Is Jose Mourinho still special?

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  • čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
  • Jose Mourinho’s 'Roman reign' came to an abrupt end Tuesday morning. Former captain Danielle de Rossi will now take charge of Roma until the end of the season. But is he still special?
    Ayo Akinwolere is joined by Jack Pitt-Brooke and James Horncastle to discuss Jose's memories as Roma manager, his style of football and where next he will be looking to use his talent.
    00:00 Intro
    00:40 Jose Mourinho sacking
    04:50 Jose at Roma
    09:22 Mourinho’s style of football
    16:53 What will be next for Jose?
    19:56 Jose’s success as a manager
    27:03 Mourinho’s memories
    31:13 Could Barcelona be next?
    35:03 Could England be an option?
    37:45 Where would he be able to use his talent?
    39:40 Will he come back to the Premier League?
    42:00 Final comments
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  • @luismartins7130
    @luismartins7130 Před 4 měsíci +122

    Roma have been making more than 100 million on players transfers for the last 2 seasons. The only reason Roma were able to sign so many players on a free was because of Mourinho reputation. Dybala, Lukaku, Wini would have never signed if not for him

    • @BenjaminKeller
      @BenjaminKeller Před 4 měsíci +2

      Imagine any of them signing for Roma before José arrived

    • @mvjbass9561
      @mvjbass9561 Před 4 měsíci +8

      ...and a huge wage bill. Wage bill and league position tend to go hand in hand, yet Roma are massively underperforming this.

    • @SuperYannick63
      @SuperYannick63 Před 4 měsíci +11

      @@mvjbass9561 not really. 5 points off 4th which is the target after a stretch of horrendous games (against the top 6). Back to back european finals for Roma is special. 3rd highest wage bill, while it is correct, is mostly due to the fact that tiago pinto raised pellegrini to “star-player” level in terms of salary, as he earns nearly as much as the league’s star players osimhen and leao while he is very much underperforming for 2 years. they have also spent the 3rd least amount (18th in the league in 3 of the 4 previous windows).

    • @car9melo
      @car9melo Před 4 měsíci +5

      ​@@mvjbass9561massively underperforming my ass😂

    • @aptmap5181
      @aptmap5181 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@mvjbass9561 Exactly 3rd highest wage bill in Serie A and no CL 2 seasons in a row and 9th in the table. Not Special. Not anymore. Maybe David Moyes level

  • @pokkaisifu
    @pokkaisifu Před 4 měsíci +109

    so jack is essentially arguing that mourinho should be thrown into a volcano by hobbits?

    • @thisisalarm
      @thisisalarm Před 4 měsíci +21

      Right? People that don’t like Jose, REALLY don’t like Jose 😄

    • @thejoshway764
      @thejoshway764 Před 4 měsíci +6

      His coverage of Mou during his spurs days always had a negative slant.

    • @j.s3300
      @j.s3300 Před 4 měsíci

      Sounds good

    • @j.s3300
      @j.s3300 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@thejoshway764because they were shit?

    • @roverteam4914
      @roverteam4914 Před 4 měsíci

      @@thisisalarm The 2 things they like are bottle and levy.....

  • @SuperYannick63
    @SuperYannick63 Před 4 měsíci +80

    81 points in the Premier League in 17/18 with united, that was quite incredible. Best achievement by a mile since 11/12. Roma had the 3rd least transfer spent in the last 4 windows. Going to back to back finals is huge, Roma as the guys here said had not won a european trophy since 1961. they had not won anything since 2008. and i know it may not be a popular opinion, but for Roma Fans that second final was a robbery. Mourinho doesn‘t say for nothing that in his eyes that final was won. Which would have been their first UCL qualification in 6 years.
    They beat Bayer Leverkusen, who are flying high with Xabi Alonso, Sociedad who finished first place in the UCL group. Jose is a very intelligent man who has been kind of heartbroken by the ownership. Roma were never expected to win trophies or reach finals, even the most positive roma fan would have been ecstatic by the idea of reaching 2 finals in 2 years before his arrival.
    The general feeling amongst the Roman fanbase is that the sacking is undeserved, because after 6 games against the top 6, they are „only“ 5 points behind top 4. now they have 3 games against relegation sides which could give them a great chance to go back into top 4, wherebthey had been only 6 weeks ago. Jose always defies logic and odds, and so he has in Rome.

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 4 měsíci +12

      I’m sorry but some revisionist history here, finishing second with man united isn’t some incredible achievement, OGS did the same, the propaganda is insane

    • @00dude3
      @00dude3 Před 4 měsíci +9

      Highest paid coach in Italy
      3rd highest wage bill
      Massive spending in his first season (which you conveniently ignored)
      Roma got to the final on small margins v Leverkusen, you can't then complain when the small margins go against you to a bottom half La Liga team.
      Roma had a 0% chance of top 4, lost regularly to the worst teams in Serie A
      He's washed and sycophants are deluded.

    • @SuperYannick63
      @SuperYannick63 Před 4 měsíci +7

      ⁠@@00dude3you can turn it around as you wish, but mourinho at his worst is still better than most coaches at their best. 2 finals in 2 years is something special that roma had not done in history, and Roma are still only 5 points off champions league football. He is the anti-conformist of modern football, where selfish behaviour is being rewarded instead of hard work. Tiktok videos are more important than work on the training ground. Roma fans adore Mourinho

    • @mrD66M
      @mrD66M Před 4 měsíci +5

      ​@SuperYannick63 the argument against Jose, more than anything else, is an economic one
      Clubs exist to generate money - and yes, most clubs fail on this
      Get a "proven winner" coach that will have wage requests, transfer requests, that is known for devaluing and berating club assets / young players, often alienating fans and club hierarchy, reputed for drama, on the one-off chance that he may win something
      He is an expensive lesson many clubs need to learn

    • @gomey70
      @gomey70 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Best achievement by any coach? You are joking haha. Roma have the 3rd highest wage spend in Serie A and should be doing better.

  • @androidbluat
    @androidbluat Před 4 měsíci +35

    The real question is "how important is the manager relative to how well the club is run?"
    Managers aren't all-powerful and we use them as scapegoats for wins and losses, which is not always true.

    • @Account.for.Comment
      @Account.for.Comment Před 4 měsíci +1

      Wenger and Capello said something like a great manager can only make a team 4% better off at most, but a bad one can take them 15% worse off.
      Their biggest factors of success is the players, that's why managers always try to have transfer control. Fergie, Mourinho, Wenger, Capello, Pep, Arteta, Klopp can only thrive with the players they had.
      If Mourinho don't have the best players, he would not have the best team. Even in Porto's win, he had some great players join. Pep's won almost everything because all the best players gather there. It is as simple as that. Give Mourinho a blank check, and he would assembled the best team. Give him ManUtd or Spurs players, and suddenly he washed out.

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@@Account.for.Comment
      it's funny how people talked about Ancelotti at Everton like they talk about Mourinho now, then Big Carlo suddenly goes to Real wins to the CL and now he's elite again.

    • @Account.for.Comment
      @Account.for.Comment Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@otto_jk That's why I stay away from the GOAT manager debate. Zidane won 3 UCL with the greatest players assembled at the time. So did Pep. They are great coaches for the job they have, but put them in a Spurs team, and I doubt they can do much. Mourinho could only managed to win them a League Cup if he wasn't sack, and I think Levy sacked him because he did not want Mourinho demanding more expensive players if he did won a trophy and take them to a new level.
      I also found the manager "not having the players they need to succeed " to be a terrible excuse. It is their job to work with the players they have. I don't recall Carlos Ancelotti whined about Everton players not to his standards, he played them to the best of their ability. Play Real Madrid to the best of their ability, he won the UCL and La Liga. Ancellotti's Everton and Mourinho's Roma can only be where their players capable of.

  • @samrowe8752
    @samrowe8752 Před 4 měsíci +18

    Jose is such a pantomime figure. As a fan of a different PL team I hated him when he had his 1st spell at Chelsea, but when he moved to Inter and Real Madrid I was able to appreciate him from a far. His battles with Guardiola has to be up their with the biggest manager rivalries of all time, and was an absolute dream to watch! Even as someone who loved watching that prime Barcelona team, that Inter vs Barcelona CL semi final will live fondly in my memory. "We needed some water to clean my players blood from the pitch". Legendary.
    This might be silly, but I can only compare him to a WWE villain. I hated certain ones so much when I was a 7 or 8 years old that when I grew up I realised how good they were, because they elicited so much emotion from me and created memories. Every team Jose managed I preferred a rival domestic club, but I've massive respect for him now and will live long in the memory of football fans

  • @ChrisSmith74627
    @ChrisSmith74627 Před 4 měsíci +29

    I am so impressed with James Horncastle's knowledge and insights on Italian football, he really knows his stuff.

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk Před 4 měsíci +7

      Good contrast to Jack who seems to know Jack all

    • @ChrisSmith74627
      @ChrisSmith74627 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@otto_jk in my initial comment I actually mentioned that but edited it because I thought it was too harsh 🤣 he's a Spurs/England expert so I'm not sure what he was doing on this. Horncastle, on the other hand, is a real Expert on this topic. As a Roma fan, he accurately presented all of my feelings on this event

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@ChrisSmith74627I can understand why he as a spurs fan doesn't like him, but it really does sound more like a like salty spurs fan gloating at Jose's misfortune father than objective analysis.

    • @ChrisSmith74627
      @ChrisSmith74627 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@otto_jk totally, not really a valuable contribution to this podcast

    • @speardrops
      @speardrops Před 4 měsíci +4

      They should have him on a lot more, very genuine, knowledgeable and clear in his vibe and delivery. I always click when I see him on YT content.

  • @l_m9494
    @l_m9494 Před 4 měsíci +25

    He's taken on a hell of a lot of difficult jobs he just needs the right place

  • @Cataraqui
    @Cataraqui Před 4 měsíci +4

    I went to Italy last year from Canada just to watch Jose Mourinho. He was the reason I started to follow Roma.

  • @muhdhafiz123
    @muhdhafiz123 Před 4 měsíci +3

    "Jose Mourinho is like the one ring in The Lord of The Rings" has to be quote of the year.

  • @rem90mer
    @rem90mer Před 4 měsíci +5

    Horn castle in that white T and Roma tracksuit combination is absolutely stunning. Look at that collar man!!

  • @azkarusydan6039
    @azkarusydan6039 Před 4 měsíci +22

    The irony is, AFAIK, the locals loved him. His team did underperform, but it just painful.

  • @FootballDrawn
    @FootballDrawn Před 4 měsíci +21

    I remember last year, making a video about Mourinho, and predicting his departure/dismissal before Euros. I think there's always going to be a market for Jose Mourinho, just as it was with the great Carlo Ancelotti after his Bayern and Napoli failures, and Everton departure .
    Brilliant video as always ⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽

    • @nathanjohnwilliamson7675
      @nathanjohnwilliamson7675 Před 4 měsíci +2

      You made a video predicting he’d be sacked before the euros? The comp that is after his contract expires?

    • @Ryan-ys2bq
      @Ryan-ys2bq Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@nathanjohnwilliamson7675 also in his 3rd season, it was a bold out of the box prediction

    • @nathanjohnwilliamson7675
      @nathanjohnwilliamson7675 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Ryan-ys2bq truly bold

    • @SleekMack
      @SleekMack Před 4 měsíci

      @FootballDrawn you make a great point that there will always be a market for him... Saudi or USA... But maybe Struggling Arsenal could look at him, Chelsea again would make sense for me as a United fan... But even when we fire Ten hag which I'm confident could happen, he could well be a favourite of Sir Jim Redcliffe... I'm also looking at Ajax struggling heavily but Johan Cruyff will turn in his grave if Mourinho has to coach his park the bus football at Ajax 😂😂😂 But also, there's a lot of Champions League playing teams that will grab him quick and fast 🤞🏽🇿🇦

    • @richardesponja693
      @richardesponja693 Před 4 měsíci

      He should face it, that he is a good manager, when it comes to competitions like Ucl, EL, CL, so we he is not making a job as manager for a country? (Like Portugal)

  • @tomdreler6528
    @tomdreler6528 Před 4 měsíci +17

    Jose should Coach the national Team of Uruguay or Chile! Underdogs, fighting Spirit, traditional rivalries - he would live it, i think

    • @1992zorro
      @1992zorro Před 4 měsíci

      Agree, one of the few places where you can find real men and not mussies complaining about their feelings

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk Před 4 měsíci +9

      Uruguay has Bielsa and they're playing amazing football, I absolutely wouldn't sack him for Jose

  • @ntiyisolavorne2301
    @ntiyisolavorne2301 Před 4 měsíci +18

    I personally have never seen this version of happy Jose. Jose has proven at Roma that he’s special, those transfers, those injuries all the debuts of youngsters he gave.
    I love Jose yes,

    • @darrenfearon4288
      @darrenfearon4288 Před 4 měsíci +2

      This must be a different Jose your talking about , when he was a Tottenham Manager he gave no debut to youngsters and I never seen any young player improve under him, he prefered Skipp and hojbjerg to talented players like Sarr and Bissouma and kept on making excuses why the team sat back.

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk Před 4 měsíci +8

      ​@@darrenfearon4288
      yeah, Sarr played in Metz and Bissouma in Brighton when Mourinho was the manager. It's quite difficult to pick players who play for other clubs.

  • @timeisontheessence
    @timeisontheessence Před 4 měsíci +12

    3 mins in and Jack is telling us that Roma should have been playing better football while ignoring the fact that the squad was constantly bloated with injuries, and played attacking football when he had his full team
    And no one in the podcast brings up the transfer spend of 15mill that friedkins gave him in his last 2 seasons, to compete with the top 5 which is damn near possible, while also having to sell his core players and then having to manage injuries to his new signings, half of them free agents 😂
    If a club wants Mourinho, they need to back him to the fullest which his C.V deserves. Highlighting man united, spurs and roma who havent backed him financially and giving him the leeway to sell Who he wants, and saying those are examples of him being a "knockout manager" only is a terrible terrible argument from Jack

    • @1992zorro
      @1992zorro Před 4 měsíci +4

      Typical English pundits saying nonsense. Other news, water is wet

    • @00dude3
      @00dude3 Před 4 měsíci +2

      if he's an elite coach why can't he improve players?
      Saying he was hamstrung at his last 3 jobs is hilarious.

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk Před 4 měsíci +6

      ​@@00dude3if Pep's an elite coach why did he buy Grealish for 100 million instead of improving some city's academy player?

    • @deanoss777
      @deanoss777 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@00dude3are you really gonna insinuate that mourinho doesn’t improve his players?

  • @jdb2587
    @jdb2587 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Who is the guy in the roma jacket? He speaks well and knows about the game. Great pod!

  • @simbarashenosi9009
    @simbarashenosi9009 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Jose is KING, He will always be the special one no matter what.

  • @spacetime3
    @spacetime3 Před 4 měsíci +3

    If the FA has any sense get Jose as next England Manager... with the players we have and Jose's shit-housery we can win.

  • @Sp1NNN023
    @Sp1NNN023 Před měsícem +1

    Moourinho always took the club when it was in difficult period , would actually like to see him in healthy environment to actually what he can do, when nobody pressure him that much.

  • @dineshl3227
    @dineshl3227 Před 4 měsíci +3

    The lie: Mourinho spent €130m in 1st season with Roma in '21
    The truth:
    Jan 27th '20 - Ibañez joins
    Sept 17th '20 - Kumbulla joins
    Feb 1st '21 - Reynolds joins
    All with OBLIGATION to buy, their cumulative price of €45m counts into those €130m
    May 21st '21 - Mourinho joins

  • @albacino1613
    @albacino1613 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Give him the Newcastle job and they'll be box office until they're set to compete in 2-3 years

  • @luizhumbertocampos1103
    @luizhumbertocampos1103 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Mourinho work at Roma was very good. He did not achieve top 4, but Roma had 4th most expected points in 2021/2022 and 3th most in 2022/2023. It is not the fault of the manager if the team underperforms their xG. Two things contributed to this: having the worst goalkeeper in Serie A (Rui Patrício is the goalkeeper who conceded the most goals compared to the goals he was expected to concede) and missing tons of chances.
    This not to mention his European record at Roma was excellent. Mourinho proved in this work that he is still a great manager. Regarding the sacking, it was totally unexpected.
    Fans were still backing him and most player liked him. This not to mention Roma was only 5 points from top 4 after an injury crisis and having a difficult sequence of games at the same time.
    This not to mention that Roma has 6th most expected points. This means that the fall in perfomance was normal for a team that had so many injuries.

    • @Sidwhite-yb5cv
      @Sidwhite-yb5cv Před 4 měsíci +2

      Any more excuses for him

    • @luizhumbertocampos1103
      @luizhumbertocampos1103 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@Sidwhite-yb5cv So the manager is responsable for the goalkeeper being shit and attackers missing chances? It is just a question of looking in an objective manner to data and facts.

    • @saumitradeo5336
      @saumitradeo5336 Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@@Sidwhite-yb5cv Lol
      Someone using data to back him up and this is the comeback given
      Not surprised

    • @Sidwhite-yb5cv
      @Sidwhite-yb5cv Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@saumitradeo5336 Lowest win rate of any Roma Manager since 91

    • @Sidwhite-yb5cv
      @Sidwhite-yb5cv Před 4 měsíci

      @@luizhumbertocampos1103 Who picks the team numbnuts

  • @brandonayong5823
    @brandonayong5823 Před 4 měsíci +18

    This roma sacking is very different from his previous ones. This is the first time he's sacked with still most of the squad behind him and the fans loving him. Even the statement from roma said they will never forget his time there. It was purely a football decision based on 3 back to back defeats to juventus Lazio and AC Milan and also Roma's finances just couldn't work anymore with Jose's demands

    • @danielrowe7998
      @danielrowe7998 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Err Chelsea first time Frank lampard on the obi one pod said he was crying when he found out

    • @brandonayong5823
      @brandonayong5823 Před 4 měsíci +4

      ​@@danielrowe7998I forgot about that one
      That was the dumbest sacking ever. He finished 2nd that season 😊

    • @HHHBFResurrected
      @HHHBFResurrected Před 4 měsíci +1

      Was just about to post that lol
      I can understand why they sacked him, would also have understood if they'd kept him on till the end of the season, but this doesn't negativity affect Mourinho or Roma imo. Everyone did everything they could to make it work, but was always going to be a strained relationship with Mourinho's needs & Roma's standing & dire financial situation & it wore itself out naturally. From Mourinho's side he can be proud of that job, maybe his best one since Inter tbh.

    • @HHHBFResurrected
      @HHHBFResurrected Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@brandonayong5823 Wasn't a sacking, was a mutual termination! Mourinho's said multiple times his plan was to do the big 3 leagues, he was gone end of that season at the latest anyway.

    • @roverteam4914
      @roverteam4914 Před 4 měsíci

      @@HHHBFResurrected Yeah, i read that somewhere too,,I refused the compensation....Also at Madrid, he didnt wanna stay after the 3rd season....

  • @user-uc3gl1ce3t
    @user-uc3gl1ce3t Před 4 měsíci +2

    The problem with Mourinho is that he's a bit of a "Transfers" manager. Back him in the transfer market, constantly buy him his first or second choice player, get rid of any players he doesn't fancy and he'll do a fantastic job, as he did at Chelsea, Inter and Real Madrid. But, if you don't allow him to simply buy in success then he can't seem to be able to get things to work.
    That's not a knock on him, even Guardiola has a large element of that - at Bayern they already had the best players and just bought in more great players, and at City they've spent 1.5 Billion Euro's since Guardiola took charge in 2016.
    No matter how good or how innovative a manager you are, money will always win at the end of the day.
    Take Jose Mourinho, put him at a club like PSG with pretty much unlimited finances, or a Newcastle who are on the up & up with near limitless funding (FFP permitting) and he'll still do a good job. It's just not necessary now to have a Mourinho because of the press issues he brings, the fallings out with players and so on.

  • @adisucipto5386
    @adisucipto5386 Před 9 dny

    winning Champions League with Porto is enough to make Jose a legendary coach

  • @GarethE94
    @GarethE94 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Horncastles jacket is mega

  • @apachesurvival5440
    @apachesurvival5440 Před 2 měsíci

    James Horncastle....where did you buy that Roma trackie top? I need it in my life haha

  • @danielvaega
    @danielvaega Před 4 měsíci +1

    48:16 Brilliant effect .

  • @brothatisfunny
    @brothatisfunny Před 4 měsíci +2

    Honestly, sacking Mourinho because he is in 5 points reach of a CL place, to put a inexperienced De Rossi in his place just feel stupid, it feel like Tottenham sacking him before the cup final, i think they were afraid he would do it, and force them to renew his contract

  • @AdThe1st
    @AdThe1st Před 4 měsíci

    The One Ring analogy is so good, as a Chelsea fan that's definitely how it feels lol

  • @anant1462
    @anant1462 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Hasn't been for many years. Still one of the all-time greats, of course.

  • @TtotheCizzel
    @TtotheCizzel Před 4 měsíci +2

    Incredible bravery and courage to ignore what the fans wanted. I really don't like modern football

  • @DJCREAM01
    @DJCREAM01 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Wonder how many points Ancelotti had at Everton, went on to win a Champions League… cup manager too?

  • @flyingaviator8158
    @flyingaviator8158 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I found it interesting that no one mentions the change of transfer approach in his final year at Roma: From a team average 23.5 years old, he suddenly stepped up to a 27 years old team with a lot of old players on loan. I think Mountinho fell back on old patterns.

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk Před 4 měsíci

      Fonseca's last season their key players were Dzeko, Pedro and Kolarov and their youth prospects outside of Zaniolo were nothing to write about.
      They lost money on most of the young players they signed and sold and their sporting director was thus fired.
      Just buying random youth players doesn't guarantee success.

    • @flyingaviator8158
      @flyingaviator8158 Před 4 měsíci

      Pinto had to clean up the mess Monchi left. Considering the state Roma was in back then he did a good job in making the squad smaller, and get rid of expensive wages. @@otto_jk

  • @reverendroar
    @reverendroar Před 4 měsíci +1

    Was Ayo a Blue Peter presenter?

  • @workbookmark5662
    @workbookmark5662 Před 4 měsíci +1

    why isn't anyone mentioning that roma sacked tiago pinto two weeks prior to releasing jose??? Pinto was the guy who advocated for Jose's arrival....

    • @roverteam4914
      @roverteam4914 Před 4 měsíci

      If I was Jose, I wouldn't want to befriend with Pinto...He gave him a handicapped Renato, Ginny....Overpaid players...

  • @deadtotheworld22
    @deadtotheworld22 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The suggestions of Mourinho to Newcastle ultimately fail to appreciate some key cirumstances:
    A) The club need a builder, someone who can work as part of a longer term project to undo the neglect under Ashley.
    B) The club don't have the kind of FFP room at the moment to allow or justify a Mourinho splurge on players in or around their prime, especially because they already have far too many old players on the books on contracts which need to be shifted.
    C) The ownership are very process driven and are taking a view towards the long term. Firing their current manager to bring in a high risk, volatile coach goes against that, esppecially given the only thing you'd likely get might be a domestic cup.
    D) The fanbase remain behind Eddie Howe, and as much as there is a lot of affection for Mourinho in terms of his status and links to Robson, there's also a general enjoyment of not being in the headlines because the manager has said something stupid or volatile. Having been through coaches like Kinnear, Allardyce, Bruce, Pardew and Carver who all said things which made the club look like mugs, having someone who comes across as quietly professional is a nice change and I don't think we'd want to change just for the sake of it.
    Realistically, if and when Howe goes, I suspect we're more likely to see the club looking at someone younger like Fonseca. If Jose is to return to England, I suspect we're more likely looking at a team like West Ham.

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk Před 4 měsíci

      The B is the largest factor I also think that if you get Mourinho you need to give him a budget to buy players.
      Ps. Fonseca is a terrible suggestion as he was literally the previous manager of Roma and did even worse than Mourinho.
      Also the only club where he's been good was Shaktar Donetsk which is basically the PSG of Ukraine.

    • @claudiocaniggia3302
      @claudiocaniggia3302 Před 4 měsíci

      @@otto_jkFonsema did better than Jose though, at least not sitting at 9th

  • @fationmuhollari9768
    @fationmuhollari9768 Před měsícem

    People are funny. He IS special and always will be. He took Roma to two consecutive European finals. Do you know where Roma has been the last 24 years?
    People say "oh he's getting sucked all the time". Yeah by clubs with no ambition or plan for god's sake. He, Don Carlo, Pep and Sir Alex are the pinnacle of managerial history.

  • @tonythebomb4147
    @tonythebomb4147 Před 3 měsíci

    He will always be the special one.

  • @LovenArtiste
    @LovenArtiste Před 4 měsíci +2

    What a thumbnail 😮‍💨

  • @nwu.kidding
    @nwu.kidding Před 4 měsíci +3

    Mourinho will forever be special, no sackings can take that away from him. As much as Pep has achieved what he has, he can never do what Jose did with Porto and even Roma. He delivered a European trophy with that squad, it is incredible?

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 4 měsíci +1

      The conference ? Are you joking they had a bigger budget and better squad than everyone they played in the conference league

    • @00dude3
      @00dude3 Před 4 měsíci +1

      He's on a par with David Moyes for winning the conference league, truly the special one

    • @sammybeck4855
      @sammybeck4855 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@00dude3Comment made by someone who clearly doesn't understand football if you think Moyes is on par with him

  • @sebastianalegria3401
    @sebastianalegria3401 Před 4 měsíci

    The Special One is still one of the best managers in the world, however his ego usually betrays him and that's why he's been sacked off from AS Roma for the results. So, I hope he can find a new football club as soon as possible.

  • @matlikekana
    @matlikekana Před 4 měsíci

    Man brought two European trophies of the last three he's been two. It's not even a question.

    • @rsplines12
      @rsplines12 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Europa trophy for United is no accomplishment. Mickey Mouse indeed.

  • @Ryan-ys2bq
    @Ryan-ys2bq Před 4 měsíci +1

    Lukaku and Chelsea “Oh shit, what do we do now”

  • @yw4635
    @yw4635 Před 4 měsíci

    JM has been a much softer and friendly guy in his Roma role but people just don't change their mind😂 his team needs to be well built -- just imagine if I'm a team at 18th, beating JM team could be the true pleasure for the whole season due to attentions😂

  • @FootRun710
    @FootRun710 Před 4 měsíci

    9:20 Very true, I watched a few games from Roma this season.. found it ok to watch I think they tied the game but I was entertained. But I won't be watching them again this season. Roma as a team doesn't really have anyone that's considered top tier, dybala is debatable. Lukaku was a beast when he was younger. Mancini is developing.. an argument to be made whether they deserve a better spot.

  • @MattMajcan
    @MattMajcan Před 4 měsíci +1

    I don't know anything about what's gone on at roma but I heard that he won them a european final and got them to another one. So he cant hardly be called a failure. Even when everyone seems to be against him and things seem to be going wrong he somehow still always finds himself there in the mix for trophies. He was about to win a trophy at spurs too and levy sacked him to make sure that didnt happen lol. The man still has a winning mentality, i'm not sure if he can handle the pressures of competing for the premier league anymore but if he was back in england i think he could still do great for a lot of clubs. Or like lots of people are saying, international management might be perfect for him now

  • @sameoldguy8617
    @sameoldguy8617 Před 4 měsíci

    The last time a coach and club went to two finals in a row was Mourinho at Porto.
    News: you won both!

  • @jakubparadowski3688
    @jakubparadowski3688 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Brasil is looking for a national team coach ;)

  • @levisnafu
    @levisnafu Před 4 měsíci +1

    Club legends getting jobs based on pedigree of playing rather than coaching its crazy how often we are seeing this now haha.

  • @F.MNZ.91
    @F.MNZ.91 Před 4 měsíci

    If he joins Napoli.. he’ll make history for sure….

  • @JoeLisle
    @JoeLisle Před 4 měsíci

    Yes still one of the best managers around

  • @spelf
    @spelf Před 4 měsíci

    I like Jame's tracksuit top.

  • @aptmap5181
    @aptmap5181 Před 4 měsíci +2

    He was special. Not now. Not anymore. Maybe David Moyes level

  • @archie-127
    @archie-127 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I could see José at Nottingham Forest, it suits the craziness of the ownership

  • @makas01217
    @makas01217 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I think not making the champions league spot last season was the turning point. Roma is too broke to keep an expensive manager like Jose and not making Champions League money.

  • @adamadam-xb9ig
    @adamadam-xb9ig Před 4 měsíci

    Jose going to barca and winning the championship league would be an insane ending to his coaching career

  • @slimerre333
    @slimerre333 Před 4 měsíci +1

    considering the sells and incoming for roma, jose was drastically overachieving

  • @hnaku8748
    @hnaku8748 Před 4 měsíci

    Jose even in what some consider failure manages to achieve things that haven't been done for a while. It's similar theme to how Pep is judged by winning/not winning the UCL wherever he goes. Just shows the standards if anything for me.
    Even though Mourinho might not be as invincible as before, the fact that he never lost the fans or the players in Roma and yet was let go does sound harsh. Two games away from top 4 is not the worst. Certainly better than what a certain Spurs lemon merchant is currently doing at the club I support. Have that Jack.

    • @theHamster624
      @theHamster624 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Difference between Pep and Jose is the 115 charges at City and the documented paying off of refs in Barcelona. People give Pep too much credit.
      If we want to call a master tactician a master manager, then we will have to include Bielsa as one of the greatest managers of all time.
      I don't include Bielsa in that list. Jose has a history of building up all sectors of the club in places like Chelsea and Real Madrid. He even builds up the staff (Rodgers at Chelsea and Zidane at Madrid).
      Pep has had everyone else to take care of the other things. THATS THE BIG DIFFERENCE.
      Pep is a master tactician, like Bielsa, who has had the benefit of having the strongest squads and most money at his disposal. Jose is a master manager, who similar to SAF and Arsene, has shown he can build an entire club.

  • @mrgatsinzi
    @mrgatsinzi Před 4 měsíci

    His football heritage speech

  • @lkay44
    @lkay44 Před 4 měsíci

    I think the point about José not being able to amass high points total's in the league is somewhat invalid, when you factor in the quality of the squads he has had relative to the competition.
    Ultimately, he has delivered an acceptable league performance, supplemented by excellent cup and European runs/wins.
    Roma have a pretty high calibre 13-14 players but lack the depth to compete in 3 competitions.

  • @SleekMack
    @SleekMack Před 4 měsíci +6

    Mourinho is my second favourite coach of all time... Behind Sir Alex... So to me... Special is special... It's not a perishable skill... Roma is in a better playing position than before him... He needs another big team move... I'ts a pity Brazil had already appointment someone... Would have loved to see what he couod do with the 1000 world class players at his disposal....

  • @oloruntobiadefolamioluromb9159
    @oloruntobiadefolamioluromb9159 Před 4 měsíci +1

    You guys are very funny😅.
    Over the course of the last three years, I have closely followed AS Roma, and it is evident that the ownership had unrealistic expectations, overlooking the resources available. Their approach seems to have been focused on results without a practical consideration of the resources at their disposal.
    Did Mourinho experience failure at AS Roma? Clearly not, especially given the constraints of a limited budget and the strategy of acquiring players through loans and free transfers. I foresaw this outcome, particularly following the departure of Pinto.

  • @OzyMandias13
    @OzyMandias13 Před 4 měsíci +6

    The Special, Once

    • @Jakeindbox
      @Jakeindbox Před 4 měsíci +1

      Chelsea fans classless as ever

    • @Ryan-ys2bq
      @Ryan-ys2bq Před 4 měsíci +1

      Once yet won titles for you in 2 spells…. And UCLs with Porto and Inter while knocking Peps Barca off the perch… Special many times

    • @kamranscent
      @kamranscent Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@Ryan-ys2bq stop living in dinasour era.. jose needs to retire...finished manager!! capiche?

    • @Ryan-ys2bq
      @Ryan-ys2bq Před 4 měsíci

      @@kamranscent what are you replying to? Doesn’t refute my point he was special many times

    • @jgmediting7770
      @jgmediting7770 Před 4 měsíci

      The self appointed special one.

  • @realmoneysound
    @realmoneysound Před 4 měsíci

    I watch Italian league because of Jose Mourhino

  • @darrenfearon4288
    @darrenfearon4288 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Its sad seeing Jose like this , tactics are envolving every year and teams are becoming more fluid in there play so its harder to play sit back football without inviting too much pressure and you carnt treat players like they did back in the day.

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk Před 4 měsíci +2

      I think it's telling that the mr Brexit football himself Sean Dyche has his team pressing quite aggressively nowadays.
      I think Mourinho could evolve by having a small epiphany with figuring out how he could incorporate pressing into his strategies.

    • @roverteam4914
      @roverteam4914 Před 4 měsíci

      Nope, the real reason is the finance...Roma have to make 60m this summer...Last summer was 30m.......When Roma Jose is out, they can probably take lukaku, dybala an tammy out since Jose is not there...

  • @CaptainSw4g
    @CaptainSw4g Před 4 měsíci +1

    For me, Jose is a great, but he's at his greatest when he's in adversity. He needs a small or medium club with a siege mentality to produce That Amazing Football. Of course, Real Madrid is an exception, but even there, he had the underdog mentality against Barca - said "we won without being the best team." I think he needs to go somewhere small and quiet, and build it into a beast with less of a public eye, then come out of nowhere and make a big push for trophies.

    • @mrD66M
      @mrD66M Před 4 měsíci

      Stoke?

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk Před 4 měsíci

      Porto part 2 I would love it and I think I deserve it

    • @Sidwhite-yb5cv
      @Sidwhite-yb5cv Před 4 měsíci

      busted flush

    • @workbookmark5662
      @workbookmark5662 Před 4 měsíci

      @@otto_jk porto was never a small club 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @really8930
    @really8930 Před 3 měsíci

    Yes, he’s still “special”. But not as special as he once was. Like everything else, football moves on.

  • @songkok7hitam
    @songkok7hitam Před 4 měsíci +2

    He did reach the Europe Final last season, right? when big clubs failed.

    • @1992zorro
      @1992zorro Před 4 měsíci

      Should have won it it wasn't for the worst performance of Anthony Taylor

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 4 měsíci +2

      120 minutes of dire dog poop football but as usual it’s someone else’s fault

    • @1992zorro
      @1992zorro Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@tevildo45 If its poop football then it's fine he lost but he lost because of bad decisions by referee. You know the difference right?

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 4 měsíci +2

      He lost cos he couldn’t get the job done, every team moans and cry’s when the lose a final, when Porto knocked out MU from champions league in 04 they had a goal ruled out for offside that was onside, they still moan about it, Roma lost and it’s that simple,

  • @user-ku7ww9hj2i
    @user-ku7ww9hj2i Před 4 měsíci +1

    Well put together team at united??? are you serious?? United didn't back Jose and they overachieved if anything. Some UK journalists are just haters

  • @jdiggy1999
    @jdiggy1999 Před 4 měsíci

    Thats Andi from Blue Peter...

  • @crayontom9687
    @crayontom9687 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Spurs fan here. By the time he was at Tottenham, he was basically a caricature of himself. The football was more reactive than ever and despite some good results (United away comes to mind), I’ve basically totally forgotten his time in charge

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk Před 4 měsíci +1

      The problem was that your backline besides Alderweirald sucked, Mourinho had to counter because no manager would have trusted that backline

    • @Joe-og6br
      @Joe-og6br Před 4 měsíci +2

      You've probably forgotten about it because you lost the League Cup Final. Don't pretend that's below Tottenham when you haven't won anything in 15 years.

  • @mrD66M
    @mrD66M Před 4 měsíci +1

    It's not enough to be a winner nowadays, you have to win in style.

    • @1992zorro
      @1992zorro Před 4 měsíci +1

      Sometimes I think a lot of fans appreciate beautiful football more than winning. Bunch of losers

    • @IVIRnathanreilly
      @IVIRnathanreilly Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@1992zorro I appreciate it more. I'd rather win though.

    • @00dude3
      @00dude3 Před 4 měsíci +1

      well he was doing neither

    • @mrD66M
      @mrD66M Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@1992zorroask Spurs fans if they would take Jose back

    • @1992zorro
      @1992zorro Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@mrD66M Spurs fans like being losers, look at their ghost trophy cabinet. They didn't even got mad when Mourinho got sacked a day before the final of thr Cup

  • @FootballClubGroup
    @FootballClubGroup Před 4 měsíci

    Yes, yes he is.

  • @DeeClarke-lg1hp
    @DeeClarke-lg1hp Před 23 dny

    Surely if he manages internationally it will be with Portugal?

  • @abhyudaykanoje
    @abhyudaykanoje Před 4 měsíci +1

    i just found out that through this podcast in the entire history of Italian Football, only Jose's Inter Milan has completed the treble. Amazing achievement and surprising considering Italian football was so dominant still none of the sides managed to do it.

    • @otto_jk
      @otto_jk Před 4 měsíci +1

      Juve and Milan both have had close calls but both were so dominant in the period between the 80s and 00s that you just couldn't compete in three competitions with full force.

    • @claudiocaniggia3302
      @claudiocaniggia3302 Před 4 měsíci

      U know nothing about Serie A before Jose came to Inter. The most competetive league in history of football

  • @dw9652
    @dw9652 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Strangely, I could see him doing quite well at West Ham but the fact they're in a lot better form this season and won the conference last year I'm not sure their owners will go for it but surely they'd be somewhat tempted
    It'd definitely be interesting for the Premier League, I'd love to see him back and West Ham seems like the best fit (other than maybe Chelsea or Man U but i feel he's pretty much set up to fail at either), whereas with West Ham they have a few great players like Paqueta, Bowen, Kudus etc and the fans would be happy just to be in or around 6th unlike Man U or Chelsea and also the transition from David Moyes wouldnt be as drastic as say Newcastle or some other clubs

  • @johnoliver777
    @johnoliver777 Před 4 měsíci

    20:12 So True

  • @shoryasethi5
    @shoryasethi5 Před 4 měsíci +3

    People saying he got players.
    Dybala gets more injured than Neymar. Lukaku a reject not even Inter and Juve wanted him. Paredes washed off. Renato hasn't been on pitch for 30 mins due to injury. Then there are Leeds United a championship side defenders and fullbacks on loan not even bought.
    Pellegrini who is a ghost of his past. Cristante who gives his 100% but can't play his natural game because covering for other's mistakes.
    Tammy haven't played a single minute this season due to injury.
    Belotti who scored 0 goals in league last season.
    Azmoun an Iraqi striker on loan.
    Fullbacks who can't cross for their life.
    Man can only do enough he's not a messiah who can conjure wine out of water.
    As they say Rome wasn't built in a day.
    No cohesion and strategy if you acquire loan players for half a season and they remain injured in that too.

    • @1992zorro
      @1992zorro Před 4 měsíci +2

      People really think he's Harry Potter

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 4 měsíci +1

      He always carries an excuse around in his pocket

  • @thedudetomorrow0002
    @thedudetomorrow0002 Před 4 měsíci

    Weird to see nobodies making fun of THE SPECIAL ONE

  • @blangum
    @blangum Před 4 měsíci

    Horncastle Hive in the comments babyyyyyyyy

  • @roverteam4914
    @roverteam4914 Před 4 měsíci

    Expecting Roma to be ther with those type of investment...De Zerbii and Eddieust be shit...judging from the standing...

  • @papilloncali
    @papilloncali Před 4 měsíci

    I would say that nowadays he’s “especially special”!…😅

  • @khachapuri_
    @khachapuri_ Před 4 měsíci

    Napoli needs a coach rn 🙄

  • @darbleful
    @darbleful Před 4 měsíci +2

    The slander from tiny minds that will never achieve what he achieved. Respect. Respect. Respect.

  • @choncha23
    @choncha23 Před 4 měsíci

    Roma didn’t invest. What do you want Mourinho to do?

  • @CharlesEros1
    @CharlesEros1 Před 4 měsíci

    He finished one point behind City with that awful United team.... That's what all my close mates from Manchester remember him for anyway. 🙄👍

  • @jimbojimbo6873
    @jimbojimbo6873 Před 2 měsíci

    I love the idea of the people overthrowing democracy for the autrocrat 😂

  • @Le4thl3
    @Le4thl3 Před 4 měsíci

    The level of disrespect show to Jose mourinho in this video is amazing. Suggestive that Southgate is a better manager in any aspect is ridiculous

  • @adtastic1533
    @adtastic1533 Před 4 měsíci

    He was an all time great up until Real Madrid now he's bang average. Something broke inside him and his ego spun out of control since then.

  • @mrD66M
    @mrD66M Před 4 měsíci

    Ask Spurs supporters if any of them want Jose back

  • @rexcolt9742
    @rexcolt9742 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Probably could be a good option for Newcastle

  • @seemourbutts6679
    @seemourbutts6679 Před měsícem

    The thumbnail is a hit job 😂😂

  • @jonasloic4194
    @jonasloic4194 Před 4 měsíci +1

    COMEBACK AT MANCHESTER UNITED OR ARABIA SAOUDITE

  • @b.alexanderjohnstone9774
    @b.alexanderjohnstone9774 Před 3 měsíci

    Luke Shaw says Nope. To be serious, he’s not English.

  • @ponteakabridge
    @ponteakabridge Před 4 měsíci

    Osimhen and Leão aren't "houshold names"???? What on earth are you on about? Sometimes it's like people in that country live in an alternate reality.

  • @srijonpaulchowdhury9809
    @srijonpaulchowdhury9809 Před 4 měsíci

    this is one of the weirdly funny podcasts I have ever heard in my 2 years of listening to athletic. grown up journalists who are literally the greats in their area creating hypothetical situations (which are literally never going to happen) and absurdly discussing their hypothetical consequences xD much like random youtubers. its funny

  • @duncan2858
    @duncan2858 Před 4 měsíci

    This was American owners playing billy big bollocks before his contract is up. Romas next three games are against three of the bottom four in the league. No way we're they going to see him get 9 points and see his stock rise again.

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 4 měsíci

      He barely beat Clemonese in the cup he had to rely on a dodgy peno, no way was he getting 9 points from 9

  • @G-B420
    @G-B420 Před 4 měsíci +1

    its time for PSG

  • @drthvdr2802
    @drthvdr2802 Před 2 měsíci

    The Spurs fan is so fucking clueless lmaoooo these people will never fail to amaze me.

    • @roverteam4914
      @roverteam4914 Před 2 měsíci

      He is still crying for a trophy :D...