Michael Laws on New Zealand's Local Government Crisis

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Komentáře • 165

  • @paulo49252
    @paulo49252 Před 4 měsíci +39

    it's easy spending other peoples money. No responsibility, no accountability.

    • @banjopete
      @banjopete Před 4 měsíci +4

      None so generous as those spending others money!

    • @secondchance6603
      @secondchance6603 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Socialism rule Number 1.

  • @kiwicate123
    @kiwicate123 Před 4 měsíci +27

    Never heard anyone else put it so well. Michael, you’ve hit the nail on the head.

  • @lydiascl
    @lydiascl Před 4 měsíci +49

    Rates go up. Services reduce. More consultants. Less efficiency. No KPI. No incentive to be productive. Multiple groups/people doing the same thing.
    More red tape/bureaucracy/applications and approvals process.
    More staff employed from overseas.
    When restructuring happens, middle management stays, productive staff are overworked, "do the bare minimum" staff are kept.. 🤔

    • @subohmcircus
      @subohmcircus Před 4 měsíci +4

      Facts ⬆️

    • @MsBlueRyan
      @MsBlueRyan Před 4 měsíci +7

      It's called Government Failure. We are in big trouble.

    • @barrygeary9362
      @barrygeary9362 Před 4 měsíci

      MAORI WARDS ARE DESIGN TO MAKE LOCAL COUNCILS TO HAVE A MAORI MAJORITY SOME COUNCILS HAVE SIX MAORI COUNCILORS ANSTILL WANT MAORI WARDS WHAT DOES THAT TELL U Co Gov at work wake up Kawerau

    • @secondchance6603
      @secondchance6603 Před 4 měsíci +3

      "do the bare minimum" staff are kept.
      Every month a truck with four workers drive down our street to clear the dirt and muck from the roadside. In 9 years they haven't stopped once to actually do their job and clean them.

    • @kenhorlor5674
      @kenhorlor5674 Před 4 měsíci +10

      Yup, we keep paying more and get less back. Our roads are rubbish, but the council in Christchurch put up 30 kph signs everywhere overnight that are never observed. They're working hard on spending ratepayer money on complete nonsense.

  • @peterschulte9847
    @peterschulte9847 Před 4 měsíci +49

    As an ex councillor you are 100% right.

  • @FinnDelMundoTravel
    @FinnDelMundoTravel Před 4 měsíci +7

    Upper Hutt City Council is dead broke. The current mayor has suffocated our city for over 20 years and will probably be in council chambers until he croaks. One example of the utter incompetence would be the pool upgrade that later turned into a pool extension and almost total rebuild worth 50 million +!!!!!!! It’s fkn infuriating.

  • @ttm2609
    @ttm2609 Před 4 měsíci +12

    Maybe us sheep need to stand up to these incompetent tyrants!!

    • @patneho6684
      @patneho6684 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yes indeed start today...I have 😊

    • @ronaldwarren1267
      @ronaldwarren1267 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@patneho6684I will join you petitions to parliament

  • @OJB42
    @OJB42 Před 4 měsíci +21

    Yes, I agree. They are very wasteful and there seems to be very little accountability.

    • @patriceking9583
      @patriceking9583 Před 4 měsíci

      There is actually zero accountability. I’d love a job where I get over paid to underperform - where do I sign

    • @OJB42
      @OJB42 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@patriceking9583 Anything in local government, apparently. You would do OK at many government ministries as well. The higher up the hierarchy you go, the less you have to do, and the less talent and ability you need.

  • @secondchance6603
    @secondchance6603 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Councilors need to be stopped being paid the massive amount of money they get.

  • @user-wu8mp9ue1g
    @user-wu8mp9ue1g Před 4 měsíci +25

    The Hutt City Council wasted $65 million on a 3.5km bike track which knowone uses and want to increase our rates FFS !!
    REFUSE TO PAY

  • @xjet
    @xjet Před 4 měsíci +19

    Absolutely no entrepreneurs within councils. They don't seek to innovate or think outside the box... they simply seek to maintain the status quo because that is the easiest road to travel. Councils pay their management huge salaries (with golden handshakes) and those managers then hire consultants to do their jobs for them. Pay twice, get inferior results.
    Anyone with real skills, knowledge, expertise, drive, enthusiasm and entrepreneurial ability won't be working for a council -- they'll have a real job.

    • @patriceking9583
      @patriceking9583 Před 4 měsíci

      Sadly that’s true and needs to change. If you’re employed to do a job yet need to hire a third party consultant to do your job fir you then you are ineffective at your job therefore is there any need for that position at all. They’ve effectively made themselves redundant. The rate payers have saved themselves big time straight out the gate either on an ineffective management wage or a consultant fee. Which is it because it shouldn’t be both.

  • @dirkdiggler5637
    @dirkdiggler5637 Před 4 měsíci +12

    Thank you Mr laws, thank you.

  • @Williamottelucas
    @Williamottelucas Před 4 měsíci +9

    We have one councilor - Lee Vandervis - who says "No" quite often. The rest of the councilors vilify, and the local paper ridicules him.

    • @xjet
      @xjet Před 4 měsíci

      Our local media used to be true to the tenets of the Fourth Estate and would investigate the actions of local government. These days however, that media (operated by Stuff) seems to be just a paid propaganda sheet for the council's agendas. So sad the way the media has sold out.

  • @pamelaabsolum2202
    @pamelaabsolum2202 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Well said Michael. Councillors on the gravy train.

  • @michellegilmor7422
    @michellegilmor7422 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hi Michael you are right. Our Thames Coromandel District Council appears beyond repair. Time to scrap it and start again with a more efficient model. Well said and thank you for your accuracy.

  • @johanpotgieter4318
    @johanpotgieter4318 Před 4 měsíci +23

    You nailed it big time on this one.

  • @everythingtrenchlessnz
    @everythingtrenchlessnz Před 4 měsíci +12

    I'm in the construction industry, mostly work on council projects. Every year they add more officers adding more red tape, make us do two day inductions when 2hrs would be ample. H&S ,environmental, cultural, quality, plant inspection, test & tag, traffic management, construct safe, SHE certification, public liaison, archaeologist, the list goes on. The actual job has the least importance to council staff. All they are doing is adding more cost that the contractor adds into the next tender. It's easy to spend other peoples money!!

  • @foggycoast
    @foggycoast Před 4 měsíci +5

    Don't forget the regional councils in this! 300 employees for the ORC. At least they abandoned the waterfront site. Must be the climate emergency... Rates have doubled in 5 years and still going up.

  • @rolytnz
    @rolytnz Před 4 měsíci +15

    Well said. Councils are in trouble because they have squandered rates money from the populace for the last 50+ years and not actually investing back into the infrastructure that they are there to build and maintain. Because of this blatent mismanagement, ratepayers are going to carry the can. Councils need to be 100% transparent with the money they take. Also, no GST on rates. It is neither a good or a service, it is a property tax. Cut the massive middle-management layers of beaureucrats from all councils too and will mean a crazy amount of money saved as well. People who work in councils are not there for the betterment of the localality they manage, they are there to pad themselves in a cushy job making it hard for people who actually want to innovate.

  • @sportysbusiness
    @sportysbusiness Před 4 měsíci +13

    Why do we pay gst on rates? They are a property tax, since when should we pay tax on a tax?

    • @MandySam13
      @MandySam13 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@shagsheep8832True. It’s like taxing unrealised gains? The property increasing in value doesn’t actually give us any money in the hand?

  • @jw-5654
    @jw-5654 Před 4 měsíci +3

    This is brilliant Michael, I wonder if you could apply your brilliance to get us out of this crazy juggernaught that is driving us all broke.

  • @djlewis78
    @djlewis78 Před 4 měsíci +15

    I think Wayne Brown has attempted to remove some of the ineffective, although I don't think he got the amount of change he had hoped

    • @glennanthony3165
      @glennanthony3165 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Unfortunately he is just one voice and needs a ton more councilors on board with what he wants to achieve

  • @kevinansley7353
    @kevinansley7353 Před 4 měsíci +12

    In the 30 years I have lived at my current house never have the council done a single thing to improve or increase the service to the property yet my rates still increase, why?

    • @JohanThiart
      @JohanThiart Před 4 měsíci +2

      You can go to the library and find that they do not have the book that you are looking for.

    • @idenhlm
      @idenhlm Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@JohanThiartMust be a b**** expensive library.

    • @JohanThiart
      @JohanThiart Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@idenhlm libraries and main stream media are potential casualties of the electronic age.
      Most books are already available on online libraries. Not vulnerable to flooding or earthquakes.

  • @user-vr2ri8bs9w
    @user-vr2ri8bs9w Před 4 měsíci +4

    when I was growing up council members were volunteers..they all had day jobs and were DCC volunteers

  • @MrMigido
    @MrMigido Před 4 měsíci +10

    Local councils are donut makers.. Big circles of dough and with a big hole in the middle.

  • @chriskiwi2601
    @chriskiwi2601 Před 2 měsíci

    Spot on Michael.

  • @beenflying1
    @beenflying1 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Totally agree!

  • @sallykemp1427
    @sallykemp1427 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Rates we pay go up every year.

    • @adsdft585
      @adsdft585 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Since changes in about 1991. Local government started stop having it own works department, grass cutting department etc. design by National to reduce cost and provide efficiency. Long it has not worked. UK MP J Corbin identified this.

  • @delinquentinparadise
    @delinquentinparadise Před 4 měsíci +17

    The actual property owner and spouse should be the only people allowed to vote for Council.
    And Public Excluded meetings should be illegal. The thousands of Students in Wellington vote for Woke Green Councillors who do not work in the in the Ratepayers best interests.

    • @jasperhorace7147
      @jasperhorace7147 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hear, hear.

    • @idenhlm
      @idenhlm Před 4 měsíci

      Excluding the public, that's exactly where this has all started. It's the public that know there communities the best and to have our elected reps lock us out is the real sign of dictatorship, Winston Peter's is right.

    • @foggycoast
      @foggycoast Před 4 měsíci +3

      Either that or a poll tax, per person resident in the locality. So students pay too and then they can swallow the real cost of their demands (cycleways, cycleways, cycleways, greenwash and arts and entertainment), just like the rest of us.

    • @ronaldwarren1267
      @ronaldwarren1267 Před 4 měsíci

      I hear there's an opportunity for new mayor in wellington

    • @MandySam13
      @MandySam13 Před 4 měsíci

      Those that vote in the Greens to the Wellington council are an example of left wingers who have no respect for other people’s money. Some of them are probably students & never had a real
      Job?

  • @user-vn2ip5qo1w
    @user-vn2ip5qo1w Před 4 měsíci +6

    But what can we do about that? All of us that are struggling with paying our bills and mortgage and groceries....the backbone of the country....what can WE do about that??

    • @patneho6684
      @patneho6684 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Rise up,refuse to pay your rates. Stand united.

  • @keithfletcher236
    @keithfletcher236 Před 4 měsíci +4

    When are Councils going to be brought to heel, rate increase of this magnitude cannot continue people need to start asking hard questions and tell hem to stick to the basic council services rather than all the nice to haves

  • @terryryan6569
    @terryryan6569 Před 4 měsíci

    Well said Michael

  • @paulleary8594
    @paulleary8594 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Environment canterburys rates have gone up 25% this year, ffs

    • @brianbell8958
      @brianbell8958 Před 4 měsíci +2

      And this is one Council we certainly do not need, complete waste of space and unable to get a proper job.

  • @kesfitzgerald1084
    @kesfitzgerald1084 Před 4 měsíci +2

    It would be better if they were corrupt rather than incompetent that way we could negotiate a fee and then be left in peace.
    Instead, they gouge and gouge and still tell you what to do, even when what you are doing is perfectly legal.

  • @mr2981
    @mr2981 Před 4 měsíci

    Brilliantly put, Michael

  • @geofflewis8599
    @geofflewis8599 Před 4 měsíci +12

    and Labour Party political hacks..

  • @doreenjones5904
    @doreenjones5904 Před 3 měsíci

    I have worked in a local Council as well and you really are hitting the nail on the head. A bunch of numpties with more power than they can handle honestly. Stuck behind desks and computers hoping no one would put any work their way! They wouldnt know what work is!

  • @mxvega1097
    @mxvega1097 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Councils keep grabbing because they have misappropriated the capex depreciation (which should have been saved) and spent it on opex (which should come from recurrent funding).
    The situation in Wellington City should be investigated as a financial crime.

    • @ronaldwarren1267
      @ronaldwarren1267 Před 4 měsíci +2

      You really need a new mayor in that town hic hic

    • @MandySam13
      @MandySam13 Před 4 měsíci

      Having a drunk for a mayor surely doesn’t help thing?

  • @christopherclayton8577
    @christopherclayton8577 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Local government and the people employed thereby has been, for the most part, the ditherers' paradise for at least two decades. We've all let geometric rate increases through for some time now, but now we've reached the part of the cost curve that rises so quickly that you are right to question the very basis for the current regimes.
    We've just voted out a national government that has crippled our economic prospects for years to come. It is very much time to do the same thing at municipal, district and regional levels. Oh - first thing we do is fire most of the local government who choose the contractors for drains/pipes maintenance and road works.

  • @Ricky-nq7lu
    @Ricky-nq7lu Před 4 měsíci +5

    Well said mate.

  • @barrycuda3769
    @barrycuda3769 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Buller council are talking about a 38.1 % increase, horrifying.

    • @Gogga7
      @Gogga7 Před 4 měsíci +2

      That's insane mate

    • @ronaldwarren1267
      @ronaldwarren1267 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Nope not paying that what they going to do stand up people

    • @barrycuda3769
      @barrycuda3769 Před 4 měsíci +1

      The services ( or lack of ) in the Buller town I live in definitely do not make me happy about this increase in rates, it's expensive enough now, considering the sporadic footpaths, poor street lighting, no wheelie bins for glass ,or general rubbish, and you have to put your rubbish in specific Buller council rubbish bags that they charge big money for . Talk about a raw deal.

  • @Gogga7
    @Gogga7 Před 4 měsíci +3

    One point to make, not only of the council, but all government entities, is that there are a huge amount of staff that are due to retire over the next 3-5years, most are in "leadership" positions, and Voluntary redundancy as a cost cutting measure will speed up this process. We are going to see huge changes because of this, and it may prompt a central government review of necessary services. Councils may find themselves redundant entities over the coming years, especially When theres a recession, which there will be.

  • @mattheweden-pc5pk
    @mattheweden-pc5pk Před 4 měsíci +2

    Looking at the way the wellington mayor and some of the councillors are behaving , we the ratepayers should be expecting better from them, as a business owner you always look at every dollar spent to make you at least $3 dollars in return, this is the way that they should be treated our money

  • @Digmen1
    @Digmen1 Před 4 měsíci +5

    A lot of it is our fault, as we do not vote very much on the local elections
    And we (not me) vote for people that love our city

  • @pendulumnz
    @pendulumnz Před 4 měsíci

    Great rant Michael. When covid mandates hit in 2021 most thinking people left in local govt were kicked out. We are left with compliant order followers in the lower echelons, and authoritarian dictators at the top. What we need is decentralisation. We need local governance, but not by the people in there now, nor the policies or legislation. We need good quality, intelligent locals who live and participate in their community, to manage their community resources and assets. Flush it all out and get the best people for the job. Not the most compliant of bullyish. And not only in local govt. In schools, health boards, Parliament. Decisions makers are totally out of touch with the people, and the people know this.

  • @OXSEnterprises
    @OXSEnterprises Před 4 měsíci

    It's the same everywhere because they're allowed to get away with it. No one has any idea how to do something about it.

  • @waterbourne9282
    @waterbourne9282 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Agreed. Inexcusable. Completely irresponsible and slaves to the current woke fashions, at our expense. They all seem to be busy rebuilding ever larger plush palatial office buildings, and continue profligate spending while council debt is at reckless levels. And they never look internally for efficiencies as it is simpler to just ram up rates. Some serious Afuera! required.

  • @marksheehan8026
    @marksheehan8026 Před 4 měsíci +1

    That's exactly what's happening in the lakes district,, l worked around it for years ( lam self employed)
    It's getting worst every year in so many ways .. we haven't had any councilors effective in any way ....

  • @jamesplummer356
    @jamesplummer356 Před 4 měsíci +2

    There is another question
    Why is it the same all around the western world?

  • @peterwiles1299
    @peterwiles1299 Před 4 měsíci +2

    A mirror of central government really.😢

  • @adsdft585
    @adsdft585 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Landlords are often cost plus!

  • @lindafrancis7980
    @lindafrancis7980 Před 4 měsíci

    Thankyou Michael Laws! It would be great if you could come to Gisborne and tell our overpaid Council employees exactly what you have written! They never get rid of staff, always empire building. Never mind that the hard-hit ratepayers can’t afford to pay the fancy salaries on offer here!

  • @bridget7705
    @bridget7705 Před 4 měsíci

    Quite right!!

  • @Digmen1
    @Digmen1 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Maybe its time to tax everyone towards local bodies - eg a poll tax.
    They tried it in England
    Or they need to cut back on all the vanity projects and the cycle lanes that no one wants and the bus lanes that no one uses.
    Eg here in Tauranga there are 700 people (moving into a new building?)

  • @rayjack49
    @rayjack49 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Councils could spend the rates a lot better also they should reduce staff
    plus do the Job they are paid to do

  • @andym1134
    @andym1134 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Councils need to stick to core responsibilities of infrastructure not parades, festivals or any other feel good event that they believe they can waste ratepayers money on, let private corporations sponsor those events. And if their pay was tied to performance we'd see a change too not doubt.

  • @catherineutting8284
    @catherineutting8284 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I couldn't of said it better myself 😅

  • @catharinabellekom2013
    @catharinabellekom2013 Před 4 měsíci +5

    they like to give themselves big salaries. And we have to pay?????

  • @ronaldwarren1267
    @ronaldwarren1267 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I am boycotting the Auckland council by not paying my rates sure the can put a lean on my house but i still have my money, first want to see the wages (what the clowns get paid)evidence of them cutting staff and trying to save money no more cycle ways dumb speed bumps etc etc whos with me

    • @patneho6684
      @patneho6684 Před 4 měsíci

      I've already asked questions regarding rates, until I receive a reply....

  • @georgesmith8824
    @georgesmith8824 Před 3 měsíci

    Well put Michael. But what can be done about it?

  • @barbaratomlinson5404
    @barbaratomlinson5404 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Councils have layers of managers, staff, team leaders, managers, and managers the money is spent on nice to have stuff, the arts, charities, owning airports investing in airports stadiums, etc, etc
    Time for less staff. Less boards Time to work on core projects only infrastructure 3 waters, roads and maintenance of core projects. No stupid ideas about holding Commonwealth games what are these people doing its insane as the saying goes it easier to spend other people's money
    The madness has got to stop and yes do we really need councils??

  • @kesfitzgerald1084
    @kesfitzgerald1084 Před 4 měsíci +1

    They are like feudal lords who sally out to levy the hapless peasants.

  • @angge4261
    @angge4261 Před 4 měsíci

    Can scarcely believe how perfectly bang on this is.

  • @user-hb8lo7mr4k
    @user-hb8lo7mr4k Před 4 měsíci +3

    Very true Mr Laws, however someone has to pay for the Smart city bill, 20, 30 minute cities will not pay for themselves, hence the phenomenal rate increase now in in the future, we will be paying for our own prisons, works well when they start to drop pandemic and climate lockdowns.

  • @JohanThiart
    @JohanThiart Před 4 měsíci +2

    Local government staff are generally very well qualified. There are sone really good people working at local governments.
    But they are generally all very self serving!
    Most of them know full well that they need to tell council what management wants them to tell councillors.

  • @dank5525
    @dank5525 Před 4 měsíci +1

    For the average Auckland house of 1 M, the rates is $2700 per year. For the pensioner, his total net super (after tax) is just under $20,000 per year. Therefore, the rates is more than 10 percent of what they get from Winz. In this cost of living crisis, it is already hard to survive on the super. How are they going to afford paying more rates? Councils have to think of other ways to raise money to finance their fantasy projects.

  • @davidshellock1588
    @davidshellock1588 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Councils are corporations..

  • @andreatodd3095
    @andreatodd3095 Před 4 měsíci

    Local Councils could learn from ACT Party, making sure every dollar spent by rate payers is well spent and not wasted.

  • @stephmullin9709
    @stephmullin9709 Před 4 měsíci

    But we still have to pay 😢😢

  • @yvonneboden-jones8334
    @yvonneboden-jones8334 Před 4 měsíci

    The Waimakariri Council is $180 MILLION in debt!! And yet they're planning on spending over $20MILLION to upgrade the Rangiora Library or....build a new library to also house "all council staff". They ie the ratepayers...own 900 properties...why???

  • @alistermacpherson7120
    @alistermacpherson7120 Před 3 měsíci

    The first change that needs to take place,is to run Local Body elections,as proper elections?Postal voting is just a complete joke,it just keeps perpuating what we have.

  • @JoJoKaat
    @JoJoKaat Před 4 měsíci

    💯
    Our regional council seems to increase the number of useless jobs, while the scientific and technical roles that ‘do the doing’ have to fight to keep their numbers static. Useless roles such as ‘customer insights’ (not applicable with the council being the ONLY entity that takes rates and allocates these services), ‘Democracy’ (still can’t work this out) and various‘advisors’ who seem to have no professional skills whatsoever

  • @chrisbayly6612
    @chrisbayly6612 Před 4 měsíci

    Hi Michael laws our local govt is a Corporation

  • @user-mm8pj4cm8j
    @user-mm8pj4cm8j Před 4 měsíci

    In Christchurch we certainly do not need buses every 10 minutes as proposed by Evan,,given 90% of buses are currently running empty why would we do this in the current economic climate

  • @olliemoose2020
    @olliemoose2020 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The trouble with Councils in this country is they have fare to much power and regulation-over the average people, do as I say or I will beat you with this big stick is there mentality, you carn’t fight them on any query that you may have because they hold all the cards and use your rates money to fight you. I Don’t have many good thing’s to say about Councils and I don’t know anyone that has, they need to stop wasting money on bet vanity projects and start using the rate payer’s money on the things that really matter the most like roading water sewage and rubbish removal, all other spending should only come after these essentials have been covered.

  • @alfvanderhulst8489
    @alfvanderhulst8489 Před 4 měsíci

    Just think, maybe councils should have spent the money they collect over decades under the banner of "water rates" on.... water infrastructure. There's an idea.

  • @user-xr7kp6pf7k
    @user-xr7kp6pf7k Před 4 měsíci +1

    Dunedin
    Borrowing 1 million a week to pay the interest only with the billion dollar loan

  • @terryhapi8567
    @terryhapi8567 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Does that mean when i have finished paying my mortgage i am really just transferring my mortgage payments to my Rates and more on a weekly basis does that seem fair

  • @Angela_Marino
    @Angela_Marino Před 3 měsíci

    A democracy demands we have local representation, where do you want it from? Local councilors and representatives have already articulated that they have been subject to outside mandates that have been out of their control. The solution is not to kill off democracy and local voices but to protect them from outside exploiters , which is the democratic duty of parliament, otherwise just throw Kiwis to the WEF and every other alphabet agency and corporation.

  • @brianholland5412
    @brianholland5412 Před 4 měsíci

    Ratepayers need to take actions against snowballing rate increases and regional rates are also unaccountable to the ratepayers. High court action is appropriate, we the people should be rising up and dictating to council, not them dictating to us.

  • @lukasure2041
    @lukasure2041 Před 4 měsíci

    Maybe tell your mates in the government this so they don't leave critical water infrastructure in local council hands?

  • @lindafrancis7980
    @lindafrancis7980 Před 4 měsíci

    When ratepayers will fail to pay their rates, then the locals might start to understand how the land grab is going to work.

  • @olliemoose2020
    @olliemoose2020 Před 4 měsíci

    Councillor’s and mayor’s should only be payed by confidence performance statistic’s not for just turning up and being there, after all that is what everyone else has to conform to in the work place.

  • @HugoLuizCruz
    @HugoLuizCruz Před 4 měsíci

    I agree with everything but we vote them in.

  • @adsdft585
    @adsdft585 Před 4 měsíci +2

    We recall the new government says they are best to manage water. But you see your comments bring this into doubt. In September and October you did not speak like this. Why?

  • @user-fi6fq9yb5c
    @user-fi6fq9yb5c Před 4 měsíci

    This could be said of government to

  • @leecmwilliams-august3690
    @leecmwilliams-august3690 Před 4 měsíci

    Aren't they all corporations, businesses there to take n make money for the government, local and national. AND are we constitutes born as legal corporations in ourselves not seen as living people , isnt that why all mail from them and government offices arrive with our names in capital letters.

  • @andym1134
    @andym1134 Před 4 měsíci

    Your description of those who end up working for Councils sounds not too dissimilar to anyone working in Parliament.

  • @adsdft585
    @adsdft585 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Labour identified this cost and expertise issue. This was part three waters change.
    If governance model as an issue. Hold referendum about this part of the law only.

    • @JohanThiart
      @JohanThiart Před 4 měsíci +2

      Sleep walking, are you?
      Look around you and look at what your rates are spent on.

    • @ronaldwarren1267
      @ronaldwarren1267 Před 4 měsíci

      Where's Robin hood oh that's right running the councils

    • @JohanThiart
      @JohanThiart Před 4 měsíci

      @@ronaldwarren1267 the only problem is that Robin Hood was working with Government and decided that stealing from the poor will improve things for the privileged and wealthy. 3Waters was a bad deal.

    • @adsdft585
      @adsdft585 Před 4 měsíci

      @JohanThiart see what happens now! Can places like Gore pay ! Its rates need to rise by 5,000 to fund the needed work.
      ( or borrowing ( fueling the debt based economy).

    • @JohanThiart
      @JohanThiart Před 4 měsíci

      @@adsdft585 go and look at your council long term plans.
      What changed?
      OK, there is a new regulator who brought in new rules. Are the councils arguing that the affordability of managing three waters was affected by these new rules. We survived quite well up to the establishment of the new regulator, mind you.
      Is it our regulations around mitigating and managing climate change that is causing the affordability? Ask yourself, ask your council.
      Then who would have paid for the 3Water rort? Ask yourself that question. If your answer is Robin Hood, then good luck bro!

  • @HereIam-rg3vy
    @HereIam-rg3vy Před 4 měsíci +2

    I blame the National Party gov of the 1990s for this debacle.Who was the guy who gave National government contracts to his wife?I’ve forgotten his name

  • @adsdft585
    @adsdft585 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Words from spin doctors. You say proganda. The new government does same. The obvious question is why does council need to use private business to build everything? ( Go back to the 1960s). Were rates lower then with council run works department?

  • @magenta6
    @magenta6 Před 4 měsíci

    That is such a lop-sided view Michael. As a former Mayor you would know all about the Local Government Act. District Councils are the meat in the sandwich between National legislation created by do-gooders and ideologues and the land owners with enormous vested interests. Local councils are forced by law to roll out whatever dodgy dictats go through NZ's democratic process. They are forced to implement them within formal timeframes and they simply don't have the resources do what is asked of them. I think your tirade could be better directed further up the chain of command.

  • @elizabethserene9957
    @elizabethserene9957 Před 4 měsíci

    Self reflection Micheal?? Still waiting for your apology# nextdaychchnextSupercity
    Yet again not really on the money...some home truths, but partial truths are hardly truths.

  • @peterellismaaka5436
    @peterellismaaka5436 Před 4 měsíci +1

    👍💔😵😜😖🤪