Is It Impossible to Move a Hole in a Piece of Metal? No.... Watch This !!!

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  • čas přidán 1. 07. 2022
  • Well you know I couldn't just let it go and call it good. This video shows the process I used to move the hole back on location on my pulley arm casting.
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  • @bobbyvance6622
    @bobbyvance6622 Před rokem +20

    Joe, my mentor when I was an apprentice in 1978 told me two things I should always remember. Simplicity is the essence of design and if you can’t make it right make it pretty 🤩. I’ve never forgotten that advice. Keep up the great work, I am disabled now and can’t machine any more and live through you guys on you tube. It brings me great joy to watch. Thank you for the time you invest in making these great videos.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem +1

      Simplicity is always the goal.

  • @dolata000
    @dolata000 Před rokem +56

    Yes. Your combination of perfectionism and skill is why I watch you. You are constantly improving my machining by challenging me to do better, and showing me how to improve. It's like I'm getting the best part of an apprenticeship without having to sweep your floor.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem +9

      I accept beer, cash and chocolate as gratuities and bribes. :)

    • @JosiahJohnson
      @JosiahJohnson Před rokem +1

      The best part of learning from the last gen is having them rip you a new one when you fuck up. Then they're doing questionable shit like this and moving on.

    • @Suckmyjagon
      @Suckmyjagon Před rokem

      Should've smacked it with a maul .

    • @ingoddaplastafeario
      @ingoddaplastafeario Před rokem

      couldnt agree more! I hope others that see his videos, set their own bar a little higher and learn that even small details are important. He is damn good at what he does for real and it is fun to watch the artist at work. I know i have learned a few things myself from watching his videos.

  • @BedsitBob
    @BedsitBob Před rokem +5

    The man who never made a mistake, never made anything.

  • @trevorwinter5071
    @trevorwinter5071 Před rokem +5

    A lifetime in the drawing office taught me that a good relationship with the workshop staff was one of the most important in life. Their experience was to be respected and was often rewarded by them spotting an error which would come back to haunt me at the assembly stage. A reciprocal of this was that a drawing change could often be accommodated to over come a workshop error. Not all my colleagues took this attitude and had a confrontational and superior attitude to the men in the manual working departments.

    • @rpaulwaddington1858
      @rpaulwaddington1858 Před rokem +1

      Trevor, I agree 100% with each of your points. A toolmaker by training but worked, from the completion of my apprenticeship to retirement as a draughtdman; valued every tradesman who made what I designed/drew. Thanks Joe for your effort.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem +1

      The best engineer is the one with a deep understanding of how the part will be made and by having trust in the guy doing it. It can be a very productive relationship.

    • @BasementEngineer
      @BasementEngineer Před rokem

      @@joepie221 Knowing and understanding how stuff is made, ie. the lack of this knowledge, is one of the great failings of modern engineering education.
      The fact that I worked for Big Blue for 5 years and obtained tool & die/mold maker certification before I began my engineering education, paid off big time throughout my professional career.

  • @johnferguson2728
    @johnferguson2728 Před rokem +3

    Didn’t think I’d ever hear “hanging chad” used in a different context. Thanks for the shop gem.

  • @Reman1975
    @Reman1975 Před rokem +5

    Seeing this casting just reminded me of chatting I had with an old engineer years back. He was showing me an old machine he'd rebuilt (I can't for the life of me remember what it was. it was something "Industry specific", but I can't even remember what industry that was now........ Part of me want's to say "Shoe making" though), and mentioned that he'd had to drill, ream, sleeve and re-bore a hole in a spindly curved arm that stuck out of a small, quite delicate looking, and VERY irregularly shaped casting. I looked at it and asked how the hell did he hold that (expecting him to talk about days making an intricate jig with clamps and multiple locating surfaces)? His reply was one of those "Erm.... What?" moments. He said "I heated it right up, then cast everything except the top of the feature I needed to work on in a block of lead, then I machined the lead to go in my mill vice. Once I'd done everything, I slowly cut, peeled and melted the lead back off it". It was a technique that wouldn't have even occurred to me if I'd had a hundred years to think about it.
    There were so many follow up question's I SHOULD have asked, but didn't think of at the time, Like how did he prevent the lead from sticking to the casting? Whenever I've had a difficult fixture job since then, that guy has always popped into my head. :D

    • @slots1407
      @slots1407 Před rokem +2

      I used to do quite a bit of IPSC shooting, and every weekend would cast lead alloy bullets in aluminium molds. I used to hold the mold over a candle flame (after preheating) to desposit a fine layer of soot on the casting surfaces. No problems with bullets sticking to the molds with that.

  • @tandjrogers
    @tandjrogers Před 10 měsíci +3

    As always, great watching you weave your magic Joe. It's just like watching my late Dad work (passed away April 2022 aged 91.). As a little guy I used to ask "How did you know that (part he was turning in the lathe) was inside that piece of metal Dad?" I called the lathe his 'peeler'. I'm almost 70, just bought some machines and am going into business with our eldest son. I still love being around this gear. I've been in a wheelchair since I was 16 years old and I'd go nuts if I had nothing to do. Keep up the good work Joe. P.S: We live in Batemans Bay, New South Wales, Australia and I drive a Jeep WJ Grand Cherokee Limited V8 and I drive it like I stole it and I love shooting and car racing.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před 10 měsíci

      :) You and I would get along just fine.

  • @Armedlegally
    @Armedlegally Před rokem +3

    The real tip here is........"Make the part then make the print" I absolutely love it!

  • @TheEvertw
    @TheEvertw Před rokem +4

    The word "press-fit" just got a whole new meaning...
    Riveting stuff.

  • @natesteiner5460
    @natesteiner5460 Před rokem +3

    Make the part, then make the print. In the construction world it's called an "As-Built" plan or drawing where any deviation or field change is documented. Those then become the record set.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      Just don't loose the marked up print.

  • @donmadere4237
    @donmadere4237 Před rokem +2

    A true master can hide any mistake! Awesome recovery!!!

  • @frankinpattaya
    @frankinpattaya Před rokem +2

    Joe, your old boss was spot on,,,you did a great repair job,,regards Frank

  • @cameronmccreary4758
    @cameronmccreary4758 Před rokem +3

    In my shop if I could acquire the part before drilling I would make a precision fixture for locating, drilling and reaming the holes. I usually had multiple parts, many orders of the same part so, making a fixture was economically viable.
    Reducing headaches was the, " name of that tune." Nice technique Joe, I've seen quite a few.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      This seemingly simple part presented many challenges. I like fixtures too, but raw castings can be tough to fit.

  • @stevegreen2432
    @stevegreen2432 Před rokem +5

    Good recovery!! I thought you would get a new casting, but this was quicker, and taught a good lesson for others. I am clockmaker, and was taught that you can repair anything, so long as you can't tell when its done. This is a good example of that . Thanks for showing.
    I think Loctite would have been enough, but the squeeze in the vice trick is another good trick.. Us clockmakers just start with a small hammer and "rivet", with an increase in hammer size if needed! The bigger the problem, the bigger the hammer.

  • @russelldold4827
    @russelldold4827 Před rokem +2

    The "save" is every bit as instructive as the original. I salute you!

  • @teamidris
    @teamidris Před rokem +4

    I wouldn’t do the expansion with locktite because of Young’s modulus of elasticity. Firstly because you just don’t need it, but mainly because it will shrink in diameter when you loose off the deforming pressure. I would totally 100% use it without locktite with the casting hole chamfered to rivet it right in there. Nice vid, good message, don’t panic 😱 most things can be fixed :o)

  • @fyx812
    @fyx812 Před rokem +3

    GOOD JOB, JOE.
    I WOULD'VE LOVED TO HAVE WORKED WITH YOU DURING MY CAREER AS A JOB SHOP MACHINIST, I'M NOW RETIRED, AND ENJOY EVERY MINUTE OF YOUR EXPERTISE.
    YOUR "MISTAKES" COMMENT IS TRUE...
    KEEP THE VIDEOS COMING!!

  • @jlippencott1
    @jlippencott1 Před rokem +3

    Pierre of Pierre’s Garage says “Machinists don’t make mistakes, only invisible repairs”.

  • @donniceblakely1075
    @donniceblakely1075 Před rokem +1

    I do enjoy watching, the man is a master in the trade. No blowing smoke. He's taught me a thing or two and I have been doing machine work for 30 years! As always it's a pleasure to watch you Joe.

  • @azarellediaz4892
    @azarellediaz4892 Před rokem +2

    There hasn’t been one of your videos that I’ve watch that hasn’t taught me something, thanks for the quality you infuse into your videos.

  • @williambasinger5859
    @williambasinger5859 Před rokem +4

    The green lock tight is for sleeve retaining and better for this application than the red or blue

  • @OMGITSMRMACK
    @OMGITSMRMACK Před rokem +3

    Green is the lock tite you want for sleeves and things into place.. for anyone wondering.

  • @williammills5111
    @williammills5111 Před rokem +2

    Joe- the only guy that makes no mistakes is the guy who does nothing. Great recovery, thanks for posting!

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      Technically, the part was to print, just not cosmetically aligned. Not acceptable.

  • @michaelcoceski5442
    @michaelcoceski5442 Před rokem +2

    Only two types of people have never made a mistake. Those that have never made anything and liars. That was an excellent recovery Joe.

  • @drevil4454
    @drevil4454 Před rokem +3

    Joe is a perfectionist for sure.

  • @robertdinicola9225
    @robertdinicola9225 Před rokem +3

    Ive done that in the field. Threaded the hole, it was steel, red lock tite a stud and re drill. The green horn listened next time i told him to do it at tbe shop to test the fit. He didnt want to assemble and disassemble before instalation. At least helearned two things that day. 1 listen to tge man thats been doung it for 20 years. 2 how to move a hole.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      What....Listen to the man with 20 years of hands on experience......What a concept.

  • @georgehollowell9295
    @georgehollowell9295 Před rokem +2

    Another masterful job. I always appreciate the "tricks of the master" gems of wisdom you provide. Thanks

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      Pass them on to someone new.

    • @georgehollowell9295
      @georgehollowell9295 Před rokem

      @@joepie221 I'll point them to your channel. You've presented so many tips that I have to go back and re-play the videos to find what I'm looking for.

    • @georgehollowell9295
      @georgehollowell9295 Před rokem

      @@joepie221 of course. Useful knowledge should always be passed on.

  • @mole3790
    @mole3790 Před rokem +2

    Very nice recovery. Nothing wrong with making it right. Thanks for your continuing videos.

  • @ferrumignis
    @ferrumignis Před rokem +4

    Nice recovery, I'm always impressed how well the blasted surface mimics the cast surface. One query though, shouldn't the mounting holes be spot faced as the top surface likely isn't parallel to the mounting face?

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 Před rokem +3

    I similarly often burnish bushings into bores to really get a tight fit.

  • @Ujeb08
    @Ujeb08 Před rokem +1

    That's a nice fix Joe! Like your mentor said to you, mine said a similar statement. "Every toolmaker makes mistakes. But a good one knows how to fix them!"

  • @MalJ-eb7nv
    @MalJ-eb7nv Před rokem +1

    A very good technique. Many good techniques are not always learned from texts. "That old German guy" most of us have run into in our travels has so much practical experience he is worth listening to.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      Everytime he spoke, I listened.

  • @petersantoro5323
    @petersantoro5323 Před rokem +5

    You could 3D print this with corrections and recast it

  • @jamesdrake2378
    @jamesdrake2378 Před rokem +3

    the infamous hanging chad, some people are too young to remember this, thanks for the content and greetings again from the NJ Bayshore. Not to crack your huevos but I thought green loctite was used for this purpose?

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      I'm sure there were better choices.

  • @theodoreshasta7846
    @theodoreshasta7846 Před rokem +1

    Superb workmanship! I love watching you work. Sleep well. You’ve earned it!

  • @MoondyneJoe
    @MoondyneJoe Před rokem +2

    Very impressive fix Joe,
    I used to do a lot of leather belt making (for people to wear) I would hand stamp 200 to 300 metal stamps ( up and down stamp in left hand wooden mallet in right NOT MACHINE STAMPING) some belts needed a second run to complete the pattern I was creating thus double the no of stamps, each side of the belt by hand, you get into a mechanical rhythm and each stamp is on the leading edge of the one before that process would take me approx 7 to 10 minutes to do
    If on a rare occasion I like most leather workers used the Golden rule, Dye covers a multitude of sins 🤔 but like you, being the maker of the product you Always knew that imperfection was there, even though nobody knew it (I always felt guilty even at the one miss out of 1000's of stamps)
    I used to demonstrate my skills with other crafts people in shopping centres, selling our wares and attracting customers to the centre
    and making a healthy
    income 😁
    It is interesting that when you have been doing your "craft" for years the "saves" you discover or create along the way seem like magic to those not in the same craft as you are.
    I think that these like you have been showing us are extremely important to give others the leg up they need in desperate situations.
    I find that inventive side of people's skills often more interesting than the project at hand sometimes.
    Like a farmer has to create some Heath Robinson event out of binder twine and 100 mile an hour (duct Tape) tape to get his job completed.
    Thank you for yet another good tip
    Tony from Western Australia 🇦🇺

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem +1

      I admire leather belt makers. Great skills.

    • @MoondyneJoe
      @MoondyneJoe Před rokem

      @@joepie221 😁 likewise for excellent machinists'

  • @willywonka8730
    @willywonka8730 Před rokem +3

    Musta missed it. How did you get the hole centerlines perpendicular to the base?

  • @SeanReevesD
    @SeanReevesD Před rokem +5

    My dumbass blew my screen after you drilled the second hole in the base. 🤦‍♂️

  • @TomokosEnterprize
    @TomokosEnterprize Před rokem +2

    I have faced this problem too many times to count. Generally from other mechanics treading where they shouldn't have been in the first place. Nice tip on the squishing of the repair slug. We had a fleet of older D8 dozers that were all affected with their R hand Rear engine/torque converter bolt holes in the frame all pounded out/stripped etc. My go to for repairing them was to drill and tap for an over sized 1 1/2 inch Grade 8 NF bolt. I stopped short of running the tap all the way through leaving a tapered hole on the bottom. I took that bolt and made a slot around it and after a good dose of red Loctite screwed that bolt into the freshly tapped hole and turned it in place till it snapped off proud of the hole. It was just a matter of decking it and re drilling and tapping for the 1 inch coarse mounting bolt. 10 tears later the repairs were all good. I have used this method om many more repairs over the years. That old mag drill and I saw a lot of repairs over the years. Great fix my friend. My granddad always said, "only the pro's can fix their mistakes". Words I will take to my grave.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem +1

      Its also always easier to fix if someone hasn't butchered it before it lands on your bench.

    • @TomokosEnterprize
      @TomokosEnterprize Před rokem

      @@joepie221 It was rare that by the time it got to me it was easily repairable. It was like getting an engine in a couple boxes. It often would take a 1/2 a day to semi blue print them to see wat I was in for. Missing fasteners were always a problem. Then wait while a decision was made to repair or scrap. I would often save some pieces for the rare days I had time to poke away at them. Those successes were the biggest feather in my cap. I would rather just call it a short day and just go home. A win, win for the shop and myself. It's always nice when we chat as we have walked a similar path. Take care eh.

  • @campbellmorrison8540
    @campbellmorrison8540 Před rokem +1

    I'm amazed at how that blasting merged those two totally different materials together, I would have bet the brass would have stood out.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem +1

      Both pieces were aluminum, just different densities.

  • @jjtt7408
    @jjtt7408 Před rokem +3

    THE HOLE IN THE TOP OF THE CASTING ( THE HOLE YOU ARE FIXING ) HAS TO BE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE TWO HOLES THAT ARE IN THE BASE OF THE CASTING , AND TO THE BOTTOM OR CALL IT THE BASE OF THE CASTING THAT IS MILLED FLAT / AND THAT HAS THE TWO HOLES THAT ARE 90 DEGREES TO THE MILLED BASE OF THE CASTING / AND THAT IS WHERE YOU SHOULD LOCATE FROM TO DRILL ,REAM OR BORE OR WHAT EVER YOUR DOING TO FIND THE CENTER FOR THE TOP HOLE (THE HOLE YOU ARE REPAIRING ) ** I NOTICED THAT YOU DID NOT USE A TOOL MAKERS SQUARE TO CHECK THE ROD YOU PUT IN THE HOLE TO SEE IF IT WAS SQUARE TO THE BOTTOM aka BASE OF THE CASTING WITH THE TWO HOLES / AND YOU DID NOT CHECK TO SEE IF THE CENTER OF THE ROD WAS IN CENTER OF THE TWO HOLES IN THE BASE (THOSE ARE THE 3 POINTS THAT HAVE TO BE IN TOLERANCE WITH OTHER ) / TWO OLD GERMAN TOOL AND DIE MAKERS TAUGHT ME LOTS OF MY TRADE / THEY SAID IN GERMANY TRADE SCHOOL TO SEE IF YOU CAN EVEN BE A MACHINIST THEY GIVE YOU A TOOL MAKERS SQUARE , A FILE , AND A ONE INCH MIKE AND A HUNK OF STEEL AND YOU CAN USE A BENCH VICE TO MAKE A ONE INCH CUBE THAT IS SQUARE AND TO TOLERANCE IF YOU CAN DO THAT THEN ONLY THEN THEY WILL TEACH YOU THE TRADE /

    • @Philly_Gamer
      @Philly_Gamer Před rokem +2

      WHY ARE YOU YELLING!

    • @DrDelvan
      @DrDelvan Před rokem +1

      LOUD NOISES

    • @paulojrg
      @paulojrg Před rokem +2

      @@Philly_Gamer He's in the machine shop with everything going on at the same time.

    • @reddogknives
      @reddogknives Před rokem +2

      Loss of hearing from 50 years in the Machine Shop

  • @MrCrispinEnterprises
    @MrCrispinEnterprises Před rokem +4

    Nice fix! I hadn't seen that trick of squeezing the insert in a vice to expand the ends. Clever and I expect it helps to hide the join. Cheers.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem +1

      Thanks Crispin. Pressing a bushing into a part with only one machined surface can be an alignment recipe for disaster. This method was much safer all around.

  • @CraigsWorkshop
    @CraigsWorkshop Před rokem +2

    Excellent lesson, thanks Joe. I will remember that vise trick. I may even add a countersink on both sides of the hole (perhaps if the casting was larger) to really lock it in, rivet style. I have seen metal dovetails done similarly with extra material and then a peening operation. Metal is a wonderful material! Thanks again, Craig

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem +1

      A countersink is a good idea when the material will take the pressure needed to peen the slug. I didn't think this cast aluminum would hold.

  • @cavalieroutdoors6036
    @cavalieroutdoors6036 Před rokem +1

    "A good toolmaker will always make mistakes - but no one will ever be able to find them."
    I was once told the same regarding mechanics. It's interesting how much cross over there is among some trades.

  • @panther105
    @panther105 Před rokem +3

    Let's weld it shut and redrill..!!

    • @JosiahJohnson
      @JosiahJohnson Před rokem +1

      Valid in a lot of jig building. Shit, beating some allthread in and sanding it pretty is often valid.

  • @paulrichmond8392
    @paulrichmond8392 Před rokem +3

    You used a pin to align a crooked hole? That's why bottom looks off center compared to top,or did I miss something

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      Using the pin helped to keep the bushing true to the original hole. Its a space thing. The new hole was located from the outer face of the boss and top surface.

    • @paulrichmond8392
      @paulrichmond8392 Před rokem

      @@joepie221 thank you,makes sense

  • @BasementEngineer
    @BasementEngineer Před rokem +1

    Well, when I served my apprenticeship waay back when with Big Blue, we were taught to put the oversize hole in exactly the required location, sizing this bore the way Joe P. described in the video.
    Then simply turn a bushing and glue it in place with Eastman's 910 glue or epoxy cement if the mounting was fragile. A sliding fit provided sufficient space for the glue or epoxy, especially when both the bore and the bushing were coated with the adhesive.
    For punch and die work the bushing was heat treated and made a press fit.
    Eastman's 910 glue was the precursor of instant glue or Crazy Glue, and was developed for medical/surgery purposes.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      Big Blue in what state?

    • @BasementEngineer
      @BasementEngineer Před rokem

      @@joepie221 In Toronto, Canada, and Rochester in Minnesota.
      Also visited a new plant in San Jose, Calif. at that time.

  • @neongecko
    @neongecko Před rokem +1

    Your Journeyman's saying reminds me of what mine used to say, "The difference between a tradesman and a craftsman is the lengths the one will will take to fix their mistakes."

  • @kjamison5951
    @kjamison5951 Před rokem +4

    "Is It Impossible to Move a Hole in a Piece of Metal?" Yes.
    Is it impossible to use a repair method to relocate a hole in a piece of metal? No.

  • @julesslim8229
    @julesslim8229 Před rokem +3

    Total amateur here so forgive me if this is a stupid question. But why not fill the hole by welding or brazing and just re-drill it?

    • @KiwiBassHead
      @KiwiBassHead Před rokem +3

      The part is cast aluminium and EXTREMELY small so you would more than likely end up with a molten puddle of sadness in this instance. Also small relatively deep holes are very hard to fill 100% with no gas bubbles that would become flaws in the re-drilled hole and lastly, if the filler metal was not a good hardness match to the base material re-drilling a hole and keeping it straight when it is half and half in materials of different hardness can be challenging. Filling and re-drilling is definitely a valid approach in some situations but probably not IMHO the best way to approach this one.

    • @hetrodoxly1203
      @hetrodoxly1203 Před rokem +2

      Easy weld job, most engineers would bush it because that's also simple.

    • @troth6251
      @troth6251 Před rokem

      Jules it's not a stupid question, it is one of the easy ways of going about it.

    • @codetech5598
      @codetech5598 Před rokem

      JB Weld!

  • @DjClarky78
    @DjClarky78 Před rokem +1

    I'm in aviation, and do a lot of riveting.
    Had you thought about putting a slight countersink on either side of the hole (more like a heavy deburr) before inserting the bush and squashing in the vice? You could have then filled the countersink when the end of the bush squashed over, and machined off the excess, which would have helped locate the bush more positively. We call this a double flush plug in the trade.

  • @ashesman1
    @ashesman1 Před rokem +2

    As a fellow perfectionist I was left panicking after the last video. I thought I was going to have to find a new machinist idol! But now totally redemed yourself. This is what separates the men from the boys...

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      Whew, that was a close one. Thanks for sticking around.

    • @ashesman1
      @ashesman1 Před rokem

      @@joepie221 Thank you for continuing to make great, no BS, practical videos. I have learnt so much from them.

  • @olalavesson8157
    @olalavesson8157 Před rokem +2

    I don't think I've ever seen anything more "backwards"

  • @jodystradesstuff5048
    @jodystradesstuff5048 Před rokem +3

    This is the stuff that I made money on as a welder. Just fill it in with weld metal and the machinist can drill it out right.

  • @dougbriggs6797
    @dougbriggs6797 Před rokem +1

    I did a similar thing when I oversized one hole in the apron. I accidentally punched the 1/8: all the way through (not paying attention to print). I snipped a section of some 1/8" aluminum grounding wire and peened it into the hole with a flat faced punch (but no loctite). Milled and drilled to the correct size hole and moved on.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem +1

      We all have oops moments. How we handle them is the challenge.

    • @dougbriggs6797
      @dougbriggs6797 Před rokem

      Correction: Table, not Apron.

  • @williamlind2843
    @williamlind2843 Před rokem +1

    Brilliant idea squishing the plug. I have been thermal fitting everything for years. I love new information!!!

  • @brandonedwards7166
    @brandonedwards7166 Před rokem +3

    Tig weld it, drill a new hole. simple.

    • @Chris-5446
      @Chris-5446 Před rokem

      That's exactly what i thought too at the beginning of the vid. Lolol

    • @brucehart4627
      @brucehart4627 Před rokem

      Me too

    • @hetrodoxly1203
      @hetrodoxly1203 Před rokem

      It would depend on what mood i was in as it would have taken me about the same time to do both ways.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      I'd put money on the fact that tig welding it would have blown it away.

    • @hetrodoxly1203
      @hetrodoxly1203 Před rokem +1

      @@joepie221 You'd have lost your money, that's just everyday simple welding to me.

  • @kjoyner1
    @kjoyner1 Před rokem +4

    Since the material was aluminum, I would have considered prepping the original hole and then pouring an aluminum filler. The finished product would have been the same but without the possibility of a blowout.

    • @camiemengineer
      @camiemengineer Před rokem

      Seems a good solution, Ken .. but then no demo video! How would you have prepped the hole? what if the melting points were slightly different due to impurities? (would you get the equivalent of a "dry joint")

  • @vernowen2083
    @vernowen2083 Před rokem +2

    Reminds me of my days working as a machinist in an engineering Proto shop. Can't tell you how many times I had to rework 💩, because an engineer got a dimension wrong. Happily retired now. PS I was so happy when I got digital readouts for the mill! Telling my age, lol.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      Do you remember Trav-A-Dials?

    • @vernowen2083
      @vernowen2083 Před rokem

      @@joepie221 Used them often on tight tolerance milling, but hated the time waste setting them up.

  • @AmateurRedneckWorkshop
    @AmateurRedneckWorkshop Před rokem +2

    Great save and you are right it does look a lot better. Thanks for the video.

  • @firstlast8252
    @firstlast8252 Před rokem +3

    Can I ask why not use an aluminum brazing rod, Fill the hole, then redrill it from there?

    • @TheDJOblivion
      @TheDJOblivion Před rokem +1

      The heat will destabilize the metal and weaken the work piece, since the casting is so small you wouldn't want to weaken those hole walls by oxidizing any of the aluminum or changing metal stresses.

    • @1nvisible1
      @1nvisible1 Před 7 měsíci +1

      *And if there's only one of these parts in the Northern Hemisphere (as I frequently hear the equivalent of), Even tigging it aluminum is just so hard to see when it gets liquid vs when it just melts into oblivion, if it's recycled aluminum and has impurities sometimes they'll blow out without advance notice etc. But.. if you've got to do this to fifty parts (because someone is paying of course), I would do it your way*

  • @orangedream267
    @orangedream267 Před rokem +3

    There IS loctite specifically for fits like this. It's the green stuff. Works aight.

    • @BjornV78
      @BjornV78 Před rokem

      The color on Loctite products means nothing. Loctite 270 and 290 are also green and not the right ones, those are suited for locking threads.
      The one you meant is Loctite 648, suited for fixing gears and cylindrical parts. Loctite has a very wide range of products in 4 colors. Grtz

  • @arthurirwin8235
    @arthurirwin8235 Před rokem +1

    I would never thought to press the bushing with the vice. Great job!

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem +1

      The vise only expanded the slug. I technically pressed it by hand.

    • @arthurirwin8235
      @arthurirwin8235 Před rokem

      @@joepie221 LOL!!!! I should have caught that!

  • @Gamerock82
    @Gamerock82 Před rokem +1

    You sir, are a master of your craft. Dr Pie, reconstructive surgeon extraordinaire. If I was a couple decades younger or could go back and slap some sense into young me, I'd be applying for an apprenticeship for sure. Superb fix, thanks for bringing us along for it. Cheers to peace of mind.

  • @Ohenry92
    @Ohenry92 Před měsícem

    This channel is so helpful. I’m learning like 5 new tricks an episode. Thank you Joe!!!

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před měsícem +1

      Excellent. I try to include value in all of them.

  • @dick8193
    @dick8193 Před rokem

    I had a hunch that man with your disposition and skill would not surrender to sourcing another casting. You did not disappoint! Thank you.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      I did source one, but it hasn't arrived at the time of this video. I reconsidered the situation and had to fix it.

  • @franktuckwell196
    @franktuckwell196 Před rokem +1

    I am never gonna be able to do work to your excellent standard, but if i gain one little bit of knowledge through watching your simple to follow solutions, then its all been worth while. Its a pleasure to watch somebody who not only knows what they are doing, but are willing to explain it so a dummy like me can understand, thankyou once again. Mind you if i can apply these principles to wood working it would help a lot, so still win, win.

  • @nigesbasementworkshop9541

    Great job Joe and thank you for publishing your recovery of this part, it makes us all better machinists.

  • @ChrisB257
    @ChrisB257 Před rokem +1

    Vive le fix Joe - you definitely won this round! Very nice work sir and super satisfying :)

  • @blacquejacqueshellaque6373

    As an engineer who works in the field a lot, we have "made the part and then the print" many many times. As long as the math all checks out, I have no issues stamping something an experienced mill wright, mechanic, or machinist has made. Most times it's better than what I could have come up with.

  • @wallbawden5511
    @wallbawden5511 Před rokem +2

    i knew that this would bug you till you found the right fix for it was hoping you would use the squash fix as i was taught this also by my mentor at the time and have used it a couple of times thanks for showing again as i have not used for a lot of years

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      Its a good thing to see and remember.

    • @wallbawden5511
      @wallbawden5511 Před rokem

      @@joepie221 must admit until i seen you doing it i remembered it so was a forgotten gem on my side but have not had the chance to use it either

  • @vazza7504
    @vazza7504 Před rokem +1

    Brilliant job there fella, patience of a Saint and so meticulous with the setting up of the different tooling process. Top job. Thanks for video, Vinny.

  • @hossanderson643
    @hossanderson643 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for showing a Mistake. I've been watching you for quite a while and your abilities are absolutely incredible. This is why I am so pleased for you to show a mistake, and then how to fix it. I wish more CZcamsrs would show their mistakes and how they fix them. I feel that most humans learn much more from mistakes than from seeing perfection each and every time. This is one of the things that I enjoy about Blondiehacks so much is her humility and showing mistakes and alternate methods. Please Do Not take this as a criticism, but rather as a Huge thanks for the showing of a problem and solution from such a master machinist. Your teaching is world wide known and we appreciate it greatly. Thanks Hoss

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem +1

      The part was actually to print, but cosmetically it just wasn't up to the standard I want to hit. It was a good opportunity to show the adjustment. Thanks for watching.

  • @stanmacdonald1073
    @stanmacdonald1073 Před rokem +2

    Thank you for another great video and thank you for sharing your mistskes and well-thought repairs. You should be able to sleep well now!
    I love the paper punch hole center-finder. Alternatively, one could use a continuity checker to detect contact. Insulate the pin in the chuck and use a pin a mil or two smaller than the hole. Connect the continuity checker between the part and the pin. When you have no continuity you are centered.
    If your eyesight is poor, you can't tell your shaking hands from the pin displacement and the ringing in your ears keep you from hearing subtle clicks the continuity beep does the trick, well unless your working with Delrin!

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      All ended well. I have seen the continuity tester used. Like a electronic edge finder or CMM stylus.

  • @aaronholmes8568
    @aaronholmes8568 Před rokem

    Brilliant to watch a skilled craftsman at work. Great problem solving and explaining what you're doing and why. I trained as a heavy truck mechanic but I've always admired engineers.

  • @onlooker251
    @onlooker251 Před rokem

    This video is brilliant. You’ve recovered a job that we’re all familiar with - when small errors creep in and instead of throwing it away you’ve corrected it.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem +1

      I considered starting over, but that would be cheating.

  • @lordphullautosear
    @lordphullautosear Před rokem

    It's a pleasure to watch a machinist with the right knowledge and the right tools. Nicely done, sir. Subscribed.

  • @DavidHerscher
    @DavidHerscher Před rokem +1

    There are very few channels where i, SMACK that like button, before the video even starts, because i know I'm gonna learn something new. Joe Pie is one of those channels.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem +1

      I appreciate the confidence. Thank you.

  • @geomark41
    @geomark41 Před rokem +1

    Well, we all knew this was coming. What a great lesson. Thanks mate.

  • @77.88.
    @77.88. Před rokem

    You are the results of many, many years of experience, Thanks for passing it along!

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      Its been my entire life. First full time machinist job in 1975.

  • @mhc6777
    @mhc6777 Před rokem +1

    Thanks again Joe. Expanding the plug in a vice is yet another Joe Pie tip I wish I had thought of - I've threaded or peened in more robust parts but hadn't thought of gently squeezing the bush/plug in more 'delicate' parts.
    Mike

  • @sandersn4
    @sandersn4 Před rokem +1

    Excellent recovery...glad you decided to go with the larger centering pin. Switching to using the outside of the casting boss for your alignment surface made all the difference. Relocating the mounting holes on the main machine should be no real big deal. Great job.

  • @jt5081
    @jt5081 Před rokem

    Wow what a difference that made. Admire your skills. Thanks for your time and effort, can't be easy admitting a mistake.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem +1

      Thank you. As much as the occasional mistake bugs me, I like taking a second look at it and learning the 'why'. Its usually a palm to forehead moment. I have a shop memory like a steel trap and will rarely repeat the same mishap twice.

  • @greglaroche1753
    @greglaroche1753 Před rokem +1

    Glad to see you used some Locktite, but squeezing the bushing like a revit is a neat trick to know. Thanks as always for your videos.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      I don't usually use loctite for things like this, but thought it couldn't hurt.

  • @farmalltomf
    @farmalltomf Před rokem

    Joe, great recovery video. Nice result and great nuggets of wisdom! Well played my friend!

  • @nhrifle
    @nhrifle Před rokem

    I've done that a few times in both metal and plastic, works like a charm. Nice demonstration.

  • @alwaysbearded1
    @alwaysbearded1 Před rokem

    Great recovery. Fixing things is part of any field and you are superb at that.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      Thanks. I enjoy the challenge.

  • @MichaelMoranGearHead
    @MichaelMoranGearHead Před rokem

    This video was full of great tips. People in every occupation make mistakes. The ability to make those mistakes invisible so they do not matter is what separates the professionals from the amateurs. Thank you for giving us insight into how some of that is done in machining.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      Thanks for watching. I hope its helps someday.

  • @garygruber1452
    @garygruber1452 Před rokem +1

    absolutely brilliant. the simplest solution is always the most elegant.

  • @pedropenduco3180
    @pedropenduco3180 Před rokem

    You're an artist Joe, it's a pleasure to watch you work!

  • @RRED2
    @RRED2 Před rokem

    Your channel is very interesting and refreshing, I like the fact that you show all of us how to rectify a problem or a mistake. Keep up the good work. 👌

  • @monkfry
    @monkfry Před rokem +1

    Like that slight squish, vice spring trick, plugging the hole while blasting yadayada. Good stuff as usual.

  • @cosimomarotta9552
    @cosimomarotta9552 Před rokem +1

    Brilliant! Thank you Joe to share your skills with us hobbyst machinist.

  • @grahammorgan9635
    @grahammorgan9635 Před rokem

    Hi Joe, lovely to see the shop gremlins have found their way to your shop , just momentarily, instead of residing in mine, great recovery and great result, I learn heaps from your videos so thank you for sharing

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      Those gremlins are always looking to start trouble.

  • @angelramos-2005
    @angelramos-2005 Před rokem +1

    The idea of the expanded plug is brilliant.Thank you.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      thanks. Much safer than a full length press fit.

    • @LTVoyager
      @LTVoyager Před rokem

      Yes, we call it riveting in the aviation industry and it has been around for a long time. 😁

    • @angelramos-2005
      @angelramos-2005 Před rokem

      @@LTVoyager Thank you Sir.It is very kind of you to let me know.Take care.

  • @kentuckyblugrass
    @kentuckyblugrass Před rokem +2

    This channel is a gem 🙏🏻

  • @markcaroll363
    @markcaroll363 Před rokem +2

    Well done. We can all sleep better now. Thank you for all the great videos

  • @StuartsShed
    @StuartsShed Před rokem

    Excellent demonstration of the bushing repair. Important to remember that the part was not actually failed in the first place, this is simply adjusting to make better use and balance of the casting material. The net result is a superior part of course. Inspiring - never settle for second best. Thank you again Joe.

  • @andreamodiano
    @andreamodiano Před rokem +1

    Joe, you get better and better every year. Chers from Brussels.

    • @joepie221
      @joepie221  Před rokem

      Many thanks. I enjoyed visiting Brussels a few years back.

  • @nickfox6339
    @nickfox6339 Před rokem +1

    Beautiful work Joe, you are a true craftsman.