EXCLUSIVE: Four interviews, four new things you'll learn about the 8 Passengers case
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- Ivins, Utah was put under a microscope following a child abuse case that garnered worldwide attention. When EMTs, paramedics and firefighters responded to the call on August 30, 2023, they weren’t sure what to expect.
“I think we just get the hand that we’re dealt and we show up and we do are job no matter what cards those are,” said Maddee Ickes with Santa Clara-Ivins Fire & Rescue. Ickes, at the time was an EMT still in paramedic school. “There was a lot more depth to the call then kind of what I had imagined.”
Ickes was one of the first emergency responders to reach ‘R’, Ruby Franke’s son who courageously called for help at a neighbors home.
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That 60 page journal should bring charges of attempted murder. Ruby needs to be put away for life.
Agree completely 💯
I totally agree, better yet, i think they should get done to them as what they did to their children, every bit of it and see if they still think they are innocent. i thought she was getting 30 yrs, but 15....what??? are you fricken kidding me? and out on good behavior, prob serve 10 yrs. i hope those kids never speak to her again, cuz she will be out and still young. i am sick about this. yes they should have life. looks like Jodi never missed a meal....plus she ate the kids meals...as fat as she was. so sad
I agree too because if they did not get caught I have a funny feeling one of the children would have ended up deceased.
Life is too much. 100 years is enough
I'm filled with so much disgust and rage that a mother could allow this to take place and even play a role in her own children's attempted murder /physical abuse . My heart goes out to this family and anyone affected by this . God be with you all .
Please find out which public officials would not give the search warrant every time Shari Franke called. Don’t stop reporting now. These children were being abused and neglected for a very long time. Getting a search warrant to check on children should be the lowest possible threshold.
Ruby and Jodi were very influential people in that community. They were making millions.
Unfortunately this happens a lot in all states.Many abused kids just fall under the radar.
@@denisehall4818this is Utah though! The entire state government is run by the cult/ church
Mormon White,Rich in Utah 😈😈😈
It’s typical Utah crap. Mormon country
The fact that R went to get help showed that he still had faith in humanity despite what his own mother did to him.
He went to turn himself in he was convinced he had no other recourse, he was broken his Mother had mentally broken him to the point he felt he was to blame, his Mother kept telling him to repent or be sent to JAIL and he opted for jail, that why he said to the neighbor to please take him to nearest police station and it was "personal business" bless his little broken heart.
His bravery and wherewithal to get help despite what had been done to him shows a constitution beyond. So glad they were able to be rescued. Those two monsters need max punishment!
the divine spark that we all have (and which no man-made religion owns) will always pull us through the darkest night - I am so proud of this little guy, that he listened to his survival instincts and made it through hell
All the parents who have been in connexions need to be investigated.
And the Mormon bishops that recommended Jodi to their church members.
And all the other “therapists” who use her “modalities”. They accuse children of self-pleasuring before they even know what it is, and think Satan is responsible for wet dreams. There are thousands of children being brought up with these cult beliefs in Utah & Idaho.
Many other families were also torn apart by Jodi and her teachings, some were even banned form their church and lost their job because Jodi broke comfidentiality and told them details of what they said in her "therapy", making it sound like they were all se*ual perverts and molesters.
When the people "investigating" are involved, there is no point.
@@JeantheSecond-ip7qm💯💯
Kevin should not get custody. He was only interested in how his child abusing wife was doing. He is just as sick as her! The only reason Ruby is regretful is because she was caught!
I think he's worse. I think Jodi, Ruby and Kevin all were involved. Kevin left to establish plausible deniability. He's a cuck he likes men and women pawing at his wife.
I can picture Ruby going out and desperately flirting with the neighbors(who were showing her pity) while Kevin is inside watching from the window and touching himself.
Where are those children staying? Are they receiving any kind of medical/psychiatric treatment? I haven't been able to find any updates for some reason...
@@user-ez6nz2ck8d You're not going to unless the children themselves and the guardians want that information out. Only thing you can do is hope they are alright.
As far as I'm concerned he was involved.
@@user-ez6nz2ck8dThey’re in custody of the state, which means that they’re probably living in foster care and getting mandatory medical/psychological treatment.
Ruby hasn't changed. She just knows how to manipulate & play the game. She was mentally messed up long before Jodi. Check the documented timeline of everything before assuming she's sorry.
Thats so true
Absolutely. You can just see in her eyes in the video where they get her at the police station for the first time and it is haunting. She isn't sorry in the slightest, and you can tell she's calculating everything she's doing, and now she finds it advantageous to throw Jodi under the bus and claim she's a victim of that, just like her husband is claiming he was just a victim of Jodi too. She'll do anything to try to absolve herself of HER insanity.
Yes. First she’s done nothing wrong, then she was fighting evil, then finally it’s Jodis fault.
DEMONIC, EVIL people....both of them....lost souls....
I think deep down Ruby thinks she's a bad person. Rather than deal with her own pain she projected all her fear and rage onto her children. Since she doesn't have power with herself she demands to have control of her children. Being in therapy because you think you're a bad person takes years and years of hard work. As long as she believes she is bad (and now she really is) she will be a danger. That's just my opinion, speaking from personal experience.
The neighbor said”we know there’s been problems at this neighbor house”. Wonder what things they heard??? He needs to be interviewed
Mormoms protect other Mormons, it’s a sickening cult
Neighbours of their family home in Springville said they saw the kids wandring outside on the street, not wearing shoes, sometimes knocking on doors asking to play with their kids (who were at school). Idk about the neighbours in Ivins though, maybe they're not open to the public for witness protection reasons.
@jgr_lilli_ IIRC that happend in their family home, not at Jodi's place.
Russel and Eve had been pulled out of school a long time ago and were roaming around the neighborhood, asking for playmates that were all at school at that time.
Jodi lived somewhat "exclusive" with few families around.
But I think I read somewhere that there was always a lot of noise from the kids when they were outside and that they were spotted without shoes etc in extreme weather conditions.
Ah, see I mixed that up! Will edit my comment!
They spotted the kids weeding and doing chores without shoes in 100°+ weather. They called CPS a number of times, but cps did nothing.
Apparently Ruby had more or less already abandoned the kids back in springville. She would leave them for weeks at a time, while she visited Jodi in Ivan’s for their cult endeavors. Once the springville neighbors started calling cps, she brought them to Ivan’s in order to “fix them.”
They definitely would have ended up deceased. Jodie was giving her an out of motherhood, filling her head with cult grandiosity.
Really emotional seeing the sweet paramedic be emotional, and speak about him so kindly and caringly, like a real mother would.
Every time I see a video of her, I’m always so grateful it was her who arrived on the scene. They needed to see and be around a loving woman. I bet it was the exact person those children needed in that moment.
Reminds me of how much variety of shocks and horrors that first responders can face over their careers.
@@madisonhartwick8114 also the woman in the house where R got to. and the man. just loving and caring people were what he needed!
Yes❤❤
What is really sick with Jodi is how she blames R for the wounds he had. They didn’t give him those wounds she says-he did that to himself because he wouldn’t stop moving around-after they hogtied him with rope and metal handcuffs. 🤬😢
Wow the delusion she has. It’s amazing how she blames her son and not herself. I can’t believe there are people like that in the world.
If you look into what "Conexxions" was really about, it was basically pseudo-psychology that let Jodi attack people and then blame her victims for their pain.
😢😢😢. My gosh, I hope these children can heal.
Pretty typical of them to blame everyone else. I used to watch some videos from Connexions out of curiosity....there were people calling for parental advice. Ruby and Jodi would ALWAYS blame the victim
@@xxBelieber97xx Connexions was entirely about victim blaming, and Jodi blaming the pain she caused people entirely on the victim too.
They both need life sentences. You think they're going to change being evil?
Whatever is in them, will never leave. They're a danger to society. I hope these children are far away from their relatives and church. They failed them big time. Shame on them!!
You can't change evil.....
They will never change. They put this changed persona act infront of the judge but listening to their phone calls shows who they really are.
Their lack of empathy enabled these two women to torture these children without any guilt or remorse and creepily with a bit of enjoyment at their discomfort.
I don’t believe that an adult can develop a sense of empathy, their lack of one is permanent so those two will always be a danger to society, whether a child, a weak or elderly or handicapped adult.
They can pretend remorse but it is just an act to get less prison time or some perk or support. Sociopaths do not change.
In Australia we call people like this, far gone beauts. In the UK they call them doo lally tap. There is nothing that can be done to change them.
Little Man R is the bravest and strongest hero ever and sweet little E is too. They resisted all along and were not broken. May they know love, peace and contentment💙
may they know true peace and real love
When it comes to Ruby, I think it's all for show. This goes way back before Jodi, and it's all documented right there on 8 passengers. She knew exactly what she was doing, and I think she should get the full 30 years.
I agree..
She should get more time because she is their Mother Jody isn’t ..
It’s Ruby, who is the manipulator as she stood there in court prior to sentencing … claiming she was manipulated… Meanwhile, we saw the journals, and this goes way back.
I believe that Jody is just a sick woman, and really believes what she says .
At the end of the day, Ruby abused her children, got her husband out of the house, kept her husband from their kids, with manipulating the husband to get the cars in her name, and was working on getting the house in her name.. therefore she’s not only abusing her kids she’s money hungry.
@janicedevereux2839 You nailed it. I say that too. Those are her children. She was supposed to protect them at all costs. She committed the ultimate betrayal. I understand why they offered a plea deal, so the kids wouldn't have to testify, but at the same time, life without parole would have been perfect justice.
@@msotrfan1 yes, it does the kids to testify, but I believe their decisions was self serving…
To have a trial, the world was going to know the details of what they did .
Unbeknownst to them when they were sentenced, they probably had no idea that those journals would become public .
@@janicedevereux2839. I thought I heard the house was Jodie’s.
IMO 30 is too soft of a sentence.
Franke complaining about how tight the cufffs were was literally disgusting I guess they should have put plastic and duct tape first like she did to her child.
That was Jodi complaining, not Ruby
Pray that ruby gets prison justice for what she did for her own children. Oh it’s coming can’t wait
Kevin Franke and Pam Bodtcher need to face charges now.
YES!!!!! Kevin claims he didn’t know what was going on but, he was there when the oldest son was sleeping on a bean bag, when the 6 yr old forgot her lunch and Ruby refused to take her food or let the teacher give her any food. Kevin was there and could have stopped Ruby.
Pam is President of that looney bin company 'Connexions'
I was always worried about the youngest of the siblings. That little boy always had dark circles around his eyes as if he was sleep deprived and malnourished. And the two youngest girls were always anxiety ridden, blinking nervously and had the faces of complete heartbreak every time they were in front of a camera.
How this went from abuse to repeated attempted murder…the entire case shocks the senses.
Don't be fooled. Ruby was abusive to her older children too (often involving withholding food) long before Jodi became a part of her life ... she just sees that passing the blame will get her off more quickly. The evil upon the Franke family is due to Ruby and Kevin ... the children are innocent and have been begging police and CPS for years. Please don't stop digging for the truth because it would be an injustice to "R".
She was never really all there.
No, Ruby was abusive towards the younger children not the older children
@@user-kr7nc6sb3xI'm talking of 8 Passengers days, she has always used food against all the kids ... the 2 older minors I don't know much about their situation, but the oldest 2 had it bad too ... definitely not as bad as R and E but still abusive.
It’s bizarre that Jodi states “we can’t even raise our kids any longer”…….they are NOT HER kids……bizarre….was she in love with Ruby or placed by her church to do this crap? Jodi’s counseling was not normal, even marriage counseling was very unethical….which we all know their church does this crud. Ruby stated ….. the devil has been chasing her for years……nope the devil caught her years ago
I honestly think that Jody and ruby were lovers.
I always thought Jodi and Ruby were more than just business partners. Maybe that’s why the husband was ‘invited’ to leave.
Oh my goodness, that would make so much sense... Why she wanted to get the husband out of the picture...
@@stevemccann4166
Ruby told her husband Kevin Frankie again and again and again
That He WAS Evil and He had the Devil in him too stuff like that so much so that she Mentally tore him down too no wonder Kevin Left Her. Ruby’s clearly Insane
but him leaving the family And NOT Taking his Own Children to safety Shows how awful she was and Kevin not even Notifying the police when HE Knew His kids were in trouble he’s in the Videos people have Re-uploaded from her channel ,
( 8 Passengers ) that Once was on CZcams which
the channel was removed
But people saved video Clips And the kids Told
the school and
St. George police and
( for 2 Years the kids were saying they were being abused and saying things were going on at home
- The school , Cps ( Child protective services )
&
the Police didn’t Believe the allegations the kids were saying )
then and the School , the other police and Cps All
Did nothing To help
The kids ) and they had
to go through Even More Abuse and trauma for
2 more Years until the boy escaped the handcuffs and thank god he got away from Jodi. and he ran to a Neighbors house For help no one was home at the first house
so he Went to another house
- and that’s when you
hear the older Guy on the phone talking to the 911 operator who then sent out the
2 officers and The Paramedics to Help the
12 year old he was so Skinny sitting on that Ambulance gurney
- from police footage both Children are So Emaciated from Starvation. By Ruby
After the police arrested Ruby said - this is a witchHunt and The Devil himself is after me ) and that the Devil has been after her for years the looks like the Devil has finally got her )
She’s Insane Maybe Ruby should be sentenced to the State mental hospital instead
a Teacher who called Ruby From the School
once , the teacher saying Rubys daughter Eve ( E ) the Youngest kid the Daughter was like 5 Years old and Ruby did at one point have her daughter ( E ) on PediaSure a kids protein drink to help
her gain weight Because
Rubys youngest little Girl WAS
The SAME SIZE for 1 whole year ! How did that not Register with kids Dr
not growing & not gaining weight in a otherwise Healthy child ? Children who Are Abused and Neglected like these kids were - they don’t grow or gain weight that may indicate Neglect if
a child doesn’t feel safe enough Their body will stop producing the growth hormone needed for Developing and growing
, It was that bad for the kids.
But Ruby wasn’t Allowing E to have a School Luch either did that teacher Starve Her Kid unknowingly. ?
Because her mom said she didn’t make her own lunch? So she couldn’t be allowed to have a
school lunch I Don’t know nothings been mentioned about that yet ?
but I’m sure ALL Those who know that family Teachers Drs , Will all
feel horrible about hearing about the horrible the conditions really were for them. 😢
As this video shows they arrested Jodi
And they found E in the Closet and
It took 2 officers
4 hours
to try and get ( E ) to Feel save enough to Leave the closet She hardly Spoke a Word to them they were so kind to her Playing music Gently saying THAT They won’t hurt her and they won’t let anyone hurt her again 😢 they found eve
in the closet With her hair All chopped off the girl in the pink shirt sitting in the closet. 😢 poor Eve
Do you want us to carry you ? It’s ok
They said
she was so traumatized she sat on the floor and she hardly spoke at all to the officers who played music for her and who got her Fast Food who were finally there to help rescue her. And her family
That was my first thought before I even heard about the details of this case. Just the body language of Jodi and the fact that they’re staying at the same house
DO NOT LET THESE CHILDREN LIVE WITH KEVIN!!!! HE KNEW THEY WERE BEING ABUSED BEFORE THE DIVORCE
Apparently Ruby in one of her phone calls she sais " I have so much compassion for these women" keep her in jail it seems it's where she is compassionate..not with her children. Leave her locked up, please!.
The safe room that Jodi claimed she hasn't been inside of in years. Liar.
The detective was able to guess the combination? How is this even remotely believable. Next-level reality show bs?
@@MrUpchukovyeah I have to agree with you on that point.
the officer figured out the code to get into the safe room, how did he do that ? LOL
Such a BRAVE Boy 💛 I really hope he knows how courageous he was that day. I really hope that he could celebrated as the hero he is for saving his siblings and himself 💛
Sad that the little girl was there with him a he didn't get to see her 😢
and many other children that we don't know about .... yet
everyone says that Ruby had clarity about her crimes once she was gone away from Jodie. Noooo Ruby was abusing these kids prior to being around Jodie. she wrote those diaries because she wanted to relive her control. she enjoyed this abuse torture. she did find out in jail that she needs to act remorseful to get less time. She is queen manipulator and the only remorse she has is the fact that she was caught and lost the liberty to continue to torture and feel the power she felt. i am not fooled by her and hope that the board sees through her bull!!!!!
You are so spot-on! I see right through that. She is not as smart as she thinks she is, I just hope and pray that the parole board does as well.
It’s so obvious!I don’t understand how people don’t see it.
And Ruby's mormon lawyer describe this monster as "delightful" ....🙄
Jeeze!!!!
Investigate that church and the Mormon community as a whole.
in her journal, she admits to drugging the children - I think they videotaped their torture of the children or with their phones
This is beyond horror. How can anyone treat a child like these women did with such great ease? It's like they couldn't hurt those children enough 😢
Kevin Franke is no better than his wife!
CHARGE: Accessory to Attempted Murder!
RIGHT! Where was he ??????????
He might not have abused them but he abandoned and neglected them. Is that any less damaging?
Who was looking after the two teen girls "A" and "J" while Ruby was in St George at Jodis house from May til Aug abusing the two younger kids? I know Ruby sent the two teen girls over at Pam Botchers house to "clean" (meaning they were Pams free maids), but they weren't there every day, so who was looking after them since they hadn't seen their dad in over a yr and Ruby was busy with Jodi running a concentration camp. I hope someone looks into this too! Ruby needs held accountable for neglect, abuse and abandonment of the two teen girls as well.
R. thought that at least one of his teen sisters also was in Jodi's house. So maybe Ruby brought the two of them to Pam that morning, after R's escape? It took some time for her to show up again.
Maybe Ruby also brought the pen papers to Pam?
@@e.k.4508 I hope "A" and "J" were both questioned so the detectives can get a better picture of their version of events. Did Ruby abuse "R" and "E" in front of their older sister's in St George? Theres is more to this story that we don't know.
My guess is that they were also in Jodi’s house but were isolated from their younger siblings. Even R said that he hadn’t seen E. in a month. That house was huge.
@@kellyk5726 child trafficking
They should have been charged with attempted murder!!!
I can't imagine how R was able to get out of a room that was locked by a door safe. I'm so grateful he did. R you are so brave and strong. Bless you for all of you life. Amen.
Brian, thanks for your stellar coverage of this horrific case.
What kind of comment is this? Do you not know that people like "Brian" are the worst type of people to exist? Everything they say is a lie and an agenda being pushed. I mean, just in the few seconds I listened to before pausing, he's completely talking down to people who think for themselves, referring to them as "conspiracy theorists" and "refusing to give them oxygen." Wtf? Yes, people are talking and it's because people like BRIAN here are covering for absolutely evil acts happening in front of our eyes daily. But you just want to brown nose a complete stranger for... What reason? Yikes, no wonder people lose hope in humanity.
Franke's change in demeanor is compliments of her attorney, absolutely no doubt he told her she needs to act accordingly to get her sweetheart deal.....
Manipulation, not real change.
R YOU ARE INCREDIBLE! Anyone else in your situation would have been terrified of the unknown but you are a Hero!
Those two kids were in a no win situation. If the kid "fessed up" the "ahem" adults said they were lying. There was no love in that house. And jody was practiced. She had Jessie first. Evil, evil, evil.
If Ruby Franke gets out early it means the Utah parole board is a complete JOKE.
Mormons helping Mormons. Evil helping evil. The entire "justice system" is a joke. It's all about money and power, it was never about justice.
well, the cult church owns the state of Utah, so don't expect justice - this goes way deeper than they want us to know, there is child trafficking going on
Thank you so much for being there and handling both R and E with love and compassion
God Blessed first responders and LE!!! RESPECT
Yeah because the prosecutor fell for everything ruby said in court. If it’s up to the prosecutor ruby will be out the first time she comes up for parole. And we all know Kevin is gonna be there waiting on her. With Jodi’s settlement money.
That is a god forsaken place to live 😐 it’s so bleak and dry, and empty.
I live on the equator and that environment alone, is in my nightmares.
Those poor children 😭😭😭
Ruby was mistreating her kids before Jodi was involved. As a matter of fact, Kevin did nothing to try to stop Ruby when they were on their podcast. Ruby and Jody are both evil.
The level of dissociation R displayed when he was abused with a cactus after staying in the sun until he had bad burns, is all you need to know about Jodi & Ruby. That poor young man. I’m so happy they got out.
What’s even more disturbing is the amount of followers Jodi and Ruby had. 2M subscribers! Can you imagine how many more kids are being abused? Because those followers actually listen to their advice. WTF.
Especially young, new parents, teen moms who don’t have their moms around to help them.
I watched just a couple of their episodes of 8 Passengers and was very disturbed at Ruby and Kevin’s “parenting”. Making their ill child sleep on the bathroom floor really pissed me off. When I was sick, my mom was right there beside me, either in my bed or in my parents bed, I had a bucket to puke in or I was on the family room couch. Anytime I would wake up, my mom was sitting right there. I was the same way with my children. Never ever could I make them sleep on the bathroom floor alone, while I toddled off to bed to sleep.
They should also be charged with kidnapping and attempted murder since the kids were detained, tied up and almost killed. Ruby and Jodi need to get life prison. Hope all of the evidence bring to a new and most fair sentence because 4 years is nothing for what they did.
and 30 years isn't enough
Those poor children 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I wish that the state had decided NOT to offer a plea deal and instead insisted on going to trial - with the public reaction so intense, the verdict would never have been in doubt, so maybe prosecutors decided that Hildebrandt and Franke could never get a fair trial in Utah.
Or maybe both Church and State felt that a public trial (imagine it being broadcast live on TV and CZcams!) would uncover so many coverups and sins and failures that the citizens of Utah, including ordinary Mormons, would hold the political and ecclesiastical authorities to account for enabling, even encouraging, the House of Horrors.
But wait till people start writing books about it! Wait till Hollywood gets ahold of it! The truth may eventually find a way out. 👍👏🏼✌️
Exactly. Get the fbi on this since everyone in that community is connected to the church whether they’re mormon or not.
This case mirrors Chad and Lori Daybale, the only thing missing thank goodness the children lived.
If only tylee also could have escaped and called police.
@@julietchristensen3957Also, if only the police in Arizona had listened to Charles when he asked for help.
Because of the local law enforcement and state officials being a part of the LDS church the FBI should be handling this since no one in the community is sovereign enough to handle this.
Where is your proof of that?
Are you serious? Do you know how serious of an offense it is for members of the LDS Church to abuse their children or spouses? They can get excommunicated for abusing their children or spouse. The LDS Church is very stern to abusive parents and any LE of State officials will be disgusted at these crimes against these children, no matter their religion, they will probably be harsher towards someone who should know better.
Tell me, what religion is Leticia Staunch? The West’s in California that killed their 2 adopted toddlers and lied about it to the police, what religion are they? What religion is Shanda Vander Ark? How about Lindsay Clancy? Or Casey Anthony? Chris Watts, what was his religion? Diane Downs? Any time a member of the LDS church commits a crime, the fact they are LDS is mentioned in every newscast and article and crazy accusations coming crawling out of the woodwork, all of which are ridiculous and false. But yet hundreds of other parents kill their children and there is never any mention of their religion. There are horrible people in all religions and walks of life. Do you think ALL Muslims are evil just because of a handful of extremists? I don’t, I have met many wonderful Muslims. How about Blacks? Just because a handful of Blacks commit crimes, are ALL Blacks bad? If a POC commits a crime and has a judge that is the same skin tone do you say he will get an easy sentence because the judge is the sane race? I would sure hope you wouldn’t. It’s time to stop painting everyone with the same brush and only hold those that commit the crimes accountable.
Chances are very high that Ruby and Jodi will be excommunicated, just like Chad and Lori Daybell have been,
@@daniellestoker Mormons are like the Meerkats on Meerkat Manor. They grovel to their human Church hierarchy in a quest for privilege and rank in it, and therefore will do whatever they sense will gain them acceptance and status among the "good-'ol-boys".
That is why the Mormon university kicked out Adam Steed, because they sensed that Jody didn't like him.
the FBI should be investigating the cult church's involvement with child trafficking
@@daniellestoker noun: child trafficking
the illegal movement of children, typically for the purposes of forced labor or sexual exploitation.
"child trafficking has become a worldwide concern in the past few years"
I 1000% believe that if it hadn’t been for R, both R and E would have ended up like JJ and Tylee. Also thank the stars for those sweet neighbors that listened and helped
They act like they want Jodi more than ruby. Almost giving her a pass. I’m sickened by all this. Utah let her get away with this for too long and sounds like they’re gonna do it again.
Both of these children's minds were affected by the dehydration and malnourishment.
There will be anger, rage, hate, guilt, remorse and more. I hope they can recover. It has taken me over 50 years to recover from emotional, mental, physical, sexual and other forms of depravation. We had to suck it up. Now there are mountains of research and experience.
I can finally forgive after seeing the suffering they went through.
I hope they can heal sooner than I have.
They deserve to be loved and to be able to believe they are loveable
Following from far North Queensland in Australia.
I hope and pray that these two women are punished to the fullest extent of the law
If you see the rescued children especially the daughter who was scared to come out the closet and was acting so subdued you know how severe the abuse was.
Please follow-up to assure that law enforcement check on other children whose families were connected with ConneXions.
To hear that police officer talk about how polite and brave the boy was is enough to make anyone cry. No doubt about it, Ruby’s son is extremely strong and brave.
despite her sadistic treatment of him
Why were they not charged with attempted murder, conspiracy to commit murder 😢
Good question.
Because they were given a pled deal so murder was taken off. We can only hope that the parole board leaves them both in prison for a long time. I’m sure Ruby is taking responsibility to look remorseful to serve less time. Jody still isn’t taking any responsibility. She’ll definitely spend years upon years in Prison.
@@HelloUSA87 so the better liar serves less time
It amazed me that her family did not ask her why she abuse her children to the near point of death. If it was my sister I would tell her never to call me again. Her family are enabling her. Blaming Jodi for everything when she is the mother. Kevin is also to blame leaving his children with these 2 mad women is unforgivable.
Jodi is a psychopath! She abused her niece with these same behaviors and torture. She got off because the Mormon church which has been involved in the sex trafficking and abuse of children. My children were abused by a psychopath woman. Jodi needs life in prison and to be charged with all the abuse done to her niece.
the cult church should be investigated by the FBI for child trafficking
I feel for those two children, the horrors they will face for the rest of their lives knowing that no one kept them safe.
Please investigate Jodi’s income. How does she afford such an extravagant house?
child trafficking
Jodi "tapped her on the cheek"????? Tapped? No such thing. That's a cowardly way to admit straight up abuse. The child was SLAPPED, not tapped.
God bless the ALL THE COPS AND EMTs
If the Boy had not escaped and found help I feel this whole situation could have maybe become even more sinister .
Ruby made it very clear in her journal writings that they intended to leave them in the Arizona desert
Those poor children...absolutely heartbreaking..
This was an excellent podcast. Bravo to the LEOs. God bless the children...
How is Ruby an authority on 'evil' especially in her own children, does she not know what 'real' evil is, real evil is her own actions, she is the evil one!! Totally unbelievable!!
What a psycho , glad they both got caught and kids are safe now
I hope these kids will be forever safe and have a wonderful life going forward
These are sociopathic women. I was SHOCKED to hear the prosecutor say he thought Ruby's statement was sincere. Her abuse of husband and kids goes back before Jodi.
it was totally shocking
You know when you are hurting someone, let alone your own children, and you continue systematically abusing and brainwashing them. You cannot let those people back in the society! Those kids were days away from losing their sanity and their lives! There’s no MISUNDERSTANDING!
they both are a danger to society
Too bad they won't treat them in prison like they treated these poor children.
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I wish and hope one of these detectives/sergeants can ADOPT THESE BABIES. Bc they DONT BELONG IN THAT FAMILY W/ANY OF THEM & PLEASE KEEP TABS ON THESE KIDS AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE OK IN DCF CARE/ PLEASE PLEASE CHECK ON THESE BABIES 💙🖤💙🖤💙🖤💙🖤
Excellent work. Thank you for this hard to believe information.
Ruby said the injury on his ankles was done by him and that everyone was making it a bigger deal than it was.
You know what’s really sad
There aren’t news specials for every abused child. It takes extraordinary circumstances to make police or children’s services or anyone take notice. This insanity happens every day and children stay quiet and when they do oftentimes they are blamed for not speaking up
This is awful, but it’s all awful, this isn’t unusual…especially where it happened
This is excellent! Thank you for interviewing these amazing EMT and officers to remind us there are still many wonderful people in this world, there is still humanity ❤️ . It is also a pure fact, R IS AN ABSOLUTE HERO. ❤️⭐💐✨ Would love to see an interview with the neighbors who thank goodness were there to help him/the kids (of course I understand they may not wish to be interviewed).
I think the husband is just as responsible as these two. I grew up around the Mormon community. When you're a part of that church you are constantly going to social events at neighbors are coming over to your house. So why didn't anybody put a stop to this sooner?
follow the money
We see you too Ruby's Friend Pam H.!!!
I know this isn't an easy situation to report. May you and your colleagues be blessed with much strength and comfort to get through these rough reports❤
I think Ruby realized if she didn’t turn against Jody she would be in jail forever. Her conversation with her sister seems to elude to a strategy. Ruby was emotionally abusive before she met Jodi. I think Ruby is as manipulative as Jodi and dangerous. She should be in jail for 60 years and never have contact with her children again. Kevin is a little different but then he condoned Ruby’s parenting before Jodi and should not have contact with his children.
Many sadistic monsters hides behind faith and the bible..
Is there any cure for religious extremism? Ruby and Jodi will just retreat into bible study whilst in prison. I doubt either of them will ever accept the reality of what they have done.
"R" is the hero of this digusting story. May the children get the help they need!
He was the only one who asked about the other kids. Mom, dad Jodi.. none of them asked about the kids. None of them.
Wow the delusion she has. It’s amazing how she blames her son and not herself. I can’t believe there are people like that in the world.
What is in the drinking water in Utah 😐
I hope the fathef doesn’t get their custody !!! He is not better than his wife
Inspite of what he had been thru he had the wherewithal to escape and save himself and his sister. I believe he realized he had to escape now. Of never. So brave. Wow.
he knew his death and his sister's death was imminent as soon as they moved to Arizona
‘Poor Jodi’ … grosssssssss
Has anyone brought up the “Pen Papers” that Kevin mentioned in the audio interview? These were not Ruby’s journal. These pertain to Jodi and all her “visions”. You know the ones where she believed they were so important that they would one day be like scripture. What a delusional person. I’m just curious if those were found and if they were used as evidence,
What did the neighbour mean when he said about Jodi: “we know there have been problems in this neighbour’s house” ?
They both make me sick and it's unreal how they got by with so little time when these children could of been killed in time. This definitely doesn't set a very good example for all the lunatics out there doing or thinking of harming children!! Sickening
If this was happening to the 2 littlest kids R & E, where were the 4 older ones?
The two oldest are over the age of 18 and pretty much on their own, J and A were found staying over Jodi and Ruby's friends, (who are also involved with the same cult) but it is not clear where the two girls lived. There is some evidence of J also being ad Jodi's home at some point, but we don't know much about it.
Also, some Springville neighbor had called police and CPS because they saw kids left alone in the house for a long period of time.
@@biancaravizza1328 thank you 🙏🏻 I wondered if the elder ones knew the extent at which these kids were being abused, as being an older sibling myself I’d have fought tooth & nail to get those kids away from those 2 monsters 😓
@@peacefulpath222 I think Shari knew something was going on as she also called CPS and police more than one time and tryed to get her sibilings out, but I doubt she knew it was this bad.
@@biancaravizza1328 yeah, without the sanction of the cult church in Utah, no one investigated as Ruby was their cash cow
Imagine the shock to the cop who first found that journal and read it.
Same shock to the neighbors who helped, the paramedics and the cops as well as the hospital staff who helped these children.
What kind of mother pours cyan pepper on a wound SHE inflicted on her son?? I’m so proud of her brave son for escaping the horrors inflicted on him and his siblings! If not for his bravery all of the children would still be in dire straits!!! 😡🤬🥵
It's all about convenience? That's why she has a change of heart!! I wish there would have been a Trial🤔
Have originally watched 8 passengers in 2015 and watched this sweet little kids my heart is literally broken and I was fooled. The A was well hidden!
Anything known why older siblings who had moved out did not check on their younger siblings?
Both jodi and ruby have not changed and will not, theyre just saying and doing whatever will get them a lesser sentence.
What problems did the neighbors know about?
She needs to be in jail for a long time
I wonder if Jodie was charging Ruby a fee or rent for her stay there. Also, her asking to write a journal could be a way to protect herself because she knows that what their doing is wrong. Jodie isn't dumb, it's Ruby's writing in the journal, just in case the law gets involved.
He is an incredibly brave boy. I can say that his pain tolerance tells you the amount of abuse he went through. I was physically and emotionally abused by my mother, not to this extent, I was only hit with fists, pancake turners, and paddles but you honestly do become numb to the pain. You just want to take it and wait for it to hopefully be over soon. Sadly it seems like his was never ending. I hope her husband never regains custody of the youngest 2. And, if it were me, I would never want to see her again.
In comparison to what would have happened to those kids if they’d moved them to the place in AZ for “discipline” these kids were lucky. This throwing out the devil lunacy of his mother’s is an argument against religion and in favor of more mental health services.