Brilliant, the more I listen to Mr Jones the more I’ve started to respect him, or more to the point understand him, New Zealand First, and what they are wanting to achieve for ALL New Zealanders.
When are we as a country going to realise that New Zealand First is the only Party whose policies follow their party name. Mr Shane and Sir Winnie by far the best qualified to bring about and lead a united New Zealand. Much respect and support Shane.
Yea Labour had completely sold the country out and I think Luxon would do the same NZ 1st has my vote everytime now and I believe they will go from strength to strength as they should in a sane world
Claiming oppression and victimhood is the easy alternative to taking self-responsibility for one’s failures. Labour shamelessly fed and encouraged the former and was willing to flush the whole country down the toilet in the process. It still remains to be seen whether they succeeded or not.
I like what Shane is saying here! I think the worst action you can do for any people who are a minority is to play the victim card!! My future is determined by the actions and decisions I take, no one else! My Father taught me to respect others and demand it back! I live by those values, I think that is what Shane is talking about!!!
@@petereade4936 BRO I think you missed my point and Shane's! It is about Integrity, your own integrity, important with this is taking responsibility rather than blaming everyone else for your problems! Shane is calling this, 'playing the victim card'.
I don't know where to start...My Mum was part Māori, my Dad was part German...So according to the Māori party half of me is OK and the other half is a Genocidal Maniac???. So I am confused, should I characterize myself as a Mud Blood, Blood Traitor or what? Well all my life and I now am 68 years old, I have thought of myself as a KIWI. I really have not got the talent for rhetoric like Mr Jones et al, they are saying things that I am sure all New Zealanders who have a brain, myself included 100% agree with and should have been said a long time ago...Keep up the good work Mr Peters and Mr Jones...
Keep up the great work mr shane jones tou will be getting my vote next election. We need someone who has a little teump in them to stand up and fight this racist activist BS.
The Maori electoral roll, lower marks to get into med school, breaking charities law without consequences, going to the front of the line in hospital emergency departments, exclusive spaces in universities, jobs in mainstream TV, Maori TV station, what rot, could Maori have more opportunities or be more pampered ?
What a load of bollocks you are spewing, Omg your remarks are what make it divisive. I am proud Maori, I stand and wait in line like everyone else, everything I have I work bludy hard for without the non existent handouts that you are implying (this historical attitude makes me so angry and sad) I've never gotten anything more or less than you do or any other NZer and I don't know of anyone who does so keep your stupid false beliefs to yourself unless you have some actual hard facts to share because I would be very interested to know where this happens and not the lies you've sadly learned from someone just as misinformed as you.Gawd.
Forgot to add, not only exclusive spaces at universities but free. If the pass each year the following year is free. Quite sickening if you think of this as they could become anything they want without having to start work with a massive student loan. Now the question is how many succeed, hardly any, why? because they are not paying - so fail the first year, lose the privilege and drop out.
Debbie should be prosecuted or sued for those comments, is our race relations mediator asleep or does the mediator support the Maori party comments ? - it must be one or the other
Yes, I've also heard that. It's very distressing that some are taking this ridiculous ideology back to their Marae. The vast majority of Maori don't support this TPM nonsense.
Wow that's heavy can you explain more of what is being promoted? I'm seriously keen to know as I have never been to any event on a Marae and have little idea what they teach there. I think it used to be Tikanga Christianity mainly but turned more Pagan? Are you a Christian?
As a child growing up with my Maori cousins, Maori school mates I am today saddened by the hate and the overarching desire to open wounds that healed more than a century in the past. These wounds will only get infected and give rise to a need for amputation. I would hate to see that happen as I am very proud of my family, all of them.
Come on national, dont let nz down again. Get rid of all special laws etc only available to part maori people in nz. One person one vote. When maori have over the last 50 uears have negotiated with the crown, the crown obviously have not represented nonmaori nzers. These usually misguided beaurocrats have only represented the crown to the great detriment of all non maori and the future of NZ
So basically all New Zealanders ? Or are you putting Maori as a separate category ? Because that’s the problem. Anyone who is living in NZ are considered kiwis.
I watched an interveiw in the US between Jacinda Ardern and an internet journalist. He asked Jacinda " are you dividing NZ ,She laughed and said yes." This was while she was prime minister. The media was silent. I am not sure whether it has been taken down like the photo of Jacinda in her communist uniform
@Keepitsimple183 I've been a member since the MP began planning to organize themselves 2003. It's the only Party that values what is important to me. It is the only choice l have to deliver outcomes that align with my needs and expectations. No other political party can do that for me. I support the values of the Green Party in terms of the longevity of our planet, and until the MP arrived, l voted Labour
@@rlckirionarc MMP. The Greens and Labor are a lost causes at this stage. There's idealism, and then there's reality. Knowing the difference is helpful. With the Green MP's, we've had a Green MP bully in Parliament standing over a member of another party and screaming in his face. Then there was another MP who was the 'justice' spokesperson who has been 'convicted' of shop lifting. Now there's another who is embroiled in 'allegations' of 'migrant worker exploitation'. Prior to this, James Shaw, the ex co-leader of the Green party had lied on his Linked-in profile about his qualifications(you don't forget that), and the earlier leader of the Green party, Tariana Turei, had resigned due to having signed a document fraudulently. Are those 'values' important to you? Do they align with your 'needs' and 'expectations'? Between Labor and the Greens, despite 48.4% of NZ voting to 'legalize' cannabis, they couldn't even 'decriminalize' it. I used to vote Labor or Green, for many years. 'Never again'.
@@rlckirionarc MMP. The Greens and Labor are a lost causes at this stage. There's idealism, and then there's reality. Knowing the difference is helpful. With the Green MP's, we've had a Green MP bully in Parliament standing over a member of another party and screaming in his face. Then there was another MP who was the 'justice' spokesperson who has been 'convicted' of shop lifting. Now there's another who is embroiled in 'allegations' of 'migrant worker exploitation'. Prior to this, James Shaw, the ex co-leader of the Green party had lied on his Linked-in profile about his qualifications(you don't forget that), and the earlier leader of the Green party, Tariana Turei, had resigned due to having signed a document fraudulently. Are those 'values' important to you? Do they align with your 'needs' and 'expectations'? Between Labor and the Greens, despite 48.4% of NZ voting to 'legalize' cannabis, they couldn't even 'decriminalize' it. I used to vote Labor or Green, for many years. 'Never again'.
TPM leadership treat governance as an extractive industry. Representation is to prepare the ground to extract maximum resources with minimal regard to the health of the body politic.
The human rights commission only deals with all things that don't include anything to do with Maori anything that is said about Maori they completely disregard.
..Well, the original justification for the Maori Seats disappeared in 1879. Successive Governments have had the opportunity to abolish the Maori seats, now they are in the hands of the wreckers and the haters . Let's see what happens when TPM holds the balance of power in '26..
When are we going to hear the end of poor me and Im poor because of someone else. give it a rest, we all have red blood, two eyes, two hands and a brain to think with. Lease race out of it and accept that maori are not special, they are not indigenous and the only genocide was maori killing the peoples in NZ that were here before them. Stop twisting history, it's the Emperors Clothes.
Just a few of the many thoughts which are coming to me over recent times on this issue.... 1) How many people in NZ are Maori? (and are ANY of them pure 100% Maori?) 2) How many people IDENTIFY as Maori? 3) How many people are on the Maori electoral roll? 4) What should be the definitive way to fix someone's cultural identity? ie "What IS a Maori?" 5) Do all Maori / those who identify as Maori speak with one voice? 6) Who is REALLY leading/driving this new wave of Maorification? 7) How many Maori (or non-Maori) want them to be identified as a separate nationality? 8) And thus, should they have separate governance and all other social, political and economic infrastructure? 9) How would that work and interact with the rest of non-Maori NZ? 10) Should all Maori resettle and live in ONE specific region of 'NZ' (and have a separate nationality, globally recognised)? 11) Should there be a referendum (on the above)? 12) Should we officially make the only language of NZ English, or become 'officially' (by referendum) a 2-language nation, like in Canada? ......etc etc etc.....
Some very good questions, which would not be asked in any NZ main stream media, which, has played a significant role in the adoption of false dichotomies. Often times, when Maori are the alleged 'victims', then we know their ethnicity. But when they are the perpetrators, for some odd reason, that element is missing. I refer to 'reports' in the media. If someone identifies as Maori(fair enough) but genetically speaking they are 65% non Maori, how does that factor distort the data as it were? You know, sociological phenomena. Furthermore, if you do identify as Maori, this confers upon you rights and privileges above and beyond the general population. Hardly equality, under the law or otherwise.
@magingi Thanks to woke ideology anyone can identify as anyone. So goodbye to data and True facts. They all choose fantasies. So as long as they realize they've made a mockery out of civilization and all our ancestors have been through,on all sides!! Irish, Maori,Scottish,Chinese, English, all have suffered and all have gained. It will not end well for those who follow this ideolgy path and why take the country to ransom and those who choose not to rebel against Gods ways. The writing is on the wall. Be content with what We have not complaining except against evil.
@@tamaashford7196 no, it's a shame to be a racist, whining for more money and mollycoddling. But aggressive and violent "warriors" when it suits them. At least Shane doesn't embrace a victimhood hierarchy. He wants Maori to be competent and proud not victims.
Maori party won’t come on here because you won’t listen anyway. Goes in one ear and out the other. If Maori party are acting out of hand then why’s Hawaii, Tahiti and New Caledonia going thru the same thing doing the exact same thing. Even native indigenous Indians in America are seeing what’s happening in Aotearoa. Disgraceful government hopefully get booted out.
Shane doesn’t speak for Māori, he’s saying what non Māori want to hear. My parents who have moved on to Heaven, didn’t hate Pakeha, neither do I or my children and grandchildren but we all have a common belief and history supports us, that this land belongs to us and it was stolen from us and it is coming back to us just like India’s rule returned to the indigenous of that land. To conclude, karma has a way of righting the wrongs and we aren’t going anywhere (except Australia haha 😅) and when the Worst Recession, worse than 1929 hits, and all of you non Māori go broke, we will still be here, because we’ve been in recession for over 180 years and the honeymoon is over for you.😅
Ww1 soldiers were given a money grant to purchase land in a desegnatid area. WW2 vets were helped into work..why would Maori WW2 vets be treated any diferently.
They volunteered to fight for whites. Dont feel sorry for em if they got shafted. My Gramps had a Vietnam vet for a neighbour in the old people flats. He clearly had nothing to show for it too.
@@user-vr2ri8bs9w 500.000 acres of Maori land for soldier settlement was given to be for all soldiers by the time Westmoreland arrived in Auckland a year later another 600.000 was given. Almost all this land was settled by pakehas. Educate yourself
When Some Maori Acknowledged and signed the Treaty, about 2000 Europeans occupied Aotearoa and roughly 200 000 Maori lived here.The Minority white settlers sought protection for their ways of life from the Maori majority Through laws and Governance.less than 200 years later the boot is on the other Foot ,The Many are now the few and find themselves in the same Situation,Using the Laws and Government Legislation to protect their way and Identity.The Irony is thick but the understanding is ignored.For Maori who have despised the Colonial and Cultural Ignorance of the European Political System Are now Purveyors of very system they say has imprisoned them.If you cant beat them join them aye Cuzzy.The fact is we exist in a multi Cultural World, but thats does not mean we cant live as Maori .There is one Race and it is not "First Past the Post" it is Humanity!!!
@annebayne-wr2qy If you look at history nearly every nation has been colonised, taken over or rambunctiously theived off somebody. Life is full of parodies. Personal or National ones. And yes there are injustices, and awful bloodshed but what's important now is what we do to survive and live life the best way we can..taking nothing for granted and thanking God for our privileges and blessings with what time we've got left. To stop complaining and realise how better off we are than our ancestors. On all sides. Even the English suffered terribly and were beholden to oppressive controlling regimes. Fought many wars and was taken captive by Nordica,Norman's and so many other conquests. Ireland and Scotland,India, Africa, Madagascar, Europe, The Americas, Spanish invasion,Alexander the Great, Ceasar, Israel...on and on...Who is without invasion?? We are what we are today..Without stupidity of Open Borders!!
I don’t think it is from Jacinda “enabling” them at all Shane, so much as them standing up to the nonsense from the current govt. I don’t doubt that TUF and co would take major offence to the current govt
Amazing to find Shane on a right platform< i bet they were hanging onto your every word> Māori never ceded sovereignty > My support TPM it is about time we had a indigenous political party that has a Māori perspective>
The Revitalisation of Te Reo Maori since the 1980’s has spurred the Kohanga Reo, Kura Kaupapa generation. These are the future of not only the Maori Party but of New Zealand.. 1 in 3 New Zealanders under the age of 25 identify as Maori. They as well as Pacifica are reproducing more than any other ethnicity in the Country.. Moumou to toto Maori Shame, Moumou to toto Maori.
@@korocam9137 You get your stats out of a Weet-bix box deary? "1 in 3", well I see you did include the word "identify", so that gives you a pretty good imaginary margin to play with aye girl?
It's not about toto tho it's about the future direction of this country the disparity between working & unemployed is way to big it's beyond embarrassing the gap between the ruling class & underclass has gotten worse this country has been getting sold from under our feet for to long now if we want to protect it & all it's goodness we need to listen to each other more it is happening at the expense of our mokopuna to many Maori now are in the prisons. I am a Mana Motuhake supporter ex Kohanga now taking up a PHD but I'm not a fan of some of the rhetoric TPM are selling it actually gets our ppl off side more so activism has its time & place but let's face it most of those taiohi are unemployed they are really pawns also & lack education & experience to do better for themselves. Alot of the hippie liberal supporters have spent more time isolated from their papa kainga there's to much politicizing of victimimhood rhetoric we need more pragmatism and experience from our Maori leaders they are utilizing their visual and social platforms for the party vote they need to slow down here & be more reflective real change starts with our selves and as we know the Maori vote 🗳 is divided more so now as TPM is tailored to the style of leadership which is more attractive to iwi hapu leaders and our kohanga Maori speaking generations.
Yeah but it’s a nonsense way of cataloging people because anyone can be Māori provided they have a tiny percentage of Maori heritage Reality is if we did it properly and we identified people by their predominant heritage according to dna then it’d be a whole different story
Luxton said he was not going to tinker with the Treaty. Then today tinker bell is excluding Maori from Pharmac? Thats not just tinker thats sneakily trying to set a precedance. If the remove Maori from one dept it is a slippery slope for Maoru and Pakeha alike. He said it is very minor. Only a footnote. Really? Maori have heard it all before. This is why Maori will protest on mass. Thats why they were all told at Waitangi dont touch the treaty. Shayne, winston , luxton all gave assurances to Maori. The tail is wagging the old dogs.
I think you've missed the point. They haven't "excluded Maori from Pharmac", they're focusing funding on drugs that will benefit everyone in NZ equally. Why should one race be prioritised? The treaty was designed with ALL New Zealanders in mind, not just to benefit one race. We all call New Zealand home and should all have equal rights & privileges. One rule for everyone, one NZ.
@@imaginelf22that garbage & is a sign of someone historically illiterate. The Treaty only made guarantees to Maori that the British crown will bring its citizens living in NZ to heel because of their lawless behavior. That sentiment changed when their numbers grew & illegally enacted the 1852 constitution Act creating a parliament for Pakeha only, than wide Maoriland confiscation took place decimating significantly already dwindling maori populations.
Brilliant, the more I listen to Mr Jones the more I’ve started to respect him, or more to the point understand him, New Zealand First, and what they are wanting to achieve for ALL New Zealanders.
Love this guy lots of guts and sensible.hope he stays tough
When are we as a country going to realise that New Zealand First is the only Party whose policies follow their party name. Mr Shane and Sir Winnie by far the best qualified to bring about and lead a united New Zealand. Much respect and support Shane.
Half breed's the leader's for landless diffrent cultured people & speaker's for FULL BLOODED MAORI 😂😂😂
YOU DIDN'T LIKE THE TRUTH 😂😂😂
@@turangatohiariki3042 You believe in Santa
@@turangatohiariki3042 your truth?....
Yea Labour had completely sold the country out and I think Luxon would do the same NZ 1st has my vote everytime now and I believe they will go from strength to strength as they should in a sane world
Claiming oppression and victimhood is the easy alternative to taking self-responsibility for one’s failures. Labour shamelessly fed and encouraged the former and was willing to flush the whole country down the toilet in the process. It still remains to be seen whether they succeeded or not.
Absolutely agree with Shane.
I like what Shane is saying here! I think the worst action you can do for any people who are a minority is to play the victim card!! My future is determined by the actions and decisions I take, no one else! My Father taught me to respect others and demand it back! I live by those values, I think that is what Shane is talking about!!!
My Father taught me to tolerate others and to demand it back. Those who would demand my respect are the least likely to receive it.
@@petereade4936 A wee bit muddled up there pete?
@@petereade4936 BRO I think you missed my point and Shane's! It is about Integrity, your own integrity, important with this is taking responsibility rather than blaming everyone else for your problems! Shane is calling this, 'playing the victim card'.
I don't know where to start...My Mum was part Māori, my Dad was part German...So according to the Māori party half of me is OK and the other half is a Genocidal Maniac???. So I am confused, should I characterize myself as a Mud Blood, Blood Traitor or what? Well all my life and I now am 68 years old, I have thought of myself as a KIWI. I really have not got the talent for rhetoric like Mr Jones et al, they are saying things that I am sure all New Zealanders who have a brain, myself included 100% agree with and should have been said a long time ago...Keep up the good work Mr Peters and Mr Jones...
Thank God for you Shane and Winston! Wherever you are in the world colour is a problem!!
Thank you, sir, for your wise words🙏
Martin Luther King jnr had it spot on ,we need to judge by a persons character not the colour of the skin. Good one Shane.
Shes actually white which cracks me up
Respect to wonderful members of NZ First 🙏👍❤️
Great work Shane 😅
But What is he actually doing!!
@@DW_Kiwi He just told you, "Great work Shane".
Keep up the great work mr shane jones tou will be getting my vote next election. We need someone who has a little teump in them to stand up and fight this racist activist BS.
You might mean the part Maori party 😂😂😂
Whining Maori Party
The Maori electoral roll, lower marks to get into med school, breaking charities law without consequences, going to the front of the line in hospital emergency departments, exclusive spaces in universities, jobs in mainstream TV, Maori TV station, what rot, could Maori have more opportunities or be more pampered ?
What a load of bollocks you are spewing, Omg your remarks are what make it divisive.
I am proud Maori, I stand and wait in line like everyone else, everything I have I work bludy hard for without the non existent handouts that you are implying (this historical attitude makes me so angry and sad) I've never gotten anything more or less than you do or any other NZer and I don't know of anyone who does so keep your stupid false beliefs to yourself unless you have some actual hard facts to share because I would be very interested to know where this happens and not the lies you've sadly learned from someone just as misinformed as you.Gawd.
It's called racism.
@@darrellsimpson6966 yes, it comes in all shades.
Forgot to add, not only exclusive spaces at universities but free. If the pass each year the following year is free. Quite sickening if you think of this as they could become anything they want without having to start work with a massive student loan. Now the question is how many succeed, hardly any, why? because they are not paying - so fail the first year, lose the privilege and drop out.
Go Shane!!!!!!(!!!!!
Debbie should be prosecuted or sued for those comments, is our race relations mediator asleep or does the mediator support the Maori party comments ? - it must be one or the other
John Tamehire’s puppets.
JT has his eyes on the jackpot.
Brilliant as always
He’s brilliant
When I was in New Zealand recently I met a lot of Maori. They were all busy making money. None complained about any white supremacy.
Sadly this ideology has stemmed back to Marae, and alot of us are now being alienated because we don't support the ideology of the Maori Party....
Yes, I've also heard that. It's very distressing that some are taking this ridiculous ideology back to their Marae. The vast majority of Maori don't support this TPM nonsense.
Know your history
@@kingdavid3066 Which is the history of the world from day one.
Wow that's heavy can you explain more of what is being promoted? I'm seriously keen to know as I have never been to any event on a Marae and have little idea what they teach there. I think it used to be Tikanga Christianity mainly but turned more Pagan? Are you a Christian?
@StGammon77 it's political ideology, there is enough politics in marae, religion is not the issue
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire.
Thank you Shane Jones from a scared Pakeha from Oamaru!
As a child growing up with my Maori cousins, Maori school mates I am today saddened by the hate and the overarching desire to open wounds that healed more than a century in the past. These wounds will only get infected and give rise to a need for amputation. I would hate to see that happen as I am very proud of my family, all of them.
I think the general public are well aware of the several maori cultures on offer to their spawn
She uttered the usual inflammatory, dishonest and vile garbage, 'tis all.
This Māori woman must be related to Lydia Thorpe in Australia!
🤣🤣🤣
Shane you have a lot of Trump in you 👏👏😹 just love listening to you thank you and NZF…
Maori party are the biggest hypocrites. They are not for all Maori.
Hey are only part Maori anyway so they can f up 😅. Is there any full blood Maori left???? I call them the part Maori party 😂😂😂😂
Whinging bitching grievance mob..want want want..
@@barryhedley9995 and they don't share with their own people further down the socio economic ladder.
There was another bloke back in the day who believed in pure blood.
and we know what happened to him.
@@november50 and the rest of society
No Māori in this world have pure Māori blood.
Come on national, dont let nz down again. Get rid of all special laws etc only available to part maori people in nz. One person one vote. When maori have over the last 50 uears have negotiated with the crown, the crown obviously have not represented nonmaori nzers. These usually misguided beaurocrats have only represented the crown to the great detriment of all non maori and the future of NZ
Good on ya Shane Jones. Down with the awful Jacinda Ardern and her authoritarian divisive regime.! May we never see her like rise up again !
Schroedinger's maori, strong and independent when it suits them and a victim at the same time, depending on which gives them the most money.
Her words are obviously false.
Funny how they can celebrate thebgrowth of the maori population now standing at 1 million and growing yet argue about a genocide against us
She's projecting cos she is in bed with arden - total hypocrisy and disgraceful. Love to All humanity!! Maori sisters and brothers and All NZers 💚
So basically all New Zealanders ?
Or are you putting Maori as a separate category ?
Because that’s the problem.
Anyone who is living in NZ are considered kiwis.
This M.P. And his party should do the right thing and stand down no room in n.z. For this kind of talk.
Maori has a rebellious center...and bringing them back into line is a beautiful thing
I watched an interveiw in the US between Jacinda Ardern and an internet journalist. He asked Jacinda " are you dividing NZ ,She laughed and said yes." This was while she was prime minister. The media was silent. I am not sure whether it has been taken down like the photo of Jacinda in her communist uniform
Native tribal life disappeared it was their choice to abandon what little remained after Jesus came to town.
Class up this fella
Comment removed. No swearing or sarcasm that might hurt anyone's feelings. What the hell !
The radical maori party are so boring, so boring.
Debt is enslavement by method of inflation.
TPM It's a Bullying I'm of Maori/Anglo Saxon
Decent..
@Keepitsimple183 I've been a member since the MP began planning to organize themselves 2003. It's the only Party that values what is important to me. It is the only choice l have to deliver outcomes that align with my needs and expectations. No other political party can do that for me. I support the values of the Green Party in terms of the longevity of our planet, and until the MP arrived, l voted Labour
@@rlckirionarc MMP.
The Greens and Labor are a lost causes at this stage. There's idealism, and then there's reality. Knowing the difference is helpful.
With the Green MP's, we've had a Green MP bully in Parliament standing over a member of another party and screaming in his face. Then there was another MP who was the 'justice' spokesperson who has been 'convicted' of shop lifting. Now there's another who is embroiled in 'allegations' of 'migrant worker exploitation'.
Prior to this, James Shaw, the ex co-leader of the Green party had lied on his Linked-in profile about his qualifications(you don't forget that), and the earlier leader of the Green party, Tariana Turei, had resigned due to having signed a document fraudulently.
Are those 'values' important to you? Do they align with your 'needs' and 'expectations'?
Between Labor and the Greens, despite 48.4% of NZ voting to 'legalize' cannabis, they couldn't even 'decriminalize' it.
I used to vote Labor or Green, for many years. 'Never again'.
@@rlckirionarc MMP.
The Greens and Labor are a lost causes at this stage. There's idealism, and then there's reality. Knowing the difference is helpful.
With the Green MP's, we've had a Green MP bully in Parliament standing over a member of another party and screaming in his face. Then there was another MP who was the 'justice' spokesperson who has been 'convicted' of shop lifting. Now there's another who is embroiled in 'allegations' of 'migrant worker exploitation'.
Prior to this, James Shaw, the ex co-leader of the Green party had lied on his Linked-in profile about his qualifications(you don't forget that), and the earlier leader of the Green party, Tariana Turei, had resigned due to having signed a document fraudulently.
Are those 'values' important to you? Do they align with your 'needs' and 'expectations'?
Between Labor and the Greens, despite 48.4% of NZ voting to 'legalize' cannabis, they couldn't even 'decriminalize' it.
I used to vote Labor or Green, for many years. 'Never again'.
TPM leadership treat governance as an extractive industry. Representation is to prepare the ground to extract maximum resources with minimal regard to the health of the body politic.
Thank you mr Jones. 👍😐
The human rights commission only deals with all things that don't include anything to do with Maori anything that is said about Maori they completely disregard.
Unbelievable give all us New Zealands a break take a holiday or take retirement,
What did I learn? Shane loves Harry Potter.
..Well, the original justification for the Maori Seats disappeared in 1879. Successive Governments have had the opportunity to abolish the Maori seats, now they are in the hands of the wreckers and the haters . Let's see what happens when TPM holds the balance of power in '26..
When are we going to hear the end of poor me and Im poor because of someone else. give it a rest, we all have red blood, two eyes, two hands and a brain to think with. Lease race out of it and accept that maori are not special, they are not indigenous and the only genocide was maori killing the peoples in NZ that were here before them. Stop twisting history, it's the Emperors Clothes.
Just a few of the many thoughts which are coming to me over recent times on this issue....
1) How many people in NZ are Maori? (and are ANY of them pure 100% Maori?)
2) How many people IDENTIFY as Maori?
3) How many people are on the Maori electoral roll?
4) What should be the definitive way to fix someone's cultural identity? ie "What IS a Maori?"
5) Do all Maori / those who identify as Maori speak with one voice?
6) Who is REALLY leading/driving this new wave of Maorification?
7) How many Maori (or non-Maori) want them to be identified as a separate nationality?
8) And thus, should they have separate governance and all other social, political and economic infrastructure?
9) How would that work and interact with the rest of non-Maori NZ?
10) Should all Maori resettle and live in ONE specific region of 'NZ' (and have a separate nationality, globally recognised)?
11) Should there be a referendum (on the above)?
12) Should we officially make the only language of NZ English, or become 'officially' (by referendum) a 2-language nation, like in Canada?
......etc etc etc.....
Some very good questions, which would not be asked in any NZ main stream media, which, has played a significant role in the adoption of false dichotomies.
Often times, when Maori are the alleged 'victims', then we know their ethnicity. But when they are the perpetrators, for some odd reason, that element is missing. I refer to 'reports' in the media.
If someone identifies as Maori(fair enough) but genetically speaking they are 65% non Maori, how does that factor distort the data as it were? You know, sociological phenomena.
Furthermore, if you do identify as Maori, this confers upon you rights and privileges above and beyond the general population. Hardly equality, under the law or otherwise.
@martingray6275 I wouldn't copy Canada on any level!! Except maple syrup and that's non political.
@magingi Thanks to woke ideology anyone can identify as anyone. So goodbye to data and True facts. They all choose fantasies. So as long as they realize they've made a mockery out of civilization and all our ancestors have been through,on all sides!! Irish, Maori,Scottish,Chinese, English, all have suffered and all have gained. It will not end well for those who follow this ideolgy path and why take the country to ransom and those who choose not to rebel against Gods ways. The writing is on the wall. Be content with what We have not complaining except against evil.
Shane ,shame to be Maori
@@tamaashford7196 no, it's a shame to be a racist, whining for more money and mollycoddling. But aggressive and violent "warriors" when it suits them. At least Shane doesn't embrace a victimhood hierarchy. He wants Maori to be competent and proud not victims.
Link to Tame’s Q&A interview?
Maori party won’t come on here because you won’t listen anyway. Goes in one ear and out the other. If Maori party are acting out of hand then why’s Hawaii, Tahiti and New Caledonia going thru the same thing doing the exact same thing. Even native indigenous Indians in America are seeing what’s happening in Aotearoa. Disgraceful government hopefully get booted out.
Shane doesn’t speak for Māori, he’s saying what non Māori want to hear. My parents who have moved on to Heaven, didn’t hate Pakeha, neither do I or my children and grandchildren but we all have a common belief and history supports us, that this land belongs to us and it was stolen from us and it is coming back to us just like India’s rule returned to the indigenous of that land. To conclude, karma has a way of righting the wrongs and we aren’t going anywhere (except Australia haha 😅) and when the Worst Recession, worse than 1929 hits, and all of you non Māori go broke, we will still be here, because we’ve been in recession for over 180 years and the honeymoon is over for you.😅
Stop calling it mainstream. No one under 40 is watching any of that shit.
Miss identifying any cause doesn't help either.
Maori party is like the American B.L.M
We are a country of peace then why did jucinda put sansations on ukraine big bad move from nz
Why were maori soldiers not gifted lands for farming after ww2 yet pakeha soldiers were.?
wrong...prove please..
Ww1 soldiers were given a money grant to purchase land in a desegnatid area. WW2 vets were helped into work..why would Maori WW2 vets be treated any diferently.
@@tuma420wc8 maybe some of the Maori batt. were already part owners of Maori land...considered that?
They volunteered to fight for whites. Dont feel sorry for em if they got shafted. My Gramps had a Vietnam vet for a neighbour in the old people flats. He clearly had nothing to show for it too.
@@user-vr2ri8bs9w 500.000 acres of Maori land for soldier settlement was given to be for all soldiers by the time Westmoreland arrived in Auckland a year later another 600.000 was given. Almost all this land was settled by pakehas. Educate yourself
3:57sec he stops ranting...
Man, this guy needs to get conversant with land events.
When Some Maori Acknowledged and signed the Treaty, about 2000 Europeans occupied Aotearoa and roughly 200 000 Maori lived here.The Minority white settlers sought protection for their ways of life from the Maori majority Through laws and Governance.less than 200 years later the boot is on the other Foot ,The Many are now the few and find themselves in the same Situation,Using the Laws and Government Legislation to protect their way and Identity.The Irony is thick but the understanding is ignored.For Maori who have despised the Colonial and Cultural Ignorance of the European Political System Are now Purveyors of very system they say has imprisoned them.If you cant beat them join them aye Cuzzy.The fact is we exist in a multi Cultural World, but thats does not mean we cant live as Maori .There is one Race and it is not "First Past the Post" it is Humanity!!!
Utter Nonsense
@@user-wu8mp9ue1g your correct uttering makes no sense.
Bullshit
Te Putty Te Kaka !! NZ First MAORI ARE GREAT AGAIN !!
For goodness sake how many years have you lived in New Zealand, Aotearoa and you can’t pronounce Māori words ?
And Shame Jones lives mistaking arrogance for mana.
The treatment they have had with colonisation and the years that followed until present day they have a right to what you call victimhood.
@annebayne-wr2qy If you look at history nearly every nation has been colonised, taken over or rambunctiously theived off somebody. Life is full of parodies. Personal or National ones. And yes there are injustices, and awful bloodshed but what's important now is what we do to survive and live life the best way we can..taking nothing for granted and thanking God for our privileges and blessings with what time we've got left. To stop complaining and realise how better off we are than our ancestors. On all sides.
Even the English suffered terribly and were beholden to oppressive controlling regimes. Fought many wars and was taken captive by Nordica,Norman's and so many other conquests. Ireland and Scotland,India, Africa, Madagascar, Europe, The Americas, Spanish invasion,Alexander the Great, Ceasar, Israel...on and on...Who is without invasion?? We are what we are today..Without stupidity of Open Borders!!
😂
Go for a sleep ow koro you tired
I don’t think it is from Jacinda “enabling” them at all Shane, so much as them standing up to the nonsense from the current govt. I don’t doubt that TUF and co would take major offence to the current govt
Shane Jones we'll see if you're thinking and opinions survive in the Parliament next election. Likely not!
Dream on
I agree with what Jones says in the caption, but I still wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.
@@eddieedmondson7698 No-one cares Edward.
@@GaryPeters-nv8pj About?
Amazing to find Shane on a right platform< i bet they were hanging onto your every word> Māori never ceded sovereignty > My support TPM it is about time we had a indigenous political party that has a Māori perspective>
One person, one vote , one country, or we’ll never go forward as a country,!!!😮
Nice username bot
TPM must be on the right track to keep doing what they are doing. Otherwise, why is Shame Jones so hurt and upset?
Same logic could be applied to why TePati Māori rhetoric
This government must be on to something right
The Revitalisation of Te Reo Maori since the 1980’s has spurred the Kohanga Reo, Kura Kaupapa generation. These are the future of not only the Maori Party but of New Zealand.. 1 in 3 New Zealanders under the age of 25 identify as Maori. They as well as Pacifica are reproducing more than any other ethnicity in the Country.. Moumou to toto Maori Shame, Moumou to toto Maori.
@@korocam9137 You get your stats out of a Weet-bix box deary? "1 in 3", well I see you did include the word "identify", so that gives you a pretty good imaginary margin to play with aye girl?
It's not about toto tho it's about the future direction of this country the disparity between working & unemployed is way to big it's beyond embarrassing the gap between the ruling class & underclass has gotten worse this country has been getting sold from under our feet for to long now if we want to protect it & all it's goodness we need to listen to each other more it is happening at the expense of our mokopuna to many Maori now are in the prisons. I am a Mana Motuhake supporter ex Kohanga now taking up a PHD but I'm not a fan of some of the rhetoric TPM are selling it actually gets our ppl off side more so activism has its time & place but let's face it most of those taiohi are unemployed they are really pawns also & lack education & experience to do better for themselves. Alot of the hippie liberal supporters have spent more time isolated from their papa kainga there's to much politicizing of victimimhood rhetoric we need more pragmatism and experience from our Maori leaders they are utilizing their visual and social platforms for the party vote they need to slow down here & be more reflective real change starts with our selves and as we know the Maori vote 🗳 is divided more so now as TPM is tailored to the style of leadership which is more attractive to iwi hapu leaders and our kohanga Maori speaking generations.
@@GaryPeters-nv8pj census information is easily accessible online.
@@toakasi6425 Nga mihi aroha mo to Korero e hoa.
Yeah but it’s a nonsense way of cataloging people because anyone can be Māori provided they have a tiny percentage of Maori heritage
Reality is if we did it properly and we identified people by their predominant heritage according to dna then it’d be a whole different story
Luxton said he was not going to tinker with the Treaty. Then today tinker bell is excluding Maori from Pharmac? Thats not just tinker thats sneakily trying to set a precedance. If the remove Maori from one dept it is a slippery slope for Maoru and Pakeha alike.
He said it is very minor. Only a footnote. Really? Maori have heard it all before. This is why Maori will protest on mass. Thats why they were all told at Waitangi dont touch the treaty. Shayne, winston , luxton all gave assurances to Maori. The tail is wagging the old dogs.
Kapai your comment hit the nail Te Tiriti lest to 4get only comment making commonsense
I think you've missed the point. They haven't "excluded Maori from Pharmac", they're focusing funding on drugs that will benefit everyone in NZ equally. Why should one race be prioritised? The treaty was designed with ALL New Zealanders in mind, not just to benefit one race. We all call New Zealand home and should all have equal rights & privileges. One rule for everyone, one NZ.
They're funding for all Humans, are you insinuating Maori aren't Humans?
@@imaginelf22that garbage & is a sign of someone historically illiterate. The Treaty only made guarantees to Maori that the British crown will bring its citizens living in NZ to heel because of their lawless behavior. That sentiment changed when their numbers grew & illegally enacted the 1852 constitution Act creating a parliament for Pakeha only, than wide Maoriland confiscation took place decimating significantly already dwindling maori populations.
@@imaginelf22 100% correct Maori have not been and are not being excluded from anything
Poaka Jones koretake korero pakeha tutai kuri! Hoi hoi enoho! Huri huri huri huri tutai kuri!
What?
Muppet
Oh no, 30 people are mad at me 😂 just an angry minority with loud voices.