Why 'The Big Six' Want Celtic & Rangers In The Premier League!│One On One
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- Welcome back to One One One, the most in-depth football show on CZcams!
In this episode, Hamill tries to make sense of the latest ‘British Super League’ rumours - an unprecedented move that would see #Celtic and #Rangers join the English top flight!
Apparently, Manchester United, Liverpool and the rest of the Big 6 want the Old Firm IN and up to four teams OUT! Why? Well, that’s the (multi) million dollar question!
We also cover Project Big Picture, the North Atlantic League, the North American League and much more.
Are you for the latest round of changes or against them? Let us know in the comments.
#BritishSuperLeague
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
0:26 - What is the 'British Super League'?
1:09 - Project Big Picture Redux?
3:22 - Haven't Celtic & Rangers tried this before?
4:10 - The North Atlantic League!
5:40 - Scottish football is...
6:50 - Conclusion
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• Project Big Picture Ex...
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What was your initial reaction and did it change by the end of the video? Hmu 👇👇👇
[Hamill]
Kinda want it to happen
I wouldn't mind it happening, as long as there is a relegation system as usual. I like the idea of bigger leagues in close countries like the British superleague or the benileague, a Portuguese/Spanish league could be exciting especially with the rot at real Madrid and Barcelona
If this is supported by the English government, it’s a disgusting and underhanded way to try and dissuade or destabilise Scottish independence by holding its sport (or at least 2 big parts of their sport) hostage.
Yes and no, in that order
Would like to see a team from Northern Ireland Get the same chance. Linfield or Glentoran
I find it funny that fans of English clubs were complaining about the super league destroying English football but are happy to see Scottish football destroyed by this idea.
aye be a shame to destroy a 2 horse race
Don't give a sh*t about St Mirren or Hamilton, sorry pal. Aberdeen can finally be top of the league.
Patrick, let's be honest. I'm Greek so I'm neutral. Trust me. It's an amazing idea.
1. It is a national league, to a degree, as you both are located in the UK.
2. Scottish Premiership SUCKS, as it has been a two-horse race for at least 30 years. And trust me, my friend. I know what SUCKS, there were times Olympiacos walked the league. I am a Panathinaikos fan.
3. You voted remain, right? So, there you go.
4. It is a nice throwback and it creates more derbies between English and Scottish giants, like the beginning of this sport used to be.
5. PREMIER LEAGUE MONEY. THANK YOU, SIR. This is probably why Hamill is really happy about this one. He's a Celtic fan.
6. It opens up a potential Aberdeen or Dundee United European run, in case they reach the Premier League, which could be refreshing.
Although I have to say. People protest when their interests are not met, but are happy to accept any change that fucks up the rest.
@@DimShamrock I can't stand either of the big two and therefore would love it if the Scottish game could thrive without them, however the league would reduce drastically in quality without them.
@@rodpoole323 I enjoy watching Scottish football, it's not about the top two at all for me but it would reduce the quality of Scottish football as a whole, and that's not good for those of us who don't support either of those two.
It would only be fair, if the ENTIRE Scottish league were adopted by the EFL and PL.
Change the prem into 22 teams and championship 26
How about adding the Irish league to the lower leagues
@@yoboijason586 the Irish hate the U.K., specifically more the English. That'll never work. If you're talking about Northern Ireland (who are Irish too I know) than maybe it'll work.
@@jldch26 more likely to have an all Irish league, which would be good cuz IFA teams competing with FAI would improve the latter
@@kjt66 Terrible idea, this puts UEL and UCL teams at a disadvantage
Thats the reason why the prem dropped from 22 to 20 teams
As a rangers fan Celtic and rangers would be a force if we had the money small clubs like Leicester have with our fan base it’s so frustrating to see that sheff united will get 100m for getting relegated while rangers got 5 mil for winning The league
Real hard man .... completely get you
Mate I'm a Celtic fan and I completely agree if we had more money players like eduard and morelos would sell for 50,000,000 at least the Scottish league is a burden for us look at mediocre players that go for 30,000,000 we have some players that are amazing that don't get looked at because "my nan could score in that league"
@@KianToal exactly mate
Get over your selves
Don't kid yourself
It'd ruin your club's legacy because you'd be mid-table and fighting relegation battles every other season
Still waiting for my expose on John Delaney and the FAI ❤️ I know it's gonna be a brilliant video 🔥🔥🇮🇪
Has to be done, robbie keane getting 5k a week still as coach and he’s coaching fuck all
Now this I wouldn't be against as long as it would still have a division system and just feature all UK teams. Project big picture I do not like though. I would like the idea of a UK Premier league so that it would be a country wide league
The Carabao (League) Cup should be revamped and include the Scottish teams for a experimental run of 5-7 years. Call it the British Super Cup or something similar. More rounds, more games, more money. Let it conclude in May. It might become something very prestigious.
JAYSTER HAS SPOKEN
You know what, that's not a bad idea.
I like the way you think...
its The English league cup so no
you cant be a member of two national Football associations at same time
@@DamnedDave what part of "revamped" and "experimental" did you fail to comprehend. The English League Cup is redundant when compared to the more historic FA Cup. This "proposal" would be a whole new competition. What's illegal about it?
4:04 Damn that was so weird 😂
Remember Rangers dumped Leeds out the Champion League ? English champions at that time , Leeds Fans applauded Rangers after the game , incredible bit of class from the Leeds fans
Did Gary mac score a screamer for Leeds?
I remember these games, I adopted Leeds as my English team after that
Leeds were terrible that season, they nearly got relegated.
Overrated champions. They finished 17th the following season
Remember Rangers being thrashed by Spurs in the early 60s and Leeds in the Fairs Cup.
Remember Rangers fans wrecking Newcastle when they knocked Rangers out of Europe as well?
Glad I find you guys' channels. Love your content
The exclusion of the rest of the Scottish clubs is a spit in the face of passionate Aberdeen, hearts and hibs fans. Aberdeen have more European trophies than Rangers, Manchester City, Arsenal and Spurs for example
That's combined I guess . Good point though
Spurs have won 3 European trophies.
Only issue i have with Aberdeen would be that, everything they have achieved in Europe was in one season, Under Fergie, with a tremendously talented group of players. Brilliant as they were it has to be said that everyone knows it was a never to be repeated one off.
Both Celtic and Rangers are bigger already than most of the top teams in England, their attendance at games and worldwide marketing is already huge. With T.V. money etc and the exposure of the Premiership they would very quickly become Mammoth. Attracting top players and huge T.V. audiences. You could probably guarantee 70,000 + at every home game. Their stadiums would need to be enlarged such would be the demand for tickets. Celtic at the last count had 17,000+ on the waiting list for season tickets, ... Playing in the SPL.
Imagine if it was the Premiership, every game would be like a European final. With better atmosphere and more passion. Bring it on, please. It is the sporting entertainment industry after all.
@@jimibhoy8935 that's a very good point. I still think the best option is to merge the entirety of the Scottish and English/Welsh football pyramids. As it just isn't fair on the likes of Aberdeen and Hibs that they get left behind simply because they're smaller clubs. It's the European Super League on a smaller scale in that the largest clubs are cherry picked to make more money whilst denying the rest of Scotland that opportunity. First season Celtic and Rangers would probably get relegated however their size would make them ideal targets for a takeover bid. My main issue with this proposed idea is that it excludes the rest of Scotland. They all deserve the same opportunity as afforded to the big clubs.
@@noahbowie5985 Well as I said, it's the entertainment business now. The other clubs have have had a good run of living off the old firm. If you don't have the fan base, or a product worth watching?? It's not a charity.
This is music to my ears, Rangers and Celtic would improve any league in terms of competition, they could and would compete for the top players, they have facilities second to none and have a fans base that encompasses the world. Both are not there just to make up the numbers, they are winners it is part of their DNA. Bring it on!
My only thing with this really is the travel for away fans, Newcastle to the south coast is already one hell of a trek, I just imagine if Southampton where to go to Celtic there’d be very few who actually turn up
I think it could be a novelty for a couple years. I also think there are enough Old Firm fans down south that they would travel.
I dont think thats as much of a problem as people think, Germany is able to cope with a large country, if one or two games are too far to travel to then oh well, not a huge issue
@@andrewrodgers8596 That's what i thought too. But then the railway in germany is more unified and stadium tickets are cheaper.
Um, if the trains actually improved (and if HS2 actually went all the way to Scotland, instead of stopping short!), I don't think it would be that much of a trek... By car, definitely, it would take ages (and already does), but by train, if ticket prices were low enough, and capacity on the network high enough, I think it could be viable. I mean, the railways used to run football specials for crying out loud!
@@mastertrams Funny thing is Scots a paying a hefty chunk of HS2 and it doesn't go there.
I think a easier idea would integrate the Scottish clubs into the fa cup , instead of putting Scottish clubs through out divisions displaacing teams that work to get there , and you can’t just have them start at leauge on either , I think the cup would be a cool cross over and , a good first step if this was ever going to happen
An easy start to integration would be scrap both Scottish and english league cups and have a British cup. That would get the ball rolling and generate interest
It would make Scottish football better and the Prem even better and it would also make the Championship better IF ALL Scottish teams would merge to create a British football league, I see no reason why not, welsh teams are already, end of the day we are the same sovereign state. Scottish teams joining a British league isn't the same as the Super League concept. It would actually help the smaller Scottish clubs too since they would be able to compete with similar sized clubs. You can still keep seperate FA Cups so Scottish teams would still be playing in a Scottish competition. Lets have a BRITISH PREMIER LEAGUE.
I’m a Hibernian fan, I hate both old firm clubs with a passion but this would be absolutely catastrophic for the SPFL.
What if Hibs went into the championship? Loads of big clubs in that league, more big games and the chance to get promoted, more money...shuffle the leagues.
Yes I agree for the SPFL...but is it worth keeping? Repetitive fixtures, small gates, poor quality of football, too many stadia that need upgrading, every year clubs knocked out in Euro first rounds. It is a second class league. Just think if the likes of Hibs and Hearts were in a British League...neither would be Prem prospects. In terms of size they are more like Championship clubs...the Championship is the 4th best supported League in Europe. Each club starts the season with around £7m TV money and Prem solidarity payments (more than Rangers got for winning the SPL). Who would be a more exciting prospect to play....Ross County and Motherwell or in front of near 30,000 at West Brom or Forest?
clive langman Exactly, if Rangers and Celtic are going into the EPL, they should shuffle all the leagues between 4 or 5 divisions, and have British leagues, more money for Scottish teams and probably English, and what they should try out next year is making the FA cup an all British affair, it’s not the competition it once was, I think it would be a shot in the arm for the it, imagine QF of Rangers v Spurs, Celtic v united or Aberdeen or Hibs v Leeds, Arsenal or Everton...it would certainly create more interest.
I can't see how anyone would think that. The domination of Rangers and Celtic is what is destroying Scottish football, because it renders it uncompetitive and uninteresting. If there's only 2 teams that can ever aspire to win the thing, and that looks as if it is going to remain the case indefinitely, then what's in it for the fans of the other teams? I don't even quite understand what is in it for the Rangers and Celtic fans, to win what is effectively a 2 team league with 8 others thrown in to make up the numbers. I can't understand what is remotely interesting about following a shooting fish in a barrel league.
law and order sound is gold😅❤
Haha, thanks man!
I personally think with the creation of the BSL it could majorly impact the SPFL unless they add the whole entire Scottish footballing pyramid it can’t just be a half measure from the big six, it’s either all or nothing.
It’s basically the sacrifice of Scottish football just to benefit English football. It can fuck right off.
Scottish football set up is a joke. All to suit the smaller clubs. We have a very small league, where everyone gets to play the old firm 4 times a season, hence doubling their share of gate receipts, etc.
Makes for a boring league where everyone knows each other too well. In my opinion anyway.
There should be more teams in the league, playing twice. Like a proper league. Better in every way, young players more likely to get a game. Less predictable games where they just cancel each other out with over familiar opponents and tactics.
And having said all of that, hats off to St.Johnstone this season, best season in their history.
@@grant6849 I mean its not like the Premier League needs Scottish clubs. It's doing just fine. It's whether or not Rangers and Celtic who deserve the chance, want it.
@@jbsmith8848 It makes the top 6 in England more money which is exactly why they want it
If Celtic and Rangers left to join the EPL then Wales, Ireland and Scotland could create a Celtic (keltic) league.
That would be as popular as the Johnstones tinpot trophy
The Welsh aren't in the least bit Celtic though. They were a principality of England at one point.
The clubs (and gates) would be so poor the whole thing would collapse,,,TV money would be non-existent given the alternative for viewers..
How about a UK Championship? Where Domestic League winners and Domestic Cup winners within the UK region participate.
England is still too lopsided powerful/rich. If they're not going to just have a combined British pyramid-tier where the top clubs from each national league meet, then the other three nations (Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland) might as well do it on their own. At least that gives them more bargaining rights for TV licensing fees and better club competition, thus making them more valuable and wealthier which where there problem has been all along.
Scottish lower league cup already includes Irish welsh and northern Irish top flight clubs. I don’t agree with a league but rangers and Celtic could definitely fit into the fa cup
It also includes English Teams from the National League
@@FozzQuaker yeah you're right, I only noticed that playing FM the other day playing Borehamwood in the final 😂
I'm perfectly happy for Scottish teams to be able to qualify for the big money of the premier league if that's what they want.
I might be one of the only ones but I reckon this would actually be a good and intriguing idea
I think it could be a good idea but I hated project big picture when it came out
Ruins Scottish football.
@@jordanstewart6012 Scottish football isnt that competitive anyway and removing celtic and rangers would probably make it more competetive
@@jordanstewart6012 plus the fanbases of celtic and rangers would benefit the premier league
@@Alex-rz2cg the two teams would obviously benefit the prem but it destroys the Scottish prem. they would get no money since there would be no big teams there anymore
Already a like for the use of the Law&Order *dingding 😂👌
You're a man of fine taste!
I still feel it’s unbelievable that the Old Firm still aren’t in the EFL pyramid. It would only be a positive to have them.
True but the old firm have loads of history in the spfl and to just throw that all away, all the Scottish rivalries I just dont know if I would want it as a rangers fan
I think the E in EFL explains why
erm because theyre in scotland
English Clubs wouldn’t have the bottle too bring in Celtic and Rangers
Yeah it’d be embarrassing spanking them by double figures every week....
I would like to see it as an experiment just see, if with the same financial backing as a Premier league club could they challenge for top 4, celtic definitely would of in the early 2000's with Martin O'Neil as manager and magnificent 7 banging the goals in. As for now I am not to sure. Also from a Liverpool perspective would be a chance to see if stevie g is a future manager
I could get behind the Scottish League merging with the English League. Though it would be folly to suggest anything other than a long struggle for them in joining the English League. As an aside, it should also be remembered that the Hearts and Hibs also have potentially huge supports and Edinburgh is one of the UKs largest cities. Oh, and Aberdeen. :P
They want Independence but want to play in the English Premier league.
Go and play in a league in an EU country, I am sure France, Spain, Germany, Dutch would welcome them.
Scotland doesn't want independence from the UK, I for one certainly don't. I'm both British and Scottish and proud of being both. Last referendum vote to stay won. As for the SNP getting in all the time, that's simply because the Unionist vote is split between all the other parties and lots also don't vote. If another referendum tomorrow, Scotland would vote to stay again.
@@overthewebb I think your right but this madness needs to stop. You can’t just keep having referendums it’s completely against democracy because what message does it send to people that voted to stay when they’re voices are completely ignored..?
who was the manager of Aberdeen last time the scottish champions which was Aberdeen?
The irony is Celtic fans want Scotland to leave the UK but want their team to also play in the EPL...🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣
It's called hypocrisy.
One of the killer blows for the European Super League was the fact there would be no promotion or relegation so how would they determine promotion in to this new league? What would happen if Ranger or Celtic finished bottom, does that mean Aberdeen or Hibs or even St Johnstone replaced them?
Not gna lie, you made me think it was actually feasible by the end (I'm a Rangers fan). I think our current squad who just won the SPL honestly would struggle to get into the top half of the EPL. But given the support size and a few years to build I think they could become force as could Celtic, but and it's a big but. It would absolutely kill Scottish football altogether as none of the other teams can do anything in Europe meaning less coefficient points each year making the SPL weaker and weaker year on year. Hard to say how I feel about this one. Great vid tho
Fairish assessment...I think the current Rangers squad would not even be guaranteed a top place in the Championship. Let's face it teams coming down from the Prem are leaving it with £90m place money and then £100m parachute money over 3 seasons. For all Rangers support it's not generating anything like that income and can't afford to pay the transfer fees of many Champ clubs nor wages. The situation has created a Prem superleague because Championship clubs without Prem failure money don't stand a chance of getting there...and that's the scenario likes of Rangers would face. However SPL is a second class league, too many repettive fixtures, too many small clubs, too many grounds that need rebuilding, too poor standard of football, small attendances...so if something is not done to boost the Scottish football economy (lesson there for separatists) the only obvious outlook is that it will continue to go backwards. And again face it..when 's the last time a Scottish team did anything in Europe/ Over the last 20 years Hoops have been losing to minnows like Gib Lincolns. SPL structure is so weak that from the outside it doesn't look worth saving.
You may want to check/fix the chapters.
They not working for ya?
@@EuroFootballDaily I think they were written in the wrong format when I first looked. (0.00 instead of 0:00). They seem to be fine now.
Why not something like a "British Super Cup"? A competition with each country league and cup champions. It could be interesting to see.
The British Isles, Scandinavia, iberia, etc. Why not? It could be a good thing.
Great info and opinions
no play offs and I like this idea. I just don't like how long I would need to travel for away games :( - Rangers Fan
Jesus, Glasgow to Southampton is just a pain in the arse to travel isn't it.
I'm for a champions league playoff
@@khaitranngoc4176 fly probably cheaper £29 return
I wouldn't mind a combined total british league system, would have to include the whole of scottish pyramid though I feel.
Idk what the feeling is amongst Scottish football fans, but the only drawback for me is the potential politcal instability of Scotland leaving the United kingdom. But hopefully we can get passed that.
Good for all parties involved
....but most of the Scottish pyramid could not afford to be in a British League...clubs no bigger than National League and even the regionalised 6th and 7th tiers underneath this. As for the separatists they don't care about the UK..why should they be considered?
I think the EFL cup should remain for teams that have no European football for that season. This can help teams that have no European football in the EFL to qualify for the conference league and build from there. You can also get some great match ups and derby's from this.
I also don't know how much the money would close the gap, I feel like rangers and Celtic would end up midtable regulars but more often in the bottom half than the top, we have seen clubs in the prem for years and year still not be able to make any real dent in the league even with the money cause that gap is already so wide
When I think about it, Glasgow as a metropolitan area is more populated than Merseyside. I'm sure that if they had funding that EPL teams get, Rangers and Celtic could at least compete with clubs like Everton
Add in Ireland and N. Ireland too and the fanbase that WILL travel to games increases hugely.
Alo, as the old firm dominate so much they have a large following throughout Scotland, not just in Glasgow.
@Pissed Bob Ross Lmao they'd probably still be able to compete with them at bare minimum
If this happened it would need to be done properly with all other teams and lowers leagues all mashed up together in a pyramid
Treat it like a Conference system if need be. Have the top teams from each league (Eng, Scot, Wales, Northern Ireland) form a combined British Premiere League pyramid-tier.
If England won't have it then the three others should do it on their own, at least that gives them more bargaining rights for TV licensing fees and better club competition, thus eventually making them more valuable and wealthier which has been their issue all along.
I’ve always said that Rangers and Celtic should be drafted into the championship. I guess by doing that then they’d have to earn their place into the prem and looking at the values of the clubs they are the equivalent of lower prem/upper championship anyway
The values of the clubs ? What are you talking about. Eyeballs on games, stadium, fan base, season tickets, merchandise, kit sales rangers and Celtic are two of the biggest in Europe. 🤡
Rangers have won a European cup and played 4 European finals Celtic have won the champions league and played 3 finals what are you talking about 🤣
Doesn't matter what division they get put into, a big player will acquire them and push them to the premier league.
@@warrenburke9310 that’s ancient history for Prem fans. I wouldn’t be totally against them coming to the prem but a championship campaign would at least make the earn it
@@jackbrownio3the only way they can legitimately enter (without the complete merger of the English & Scottish Fa's) would be to be classed as entirely new clubs and apply to join the English League pyramid at tier 10, just like every other new club has to. If they were willing to slug it out for a minimum of 9 years to compete in the Prem then I would give them their dues. If they ever got entered any higher just by virtue of being Celtic and Rangers, as a supporter of a non-league club, the whole concept of fair competition would be dead to me, and many others
The Old Firm’s addition to the English Pyramid would be amazing. I am not in favor of a reduced Premiership and playoffs, though.
Never understood why we have the SFL and the EFL and not just a British Football league, with ALL Welsh sides, ALL Scottish Sides and ALL English/Isle Of Man sides included. It would be good for every single club involved not to mention introducing a much needed refresher and a chance to overhaul the currently extremely stagnant EFL lower leagues
Rangers and Celtic are good for Scotland.... But they're no better than any team in the English championship. I think the big 6 want some new whipping boys and frankly putting them straight in the premier League would be an insult to the premier League and the championship.
Thats right, there is already Welsh clubs in the Premier League, in fact, I'm think there is even an English border club that plays in Scotand
I actually never understood why Welsh teams are in the EFLs and Premier League but not Scottish teams. If Scottish teams were just to join and the overall competitions stay the same then I don't see an issue, the problem is how would we go about integrating them into the leagues, who goes to what league and who's spot are they taking...
It's not really the same thing
Have one big mega tournament to battle it out to see where teams end up 😂
@@ryansmith-jr4gn what's the difference? Not being ignorant, genuine question.
Wales wasn't technically a country until recently, it was/is very integrated with England infrastructure wise
A few Welsh clubs have been part of the English leagues for over a century thats why, while Scottish clubs were happy to do their own thing all this time. But now its not good enough for some of them. Also travelling from one end of England to another for away games takes long enough, ask fans from the North East and South West/South coast about that.
It would have something along the lines of the super league effect in Scottish football. A merger of the leagues and placing teams in championship, league1 & 2 based on a co efficient type system to get it started. As a Rangers fan I don’t want to be placed straight into the Prem we should have to earn that right but also starting in league 2 would be a joke.
A better solution would be a British cup, top 6 of each league go into a tournament but then fitting that in would cause problems.
There's more chance of a three legged cat burying a lump of shit in an ice-rink
I don't think this is enough if it does happen. If Celtic and Rangers come in, I'd say we have to change UK football right down to the Non-League level (don't worry, this would still be localised, as it is now), merging the English, Scottish, and Welsh league systems together (oh, and maybe chuck in Northern Ireland too, if something other than a ferry is organised for transportation between the two islands!)
Celtic and Rangers need to merge with the premier league to become a team worth playing in Europe in the modern age.
You could even do something like split the 2nd division of football by nationality and the top 2 Scottish teams face each other, the two top Welsh teams and top 2 English teams play one last game against their national counter part and that way you will always have at least 1 Welsh and 1 Scottish team in. If they're as good as they as they think they are rangers and Celtic will eventually get into the prem and stay in there.
Would also help Welsh football which obviously isn't taken that seriously either as rugby is religion there!
Give me a cold night in Inverness over a cold night in Stoke anyday of the week. Rangers are proud to be British but first and foremost we are Scottish
You should maybe tell that to the rangers fans who celebrated England beating Scotland then. They're an absolute joke.
@@MBMackie89 All Rangers fans have different opinions mate am sure alot will be supporting croatia over Scotland at the Euros.
@@itsoktobewhite1987 how sad is that?
I am 100% for a merging, it’d be amazing to travel to Scotland for games and vice versa but j wouldn’t take just Celtic and ranger it’d have to be a merger of all the leagues
I don't think Pompey fans would relish an away trip for a week day evening game against the likes of Peterhead or Forfar Athletic.
@b n Forfar fans don't even turn up for their home games.
@b n I was talking about Forfar. I think you may have intended to respond to Aled who made the original comment.
Oh yes Hamster let One on one rain down on me, love these eps
1stly, no dirty dogs? Hamil you know us better than to leave it out
2nd I think they would be welcome additions. The history of the clubs would be helpful in securing recruits as well as the money coming in. Could a season and a summer make them likely to survive? its hard to speculate since its hard to judge teams coming from the championship some years let alone the another division entirely but id love to see it
great vid as always and as my father and grandfather are rangers fans (sorry hamil) id love to see this happen.
A double serving of dirty dogs next time is in order!
Certainly can't speak for Rangers fans but as a Celtic fan while I think the increase in money would make us a force, I am completely against the idea. We're Scottish clubs and for all its flaws I love Scottish football
Each country should have a league on its own. The champions league just won’t be the same anymore if leagues combine. This would only be the beginning to a whole new game in the future
How the hell do clubs just 'join' the premier league lol. News flash - it's not possible now or ever, so let it go.
I think an easy way to start integration is scrap both the Scottish and English league cups and have a British cup instead. That would get the ball rolling and generate interest in Scottish v English fixtures
But the English don't want or need that.
Just a reminder simon davies is considered a foreigner for spurs in european competition. This is because he played youth games for the a team in the welsh fa. Rangers and celtic would have to have a serious chat with uefa.
Comparing the Old Firm with the English clubs is interesting for me a very interesting topic. Let me state first that I'm a Rangers fan.
The money the Old Firm generate compared to England is like comparing crumbs to a Royal Feast. However, Steven Gerrard had transformed Rangers into a team more than capable of testing England's big clubs and certainly good enough to avoid relegation from the English Premiership, and that's on crumbs. I can only Imagine what my club would be like after 3 seasons with £100m+ each year. Celtic too. The Old Firm need each other to survive in Scottish Football but if we went south, we only need a top manager.
I have no wish to give offence whatsoever but at the present time there are players in the Rangers squad who would not even get a contract with a Championship club and there isn't a single player of Prem standard. If there was they'd be off they'd be off and quadrupling their wages. I have no doubt though that given the fan base the Old Firm could eventually compete at Prem level...the problem is getting there...because until you do you havn't got the turnover to even begin to match the Prem clubs coming down. It has been super hypocrisy of the Prem club objecting to the Euro SL when they themselves have created a monopoly...and there's no way EFL clubs would accept Rangers and Celtic going straight into the Prem (they'd be straight back down anyway at the present time).
You'd be like Newcastle. To suggest you'd be up there with the big boys is nothing but fantasy.
That cup 00:24 is cooler than the UCL cup.
Merch
Always thought Celtic & Rangers should have been in the Prem from the beginning. Huge crowds and more international support, Liverpool vs Brighton or Liverpool vs Celtic, which is a more enticing fixture?
Liverpool vs Brighton
More international support? What are you smoking ffs?
Maybe they should form a British cup combining 10 teams in the first premier league each season 4 Scottish first four in the league, 3 from Northern Ireland, 3 from Wales. To make it twenty with a knock out.
This would only work if all teams were included into the English pyramid.
But no playoffs in the top flight.
They should be brought into the fa cup tbh
There is NO Old Firm, that ended in 2012, The Rangers Football Club plc entered liquidation on 31 October 2012. The refusal of the CVA forced the administrators to sell the business and assets of Rangers to a new company, operated by a guy ironically who went by the name of Charles "Green"
I'm pretty sure if FIFA see anything like a British or UK League they'll push for us to have a British or UK National team, would the Welsh and Scots be okay with this?
with the support the old firm teams have. in a couple years with premier league money, they could be fighting for at least champions league spots if not the title.
The ESL was by far the most stupid proposal that has ever been put forward.
I was always under the impression the ESL was a breakaway league for elite clubs in Europe in the same way the Premier League was. So they would take 4-5 clubs from England, France, Germany, Italy and Spain then maybe the three big clubs from Portugal, same with Holland, Celtic and Rangers etc then play in a big European league.
Effectively making the PL, La Liga, Serie A etc. 2nd tier competitions. But what we got was a watered down Champions League that excluded FIFA and banned 'lesser' teams from competing in it.
I was genuinely worried about the ESL, they were saying it could be worth 20-30bn per year (compared to the PLs 6bn) and it looked a massive proposition, it ended up being a lame duck.
Absolutely am okay with smaller leagues combining to boost their profile. A Unitied Irish League sounds tip top 👌🏽
100% for it.
The addition of the Old Firm to the Premiership would be good for both the Premiership and the two clubs. I have just one complaint about this analysis, as it refers to "Celtic and Rangers" whereas the proper order should be "Rangers and Celtic".
Dear Colin,
You noticed that too, perhaps the excuse has something to do with the alphabet? My excitement at such a prospect would be the shock of Rangers and Celtic supporters descending on some English ground and the home supporters realising that they can't get into the ground, even with season tickets?
Na wouldn’t be fair if the old firm got let in without a complete revamp of all league tiers there would have to be a fair slice of the pie right down the line or where every the old firm land there would be 2 English clubs missing out.
Rangers and Celtic would completely dominate down south after a couple of seasons of that sweet telly, cash💰
lol
would struggle to reach top half of table
no
Man könnte den Football Assiociation Challenge Cup etwas anpassen. Das Achtelfinale würde wie folgt zusammengesesetzt sein: England 12, Schottland 1, Wales 1, Nordirland 1, Gibraltar 1.
Funny how the EPL is only interested in the old firm joining when the TV rights deal is up for renewal 😒
This is dead in the water for three main reasons;
1. There is no way that the Premier League could get the fourteen votes they need for it to go ahead because far too many in the bottom half of the Premier League would be putting their finances at risk. There would be more to lose than picking up a little extra revenue from a once a season visit from Rangers or Celtic.
2. The Scottish FA would never agree because they would be losing two of their major clubs. As a result Scotland would lose EUFA co-efficient points and it would be much harder for any remaining Scottish teams to get entry into any UEFA competitions beside the qualifying stages.
3. discussion
What happens to the international teams. If there was what would in effect be a British league would FIFA then start to question why Scotland, England and Wales have there own international teams.
Dumb idea....leave the clubs where they are. Nothing against Celtic or Rangers but even i know that league would literally die if this were to happen
As a Celtic supporter I’d love this honestly
I thought you sweaty socks want your independence, now you want to join our premier league dream on
@@kevinsteadman7215 They hate the English, sing pro-IRA chants and songs about lee Rigby, they are proud Scots with Irish roots who call the English sassanachs yet they'd love to join the English league. That tells us everything we need to know.
im a celtic fan and i hope it happens
We don't want Celtic. Go play in another league but not ours. No time for your sectarian crap.
You are aware that you can’t play in the premier league if your not part of the UK right? You can’t have your cake and eat it
I've heard reports on this since I was 5 years old. I'm now 32. It's never going to happen. If the bigger teams can't be bothered with the league cup then make it an EFL team only competition so the other teams have a better chance of silverware. So the League cup and Paint trophy for EFL, The FA cup and Premier league for the rest. Charity shield to be played by winner's of FA and League cups.
Not bad!
@@EuroFootballDaily I'd have the Europa League qualification places as league finishes only. The FA cup winner to go into the Europa Conference League. The League cup an EFL only competition with the Championship clubs coming in at round 3 as the Prem teams do already and as stated, The FA and League cup winner's to play each other in the Community Shield.
ESL would've bridge borders and allow football to include clubs from developing league. I know the proposal isn't perfect but with time improvement could be made. I'm totally for any competition that rival uefa. Football need to be reform
Old Firm fans despise each other but I guarantee we both don't want nothing to do with this or ever joining English football in any format
Why don’t they integrate the Fa cup with Scottish clubs first? More games, more revenue for smaller clubs in England and Scotland, the chance for big games between The old firm and English giants, this will also generate more interest in the FA cup as it is dying.
I dont understand what is wrong with the status quo right now ..... the problem seems to be a few mega rich owners are try to find ways to get even richer .... these players cant play 200 games a season like wtf do these owners want
Interesting to see if playing regularly against top teams would improve Celtic and Rangers. As they currently alternate with periods of dominance Scottish football is boring and the teams cannot compete in Europe. Merging leagues makes sense provided it is done on sporting merit. The ESL with the likes of Arsenal and Tottenham (neither of whom have won a CL or even a domestic title for years) in and the likes of Bayern and Ajax. (with multiple CL wins, albeit Ajax not for a while) excluded the ESL was a joke.
This would completely cripple an already exciting and unique footballing environment. Terrible idea...
How integrated would Rangers & Celtic be to the English football pyramid? Would they effectively resign from Scottish football altogether and be like Cardiff, Swansea, Newport & Wrexham, essentially English clubs by proxy? I suspect they wouldn't want that as it would complicate them being able to compete in the Scottish cups. But the only other way would be to turn the premier league into an Anglo-Scottish league and have a system of relegation and promotion that means that in theory if Rangers or Celtic got relegated they would go back to the SPL rather than being dumped into the English Championship, but would also mean that other Scottish teams would also, in theory, have a chance of promotion. I suspect that if this happened they might set a limit of 2 Scottish clubs and have a promotion/relegation play-off to effectively block any other Scottish clubs from having any chance of joining it. There's lots of things to be ironed out, but it's an interesting conversation to have anyway.
Scotland : we want independence
Also Scotland:
An old firm in the premier league would be amazing I can see this happeing within 10 years
Would be shit. They’d get their arse kicked each match
@@miamitten1123 if rangers or Celtic get in after 10 years our players would be of a higher caliber because of the funds over the decade so how a Steven gerrard comes in stops in a row in 3 years with no where near the funds imagine what he could achieve at a higher level with more access to funds just stupid to assume we or Celtic wouldn’t evolve over that time period
@@ilionmmai5982 Oh dear you must be twelve
Damain - There is no 'old firm'. Only one club has survived with their history intact. Celtic FC. One club since 1888.
It's mad how the 2 main Edinburgh clubs aren't as big as the Old Firm clubs to make Scottish football actually excited. 🤔😴 Either all Scottish clubs join English football to form a united British league or none of them. An away day to Edinburgh or Aberdeen would be fun along with Glasgow.
The biggest Match on a World Level would be Celtic v Man Utd or Liverpool . . .
That would break ALL RECORDS in Asia , America . . . . And even where I am Australia
Small clubs like Southampton ,Leicester ,crystal palace,,etc wont want 2 HUGE clubs joining their league
Why not use it as a Cup similar to FA cup and get rid of EFL Cup?
Celtic and Rangers would rip that league to shreds with that money.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Comedy gold.
it would prob take both a year or three to get upto speed, they would need protection against relegation for the first bit of time
It's just to try stopping Scotland independence
I want a British super cup, where the winner of each league play in a big cup game at either Wembley or Hamden once a year to kick off the season
The only fear that I have as a celtic fan is not that either old firm team could compete but that joining the EPL would send ticket prices sky rocketing to ridiculous beyond the average glasgow supporters as has happened with many english clubs.
You'd never see Europe again.
Give us 5 tears and premier league money we would be competing for ECL place and the title and CL within 10.
@@elainecannon24
It took 14 times European trophy winners Liverpool 20 years to win the title again
Man Utd haven't won the title for 10 years
Arsenal haven't won the title for 20 years
Huge clubs like Villa, Newcastle, Everton, Spurs & Leeds can't get a sniff
but you think Celtic would walk in after 100 years playing Raith Rovers and Partick Thistle & win the title after 5 years. '
Diagnosis: deluded!