Greater Manchester Police making 'disproportionate arrests'
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- čas přidán 2. 05. 2023
- An investigation by Channel 4 News has uncovered serious concerns among serving officers at Greater Manchester Police who've told this programme they're taking "unacceptable risks" and that "dozens of inappropriate and disproportionate" arrests are being made every week.
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It comes amid the current Chief Constable's drive to double arrest figures which has been one of the key factors in getting the force out of special measures.
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Simply arresting more people is not a sign of the effectiveness of a police service unless one is only following the mantra of the current Home Secretary.
Arresting more people because you're solving more crimes as the statistics verify, and the very video you're commenting on discusses not one, not twice, not thrice, but four times throughout,is absolutely a sign of greater police effectiveness.
Arrests are up 52% and convictions are up 30%. That's 30% more crimes solved. 1/3rd more cases closed, each year.
This coverage isn't claiming these improvements aren't great. It's claiming the police training, resources and funding, along with the resources, staffing and funding of the greater legal system need work. Obviously though that isn't going to happen over night, but all the plans for that to happen are in place. So really this is what you call a low fruit story, a cheap whack at a system in transition.
the Home secretary is an extremist hindu
Tell that to the underage girls raped by asian grooming gangs who have waited years for justice
Blacks commit the most crime
ITS CREATING MORE HATE !
Nothing will change until the police stop employing bullies.
Unfortunately the only types of people who would want to be a police officers are bullies. Normal people don't want to be police officers.
That's true unfortunately they get vetting researcher who has zero clue about public authorities.
Strip searched by men?? I thought that was against police policy. How humiliating 😡
Pervy police
It is, they need investigating for that alone...
While I don’t agree with men being present for it or the way she was treated at all,GMP were right in what they said - it wasn’t a strip search, it looked closer to a cell exist. Usually used with less than compliant individuals where their clothing cannot be searched or risks (cords) removed.
They're aren't many men in the police anymore
They should be charged for sexual harassment & abuse. Every single one of them. Theres no excuse for such handling. These people dont just represent the police force, they represent the nation. That police stations head chief should also be charged, they obviously get encouraged .
Anyone endorsed by braverman should be a cause for alarm bells to be ringing to everyone ,everywhere
Tory party ranks putting her in that role
Braver man needs dropping of the end if the earth...
I'm a supporter of the police. No civil society can function properly without them.
But when you have a home secretary like Braverman, more of this type of policing is inevitable. I suppose this is her idea of non-woke policing.
ie, Racists hanging Golly dolls by ropes in pubs being dealt with, annoys her. But people being arrested purley to boost arrest figures is proper policing to her I guess.
@@candyman5912 gollywogs are not racist.
@@James-ds5zq - posted from your mums basement.
50% more arrest should mean 50% more charges
We are not even talking about prosecution.
Aren't charges prosecuted?
@@AB-lq1zd no charges can often be dropped
@@AB-lq1zd I’ve literally lost count of the amount of times I’ve been arrested for non crimes by people who shouldn’t be cops or have authority over any man or woman,that have ended with what’s called a ‘Prosecutor Fiscal release’, which literally means the police have wrongfully arrested & detained you in the eyes of the court/law,so all charges dropped without the need to even go before a judge but your still locked up for what can be up to 4 days if your arrested on a Friday morning of a bank holiday weekend for absolutely no justifiable reason.
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Fight The Powers & Fk The Police
@@socillizt4life in the UK?
@@AB-lq1zd Yeah. I’m in Scotland.
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That arrest is fecking disgusting.
Why? She wasn't charged. They could see she was under the influence of something, a welfare check by a family member had been requested, she clearly was in a poor state of mind. They needed cause to hold her in custody so they could monitor her and ensure she doesn't harm herself or have a medical emergency. So, they found a cause. It's something that happens hundreds of thousands of times a day across the OECD, not even just the UK. They do it all throughout Europe. They do it across North America and Oceania. What's the problem exactly?
Would you rather police just walk away whilst she's under the influence? Perhaps not even attend welfare check calls, would that make you feel better?
What a joke
@@tjmarx stop covering up for the racist British police mate jog on
@@hassyg4083 Come out from behind your pseudonym if you want to talk to me. Don't hide, be accountable for your words.
@@tjmarx You will be held accountable like Wayne Couzens TJ Marx
@@tjmarxyou don’t lock someone having a mental health episode in a jail cell half naked. A competent police force would never have arrested her for that harmless action; they would have sectioned her under the mental health act and taken her to an A&E to get seen by their mental health liaison team.
She should sue the cops
This is disgraceful...even children in our schools are unaprotially strip searched...without the parents even being notified! This has to STOP!!!
Because they’re immigrants they don’t care about the country
And then when someones son get stabbed to death outside school gates you'll be complaining about lack of policing 🤡
That would constitute sexual assault and possibly rape
@@JazonReedenhow is strip searching a mouthy teenage girl going to stop a stabbing? Seriously?
I’m sorry but the lady who “swiped” the glasses off the officer had consumed something that they could not identify. If they felt she could do further harm then placing her in handcuffs was appropriate. That said, the officers should have taken her to an A&E department on the basis she had ingested an unknown substance.
Custody where they could monitor her was appropriate given the NHS is in a shambles.
@@tjmarx and GMP isn’t ?
@@sandraespinozq3801 No. Haven't you heard. Arrests and convictions are up
@@tjmarx convictions are not up just arrests are you clown. instead of medical help they just wanted to convict her and remove her clothing with men present. shocking really, imagine that done to dodgy Royal females. English police picking on soft targets for figures while they let organised criminals namely drug gangs operate
People who are high do weird, stupid and surprising things but aren't necessarily aggressive or malicious, just have poor self-regulation (like toddlers). By definition they are vulnerable and should be treated as this, and by definition, they are more at risk of injury or sudden death. There was no one really assessing her for welfare.
You cannot, in any case, know the motives of a person who is high. (I work in mental health & addictions and see poor impulse control all the time). She wasn't being aggressive, but uniformed officers turning up at your house when you're probably already distressed, behaving aggressively, just ramps up the tension. Apart from being the wrong response by police, it lacked judgement and compassion. She probably could have coped with one officer or two, and been brought round by observing and talking, and would have surrendered herself to medical treatment - job done. But to set upon a person like that would be alarming to anyone, high or not, especially if all alone.
Can confirm that the members of this force are dangerous individuals
Source: trust me bro.
@@titteryenot4524 nah, just the severe , life altering injuries I sustained at the heel of their boot. But thanks for the troll, youd make a good copper
@@stuartjohn5149 🎻
@@titteryenot4524 Oink oink
@@samtopps7905 🐷
As a policing student at uni and a special constable in training, I am shocked at what those officers did in the detention centre. They did a strip search or removed a woman's inner clothing with male officers present, that is not lawfull.
Yes thankyou . And the substance taken by Zanor unknown . COULD BE LETHAL . I think some officer need to go back to training school soon . Good luck with your career 👍
its Britain the police are mostly racist criminals
If this was male officers ..... it is possible that they are plain perverts OH dear GOD IF THAT WAS MY FAMILY MEMBER
Criminals in uniform 💩🇬🇧🥾👑🥾🎩🥾👮♂️
Maybe the officers identified as women at that particular time.
That woman was clearly in need of the help of mental health professionals, not police. Police have a lot to do and face a lot of different situations, but exercising good judgement is better than making unnecessary arrests.
Police 👮♀️ officers don’t judge. It’s the chief prosecutor who orders an arrest. Unless it’s an on the spot incarceration like case 1. Case 2 comes from the c.p. Why ? It is all a mess. As is society.
It's not a matter of good judgment. It is wilful abuse.
@SassySam - Thank you.
Even though you get arrested ..police still have duty of care !
How many people are being fitted up?
How can a under resourced/ under funded police force, process 50% more arrests? They clearly have more than enough resource.
How many end in convictions?
Well seeing as GMP don't mind letting paranoid schizophrenia teenage knife man run around Oldham stabbing people and drug dealing then they definitely don't care .
Arresting people takes very little skill or resourcing. Gathering evidence and making charges stick? Much harder
@@Rory626 regardless of the end result, how can you increase a Key Performance indicator by 50% in 1 year and complain about funding? That's a substantial increase regardless of how skillfull the task is.
@@jzilla1234 doesn't matter, the fact that a key performance indicator, such as arrests, increased 50% in 1 year, without the need for extra funding just goes to show they been exaggerating in the past by stating they are under resourced. They had the same capacity to arrest 50% more people in the past, but didn't do it. Why now?
get me out of the fascist nightmare this country has become
Too right .lock downs , medical procedures by coetion and now stripped and left naked in a cell .ANYTHING IS NOW POSSIBLE
I agree... imagine being arrested for praying silently!
Get immigrants out
Nope don't hold your breath the cops are above the law
Imagine if we had a small coronation, then use the money to save lives by feeding people and increasing services
Question here is : Why is it that police officers need to fully deal with extreme mental distress ?
That’s not what they are there for nor are they equipped for that task.
Government is lacking.
No mental health service to speak of, that’s why
NHS is also overwhelmed due to cuts and mental health services are almost non existent.
Officers or paramedics often request a mental health team to attend the calls instead, to be told they don't work out of 9-5hrs! And when systems fail it is the Police it always cascades back to. The "jack of all trades" service.
I want to know why Fire services aren't assisting NHS with minor calls to free up Ambulances.
Nah it's not... They are just pushing excuses for their abuse... There aim is to kill as many as possible in custody or have them sent to the hospital where they are drugged up beyond repair and eventually die from kidney failure from the drugs they give you... This is the reason many have mental health problems in the first place... So what do the police do... Make it far worse of course, intentionally... It's easier to abuse the vulnerable than it is to do a real police job.. they're brazen about raping that young girl at the school, they're brazen about the young boys they murdered on the ebikes... The GMP needs to go... It's not failing... It's failed and completely corrupt. GMP is now classified to most of the public as a criminal organisation that needs to be taken out of service and all the highest ranking officers arrested for grand corruption
I've had this, currently awaiting funding from legal aid, for assault and ABH. I was treated exactly the same. Apparently in between arrest and sentencing you're guilty by psychopathic police. yeah I had the same thing... officers sadistic laughing when treating people like animals.
Ditto I find their attitude disgusting liars and yes the being laughed at I’ve experienced that twice from members of Bolton police “force”
if her friend was concerned about her wellbeing why not talk to her instead calling the police and not the ambulance. Understand she's someone's daughter, sister etc why not Co operate with the police and say she needs help. She must of been known to the police. She admitted on the body footage she don't know what she's taken so how have the police drugged her.
the cops are just arresting soft targets for figures while they let organised criminals continue
It was lockdown also things were done differently..I'm not saying if she was raped it's fine obviously it's not.. however I think she's incredibly selfish breaking lockdown to buy drugs
Their motto should be broken and corrupt....
I never thought this problem would get the mainstream critique it deserves hence I have watched this video a few times now. The moment that officer realises he can’t get away with attempting to differentiate between a strip search and a “welfare” based removal of clothes is astonishing. The police will try to sidestep accusations via semantics and language use, but in this instance, the institution has actually ruled against doing that, and he clearly wasn’t aware of that.
this is disgusting
? She’s an immigrant, leave the country not that hard
I don't understand why male officers are present when girls/women are being searched or having their clothes removed. Surely, once they've established that the detainee hasn't any weapons or something they could hurt themselves with, that some type of covering is given immediately. Many of the women who end up in custody have already been victims of sexual abuse previously. Giving detainees some dignity doesn't hurt and doesn't require much effort. The police have a legal duty of care towards the people in their custody.
How do you think police should proceed if they're doing a welfare search, if only 1 female officer on duty is present in the facility at the time a female detainee is brought in?
What about if a female detainee is high on ice (common) and thus exceptionally aggressive. If female officers lack the physical strength to restrain such a person to perform such a search, how should police proceed?
Why is the focus of clothes being removed and digity only ever considered in these kinds of stories and by people like you in terms of female detainees? Why does it have to be a gendered problem?
Indeed, you're focused on male officers present during a female search, but you've neglected to consider female officers present during a male search or even homosexual female officers.
What about a trans officer, what should police do there in terms of them being present during welfare searches?
The world isn't black and white, ideal circumstances are rarely available. Welfare searches take place on video so any impropriety is captured and can be prosecuted.
At the end of the day people in custody aren't on a holiday. They've either committed a crime or they're under the influence of something which makes them a danger to themselves or others.
I mean, if this is shocking to you I'd hate to see how you feel about people on mental health wards and under section 12 orders.
@@tjmarx if you are a copper hope you get arrested its abit worrying you covering up for GMP
@@hassyg4083 What a completely and utterly absurd comment from a pseudonym sock puppet account. CZcams really need to do something about your kind. Put a bucket over your head.
Who cares? Women have pushed their way into male locker rooms after games are welcomed in males searches, eff them
You should look at how many of them arrests are vulnerable people
Disgusting. Glad this is finally getting mainstream attention.
Between 2010 and 2020 the UK population is estimated to have grown by 4.3 million (6.9% increase).
Since 2010 at least 663 police stations in England, Wales and Scotland have closed.
Discuss.
Ye they scream around in cars arrive when it's to late
They were strip searched.
shocking how Zayna Iman was treated, attractive women but hearing about her underwear being cut and taken by GMP officers is shocking. Hope she gets justice and compensation. Wonder why the media pixelated the corrupt GMP officers faces. Fear of getting dealt with on the streets?
You think the media pixelated it? Lol
WOMEN officers by the way.
Why are people surprised? This is happening every day of the week. All over the country.
And this isnt even mentioning the significant and extremely alarming mishandling of evidence that these guys commit.
Alarming indeed have you read the Andrew Malkinson case it’s barbaric when you can take 17 years of a man’s life through lies and incompetence then something seriously needs to be done as it’s not a singular occurrence and some would say not done without malicious intent either
Gmp are about to get more busy than ever before, so is the nhs
Why do GMP not respond to this disgusting behaviour? Obviously they have no culpability 😢
Every week 1100 arrests. That would only be warranted, with a certain percentage of inevitable mistakes, if there were 1000 crimes committed every week. Is that the case ? So question is: How may crimes are committed every week and … are still all crimes reported by the public ? Or is the cynicism concerning possibility of solution and prosecution of the crime so big that reports are lacking ?
'My personal body camera has been exhibited in as AKM/1'
I was laughed at for having physical disabilities, had my head slammed off the concrete floor until almost unconscious and im sure steven watson was present and took part in my abuse
That's happened to me when I was intoxicated and vulnerable for calling a officer specky after being pava sprayed while already handcuffed
If you got cctv surely you can see who put the body parts there? It's sickening thinking the person who did this is walking amongst the public
I once watched my pressure washer which was stolen , being driven past on the back of a trailer with the culprit who had stolen it ( had this from cctv when it was stolen ) at the time I was stood with a PCSO , they said , as he passed by , '' there is nothing we can do about it ''
A 20 year old boy who was relative of my friend was also detainee by these goons and he secretly told us he was rapes by 2 female officers after being beaten badly in his jail cell
what sort of crimes are they arresting more people for? what sort of crimes are they actually tackling? I don't feel safer when little 13 years old theafs or drug ill people are arrested. I feel safer when buglers, abuser and podophiles are arrested and properly investigated. Is my tax money actually going toward a political party's ego???
Who (what group of people) are they arresting/targeting more for this increase to occur?
‘Walking down the street while black’ will definitely be up there
Immigrants bring immigrants
Should investigate south Yorkshire police
90 GMP are under investigation for what?
Just letting you know like when I was done for arson I went to the police station first and told them what “I” how I was feeling then
I’m in court for something I didn’t do following being errsted my Manchester police. I’ve just texted my saying I will be dedicating my life too outing the corruption and flaws in Manchester police
for what crimes? are they real crimes?
Immigrant being immigrants
Power corrupts
Give people and inch they take a mile
Shut the fack up man. ''Power corrupts'' 😂
There are many historical references of benevolent powers in the books.
It's hard to know if the previous year figures were the right amount of arrests/charges or whether the police were not doing their job correctly and have started to turn that around. If extra facilities are required then build them! Ignoring crime just because the system is not currently capable of processing them is not what the public want.
Can tell the officer at 13.05 is full of it
I’d rather stay over in the POLCE station than in this bedroom
Sadly I can no longer say 'unbelievable'. If they decide they'll arrest and rape a woman in custody, all they have to do is lose the camera footage and say sorry
There is no need to strip search anyone they can be processed through a metal detector or similar device.
I don't know why they broke into her house, she didn't owe them a conversation, also I don't understand why they even stripped searched her.
I had a couple of welfare checks in the past, and I wish I never had them, but I'm grateful I was never arrested and taken in to prison or what not. I never even threatened suicide or self harm either, it's just lies. I'm never going to talk to a doctor or mental health "expert" about my feelings again, because sometimes the responses that I get are inappropriate.
Do I have permission to cut wires around my “parents house”
Are you Viking them up today please?
Shocking !
cumbria police just as bad they broke my arm on a so called welfare check and procede to cover there actions
An arrest is one thing but an authorised detention is another.
The answer to this is cameras. Cameras EVERYWHERE. On bodies, in cars, in vans, in custody suites, in cells. EVERYWHERE. The technology is there to do this easily. If things are not filmed, the police should be held accountable to explain why.
even when filmed they aren’t held accountable
The cps just withhold evidence
Got used to it as normal but it’s not funny
pervy police
Tired and tired
Men are treated 10000x worse in custody ive seen it
Nah why would I want to work when I’m like this electricuted human pin cushion
arrests up 52% charges only 30% looks like a fishing expedition to me. and I bet those 30% half get dropped by the CPS
His figures don't stack up!
They never gave me my things back
Sounds like the woman that was raped in custody and the 2 and a half hours footage has gone missing
Literally ⚠️⚡️⚡️⚡️
It’s so embarrassing 🙄🙄🙄🙄🤦♀️
Told them I’m not doing there job so many times and they keep ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Well done goes to show who the police protect
Immigrants being immigrants
Thats a lot of arrests but a rather disportionate amount of charges.
So lets see the breakdown of what the increase in arrests are.
Ye ....dropping smiles ..loitering ... smoking
Hes a liar and a manipulater that cop
Solutions are not created by attacking the poor.
I’m awake and 50/50 ok
GMP🤮
I just realised I don’t have to play along and that you can stop the ⚠️⚡️ from anywhere
It’s all on record at charls cross police station
Which is my bedroom
I’ll tell them you are
'Woke policing'? This woman grinds my teeth. I wish her everything bad.
I know! I absolutely hate when that clown Braverman bangs on about 'woke policing'. WTF is a home secretary of the United Kingdom doing talking trash, like some brain dead bigot in some back street pub, with St George flags draped all over it.
4 female officers strip searching a young woman sounds pretty woke to me.
Be pretty interesting to know the sexual orientation of those officers.
Why have they blocked the bog out?
Was there a turd in there or something?
We need a complete overhaul of the police force in Britain from Landsend to Lewisham they need to re-train every single officer male/female we need to flush out every racist/sexist,misogynistic & each officer to have a mental health assessment whether they are Black/White young or old in the end you’ve gotta be the change you wanna see 🙏🏾💯 (I appreciate all the police officers that do their job and treat the public the way they would want to be treated)
Too busy dancing at gay pride parades to do any proper policing.
They’re still ⚠️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Help
Manchester police are right up there in terms of effectiveness as the Met
People in that town, then, are just badder
Greater Manchester is massive and has lots of towns which one are you talking about?
@@sbaby-kg8hn North of the Watford Gap
And Manchester still have my t shirt and shorts
You can't swipe a cops face, no matter how funny you think it is... She was laughing as she swiped the cops glasses. She wasn't stripped searched but she should have never had her shirt removed for safety reasons if you left her BELT and PANTS on!
Watch the vid again
Lol, chill out Narc
She wasn’t left with a belt and pants on. That is a safety suit - thick material that can’t be ripped or used as a ligature.
@@jameswest9388 if that's the case, why no safety suit with a top?
Why was she trying to swipe her glasses it wasn't an innuendo was it
So whilst they could be at a serious crime, they decide to make soft arrests for nothing really?
4:19 Ohh, give me a break, 'she didn't want to attack her', sure, after swiping the officer glasses off, surely the police won't be waiting to be REALLY attacked🤦♂️
They were visiting her to do a wellfare check because of mental health issues and they new she was under the influence of an unknown substance. Their first priority should have been etting her checked out at the hospital, not arresting her and throwing her in a cell
the police caused that incident for arrest figures instead of getting medical help for her. corrupt force chasing figures for dangerous racist Suella
Perhaps people shouldn’t commit crimes then
Anytime 3 in the past hour would have been nice
Got deported I think
Having had personal experience with GMP I would definitely say it’s in serious need of reform to put it mildly things covered up, failure to investigate properly or at all and blatant sexual discrimination also been laughed at by officers twice once when my 10 year old daughter had been assaulted and secondly when I raised the issue of sexual discrimination it’s not just a one off it’s institutional answerable to essentially nobody as IOPC is pretty much all ex coppers and the “punishments” doled out to them for misconduct etc is laughable any other job swearing violence rudeness assault drug taking etc is an instant dismissal but if you check the police disciplinary records it seems to be taken incredibly lightly especially considering these are supposed to be public servants who lead by example they act like the mafia needs a real independent body with teeth and much more severe disciplinary procedures as mine and your tax money is currently paying for this shambles
Please tell this isnt true 🤔
There’re done messing around now I think you should pick them up here before they continue ⚠️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Gonna need another bottle of vodka by the end of the week otherwise I’m stealing it from the shop accords tge road to keep myself alive