David Seymour on Removing Pharmac's Treaty Obligations
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Michael Laws talks to ACT Leader David Seymour about removing Pharmac's Treaty obligations.
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Treaty has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with Pharmac in New Zealand.
FFS
Who said
Exactly. This isn't about Pharmac at all. It's about tinkering with the treaty. How many more experts UN ecetera have to state the Treaty is the founding document as it stands.
Yet here we are yet again trying to exclude Maori. It Unlawful and he knows it. And Michael Laws knows it so he groveling over the 4th article. Shamefully so.
@@Keepitsimple183 deputy PM did
@@Keepitsimple183 Why on earth would it?
@kareymartin If you were in a team of two, just saying...yes I'm being very simplistic.
And you were to be included in all decisions big or small. Say you were blue the other person red all decisions would be ,...one would hope a blending of both. So different shades of purple.
If you were suddenly excluded ...for whatever reason. You wouldn't be able to see anything but red.
How would you feel?
So refreshing to hear a minister speak plain English …
Scrap the Treaty. Keep it simple.
Ban it !
You carnt.. Its a document like we all sign when we go for a job..‼️‼️ Dumb Ass
@@5150showyou can’t it’s against the law
Scrap it so that all pakeha get deported back to england where you come from pakeha!!!!
rather make treaty/ s with China than with non vegans.
You can't make this shit up...oh wait you can if you're Pharmac. Glad they are being held to task.
Goverment obligation to treaty.
Pharmac isnt in the treaty???
Good on you david, time to get racism out of medicine. And everywhere else the left out it
👍👍
how is that racism idiot? Maori have more right to the governance of this country than you! That is just fact, you are just a guest. in this country.
Some sanity and courage at last. We have wasted enough time on devisive thinking that is expected by others. We are all one !!
David is a fine leader i love his transparency
Ban the cheaty
David is going from strength to strength in common sense. Rare in politicians
I was just thinking the same. Easy to pick holes of course, but he deserves some credit.
It's only common sense if you agree with the Seymour.
Who's completely off the mark.
@@Keepitsimple183 so straight up, you think people of different ethnicities should pay different prices for their medicine???🤔
@@Keepitsimple183 according to you. I can see this guy growing the ACT party in a big way. He cuts through the BS and isn’t nasty like the left are currently. National is just another party who wants to offend no one at the cost of the country’s future. I’ll def vote ACT next time round they really are. Stand out for positive change
@@zweed69do you think that people’s ability to access healthcare and the quality of healthcare should be determined by how much money someone has or even worse how much money their parents have? If it is a one health system for all equality and needs based approach you are after that’s fine but then let’s go all the way and actually not let any groups of people have an advantage over another when it comes to accessing healthcare. Why did we allow people to profit off people’s health?
Surely in a needs based system, those with the most disadvantages have the greater need, which according to the data over decades Maori would be one of the key disadvantaged groups.
Excellent work David. Many thanks from one of the ‘silent majority’.
Michael does an excellent interviewer very balanced
I like this guy a lot
Thankyou Michael🌹👍 Go Honourable David Seymour. 👍👍 Thankyou for having common sense.👍🌹💖
Common sense doesn't exist.
Honor is for God. Same as your majesty and Lord and highness.
Click on to how your worship idols, crowns and money.
If I'm wrong than why do lawyer swear oaths and constantly refer to a mortal man or woman your Worship?
Hidden in plain sight.
Emblems are for simpletons look at the one for Aotearoa. She isn't standing up there with anyone but Maori and some dead sheep.
@@tracymichaelsen493 ?????
@@kiwikat8143 And what?
The only obligation under the treaty is to treat everybody the same! the whole thing is an assurance that everybody has equal standing under the law. Those who might feel prejudiced by that perhaps need to look at themselves and how they themselves and how they purport themselves under that law.
Great work David
Where does it say in the treaty of Waitangi Maori have to be consulted about medical drugs?
@@user-te3jc3sl7r Standby... they are just making that bit up as well...
Mythical 4th article...The perfect description of this nonsense.
Sensible. Apply Cost Benefit Analysis of the cost of medicine saves the same or more in hospital costs then it is a win! 🏆 Seymour makes sense again
David is soaring in leadership manna
Can we just keep Seymour as our Prime Minister!!
If private sector can do better I'm all for it. I do remember the NZ railways completely ran down when owned privately, to such an extent a little five year old boy become blinded due to a failing guard rail in NZ.
Have we forgotten?
Have not forgotten....gvt should be in charge of kiwi rail....they can't do any worse than what it was in private ownership.....they need bloody good manager's CEO's and staff to run NZ Rail.
@@andreatodd3095 I'd replied to you, politely, and agreeing with you, but it has been removed.
@@magingi ok, interesting, have experienced that myself a few times, imo I feel certain conversations aren't meant to progress if you get my drift
@@andreatodd3095 Funny, in a comment I made yesterday, I said the same thing: 'If you get my drift'.
Yes, certain conversations are not permitted even if they are perfectly healthy.
Also a lot of asset stripping as I recall.
There is NO Article 4 full stop
Pharmac has Treaty obligations? Huh?
Only Maori and Pakeha and the Treaty.
David's trying to be sneaky by adding a third party.
@tracymichaelsen493 no one has treaty obligations. We simply do not recognise the treaty, therefore it is meaningless.
@maverick214 Than why does David use that word?
@schlookie If the Yreaty was meaningless WHY is it such a huge topic for David and you?
Because tinker time is over , implementing the Treaty is on the table. Has been since it was signed.
Now that Maori are achieving the Treaty is now being tinkered with. Why? Because it holds weight. You can make light of it all you like. You feel the weight of it and it fills you full of fear. Because you believe David and Michael and anyone else that reinforces your own belief systems.
Each to their own. Move with the times or move over . It's your choice.
@tracymichaelsen493 it's a non issue, because the treaty doesn't exist.
Thank you David Seymour 👍
In this interview Michael says that David needs to "refresh" the board...well with Dr Antony Jordon resigning from the Pharmac board today ...the swamp is now self draining. Good on David Seymour. Getting this country back on track.
absobloodylutely..I have just listened to this interview...go onto the next level...makes real sense.
All the junk food and sprays, might be the best and first port of call.
Might even stop the soil being a insult to us.
David isn't scared to come on -Fuxton is 😂
Didn't you know Acting Prime ministers when in that role AREthe Primeminister and hold all his authority. It's a political little tweek to the law so that when the other comes back he denies accountability. Then sneaks off tagging tinkerbell back in the ring.
You notice at Waitangi David stuck to his guns (pun intended)and straight after Luxton told Maoridom not to worry. NO tinkering will be done.
Then tap in tinkerbell, go off to kiss every political nutterz arse on the planet with billions on offer, our soldiers to the slaughter for a country none of us knew existed.
Billions and promise of billions more for covid vaccines no one in the world want to take now.
Luxton may think he and you are C class but the fck if he's selling Maori as C class citizens to the war dogs. He claims Joe Biden is engaging to talk to? WTF. And Maori has intitlement issues. That idiot was running around like a little peasant and giggling how he loves it all because he's an extrovert. Ego tripping fat git
Luxton is an egomaniac.
@@gtestastretta1 also knownen as - ''El Duce'' with that headd shave.'
Excellent interview
Maori privilege once again its disgusting why are we jumping to Maori demands !! Are we not all 1 New Zealand people?
Wondering why this country has so many nonsense going around, should every citizen has the same and equal right in New Zealand? Is it an obvious common value in the modern society?
Didn't realize pharmac was around in 1840
Yep released the black plague, and been going from strength to strength ever since
How can the treaty shenanigans have any sway over Pharmac, when medical treatment of the day was Kanakawa leaves for all ailments. It’s clearly more grift and approved by supposed professionals in the department??? Is this more of the “gold standard”’ of medical science we were told to accept.
Smart move to vote ACT
Just imagine if everyone who voted for the silly Greens had voted for ACT...
Make it stop!
Obligation...no such thing...one country, one law, one flag. No more Maori privilege.
NZ is now more racist than Australia, at least they acknowledge the Indigenous people over here! Don’t hear white aussies say sh@t your saying!
@@rata4878 non-White people not having ultimate power isn't "racist" lol
ahh notice they main beggers on new Zealand foot-paths , and main breed for free meals/ food parcels at Auckland City mission and other Free - loading spots/ areas.
Maori have become magical. 🎉. Yet the reality I quite different
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@@Millektm look how they speak, look how they pretend to hold themselves. Kiwis are sick of it.
@@mfnzer ahh only deal with Asians as they call me - ''Sir.'' Plus ahh can understand their words better than humans born in neww zealand.
pharnac has no treaty obligations. liebour made it up.
Good work mate 👏 you are good leader 👍
Why does anyone have 'treaty obligations'?
Resourcing put into virtue signalling doesn’t help the end user good work👏🏾
Air NZ needs its own separate conversation happy to take taxpayer $$ in bailouts then proceeds to use monopolistic position (in many routes) to price gouge. Time to disinvest and look at how more players can be introduced and a proper competitive market supported
Yep - unbelievable overpriced travel domestically - I was shafted by them in order to use-up a credit I had ...
Its time to stop being weak white apologists. Its ok to be you and not feel guilty. You have evolved for a reason.
Remove ALL the Treaty bullshit obligations and you will save the country millions of dollars of Gravy Train money into the pockets of rich Maori....
Isnt Paula Bennett a boss there??….what the hell she thinking??🤮
More common sense from David, get used to the extra duties, we would like to see you stay as Prime Minister
Don't nZ own the rail tracks but investors own the trains? Its been some years now so could have changed. So not surprised if NZ was losing money and the investor was making money. But how many times has NZ given money away when these business starts to fail as well
Disagree on Government not owning things like the railways or ministry of works etc. What needs to change is the thinking that such endeavours need to run at a profit like a corporation does, as a country is not a corporation, its job is a service provider to all residents, including job creation. A government department will never be efficient, such is the nature of bloated bureaucracy.
They now spend billion's on consultancy and fund corporate profits E.g Fulton and Hogan, who never seem to fully open roads before sucking at the teat again, in order to repair their last crap constructions, yet the old MOW built solid roads and were generally able to keep them pothole free.
Thus far all the colours of the political rainbow - (yeah and even that beautiful word and image is now politically charged) are all useless short term thinkers. I use the word 'thinkers' loosely.
Side note; Funny that Air NZ is still 'failing' to deliver, considering the PMs last job prior as CEO of Air NZ. Lucky timing to leave in 2019 or he would have left a very different corp...
Politicians in the main have no business sense. They only know how to spend, they have no idea on how to generate anything profitable.
Politicians should not be the shareholder, everyone in New Zealand should be the shareholder.
Or does David say Politicians are the shareholders because Govt is a Corporation, actually New Zealand is a registered Corporation. A company, like most other Countries.
What does that make Democracy, an illusion? Thought so.
So we vote for Shareholders in the Company, registered as New Zealand and allow ourselves to be 'taxed', so that the Company has a huge 'purse', to play with.
It is no wonder people fight so hard to become, Politicians/Shareholders?
Except as proven by history, when Air NZ was in private ownership, they ran it into the ground and it needed to be bailed out by the govt. Why repeat that?
Going to need those drugs for the smokers so nz can use tax money off smokes to by those drugs
We could rake it in if the treaty had obligations to pharmac, ok might need a bit up front, but imagine all the new plants etc sea ones too that are outside mega medicane companys control.
A little bit targeted at the worse off is just smart if you can audit beyond simple mindedness.
All the fancy words are crud at addressing the maths and returns.
Getting the coalface to care about health is the best bang for buck.
Better than any flash modern whatever.
If they stopped making such a drama about it and sounded prozaic it might recive a more nusanced intellegant response.
Please learn your Maori vowel sounds Michael Laws
What are you talking about, the indigenous people of aotearoa were designing complex organic molecules, elucidating the structure through X-ray crystallography and NMR and then conducting phase 1, 2 and 3 clinical trials...way before any oppressive colonial people came along. They were doing this unconsciously guided by their connection to the natural world, right down to the atomic level. Non Maori need to realise this.
😂😂😂
what a load of rubbish to put it mildly..head out of oriface and get a grip.
Nonce
Back to the private sector so more money can go into shareholders and CEO's pockets and less money going into customer service. The Pandemic ruined the aviation industry that's why Luxon bailed out .
Seymour is full of B.S as usual. Air Nz. 52% owned by government- is one of the few airlines that managed to remain profitable through the global financial crisis and immediate aftermath without Luxon. Air NZ is still reaping profits with a near record NZ$390 million last financial year, of course without Luxon and total privatization, and that's why the likes of Seymour wants it to go private so he and his mates can get their sticky little fingers on profitable stock, (insider trading).. so Seymour is spouting nonsense as usual and needs to do some research before he opens his mouth
Jesus tell me you know absolutely nothing without telling me. You clearly have zero clue about the aviation sector, and it was pointed out during covid the absolute lack of support from the clown troop in charge that there would be severe ramifications for an industry that isn't just aircraft flying around taking people on Holiday if it was just left to flounder, as it was. Don't accuse others of opening their mouth talking nonsense while literally doing just that. Also feel free to explain in a coherent way why what Seymour has said RE removing the Maori BS from things like Pharmac is also wrong- which you can't do without sounding like a raving lunatic.
The lockdown ruined the aviation industry not the Pandemic and many such companies received very nice "tourism industry grants" you can look that up - it is public information ... You should be blaming the Labour/Maori/Greens for the damage not Seymour.
BAAAAAAAAAAAAA Little labour troll
@@neillewis785 just facts nothing to do with Labour you can research it yourself or just be as ignorant as Seymour and open your mouth before your 2 brain cells kick in. I have blocked you because you are a moron
1 term govt thanks to Saymour
any maori and pacific island reps get invited Semore
Why?
@@Gumpmachine1 Because apparently we are all one.ain't we.
@@user-kx3js9ec2h I’d hope so
As this is a medical issue then ethnicity of the experts isn’t really a consideration, only their expertise
@@Gumpmachine1 everyone matters that's why
@@user-kx3js9ec2h not in the context of certain discussions
People need to have relevant expertise in certain fields for their contributions to be useful