco powered 0-4-0s in N Scale, And remember the n scale Pannier tank?

  • @christhorpejunction8982

    I bought one. It broke my heart when it didn’t run, at all!

  • @kellyashfordtrains2642
    @kellyashfordtrains2642 Před 4 dny +1

    My small N Gauge collection isn't Dapol, it's Graham Farish, so I wouldn't know. Basically, my Graham Farish collection consists of a GWR Large Prairie Tank Engine and King Richard 2nd, two open wagons and closed vans (thanks to Alfie for sending them to me), a GWR Toad Van, three Chocolate & Cream Mk. 1 coaches, a Pullman carriage and a Union Pacific Railroad Caboose. They won't be tested till November, as you know, and I'm nervous about the first test run. Any advice?

    • @M_ADAX
      @M_ADAX Před 3 dny +1

      Theres not much advice to give really, just pop them in the rails and enjoy them

  • @terrycharleslewis7565
    @terrycharleslewis7565 Před 5 hodinami

    Thanks for another N review Sam. Suggest reviewing Sonic Models GWR prairie tank next, different maker and type of loco. Regards Terry.

  • @AllensTrains
    @AllensTrains Před 3 dny

    You might make a video comparing this to the TT:120 example for the benefit of those

  • @sanguine_potato7524
    @sanguine_potato7524 Před 2 dny

    Hey Sam, you should check out one of the Rivarossi 3-truck Heisler locos. They are very unique-looking and cool American logging railroad engines with an interesting drivetrain that looks really good while running.

  • @Gatherleymodeller.
    @Gatherleymodeller. Před 3 dny +3

    I really want to become your chief mechanical engineer!

    • @jackstrains4468
      @jackstrains4468 Před 3 dny +2

      I agree!

    • @M_ADAX
      @M_ADAX Před 3 dny +3

      Not worth it tbh

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny +2

      Thank you so much! You'd be very welcome :D
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @Stephenkiernanbackup
    @Stephenkiernanbackup Před 3 dny

    Could you please review one of the new Hornby railroad class 40s cause I’m thinking of purchasing one and would love to know your thoughts

  • @davidhartwell4826
    @davidhartwell4826 Před dnem

    I find Dapol locomotives are a bit of a lottery as to if or not you get a really good one. I have a Brit which is no problem. Dapol advertise their drive mechanism as Super Creep. You appear to have a good one in that respect so fit the Eezy Shunt couplings, the ones with the springs, to the tender and the first coach and with a decent rake of coaches you should be able to stop just short of the train and then ease up and couple without the coaches moving. Very prototypical and impressive. The wires between loco and tender are a weak point . A spare pair is supplied. The Bulleid light pacifics when they finally arrive wil lhave the motor in the loco. Hopefully they will be a success and Dapol will consider re-tooling previous tender locos: The spring on the coupling sometimes comes off. A spare is supplied but it is useful to know a watchmaker to put it on for you!

  • @drache444444
    @drache444444 Před 3 dny

    i really would love to see you review one of the awfully expensive new n-gauge fleischmann BR01 locomotives. but i think theyre a bit out of your usual price range. but it would be interesting to see them compared to these "cheaper" n-gauge locos.

  • @andrewbrown4985
    @andrewbrown4985 Před 3 dny

    you might try a graham farish N scale model to see if they have a better quality and mechanism.

  • @hk9blox_record
    @hk9blox_record Před 3 dny +1

    Hello Sam, would like to see you take a look in Kato's n scale JNR D51 released back in 2016, I owned two of these (D51-200 & D51-498) and I'm pleased to say they're decent performer around the track

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny

      That sounds very interesting - I'll have to see if I can find one!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @user-rb1ey8zc3e
    @user-rb1ey8zc3e Před 3 dny

    Thanks for review ,Sam! I think,15 degree points don't fit for N-scale long locos. Use 7,5 degree one for the best performance!

  • @1f21lauhinfung7
    @1f21lauhinfung7 Před 2 dny

    It reminds me of Spencer the private engine from T&F

  • @Decrepit_biker
    @Decrepit_biker Před 3 dny

    I have one of these, Golden Eagle in the LNER lined apple green. I have to say that mine is a great runner! It is a little noisy perhaps but it sure footed and reliable.
    I actually like that all the driving axles are geared, it takes the strain off the coupling rods, which considering how small they are in N GAUGE (NOT scale Sam!) I think is a good thing.
    The carden shaft is a solution to a problem of its time which if not ideal does work. I have a Farish Castle which the motor in the loco, which is smoother and quieter but which has poor traction due to lack of weight.... I own 7 Dapol locos with the carden design of drive and they all pull stock much better than the Castle with only one needed tweaking to run acceptably. This was the socket on the motor which needed some molding flash removing and being pushed onto the shaft by about another 1mm or so. It wasn't a new loco to me so I can't say if it was always like that or whether the previous owner had been at it before!
    One thing I do accept is that because of its size that N gauge can be a little more tempremental than larger scales. As an engineering myself I recognise many of the practial compromises that have had to be made to get such finely detailed locos that are frankly so tiny...... My O Gauge locos are certainly more reliable than my N gauge stable!

  • @Taggart00
    @Taggart00 Před 4 dny +2

    My thoughts are I don't model N... Although I do like the large scale layouts people make as you can fit so much more in the same space as OO or O

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny

      Yeah absolutely - some of the N scale layouts out there are utterly amazing!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @rootersairforce7648
    @rootersairforce7648 Před 3 dny

    It’s great to see you branching out to TT and N, but are any O gauge reviews in the pipeline?

  • @RichardBough-yk2ei
    @RichardBough-yk2ei Před 10 hodinami

    Sam if it only had 1 set of driving wheels it weight even less. I agree with you 100% motor should be in the Engine and not the Tender

  • @user-xd5iv5mq9p
    @user-xd5iv5mq9p Před 3 dny

    hi Sam can you do a kato n scale big boy they are amazing i have one and it runs very well

  • @jbhtrams
    @jbhtrams Před 3 dny

    I have seen a conversion done to Dapol locos using a piece of wire and drilled beads at either end, with bars through them.
    The ones I saw had a shortened drawbar too (closer coupled and the new drive shaft can hardly be seen!!!

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny

      That sounds interesting - I'd like to see that done!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @WCMLtrainspotter
    @WCMLtrainspotter Před 3 dny

    How coincidental, I saw an A4 today!

  • @willsngaugetrains
    @willsngaugetrains Před 3 dny +1

    Great video, I dont model steam myself, but I find these reviews interesting. I would recommend you look at the Kato class 800, it's better than Hornbys 00 model! I would also recommend Dapol's HST and the Farish class 158.

    • @SamsTrains
      @SamsTrains  Před 3 dny +1

      Thanks a lot Will - and appreciate the suggestion, I'll have to look into that!!
      Thanks for watching, Sam :)

  • @lewisstevens6028
    @lewisstevens6028 Před 3 dny

    I had the silver king. I fitted a decoder to it and it burnt out the decoder. (Model was brand new) I got it the model replaced under warranty with a new decoder but that was the last straw for n gauge with me.

  • @forrestrobin2712
    @forrestrobin2712 Před 3 dny +1

    Interesting! Boy has N gauge improved 😮
    To anyone of my generation - my mates had Grafar, Minitrix and Lima N - this os outstanding. I’d even say you were a bit harsh. Try a 1970’s Grafar Hall or 94XX (they were barely use able) and then come back to your Dapol models. There really is no comparison !

    • @jbhtrams
      @jbhtrams Před 2 dny

      For God sake don't mention Lima N; awful stuff. All scale dimensions wrong, ran like a bag of bolts, if you could get them running it was usually about 200mph. Utter crap!!!

    • @jbhtrams
      @jbhtrams Před 2 dny

      Mini trix ran like Swiss watches, and built like tanks!!!

  • @azuma892
    @azuma892 Před 3 dny

    Sam, when you will review the Dapol N M7? I know you have it.

  • @tomscameras
    @tomscameras Před 3 dny

    Thank for a nice N scale review. It's actually interesting that British N scale is not thaaaaat much smaller than TT scale ...
    Actually about some technical details, I would rather disagree: I do think N scale models need traction tires ... it really helps a lot if you want to manage grades! I also think it's better to have gears driving more than one axle ... it really increases the longevity of the whole thing. N scale coupling rods are tiny and tolerances are never as tight as they should be in a perfect world ...

  • @lonewolf4215
    @lonewolf4215 Před 3 dny

    Video review of the mallard coming out on the 3rd july, I see what you did there Sam

  • @brianartillery
    @brianartillery Před 3 dny

    Do Graham Farish still exist? They used to be big (if you see what I mean) in the N scale world.
    The Makers' plate is the other etched brass part. Just glue it on the gold oval on the cab side.

    • @azuma892
      @azuma892 Před 3 dny +1

      It exists as a Bachmann range.

  • @timstrainvideos142
    @timstrainvideos142 Před 3 dny

    please review dapol class 50. steam is more temperamental in n. diesel runs better. also it probably doesn't like the set track points.

  • @roberthannigan8118
    @roberthannigan8118 Před 3 dny

    Please make a video of n scale Thomas and friends bachmann locomotives when will you post that video

  • @briancooper562
    @briancooper562 Před 3 dny

    The problems both your N locos have is in the trailing single axle bogie. It is too light. I have a SP cab forward in Ho with a single axle bogie which cannot go backwards as this bogie derails until load was added. This problem increases with any drag in its sliding pivot a single axle does not easily steer itself when pushed if it is too light or unloaded in model form. In real life the bogies front and back, take some of the locomotives weight through a bearing surface.

  • @modelrailfan37
    @modelrailfan37 Před 3 dny

    Good review! I haven’t been too impressed by Dapol’s N Stuff going off you and others reviews, maybe try more Graham Farish (aka Bachmann)? Sonic Models just released a N Gauge Large Prairie as well!!

  • @m.l.vanzoen236
    @m.l.vanzoen236 Před 3 dny

    Actually you should try Fleischmann 714575, but I am afraid the price scares the hell out of you. It is DCC, tender driven on 4 axles.

  • @ChristopherDennie-tc5jt

    As far as I’m concerned, swiveling and sliding trailing trucks is fairly common, especially when you’re talking about long o gauge locomotives trying to navigate o27 diameter curves. Almost every o27 locomotive I have with a trailing truck, it swivels and slides, and it really does help them tackle tight curves that no locomotives of their size should realistically be rolling around, although I guess blind center drivers is another helpful factor.

  • @Jimyjames73
    @Jimyjames73 Před 3 dny

    A Lovely Little Loco 🤔🚂🚂🚂

  • @ollytheowl
    @ollytheowl Před 3 dny

    Hello Sam , similar issues with the School's class, especially the tender to loco cables. Suggest the new Sonic prairie. Mine runs well and has good reviews on the N Gauge forum

  • @timbervalleyproductions
    @timbervalleyproductions Před 4 dny +1

    Great vid Sam! Quite a nice loco I will admit though I do think the tender driven design is a bit naff for such an expensive loco - especially when smaller locos like the pannier have a motor in them too!!

  • @Lewis-kf2pj
    @Lewis-kf2pj Před 3 dny +1

    Hi Sam, I do always love a good review, irrespective of scale. Very pretty for how tiny she is. However, that’s not why I’m messaging you, I just wondered if you were ever going to have a look at the Cavalex 56 or whatever their upcoming creations are? Please don’t see this as a thinly veiled ‘demand’ etc, I’m purely curious. I have seen loads of other people review them and they have a few features I’d bank my house on that you would like. Though, and this is going to sound a bit sycophantic, though all true, they just don’t do the job you do. They try, bless ‘em, but they haven’t your skill/intellect/feeling for the job, call it what you will, as you. I don’t necessarily trust them either whereas we know that nobody is pullin’ your strings, so to speak. Anyway, please tell me to keep my beak out if necessary, as I say, it is purely curiosity and a want to see things done right :) :)

  • @JoshuaEllison-z6q
    @JoshuaEllison-z6q Před dnem

    Hello Sam. I’m a model railway beginner and have loved the hobby with my grandad since I was four ( I am now thirteen). Please could you recommend any starter sets for me and where to get them. Auctions giveaways etc
    Thanks and loving the vids keep it up🚂🚈🚅🚄🚝

  • @mikeking2539
    @mikeking2539 Před 3 dny

    The metal Names and World Speep record details are a nice touch, but yah come on Dapol, even in 2012 they could have had the motor in the loco, it can't be that hard to do!

  • @darreno9874
    @darreno9874 Před 3 dny +1

    It's a shame when companies dispatch models that are so substandard. Back in the 1980s Marklin could produce a z gauge loco with the motor in the loco not the tender and there was no glue splatter or paint defects neither was there poor painted running gear, and finally it stayed on the track.

  • @a.squirrel1511
    @a.squirrel1511 Před 3 dny

    I understood that one of the reasons for the a4's efficiency was internal, streamlining of the steam pipes, improving the flow of steam through the engine. Can anyone confirm?

    • @John-Tropi
      @John-Tropi Před 2 dny

      Yes, Gresley is well documented as having been strongly infuenced by André Chapelon in this respect. Gresley did a much better job on the external streamlining though!

  • @PaulB-justme
    @PaulB-justme Před 3 dny

    We were discussing this a few weeks ago at Swindon Model Railway Club, amongst the N gauge modellers. We all agreed that we preferred the older steam locos, and the Union Mills locos. They may lack the fine detailing of the new locos, but they are heavier and pull a decent rake of coaches or trucks behind them!

    • @itsconnorstime
      @itsconnorstime Před 3 dny +1

      I had a big n gauge layout when I was a kid, most of the locos were Minitrix including two Britannias. I have the fondest memories of them and Minitrix, they just kept going.

    • @PaulB-justme
      @PaulB-justme Před 3 dny

      @itsconnorstime I have a Minitrix A4 Sir Nigel Gresley, and it pulls an 8 coach rake round the club show layout for as long as we want!

    • @randytaylor1258
      @randytaylor1258 Před 3 dny

      What a little gem of a loco! More N-scale, please.

  • @Alextrains502
    @Alextrains502 Před 3 dny

    Cool

  • @user-cn4rg2bs4p
    @user-cn4rg2bs4p Před 3 dny

    HI Sam. can you please try hornbys tt duchess please. with both sets of wheels under the cab, thanks caroline

  • @captaintorch983
    @captaintorch983 Před 3 dny

    Sam, surely you know that the small etched plates commemorate Mallard's record breaking run. They are still on the loco today.
    I do think that it is unfair to compare 10 year old locos with those made today. I have a number of tender driven Dapol locos, and they are fine.
    The recent Schools class are particularly good runners.