"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” -CS Lewis Full quote: >Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.
@@Turin-Fett the only critique I'd have of the quote is my personal distinction of the term "adult" verses "a dolt", mostly cause there are a few too many people in this world who haven't matured at all, and still bring the brash selfish nature of a child with them into adult hood and make their lack of maturity other people's problem. I'd agree adult shouldn't be a term of approval, but some fully grown people are just not adults they are just dolts.
Imagine showing them horror anime or any movie that had adult themes. They would not realize that they are wrong, but claim that people are making "inappropriate content for children". Legit could imagine a parent suing a studio because they let their kid watch animated TV shows without a care and the kid watched some adult show and repeated things they heard and saw. It's kinda sad really that some people are really stubborn. It's more enjoyable to silence someone who thinks animated stuff is for kids with a horror flick like Corpse Party and then ask them if their kid would like to watch it.
Same. To me it only shows not only your lack of imagination but understanding. Most animations have an extremely deep meaning. To be it’s the best genre to really tackle the hard themes such as grief.
I remember that one movie made me love animation again. I was 13 and i saw a poster of a movie with multible spidermen. I thought its a childish cheap thing problably. I was like "im too old for this" "Spiderman into the spider-versé" became my favorite movie in 10 seconds of it's runtime.
Thinking animation is only for kids can also be dangerous as a parent with that mindset will find animations that are far from being for kids and give it to their kids. They scar their kids and think it’s the animations fault as ‘It ShOuLd Be KiD-fRiEnDlY’. Yeh, no Karen. You didn’t look closely at the animation and thought it was just like Dora the Explorer.
@@voidresident_m4r127 Agreed Imagine having your young kids watch Bojack Horseman or Beastars LOL Granted I’m sure many young kids watch R rated films with strong sexual content/ nudity, violence, and disturbing material like those two shows I mentioned have and are fine but still.
If I hear someone say "Animation is for kids," one more time, we animation fans are going to talk that person, bc Animation is for E V E R Y O N E and it is also an art that we should praise :)
The ultimate arguments against that "garwsh, animation is only for kiddos and toddlers, ah-hyuck!" would be to show them one specific movie. If I'd say "What does 1988 represent in animation?", any average animation connaisseur would say: "Who framed Roger Rabbit?", "My Neighbor Totoro", "Oliver & Company", "The Land Before Time". For me, I would say "Grave of the Fireflies". Not only was it made & released at the same time as Totoro, but it is the complete opposite of the merry-fantasy picture by Miyazaki, & instead paints a horrid but realistic tale of two children lost in the decaying streets & misery of Japan when it lost WWII. I only saw it once at 20yo, and never saw it again not because I hated it (I admired it), but because it's the most griping movie on emotional level. If a realistic emotional scale for sadness could exist, GOTF would be beyond 9,000.
Even as a kid, the „adult themed“ bits were way more meaningful, striking and rememberable than any bubbly exclusively-for-kids lalala stuff. Even if my child mind couldn’t fully comprehend it.
I love having that feeling of "Huh, now I get the joke". You don't get that magic from children's programming, you get it from something where the creators make something KNOWING it will hold a legacy. Honestly, if something is made for both the parents and the kids, those kids who grow up will be able to continue to enjoy the show, potentially even in a new light.
As a young artist who is learning animation, this INFURIATES me. Animation is extremely difficult too! The amount of people who discredit animation as “just for kids” are stupid.
I’m an adult, and I’ve been an animation fan my whole life. I’m glad you made this video. I hate it when people say that animated movies (particularly Disney movies) are just for kids. Btw, I just started watching Demon Slayer last week. It’s kind of ironic that you mentioned in this video. I was literally just thinking the other day that that particular show is a great example of something that, despite being animated, it’s definitely not for kids.
Thank you for your comment! Demon Slayer is phenomenal and I hope you enjoy it! The whole video is born from so many of those same comments about Disney and other types of animated content. I'm even more glad that you enjoyed it and felt the need to comment. It means a ton.
I’m with you cause I still remember the time I was 10 years old and I mentioned something about Snow White (of course I’m talking about the Disney version), and this dude from my children’s church group told me it’s for babies.
Yeah, if unfortunately, animation is still largely stigmatized as child’s fare, so most adults can’t be nonchalant about their appreciate for it. When you think about it, it’s almost tragic, we a have a medium that is so lively and capable of communicating so many ideas and concepts, the natural extension of the painting medium and other forms of visual arts, yet, it is almost always regulating as a mere babysitting tool.
Just goes to show how powerful the movie is, I immediately teared up at the fox and the hound clips. It gets me every time. Also, I NEED a xenomorph muppet crossover.
Stranger things have happened. Editing was particularly difficult because I'd get wrapped up in the clips either emotionally or just because they're so damn entertaining. Hard not to just watch the movies.
When I got to certain age my own family began shaming me for liking cartoons, they were so anti-animation believing it to be childish and I didn’t know any one else my age that liked cartoons so for the longest time I believed I needed to force myself to stop watching animated media until I realized “Fuck that” because art shouldn’t have an age range, and people who make cartoons work just as hard, if not harder than those who make live-action entertainment.
Japan has a much different attitude towards animation than the west. To them, it is just another medium, like how live-acting is a medium (see also: every violent or gory Shonen anime, or every sexually explicit harem anime), and the Japanese will almost always prefer animation to live-action special effects. Probably the only Western animation that came close to this mindset were mavericks such as Ralph Bakshi and Don Bluth.
Disney is a real maverick in storytelling it's not for children but for everyone no matter how old you are I will never stop loving animation and I'd die if it goes extinct and all the parents are just idiots! When they don't care or say it's just for kids I prefer to be a character design a cartoonist someone who can please animators and sell ideas to them
I think the United States traditionally had a different attitude than Europe towards animation. Europe always saw it more like art when the US made it an industry targeted to kids from the start. So "West" vs "East" might not be as a clear cut as that.
@@scottriddell3514 that's kinda a double-edged sword though. Animation in the US actually had more adult themes until Walt Disney proved you could in fact make a feature length film of animation instead of shorts before movies. The stigma that animation is for kids is wildly accredited to the house of mouse as well.
I agree about Clone Wars. The animation style takes time to adjust to but you do adjust, and the story is rich, compelling and as you said "essential" to understanding the characters and how they got where they are. Ahsoka is my favorite Jedi because of the courage she had to leave the Jedi and keep her own high standards of morals and Honor.
Animation improves across the entire series as well. Especially in the last season. The writing on her was phenomenal and still is considering all her current appearances. Excellent series.
@@xeox4280 And the live action characters like Yoda and Chewbacca aren’t? Clone Wars is one of the best things to come out of the Star Wars. It’s not perfect, but it brought us some of the best stories and characters of the Star Wars universe. The later seasons are a huge improvement in terms of storytelling and animation. And I’d easily argue that arcs like Umbara and Siege of Mandalore are on par with the best moments from the movies.
The Prince of Egypt is proof that religious stories can be appreciated by everyone, regardless of faith. Imagine if someone made a true and sincere adaptation of the Bible in a cinematic universe format, with no dumbing down or forcing a religious message. It would be appreciated by almost everyone regardless of faith. And it would only work in animation. The grand scope of adapting the entire Bible in live action film would make even the MCU look like small peanuts by comparison, and it wouldn’t look as good as in animation.
Animation deserves to reference the religious things no matter is it's cartoon action comic relief or anime it's all to the ones who choose to make it disney also needs that sort of magic
I outright reject christianity as chruch with my grandparents was boring as fuck so I'd play with dinosaurs. But Prince of Egypt is one of my favourite films
I'm a satanist but the major things I enjoy about christianity is it's value of acceptance and loving anyone anywhere for any reason, and it's mythology. The bible is actually a neat read, but the authors of the book are so dry in their description. An animated adaptation of the bible would be super cool to see especially if they included some of the non-canon stuff like paradise lost or the lost books of the bible.
I too hate it when people say that animation (particularly a Disney movie or tv show) is just for kids. That is complete bullshit cause they’re for EVERYBODY, plus most of them, if not some of them, have themes/issues that we deal with in our reality. Not to mention they often teach us or remind us of certain lessons
I completely agree animation is not just for kids. It's a media that can be loved by all ages. And I really wish Hollywood would treat it with more respect than it has been getting.
Just that brief clip of Uncle Iroh Tales of Ba Sing Se episode automatically brought tears to my eyes. Honestly anything that can make me laugh, on the edge of my seat, and sob in the same work is a piece of art
I've always hated the idea that animation or art in general doesn't deserve an adult audience. I think this video being made at the time it did is amazing, considering Illumination, one of the most well known animated movie companies, has partnered with a new program to send this same exact message. They partnered with another company to begin making adult animated films and shows, which I'm excited for.
Animation is always bogged down by it's reputation of being for kids or it has to be comedy, to the point it drags down good ideas simply because corporate doesn't think a non comedy animation won't sell.
Animation is probably my favorite medium and it is one that I have always had so much respect for. Some of my favorites include the works of Hayao Miyazaki like Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, and Nausicaa of the Vally of the Wind, the works of Martin Rosen like Watership Down and The Plague Dogs, the works of Brad Bird, and the works of Don Bluth. In regards to television, my favorites would have to include the works of Genndy Tartakovsky and Alex Hirsh; Samurai Jack and Gravity Falls are some of my all-time favorite tv shows and pieces of art. Always happy to see a video advocating the versatility, power, and beauty of animation.
One of the most extreme cases of animation not just being a children's medium in, in my opinion, Todd McFarlane's Spawn the animated series. The show was on HBO in the 90s and is one of the most darkest shows - animated or other - I have ever seen. The show had everything - violence, blood and gore, language, alcohol, drugs, sex, nudity, and mature themes such as political corruption and gang violence - and it was a cartoon. Even a majority of live action shows and movies were not as dark as Spawn. At first glance parents might think it's just another superhero cartoon, but five minutes in would have them blocking it because it is so mature that no parent in their right mind would ever let their child watch this show. Just goes to show it depends on who the storyteller is and what story they're telling.
Thank you for your wonderful comment and a great recommendation as I haven't gotten around to Spawn yet. I've been familiar with the character and always heard amazing things about the series so I suppose I'll have to give it a go ASAP.
Strangely, I always knew I would never stop watching animation. Even when I was like 13, people already shamed me for still watching cartoons, but I knew I wouldn't stop even if I needed to watch them in secret for the rest of my life. It's comforting to see a video like this that tells me I don't need to do it in secret. Animation is a beautiful world that I never want to let go of.
I see a lot of cartoons these days get a nostalgia revival on social media which is great. I think even with anime becoming mainstream for adults, western animation still dragged behind in perceptions of being for kids in those same anime loving adult's minds
one of the most underated videos ever, THE DETAIL AND EDITING AND SENSE YOU HAVE IS IMPECABLE and to see the amount of time you put here is insane, gigachad respect to you on handling this topic with such finesse.
I love animation, and honestly, I will always stand by the fact that it is a medium that is overlooked because of how stylized it can be - from realistic but still surreal to even clearly a cartoon/ caricature of a person. But what gets me is that it is a medium where you can tell such dark stories and still feel like it never pushes you too far, for as you know, it is only still images moving. But it is more than just that, it is the precise actions and moments and the emotions they convey that come together as one that can make you feel what the characters feel and understand their struggles or happiness. Animation is art, living, and breathing, and something that I feel needs to be celebrated and loved rather than seen as "Just for kids" because it is art.
As an animator myself (getting my bachelor in animation in a year), being taken seriously as, what you would call an actor in my medium, has always been hard. I work as much as any live action actor to take on different characters in my animations- the only difference is that im not physically on screen. We create reality out of nothing. Making a storytelling device that often feels more real than reality, because we can tell any story we would like, no matter where we are located. That's what animation is about
Don't care that I'm late, congratulations on getting so close to getting a bachelor's degree! Whoo!🎊🥳🎊 I'm an aspiring animator myself! Even though I've hardly done anything in actually animating, I've worked up to designing and illustrating characters which I think is helping in the long run. I hope that you have a consistent flow of inspiration and motivation! Don't forget to rest your hand and your brain now and again, and if you're like me, remember to drink water! Good luck!
I love how Disney’s Pinnochio shows that listening to your elders is important and that we need guidance and also in Guillmeiro’s version teaches it’s ok to be you and that not all authority is good
I'm an Illustration Artist whose career is built after Animation. And the fact that Animation isn't taken serious, as a masterpiece of Art, like Van Gough, Da Vanci, etc, is downright insulting. Not only are some of my favorite films animated, like Lady & the Tramp, An American Tail, The Land Before Time, The Lion King, Kung Fu Panda 2, but also people, under this argument, tend to forget there are times when Animated films and Live Action films can go hand-in-hand. Especially when there are films that put those 2 worlds together. Most notably Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Which truly shows the best examples of how Animation isn't just for kids, and how both fields of filmmaking can do the aforementioned.
Some of my favorite "recently" animated stuff would definitely be Spiderverse, Mitchells vs the Machines, Lego Monkie Kid, and Rise of the tmnt. I know some of them don't seem like they would have great animation but I highly suggest checking them out
Atlantis is one of the most definitive movies of my entire life to me. It somehow just spoke to my 6-year-old self, and every single time I have come back to it - in middle school, high school, college, my twenties - I find myself in awe. Gary and Kirk made the best three movies in the Disney canon imo. And I don't think that it's hyperbole to say that I would not be pursuing a career as a story-teller without Atlantis, or any of the other wonderful animated movies that I grew up on. I can't wait until our generation finally breaks through and gets to take creative control and tells new stories that will resonate.
great video, love how you showed love to so many types of animation. many people tend to just focus on the films or animation in the west, but you showed how every piece of animated storytelling from around the world can have an impact on people. absolutely beautiful.
Found this randomly but I agree! Animation is for everyone, not just kids! Also I find it funny that now animation is seen as only for kids, when histrocially, some of the oldest animation (like black and white animation) we have were often quite adult, the complete opposite of what we have now. Also, my own examples for beautiful and meaningful animation: Cartoon Saloon and the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of short films and animations by people here on CZcams and the wider internet. Cartoon Saloon has beautiful storytelling based on Irish mythos and folklore and I adore it so, so much! And the amount of effort and love put into even the smallest animation on this platform and beyond are amazing and I cannot even put it into words! Also, I think the whole "animation for kids" thing can unforunately cause animators and others to not be treated well, because the medium isn't taken seriously, so why don't we take the workers seriously? They aren't really doing anything meaningful! (< not true, they are by creating animation, but I hope you understand my point.) Since many bosses and CEOs of companies see animation as childish, it's lead to bad conditions for animaters and that kinda drives me up a wall.
My favorite animated films: The Lion King 1994 The Prince of Egypt The Incredibles How To Train Your Dragon The Secret of Nimh Hunchback of Notre Dame 1996 Ice Age Snow White and the Seven Dwarves 1937 Rise of the Guardians I can go on and on. Wish movies can be like this again from all these studios.
The ending made me cry. Animation is art and yet it still sits in bias by those who never tried to explore it and seeing the montage at the end made me emotional. This has been an awesome animation essay my man.
My aunt literally mocks me every time I want to go see an animated movie (especially Disney) in theaters. She's all gung-ho for the (frankly, quite childish at times) live action movies... she thinks the live action Disney movies are better than the originals (probably because they are live action and not animated... ugh) and looks at me like I've grown a second head every time I get off on a tangent about how they *ruined* those movies in their live action remakes. All of the love, care, and absolute charm were stripped away from them in the process of making cash-grab remakes. Mufasa's death in the remake *did not phase me* because everything about those "live action" lions was already dead. I am in my mid 30s and STILL cry at the original scene. Shadowlands (using the title for the Broadway musical version of the song because I can't remember the original song title) just hits me in such a way that I *instantly* start crying when I hear that particular piece of music. Live action rarely gets to me the way animation can. There's just no substitute and it PAINS me how many adults from my generation and my aunt's generation fail to remember that... animation is for EVERYONE, not just children.
I've been watching cartoons and anime for as far back as I can remember they've practically given me most of my life philosophy and personally I'd like to add to the legacy of animation by creating my own films and shorts it's sad that so many of the people in power look down on it as a medium or see it as a stepping stone to live action which is 90% animated now anyway but animation should capture the imagination of all that see it good video dude
Animation of any kind isn't just for one person. There's children centered animation (which has gone down hill hard in recent years), animation for teens, same for young adults & adults in general. No matter how old I get I'm going to be a fan because at the core of it all animation is what got me interested in any real form of visual media. Edit: also can we talk in person? I just started a channel talking about my interests & would love to have someone who has an interest in animation like I do on
I really appreciate these kind of video essays about animation as it’s still not taken seriously as a medium/ literal art form. There is no form of expression that is more vivid and unchained from reality than animation (like you said) and that’s exactly what made me fall in love with this medium. Also the segment about avatar was just perfectly said I actually got emotional, if there‘s anything in the world that can be described as perfect, it’s avatar the last airbender 😮💨
The MCU is mostly live action but I have a feeling that if all the films were 2D animated. They will hold up better, and some moments would be less cheesy in animation than in a live action-CGI hybrid. Imagine a 2D animated MCU with the same style of animation as the Disney Renaissance, it would truly be amazing. And it might just bring theatrical 2D animation back to the mainstream. The horror wasn’t as effective as I hoped to me in Multiverse of Madness because the cartoony CGI effects for the violence contrasted with the live action characters. If it were in 2D animation with lovingly-drawn and detailed gore, it would be much more effective.
Just stumbled upon your channel. It's only your 7th video and this has more effort put into it than a lot of CZcams videos from channels with a million subs. Loved your video man, you are really talented and this is probably the single best defense I would show someone to prove animation isn't just for kids. There are plenty of other videos that cover this topic very well, but your video is on a completely different level. Thank you so much for defending my favorite medium, it nearly brought me to tears. This video actually made my month, I am not joking when I say that. It is also my 20th birthday today so finding your video on this day is such a special experience. I hope you know how great of a job you did on this video. As more people begin to find this video, more love for animation will be spread and people who may feel embarrassed for liking animation will realize that there is no reason to, and I think that's beautiful. The way you described Avatar was beautiful as well. Also before when you brought up The Prince of Egypt as your last movie the way you described it made me think you were referring to the 2017 film Loving Vincent. If you haven't seen that film you should definitely check it out. It's such a beautiful work of art. I would also recommend the Anime Monster that came out in 2004 if you haven't seen it.
Thank you so much for your wonderful comment. I'm happy that I could make something you got so much out of. It means the world to hear kind words like this. Happy Birthday! Also, thank you for your recommendations!
I remember that, as a kid, I stayed away from Mulan for a while because that scene where Mulan finds the doll on the burnt down city was the first time I grasped the concept that little children like myself could not only die, but die gruesome deaths. And it hit me like a goddamn truck. Nowadays, Mulan is one of my favorite movies of all time… As a 28 yo who is always very excited about new animation releases, both in movies and tv shows, thank you for this video
There’s a reason why I always refer to GOOD animated movies which are enjoyable for kids “family films” instead of “kids films” because if they’re good movies then adults will enjoy it as much as kids so they’re family films (as in films for everyone) Although I find it hilarious when people say “animation is just for kids” as I can just send them an edit of all the horrific scenes from Watership Down, The Plague Dogs, Padak, Animal Farm, When the Wind Blows, Grave of the Fireflies, Princess Mononoke etc etc 😂
This video just came in my feed and I watched the entire thing.... Best 1 hour of my life.... It's good to see people appreciate animation as an art as much as live action.... People should realize that it's not the medium that defines the maturity of a show but it's the content
Tangled was and is my favorite Disney movie. I related to Rapunzel being an artist when I was little. Then when I started getting into relationships I realized someone I was dating was toxic thanks to mother Gothel, I saw some of the red flags her character showed. Even now I watch it atleast twice a year, and I always catch something new, be it an animated detail or character theme I can relate to in the moment. Tangled is great, I love it so much.
I hope to God this video blows up for you man, I just spent the last hour watching and listening to this while doing some homework that I didn't need to put too much focus on. As an animation student, I think this video perfectly encapsulates why I want to go down the path that I chose and why I love animation so much! There's a lot of shows and films I have to watch over the winter break when it begins and you just added to my list, so thank you!
Loved the video. You reminded me of the experience I had with Puss in Boots the Last Wish, which my mom and I went to watch together. And we were surprised we weren't the only adults! Specially my mom, I knew it had really good reviews but we mostly went for fun. The room was quiet the whole time except for a girl that couldn't stay still for the runtime and asked stuff during the movie. But because the experience was so good, the movie was never cringey, every joke (and I mean every joke) was a hit for the adults and the kids, everyone left feeling fulfilled and surprised by how good the movie was. It wasn't just the message of the film, it was also the legitimate fear that came from Death the Wolf, the bond that Goldilocks had with the bears, how actually hilarious Jack was by being brutal. It was awesome.
I really loved you're section dedicated to discussing some Japanese animation. On the topic of anime, I deeply love and appreciate Osamu Tezuka's (Astro Boy and Kimba fame) Unico series. The two animated films by Sanrio (The Fantastic Adventures of Unico and Unico in The Island of Magic) are my favorite Japanese anime due to it's ability on not shying away on touching darker and sadder moments and imagery. Yet the titular protagonist (Unico) is a very purehearted and compassionate baby unicorn (voiced by Barbara Goodson in the English Dub) who has the ability to spread happiness and manages to empathy towards a few villains. The scene in the manga and 1981 movie where the little unicorn immediately hugs Katy/Chao after learning that she was abandoned by her human owners and lives on a floating basket really got to me. The climax of "Unico in The Island of Magic" where Unico apologizes to Kuruku (the sequel's main antagonist) after being forced to attack him so he wouldn't get killed stuck with me. Unico doesn't Kuruku, but deeply sympathizes to him due to being fulled by his hatred towards everybody due to being treated and abandoned by his owners (Kuruku's a living puppet) and even insists on becoming "Kuruku's first forever" and promises him "To be his friend forever". Heck, Unico isn't fond of violence unless it's necessary and prefers a more peaceful approach. I strongly recommend seeking out the official English translation of the original Tezuka manga series. Heck, I'm so eager to read the upcoming re-imaging manga called "Unico: AWAKENING" by Samuel Sattin and Gurihiru coming next Summer. The Unico franchise deserves more attention in the West.
You have earned a sub and my respect. Though there is one movie that though based on a much darker book, has some of the darkest themes any movie could have. Bare in mind, these themes went over my head as a kid. But I still loved this movie and it was among the ones my sisters and I picked out for multiple rewatches. The themes themselves being memento mori, existentialism, and struggles with one's purpose and legacy(whether maintaining it or wanting to simply build it up). The Last Unicorn. I even finished the novel sometime ago and ultimately pulled up the ost of the film as I reached the end. One of the most emotional experiences I've ever had. Nowadays, the ost still has this hold on me. I've also come to understand the movie more and more over the years and it's now my favorite animated movie ever. Hell I'm getting teary eyed as I'm hearing the track Unicorn and Lir from the film in my head as I type this out. I may not have understood the movie properly as a kid, but I stood by this film for years out of genuine love for it. And from that love grew an even stronger understanding and appreciation for what it holds. I strongly suggest anyone who loves a good memento mori piece, anyone who loves dark fantasies, or fans of Christopher Lee's perfomances(he plays the film's villain) to watch this beautiful film. Hell it's also a film animated by a group who went on to produce one more anime film after The Last Unicorn before joining into Studio Ghibli. At least from what I remember anyway, may be wrong on that bit. Still cannot praise The Last Unicorn enough for just how much power it holds.
holy cow I cannot believe this video is not produced by a massively-followed CZcamsr - the attention to detail, the passion, and the organization of all your points were phenomenal. As someone trying to break into animation and tell these stories for the young adult audience, this is a conversation I've had to have with SO many people. Animation breaks boundaries. It does things you can't do in live action. It truly is for everyone. Thank you for the hopeful outlook and I pray this video reaches much further than just 1000 people. You've definitely gained a follower - and I'm saving this video for later when I need a pick-me-up :)
Animations if storytelling at its finest. A medium unlike any other, where everything is crafted. Heart and soul every step of the way. And to me, often times has felt more life-like and genuine than its live action counterparts. It a medium of which I will dedicate my life to if I can. It's simply beautiful.
Damn, you hit the nail on head. I can’t disagree with anything said in this video. I think I need to make my dad watch this since I have a hard time convincing him how good animation actually is as an art form.
WOW... I never really comment on videos but this has to be one of the BEST videos I ever watched on CZcams. Hell, as soon as you finally mentioned ATLA, I literally jumped from my seat cheered because I was anticipating for you to mention it!! You did such an amazing job on discussing this topic and hitting every SINGLE nail on why animation is so much more than children's entertainment. Animation is truly an art form, and Japan HAS shown it's potential thanks to anime. Being born in Gen Z (the mid 2000 kids to be exact), I feel like the popularity in anime was bound to happen. I've watched anime at such a young age thanks to my teenage millennial cousins, just like many others my age. In elementary school we would openly talking with classmates about different anime we watched without any sort of judgment unlike older generations. I feel like with the current rise is only because Gen Z has grown up and gave it the recognition it deserves. I wholeheartedly believe that thanks to it's influence and when my generation dives into the animation industry, the way that western culture depicts animation will completely change in the future, and be recognized for the art it is. Hell, it's why I'm even applying as an animation major in art school and why I draw my webtoon, Eye of the Tiger. I want to be part of that movement of changing the narrative of what animation truly is. And I know there's a lot of people out there, especially my age, who feel just like me. Seriously, thank you for making this video, please continue discussing topics like this. You DESERVE the recognition this video is receiving. I hope for it to grow even more attention in the near future.
The How To Train Your Dragon trilogy is one of my favorite animated series of films. I have an unhealthy obsession with dragons, but Hiccup and his fathers relationship has always reminded me of my relationship ship with mine
I have to say I agree with every point in this video, something I learned from watching animated movies, series, or even one-off cartoons. is that the messages (if done right) can shine through at the end of the day. one example id like on how an animated show can be a bit darker in messages is an unlikely one. I'm a casual Brony and I'm currently trying to get the series watched, and one ep I think of a lot when it comes to "darker messages" is session 5, ep.5 "Tanks for the memories", the summary of the episode is that one of the main six Raibowdash doesn't want her pet tortoise Tank to go into hibernation for the winter, so she does whatever she needs to in order to stop the change of the season from fall to winter. from keeping the leaves in the trees to even screwing with the snow machines in cloudsdale. Though eventually, she needs to let her Tank sleep. the end to this ep is surprisingly heartbreaking, as you see dash grieving over her missing her pet. by now you could probably realize that this episode talks about the topic of death and trying to keep those from leaving your side. while the comedy is decent, its the ending that tends to hit the hardest. another ep is in the session 4 ep 5, A Flight to the Finish: In this episode, the ponies of Ponyvile have the chance to bare the flag representing their home, and this responsibility falls under the triple threat of The Cutie Mark Crusaders (CMC). However, it's not all fun and games as one of the members a disabled pegasus named Scootlooo, who is unable to fly, is picked on by the school bullies Dimand Taia and Silver spoon. This Causes Scoot to become fearful and give up on the task, that is til Rainbow comes in and talks with her, telling her that it doesn't matter what the others say, just keep up Her skills and talents. this gives Scoot the motivation to ride in the games on her trike. honestly, this ep's message hit a bit close to home for me, I tend to struggle in finding my worth at times, and admittedly let the words of others dictate my actions. the message in this ep is to be true to yourself and not to let those who have the intent to harm or bring you down get to you. use them to build you up and get better at what you are good at. I haven't gotten this far yet but I remember the messages from many videos talking about them, these are two of many that stick in my mind, and say what you want about me liking this show. it doesn't bother me. I watch it for the many interesting messages and decent songs. and if I made a mistake in the summaries I'm sorry, either way this is one of many ways "kids shows" can be a little more interesting then the live action with the messages and actions. at least to me
This video hit me so hard I sat still and had to soak it in for about 20 minuets... I loved all the work you put in and I am so happy that you did. I needed this validation of my unlimited love for these wonderful artworks. I cried when you brought in Avatar the Last Airbender. I also grew up into that show when I was young. I tuned in weekly when it first aired and was enraptured by the art, story, and impeccable character development. Thank you so much for all you brought to us today. You earned much more than a like and sub from me, you earned my respect.
With how badly animation was treated, it makes me so happy that puss in boots the last wish has become so beloved since it released. Not only is it absolutely stunning, but it doesn’t shy away from themes such as mortality, anxiety, panic attacks and the fear of death, it never talks down to the audience to the point that this film has in my opinion the best depiction on a panic attack I've seen Its a perfect example on why the 'animation is for kids' argument is dumb and shows why animation deserves more respect
God, the amount of times I had to pause this video to go watch a song or sequence in it's entirity bc it was briefly mentioned/shown here is unreal. Animation really is such a fantastic medium
I grew up with so much animation, not from one studio but from multiple both big name and more indie with how overshadowed they are. There are even some animated movies i sadly couldn't find again when i wanted to revisit them. My parent and others did try to make me drop animation cause of the whole wrong view you discussed in this great video "its for kids, thus you are too old for it". While it does happen that people outgrow something, i don't think its ever voluntarily done and more from society pressure. One time i wanted to buy the Unico DVD and my mom refused because the DVD art looked very kiddy and inside my mind, i was simply replaying the scenes of unico having to rescue his female friend from a predatory demon and Unico, in his Alicorn form, killing said demon by pushing his horn right through him. Sure the scene doesn't show blood but its still a fatal kill nonetheless. Today i own various animations on DVD cause i have my own money so deal with it people who say i'm too old for Disney or Hamtaro. Anime though are my absolute favorite form of animation and have been part of my life since i was old enough to watch TV. Pokémon, Sailor Moon, Hamtaro and others made me explore that endless world, i say endless cause there are so many anime out there with more being unleashed onto the world on a weekly basis so there is definitely a set of anime for anyone out there. People may boo at me for it but one of my favorite anime genres is Isekai and i love that cartoons have been taking advantage of that genre as well, not to mention games like Pokémon Legends Arceus. Games are something i thoroughly enjoy as well and just like animation, it has these stigmas it hasn't fully shaken off yet. Hopefully someday, the olden thoughts of society will disappear
I have adored Disney movies since I was little. It's incredibly stupid that someone like Chapek would say that animation is just for kids! Animation is a medium for EVERYONE! I mean, look at the Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, 101 Dalmatians, The Emperor's New Groove, Hercules, The Princess and the Frog. They were PHENOMENAL because they had crisp, fresh animation mixed with excellent, brilliant storytelling that appeals to everyone of all ages! Even adults can enjoy animation, duh!
Growing up one of the few VHS tapes we owned was Iron Giant. My whole family loved this to the point we immediately replaced it when the tape broke. It remains beloved by us all and I hope when I have children, I can share this with them too.
I love when people Mention Black cauldron, to this day i show it to everyone who doesn't know what it is just cause I love it. and i know disney hates that it esists for whatever reason, and the best part is that my uncle showed me the movie when I was 9 and he was 30.
Honestly I actually PREFER animation to live action as like you said you can visit worlds that could never really be replicated in live action,or like non-human characters that look great,or facial expressions you couldn’t get in love action among many other things. It’s truly a form of storytelling art and I think it’s the superior version over live action.
Wow… just wow… man I thought I was going to go on a wild ride with animation and just be in awe, which I am, but… I think I know what the meaning of life is now because of this incredible Masterpiece. It mentioned stories I already loved but also ones I haven’t even seen yet. And that fact that the people made this were truly passionate and genuine it makes me cry. Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful ideas, Mason, thank you. Stay safe and well. Peace ❤
As an animation student it kills me when I see people of older generations complain about live action films nowadays being shallow or just money grabbers, when there are so many beautiful animated shows and movies out there that just. bombarded you with stuning visuals AND plots, splendid character introductions, ageless morals for all ages...
You could talk about Fantasia too, proof that animation can reach experimental art in a more creative way than live action. it's not a criticism, I just remembered this fact, it's amazing how animation reaches many types of art. ❤
Fantasia is a marvelous work. Especially for being Disney's third ever animated feature. Radically unique. One of the hardest things about making this video was narrowing it down to keep it from going on forever. So many great works to choose from!
@@masonidk6571 yes you are right, if you are talking about the whole history of animation the video would be infinite ahaha. But you did a beautiful job, I really admire people who dedicate themselves to their work .Excellent video😊
Speaking of animated movies and tv shows being relatable, here’s a movie that I feel relates to me the most, and that movie is Disney’s Tarzan. Reason for that is because like the character, Tarzan, who struggles to fit in with his adopted gorilla family, I also have that same issue cause throughout my life particularly my elementary, middle and high school years, I’ve also struggled with fitting in. Sure there’s plenty of movies that explore that same concept, but I just like the way, Disney’s Tarzan did it. And that’s exactly why Tarzan is and will always be my #1 favorite Disney film/animated film of all time. Edit: Also, Tarzan has one of best soundtracks ever created.
Animation isn't just geared for kids, as music doesn't just appeals to adults. Cooking and eating is appreciated by everyone. All these facts demonstrate that art as a whole can touch every single one of us, no matter our age, ethnicity, political and social views, humors, etc.
I only got to 17 minutes, so I don’t know the rest of the video yet but to choose regular show above adventure time especially with somebody like Simon and his backstory is crazy
My dad is one of those people. He doesn’t watch cartoons often because he views them as for kids. Me on the other hand, I’m tearing up while watching that scene from “The Fox and the Hound” when the widow leaves Todd in the woods.
Ugh, that was so heartbreaking. 💔 I remember seeing it as a young kid and at first didn’t fully grasp the themes but when I got older and rewatched it when it was on Disney Channel after so long I got massively hit in the feels :(
Phenomenal discussion. I love animation and all of the films and shows you’ve mentioned. I grew up with animated films and anime my whole life. Some of my all time favorite anime are Yu Yu Hakusho, Cowboy BeeBop, Inuyasha etc Samurai Jack, The PowerPuff Girls, Over the Garden Wall, Infinity Train etc. Animation has such a phenomenal way of storytelling that sometimes live action can’t.
I was SO annoyed at the Oscars this year when the live-action Disney princesses came onstage to give out the animation award and just dissed animation as being something to endure for the sake of the kids! 😡
To be honest if anyone ever tells me "animations is just for kids" my counter argument is probably the most simple yet blatant one: If animation is "just for kids" then why do adults CREATE it so passionately? Their claim that animation is "just for kids" goes completely out the window because it simply wouldn't exist without the ADULTS who make it. The fact that animation exists at all is already proof it's not just for kids. If animation was only for kids it would be MADE only by them as well.
My argument is: if it is "for KIDS", then I'm glad it was made so well -- b/c we shouldn't give our kids *crap*. Or ourselves, for that matter. Watch more animation.
I grew up watching a lot of Soviet cartoons since I'm Russian (26 years old, so I never knew or lived in USSR but these cartoons are still cherished here to this day). And among them, there was a series that stood out the most. One that covered the legends and myths of Ancient Greece. If my memory serves me right, and I'm sure it is, those were pretty dark and mature, even though they aired alongside, say, Woody Woodpecker. Or take the legendary meme itself, Treasure Island. It's not for kids. I mean sure, I watched it as a kid, it made me laugh, but only as an adult you begin to appreciate jokes you probably didn't understand back in the day (also true for many other iconic animated movies and shows, we come back and discover new things). And I remember seeing a documentary about Soviet cartoons, they interviewed people who worked on them, and these people? They're artists, they were and still are so in love with their craft, I have nothing but respect for them. Somebody else has already recommended Russian (and just Soviet in general since USSR wasn't just my country) cartoons to you, I second this. I also grew up watching anime, and I am still a big fan, although I sure have become more selective now that my options are not limited. My favorite shows include Claymore and Cowboy Bebop. To say that Cowboy Bebop is for kids would be beyond foolish, right? It explores not only the world around the characters but also their inner conflicts, conflicts that children are simply not old enough to understand, even if they enjoy action. I recently watched it again, this time with my mother, and even though all of the action and the general aesthetic were not for her, she really liked the characters because they were so human, so... alive. Animation is a medium that is not as restricted as live action, and so it allows us to experiment with the wildest ideas our imagination can possibly offer, and different genres too. And, of course, I do not believe that animation for adults must always be dark, politically charged, realistic or too deep... or everything at once. But I simply believe that animation is for everyone to enjoy. If I want to just sit back, relax and watch a show about colorful ponies or, say, an anime about horse girls racing and singing songs (wild as it may sound, it works, Uma Musume is such a wholesome show to watch) just to de-stress, I should be allowed to do so without feeling like it's not something I'm supposed to enjoy at my respectable age. I haven't changed much over the years. I've dealt with loss, a lot of it, in fact, and I had no choice but to accept that some things will never be just the way they once were. And yet somehow I've managed to protect my inner child, I still find joy in simple things, and it's an ability I do not wish to lose. P. S.: To this very day I am convinced that in the close-up shot of Simba when he looks at his father's ghost as he slowly begins to fade, there are tears in his eyes. Maybe it's just lighting, but this is how I see it, and it makes sense to me. This is what animation is capable of. If this doesn't prove that animation is art then I don't know what will. This is what Disney sacrificed for the sake of realism in the remake. P. P. S.: Extra thanks for FF7 soundtrack playing in the background, I adore this game so much, it brought me so much joy I just had to mention it c': Edit: I typed and posted my comment before I got to the point where you talk about Cowboy Bebop :'D But what can I say, this series is, indeed, one of the most amazing journeys I've ever experienced, this is why it's so beloved even nowadays. To me, it was the very show that was there for me when things were rough in life. It didn't solve my problems, it didn't give me answers, it was just there. And for that, I am grateful.
I’m from Croatia and grew up watching many cartoons and among them many were on my CDs. Idk why but many of them included classics of USSR animation (Snowqueen, The magical hunched pony, 12 months, Jungle Book animated series, my favourite Wild Swans etc.) USSR animation has a special place in my heart and I always recommend it to everyone, it has such a fluid animation with a beautiful specific style.
Absolutely spectacular video (literally! the editing was great)! You did a great job explaining everything here and the vast variety of examples is appreciated so much, sometimes it feels people are going on like a broken record about a single subject, but this video felt fresh to it all. Did a great job, man. Can't wait to catch what else you do, keep it up ^^!
The Prince of Egypt is perfection. It inspired me to get into art and animation, when I watched the behind the scenes on my old dvd as a young kid, I knew what I wanted to do when I grew up and that passion has STAYED with me for the rest of my life. this video put my thoughts into words perfectly! MHA is my fav series ever, and the animation only enhanced the beautiful storytelling and universal themes of the author's story. And lemme tell you, anyone who's seen AOT can tell u it aint for kids XD I also grew up with the Clone Wars as MY star wars, and Ashoka is MY Luke Skywalker, the same way Rex and the clones are a huge part of my childhood. The themes of moral complexity and individuality were so well handled. And the minute u talked about one of the best shows of all time, I went: ATLA. Definitely.
this has to be my favourite video I've watched this year. I've never been so close to tears after watching a CZcams video before. My passion for animation is so overwhelming at times and seeing others equal that is amazing. Thank you so much for existing.
“A children’s story that is only enjoyable by children is not a good story in the slightest”
-C.S Lewis
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” -CS Lewis
Full quote:
>Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.
Thats how i think about people that excuse any short coming of kids media by saying that it’s just a kids insert medium here
@@Turin-Fett the only critique I'd have of the quote is my personal distinction of the term "adult" verses "a dolt", mostly cause there are a few too many people in this world who haven't matured at all, and still bring the brash selfish nature of a child with them into adult hood and make their lack of maturity other people's problem.
I'd agree adult shouldn't be a term of approval, but some fully grown people are just not adults they are just dolts.
I was about to say that.
After listening to the Narnia audiobooks, I know that feeling. Like The Magician’s Nephew and The Last Battle are relatable to what’s going on now.
_"Animation isn't a genre, it's a medium. It's not just for kids, it's for everyone of all ages."_
*~ Sun Tzu, the Art of War*
As well as Brad Bird for some reason. 🤔
Coincidence? I think not!
That’s nice.
Saying that animation as a genre is just for kids is like saying that oil paintings aren’t valid art compared to photography.
@@tpeter4240 Totally.
@@tpeter4240 Totally.
If I had a nickel for every time someone judges animation with the phrase: "animation is for kids", I'd be rich
Imagine showing them horror anime or any movie that had adult themes. They would not realize that they are wrong, but claim that people are making "inappropriate content for children".
Legit could imagine a parent suing a studio because they let their kid watch animated TV shows without a care and the kid watched some adult show and repeated things they heard and saw.
It's kinda sad really that some people are really stubborn. It's more enjoyable to silence someone who thinks animated stuff is for kids with a horror flick like Corpse Party and then ask them if their kid would like to watch it.
You wouldn’t have rich if you charged Disney and all of the people who offended by taking their kids to see Sausage Party.😊
you would be rich if you had a *singular cent* for such
"Animation is for kids"
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"Ever heard of Berserk?"
Same. To me it only shows not only your lack of imagination but understanding. Most animations have an extremely deep meaning. To be it’s the best genre to really tackle the hard themes such as grief.
You know what? I agree, Animation is about creativity, and....it's all about art.
100%
You know what…… you’re……. absolutely right.
the truth.
You Are 1000 Percent Right
I remember that one movie made me love animation again. I was 13 and i saw a poster of a movie with multible spidermen. I thought its a childish cheap thing problably. I was like "im too old for this"
"Spiderman into the spider-versé" became my favorite movie in 10 seconds of it's runtime.
Thinking animation is only for kids is even dumber than thinking the Earth is flat.
Facts.
EXACTLY
Thinking animation is only for kids can also be dangerous as a parent with that mindset will find animations that are far from being for kids and give it to their kids. They scar their kids and think it’s the animations fault as ‘It ShOuLd Be KiD-fRiEnDlY’. Yeh, no Karen. You didn’t look closely at the animation and thought it was just like Dora the Explorer.
Bluth , where are you?
@@voidresident_m4r127 Agreed
Imagine having your young kids watch Bojack Horseman or Beastars LOL
Granted I’m sure many young kids watch R rated films with strong sexual content/ nudity, violence, and disturbing material like those two shows I mentioned have and are fine but still.
If I hear someone say "Animation is for kids," one more time, we animation fans are going to talk that person, bc Animation is for E V E R Y O N E and it is also an art that we should praise :)
THANK YOU! Haha!
Exactly. Animation is like a beautiful form of art, it's like bringing art to life 😊
@@firemiracle Agreed! It should be respected and treated better :)
As an animator I can DEFINITELY agree
The ultimate arguments against that "garwsh, animation is only for kiddos and toddlers, ah-hyuck!" would be to show them one specific movie. If I'd say "What does 1988 represent in animation?", any average animation connaisseur would say: "Who framed Roger Rabbit?", "My Neighbor Totoro", "Oliver & Company", "The Land Before Time". For me, I would say "Grave of the Fireflies". Not only was it made & released at the same time as Totoro, but it is the complete opposite of the merry-fantasy picture by Miyazaki, & instead paints a horrid but realistic tale of two children lost in the decaying streets & misery of Japan when it lost WWII. I only saw it once at 20yo, and never saw it again not because I hated it (I admired it), but because it's the most griping movie on emotional level. If a realistic emotional scale for sadness could exist, GOTF would be beyond 9,000.
Even as a kid, the „adult themed“ bits were way more meaningful, striking and rememberable than any bubbly exclusively-for-kids lalala stuff. Even if my child mind couldn’t fully comprehend it.
I love having that feeling of "Huh, now I get the joke". You don't get that magic from children's programming, you get it from something where the creators make something KNOWING it will hold a legacy. Honestly, if something is made for both the parents and the kids, those kids who grow up will be able to continue to enjoy the show, potentially even in a new light.
As a jaded professional animator who's been struggling with motivation, this video has definitely helped re-ignite the flame.
Thank you so much!
That means a lot. Don't give up, no matter what! Thank YOU so much!
@@masonidk6571btw why u didn't TALK MORE ABOUT TICHILAR GAME ADAPTED show that is from star considered cult calssic
@@masonidk6571.amination is for kids its the truth
As a young artist who is learning animation, this INFURIATES me. Animation is extremely difficult too! The amount of people who discredit animation as “just for kids” are stupid.
Animation is a miracle of human capability, if you like it please keep learning it!
I’m an adult, and I’ve been an animation fan my whole life. I’m glad you made this video. I hate it when people say that animated movies (particularly Disney movies) are just for kids. Btw, I just started watching Demon Slayer last week. It’s kind of ironic that you mentioned in this video. I was literally just thinking the other day that that particular show is a great example of something that, despite being animated, it’s definitely not for kids.
Thank you for your comment! Demon Slayer is phenomenal and I hope you enjoy it! The whole video is born from so many of those same comments about Disney and other types of animated content. I'm even more glad that you enjoyed it and felt the need to comment. It means a ton.
@@masonidk6571 You’re welcome! I watched the first season of Demon Slayer in 3 days. I watched the movie a few days ago.
I'm Fourteen,And I Religiously GODALEM Animation
I’m with you cause I still remember the time I was 10 years old and I mentioned something about Snow White (of course I’m talking about the Disney version), and this dude from my children’s church group told me it’s for babies.
Yeah, if unfortunately, animation is still largely stigmatized as child’s fare, so most adults can’t be nonchalant about their appreciate for it. When you think about it, it’s almost tragic, we a have a medium that is so lively and capable of communicating so many ideas and concepts, the natural extension of the painting medium and other forms of visual arts, yet, it is almost always regulating as a mere babysitting tool.
Just goes to show how powerful the movie is, I immediately teared up at the fox and the hound clips. It gets me every time. Also, I NEED a xenomorph muppet crossover.
Stranger things have happened. Editing was particularly difficult because I'd get wrapped up in the clips either emotionally or just because they're so damn entertaining. Hard not to just watch the movies.
Don't know what you're talking about, but it sounds cool!
Disney owns bother.
When I got to certain age my own family began shaming me for liking cartoons, they were so anti-animation believing it to be childish and I didn’t know any one else my age that liked cartoons so for the longest time I believed I needed to force myself to stop watching animated media until I realized “Fuck that” because art shouldn’t have an age range, and people who make cartoons work just as hard, if not harder than those who make live-action entertainment.
Japan has a much different attitude towards animation than the west. To them, it is just another medium, like how live-acting is a medium (see also: every violent or gory Shonen anime, or every sexually explicit harem anime), and the Japanese will almost always prefer animation to live-action special effects. Probably the only Western animation that came close to this mindset were mavericks such as Ralph Bakshi and Don Bluth.
With each generation, hopefully, the West can get closer to that level of respect for the medium.
Thank you for your comment!
Disney is a real maverick in storytelling it's not for children but for everyone no matter how old you are I will never stop loving animation and I'd die if it goes extinct and all the parents are just idiots! When they don't care or say it's just for kids
I prefer to be a character design a cartoonist someone who can please animators and sell ideas to them
Japan actually loves live action tokusatsu films.
They are the people that made Godzilla, Ultraman, Kamen Rider, and Super Sentai.
I think the United States traditionally had a different attitude than Europe towards animation. Europe always saw it more like art when the US made it an industry targeted to kids from the start. So "West" vs "East" might not be as a clear cut as that.
@@scottriddell3514 that's kinda a double-edged sword though. Animation in the US actually had more adult themes until Walt Disney proved you could in fact make a feature length film of animation instead of shorts before movies. The stigma that animation is for kids is wildly accredited to the house of mouse as well.
I agree about Clone Wars. The animation style takes time to adjust to but you do adjust, and the story is rich, compelling and as you said "essential" to understanding the characters and how they got where they are. Ahsoka is my favorite Jedi because of the courage she had to leave the Jedi and keep her own high standards of morals and Honor.
Animation improves across the entire series as well. Especially in the last season. The writing on her was phenomenal and still is considering all her current appearances. Excellent series.
No the characters are ridiculous
@@xeox4280 And the live action characters like Yoda and Chewbacca aren’t? Clone Wars is one of the best things to come out of the Star Wars. It’s not perfect, but it brought us some of the best stories and characters of the Star Wars universe. The later seasons are a huge improvement in terms of storytelling and animation. And I’d easily argue that arcs like Umbara and Siege of Mandalore are on par with the best moments from the movies.
@@mrboombastic450 no
Good soldiers follow orders.
The Prince of Egypt is proof that religious stories can be appreciated by everyone, regardless of faith.
Imagine if someone made a true and sincere adaptation of the Bible in a cinematic universe format, with no dumbing down or forcing a religious message. It would be appreciated by almost everyone regardless of faith.
And it would only work in animation. The grand scope of adapting the entire Bible in live action film would make even the MCU look like small peanuts by comparison, and it wouldn’t look as good as in animation.
Id see that!
Animation deserves to reference the religious things no matter is it's cartoon action comic relief or anime it's all to the ones who choose to make it disney also needs that sort of magic
You would have so many work to make the script coherent 😅
I outright reject christianity as chruch with my grandparents was boring as fuck so I'd play with dinosaurs. But Prince of Egypt is one of my favourite films
I'm a satanist but the major things I enjoy about christianity is it's value of acceptance and loving anyone anywhere for any reason, and it's mythology. The bible is actually a neat read, but the authors of the book are so dry in their description. An animated adaptation of the bible would be super cool to see especially if they included some of the non-canon stuff like paradise lost or the lost books of the bible.
I too hate it when people say that animation (particularly a Disney movie or tv show) is just for kids. That is complete bullshit cause they’re for EVERYBODY, plus most of them, if not some of them, have themes/issues that we deal with in our reality. Not to mention they often teach us or remind us of certain lessons
I completely agree animation is not just for kids. It's a media that can be loved by all ages. And I really wish Hollywood would treat it with more respect than it has been getting.
I agree
I also agree.
Just that brief clip of Uncle Iroh Tales of Ba Sing Se episode automatically brought tears to my eyes. Honestly anything that can make me laugh, on the edge of my seat, and sob in the same work is a piece of art
I've always hated the idea that animation or art in general doesn't deserve an adult audience. I think this video being made at the time it did is amazing, considering Illumination, one of the most well known animated movie companies, has partnered with a new program to send this same exact message. They partnered with another company to begin making adult animated films and shows, which I'm excited for.
Animation is always bogged down by it's reputation of being for kids or it has to be comedy, to the point it drags down good ideas simply because corporate doesn't think a non comedy animation won't sell.
Animation is probably my favorite medium and it is one that I have always had so much respect for. Some of my favorites include the works of Hayao Miyazaki like Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, and Nausicaa of the Vally of the Wind, the works of Martin Rosen like Watership Down and The Plague Dogs, the works of Brad Bird, and the works of Don Bluth. In regards to television, my favorites would have to include the works of Genndy Tartakovsky and Alex Hirsh; Samurai Jack and Gravity Falls are some of my all-time favorite tv shows and pieces of art.
Always happy to see a video advocating the versatility, power, and beauty of animation.
Thank you so much for your comment and I completely agree.
Animation is just a medium. It can be used in all sorts of ways. It's just a shame it hasn't been used as much as it could be in the west.
It's not just in the west, 3rd world countries like in Southeast Asia still believes that animation is for kids only.
One of the most extreme cases of animation not just being a children's medium in, in my opinion, Todd McFarlane's Spawn the animated series. The show was on HBO in the 90s and is one of the most darkest shows - animated or other - I have ever seen. The show had everything - violence, blood and gore, language, alcohol, drugs, sex, nudity, and mature themes such as political corruption and gang violence - and it was a cartoon. Even a majority of live action shows and movies were not as dark as Spawn. At first glance parents might think it's just another superhero cartoon, but five minutes in would have them blocking it because it is so mature that no parent in their right mind would ever let their child watch this show. Just goes to show it depends on who the storyteller is and what story they're telling.
Thank you for your wonderful comment and a great recommendation as I haven't gotten around to Spawn yet. I've been familiar with the character and always heard amazing things about the series so I suppose I'll have to give it a go ASAP.
Strangely, I always knew I would never stop watching animation. Even when I was like 13, people already shamed me for still watching cartoons, but I knew I wouldn't stop even if I needed to watch them in secret for the rest of my life. It's comforting to see a video like this that tells me I don't need to do it in secret. Animation is a beautiful world that I never want to let go of.
It's even a parrell universe
Of life mocked by alien form
I see a lot of cartoons these days get a nostalgia revival on social media which is great. I think even with anime becoming mainstream for adults, western animation still dragged behind in perceptions of being for kids in those same anime loving adult's minds
one of the most underated videos ever, THE DETAIL AND EDITING AND SENSE YOU HAVE IS IMPECABLE and to see the amount of time you put here is insane, gigachad respect to you on handling this topic with such finesse.
Thank you so much!
I love animation, and honestly, I will always stand by the fact that it is a medium that is overlooked because of how stylized it can be - from realistic but still surreal to even clearly a cartoon/ caricature of a person. But what gets me is that it is a medium where you can tell such dark stories and still feel like it never pushes you too far, for as you know, it is only still images moving. But it is more than just that, it is the precise actions and moments and the emotions they convey that come together as one that can make you feel what the characters feel and understand their struggles or happiness.
Animation is art, living, and breathing, and something that I feel needs to be celebrated and loved rather than seen as "Just for kids" because it is art.
As an animator myself (getting my bachelor in animation in a year), being taken seriously as, what you would call an actor in my medium, has always been hard. I work as much as any live action actor to take on different characters in my animations- the only difference is that im not physically on screen. We create reality out of nothing. Making a storytelling device that often feels more real than reality, because we can tell any story we would like, no matter where we are located. That's what animation is about
Congratulations! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Don't care that I'm late, congratulations on getting so close to getting a bachelor's degree! Whoo!🎊🥳🎊
I'm an aspiring animator myself! Even though I've hardly done anything in actually animating, I've worked up to designing and illustrating characters which I think is helping in the long run. I hope that you have a consistent flow of inspiration and motivation! Don't forget to rest your hand and your brain now and again, and if you're like me, remember to drink water!
Good luck!
I love how Disney’s Pinnochio shows that listening to your elders is important and that we need guidance and also in Guillmeiro’s version teaches it’s ok to be you and that not all authority is good
I'm an Illustration Artist whose career is built after Animation. And the fact that Animation isn't taken serious, as a masterpiece of Art, like Van Gough, Da Vanci, etc, is downright insulting. Not only are some of my favorite films animated, like Lady & the Tramp, An American Tail, The Land Before Time, The Lion King, Kung Fu Panda 2, but also people, under this argument, tend to forget there are times when Animated films and Live Action films can go hand-in-hand. Especially when there are films that put those 2 worlds together. Most notably Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Which truly shows the best examples of how Animation isn't just for kids, and how both fields of filmmaking can do the aforementioned.
Indeed
THERE'S AN ENTIRE FANDOM FOR A "KIDS SHOW"
MY LITTLE PONY IS NOT JUST FOR KIDS PEOPLE!
Some of my favorite "recently" animated stuff would definitely be Spiderverse, Mitchells vs the Machines, Lego Monkie Kid, and Rise of the tmnt. I know some of them don't seem like they would have great animation but I highly suggest checking them out
ANIMATION IS 4 EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!
THE WORLD NEEDS ANIMATION TO LIVE!!!!!!!!!
Someone: “Amphibia is a children’s show!”
True colors (second season finale): allow me to introduce myself.
"i just need to-" - marcy wu
@@Happy_spider_boi(marcy now gets impaled by king Andrias flaming sword)
The episode even has a content warning.
Atlantis is one of the most definitive movies of my entire life to me. It somehow just spoke to my 6-year-old self, and every single time I have come back to it - in middle school, high school, college, my twenties - I find myself in awe. Gary and Kirk made the best three movies in the Disney canon imo. And I don't think that it's hyperbole to say that I would not be pursuing a career as a story-teller without Atlantis, or any of the other wonderful animated movies that I grew up on. I can't wait until our generation finally breaks through and gets to take creative control and tells new stories that will resonate.
Giving The Incredibles the attention they deserve I see 😎
Absolutely
What do you mean? It’s not like The Incredibles is underrated
@@isaiahadams1208 Well The Incredibles is Underrated, and is Definitely One of The Best Pixar Films Ever
@@AFC2022 people praise it lots
@@AFC2022 Bro are you kidding? The Incredibles regularly appears on people's top 5 Pixar movies.
great video, love how you showed love to so many types of animation. many people tend to just focus on the films or animation in the west, but you showed how every piece of animated storytelling from around the world can have an impact on people. absolutely beautiful.
Thank you for your comment!
"Alien isn't the same as Sesame Street."
Now I strangely want to see the Xenomorphs and Yip Yip Martians hang out.
I'd eat my words if it ever happened lol
being kid friendly doesnt mean its only good for kids
Found this randomly but I agree! Animation is for everyone, not just kids!
Also I find it funny that now animation is seen as only for kids, when histrocially, some of the oldest animation (like black and white animation) we have were often quite adult, the complete opposite of what we have now.
Also, my own examples for beautiful and meaningful animation: Cartoon Saloon and the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of short films and animations by people here on CZcams and the wider internet. Cartoon Saloon has beautiful storytelling based on Irish mythos and folklore and I adore it so, so much! And the amount of effort and love put into even the smallest animation on this platform and beyond are amazing and I cannot even put it into words!
Also, I think the whole "animation for kids" thing can unforunately cause animators and others to not be treated well, because the medium isn't taken seriously, so why don't we take the workers seriously? They aren't really doing anything meaningful! (< not true, they are by creating animation, but I hope you understand my point.) Since many bosses and CEOs of companies see animation as childish, it's lead to bad conditions for animaters and that kinda drives me up a wall.
As an young animator, I can definitely agree, It is quite annoying, but you are correct! We should celebrate animation because it's a form of art
My favorite animated films:
The Lion King 1994
The Prince of Egypt
The Incredibles
How To Train Your Dragon
The Secret of Nimh
Hunchback of Notre Dame 1996
Ice Age
Snow White and the Seven Dwarves 1937
Rise of the Guardians
I can go on and on. Wish movies can be like this again from all these studios.
Coraline is also great
Shrek 2 is the funniest!!
The ending made me cry. Animation is art and yet it still sits in bias by those who never tried to explore it and seeing the montage at the end made me emotional. This has been an awesome animation essay my man.
Damn I wish this was longer. You made the point so perfectly without even talking about most of my favourite animated works. Great video.
My aunt literally mocks me every time I want to go see an animated movie (especially Disney) in theaters. She's all gung-ho for the (frankly, quite childish at times) live action movies... she thinks the live action Disney movies are better than the originals (probably because they are live action and not animated... ugh) and looks at me like I've grown a second head every time I get off on a tangent about how they *ruined* those movies in their live action remakes. All of the love, care, and absolute charm were stripped away from them in the process of making cash-grab remakes. Mufasa's death in the remake *did not phase me* because everything about those "live action" lions was already dead. I am in my mid 30s and STILL cry at the original scene. Shadowlands (using the title for the Broadway musical version of the song because I can't remember the original song title) just hits me in such a way that I *instantly* start crying when I hear that particular piece of music.
Live action rarely gets to me the way animation can. There's just no substitute and it PAINS me how many adults from my generation and my aunt's generation fail to remember that... animation is for EVERYONE, not just children.
Dude, you deserve A LOT more subscribers. This is an excellent analysis and celebration of the art of animation.
"Animation is for kids"
*shows 10 seconds of japanese seinen animation*
"Actually, no".
*end of video*
I've been watching cartoons and anime for as far back as I can remember they've practically given me most of my life philosophy and personally I'd like to add to the legacy of animation by creating my own films and shorts it's sad that so many of the people in power look down on it as a medium or see it as a stepping stone to live action which is 90% animated now anyway but animation should capture the imagination of all that see it good video dude
Thank you for your comment!
The fact that Guillermo del Toro's incredible Pinocchio just came out
I knew it wouldn’t disappoint.
He’s given us greats such as Pan’s Labyrinth and Shape of Water.
I even liked Blade 2 and Pacific Rim
Animation of any kind isn't just for one person. There's children centered animation (which has gone down hill hard in recent years), animation for teens, same for young adults & adults in general. No matter how old I get I'm going to be a fan because at the core of it all animation is what got me interested in any real form of visual media.
Edit: also can we talk in person? I just started a channel talking about my interests & would love to have someone who has an interest in animation like I do on
A good example of a show mainly aimed for children, but is as entertaining for adults
Is Bluey
I really appreciate these kind of video essays about animation as it’s still not taken seriously as a medium/ literal art form. There is no form of expression that is more vivid and unchained from reality than animation (like you said) and that’s exactly what made me fall in love with this medium.
Also the segment about avatar was just perfectly said I actually got emotional, if there‘s anything in the world that can be described as perfect, it’s avatar the last airbender 😮💨
The only animated movie that makes me cry every time is "Watership Down"(1972) I always found it the most "to each his own" taken the to its rarest.
the ending of this video showing all the works actually brought me to tears.
The MCU is mostly live action but I have a feeling that if all the films were 2D animated. They will hold up better, and some moments would be less cheesy in animation than in a live action-CGI hybrid.
Imagine a 2D animated MCU with the same style of animation as the Disney Renaissance, it would truly be amazing. And it might just bring theatrical 2D animation back to the mainstream.
The horror wasn’t as effective as I hoped to me in Multiverse of Madness because the cartoony CGI effects for the violence contrasted with the live action characters. If it were in 2D animation with lovingly-drawn and detailed gore, it would be much more effective.
Just stumbled upon your channel. It's only your 7th video and this has more effort put into it than a lot of CZcams videos from channels with a million subs. Loved your video man, you are really talented and this is probably the single best defense I would show someone to prove animation isn't just for kids. There are plenty of other videos that cover this topic very well, but your video is on a completely different level. Thank you so much for defending my favorite medium, it nearly brought me to tears. This video actually made my month, I am not joking when I say that. It is also my 20th birthday today so finding your video on this day is such a special experience. I hope you know how great of a job you did on this video. As more people begin to find this video, more love for animation will be spread and people who may feel embarrassed for liking animation will realize that there is no reason to, and I think that's beautiful. The way you described Avatar was beautiful as well. Also before when you brought up The Prince of Egypt as your last movie the way you described it made me think you were referring to the 2017 film Loving Vincent. If you haven't seen that film you should definitely check it out. It's such a beautiful work of art. I would also recommend the Anime Monster that came out in 2004 if you haven't seen it.
Thank you so much for your wonderful comment. I'm happy that I could make something you got so much out of. It means the world to hear kind words like this. Happy Birthday! Also, thank you for your recommendations!
Now if only someone could send this video to The Academy so they'd let animation be judged equally to live action that'd be perfect
You made me deconstruct my fatphobia and I’d like to thank you for reminding me that it’s takes a long time unlearning what society has taught us
I remember that, as a kid, I stayed away from Mulan for a while because that scene where Mulan finds the doll on the burnt down city was the first time I grasped the concept that little children like myself could not only die, but die gruesome deaths. And it hit me like a goddamn truck. Nowadays, Mulan is one of my favorite movies of all time…
As a 28 yo who is always very excited about new animation releases, both in movies and tv shows, thank you for this video
The song leading up to the ruined village scene abruptly ending is pretty disturbing
There’s a reason why I always refer to GOOD animated movies which are enjoyable for kids “family films” instead of “kids films” because if they’re good movies then adults will enjoy it as much as kids so they’re family films (as in films for everyone)
Although I find it hilarious when people say “animation is just for kids” as I can just send them an edit of all the horrific scenes from Watership Down, The Plague Dogs, Padak, Animal Farm, When the Wind Blows, Grave of the Fireflies, Princess Mononoke etc etc 😂
This video just came in my feed and I watched the entire thing.... Best 1 hour of my life.... It's good to see people appreciate animation as an art as much as live action.... People should realize that it's not the medium that defines the maturity of a show but it's the content
Tangled was and is my favorite Disney movie. I related to Rapunzel being an artist when I was little. Then when I started getting into relationships I realized someone I was dating was toxic thanks to mother Gothel, I saw some of the red flags her character showed. Even now I watch it atleast twice a year, and I always catch something new, be it an animated detail or character theme I can relate to in the moment. Tangled is great, I love it so much.
I hope to God this video blows up for you man, I just spent the last hour watching and listening to this while doing some homework that I didn't need to put too much focus on. As an animation student, I think this video perfectly encapsulates why I want to go down the path that I chose and why I love animation so much! There's a lot of shows and films I have to watch over the winter break when it begins and you just added to my list, so thank you!
Loved the video. You reminded me of the experience I had with Puss in Boots the Last Wish, which my mom and I went to watch together. And we were surprised we weren't the only adults! Specially my mom, I knew it had really good reviews but we mostly went for fun. The room was quiet the whole time except for a girl that couldn't stay still for the runtime and asked stuff during the movie. But because the experience was so good, the movie was never cringey, every joke (and I mean every joke) was a hit for the adults and the kids, everyone left feeling fulfilled and surprised by how good the movie was. It wasn't just the message of the film, it was also the legitimate fear that came from Death the Wolf, the bond that Goldilocks had with the bears, how actually hilarious Jack was by being brutal. It was awesome.
I really loved you're section dedicated to discussing some Japanese animation. On the topic of anime, I deeply love and appreciate Osamu Tezuka's (Astro Boy and Kimba fame) Unico series. The two animated films by Sanrio (The Fantastic Adventures of Unico and Unico in The Island of Magic) are my favorite Japanese anime due to it's ability on not shying away on touching darker and sadder moments and imagery. Yet the titular protagonist (Unico) is a very purehearted and compassionate baby unicorn (voiced by Barbara Goodson in the English Dub) who has the ability to spread happiness and manages to empathy towards a few villains. The scene in the manga and 1981 movie where the little unicorn immediately hugs Katy/Chao after learning that she was abandoned by her human owners and lives on a floating basket really got to me.
The climax of "Unico in The Island of Magic" where Unico apologizes to Kuruku (the sequel's main antagonist) after being forced to attack him so he wouldn't get killed stuck with me. Unico doesn't Kuruku, but deeply sympathizes to him due to being fulled by his hatred towards everybody due to being treated and abandoned by his owners (Kuruku's a living puppet) and even insists on becoming "Kuruku's first forever" and promises him "To be his friend forever". Heck, Unico isn't fond of violence unless it's necessary and prefers a more peaceful approach.
I strongly recommend seeking out the official English translation of the original Tezuka manga series. Heck, I'm so eager to read the upcoming re-imaging manga called "Unico: AWAKENING" by Samuel Sattin and Gurihiru coming next Summer. The Unico franchise deserves more attention in the West.
You have earned a sub and my respect. Though there is one movie that though based on a much darker book, has some of the darkest themes any movie could have.
Bare in mind, these themes went over my head as a kid. But I still loved this movie and it was among the ones my sisters and I picked out for multiple rewatches. The themes themselves being memento mori, existentialism, and struggles with one's purpose and legacy(whether maintaining it or wanting to simply build it up). The Last Unicorn. I even finished the novel sometime ago and ultimately pulled up the ost of the film as I reached the end. One of the most emotional experiences I've ever had. Nowadays, the ost still has this hold on me. I've also come to understand the movie more and more over the years and it's now my favorite animated movie ever. Hell I'm getting teary eyed as I'm hearing the track Unicorn and Lir from the film in my head as I type this out. I may not have understood the movie properly as a kid, but I stood by this film for years out of genuine love for it. And from that love grew an even stronger understanding and appreciation for what it holds. I strongly suggest anyone who loves a good memento mori piece, anyone who loves dark fantasies, or fans of Christopher Lee's perfomances(he plays the film's villain) to watch this beautiful film. Hell it's also a film animated by a group who went on to produce one more anime film after The Last Unicorn before joining into Studio Ghibli. At least from what I remember anyway, may be wrong on that bit. Still cannot praise The Last Unicorn enough for just how much power it holds.
The Last Unicorn is fantastic. The more I look at my video the more footage I wish I included haha. Thank you so much for your comment!
holy cow I cannot believe this video is not produced by a massively-followed CZcamsr - the attention to detail, the passion, and the organization of all your points were phenomenal. As someone trying to break into animation and tell these stories for the young adult audience, this is a conversation I've had to have with SO many people. Animation breaks boundaries. It does things you can't do in live action. It truly is for everyone. Thank you for the hopeful outlook and I pray this video reaches much further than just 1000 people. You've definitely gained a follower - and I'm saving this video for later when I need a pick-me-up :)
Animations if storytelling at its finest. A medium unlike any other, where everything is crafted. Heart and soul every step of the way. And to me, often times has felt more life-like and genuine than its live action counterparts. It a medium of which I will dedicate my life to if I can. It's simply beautiful.
Damn, you hit the nail on head. I can’t disagree with anything said in this video. I think I need to make my dad watch this since I have a hard time convincing him how good animation actually is as an art form.
Don't tell my dad, but I wrote a lot of this video like I was talking to him haha. Thanks for your comment!
WOW... I never really comment on videos but this has to be one of the BEST videos I ever watched on CZcams. Hell, as soon as you finally mentioned ATLA, I literally jumped from my seat cheered because I was anticipating for you to mention it!! You did such an amazing job on discussing this topic and hitting every SINGLE nail on why animation is so much more than children's entertainment. Animation is truly an art form, and Japan HAS shown it's potential thanks to anime.
Being born in Gen Z (the mid 2000 kids to be exact), I feel like the popularity in anime was bound to happen. I've watched anime at such a young age thanks to my teenage millennial cousins, just like many others my age. In elementary school we would openly talking with classmates about different anime we watched without any sort of judgment unlike older generations. I feel like with the current rise is only because Gen Z has grown up and gave it the recognition it deserves.
I wholeheartedly believe that thanks to it's influence and when my generation dives into the animation industry, the way that western culture depicts animation will completely change in the future, and be recognized for the art it is.
Hell, it's why I'm even applying as an animation major in art school and why I draw my webtoon, Eye of the Tiger. I want to be part of that movement of changing the narrative of what animation truly is. And I know there's a lot of people out there, especially my age, who feel just like me.
Seriously, thank you for making this video, please continue discussing topics like this. You DESERVE the recognition this video is receiving. I hope for it to grow even more attention in the near future.
Thank you so much for your very kind comment! It truly means a lot! Helps me to stay motivated. I really appreciate it. Best of luck to you!
The How To Train Your Dragon trilogy is one of my favorite animated series of films. I have an unhealthy obsession with dragons, but Hiccup and his fathers relationship has always reminded me of my relationship ship with mine
DUDE. The moment you mentioned Avatar The Last Air Bender.....LET'S BE FRIENDS
I have to say I agree with every point in this video, something I learned from watching animated movies, series, or even one-off cartoons. is that the messages (if done right) can shine through at the end of the day. one example id like on how an animated show can be a bit darker in messages is an unlikely one. I'm a casual Brony and I'm currently trying to get the series watched, and one ep I think of a lot when it comes to "darker messages" is session 5, ep.5 "Tanks for the memories",
the summary of the episode is that one of the main six Raibowdash doesn't want her pet tortoise Tank to go into hibernation for the winter, so she does whatever she needs to in order to stop the change of the season from fall to winter. from keeping the leaves in the trees to even screwing with the snow machines in cloudsdale. Though eventually, she needs to let her Tank sleep.
the end to this ep is surprisingly heartbreaking, as you see dash grieving over her missing her pet. by now you could probably realize that this episode talks about the topic of death and trying to keep those from leaving your side. while the comedy is decent, its the ending that tends to hit the hardest.
another ep is in the session 4 ep 5, A Flight to the Finish:
In this episode, the ponies of Ponyvile have the chance to bare the flag representing their home, and this responsibility falls under the triple threat of The Cutie Mark Crusaders (CMC). However, it's not all fun and games as one of the members a disabled pegasus named Scootlooo, who is unable to fly, is picked on by the school bullies Dimand Taia and Silver spoon. This Causes Scoot to become fearful and give up on the task, that is til Rainbow comes in and talks with her, telling her that it doesn't matter what the others say, just keep up Her skills and talents. this gives Scoot the motivation to ride in the games on her trike.
honestly, this ep's message hit a bit close to home for me, I tend to struggle in finding my worth at times, and admittedly let the words of others dictate my actions. the message in this ep is to be true to yourself and not to let those who have the intent to harm or bring you down get to you. use them to build you up and get better at what you are good at.
I haven't gotten this far yet but I remember the messages from many videos talking about them, these are two of many that stick in my mind, and say what you want about me liking this show. it doesn't bother me. I watch it for the many interesting messages and decent songs. and if I made a mistake in the summaries I'm sorry, either way this is one of many ways "kids shows" can be a little more interesting then the live action with the messages and actions. at least to me
This video hit me so hard I sat still and had to soak it in for about 20 minuets... I loved all the work you put in and I am so happy that you did. I needed this validation of my unlimited love for these wonderful artworks. I cried when you brought in Avatar the Last Airbender. I also grew up into that show when I was young. I tuned in weekly when it first aired and was enraptured by the art, story, and impeccable character development. Thank you so much for all you brought to us today. You earned much more than a like and sub from me, you earned my respect.
With how badly animation was treated, it makes me so happy that puss in boots the last wish has become so beloved since it released.
Not only is it absolutely stunning, but it doesn’t shy away from themes such as mortality, anxiety, panic attacks and the fear of death, it never talks down to the audience to the point that this film has in my opinion the best depiction on a panic attack I've seen
Its a perfect example on why the 'animation is for kids' argument is dumb and shows why animation deserves more respect
Really that overrated piece of trash?!
You can easily find those themes in Animes.
@@KyleEvra true, and if you don't like it that's fine, just don't be rude to people who do
Avatar, Fullmetal Alchemist, and Arcane are absolute masterpieces
God, the amount of times I had to pause this video to go watch a song or sequence in it's entirity bc it was briefly mentioned/shown here is unreal. Animation really is such a fantastic medium
I grew up with so much animation, not from one studio but from multiple both big name and more indie with how overshadowed they are. There are even some animated movies i sadly couldn't find again when i wanted to revisit them. My parent and others did try to make me drop animation cause of the whole wrong view you discussed in this great video "its for kids, thus you are too old for it". While it does happen that people outgrow something, i don't think its ever voluntarily done and more from society pressure. One time i wanted to buy the Unico DVD and my mom refused because the DVD art looked very kiddy and inside my mind, i was simply replaying the scenes of unico having to rescue his female friend from a predatory demon and Unico, in his Alicorn form, killing said demon by pushing his horn right through him. Sure the scene doesn't show blood but its still a fatal kill nonetheless. Today i own various animations on DVD cause i have my own money so deal with it people who say i'm too old for Disney or Hamtaro. Anime though are my absolute favorite form of animation and have been part of my life since i was old enough to watch TV. Pokémon, Sailor Moon, Hamtaro and others made me explore that endless world, i say endless cause there are so many anime out there with more being unleashed onto the world on a weekly basis so there is definitely a set of anime for anyone out there. People may boo at me for it but one of my favorite anime genres is Isekai and i love that cartoons have been taking advantage of that genre as well, not to mention games like Pokémon Legends Arceus. Games are something i thoroughly enjoy as well and just like animation, it has these stigmas it hasn't fully shaken off yet. Hopefully someday, the olden thoughts of society will disappear
I have adored Disney movies since I was little. It's incredibly stupid that someone like Chapek would say that animation is just for kids! Animation is a medium for EVERYONE! I mean, look at the Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, 101 Dalmatians, The Emperor's New Groove, Hercules, The Princess and the Frog. They were PHENOMENAL because they had crisp, fresh animation mixed with excellent, brilliant storytelling that appeals to everyone of all ages! Even adults can enjoy animation, duh!
Growing up one of the few VHS tapes we owned was Iron Giant. My whole family loved this to the point we immediately replaced it when the tape broke. It remains beloved by us all and I hope when I have children, I can share this with them too.
I'm 18 years old I still watch cartoons and I love them all!
Animation can be enjoyable for everyone!
I love when people Mention Black cauldron, to this day i show it to everyone who doesn't know what it is just cause I love it. and i know disney hates that it esists for whatever reason, and the best part is that my uncle showed me the movie when I was 9 and he was 30.
Honestly I actually PREFER animation to live action as like you said you can visit worlds that could never really be replicated in live action,or like non-human characters that look great,or facial expressions you couldn’t get in love action among many other things. It’s truly a form of storytelling art and I think it’s the superior version over live action.
Animation should DEFINITELY appeal to all ages. ESPECIALLY because of the fact that everyone can enjoy these masterpieces and feel satisfied with it.
Wow… just wow… man I thought I was going to go on a wild ride with animation and just be in awe, which I am, but… I think I know what the meaning of life is now because of this incredible Masterpiece. It mentioned stories I already loved but also ones I haven’t even seen yet. And that fact that the people made this were truly passionate and genuine it makes me cry. Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful ideas, Mason, thank you. Stay safe and well. Peace ❤
As an animation student it kills me when I see people of older generations complain about live action films nowadays being shallow or just money grabbers, when there are so many beautiful animated shows and movies out there that just. bombarded you with stuning visuals AND plots, splendid character introductions, ageless morals for all ages...
You could talk about Fantasia too, proof that animation can reach experimental art in a more creative way than live action.
it's not a criticism, I just remembered this fact, it's amazing how animation reaches many types of art. ❤
Fantasia is a marvelous work. Especially for being Disney's third ever animated feature. Radically unique. One of the hardest things about making this video was narrowing it down to keep it from going on forever.
So many great works to choose from!
@@masonidk6571 yes you are right, if you are talking about the whole history of animation the video would be infinite ahaha. But you did a beautiful job, I really admire people who dedicate themselves to their work .Excellent video😊
And Qubo
Speaking of animated movies and tv shows being relatable, here’s a movie that I feel relates to me the most, and that movie is Disney’s Tarzan. Reason for that is because like the character, Tarzan, who struggles to fit in with his adopted gorilla family, I also have that same issue cause throughout my life particularly my elementary, middle and high school years, I’ve also struggled with fitting in. Sure there’s plenty of movies that explore that same concept, but I just like the way, Disney’s Tarzan did it. And that’s exactly why Tarzan is and will always be my #1 favorite Disney film/animated film of all time.
Edit: Also, Tarzan has one of best soundtracks ever created.
Can’t go wrong with the lead singer of Genesis! (Phil Collins)
Animation isn't just geared for kids, as music doesn't just appeals to adults. Cooking and eating is appreciated by everyone. All these facts demonstrate that art as a whole can touch every single one of us, no matter our age, ethnicity, political and social views, humors, etc.
I only got to 17 minutes, so I don’t know the rest of the video yet but to choose regular show above adventure time especially with somebody like Simon and his backstory is crazy
why am i getting so emotional?
Heck, if I ever have kids they will probably get annoyed of me because I mostly want to watch animated stuff with them xD
My dad is one of those people. He doesn’t watch cartoons often because he views them as for kids.
Me on the other hand, I’m tearing up while watching that scene from “The Fox and the Hound” when the widow leaves Todd in the woods.
Ugh, that was so heartbreaking. 💔
I remember seeing it as a young kid and at first didn’t fully grasp the themes but when I got older and rewatched it when it was on Disney Channel after so long I got massively hit in the feels
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@@RB01.10 I know! Especially with “goodbye may seem forever” playing while that’s happening. :(
Phenomenal discussion. I love animation and all of the films and shows you’ve mentioned. I grew up with animated films and anime my whole life. Some of my all time favorite anime are Yu Yu Hakusho, Cowboy BeeBop, Inuyasha etc Samurai Jack, The PowerPuff Girls, Over the Garden Wall, Infinity Train etc. Animation has such a phenomenal way of storytelling that sometimes live action can’t.
Completely agree. Thank you!
Ah yes Attack on Titan, Berserk, Invincible, Devilman, Castlevania
Everyone's favorite KIDS shows!!
I was SO annoyed at the Oscars this year when the live-action Disney princesses came onstage to give out the animation award and just dissed animation as being something to endure for the sake of the kids! 😡
To be honest if anyone ever tells me "animations is just for kids" my counter argument is probably the most simple yet blatant one: If animation is "just for kids" then why do adults CREATE it so passionately? Their claim that animation is "just for kids" goes completely out the window because it simply wouldn't exist without the ADULTS who make it. The fact that animation exists at all is already proof it's not just for kids. If animation was only for kids it would be MADE only by them as well.
My argument is: if it is "for KIDS", then I'm glad it was made so well -- b/c we shouldn't give our kids *crap*. Or ourselves, for that matter.
Watch more animation.
I grew up watching a lot of Soviet cartoons since I'm Russian (26 years old, so I never knew or lived in USSR but these cartoons are still cherished here to this day). And among them, there was a series that stood out the most. One that covered the legends and myths of Ancient Greece. If my memory serves me right, and I'm sure it is, those were pretty dark and mature, even though they aired alongside, say, Woody Woodpecker. Or take the legendary meme itself, Treasure Island. It's not for kids. I mean sure, I watched it as a kid, it made me laugh, but only as an adult you begin to appreciate jokes you probably didn't understand back in the day (also true for many other iconic animated movies and shows, we come back and discover new things). And I remember seeing a documentary about Soviet cartoons, they interviewed people who worked on them, and these people? They're artists, they were and still are so in love with their craft, I have nothing but respect for them. Somebody else has already recommended Russian (and just Soviet in general since USSR wasn't just my country) cartoons to you, I second this.
I also grew up watching anime, and I am still a big fan, although I sure have become more selective now that my options are not limited. My favorite shows include Claymore and Cowboy Bebop. To say that Cowboy Bebop is for kids would be beyond foolish, right? It explores not only the world around the characters but also their inner conflicts, conflicts that children are simply not old enough to understand, even if they enjoy action. I recently watched it again, this time with my mother, and even though all of the action and the general aesthetic were not for her, she really liked the characters because they were so human, so... alive.
Animation is a medium that is not as restricted as live action, and so it allows us to experiment with the wildest ideas our imagination can possibly offer, and different genres too. And, of course, I do not believe that animation for adults must always be dark, politically charged, realistic or too deep... or everything at once. But I simply believe that animation is for everyone to enjoy. If I want to just sit back, relax and watch a show about colorful ponies or, say, an anime about horse girls racing and singing songs (wild as it may sound, it works, Uma Musume is such a wholesome show to watch) just to de-stress, I should be allowed to do so without feeling like it's not something I'm supposed to enjoy at my respectable age. I haven't changed much over the years. I've dealt with loss, a lot of it, in fact, and I had no choice but to accept that some things will never be just the way they once were. And yet somehow I've managed to protect my inner child, I still find joy in simple things, and it's an ability I do not wish to lose.
P. S.: To this very day I am convinced that in the close-up shot of Simba when he looks at his father's ghost as he slowly begins to fade, there are tears in his eyes. Maybe it's just lighting, but this is how I see it, and it makes sense to me. This is what animation is capable of. If this doesn't prove that animation is art then I don't know what will. This is what Disney sacrificed for the sake of realism in the remake.
P. P. S.: Extra thanks for FF7 soundtrack playing in the background, I adore this game so much, it brought me so much joy I just had to mention it c':
Edit: I typed and posted my comment before I got to the point where you talk about Cowboy Bebop :'D But what can I say, this series is, indeed, one of the most amazing journeys I've ever experienced, this is why it's so beloved even nowadays. To me, it was the very show that was there for me when things were rough in life. It didn't solve my problems, it didn't give me answers, it was just there. And for that, I am grateful.
I’m from Croatia and grew up watching many cartoons and among them many were on my CDs.
Idk why but many of them included classics of USSR animation (Snowqueen, The magical hunched pony, 12 months, Jungle Book animated series, my favourite Wild Swans etc.)
USSR animation has a special place in my heart and I always recommend it to everyone, it has such a fluid animation with a beautiful specific style.
Absolutely spectacular video (literally! the editing was great)! You did a great job explaining everything here and the vast variety of examples is appreciated so much, sometimes it feels people are going on like a broken record about a single subject, but this video felt fresh to it all. Did a great job, man. Can't wait to catch what else you do, keep it up ^^!
The Prince of Egypt is perfection. It inspired me to get into art and animation, when I watched the behind the scenes on my old dvd as a young kid, I knew what I wanted to do when I grew up and that passion has STAYED with me for the rest of my life. this video put my thoughts into words perfectly! MHA is my fav series ever, and the animation only enhanced the beautiful storytelling and universal themes of the author's story. And lemme tell you, anyone who's seen AOT can tell u it aint for kids XD I also grew up with the Clone Wars as MY star wars, and Ashoka is MY Luke Skywalker, the same way Rex and the clones are a huge part of my childhood. The themes of moral complexity and individuality were so well handled. And the minute u talked about one of the best shows of all time, I went: ATLA. Definitely.
this has to be my favourite video I've watched this year. I've never been so close to tears after watching a CZcams video before. My passion for animation is so overwhelming at times and seeing others equal that is amazing. Thank you so much for existing.
This video is a love letter to animation