What impact do CELTIC & RANGERS have on SMALLER CLUBS?
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- čas přidán 19. 01. 2023
- Do Celtic and Rangers have a positive or negative impact of clubs up and down Scotland? From their domination of the Scottish Premiership to the inclusion of B teams in the Lowland League, I asked Scottish football fans their opinions on the Old Firm giants.
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Do you support a team in Scotland that ISN'T Celtic or Rangers? If so, who? And how do you think the big two impact your club?
Spent my football supporting life around the lower and non league. Rangers and Celtic (or Hearts etc.) Colts in the top 4 leagues or "SPFL3" will be dreadful. They have already made a mockery of the lowland league
@@RossParker1877 I know you love your lower league fitbaw. I really hope the B Teams don't go into the SPFL. I don't mind them in the Lowland League but also understand the arguments against it at all. Especially from teams such as Clydebank who are desperate to get promoted to the league they bought their way into. Cheers for watching mate!!!
Very negative effect, religion for a start. They receive better decisions from refs, they steal the best Scottish talent, they wreck towns and stadiums wherever they go, domestic violence rises on old firm days, the list is endless
I support the Gorgie jamtarts and although still one of the bigger clubs in Scotland it does have a negative affect, if you ask an English person about Scotland football they'll probably just say rangers and Celtic. They do stop other teams from competing on big competitions like the champions league and Europa League when I do think the other teams in Scotland can compete they just don't have the chance. It is great when you beet them tho. Come on hearts🇱🇻🇱🇻
Support killie from the fans side of things I’d say negative as a majority of fans outside Glasgow still support an old firm team however on the football itself with the coefficient etc that brings more European places which also brings in more money so it is really a coin toss
Too many people outside Glasgow supporting both teams and not supporting the local teams
So does that go for man u ? Chelsea? Other big clubs ?My dad was born in wishaw brought up celtic fan i was born in Livingston brought up celtic fan my best mate
Brought up in glasgow man u fan my other mate his father is from leeds lives in glasgow but is a celtic fan just because youve from the town doesn’t mean you have to support the team
@@shaunconnor7525I think he's clearly making a statement that too many people outside Glasgow are not supporting their local team. Which is true. Doesn't mean its wrong or right, just the result of where Scottish football is at and why its in such a mess. 60,000 go to see the top club, while 4, 000 go to see the bottom club IN THE SAME LEAGUE of just 12 clubs. Thats mental
@@Guttlegob the problem with this is no one puts themselves in. If youre from Aberdeen lets say, and you need to love to Glasgow, surely youd want your newborn kid to share in your love of Aberdeen, go to games with you, watch on TV in your jerseys, rather than support their "local club" of a Glasgow team?
Theres three kinds of fans;
1. People who follow what their parents teams are.
2. People who pick a team as a young child.
3. People who follow a team that a friend or partner supports.
I dont think any of those people deserve a finger pointed at them. I personally chose Celtic at about 6 years old. My girlfriend wanted to share on that with me and began supporting them too.
Its hard for me, someone who now lives in Paisley, to want to chuck St Mirren into it.
@@shaunconnor7525 The major difference is that 60,000 people turning up at Celtic is a far larger proportion of Scotland's population than 60,000 at Manchester United is of England. Rangers are pretty much the same. When the Old Firm are playing the fixture totally dominates life, the pubs are rammed, every corner shop and carry out with a TV behind the counter has it on, if there's no TV somebody has a smartphone with it streaming. Despite this, football remains hugely popular in Scotland, it sustains a massively better attended domestic League than Northern Ireland or the Irish Republic, even if it could be argued that some of the reason is that fact Celtic and Rangers both draw support from the communities there. Take the Old Firm out and replace them with nothing and you'd still have decent per-capita support. Scotland does well to sustain a 42 team League and a huge and increasingly integrated pyramid with genuine strength in depth (two non League teams knocked out Premier League teams in recent seasons). So while I'd say fundamentally there is no moral difference between an English person from Accrington or Telford supporting Manchester United or Chelsea, than a Scot from Stranraer or Coatbridge supporting either of the Old Firm, the effect is so much bigger on the rest of Scotland due to the proportions they represent.
@@shaunconnor7525 Doesn't mean you have to, but why not? Imagine the difference if Livingston for example, instead of having a town full of armchair Rangers and Celtic fans, had you all coming down to watch them? Their crowds would double. I'd say there's definitely more of a connection with your football club if you're from or live in the town/city they come from. Couldn't bear the thought of ever having to travel 40-50 miles to watch my team at 'home'.
The younger fan complaining about Aberdeen not getting enough coverage should be happier now. Aberdeen has certainly had *a lot* of coverage over the last couple of days.
For me the real issue is people not supporting their local clubs.
In the same token would you pay £28 circa to watch some local teams. 🤷
@@Steviemac05 £8 for my local team.
£24 for mine and aye its about local pride. Then with increased ticket sales the product on the park improves bringing in more fans so on
I live in Ayrshire, from Paisley originally and I am a massive Celtic fan. By what you're saying I should have supported St Mirren. Now that I live nearer Ayr would I have to switch teams?
I support Celtic because it is my family team, and I would much rather support the team that my Dad supported and experience it together than support the team just through geography.
I do understand why people supoort a team because they were brought up beside the ground but supporting a team through your family is just as valid
Supporting the same club as your family is Valid if your family came from the area the clubs from. My brother in law stays in Lanarkshire but was brought up next to Ibrox so he still supports rangers. He takes his son to Motherwell games cause that's his sons local team. So aye thats exactly what I'm saying
If the league was expanded to 16 or 18 teams, then you'd have a broader title race.
Teams like Hearts, Hibs & Aberdeen could progress more.
Playing the same teams 3 and 4 times in a league season is a joke.
It gives the Old Firm 3 and 4 chances to put the rest further behind them.
I would agree with this idea. Think they could easily put together a 16 team Premier division which in the long run could narrow the gap at the top. I think one counter argument I heard is the other clubs like to play the Old Firm so often cos of the revenue those games generate. But the prospect of more top flight derbies across the country, more euro places opening up and the title race to become less of a procession in the long run this would benefit the league.
100% agree mate, I've been saying this for years. Check my comment out near the top
This is the biggest thing for me. The argument at keeping the league at 10-12 to ensure more matches vs old firm is bunk. The 3rd/4th matches between the OF and the rest is when the league gets blown open wide. Picking up 4 points in 2 games vs the OF is doable for the next group of teams, but it usually ends up 0 points over the last 2 games and that's like losing 2 consecutive "6 pointers". If they went to an 18 team league with only 1 relegation spot, and 1 relegation playoff spot then within 3-5 years a lot of clubs could stabilize and slowly start crawling up the league and make it closer every year. The argument that bringing up even weaker teams like Raith Rovers or whoever making the quality drop is missing the forest for the trees. There are already blowouts now, at least with 18 teams your Aberdeens, Hibs, Hearts, Dundee Uniteds can pick up some big wins too and carry that momentum with them into their matches with the OF.
I agree with this and most of the fans want it too but TV revenue / prize money would drop dramatically as PPV is greater when the two Glasgow sides meet x4 times a year (minimum).
The game has been a bogie for a couple of decades now. The game is finished in Scotland. Correlation is not causation but it coincides with a naff Scotland national team.
2 leagues of 20 with 5 up and 5 down spread the wealth
I would as a Hearts fan, love any team within the premiership to challenge Celtic and Rangers for the title, not just Hearts. Just last year Tifo IRL did a great video breaking down why no club outside the old firm are likely to ever win the league again. To put it into context using Hearts as an example; Hearts made a profit of around £3m which for Scottish football, is a figure most clubs can only dream of as most clubs aim to break even. The exception of course is Celtic and Rangers. Champions League qualification alone bags a club around £14m, so you can see why Rangers and Celtic are so far ahead, not to mention their giant fanbase and stadiums that rake in revenue that no other club can even possibly match. It would be great to see another team win the league but sadly I think it is a pipe dream, I think Celtic and Rangers have to put it bluntly out grown the league, and need a new environment to compete in that is more their level.
As a Celtic fan, I agree with you. We need a more competitive league. But I don't know how this can happen. CL money is huge, yes, but we had very lean years under Ronny Dalia and Neil Lennon when we repeatedly did not qualify and Rangers (rip) went out the league. Still no one got near us. Its the fanbases and I don't know how that can change. As for moving to another league, I think most Celtic / The Rangers fans would want that. Trouble is, no one wants us.
You put your point across well Callum and I agree, some other comments in here make it sound like its celtic and rangers fault they are so much bigger. My great grandparents moved over to glasgow in the 30’s from donegal and I grew up watching celtic just like my father and his father before him etc. I also tried to support my local but I really dislike the teams fanbase which I wont mention the team. I feel like a lot of other fans would be in the same boat as me.
Spot on mate. I would love to see Rangers in EFL2. Rangers would be a PL club within 5 years, and competing for European spots in another 5.
As a Celtic fan I want us to stay in the Scottish league. That’s where we belong.
The Club that now operates out of Ibrox hasn’t posted a single £1 in profit since 2012.
In fact they’ve lost over £110m whilst putting in an extra £74m in 22 separate share issues (debt for equity swaps)meaning real losses of well over £180m.
Celtic operate well within our means we actually ended the last Financial Year with £30m cash at the Bank.
Had we spent that £30m in increasing the quality we bring in then this would be an advantage too far for any Club but the fact remains Hearts are a well run Club now who as you say are turning over £3m in profit.
I do t think it’s fair that a Club is allowed to operate with such losses as it is effectively denying a side like yours a chance at the CL riches that would transform your squad.
Rangers are now under a UEFA watch list for the next 3 years because UEFA know that they’ve been playing hard and fast with the relaxed rules under Covid.
I personally would like to see Hearts secure 2nd spot as this would show them up for what they are and have always been.
Clubs (x2) who have overspent to achieve results.
Sometimes outwith the laws of the game.
I love your passion for the Scottish game. There is no bias, just a love for everyone.
Great topic! More videos like this please
As a diehard Celtic supporter, I genuinely wish the other clubs posed had better chances. I'm obviously madly proud of my club and the many trophies we have achieved but the disrespect we get in England and abroad, particularly in the transfer market too, is because the SPFL isn't regarded as properly competitive. Suppose for teams like Kilmarnock, Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts, etc we are to you like Liverpool, City, PSG, etc are to us. Buying players at disrespectful prices who then go on to become stars. Even though we think it benefits us, it doesn't. It just means we widen the gap and essentially play against weaker teams. That being said, look at RC Lens, AZ Alkmaar, Union Berlin, Eintracht Frankfurt, Feyenoord. You absolutely can win silverware. All Celtic supporters will agree, more difficult domestic games but battering in the UCL, would be the outcome we all want.
In regards to the ticketing for smaller teams at home to Celtic & Rangers;
I was visiting Paisley back in September, St Mirren were playing Celtic at home and fancied seeing if I could watch it. Went to the ground fairly early to go to the ticket office and they wouldn’t sell me a ticket because of whatever rule they had in place about members only. I asked if I could buy a ticket after KO if there was any spare and was still told no.
At the same time there was 2 Japanese fellas wanting to try and get tickets as well (for obvious reasons) to no avail. I can speak a small amount of Japanese so managed to tell them what was happening, but St Mirren lost ~£120 + whatever we’d have spent on food drink. I can see why they do it but it’s money at the end of the day, isn’t that what these small clubs need? I’ll go to Celtic or Rangers next time and not bother.
That circa 120k never made teams any better or more competitive. It is a purely selfish argument to have more fans and try to justify it with money; when again, that money had bugger all impact.
It’s a shame you had to experience that as you just wanted to see a game. I’ve heard similar stories from other people from outwith who would like to see a match. The reason for the whole thing is to prevent Old Firm fans who can’t get tickets from coming into the home end as this has been a problem in the past.
We need a bigger league, 16 teams with 2 relegated and 3rd bottom play off. We'll never get more money, TV or sponsors if we never have more to offer. Biggest thing we lack in Scottish football also is private investment, who wants to invest in a club with no chance of reaching the Prem or even challenging the old firm. The spfl needs to put faith in Scottish football as a whole not just the 2 Glasgow clubs. Bigger league, Prem, Champ, league, 2 guarantee relegation/promotion, with play offs for each league played at hampden. More eyes on the Prem, more to offer will bring in more money, more money, better players, better league, better football. Plus bigger Prem means a bigger pool of top level players for the Scotland squad to pick from.
Aye Sam, good video, Scotland is a complex society when it comes to fitba.!!
Before the cash arrived at Rangers Scottish football was excellent Aberdeen, Dundee United, Celtic,Hearts, Rangers, were all vying for the league and all of them shone in Europe also.
yeah, people don’t know that Dundee United got to a european cup (champions league equivalent) semi final and Uefa cup final, pretty big feats tbh and Aberdeen have won a Cup Winners cup, it’s a shame that football is boring now, same in England as well as everywhere else
You can say the same for just about every league tho.
Love how you left out Hibs 😂😂👍🏻
I think Celtic and Rangers would also be better off with a bit stiffer compitition in the league. I personally would love to see more competition at the top in the Scottish Prem. Scotland is full of great teams with tradition and history to rival the big Glasgow teams.
The issue is Celtic and rangers are effectively operating on budgets that basically top end championship teams or equal to teams like Porto for example and the other next biggest like Aberdeen and hearts are on wages of a high end league 1 team, its such a big difference.
@@DabDabGoose That's up to the other clubs find a way to make there clubs more of an attraction. Unfortunately every league is roughly the same in Europe. One or two big teams . Lack of funding via TV etc kills our game. The money they sell TV rights for is an utter joke. Always said they should bring out there own app and sell the league worldwide . Would bring in far more revenue.
Celtic or Rangers support alwyas say they need stiffer competition but when it comes down to it they cant handle it, look at celtic a few seasons back lose a few games and its protests , death threats , manager and chairman gone
My work colleague is a big Hibs fan and she concedes its highly unlikely they will ever win the Premier while the Old Firm are about but the Cup competitions are far less predictable. I remember her wild celebrations after Hibs won the 2016 Scottish cup which is one of her happiest memories in life and I bet followers of any other club who have seen that and the league cup lifted have similar feelings.
It does seem like the Premier revolves around the Old Firm particularly on a financial level where they are influential in drawing outside attention to the league and boost gate revenue to any club they visit. But having been to an Edinburgh derby at Easter Road a few years ago among 20,000+ fans that generated a fantastic atmosphere and clearly got the players on both sides fired up for the occasion I know there is more to Scottish football than the Glasgow duo. Just a shame they don’t get as much publicity.
fully agree with your last point, theres so much more to offer outside of the OF, clubs like hearts, hibs, motherwell, st johnston etc actually have great fans, just sad to see they never get as much attention as rangers and celtic.
We can only hope a sheikh comes in a buys one of the big 3 then we'll see how loyal the old firm fans are when they're winning fuckall every year 😂
I would love to see Aberdeen l, Hearts, Hibernian, Dundee Utd, even Motherwell, any of them really, get a massive cash injection and challenge for the top two.
- Celtic fan.
Yeah think that's what the league needs or no offense but for celtic and Rangers to go through a tough period and even the playing field
I’m an Englishman who watches Scottish football. For me, the key to making the game more interesting and competitive is investment. My question is, what are the people in charge of the Scottish game doing to get more bums on seats and more viewers watching at home? One Aberdeen fan made a good point about getting more air time from Sky, as it’s mostly and understandably focused on Rangers and Celtic.
I’m a West Ham fan who follows Rangers, through family ties, but I’d love the Scottish game to get more people following it and the leagues to become more competitive. Likewise, I’d love to unify the English and Scottish leagues, and make it viable by creating a Conference style system, e.g, Conference North/South, with a club from each being promoted to the National league. This could be done by limiting the Premier League to 18 teams, and two relation spots, with one team promoted from the Scottish and English Championships… I realise I’m in the minority.
Quite simply they allow clubs retain tickets and play to half empty stadia.
@@williammcaleese2709 I can see the logic. Give the big two three sides of the ground, and the home team is effectively playing away.
The SFA are unable to grow the league, so the clubs have no option but to look at alternatives. Imagine a one-club city like Aberdeen having access to better players, etc? They'd be the Newcastle of the north!
Scottish football needs the Old Firm. The money the fans bring to the other 10 clubs on an away day, The UEFA co-efficient Rangers alone gave the league (imagine when both teams eventually get a run going) and the fact that the broadcast deals are really only interested in the old firm derby but are happy to accept the Edinburgh derby and the title race as part of the package. These are all just too much for Scottish football to lose.
Can other teams compete? Honestly, It’s unlikely but not impossible. If the old firm had a poor run (like that of Lennon’s Celtic or Caxhina’s Rangers) then it’s hard not to see why The current hearts team for example couldn’t push for the title. Of course though, The OF teams are hardly going to sit back and let that happen.
I'm sure it would be massively unpopular and controversial with many fans of Scottish football, as it has been elsewhere, but it may need Red Bull to buy a club in Scotland. With Aberdeen at least they wouldn't need to change the team's colours, as opposed to Hibs or Hearts.
Irn bru Fc 👀
They hold themselves back by not taking risks. They care about self-preservation at the most basic level.
I think it's easy to get caught up in our own world with football. We're only a country of over 5 million with a massive football fanbase albeit skewed towards the OF. You look at countries of a similar size like Norway, Denmark etc and their leagues are no better off than ours and have a couple of big teams that usually compete to a decent level in Europe. You can imagine that the fans of other teams there feel the exact same as non OF fans. In order to drag our league up we need better infrastructure from grassroots, better management at the top of Scottish football, and more business savvy people in the boardrooms at other clubs. It's all well and good sticking to morals and values but ultimately football is business and to develop the league we have to have non OF teams being innovative
I am a Yank that lives in the States who enjoys watching Scottish football. So I have a different perspective than probably most people on your channel..
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Many years ago, my local cable channel called "Fox Soccer Channel" would only show highlights of English Premier League games but would show Scottish and Dutch games in their entirety. And every week it was either Celtic playing someone or Rangers playing someone. So I think the reason that Celtic and Rangers are on tv so much is because it drives ratings . From what I can tell, they are probably the most popular teams in Scotland because they get the most exposure. Then there is a lot of hype when ever the Old Firm is played. Here in America. the Old Firm is the only derby that you hear about.
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Money drives everything in economics, for good or for bad. So if Hibs is not able to sell out a Celtic-Hibs game because not enough home fans are showing up, than that is not the club's fault. They need to sell as many tickets as possible to get in as much revenue as possible. More revenue means it has a better chance of improving the club.
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What they do here in the States at many locations, is that the away teams fans are allocated so many tickets. The rest of the tickets are open for home fans to buy. Then 3 hours or so before the game begins, the tickets that are not sold are available to anyone. This method allows the home team's fans to purchase as many as they want up to almost game time. And what is not sold is available to the away fans to buy.
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I am now a Amazon Prime subscriber only because they show Scottish games... not only do they show SPL games but also Scottish Cup games and clubs at different levels. Such as Raith Rovers, Falkirk and Bonnyrig Rose. Last night I was able to watch a Dundee FC play Ayr United which was really great. So Scottish football is starting to get great exposure world wide now.
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BTW, I saw so many Celtic-Rangers games that it turned me off from liking either of them and I ended up with having Hibs as my #1 Scottish team. But thanks to you and watching your channel, I have grown very fondly of the other teams in Scotland such as Inverness CT and Queen's Park. Thanks for all you do.
Great story but hibs. Come on support the team that has a sellout every week in Edinburgh and are absolutely massive
I fully understand the frustration from the home fans with 3 stands for the away team but when the home side can’t even fill out one stand for home matches what other options do they have to make money
As a rangers fan I would love to see the league become more competitive it would bring more focus and revenue to the league but unfortunately I can’t see the old firm allowing anybody to break up their duopoly and any billionaire trying to buy a club outside of the old firm would be opposed by the big two and unfortunately they have the voting power
I'm a Rangers fan and I'd love the OF to challenge in England. I wouldn't mind starting in the lower leagues. It would also make the Scottish Premiership more competitive. But, unfortunately Scottish football needs the OF.
do they?? look at the average attendances when rangers had their "troubles" only 1 clubs figures went down and you can guess what club, so be it if the level and standard goes down without them at least it would be competitive
@@andrewjohnston2850 of course they do. Anyone who says no clearly has no clue. Without the old firm the rest of the league would be lucky to get any sky deal at all. Any time Rangers or celtic play away, it's a home game. Only Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen have "decent" home supports at games. The rest are truly abysmal
@@davidhutchison3980 as i said it survived without 1 side of the "oldfirm" it would survive without the other also, standards go down money goes down so be it , a competitive league would be worth it, these clubs would just have to live with in their means and stop relying on "oldfirm" money ,and as you well know all the sky money and 50.000 fans every second week doesnt stop your club going to the wall
Old Firm?
That died in 2012.
@@brownwarrior6867 Technically it didn't and Rangers are still the same club but hey don't let me ruin it for ya lad.
At East end park the way the stadium is setup Allows for a 60/40 split, I'm unsure what other grounds setup is but when The 2 big Glasgow teams come to play, they have always had fans infiltrate with the home fans , plus a lot of Dunfermline fans do have a we soft spot for Celtic due to the jock stein history . Saying that we still love pumping the 2 of them to which happens frequently especially at eep saying that lol its 10x returned when we travel ta Glasgow . Both are good teams that do bring a lot to Scotland though iv always said this 4x games vs the same team a season is 1 of the many reasons the OF hold their power
😂😂😂😂 please tell us all about the frequent pumpings of Celtic, this will be fun.
It’s the same in many countries where teams are dominant, yes we did not do well in the CL league however got to Europa cup final last season “Without TV money” so all in all I am happy with the Rangers
I will never understand why people don't support there own local clubs, be it in England or Scotland or anywhere else This is the best video your done,
I always wondered if everyone in Sscotland supported celtic or rangers even as a second team and am so pleased there are people
who hate the big,greedy two too,
If it wasn't for the big 2 you would have even less money than you do now.
It's hardly greed. CFC and RFC don't force people to support them. Everyone has a choice. Calling them greedy because they are financially stronger thru massive fan bases is bang outy order.
Everyone in Scotland doesn’t support the old firm. Embarrassing comment 🫡
@@1888.cfc. typical bitterness/jealousy
You don't just support Rangers or celtic...your born into it. Its a family thing...
I think as as outsider it brings a healthy interest to have these two absolutely massive clubs in the league, which financially benefits the league.
However I can understand why with two teams running away with it each year it makes the league boring and this has been the case since aberdeen last won iy in the 80s. I can also understand why people may hate all the negative political and religious guff that goes with the two.
Saying this as a person who likes Rangers
i mean ffs the last time a Non Old Firm Team won the League was Aberdeen in 1985 that's 38 years ago and oh yea they were Managed by Sir Alex Ferguson ....... that tells you how fucking long ago that was Aberdeen have since finished runner up 9 times
The impact of the Old Form could be seen in what happened after the 2012 Rangers events. Although Celtic performed somewhat well in Europe, overall Scotland coefficient dropped dramatically. Also as international image, Rangers and Celtic are the main vectors. I came to know clubs like Hearts, Hibs, Falkirk and so on, when I was younger, due to these two. Now, winning the Premiership is a hard task for any club other than Celtic. Even Rangers struggle a lot to keep the pace at the moment. Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen seem to have the best chances to break this duo. They are relatively stable financially and have large fanbases. The key would be getting good players, developing them even more and keeping them for longer. But that means money and in some cases you have to convince them to stay. Hearts couldn't keep Souttar, but anyway they would have needed many more good players to even mount a challenge for Celtic and Rangers. So at this moment I don't see how a third club could win the championship with the current resources. Maybe only some wealthy foreign investor to come and take over an Edinburgh club an buy an entire squad to try to do something. However, even with those money, that would take probably 2--3 years to build a coherent team.
Not even remotely interested in coefficients
I want a challenging league and if old firm were not currently involved , would be six or eight teams in with a shout
Sam I collect football tops and I am so jealous of your Loch Ness fc top behind! Any ideas how I would go about getting one as I’ve tried online and can’t find one anywhere
Watch the vlog again you can buy them online from there club shop.
I had a look at the time but at this time of year they may very well not have any left because they are such a small club but they where available at the time of Sams vlog.
@@alanfox691 cheers bud. I’m actually heading up that way tomorrow so might try get one from the club. Cheers
Having seen the infrastructure of most Scottish League clubs it's a fact that Celtic and Rangers are way ahead of the rest. It would be good to see Aberdeen, Hearts/Hibs (or anyone) challenge the dominance of the big two from Glasgow but I think it's less likely now as Celtic/Rangers are too far ahead of the rest. Not happy about it but the Scottish Cup or League Cup is still the best chance for a non Old Firm team to win a major trophy in Scotland. A heavy cash injection of a Man City type into a Scottish club outside the Old Firm is the only way the Scottish Premiership will be won outside Celtic or Rangers. Scottish Championship or Scottish League 1 probably best if you want to support a Scottish team in a competitive division which throws up a surprise or two.
I like that you spoke to aberdeen fans. For me that is the most frustrating club in the spfl. One city club in the North with a captive audience but still can't fill a stadium. They need investment but listening to their fans you can hear the lack of ambition.
Aberdeen have a good amount of fans just none want to go to pittodrie cause its old and run down or that the city is on its own no other big places within idk an hour of it
I can see if definitely making fans of teams that aren't Celtic or Rangers not feel as passionate, as it makes you feel like you're cheering for nothing (knowing your favorite most likely aren't going to win the in league, or the Scottish Cups).
At the same time, I feel like it also hurts the Old Firm teams, as they'll get into the Champions League, but usually get knocked out quickly, since they're under prepared for the tougher teams in Europe.
BTW this is all coming from an outsider (cardiff fan) so im not hugely educated on scottish football, but this is just my opinion.
its honestly a 50/50 argument, rangers and celtic have a huge impact financially and recognition wise of the scottish league, they're huge successful clubs who (mostly) brings a great image of scottish football.
But on the other side i understand why people say its killing the league, its been 40 years since a team outside of the OF won the prem, starting to get a bit stale. Personally I have no issue with rangers or celtic but i think its very important that the youth start to support their local team, whether its a local prem team or a division 4 team it really helps a lot and it gives well needed gate money to the struggling clubs.
its the same argument with the st johnston v rangers cup tie argument, giving rangers 3 stands will boost financial gain, but to any chairman who actually cares about the club, the st johnston fans should come first, they're the people pumping their well earned cash into the club week in week out, and deserve priority.
i would also love to see more funding towards other spfl teams, imagine how exciting the league would be if there was a top 6 format similar to the english prem, where for example the top 6 were
rangers
celtic
aberdeen
hibs
hearts
motherwell
big title races for all clubs every season, no one was guaranteed to win it unlike nowadays, i fully believe that this would boost the image of scottish football by 10x and would also attract more local fans and more media coverage.
The problem is, how do you get more funding to the other clubs when the biggest single reason Celtic, and in the past Rangers, dominate is because of the huge fanbases ? Criticise some for being glory hunters but Celtic sell out almost every match - even midweek in January for routine games - and Rangers fans stuck with it all through their demotion years. They are loyal and they turn up all the time.
On the lower league point of view. I'm a Celtic fan but I attend many Gala Fairydean Rovers games as they're my local team. I will 100% support them over Celtic B when they play.
The growing financial disparity between clubs is an issue for every league not just Scotland. You could pretty much predict the rough grouping of English Premier League teams over a season for example.
True but there's always a couple teams that stand out like arsenal, Newcastle, man utd this season
From a Motherwell supporter's point of view, Rangers and Celtic are just so financially ahead of everyone else in the league that it's almost impossible to compete, barring some kind of Leicester-City-winning-the-league miracle. And that would be finishing 2nd for most teams.
The Champion's League spots bring in so much wealth to the OF that's just not proportional to what other clubs earn.
Not to mention as soon as any other team in the league finds their feet, and has a few top quality players, they will get signed for a few million quid by Rangers or Celtic and the squad is back at ground zero/rebuilding phase. David Turnbull being a good example. Signed for Celtic for a few million, his value probably increased x5-x10 overnight after the transfer because he's now at a bigger club on larger wages. Motherwell are back to rebuilding and trying to stay in the league. It's obviously a good thing to bring in the money for these players. But from a football perspective it's totally boring. It's more interesting seeing who finishes 3rd in the league nowadays.
As a Rangers fan I feel the best chance the other teams had was while we were in the lower leagues and none of them managed to win the league or build a team that was able to compete beyond a season or 2, mostly due to finances vs other leagues which is mostly due to bad leadership at the top of the spfl and sfa but the clubs didn't seem bothered about any reform or investigation when Rangers tried to do it.
I on Football Manager 23 I'm using the Queen's Park, I started following them on youtube for that, but I like it as a team
great team, they used to own Hampton park sold the rights and have used the money to go from amateur to professional and fly up the leagues.
@@DabDabGoose That's why this year they have the professional status, thanks for the information, in the game I won the championship in the first years and now I'm trying to stay in the upper league, barely
@@andreanecchi5930 they have been an amateur team for over 100 years, the only one that was in the Scottish league system at the time they changed, they are the only other team in Glasgow apart form the big two to have won a title, sooner or later in real life they will be in the scottish prem they are a big club in Scottish history, look at their wiki page it's an interesting team.
interesting fact they are the team that developed Andrew Robertson arguably the best current Scottish player.
Realistically without them the Scottish league would be like the welsh or Irish
I would say the same standard as
The League of Ireland but honestly ules wee get a better domestic T.V deal we are heading down that road anyway just at a slower pace than without the Old Firm.
It kills me inside to see the sorry state our League football has now become I am old enough at 41 to remember days when half way decent players played for all
top flight clubs not just
The Old Firm.
Honestly I think our Premier League in Scotland is a complete shambles in many , many ways.
and whats wrong with that?
@@andrewjohnston2850 it’s a shambles and appart from the old firm and maybe hearts the rest of the league is very poor quality and wouldn’t get any sort of tv deal without them
@@joshnugent2167 clubs would just have to live within their means then, and lets not forget all the tv money and support didnt stop 2 of the 3 clubs you mention going bust, i for 1 would accept a lower standard league for a competitve 1
Someone need a Diego Simeone in one of these clubs.
Look at how he transformed Atleti and challenges the big Two and even managed to win 2 league titles
I think more people need to support teams that aren't Celtic and Rangers. I think social media and channels like this one advertise the other teams well.
Unpopular opinion, but I'd like to see the two Dundee teams join together and create a club I'd call Dundee Saltire. It'd bring another big team in the SPL and challenge the Old Firm stranglehold.
Hibernian supporter here. Scottish football doesn't have a huge demand for other clubs. Everyone pretty much supports Rangers or Celtic. That's why they have 50,000+ capacity and the rest have 20,000 at best.
Keep hearing how the league would be more competitive with the Glasgow clubs away, as true as it may be, the standard would drop massively though and it would turn identical to the Welsh and Irish leagues. They wouldn't attract decent players either as a lot of players only come to teams in the Scottish premiership to play against Rangers and Celtic and also broadcasters wouldn't want anything to do with the league.
They are not attracting decent players now & I included both
Old Firm clubs in this statement.
I can remember a time we had a vastly superior level of player than we have in our Premier League now
I can remember clubs like Motherwell , Aberdeen , Hibernian, Hearts & Dundee United all having far superior players than they have now & The Old Firm could attract a level of player such as Gazza , Laudrup , Di Canio & Larsson that stand of player in Scotland just dose not exist in Scotland now
The Old Firm loses players to clubs now they would not of thought about going to in the past because the wages are better.
Being an outsider (American) the argument about ticket prices fascinates me...our local team here (One Knox Sporting Club shoutout to our Glaswegian manager) tickets are a minimum 20$ and the nicest seats are near 50$ american and no one thinks that is ridiculous in the slightest. This is a lower level team. I guess we just accept spending 100$ on a ticket is no big deal. For our Local University american football team, Tennessee Vols, I saw people paying 1000$ a ticket for certain games.
The positive impact poll , many people don’t like either of the big 2 for various reasons so will simply be biased and say no the answer is yes as the reality is Scottish football is finished without them without them the rest of the clubs can kiss goodbye to multiple games on tv a season and playing in a stadium like Hampden with a capacity of 50,000
I enjoy some Scottish football occasionally but it’s my (English) side of the border and it’s in the Lowland League. Even here though they have managed to get OF B teams in and the Jam Tots. To be honest though the level I am watching here is so far removed from Celtic and Rangers that whatever they do or don’t do has no effect whatsoever at this level. Not sure if any money trickles down this low (I’ve certainly not seen any evidence) but if it did do it would amount to a shallow puddle on a very hot day.
I'm sure the big "killie fan" you interviewed is also a celtic fan, I'm sure I've seen him in a celtic video years ago. If it's not him it defo looks like him. Fair play for supporting two premier league teams I suppose 🤔
from south of the border. would making Scotland have two Professional leagues with the premier league being combined with the championship and League 1 and 2 would become one league to become the second tier wouldn’t that actually be better for scottish football?
The teams should aim for the highest common denominator not the lowest. The old firm is not a negative.
The issue is Scotland has too small a population to support bigger clubs.
I am an Aussie I presume that the third and 4th biggest clubs would be Hibs and Hearts as they come from the second biggest city in Scotland and so on.
They aren't happy with aberdeen as they only get 2k which is the same as everyone else when they used to get 3 or 4 I belive. We don't treat any away team any different they are all the same. The same allocation is offered to everyone yes some don't fill it but everyone had the same availability at Pittodrie for travelling support. Think others should follow suit
With the Celtic and Rangers away stand issues, I would give them a maximum of 2 stands. Hearts only give them half of the Georgie stand but give Hibs the full stand.
Hearts fan 🇱🇻
Games against them being good money to the club from ticket sales and tv but I hate the English media bias and how they win everything
What?
As bad as the Sky Sports deal is, without the Old Firm, nobody would pay the league anywhere near that. Nobody would even want to pay for it. You wouldn't even get a 10th of it.
So the quality would go even further down the pan.
The quality would drop yes but competitive and entertainment is better than quality and boring
just noticed youve got a loch ness shirt in the backround 😭why
Problem I have is people from Falkirk,dunfermline,perth,ayr,kilmarnock and basically every town and city in Scotland that support Celtic and rangers over there local teams
Celtic and rangers will always have the biggest support in Scotland but even in half of the non Glasgow based fans supported there local teams would make a big difference to Scottish football and still rangers and celtic would be the most supported without those fans
Why dont non old firm teams look at Stockport County how they have attracted fans despite being in close proximity of the 2 big Manchester clubs. Stockport have being averaging 8500 fans this season in the forth tier of English football. Motherwell have a similar proximity to the Old Firm clubs they could average 5900 fans that figure is inflated when they play the old firm.
There dominance makes Scottish football so boring. Added with broadcasters constantly picking matches that involve the old firm, how are other clubs supposed to compete and gain revenue. Also the leagues in Scotland need reconstructing to make it more competitive which would maybe allow for more broadcasters to take interest to allow a cash injection for non old firm clubs.
The fact that apart from Rangers fluke Europa league run which was genuinely exciting for Scottish Football, both tradtionally do absolutely terrible in Europe which just makes the whole thing a joke.
How can football be diverse with a top 2 team system?.
More people need to stray away from the old firm and start appreciating your local clubs. The only way this will change is when people decide to invest in their local clubs.
At the end of the day it's a considerable ask from anyone to take time out of their lives to watch a football match in the flesh, but local teams offer great value for money and a proper sense of investing where you live.
Guys like Sam remind us that lower league football is true football and not the corporate money invested shite most of football has become.
Get involved in your local community and support your local teams. You can still follow the old firm as a side hustle.
Surely if Celtic and Rangers left the Scottish League pyramid, you'd get a competitive leagie rather than 2 teams disappearing over the horizon and well clear of the rest. You could actually start the season without KNOWING if you named 2 teams, one of them would win the league.
In England last season Man City and Liverpool were better than the rest (and also very prominent in European football). At the start of last season you could have guessed the top four PL teams would be ManC, Liverpool, Chelsea & ManU and you'd be confident of getting at least 3 of the top 4.
Yet as I type this on 30.01.23 the current top 4 are: Arsenal, ManC, Newcastle and ManU whilst Liverpool and Chelsea lay
9th and 10th in the league table. Teams like Brighton and Fulham are 6th & 7th. So at least there is SOME element of unpredictability in English football.
It can't be good for any sport if you could even contemplate 40 years where only 2 teams have ended up as Champions (and you were speculating on this going on for 100 years!!).
At least in England Blackburn and Leicester City have won the PL in addition to regular suspects like ManU, ManC, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal. And who'd bet against Newcastle getting amongst it over the next 3 or 4 years, so that would be EIGHT different clubs. And you could imagine a well-funded and managed Leeds being up there to challenge and even the chimera that is Spurs.
Last season, in the Cup, 2nd tier Middlesbrough beat ManU away then Spurs at home before losing to Chelsea in the next round.
Big money from TV doesn't flow to the English clubs because of the size of the ENGLISH TV market but because of the WORLD TV market. The game is attractive to people in the USA, Thailand, Japan, China etc because it is COMPETITIVE. Yes, ManC and Liverpool have been successful over the last few years but other teams have also been successful and still others wait in the wings to take over.
Remember at the start of this season where Brighton & Brentford both stuffed ManU in short order? And Brighton had now beaten Liverpool twice in a few weeks (the 3-0 in the league being a total demolition whilst yesterday's FACup tie was a closer last-minute affair). Imagine a world where Celtic could be heavily defeated in the league one week by Ross County and the next week by Kilmarnock!
If it takes an all-time great manager like Sir Alex Ferguson to wake up Aberdeen and take them to League, Cup & European glory, it might be a very long wait for anyone to repeat the exercise.
Sport needs competition or it becomes a procession.
The effect they have is overall negative. ALL the other clubs be it hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen, Dundee united etc etc lose TV coverage even the Dundee derby wasnt televised. Its sad but unfortunately damaging to all other Scottish teams as none of them have a chance in winning the league and therefore champions leagues eytc isnt an option, it is sad. Another issue is people not opting to support their local teams
The vast majority of these two clubs support is full of glory hunters if a third force was to emerge their stands wouldn't be half as full as we seen when aberdeen emerged.
Too many Hibs players have disappeared over to the old firm this century. Miller , Latapy , Brown , Riordan , (Hibs fans could add on some more I bet). Who was the last young prospect at Celtic or Rangers to join another Scottish side ?
Celtic loaned a couple of players to Aberdeen and then the dons got upset about having “too many” Celtic players
Hopefully Ross County and Inverness progress in the Scottish Cup, and meet in the draw. Then You can get to the Highland Derby.
If Celtic & Rangers were in the premier league how do you think they would go? With all the TV money could they challenge for the league eventually…🤷♂️ love to see a video on that
If only they buggered off
Not nearly as good as their glory-hunting fans would have you believe 🤣
Liverpool one title in 33 years Man U going 10 without a title and arsenal trying to get their first in 19 years. Somehow I don’t think Celtic or rangers would be challenging for the pl title lol, probably fighting relegation like West Ham and Everton just now.
@@labos7250 Exactly! celtic & Rangers fans think big money equates to titles or challenging for titles. The facts say otherwise.
@@wallycustard1281 got to be smart with money in Englands premier league. Rangers and Celtic are no bigger than West Ham or Everton so I don’t see how the would win a title in England. Two big fish in a small pond up there and would be just anothe two average teams in England
I think the league be lot more open if celtic and rangers wasant in it and say they went to England but then no TV company pay clubs
Most annoying question in Scottish football is if you had choose either of the old firm teams who would you choose…
An absolute myth that English people think is a real thing
a league format change would be nice easier said than done but having a 20 team prem would be nice one day
as an older fan I remember the old league 1 - 2 etc, the problem is you still have the same 2 at the top and lower teams getting relegated every season the teams from 5 to 15 would just be plodding along with nothing to play for except maybe a good cup run
Mainly the impact is in the back of the net. 😧
We need a much bigger top league to enable the other clubs to get closer to Rangers and Celtic. Unfortunately I cannot see it ever happening because the Boards of the smaller teams are too shortsighted, and would not want to miss out on the cash generated from the 3 or 4 home games against the arse cheeks.
The reason England have such a big league is because they have Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle, Chelsea, Aston Villa, Man City, Leeds Utd, West Ham, Forest, Everton etc.
Who wants to pay to watch St Mirren vs Motherwell?
The reason Rangers hate Aberdeen so much is the scummy challenge on Ian Durant that they sang about for years after.
Rangers got to the Europa League final against teams worth hundreds of millions, its not always about the money, obviously it's a huge factor but it's down to the players and the manager at the end of the day
nature of cup competitions, but outside of Leipzig, Rangers were richer then the teams they faced in the knockouts like Braga and Red Star, Scotland does have a big problem with the Brexit visa issue requiring non European players to be fledged internationals which makes it hard to sign anyone from South America though.
You can have teams like Cardiff getting to the FA cup final. But are they ever going to win the premier league? No. It's a defunct argument.
@@itellyouwhy6957 maybe if they luck out with some slave owning Arab country owners lol.
That said given Welsh lack of interest in the game compared to Scotland I doubt they would even be able to produce a championship level team out of their own league if they didn't join the English game.
The dortmund and Leipzig games were very impressive for a Scottish team to beat fair enough, but the financial gap between Rangers and those teams are nowhere near as big as Rangers and every other Scottish team bar Celtic
@@conner1260 Dortmund wage budget is 111 million pounds a season, Rangers is 26 million, next highest scottish prem team other then the big two is Aberdeen on 3.9 million pounds, which for comparison is the same as MK dons in League 1.
Came to follow the SPFL due to #angeball Can’t see how the Old Firm will regularly succeed in Europe if they only have 4-6 competitive games a season. A billionaire with a Brentford style plan could change the whole comp
hibs,hearts and aberdeen need to be consistantly beating the other teams before anything changes. they need to be top 6 every season
This is just a thought is Aberdeen the last team to win the premiership apart from rangers or Celtic?? Under fergie that's pretty grim stat
Correct!
@@FootyAdventures that's crazy my step dad was a rangers fan so I've also had a soft spot for them, it's a shame I like you're idea 💡 we need some rich oil 🪔 money 💰 to shake the league up but again Chelsea are disgusting what there doing inflating the market for the rest of us I'm glad we walked away from mudryk
Both positive and negative. Yes they are both great clubs and have performed well over the years in Europe increasing the stature of Scottish football. However the lower clubs suffer as people can easy just support one of the old firm and not support the local teams and this impact greatly on lower league clubs I support Greenock Morton and don't understand not supporting your local team but everyone is different. The behaviour of the small minority of fans and the whole religious element which has always been bitter and never goes away is also a negative.
Couldnt agree more. I support Montrose, and the town has a mix of fans supporting Aberdeen, Dundee United, Celtic and rangers. Though a lot of these fans do go to the Mo games, but it will be worse in Greenock with the OF being nearby
would argue about performed well in Europe over the years, Aberdeen have the same amount of trophies than celtic , old rangers and new rangers put together
Most other club stadiums never fill there stadiums or unless it's a cup game at Hampden or a Derby.
Don't get me wrong I would love to see other clubs challenge for the league cause when we screw up no one will stop celtic so you can't rely on other teams to stop them.
You're damn right
The only reason you fill your stadiums is because you know there's a 50 percent chance you're going to win at least one trophy a season we all seen how big a support celtic and rangers had when they were pish your stadiums were empty.
I dont think theres a specifically positive impact just because the other clubs do absolutely nothing with the money. It would be a shame for so many Scottish fans to be forced to travel to England just to watch their biggest clubs, but I dont think it adds lots of money to the other clubs and as a Celtic fan I do think it would be quite embarrassing to have your stands so dramatically drowned out whenever they play hosts.
It would be more interesting for every other club's fans if they did leave. Going to England would be disappointing for Celtic and Rangers as I think itd take about 10 years to become a fixture but it might still be interesting.
While I can absolutely understand the point of view of smaller clubs, especially those who at times see their talents move to Rangers or Celtic for peanuts... I also think a lot of it is self-inflicted. Take Killie - Rangers for example: 8000 to 9000 empty seats! Is that Rangers' fault ? At no point am I saying these seats should just be sold to either Celtic or Rangers, clubs do with them what they want of course. But how do you justify that ?
9:17 - Last time it was done consistently, it took THE GREATEST MANAGER THAT HAS EVER LIVED to do it. That's all you need! Just find another Sir Alex Ferguson and then MAYBE you can break the old firm duopoly!
Anybody who looked like they were getting even close to developing a side that could challenge wouldn't stick around long enough to complete the job these days. They'd be taken by one of the bigger boys, as would any of the better players. Nobody, in England or Scotland, gets time to build a challenge any more because the elements that are going into building it are just bought by richer clubs. The only way to break into the elite's little club now is with a battering-ram of cash - which clubs then get criticised for.
Now ask these fans if they think their clubs have a negative impact on the smaller clubs in their areas. Bottom line is there's always a bigger fish.
Aberdeen , hibs 99% if they have to do choose will prefer Celtic , hearts with a fair few Killie will go rangers Dundee Utd fans more likely to be more for Celtic where as Dundee fans more likely rangers … as for the allocation situation end of the day turn up and support your “local team” and your club wouldn’t bow down to the big 2 and is it really going to make a difference to a result weather there’s 500 or 4,000 Celtic or rangers fans ? As either way the big 2 should win regardless no excuses
The problem is not that Celtic/Rangers always win the league. It's that they both have won every game against the other sides since the World Cup. Example 8th March. Hearts and Hibs took the lead against Celtic & Rangers and neither could even aspire to a draw. But at least it's better than being PSG who have no rivals at all and it hurts them in Europe.
Negatives and positives but mainly negatives for me, their stranglehold on scottish football is ultimately a bad thing for our game imo and detracts people and sponsors from outside our game from watching and investing as they know the league will be won by one of two clubs, there needs to be a complete restructure of our game and league, firstly I think an 18 or 20 team top league would be a positive step as it means hearts, hibs or aberdeen would only have to go to Glasgow twice which if they could stay consistent against all the other teams it would give other teams more of a chance I feel.
Pains me to say but there is only one club with a sensible model to even rival the OF and its hearts
I think rival is a bit of a stretch personally but yes they are the third force in terms of what is on the pitch at this time.
But historically Aberdeen have been the biggest challengers to
The Old Firm..
Bit of a worry when you watch say watch Motherwell v rangers and there are so many empty seats ,
yeah, celtic and rangers bring stuff to the league but instead of supporting a team near them people from the highlands, aberdeen, edinburgh, all over go to support them instead of a proper club
See when rangers, hearts and Hibs were all out the league what did Aberdeen do? Finish 10th and couldn't get second off Motherwell? At 6 mins is that the big skinny boy that called Morelos fat? Killie have lost so much money because of cutting away allocation and can't even give the tickets away
Fkn disgrace Aberdeen are.
Celtic and rangers and spfl should work a deal to allow them to England and then Celtic and rangers should but 10 percent of there league winnings to the spfl obviously this would be very helpful if Celtic n rangers got to the prem. a mean pitches youth development and more would benefit from this. with the current situation with Celtic and rangers getting extra tickets only way to fix this is go support your team and not moan about it if not then you should sell the tickets
When the new Aberdeen stadium eventually happens (if it ever happens), if it was up to me I would restrict the away section to around 700 and put them in the corner. We only get 700-800 tickets at Ibrox / Parkhead and only 600 at Tynecastle the other night. Treat their fans exactly how they treat us.
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Not a very good business decision for Aberdeen if that happens. You will need to give the old firm a huge away allocation as Aberdeen no where near sells out
@@lgs4692 the new stadium is only going to have a capacity of 16,000. We'll be able to mostly sell it out to our own fans
@@pauldonaldson6067 fair enough
Would be too much hassle police wise adding Celtic and rangers to the English structure it will never happen. Look at the Sunderland friendly with Tommy Robinson game a few years ago imagine that every week especially in the lower leagues with millwall Birmingham Cardiff qpr type teams. Any team would be a nightmare Celtic and rangers would bring giant crowds to tiny stadiums it would be a complete disaster
It no teams fault for another team’s failures rangers haven’t built there squad by spending most have been by free transfer or younger players like morelos aribo Kamara Jack sakala etc the list goes on yes football runs on money but it’s you you spend your money if more teams spent wisely bought young and progressed those players then they would be able to grow a squad sell for bigger and have more to invest.
Rangers and Celtic are both good teams (rangers the better) and do a lot of good for the game an example is the further one gets in Europe the more money uefa pay into the Scottish as a dividends btw most prem club benefited by 600k+ due to rangers run last season.
Sadly i think the league would be less respected if rangers and Celtic weren’t present. Although rangers did make a mockery of themselves during their CL campaign while Celtic were impressive at times. I think I support that Devlin could break in, particularly as an energetic option off the bench.
It isn't respected now.
@@sandersson2813aye, not at all, but note I said ‘less’ 😂
RFC Worst Team in CL ever conceded the fastest hatrick in UCL history.
Rangers made a European final the season before, have a slightly better memory than six months. 😂
@@TruthTeller00 one swallow doesn't make a summer and all that was good will was wiped from the memory after this years capitulation.
People remember Rangers having the worst group stage record in CL history, not a second tier final.
Celtic are going from strength to strength,Rangurs are still a new club trying to get back to turning over bigger profits.
The sad part is that all the other clubs benefitted and could have continued to benefit when Rangurs went down the leagues.
Either every single penny goes back into investing into said clubs or they find a billionaire with a soft soft spot for an underdog story.
All clubs are capable of going bust or thriving,it’s all down to the mangement of these clubs.
But just like Celtic the cream of the crop always leave for the “bigger clubs”.
That’s why Celtic struggle to compete in Europe BUT never say never 😂.
After all someone’s gotta win and more have to lose.
Always blame rangers and Celtic, but without them there’s no sky money, very little coverage, all the stadiums they visit would be empty as usual. No European money hand outs as other teams aren’t good enough, and basically would be as popular as the welsh league. It’s not the big twos fault that hibs hearts Aberdeen and every team below can’t fill a stadium week in week out
Spfl needs to get a big budget increase or something idk what but something to make the top 5 fight not just celtic go 9 clear then win every year and rangers second
Let’s be honest the spl without the of would be no better than the Welsh /norn iron leagues
I would say it's heading to
the same standard as
The League of Ireland with or without The Old Firm just with
The Old Firm at a slower speed but it's been heading that since 2009 in my view the standard has got less with every passing season in comparison to where it used to be.
That Aberdeen fan has a cheek, after being taken to the cleaners by a 6th tier Club