no one knows who created skull trumpet (until now)
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- čas přidán 21. 12. 2023
- today we are diving into the surprisingly convoluted online rabbit hole of trumpet skull/doot doot/mr skeltal.
→ ᴘᴀᴛʀᴇᴏɴ: / jeffiot
→ 2ɴᴅ ᴄʜᴀɴɴᴇʟ: / @extrajeff
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☞ Credits:
→ cathy jarboe:
web.archive.org/web/199902221...
web.archive.org/web/201109231...
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→ some scenes were animated by:
➧veeti ( / @vtaimisto )
➧sil ( / siltheonlyone )
➧johnathan miller ( / jmiller246 )
➧martyckus ( / @martyckus )
➧sonya f (www.sonyafilimonova.com/)
→ voice for “dragon” provided by:
➧eps ( / @epsypolym )
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→ 𝚏𝚎𝚊𝚝𝚞𝚛𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚜𝚘𝚗𝚐𝚜 𝚋𝚢 𝚐𝚛𝚊𝚟𝚕𝚒𝚗𝚐: gravling.bandcamp.com/
→ 𝚏𝚎𝚊𝚝𝚞𝚛𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚜𝚘𝚗𝚐𝚜 𝚋𝚢 𝙳𝚞𝚊𝚕𝚝𝚛𝚊𝚡: www.dualtrax.com
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☞ About me:
Name Jeff (haha like the meme), used to create an ARG webseries called 10 tapes. Now I talk here on youtube about stuff both spooky and otherwise, stream on twitch (off and on) and attempt to hunt down the man that killed my family. I’m also a certified gamer, my uncle invented nintendo. - Zábava
just a couple of things:
1. I am now aware that it is infact "tineye" and not "tinyeye". It is the strongest mandela effect I have encountered, but alas: it's tineye.
2. some have pointed out that cathy didnt create the original 3D model. that is true, and I would love to know the origins of that! but that isn't what I wanted to figure out with this video; i set out to learn who created the GIF specifically, i.e rotated it, edited it, made it into a .gif and posted it online.
3. I've seen some expressing concerns about doxxing, and I want to address that: firstly, all the graphics are "incorrect", for example, the animated map (35:40) is of a completely random place, and screenshots have been altered in various subtle ways like changing peoples names with photoshop etc. that being said, I understand the concern, and I have now gone through the video with youtubes built in editor and blurred out a couple of sections. again, these parts were already anonymized in various more or less subtle ways, but better safe than sorry.
thank you for watching.
Very cool, and quite considerate all the way through. I notice you redacted user names and post dates from byob too!
THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR INVOLVING REDDITORS LMAO
Thank you for addressing the concerns! i subbed your channel last night, am excited to see more of your work!
I *always* read Tinyeye, even though I know it isn't
I called it tinyeye too for awhile, it looks like it should say that 😊
A 40 minutes CZcams documentary about a 2 seconds GIF has better storytelling than 90% of what's on Netflix
I’d even watch this over anything over at curiosity-stream. I’d even watch this over Mr beast’s documentary. Rest well Cathey, you will live on forever on the internet and on the desks of gamers worldwide.
if this was a Netflix original the skull would have came out half way through the documentary.
4 years too late :(. If anyone searched earlier then
.yea
Its 50% "I'm a sensitive young man" filler.
@@maz4rine1269 entertoyment/entertaining and being a wiser person after? that not easy to pull off and more I was at the start, all most click past, is video, but the hook worked here I am, knowing the true story, or should it documentary, of 2 second hand draw gif from nearly 24 old, there people watch this not that old, and there not much of anything on the internet that in a sort of day use, I wonder if there a grave or something in the real world, maybe someone should add marking to the giff, and maybe even this video?
How dare you make me cry over a jazzy skeleton? Fantastic video. Thank you for making it.
You made me watch this
Finally learned about your master's origin
dafuq
Hello, Tomathon Skater
Tom.
I had a similar experience, but managed to contact the artist. He was a graphic designer for Star Wars games, and he says I'm the only person to have ever found his Easter egg.
Star wars has it's own alphabet, yeah? So for in-game computer screens, signs, posters etc the artists need to fill it with something. Sometimes cool technical info, sometimes jokes, poems, sometimes nonsense. So I was looking at a screen in a certain Jedi game reading the blurry letters and translating. (I learned the alphabet in middle school or something when I was bored) Some words on the screen were pointing to parts of a machine labeling them "doodad" and "thingamabob", but at the top of the screen was a name, a short number, and a misspelled type of tree. Having seen this pattern thousands of times delivering pizza, I immediately recognize this as a street address. This artist had literally signed his work.
Now, my wife is a paralegal, and used to make a living tracking people down to serve them for personal injury cases and the like, so she knows how to find contact info from old addresses. I corrected the spelling of the tree name, entered the address and game release date, and the names matched. Obviously the number and address were out of date, but another website gave some potential newer numbers (all public info btw) and a reverse phone book website narrowed that list to two. I made a group text with both numbers, introduced myself and asked if either of them were [John Doe] and if they'd worked for lucasarts around that time. And luckily, one of the numbers was his cell! 20 years later!
I explained the Easter egg I found, sent a screenshot of it, and asked how many people had noticed it. I didn't want to ask a million questions because I could already the mayor of creeper Town at this point. He said he had worked at the developer company of the game (not lucasarts, so he wasn't just playing along), that the address was a tiny duplex he rented for around two years, and that he'd completely forgotten putting that info there, because no one brought it up in all twenty years. I told him it was friggin hilarious, thanked him for responding, and left it at that.
Felt pretty cool being the only one to find it.
that's amazing! :O thanks for sharing
That's so cool! I love these lil rabbit holes handled responsibly.
Make a video essay.
that's quite incredible. I can't quite imagine how the developer would feel that you could track them down to their current address and cellphone number because of some data they imprinted in a game. If it were me, I'd be totally shocked. I'd probably also be flattered that someone paid such close attention to detail. Thanks for sharing your story.
amazing!
Thank you, Mrs. Skeltal. Rest in peace, Cathy.
dude that's weird i assumed she was dead because the stuff was made in 99 and it was pretty mature so that would place her at 45 - 65 and most 80s kids grew up in the chemical age
@@thomasslone1964 looks like someone didnt watch the entire video
If only you had asked me, I would have told you right away, that gif was made on an Amiga2000 with a very old and basic 3D program and ported to a 286 with windows 3.11, some (or many i can't remember) years before the internet.
The trumpet was animated with Aldus Photostyler 2.0 (bulge effect) , the frames were assembled with a program (I don't remember, Gif Movie Gear?) and assembled as 256-colour GIFs.
I was in contact with Katy at the time, this video made me fly out of my chair!
(I remember that her site had a different name, Katie's World, but the data in my brain is vanishing)
If true, this needs to be seen.
So did she know about that meme? Did she stop making art for some reason?
m.czcams.com/video/4Emlv6XAn8w/video.html
This must be it!!!
This is all very exciting.
What would be the easiest way for me to reach out to you with some further questions?
"going SUPER deep into a research rabbit hole to give credit to the creator of a relatively small thing that nonetheless became a huge cultural touchstone" is my new favorite genre of youtube video
yes agreed, it hits all the right spots in being constructive and interesting
Reminds me of Nick Robinson's videos. His quest to find the uncredited voice actor for a game from back in the day is an absolute joy to watch that had positive real life consequences as a result.
But yeah, I love this genre of youtube videos
Of course there is hbomberguy and his oof.wav video
To this day I still get emotional hearing the Disney channel theme because of Defunctland
@projectz975 can you recommend some of your other favorites?
This video goes in with my collection "Who wrote the Disney Channel theme tune" by Defunctland, these uncoverings of forgotten artists are heartwrenching. It fills me with bittersweet joy to see the artists behind cultural landmarks be finally recognised and appreciated.
I was also thinking of that video when watching this! Both made me cry
Was about to say the same! (also made me think of Qinni and cry some more). Great documentary!
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0:22 Wow! I was actually the Wikipedia editor who rewrote that article's "Origin" section back in 2022 (it has stayed around the same since). It was entirely unsourced and poorly written before, so I gathered some sources and gave the section the treatment it deserved (the rest of the article still has a lot to improve). So happy to help you and see over a million people be informed in that video introduction, even just for a minute!
Thank you for making this video. I wish I had known about Cathy and her art at the time and I regret not being able to properly credit her in the youtube video description and in that Gawker article. Very sad to hear that she has passed away. I would like to retract what I wrote in my last message in the video as both you and Cathy put a lot of thought and effort into The Mystic Trumpeting Skull.
Your replies were great, and just for the record/for clarification I don't think you did or said anything questionable to me or to the gawker journalist.
Thank you for helping me figure all of this out.
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Perhaps this is the over-optimistic side of me speaking, (that does tend to happen sometimes) but I feel that Cathy likely knew of the lovely skull gif's proliferation to some degree. Or at least could have expected it.
The way gifs were shared back then, I'm sure she saw hers floating around at some point.
Though I imagine it could have been a shock to her how widespread it is now.
Though I'm certain we can all rest assured she would be delighted to hear it given the comments on her own websites.
RIP Cathy, and long live The Mystic Trumpeting Skull!
Pin this comment?
Internet dinosaur here. I don't think this is easy to understand nowadays, but this kind of animation was kind of a big deal back in those early years - if you built your website, you HAD to put in there a few animated gifs, a midi song and, for those fancy enough, a visitor counter and a guestbook. So people like Cathy were actually performing an important public service, by allowing anyone to get an interesting GIF to plaster their Angelfire/Geocities website with. So, thank you Cathy, your legacy lives on. Doot doot.
I've been so fascinated with the early internet lately,keeps me inspired to work as web-dev even though every website today seems like a copy of the previous one. Every now and then i come across websites that look very personal and dear to someone.
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XD Geocities!!!!! Whoo! Now THAT'S a blast from the past... Thanks for the nostalgia :)
I remember putting a website together as a kid, and I feel so called out. Animated gifs from some PC magazines (mostly spinning cog under construction), a guest counter and a medi I nabed from.... an old game? XD
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I was first getting online as I teenager/young adult when Cathy was making the art we looked at in the video. As soon as you stopped at 2011 I was like "nooooo that website is ten years older!!! don't stop!" This whole video reminded me of the older women who were online and running all kinds of important stuff at the time and are now not just forgotten individually but as a class of people who were even there. Family websites, blogs, art and hobby pages, genealogy pages, forums for anything you could think of. Some of my first online friends were women in their 30s-50s (30 was old to me at the time lol). Anyway. Thanks for reminding everybody and hopefully teaching some other young people that the internet was pretty great before social media 😂
This is a wonderful comment ❤
Rest in Peace, Cathy Jarboe. I hope those that loved her know how much impact she had on so many people
I literally cried at "in memory of Cathy Jarboe". I often get told I put insane amounts of work/research into my videos, but it's videos like this that humble, inspire, and infuriate me at the same time. This better have a million views the next time I see it.
Thank you so much. Just peeped a bit of your latest vid, you got some banger visuals. lmk if you need another hand at some point, I still freelance as an editor :)
youre not alone dude. we all cried ):
I cried too! This was an amazing video. Also, have to say, the original visuals and animations in this video were pretty amazing throughout.
same here, my eyes filled with tears the second that message appeared :')
Veritas!
I love the genre of CZcams where you solve a mystery you didn't even know existed
i can recommend @babylonian (Nick Robinson). he has some cool videos which have a similar vibe (to me), mostly about nintendo stuff
I know, these are so good.
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Problem is.... he doesn't know they exist yet... so gonna be hard to make a lot of these
I love this kind of mystery solving videos ❤
Please recommend some if you know. 🎉
I watched this with a friend just now, and after we finally hung up I just immedietly broke down into tears.
As an artist myself, still adoring your craft is a hard task, and I hope that Cathy spent the most of her life creating. I hope she knew how this silly little gif brought many people together in many ways, even if the purpose was simply so silly.
May she rest peacefully, and wherever she is and whatever she may have believed in, know she inspired a lot of content by other artists.
A doot to Cathy.
The "A doot to Cathy." helped me cope with her being deceased. Thank you.
There's only two videos on CZcams that have ever made me cry, Defunctland's 'Disney Channel's Theme: A History Mystery', and this. Bravo man, this was beautiful.
It is really amusing to me in a morbid way that the final point of contact, the Nephew, is like "please share which of my aunt's works touched you" and the reply is basically Mr Skeltal Dooting at him.
lmaooo
I just feel like I would only be able to laugh and cry at the same time
Honestly 😅
tbh I would think he's a troll
yeah, can't help but feel he was expecting some fancy picture she made that he didn't know about and he gets back a doot, so he immediately just blocked him and thought it was someone taking the piss, I can only hope it wasn't the 2 second video with the sound effect attached
Finding out you had found the right source but accidentally disregarded it was like tearing your house apart looking for your glasses only to find they were on your head the whole time.
My heart literally panged at that reveal, such a brutal moment for the ego
That moment in the video reminded me of the many times I have given up on a puzzle in a video game, went to look up the solution and then kicked myself for giving up when I was so so close.
I just wanted to point out that a jazz skull fortunately would not have the problem mentioned above because it would have nothing for the "temple tips" AKA earpieces on the ends of the arms to wrap around and grip. As a result of this, the glasses would not stay up nearly long enough to be forgotten about in the first place...
@@KenLieck thank you for your insight, Ken.
This came into my recommended feed & I thought to myself, why on earth is there a 40+ minute video about the origin of a gif? Well, I figured I give it a go & just click off if it was boring... This was an absolutely beautiful & informative video. I had a feeling Cathy was going to be deceased as the search for her progressed, but even then, when it was made official, my whole body broke out in goosebumps as my heart sank into the floor.
This video was not only informative & highly entertaining, but it was a beautiful tribute to an artist. Thank you for making it.
Allthough i don't know how i feel about the last part where you tried to contact the family i do want to say that i think it was a great video over all. I can't even imagine how much time you must have spent on research and i think it is great to see another obscure part of internet history cleared and brought to light
Oh man, Cathy's gifs were hugely popular back in the day, everyone I knew in the early 2000s would go to one of her sites to download 'em so they could use 'em on MSN Messenger Plus, including jazz skeleton.. I didn't know its origin was considered "obscure", guess people forgot about her when Tenor rolled around (which is weird since she was a guest of honor at a few conventions and was talked about on quite a few blogs). RIP Cathy, you were a big part of Internet history
That’s so cool!
This at least gives better hope that she was aware of the success of her goofy little jazz skelly.
Now that would be some cool internet history to preserve, in addition to just further remembering the early internet gif scene. I def remember such gifs crossing my path but never knew such sources.
I think that's a major difference between the old wild-west internet.
Compared to the modern day version, Centralised and commodified to hell.
Back then, nearly anyone could get a URL and make a page.
The coding was arguably much more simpler than it is today.
Have an Angelfire, Have a Geocities, or a Beebo page and go nuts.
There were a multitude of index sites to help you navigate,
before Lycos, Jeeves, Yahoo or Google.
Today, everything either goes through Tenor, Imgur or even Discord, Meta data is lost.
To even get a URL today, you have to go through a handful of companies.
Godaddy, Squarespace (with templates that kind of kill off personalisation) and a couple more.
Just to add to a cacophony of people wishing she knew how popular her gifs were.
How she actually shaped the internet, but having these GIFs being as iconic as they are.
lost between generations probably. when something like msn messenger dies there's no skeleton left
Cathy getting the classic artist treatment of her work becoming such a huge sensation years after its creation without her knowledge.
It's like Defunctland's brilliant documentary about who wrote the Disney Channel jingle, it's insane how many artists go into the shadows before their fame could really bring them up to recognisability.
Also, really scary how both Cathy and Alex died in the same year. 2020. I knew that year was evil for something.
Yea, i wonder how many cientist and artist live today who have there breaktrough only after they passed away.
@@Allanbuzzy you know, like covid-19 and stuff.
A lot of artists are often recognized posthumously. Bittersweet.
@@Allanbuzzythe year known for a literal virus that killed millions of people around the world… such a mystery what might’ve happened to all these dead people
I just absolutely love little cinematic intros like that for video essays. It shows that some real effort was put forth in making an entertaining video yet still informative
in this house we stan the idea of cathy jarboe
Brilliant work, so cool to see a mystery solved like this
Wow LIMC I love your videos‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
thank you for linking this
Love your videos
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Oh wow didn't see you there
Cathy Jarboe has achieved true immortality in a way most of us can only dream of. Thank you for sharing her story.
Actually no. Skull Trumpet has/had become a Stand Alone Complex. (Well nearly, save this video. Also depends if this video has legs. I did post it to /ledootgeneration so...)
@@angriimann8349 she's known to fifty thousand people at this point, I think she will be remembered.
@@navienslavement Do trans people live so rent free in your head that you have to bring up bigotry on a video about a skull with a trumpet?!?
@@navienslavement lol, what?
@@navienslavement And you'll never touch one
i like how you said that you were a "small youtuber" with 5,000 subscribers and just a few weeks later you gained almost 100k. keep up the good work! (we have the same birthday dude! sick!)
My one complaint with this video is that you shouldn't have called their phone and have your friend drive to their house without the homeowner's knowledge. Put yourself in their shoes, imagine you get a call from a foreign number and US number multiple times, and then days later someone you've never seen before pulls up to your house unprompted. I know that was not at all your intention, but stuff like that you gotta put into consideration.
I imagine the average person wouldn't put too much thought into it, would most likely just dismiss the phone calls as random scammers and very likely wouldn't think to connect the random person at their door to the phone calls at all.
@@Bone8380 Yea you're probably right. I still disagree with the idea of calling their phone and planning to go to their house without their knowledge over an internet meme though.
yes
And consider that Americans own guns
@@andreylucass Nobody is gonna fucking shoot someone just for knocking on their door you psychopath
As a now old dude who remembers the beginning of the internet, this video made me cry with not only nostalgia but how touching it is. I knew a middle aged lady just like Kathy who obsessed over her “homepage” back in the mid 90s
There was something special about the old internet before it became what it is now. It was 'the wild west' but there was an incredible amount of creativity just for the sake of it.
@@ptonpc yes. It was great. People discovering what its possibilities were. There was new ideas every day
Same! Those were good times
I feel the same. I was a child but I was on the internet around that time too. There were some pretty less known websites and creations I saw back then, that I always thought had disappeared forever. Disappeared from the internet, disappeared from the minds of people. And it made me sad.
That someone would go through all the effort to track down one of those creations and it's creator, feels like it takes away that sadness somewhat. I always thought almost no one else would care to remember, and certainly no one new would bother to search for something they didn't even know existed. And just like that, things that people once cared about would gradually fade into nothingness.
The internet can seem like a callous place sometimes, with everyone just pursuing fleeting, momentary interests and enjoyment. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. But it can make it feel like people online don't really care deeply about anything in particular. It's nice to see something that contradicts that perception, to be shown that it isn't true.
We still say that we “hang up” the phone because of that generation that created conventions surrounding the nascent technology. Just like the “save” icon being a floppy, early Internet surfers created something new that still lives on!
well done, excellent sleuthing
Yoo!! Thanks bud
Not where I expected to see wavywebsurf but I guess it makes sense
Well done indeed, still quite sloppy not checking for the oldest version of the website lol but it ended up not mattering in the end either way :)
@@KodakYarrAt least he owned up to it in the video, and made sure the person that allowed him to see his f-up had a spotlight in the video. I think it's important to show moments where you get lost in the details. It's so easy to do, and it's a humanizing moment for the creator. Rather appropriate, considering the conclusion.
Isn't there a lesson of letting sleeping dogs lie.
If her husband is still alive I think he deserves to know. Great video by the way.
You wanted me to watch the full video. I apologize, i cannot. I started to feel a bit uncomfortable near the end
The message from Ben brought a tear to me eye. A woman who never knew how far her art went. A family who genuinely, almost innocently asked about which of Cathy’s art touch you, not knowing the extent of distance her art really travelled.
A forgotten world wide known artist will now be remembered for all time because of you - so thank you.
Imagine the feelings inside, as you find out your aunts art work has touched someone, someone who has done a wide variety of art. Then you just reply with "doot.gif"
whats crazy to think is that gif will live for as long as the internet exists.
It made me sad her family doesn't even seem to care.
@@WobblesandBean they may just want to live a quiet, private life, I got the vibe that they're all probably in their older years and may not even understand internet/meme culture
after a quick skim of this comment section i was surprised not to find more people mentioning this, although it’s probably just as well that they’re mostly sticking to discussing the gif and cathy herself. i found myself wishing that the beautiful painting of jazz skull could be with her family somehow, that they might eventually see this video, agree to a video chat, anything else, but like this video’s creator i also recognise that our desire to spin this search into a satisfying story is kind of inherently dehumanising. her family probably don’t want much attention, and likely wouldn’t know what to make of her creation’s meme status even if they learnt more about it. her art was always influential and now more people know it’s origin, i think that’s what matters most 🙂
The fact that she passed not too long ago gives me hope that she did know but it also hurts how close you were to telling her
At first, I was thinking, why is this guy obsessed with just an old GIF, but your result has led me to a realization where this guy is a legend, this made me cry, thank you.
Thank you for making this. I cried while watching. Your production quality is so incredible. This video got recommended to me for MONTHS and i finally watched it today. Normally I like to play videos in the background while gaming but...the first few minutes hooked me and i turned off my game to fully pay attention to you. This video has been one of the best videos I've seen this year.
one small correction, when you were going over that "dragon" kid's profile, they didn't actually mention chess but rather skulls. in polish words can be modified somewhat to alter their meaning (zdrobnienie i zgrubienie), primarily to make them seam small or large, example: kot - cat, kotek - small cat/kitten, kocur - large/unfriendly cat. the word for skull, czaszka can be changed to czacha (plural - czachy) to mean large/bad skull, that is most what they were talking about. the word for chess, szachy is very similar, likely thus the error.
interesting, thanks for letting me know. I had a polish person translate it, but mistakes happen!
@@jeffiotadding to this, the terms are diminutive and augmentative for smaller and larger, respectively.
You find diminutives all over: duck -> ducky, John -> Johnny, etc. Augmentatives seen a bit less common though.
@@Bobbias cucumb -> cucumber -> cucumberest 🥒
@@FinalWarrior591 Shouldn't that be cucumbest?
@@Kirbman you'd think so
Cathy managed to achieve what many artists dream of:
Be immortalized through their art by having the creation outlast the creator.
RIP Cathy, your artistic legacy lives on
The quality of this video is above 99% of youtube content and even many films. Thank you for taking so much time to create this piece.
The best video representation of Sonder I've ever seen. 42 minutes covering the slow realization that everything, everywhere was made by somebody who has their own life and experiences unique to them, completely disconnected from your own. Its beautiful
This video has genuinely changed my perspective on everything I see on the internet. Every image, every gif, every video, every song, every piece of audio, every single piece of media on the internet has a creator, a mind behind it that thought something up and put it out there for the world to see. So many other things on the internet have a backstory just as in depth as this one has, and I personally find that remarkable. Say what you want about the modern state of the internet, or AI, but none of that can take away from the human creativity and passion we can witness all across the internet, even for the dumbest of things.
It was a wild and wonderful time to be alive
sorta sonder feeling
But then ai came to town...
Having watched this video you've probably already seen Nick Robinson's video about Michaelsoft Binbows, but just in case you haven't I strongly recommend it. You'll get that same crazy perspective about so much online lore that we take for granted being the result of someone's weird hobby.
@@chux4w This also feels a lot like that one video that made the rounds a while back about the search for the composer behind the Disney Channel jingle. It sounds like a bit of a silly and niche topic on the surface, and maybe you go into it not thinking much of it, but by the end, you're wiping your eyes and feeling like a bit of a different person.
A real shame that Cathy never knew how much her art reached the world.
@ascalpipe wasnt the meme already popular before 2020?, but yeah she probably didnt know even up to that point
She might have. We'll never know.
Nothing can be confirmed if she knew or not.
yeah, it was popular even before the megalovania edits of it @@jainysail2941
Unfortunately the artist who becomes famous posthumously is a tale as old as time. More often than not, humanity does not appreciate creative people until they're gone.
Well damn, didn't think I would tear up at the Jazz skeleton meme. Fantastic video
The way it made me tear up when you said she'd passed away, even though I was kinda already assuming she had died at some point prior to the creation of this video, Says something. I dunno what, but. Something.
As soon as your video got to the section where Cathy wrote about herself, i knew she was likely gone from old age. She was part of a unique online generation of older early adopters. People that had money and skill and creative drive that ended up making most (if not all) of the early gifs. People made those cool spinning skull gifs, flame gifs, and it was an awesome subculture that revolved around making them, collecting them and sharing them. I was too young to make my own gifs back then, but i had a website just like Cathy's (and many, many other geocities websites) where i showcased gifs made from other people. when i say my website was like Cathy's, i mean in its general design; i never created my own gifs.
And i'm not sad that Cathy probably didn't know about her art becoming a meme because her art WAS quite popular while she was making it. This isn't a case of an artist becoming popular after their time, but its a case of art going through multiple phases of popularity starting from when it was created. JoJo has had a similar experience where it has had generations of various memes starting in the 90's when it was released.
Also i knew people from Cathy's generation that were online back then, and they all kind of went offline at a certain point. Basically, the internet just went a different direction and they generally didn't go with it. Its like all the people who were obsessed with BBS posting, but never even bothered signing up for any forums that used the World Wide Web (having an actual webpage). I think Cathy is an inspiration to try new technology as you get older, and to not just stick with whatever was cool when you were 20.
We entered the Eternal September when AOL made the Internet popular and some of the Ents went offline or went into hiding. When social media, starting with Myspace and later Facebook, came around, individual, personal websites started tapering off.
the thing is people forget how weird most people thought we were for using computers for fun back in the late 80's and early 90's. we were nerds but pushed through and connected to each others BBS's to play LORD and download jpegs during the night when no one in the house would using the phone. we are getting old and dying but we will always be ghosts here forever and people will hopefully uncover the stories of what we helped to build.
We had so many communities that are filtered through social media and ads now
True, but to be fair, the modern web is headed in a frightening direction.
That would be such an interesting documentary to watch lol.
God dammit, I was beginning to worry Cathy had passed away and was deeply saddened when that ended up being the case. It's unfair she never got to see one of her artworks blow up and touch so many people. But such is the life of an artist, I suppose. I think she would've been overjoyed. May her legacy live on.
Agreed. I wish she knew
In 2020 too 😢 that year claimed so many people.
Same man 😔
I know I was thinking that too
It would have been too amazing to have the trumpet skeleton artwork signed by her :7 rip
youtube kept hounding me to watch your final destination video and when I finally caved I went "oh, that's pretty good" only to then discover you've kept getting so much better my goodness!
【Shades Finnish Pirates】Congratulations for finding the person you were looking for, i hope the best for you and blessings!
I like to think Cathy knew but she liked a quiet life and decided to keep her cards close to the vest. She didn't want fame; she just wanted to know that people loved her artwork.
just like how all other meme creators are famous
God bless Wayback Machine. I hope that archive remains for generations to come.
This really touched me as a small-time artist online. Cathy made something that became a part of the landscape of the internet itself and you gave that thing more meaning by crediting her and sharing even more of her work. It's good to know that someone can get so passionate about things that seem so small and everyday, to create a dedication to it, and to see that shared with so many others. Well done :)
If you or anyone else agree with this, please consider donating to the Internet Archive, as they really need the money to keep funding the servers
dude, for real. WaybackMachine is an invaluable resource to internet history that must never die.
@@joaovitormatos8147 YES
know everytime i see this gif anywhere, my heart hurts for Cathy and this story that somehow effected my emotions so well 😭its such a random topic, let alone such a random gif, but this whole entire story has just genuinly effected me, great job Jeffiot 👍
Thank you for feeding my whiskey fuelsled 5am video essay exploration 🙏
you know, as innocent as this persons intent was to contact the creator. The fact they found a phone number and address from someone who made a gif in the early 2000's.. it really puts into scale how unbelievably easy it is for any somewhat dedicated person/s to completely ruin someone's life via the internet.
To add to that, try and function without your phone.. and keep in mind that it knows your locations, listens to you, and whatever else you share on it.
tbf i dont think people were nearly as concerned over that back then
I think you’ll be shocked to find out how “easy” many things are for someone who is dedicated. Both online and offline. The thing is many people aren’t dedicated/don’t care enough or they’re just not a bad person. There’s less bad than good in the world. People focus on the bad because it’s different and shocking. Think more positive
Your life won't be ruined because someone knows where you live and your phone number. This irrational fear that doxxing is the end of the world is stupid.
@@johnhunt2390lol. Perfect comment. No notes.
Its amazing how a "derpy little gif" can have such an extensive backstory and make me cry. In the comments it is quite clear Cathy knew how popular her gifs were. Rest in peace Cathy. Doot Doot.
absolutely beautiful piece. RIP Kathy, and thanks to you Jeffiot for existing.
I clicked this just expecting a slightly funny mystery and left with tears in my eyes.
I'm an illustrator myself and have recently been thinking that I should give up because it's not getting me anywhere. I know that boost that Cathy mentioned when people appreciate your work. You never know who it will touch and it really is always worth it to keep creating. Thank you for this video and thank you for this memorable little gif that's made me laugh so many times, Cathy ❤️
Good morning Katrina! Thank you for sharing, I'm sure many of us whom I'm sure can relate to what you're feeling. I noticed your profile doesn't have any links, and wanted to ask if you'd be interested in sharing so we can check out some of your work?
@@undauntedExpounder ahhh I was using the wrong acct haha, but I see you found me :) I want to thank you for asking. That was very kind of you
nah give up, I can tell u suck
This is beautiful. People need to be credited for their art. No matter how long it takes. Thank you for giving Jazzskull back to it’s creator.
Indeed, a lot of artist got credited and recognized for their talents "post-mortem". I'm happy we had the chance to give back this piece of internet history to whom it does belong to
And we have it, the son of the Holy Trinity of video essays tracking down the long lost creative minds behind pop culture, with Defunctland's Disney Channel theme and hbomberguy's ROBLOX OOF videos
💀 Doot, doot
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Rest In Peace Cathy.
Thanks to you now I know who made jazz skull. Thank you.
Someone should make her a wiki page and include all of her art! It is worth immortalizing
Im trying to make one right now, I'll try to add the bare minimum for it to pass the review. After that im hoping someone will pick it up and add to it
@@NovumSB🫡
@@NovumSB She probably isn't notable enough to get an article of her own. You have better chances making one for the GIF and citing any news stories that come out about this. I would recommend checking out the verifiability guidelines if you do want to continue with your draft as it is, though.
Honestly, this feels so much like all the artists I learned about when I was an art major in college and had to take art history courses. This is EXACTLY how a lot of their art was discovered or made. A lot of them died starving and unappreciated having never known of the impact their art would have. It’s a genuine travesty that she joins that list of unappreciated legendary artists. It feels like I’m witnessing art history in the making.
To add to this, It’s kind of incredible how much of that basic principle-artists not getting appreciated for their art till after they die-applies to many more mediums, such as music. Even with artists like bach, you’d think he would’ve had an insane following at the time, but a lot of his fame came decades after he passed. People never understood his insane contribution to music that it went under everyone’s noses. We even see this today with many artists who’ve died and only got famous posthumously, like Wesley Willis. (the rock n roll McDonald’s guy) who knows what other artists are out there, whether in the art world, music world, etc, that will make a huge contribution to society without even knowing it.
@@catalinadog157 Wasn't expecting to see Wesley Willis mentioned lmao. Incredible human being with weird yet catchy and fun music.
R.I.P
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@@noentiendonothing Same the wesley refrence is out there haha. But he is just as much an artist as anyone else! thats what makes art great its subjective and has no boundaries
Idk how I’m just seeing this now I watch these types of things all the time, but IM LOVING IT
How I’m expecting people to respond when I spend more than two minutes working on something:
I hope that, when cathy won an award for her Jazzy Skull GIF, she might've imagine her work going around the wolrd and being an internet sensation on the daily for this many years since and beyond.
I don't know why, but this video made me weirdly emotional, to the point that I cried several times while watching it. this isn't the first time I've seen a CZcams essay discovering the history of some obscure meme, but something about this story just... hit different.
she wasn't an employee in a company making assets to some dead program, she wasn't a professional artist sharing her work online, she wasn't a chronically online teenager who spends more time being edgy online than doing homework, she was an adult woman, a mother and wife, just making a place for herself during the early days of the internet. it was a hobby, it was a way to pass the time, it was something made with passion.
it just makes this obscure meme so much more real, someone with her own life made this, with her own family, not because she was paid to, not because she's a child expressing themselves online, but because it's her hobby that makes her happy outside of work and chores and her own life. it's just... it's real. she could've been my grandma.
in Judaism, we have our version of rest in peace: "may her memory be a blessing". I hope her memory and her artwork will keep living on through the thousands of edgy skull-loving teenagers and Halloween enthusiasts all over the world, and that her work will keep bringing people joy like it did for all these years.
Meanwhile, a few months later, you are at 150K subs. Got to love it - the lottery of it all.
May Cathy's spirit jazzily live on along with her legacy for as long as time.
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Did not expect to come out of this video crying. I will forever think and congratulate Cathy anytime I see Jazz Skull from now on. May her art live on.
Fly high Cathy 🕊️
at first I was like, yeah right, cry, and now at the end of the video I am sobbing
The ending, with the entire monologue set over your IRL recreation of the gif on canvas, was wonderful
Well that was a real tear jerker. What a rabbit hole you went down. Love your storytelling/writing. Can't wait to watch more of your stuff.
Oddly enough, I had a similar thing happen recently to the end of this video.
I use my voice, editing know-how, and sound design skills to dub fan-comics. Because of a problem with CZcams I had to remove the descriptions of my videos earlier in the year. I took this last week off of work, so I decided to re-write the descriptions for all of them.
Since many of my videos are over 6 years old, I decided to check all the links to make sure they were working. Many unfortunately weren't, and while Wayback Machine saved some of them, not all were so lucky.
A couple days ago I finished, but just before I did, I came to a comic I dubbed back in 2020 a bit before my multi-year burnout hiatus. I checked the links to the original artist's account and the last post on the account was from a friend of their's, stating the artist had passed and providing an image of a Russian Death Certificate.
I did a little digging through the friend's accounts to be sure, and it looked legit. Of course, the Certificate was entirely in Russian and it was late, so I went to bed.
The next night, the 30th, I decided to run the image through a translator, maybe for closure since it had been nagging at me all day or maybe out of some morbid curiosity. This revealed the deathdate, which opened up a whole line of thought. I checked my DMs with the artist where I asked permission and realized I had asked a month, almost to the day, before they passed. And the video itself, which they had asked to see when it was finished, wasn't out until almost 3 months after their passing. I had sent a link, but never got a response. Of course, that happens all the time, so I thought nothing of it, but it was such a shock to realize this. To see that art, which touched me enough to make a video about, and which touched many more through my reinterpretation of it, had already been an echo of the thoughts and feelings of a life snuffed out, at its end, before I even finished my work with it. It's a strange feeling, but I'm also happy to know that it means this art was able to take on a new life beyond her own.
I think that might be why art is worth so much more after the creator's death. Not just because the supply is now limited, but because they're the echoes, the words, the dreams of minds now lost, etched into reality after they expire, in stone, or wood, or canvas, or ones and zeroes. I think it's the same reason we look into the eye sockets of a skull with such curiosity. We want to know what they have left to say. After all, they were just like us, and soon, we'll be like them too. Memories and creations, and copies of tendencies and eccentricities copied into all the people we've influenced in our short time, and copied into the people they influence, and so on.
This is a great addition to the video's topic man.
Thanks for sharing this bit of history with us.
This is so eloquently written. Thank you for adding this. I think this is a very true perspective. We really do continue to live on through our work.
Wow, you have a way with words that is beyond touching. Thank you for sharing and summarizing the thoughts of pretty much everyone, or if not everyone at least my own.
thank you for this addition, especially the last part. what a beautiful way to surmise a sentiment i think about so frequently.
Sorry to burst your bubble, its a commonly known fact that art is used for money laundering. Thats why art is so expensive.
She was an artist that was very much in tune with the online landscape. Trust me, even though Cathy was probably in her later years, she definitely knew.
I hope you sent this video to her loved ones, I'm sure they'd love to see all of the loving comments made for Cathy by people that adore her work.
Even if they choose to not respond, and even though the loss may still deeply affect them, they can at least be comforted by the thought of millions of people having seen and genuinely appreciated something that Cathy invested a lot of time into and enjoyed creating.
Yeah, I was thinking to myself, "2011? I KNOW I had seen it used way before then" Glad to see I'm not nuts.
Art is such a wondeful thing. Rest in peace Cathy, thank your for your contribution to the internet
Thanks to Tommy Tallarico for finding the origins of the doot doot gif. Surely his mother is very proud.
It was actually edited by James Somerton. Come on man, learn to credit properly
Guiness world record for the most doot doots worked on in a life time, his mother is very proud.
CZcams brain rot is too real
No way bros name is tallarico lmfao
Thanks Tommy Tallarico for creating the original jazz skull model
I can't help but remember a quote by David Eagleman: “There are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second is when the body is consigned to the grave. The third is that moment, sometime in the future, when your name is spoken for the last time.”
I believe now that Cathy will never truly die thanks to this video, at least not until the last time someone remembers Jazz Skull.
Thanks for this video, it was very well put together and I hope your channel takes off because of it.
16:26 Hmmm… Somehow the message you wrote to Wolf Puppy reminds me of the "My name is Jeff" meme XD
The fact that I just watched a 42 min video on skull trumpet just shows how great of a story teller you are! Great video man! :)
I was a gif obsessed child and somewhere between 2006-2008 I stumbled upon Cathy's website several times and always knew it as the origin of the "brown beckoning skull" and "swamp ghoul" but completely overlooked years later that this was also the skull Trumpet creator. The entire halloween gifs world is only getting more buried as years go on and needs saving! Certain midi files I have heard and will probably never find again!
Fun fact, TinyEye is actually TinEye, and it's a reference to Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn novels, where the word refers to people whose magical power is that they can trace others by eating small amounts of tin. The whole magic system in those books involves eating metal
Thanks, I was about to say the same thing
Damn, wait, it's REALLY a reference? Holy crap. Where does it say that? I guessed that the second I saw the site but never saw proof.
@@FelisImpurrator their blog says it isn't, but 1) I'm assuming they're trying to avoid copyright issues and 2) the story they have for coming up with the name just doesn't make sense to me. Sounds extremely fake, I mean.
@@CJWproductions Dang. Well, I hope it is.
I assume it's because their character is a robot. Perhaps a tin man. His TinEye has seen many images, and he remembers them.
Dammit you made me cry at the end. As an artist we all can only hope of more Jeffs to see our work. People whose heart reflects in the very passion and care they put into each thought. You are a wonderful human, Jeff.
You absolutely are a journalist. Doing something this profound with a silly skeleton meme is incredible work, thank you!
the story telling, script writing, editing, animation, video pacing, music, the time spent researching. I think you carry that passion to create and i LOVE to see it. This was amazing, when I clicked this video I had no idea how pleasantly surprised & inspired I was going to be.
Keep creating youtube needs more stuff like this !
didnt expect to see my goat here. hope youre doing well brother.
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I did not expect to burst into tears when you announced that Cathy had died. I do not know this person. But your story telling let me feel like I did. This video ended up being a lovely tribute.
The moment he found a name, i kinda guessed it was someone who was not with us anymore. I can't tell why.
Same
I bawled like I'd lost my own grandmother. I suspected she might've passed away when he said 1999, but the revelation still gut-punched me especially since it'd only been fairly recently that she passed. 😢
Yeah same. I was like.. she's gotta be old right now, and the chances are small she's still with us @@Tyanu_Khah May she rest in peace and if she's somewhere there, may it be a great place
Honestly, i was sort of expecting for her to be y'know, not with us, and i was sadly right. But her legacy will live on with the internet meme culture with her legendary jazzy skull.
I love that, being from the US, his friend gets a little handgun clip art sticker slapped onto her avatar pic. Brilliantly understated satire, sir.
So, I was a fairly early adopter of the internet back in the day (1994ish, initially) and I... can't even imagine if someone contacted me now about stuff I did back then. I can still remember my first website... neon blue and fuschia and COVERED in animated gifs, all coded by hand in notepad. I was so fortunate to be involved at that point, and to have watched how the internet has evolved over the last 30 years has been mind-blowing. I'm glad that Cathy's work has become such a huge part of internet culture, and it's finally been linked back to the proper person at last.
SAME. Holy crow.
Back then the internet had so much individual creativity, web 2.0 was the start of completely killing it all and corporatizing everything. There's really no parallel anymore, the closest thing of "recent" years was Tumblr. Even the main social media of back then (Myspace) was heavily slanted towards personal creativity.
People who have adopted the internet in the 90's must have been the most autistic people of that generation, especially if they were female. While Cathy was obsessed with creating gifs, you seem to be hyperfused on actor Sebastian Stan. You have a dedicated fanpage on most websites, links to erotic fiction about the guy, his family photos from when he was a kid through highschool, clips from everything he's ever acted in. You have this whole guy's life on showcase, you even get mad at Marvel for not treating his character more seriously.
Whatever gets your rocks off. Internet be wild tho.
What makes me real sad is even though nothing bad directly because of this happened to Cathy, it's still terrible that she never knew how much of an impact to the world her little gif had. Especially since it sounds like she just wanted to make art and get recognized.
And if Rose and Ben could see this. This is not some weird prank or joke. It's silly that a skeleton going Doot is the thing she made a mark on the world, but it brought some happiness into all our lives. And for that, we not only respect her, but honor her.
happens all the time, Kafka Van Gough, Hayden gone to depression for his role as Anakin but atleast he lived to see people appreciate his role
Perfectly said
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there have geniunely been dark days in my life where being sent the "thank mr. doot" meme brightened it. I don't care how cheesy or cringey that sounds (and potentially, is) - it's true.
You cant even imagine how much I needed this.
This touched my heart. Rest in piece Cathy
It’s so easy to forget that this channel is so small. Your stuff is such high quality
Edit: I should have waited til the end to comment. People are behind art and to be remembered is to be immortal.
Thank you Cathy, I love how you enjoyed your art, and I love the joy you’ve inspired in others. She will be remembered.
Thank you Cathy, you made a beautiful spooky meme that will last for generations. 💜🎺💀R.I.P.
Man, is it funny seeing you here, hope the past few years have been good on ya & merry christmas 🎁
@@Kyreria It's been alright, merry christmas to you too bud 🎁
My mother had her own web page in 1998 as well and is going to be 70 soon. I could tell that Cathy was older too because she wrote similar to my mom on her page. My first thought was “it’s been a long time, she might not be there anymore” made me even sadder when conclusion hit. RIP Cathy
"I'm a Polish child, I like corpses and skulls" this tracks with everything I know about Poland
R.I.P Cathy.
Your art is amazing. A trophy of the past and a mark to tell people "Just do it for fun. Not the Money."
Nice thought. That's how it should be, and how it could be, but we are forced to work so other people can get rich.
@@marcomoreno6748you are braindead or a moron if you REALLY think thats stupidity you say
I like how you show Hannah's status as an American by giving her a gun. very accurate, 10/10
A brilliant comic relief after an emotional part. Fantastic timing
I'm an American who DOESN'T own a gun, and I still found it Hilarious.
@@kinpandun2464 for shame. Washington is weeping right now. go buy a kentucky rifle or at least a 1911.
@@ThenameisMarsh i wanna get a gun but sadly im poor, i wanna get one when i get a job tho, thinking of either getting an AR-15 or maybe some surplus military rifle like an M1 Garand or something of that nature
@@ThenameisMarsh what color are your artillery rounds?
dont know why but the video of the guy tapping his CRT screen with the pointer made me so happy
I was a research chemist for several years and deeply sympathize with missing the crucial piece of info right in front of your face. I worked on problems for weeks just for someone to serve up the perfect paper to show me the way through. It's a humbling and painful experience.