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- Hurrem Never Betrayed Me " SULTAN SULEIMAN GOES MAD "
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Hürrem gets prepared for a bloody play!
As the time passing makes Suleiman feel more lonely, Hürrem gets in search of revenge with her sharpened rage. In the meantime, Rüstem has become the Grand Vizier thanks to the power he gets from Hürrem and Mihrimah and the politics he played. He gets prepared for a bloody play with Hürrem.
High winds between Selim and Bayezid...
The princes gather in the capital for Cihangir's sword girding ceremony. High winds bluster among the brothers who come together after years, especially between Selim and Bayezid. The fact that Mustafa has been welcomed effusively by the janissaries resonates with the palace. Rüstem doesn't hesitate to use this against the prince.
Meanwhile, a Venetian odalisque who has been presented as a gift to the palace draws attention with her beauty. This woman will change not only hers but also the destiny of the royal family.
At the age of 26, when he ascended to the throne, Sultan Suleiman aimed to build an empire more powerful than Alexander the Great and to render the Ottomans invincible. Throughout his 46-year reign, he became the greatest warrior and ruler of both East and West.
The young Suleiman received news of his succession to the throne during a hunting party in 1520. Unaware that he would be ruling a reign beyond his dreams, he left behind his wife son and took to the road with his close friend and companion Pargali Ibrahim to reach the Topkapi Palace in Istanbul. As they started their journey overland, an Ottoman ship set sail from Crimea in the Black Sea, bringing female slaves as gifts for the Ottoman palace… On this ship was Alexandra La Rossa, the daughter of a Ukrainian Orthodox minister, taken away from her family and sold to the Crimean palace. She had no idea that she would become Hurrem, wife of Sultan Suleiman and mother of princes, ruling the empire with him through bloodshed and intrigue.
As Sultan Suleiman conquered the world, his great passion for Hurrem would clash with his love for and trust in his closest friend and advisor, Grand Vizier Pargali Ibrahim, all set against the backdrop of the tension between Christian Europe and the Ottoman Empire in the 16th century.
Cast: Halit Ergenç, Nebahat Çehre, Meryem Uzerli, Okan Yalabık, Nur Aysan, Selma Ergeç, Sema Keçik, Filiz Ahmet, Selim Bayraktar, Selen Öztürk, Nihan Büyükağaç, Burcu Tuna, Merve Oflaz, Arif Erkin, Ali Uyandıran, Alp Öyken, Murat Tüzün, Doğan Turan, Gökhan Çelebi, Yüksel Ünal.
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He did finally realise that Fatima was a real witch!!
Telling Suleiman "that Hurrem deserved everything that came to her, and only Hurrem burning in hell would redeem her." That really started to piss off Suleiman, that is why Suleiman told Fatima "that he knew that Hurrem was no angel, but she had the one thing none of you every had, loyalty, absolute loyalty!" He the kicked her out of the palace permanently.
"So this is the reason of all the slaughter. Ibrahim. Hatice. Mustafa. Chiangir"
What about Mehmet, Fatma; His death is just as important. He was an inoccent person.
As for those mentioned above. Ibrahim brought everything he got on himself by his arrogance, greed and ambition.
Hatice...she brought her own downfall because she couldn't let go of the past and see that she can have a future.
Mustafa...he might have been difficult to get along with sometimes, but he was a fine lad and he would have made a great sultan. Certainly better than Selim. But he forgot one very iportant lesson: that Suleiman is his sultan first. Father second
I agree with everything in your reply but I beg to differ in your analysis of Mustapha and Selim ll. Don't forget Selim was the most experienced of ALL Ottoman shehazades, trained by the best Ottoman sultan. He didn't physically lead in any war but his plan and administration was superb. He reigned for eight year, compare his legacy with others. Mustapha had zero training and loads of IOU to loads of people.
@@kayodewa in that case, please accept my apology for the previous misinformation.
I admit that I am biased towards Selim. His show version at least
@@kayodewa While I think that Selim II historical was better ruler than Suleiman ( unpopular opinion), Mustafa historical do a lot of feats( when Suleiman deny help him to deal with Georgians who cause several deaths of governors of his province and people of Amasya surely because he want to destroy his popularity he suceed against them , he improve the life of common people who were exhausted off too much conquests useless sometimes by Suleiman ,so no he had not zero training and he was very experienced sehzade). And Suleiman was not the best Sultan Ottoman ( Mehmed I , Selim I who was he who heyday craftsman of Ottoman Empire, etc were better than him...). Suleiman is even considered by the crafstman of the downfall of Empire Ottoman, because he didn't follow the plan of his father to make a sort of Canal of Suezin order to prevent the European powers from taking them by surprise, instead he spent too much money on conquests which impoverished and weakened the populatio, Selim try to repar the mistakes of his father but no matter he had good plan with Sokollu it was not enought. If you want I can share my source who told that.
@@nesiacha3659 If you say so and please do share
@@kayodewa Okay so on Mustafa and Suleiman :
Zahid Atçil - Why Did Süleyman the Magnificent Execute His Son Şehzade Mustafa i
Öztuna - Kanuni Sultan Süleyman
Imber - The Ottoman Empire 1300-1650
And don't forger the envoy report. The envoy Bassano told around 1540 that the sehzade Mustafa had "a most wonderful and glorious court, no less than that of his father" and that "his mother, who was with him, instructs him in how to make himself loved by the people". when Mustafa was thirty eight years old, Navagero wrote, "It is impossible to describe how much he is loved and desired by all as successor to the throne." And don't forget some french envoy like Guillaume Postel who praised him and feared him.
Now for Selim II:
P. Kayaalp - The Empress Nurbanu and Ottoman Politics in the Sixteenth Century
U. Dakic, Y. Öztuna, S. Faroqhi, D. A. Howard
P.S: I forget Halil İnalcık, sorry...
Finally Suleiman sees the truth. Only valide hurrem sultan, his wife, truly loves him and did everything to keep him on throne.
And who tired to dethrone him. He was delusional
@@infinite2884 she never tried that, if you mean mahidevran then yes.
LoL 😂no one tried to dethrone him ever .. if mustafa ever tried he would definitely succeed but he didn't try once.
@@barkaatahmed8137 mahidevran tried
@@barkaatahmed8137Mustafa didn't try directly, his subordinates, mother and allies did plan to overthrow Suleiman and put Mustafa on the throne.
All this years later and for some reason *all* of Suleiman's sisters were totally happy to disregard all of Ibrahim's scuzzy, ambitious behavior and act like his execution was some cold-blooded murder. Mustafa I understand having some rage about; without Mahidevran and Ibrahim raising him to blame all of his childhood misfortune (read; his MOTHER's misfortunes) on Hurrem. Hatice killed herself after being insane for years, and Cihangir effectively did the same by refusing his medication in his grief (and let's not forget Fatma openly stated his death was somehow penance for Mustafa's! Like, she obviously had contempt for all of Hurrem's children and saw them as disposable and then had the gall to cry at his funeral).
What people don't understand is that before Hurrem and Sulieman, the Sultans had always had favorites or special women. Suleiman's mother was the favored consort of his father Selim. But no one had ever had a wife as Sultan, certainly not a wife so favored or loved as Hurrem. It made his entire family question his judgement many times. It made Hurrem the victim many times on the show. In real life she did have people that didn't like her but it wasn't this dramatic lol. The first people to ever do something, or commit an act no one understands, will always be maligned or questioned for their judgement. People love to judge, make snide and hateful comments when they don't understand something.
I agree with everything in your comment, except the fact that Ayse (Beyhan and Sha Hubban's mother) was Selim l favourite not Hafsa.
@@kayodewa thank you for the correction.
Yeah in real life though it was either Mustafa was going to die or her kids so I can't blame someone from wanting to save their kids weather she had something to do with his death or it was his own doing. He would have killed them all except maybe his sister would have lived but that's iffy.
"Did you tried to kill Hurrem?"
"Does it matter? You made up your mind anyway."
"Well did you?"
"...Yeah."
How she tries to manipulate him first and then acts like a victim after she admited she is guilty. Just like Mahidevran: Oh on, am I punished for my actions? :( "
So did hurrem, when Suleiman asked her if she had any hand in killing of Mustafa, yes or no, she neither said yes nor no, instead she went on how magnificent sultan Suleiman is, how everything in the world belongs to him, how their breaths are because of his mercy, she even went on saying that leaves cannot fall off the trees if he doesn't want it and described herself as his mere shadow who wants whatever Suleiman wants but if he's looking for innocense then it's nowhere to be found in palace. She also manipulated Suleiman with words and tried to imply that whatever happened is because of his will as he's the controller and all of them are his subjects and even if she did something, she should not be blamed for it as she just acted on what Suleiman wanted.
@@jahan9621 I kinda saw that as the writers dancing around the topic if she rlly caused his death or not, bcs even historians are not sure
they do this a lot in the show when they want touch on topic based on real history, that we dont know much about... usually they make it into some kind of "sultan Suleiman is so mighty and amazing" statement
@@adelkaizbest2038 yeah but I'm not speaking in context of history, I'm just judging each character the way it was portrayed in the series and even if we do take a look at history, it's highly indicated that hurrem did had a hand in execution of Mustafa while mahidevran had nothing to do with Mehmet's death(unlike it's showed in the drama). What I don't like about hurrem is that she always manipulated Suleiman with her cunning words and never admitted to anything she did behind his back, she always wanted his happiness connected through her and her children, not by other members of his family and was successfully able to apart him from all other people he loved before her and left Suleiman with nobody but her. And portrayed herself as the only person loyal to him. No one was innocent but at least they were stuck to their actions and never denied nor tried to justify their acts falsely
@@jahan9621 Hurrem did tell him the truth ...that HE is the Sultan and he was the one who gave the order for Mustafa's death . He was a threat to Suleiman's power so he had to go...this was not something Hurrem decided or anyone else for Suleiman to put the blame on. She was no angel but Suleiman can't blame her if she wanted what he wanted too. She said flat out that he needs to stop looking for innocents in that palace because a system that is based on power for survival ensures there aren't any. She just didn't tell him the truth YOU wanted...but again Suleiman IS the Sultan so why should she she allow him to scapegoat her for his decisions as the Sultan or father ?
@@jahan9621 no she said you are the shadow of allah on this earth and i am a shadow of you i have only ever wanted what you have wanted. basically telling him that they both had a part in it and share in the responsibility of it. it was a smart answer because he loved to find scape goats for his actions.
Let's face the truth! Suleyman was very afraid of Mustafa because he was more loved by the army and the population. He was afraid that at any time Mustafa could gather an army and overthrow him. A word from Mustafa was enough. Suleyman condemned Mustafa to death out of envy and jealousy. Indeed, Hurem and Rustem contributed to such a thing. Let's imagine that Hurem would have managed to kill Mustafa. And Mehmed her son would have reached the throne. What do you think would have happened? Sooner or later Mehmed would have sentenced all his brothers to death. Mehmed would have had an ambitious wife who was eager for power. This is exactly what happened between Selim and Bayazid. Selim has Nurbanu who was as ambitious as Hurem.
even though ive always been on hurrem's side. i really like this scene. fatma is really brave. my favourite of his sisters.
Lol no she's cruelest sister
I was like what did he just say? were we watching a different series@@asjadelic4695
The only thing I take from this, is that Hurrem wins again. 💕
Neither Süleyman nor Fatma truly *get* Hürrem. He idealises her loyalty and not her as a person and she just sees her as a cartoon villain.
Because this a drama TV show , there needs to be drama not much facts.
There is data of people harming Hurram and thinking she was a witch because he made her his wife.
But there is also evidence that his mother got along well with Hurram.
The fall of his son was more in fault with his own mother and others trying to bring him to power early.
The system that was built made them all sociopaths.
The idea of marriage to one woman was wrong. Killing a second born son was okay so he could not raise to power. Kidnapping teen girls, making them slaves and brainwashing them into believing prostitution was a great opportunity was normal and legal. Kidnapping little boys and cutting off their male parts so they could serve in the haram was normal and legal.
In 600 years of power think about how many were killed, raped, mutilated,robbed of their lands and belongings while claiming 🤮to be the servants of God.
Evil wear’s beautiful clothes to lure you into temptation. Kings and Queens wear the most beautiful clothes and they do the most evil.
Excuse me but what is it that makes one idealise someone or love someone the way Suleiman and Hurrem did eachother? Certainly it is someone's qualities that make him/her loveable. Hurrem had one such quality and that was her complete loyalty to Suleiman.
@@saleha900 That is very complicated.
No matter you lot say, Fatma had guts. She and Sah were worthy opponents. I wish Fatma didn’t curtsy though.
Well said Suleiman about valide sultan to fatma
It is obvious that in this story, it would be unfair if we blame someone more than onother ( ex Mahidevran and Hurrem). All they did mistakes and crimes and all they found the suitable punishment. Mihrimah was punished by losing her mother, her husband, her siblings and I am sure that she understood in the end that the things wouldn't be worse if Mustafa would acsend the throne. Selim was sentenced to live in regrets. Suleiman lost Hurrem in the end and he died away from his children. Hurrem and Mahivevran also received their punishment but the God felt sorry for their. For example Hurrem lost Chihangir but she died and she didn't see the death of Beyazed or Selim because it is obvious that if not Suleiman did not kill him when someone of her children would ascend the throne he would kill the other one. In the end, Mahidevran lost his son and his grandson but God make her the best favour. Thanks to him she wasn't part of the Suleiman's family and she understood that Suleiman was never in loved with her. Thanks to God she understood the true.
What truth did we watch the same show ? mahidevrans own obsession with power and wealth drove her to influence her son the wrong way also fratricide was a tradition prior to them both what mahi did to hurrem was unreal and so u know its documented in real history that hurrem had nothing to do with mustfas death and that MAHI treated her very badly
2:46 what about secret divan room?
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
When it comes to Mustafa he remembers
But for hureemm he forgets😂
That will not throw him away from throne. Infact will help him
What? 😂
And she was responsible of half of your pain.
Şahane bir oyun. Bu kısımını seviyorum
one question was Fatma, Suleiman's sister, because she just popped up out of nowhere.
Yes the last sister, she lost by valide sultan
Fatma hatun was the last. Now valide sultan will have peace in palace with Suleiman. Finally after 130 episodes she can calm and chill.
Long live valide hurrem sultan. The winner. She won everyone one by one and have the ultimate victory!
sadly that won't be the case. For the moment she ran out of enemies to fight, she got ill.
Gods, the poor woman can't find some rest;😂😂
@@user-ob4sq6fi3s eh still she's peaceful and calm knowing no one tries to end her
@@DimSK. fair enough, mate
No as soon as all his relatives left Suleiman became the enemy until a shortwhile before she died.
@@kayodewa what
Mustafa died because of the ambition and greed he had thanks to his mother constantly filling his head with delusions of grandeur and power.
Suleiman knew Hurrem was no saint, he knew that she had to do things to survive in the harem. What separates her from the others is that she never schemed to harm Suleiman or to kill him so her own son can be Sultan and she becomes Valide Sultana. His own sisters supported his wayward son and plot against him for power so they could push Hurrem far away from the empire or just to kill her.
Hurrem even made it clear that she doesn’t want the title of Valide Sultana, because that would mean her husband and king would be gone. She preferred to not outlive Suleiman and only did everything to protect her children and ensure that once her and Suleiman croaked, they would be well cared for and in power
You're so right in your analysis of the show. Hureem had a survivor instinct of a mother and wife. She knew that if she got her priorities right, everything big and small would fall into place for her Suleyman and her children. That's the difference between her and everybody in the palace and that's how she won against them ... she focused in her dealings with her enemies. She's never afraid of admitting her own wrong doings and never blamed anyone for her own shortcomings and evil deeds as well as accepting the consequences. She knew she's not an angel and brave to do what it took to survive to protect Suleyman and her children. And she concentrated on bringing up her children appropriately as princes and princess respecting their father, the ultimate ruler of the Ottoman empire ....
Finally some have courage and bravery to say the naked truth in Suleiman's face... Bravo Fatma! 👏 Suleiman gets his punishment on this world with his illness!
Suleiman is true about hurrem.
Who was this sister of Suleyman, fatma to judge Hureem or anyone else .... don't think that fatma had the right to judge and kill. She wasn't brave but arrogant because she was caught or exposed or cornered .... actually she's just plain evil and devious. It's not her right to judge and kill Hureem or anyone else however bad they were.
Consider that she listened to 5he divan and sent his news to his enmies
Well
Gatma sultan true words that totally happens
Why are you doing that? You are hurrem sultan fan like me. Also why did you return..
@@DimSK. she is shossshoo loocooo, took Sarah’s account
Shossshooo loocoooo! Hurrem never betrayed Suleiman shossshoo locoooo! She listened to Divan meetings to prottect Suleiman and her sons! She never sent news to enemiies! Try better
Hi I am ShossshoLocoooo! I took Sarah’s account! I know Hurrem never betrayed Suleiman. She listened to Divan to prottect Suleiman and her sons and to know their enmies! She never sent news to enmies. I am BOTT!
She was exiled for the secret room. And when did she ever send news to his enemies?
You were wrong sultan. you were blinded by the tactics of hurremn and did not have enough mind to find the truth. you never punish the hurrem, mahirma, selim and your son in law for scheming against prince Mustafa even you heard the confession by hurrem
He exiled Hürrem multiple times and was emotionally abusive to her though
Hurrem did for here childeren nothing more and power
Truth hurts
Neither of them really knew the full truth of who Hürrem was. Fatma sees her as a monster and a 1 dimensional villain whereas Süleyman only values what she did for him. Neither of them see her as a full person.
She never backstabbed me 😂😂😂😂 joke of the century
Wow sulyman forgot what she did to him?
🤣😂
Totalmanipulation skills
Thelast sister of suly have the same fate as others bec of hureem
Hureem never lovedsuly or anyone that's who she is since ep1😂
I think Hurrem would have ended her own sons if they tried to take the throne by removing their father.
And how did u to thank her ?slept with every single concubine u saw
Hürrem never betrayed me
Ofccccc eavesdropping on the council meetings totally doesn't count
Hi shosssho locoooo! Listening council meetings is not betraying! She never went against Suleiman. She listened only Suleiman’s enemiies to prottect him and their sons!
Hurrem never betrayed Suleiman shossshoo locoooo! She listened to Divan meetings to prottect Suleiman and her sons! Cryyyy now!
Gosh I was kidding 😂
That's in the show. In real life, according to history, Suleiman often included her in Divan meetings & relied heavily on her for counsel & also to handle some other delicate political matters herself. Suleiman actually shared power equally with her, a first in Ottoman history.
She did that to protect her kids. Besides he exiled her for that.
Hurrem was an evil . She killed his favourite,tortured her friend , and killed her ex overheard his council meetings .stole seal ,made him to kill mustafa .what she did is acted nicely in front of his face .i don't know what loyality he is talking about .
Karama backfired her very well .non of her children had a legacy like mustafa .
Fatma and Fatima are two different names
What about her lover Leo?
He was never her lover he used to be her fiance before she meet Suliman but they was never lovers and she was never unfaitful to him either
This is also a historu of every women is so troublesome😂
Ibriham and Mustafa were the victims of their own arrogance and hubberace. Chihanger was a casuality of his own innocence and Hatice was a whiney brat so I have no sympathy and she chose to side with cheater so no lose there.
I hate Hurrem
I love her
nobody cares
i hate mahidevran lol
These Suleman's wicked sisters were never bothered abt hurrem's children did any of them ever concerned for hurrem's children before supporting mustufa did they even ask mustufa what will he do to hurrem's children if they support him to become Sultan but after badly defeated by huurem they were playing victim