Video shows moment American Fork police locate Ruby Franke's children on day of her arrest
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- In a case that spans from southern Utah to the Wasatch Front; on August 30, 2023, Ruby Franke’s children were found separated by hundreds of miles.
When one of her children left Jodi Hildebrandt’s home in Ivins that day and went to a neighbors house to call 911, law enforcement began searching for the two other "minor" Franke children.
At first, officers in Springville thought they might be at Franke’s home. When they served a warrant and found the home unoccupied, they began looking in other places around the county.
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Expecting another woman’s children to clean your home is insane
I just came to comment on that! They are children! I have never made my children clean! I had my children straighten their rooms, that's it. I would never have let them use chemicals/cleaning supplies to clean. These people are awful parents! All of them!
I thought the same thing. She said she would take the girls because she needed help cleaning,
I’ve seen on other videos that they made these kids clean other peoples homes a lot, mostly as punishment. Often they wouldn’t feed the children unless their “chores” were done.
Ahh, yes, building fond memories of the good old days when we used to visit our good family friend Pam. I remember how fun it was scrubbing her toilet and cleaning her gutters and she would let us do her laundry and empty the cat boxes and cleaning the oven was always my favorite thing to do, I just loved the chemical fumes and how she always put so much love into our beatings.
In an emergency situation and without pay, yes. But I can understand hiring older kids of a family friend if they've chosen to start a business to make some money. Don't think that's what's happening here at all though. Was probably a punishment tool for the girls.
“I said I’d pick them up because I needed some cleaning”. That says a lot and confirms much of what we’ve heard about the abuse of the children.
Everyone in these kids' lives let them down. Unbelievable. Pam should be arrested too.
It also shows just how comfortable she is with that messed up arrangement. She could have said something like "I said I'd pick them up to help their mother out since she's a friend of mine" or some other statement, but she told them the truth in such a blatant manner. I mean, it's good that she did, but it speaks to how little she sees wrong with this.
"help with some cleaning" seems conveniently vague, as you can then think that maybe the kids were doing the "cleaning" as a service to instill healthy values. Or it could be that they were doing it for money, she didn't say. OR she could just be using kids, and this is one of the ways in which she uses them.
Well apparently they have not separate half as much as their ancestor ANNE and hiding in an attic
Omggg i can’t believe she said this
Pam keeps reiterating how she needed help cleaning so she took in the other 2 kids…she used ruby’s kids as a maid service and ruby allowed it. Not once did she mention taking them in because she cared or wanted to look after them, it’s only because she wanted them to do things for her. Truly sickening
It’s the saying this out loud part for me!
@@ansnfbsknanssshshbsnsndnd5438 why would she choose a lie that makes her look bad lmao
Isn't that the basis of every relationship basically in life shouldn't the children help their parents instead of sitting around playing Nintendo games
@user-lp1jw9bo5y Well, I mean, it becomes a little different when the children were bound so I don't know helping the family but going around ad maids for others is kinda wild
@@adamblack3802 You are clueless. Watch the video again and try to pay attention this time.
How disgusting! Pam said yes, the girls can stay with her because she needs some help cleaning! It is like the Franke girls were her personal slaves!
I thought the same thing. As if they were servants.
It's disgusting .
Thought the same. So disgusting treats them like garbage
I agree. The whole of her relationship with the girls is that they are subservient to her. Not a word about any feelings and no words of concern. I was just this minute reading 2 Timothy about lovers of self...abusive...without natural affection. Ruby's entire family is questionable. Over the last four years, we have watched many videos of people from Rexburg (swinging Sexburg) and Springville. It's very confusing the way people throw around the word "love," AND the name of Jesus. They should have love if they are Christian. Something is wrong.
"She comes over and helps me do cleaning and stuff" - child trafficking. Can't wait they arrest her too.
Child abusers and sadists. Lock them all up. There is no justification for treating other people’s kids as free labor. These people make me sick.
You and I both.
Ruby is actually renting her children for labor, just sad
You don’t know that’s what it is
Agreed
@@mamabear52yes and that is human trafficking and it’s disgusting
I love the fact that Pam doesn't mention that she is the PRESIDENT of Connexions.
She acts like she hardly knows anything about it.
@@watsonspuzzleso true that’s what I said 🙈 lol
Would you with those greasy hair?
Right, and she uses “they” instead of “we” when describing what Connexions does.
@@rachaelharper3778 I know. I'm agreeing with you.
The dad isn't better. Protect these kids.
He's every bit as culpable, imo, but I can't wait to see what lawyers end up creating in terms of his plea deal.
That Dad's Bodycam Footage was just released a few days ago The Day The Kids were found / taken - Showing up at the House When Shari got all her Dad's Belongings he wanted she was very friendly He wanted to FILE CHARGES ON HER ---- for Stealing His Belongings -- If you haven't seen it just search yt Bodycam footage for him
@@HeavenlyPresley-Tonyayes. I am very disgusted that he is not also in jail, at this point.
@@justkiddin84 ME too His time is coming - I think they are focused on this "Timing" being found at Jodi's Home -- With Charges --- He will get his
I'm shocked Chad and Shari are even talking to the dad and showed up at court with him the other day. He knew what was happening and did nothing to prevent it. I hope the judge protects the minor children and sees through Kevins lies and that he has been an absent father for the last 14 months.
Wow, imagine helping out with a friend’s family emergency by taking her kids in with the intention of putting them to work. Just wow.
In another video at the house, she said, "I made her scrub the floors".
Punishment to make the sin get out. Sometimes with duct tape. Wow!
@@markasread4349 That is just terrible. I ask my grand daughter who is 8 to swiffer my floor for me on Thanksgiving but I think that was all I ever asked in 8 years of spoiling her rotten and pretty much giving her anything she asked or wanted. She FaceTimed me yesterday and asked for a Barbie hoodie and I Venmoed her mother the money for it. She did a great job on the floor by the way. Sorry your grandmother was such a bltch. Give your grand children the grandparent you always wanted. It will heal you I promise.
The key incriminating words here were, “I need some help with cleaning!” Like what? Whenever I have watched someone’s kids for an emergency situation, the thought they I could use them to clean my house or do chores etc. never even crossed my mind. She’s in on this too or at least has been indoctrinated enough to think or believe this is acceptable behavior. My heart aches for these kids. I hope none them even go back to their Dad. I don’t feel line he’s a whole lot better. 😢
I don’t feel good about the dad either. He’s fighting for custody, but my question is why? Why fight for custody now, when he didn’t try to fight for custody earlier? I’m sure he knew that Ruby was an unfit mother, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he partook in the abuse.
What kind of person looks after kids for someone and has them cleaning there house it is far from normal she is shameless.
@@tiahnarodriguez3809 well from the youtube videos they would post we know the dad was ok with starving them, taking away his son's bed, and taking away the younger kids christmas as punishment.
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EXACTLY!! Lock this bissssh up and throw away the key!
As the owner of her company, she was piss poor at describing it to the CPS and police officer. I'd question that.
not on her side in any way at all but i just wanted to clarify that jodi is actually the owner of the connections thing. pam was just a higher up member but ofc even with that she should be able to know what it’s about considering how close she is with the 2. i definitely agree with u on that tho
@@ariesfairy4444What you said doesn't change anything about the original comment. It's almost like it would have been better to not type it.
They are a part of the Mormon cult. The church collects millions of dollars every Sunday from millions of cult members TAX free by the way.... And they provide these properties for their cult members across our state. Free
@camiscooked well she wasn't the owner.
The officials need to get the phone records from all these women to see texts and phone calls made on the day of the arrest.
Stop calling it a “business”, call it what it is. It’s a cult at the end of the day.
Its a business, they profit through it. Its a business of gibberish nonsense.
Fr, though?!. To me, it looked like she was about to say, 'it's a cult' with how much she hesitated in answering what Connextions is and whats it about. It actually kind of scares me because it makes me wonder, what MORE unknown shit connexions were doing..
@@victimofpsychiatry Cult is a term, in most contexts pejorative, for a relatively small group which is typically led by a charismatic and self-appointed leader, who excessively controls its members, requiring unwavering devotion to a set of beliefs and practices which are considered deviant.
IMO, should be “Capitalist cult”. Or industrial cult if you want to be more non-partisan.
(Edit: Agreed!!)
Everyone in connections needs to be investigated and their children need to be checked to see if there’s signs of abuse
Agree.
Well we know her niece was abused by her very badly. She has spoken out and done several interviews. I think that is what really opened the door to finding out about Jodi and the whole connexions thing was because of her. I’m sure they would have found out eventually but she definitely helped. Imo anyway. If you haven’t seen Those interviews it’s reallllllly disgusting and sad what she did to her niece Jessie with her parents complete permission as well.
That’s exactly what I was thinking😣
Absolutely!!
@@user-xt9nt2qm1l I’m talking about they would have found out eventually about connexions. Because of the investigation they already knew a little bit, but Jessie coming out about what happened to her really opened the flood gates for what it really was and what they were doing. I do think without her telling her side, it’s possible that the outcome would not be what we all want (although we don’t know yet what the end result will be). I hope they do investigate every member of that cult and their children and definitely take action with getting those kids help- because I have a hard time believing that those were the only kids in this cult that were being abused. I definitely think they’re all Trying to cover it up after seeing this video!
"Can you look after my children"
:yes I need help with cleaning"
Unbelievable. She doesn't even see that this is sick.
"looking after" someone's children means slave labour to her.
It's incredible how such a short clip can reveal so much. She is clearly distancing her Connexions affiliation and relationship with Jodi and Ruby. It really seems like the middle girls were trafficked to do cleaning....unfortunately they probably wouldn't realize how abusive this is. Anyone associated with Jodi on this level and knows to stay vague should be considered a suspect. Lets remember how connexions has been ruining families for a decade... this woman is president.
Labor trafficking…
It doesn’t surprise me. The hidden abuse is so rampant. I can report things from the 60’s.
@@whatmyohmy actually it has a very broad definition. Trafficked is not only the hideous thing people understand as children in the sex trade. It also includes children and vulnerable people being used in ways they have no control over.
@@whatmyohmy educate yourself
@@whatmyohmycf4441 is correct. trafficking is a broad definition for not just the type of trafficking you’re thinking of. i’m not saying trafficking was definitely happening here, there’s not enough information yet. but i wouldn’t be surprised if trafficking played a part in this story.
This is kind of infuriating. All of these very pampered adults treating these children like indentured servants. These adults, are the ones that need to scrub their own damn floors. I would never make my friends children clean my floors.
Tbh, a lot of comment sections can be cruel and reactionary, but you guys are rocking it with these monsters re: the Franke case.
I'm upset, as well, and hope to hell the children's ad litem is equipped to handle the complexity of their situation. (DFCS is probably working overtime.)
And of course I'm especially hoping that there are people who LOVES these kids and who can be a huge part of their lives as they heal from a nightmare I can't imagine. (Trying to imagine who raised Ruby to end up being such a freakishly cruel person: these might not be the sugar cookie grandma/grandpa's in storybooks.)
Right wtfff is wrong w them
@mortalclown3812 Their names are Chad and Jennifer Griffiths, and they also have a CZcams channel. There used to be old videos posted where you could see them implement the same abusive tactics that Ruby and her sisters use in their videos. Loaning out kids for manual labor, restricting food and necessary clothing like winter coats, trying to ruin birthdays by accusing the children of lying/cheating/stealing, etc. The whole family has been rotten for generations.
Я и своих не заставляю
How are children supposed to get experience cleaning their own house if you don’t expose them too cleaning, adult kids nowadays don’t want to work their lazy and stupid because the parents made them that way, stop doing this to children they need discipline and chores to have some kind of meaningful life when they reach adults!
It appears as though ruby was getting other people to abuse her children under the guise of "helping with the cleaning". This woman seems determined to not help the police at all and the way she watches how she gives them information seems very suspicious. She can't even articulate what Connexions actually is and her description is given so carefully it's almost as if she's been coached in what to say. That entire organization should be heavily investigated if not closed down outright.
I wouldn't be surprised if she was being purposefully vague. Many years ago she was an accessory to the torture of Jodi Hildebrandt's niece Jessi and would report to Jodi about the things Jessi would do to at least reprieve or alleviate their torment. She's already partaken in helping torture a child, so who knows what she was party to in this case.
@@brandonwilliams4050 yeah she's at the very least witnessed Jessi's mouth being duct taped and thought that was fine. so there's a chance she's witnessed the youngest Franke children in that horrible malnourished state and thought it was fine.
@@fifinoir Yes exactly. I know "innocent until proven guilty" is a thing, but based on Jessi's interview(s) and how deep this case goes, I'm going to assume she at least knew what was going on, until proven otherwise.
What really bothers me (and is likely something we'll never really know) is how much the two older kids knew. For my own sanity I like to think they were fooled into believing their little siblings were just being harmlessly separated from them for stupid "Truth and Distortion" reasons.
Because otherwise a host of horrific scenarios come to mind. I can only imagine the guilt and terror one would feel knowing their siblings were being tortured but being too scared to help or feeling like there was no way to get help because you had been conditioned to see the "outside world" as hostile.
Or worst of all, truly the most nightmarish situation...that they knew and maybe felt a little bad about it, but the brainwashing was so deep that they felt their younger siblings deserved it or it was for their own good.
If it is that last one, the protective older brother in me can't help but feel immense disgust and anger even though I know the true fault lies with the adults.
But like I said, we will probably never know, at least not until the criminal trial.
@@debmadden4157 I was talking about the two "middle" girls, the ones found in Pam's house. Just through pure logistics of living together they had to have at least some knowledge of what was happening to the younger ones and I was speculating on the extent and nature of that knowledge.
I know the oldest daughter had been trying to get authorities involved for some time now, it just adds to the tragedy.
@@brandonwilliams4050 when you say the ‘two older kids’ do you mean the middle two girls or the 2 eldest, boy and girl, that are now adults and we’re not in the home for a while?
It's bizarre that she's happy to pick up and keep someone's children and the first thing she says about it is that she needs some help with cleaning. And she mentions that at least twice. Like it's the most normal thing in the world. IT'S NOT NORMAL! Ugh! Lock this woman up, too, for child slave labor.
the children are shared "property" to be used as they see fit, there will be videos found of them being abused
@@bonnie_gail 😥
“I said I’d take them because I needed help cleaning.” Not because she cared. Not because the kids needed someone to look after them. Like….did ANYONE give a shit about any of these kids??
THIS‼️‼️
Exactly! It sounds like a network of child abusers. It’s sickening how they are hiding in plain sight with nice homes and groomed lawns and those blank faces like they are only trying to teach the children how to be honest. Pure evil.
Not anyone associated with Jodi Hildebrandt!
Wow, she was gaurded, careful to only say what she was asked and nothing more. The lack of emotion is kind of sad really.
She's a friend of Jodi's! And Jodi is a part of Satan! Why are we surprised that Pam is just like them! She is just like them! Lock her up, too.
It is but at the same time she's probably thinking she's got to be extremely careful what she says bc they had her in cuffs at one point. She was thinking more about hers and ruby's arse than the kids. But then again can we expect anything different if she's part of connections too? If you ask me the whole ring needs investigated for child 4bu$3 because there's more than these kids. The program primes the members to be 4bu$3rs
@@dnt_vtepedr good points
She's scum but at least she knows not to talk to the police (or give them minimal information) without an attorney.
I find it so interesting how Pam Bodcher acted like ConneXions is just some program she attended, and completely fails to mention that she is the president of the organization! And she can't even articulate what the program is about? Highly suspicious. Good job on the CPS worker for drawing those answers out of her. It definitely put her in a bad light and I hope she's being investigated. There's no way she's ignorant of what was happening. Her husband said she has been good friends with Ruby for a long, long time. Pam tried to make it sound like it had just been a short while. My guess is that she's not innocent. She's clearly being dishonest about her connection to ConneXions here.
Speak the damn truth when no one else will. “Life skills” my ass. ConneXions destroyed families and further separated husbands from their wives and children when things could have gone differently.
Pam is lying. I hope she is investigated. This body cam footage is very telling.
Kevin Franke needs to be held accountable too! He participated in taking away his sons bed, the food restrictions & participated in Jodi Hildebrandts' conferences for her ConneXions business. Lock them ALL up.
I agree. His attorney said that Kevin was a victim also. Ridiculous!! He even taught some classes at Connexions.
Tabby...
Kevin Franke needs to be held accountable 😮 he knows something 😮
She said she wanted the girls because she “wanted some help cleaning” that is so disgusting to me.
Yes. It’s extremely disturbing. Watching someone’s kids equals having them clean your house!?? Wha!?
Had law enforcement listened to Jodi' niece she would have been locked up along time ago. She is a very sick person.
Did Jessi talk about this before August? I mean recently. I was under the impression that she hasn't talked to LE about this since she was maybe a child, if ever
@@TheCandiceWang They were a teenager when their parents gave them over to Jodi's "care". When they ran away the first time, they went to the police and filed a report. The police then returned them back to Jodi.
@@TheCandiceWang Yes, good question. I believe Jessi did talk to police and the authorities to raise abuse concerns and to report abuse officially long prior to august 2023 when this situation blew up, as did one of the older Franke daughters who had moved out and was estranged but was trying to involve the authorities to protect her younger siblings.
OUR WHOLE SYSTEM NEEDS CLOSE EXAMINATION AS THERE IS BOTH AMPLE ROOM AND ABSOLUTE NEED FOR REFORM.
CHILDREN ARE NOT LISTENED TO WHEN IT CONTRAVENES THE NARRATIVE PROVIDED BY THE ADULTS- EVEN WHEN THE CHILDREN ARE TELLING THE TRUTH and ARE IN REAL DANGER, SUFFERING ACTUAL ABUSE- things that can radically impact the life or sometimes take their lives.
We need to have all hands on deck, looking at ways we can improve this system and make it better. And it can’t just be to overcorrect and swing the pendulum back too far on the other direction with heavy handed but foolishly overbearing laws and restrictions.
These matters are too important.
Child abuse is a hidden epidemic and it is tragic. It does hidden damage that manifests in countless ways later on- disease, addiction, criminality, self harm, and perpetuating further cycles of abuse. Not to mention the suffering of the abused. Not to mention the contributions to the world that the abused could have made if only pieces of their lives not stolen from them.
Ruby had her kids cleaning Pam’s house?!
Pam also seemed to try and minimize her affiliation with Connexions when questioned by the dcfs worker.
Guilty Tell: When asked why she picked up the girls, Pam confirms that Ruby asked her to pick them up due to Ruby having a 'family emergency'... at which point in her narrative, Pam says she agrees to this because she had some chores she needed help with around the house. This seems like a cover story or code that they had come up with previously whenever the kids were at her house, and in Pam's desire to normalize the situation and look innocent, she told the officer she had the kids to help Ruby AND because she needed help cleaning her house?! Which, by the way, how many people find it 'normal' to have someone else's kids bring stuff to stay overnight with them in order to help with chores around the house? She knows she is involved with something shady, and she's trying to make it sound like nothing fishy is going on.
Good call on the kids having their belongings. It shows that there was a plan in place to keep them more than a few hours for doing chores.
Nauseating
I have done chores for others as a kid.
@@rakesfunnyfarm Were you paid for it, or were you forced into doing it while your mom abused you and did shady stuff? Big difference.
@@rakesfunnyfarm clarify your experience. Was it abusive or do you not recognize being used
Why does this well-fed and seemingly healthy woman need someone else's children to help her clean her house? Seems like this wasn't unusual for her.
Why was Ruby Franke spreading her kids out over the state, and forcing some of them to perform seemingly unpaid manual labor for a business acquaintance?
Well fed
She's obese
Because she's a fatso and can't completely do it herself, I'm sure she did nothing except watch those kids do her stupid chores.
child trafficking
She is the President of ConneXions, but she calls it “their” program. She started distancing herself from the first minute. She KNEW stuff was going on with those kids. She had been doing seminars and even vacationing with Ruby and Jodi right up until this happened.
She mentioned first that the girl comes over and helps her with cleaning. Then she said she would watch girls so they could help with the cleaning. She was going to put those girls to work. It just show you how these children were treated.
Lol yeah “life skills….” = “clean my house”
Well there no life skills in schools anymore.@@mimimonster
@@rakesfunnyfarm When I took life skills in middle school we learned basic sewing, cooking, how to write a check, how to write on an envelope, and at the end of class we always cleaned up after ourselves. There is no reason why children should be cleaning an adult’s house by like this.
@@mimimonster knowing how to properly clean is a life skill. My parents never showed me how to adequately clean, cook, do dishes, or laundry, and I had to learn it myself while in college. I remember watching CZcams videos about how to fold clothes. I also ruined tons of my clothes assuming that putting them in the dryer on the highest heat was the right thing to do.
What a good friend. She didnt even tell the cops when she knew the kids were starving.
People had been calling child services for a long time, and they also let the poor kids slip through the cracks. My heart aches for the children 💔
No it's just that CPS/DCFS is useless. It's a useless gov't organization and does absolutely nothing. I've arrested, drug addicts incapable of providing for their kids, I've arrested and witness fathers and mothers (cause it does happen quite often honestly) abuse their husbands, wifes, and in some cases their kids and CPS didn't remove those kids. Next time I was at the address that kid was there. I've watched the courts release kids or give kids to the worst parent. I've seen parents who handle themselves well, have a career, a stable home and they're denied to have thier kids. CPS is fucking useless. It's not that they let the kids slip, it's they just don't care. The organization is a sham
It's Utah. It's populated with a ton of freaks. There are many treating their children like this and they think it's normal.
It is because that Jodi Hildebrandt was so far up the LDS bishop's butt she could see out his mouth. Hildebrandt had powerful friends in the LDS church who thought her form of child therapy was great. The way the local authorities acted was insane. 911 got a call the children were home alone for days. The cops could see the children in the windows but when they got no response, they just said, "oh well" and left. That wouldn't have happened anywhere else on earth except Utah and it only happened there because Hildebrandt was so powerful with the bishop friend. She was on the LDS payroll too. They paid her to give "therapy" to vulnerable families. If you tried to quit she would ruin your life.
@@pippadawg7037 Definitely.
Notice around 3:35 sec. in she said "yeah I was ok with that because I needed help cleaning". Ruby's kids were mistreated by them ALL.
As a parent, even this small piece of the case is mind-boggling to me. My kids are busy learning, playing with friends, spending time with family... and yes doing a few basic chores at home (ie keep room clean, doing dishes, feeding cats). WHY are these kids cleaning someone else's home?! It's so sick.
Omg when she said, "Yeah, I'll look after your kids, I need some help cleaning . I feel so bad for those kiddies 😢
There is chores and there is child labour. My children had chores if they done the chores they earned their pocket money. Their chores, keep you room clean (not OCD tidy just dirty clothes in the laundry, books and toys packed away etc) but NEVER chores of house cleaning. Seriously lady, you think that’s acceptable to agree to look after children so that they can help you clean your house?? 🤨
I think it was her best explanation on short notice.
I had chores that means cooking and cleaning. My kids had some chores and I had all boys. The schools took out life skills. Which that was a big mistake. by the way I didn't get paid.
@@rakesfunnyfarm well did you ever make your kids go to your coworkers house to do cleaning??? I don't think the original commentor was talking about giving your children chores in your own house.
Kids need to live and have fun too! We only get to be carefree for so long. I totally agree with chores, but like you said it doesn’t need to be perfect.
I'm just trying my luck with f
What sort of woman wants to have somebody else’s children because they need cleaning done. She literally said when she asked me if I could have a children Pam said yeah and I’ve got cleaning I need done. This whole connection thing, I don’t seem to believe children should have a childhood at all despicable.
For a person who is the president of Connexions it seems rather suspicious that she is unable to easily describe what the company does. Either she's just president in name and isnt involved at all or she's trying to phrase her words carefully so as to not reveal the full horrific nature of Connexions.
Edit: I believe it's most likely the later.
just think for a second, you are asking a friend to take care of your children because you have a family emergency and they are like "sure, I need someone to help with cleaning anyways" WOW
she needed help cleaning? These children are being trafficked at every turn.
Botch doesn't need any more program kids cleaning her house for her, and she's really distancing herself from Connexions. She knew.
She acts like Ruby didn’t tell her what all that the “family emergency” meant. This woman knows what was going on and probably would treat Ruby’s kids the same way as Jodi did. Jodi’s niece said this woman was involved in the madness even way back then.
Reminds me of my ex stepmother! Spot on actually. Depriving us of food, making us clean for hours on end while she took her "precious spawn" shopping. Only lasted UNTIL I was 16, was big enough to stand up for myself! What a story I could tell. It's a shame what happened to these children. Ruby and her friend Jodi should NEVER be allowed near children again!
Okay Cinderella
@@junkman8742Did you know that most cultures produced a version of that story?
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I am so sorry for your story. I had a very similar story to yours and it takes a lot to come out of that situation. I didn’t stand up for myself until I was in my mid 20s.
Sad story 😢
Pam knows about abuse. How could she not know??
How was her first question not "what about the other two children? Do you not need me to watch them also?" That right there speaks volumes; she knows that there is more going on if she is only being asked to watch 2 out of the 4 minor children in a "family emergency", unless Ruby told her that the emergency involved the other two children (and it doesn't sound like she did...I may be wrong 🤷🏼♀️).
for sure, for one, she didn't ask if the abused kids were okay even once. very telling
@@tinamarie2121so true
@tinadiesman5442 Ofcourse, Ruby told Pam, that Jodi had been arrested & her 2 youngest children were in Police custody at the Hospital, because why wouldn't Ruby tell her ?
It does strike me as very contradictory that Ruby would arrange care for these two girls while at the same time atrociously paticipating in the torture and abuse of her two youngest.
More like hiding the children.
@@EASTSIDERIDER707 there is a vast divide between being out in public, working and participating in society than there is being tied, duct taped and locked in.
@@EASTSIDERIDER707& clearly cleaning help for friends too-the crazy not stopping in this case LDS crazy
@@moiraslater8526 agreed
@@abbyynorman2874 Crazy is their norm. The theology may have been an influence on L Ron.
Where is the bodycam footage of Ruby and Jodi getting arrested ??
All of these “people” need to be monitored indefinitely as long there are ANY children anywhere in their lives.Malignant personalities.
I KNOW NOW WHY YOU SHOULD ALWAYS LOOK DECENT EVEN WHEN YOU ARE AT HOME😮
Well, that's a pro tip, if you are involved in activities that will bring police to your door sooner or later
all of these adults are infuriating. these poor children. no one protected them.
"Yea I said they could come cause I needed help cleaning" 🙄 good grief they are all the same.
Over & over again- not just parental abuse but other adults abusing. What is wrong with people. Disgusting. 😢
what's even more disturbing is the fact the MORMON CHURCH SUGGESTED JODI AND CONNEXIONS to ones who were having problems. THE MORMON CHURCH WOULD PAY FOR SOME OF THE SESSIONS. So its mixing business/profit with the church, absolutely abhorring and sacrilegious. She is the equivalent to Jim Cunningham in Donnie Darko from the way she speaks to her ideals. Its dangerous and she's ruined many lives. She IS the antichrist.
like even down to the child abuse and kiddie p0.rn,0 in the movie. It reflects it perfectly. SO TERRIFYING!!!!
What are you talking about? Kitty p*** people are crazy, don't you all have something else to do if I was the people that owned this house, I would see this cop for keeping my wife in a car. They said she didn't do anything wrong, I picked up my friend's kids a lot and if anybody in my granddaughter's school ask me to pick up their kids. I'm a nice enough person to do so everybody so quick to jump the gun when you meet the face of Jesus Christ. He's gonna judge you the way you judge me others. He is the only judge. This woman didn't get arresand they wouldn't stayed on my property or in my house and let's stay ahead. I had an attorney present. I thought they were very kind people. And the man told him they could run his record and she was very polite. And nice to you a lot nicer than I would have been. And you're up here acting like these kids aint been it. They looked very healthy and they looked like they care about these people. To be in your house as when you all were screaming that your children
these children have been trafficked and not just for cleaning
She needs to be in jail. Great reporting thank you for sharing this so the world can see who else needs to be held accountable. Again she is saying she doesn’t know her well but had known here really well the last 3 years! Oh and well enough that a mother calls you with a family emergency asks you to get her children and you think great I’ll put them to work cleaning my house?!?. She’s as disgusting and Jodi and Ruby are
Heck but the woman`s all heart!! "yes i said i`d take them ,as i needed help cleaning"!!!Omg!! I hope not only Ruby and Jodie ,but all those involved with Connexions are investigated. Awful ,awful people.
Yes, she seems just like a loving grandma or auntie, doesn't she? That's sarcasm. Well, seeing as how my floors need scrubbing and the toilets need a good swish, well, yeah, sure bring them over and they can do that.
Pam said “their program” when she’s the president of the group
That witch just wanted her house cleaned, nice people
Pam; learning how to u know…
Dcfs worker: no we don’t know 😂
I think DCF does know!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did the kids choose foster care over their older sister? That's so sad how the Frankes turned their eldest into a pariah because she recognized Connections for what it was. Her own father wanted her ARRESTED for picking up the kids' things (with police escort). I hope that the kids get deprogrammed and find true peace & love.
apparently they initially did not want to go with the older sister. who knows how brainwashed they are about her... or what punishments they were trying to avoid that may come afterwards... but as far as I know, they are under older sister's care now. which is the best case scenario at the moment if you ask me.
I was literally wondering the same thing, she’s the one that saved them. Hopefully they are doing well now
@@rachelpancher7309she didn’t save them..Russell saved them. She left the home first.
She only took them because she had cleaning to do? Whoa woman!
3:31 The vile mother asks her friend to look after two of her kids:
"I can do that *because I need some help cleaning* "
Maybe those handcuffs need to be put back on?
Right 💯 perfect agree! She knows way more and is lying. She needs help cleaning 😂
Top-tier journalism.
Y’all better receive some awards for your dedication. This is like Zodiac-level moment.
Godspeed, writers, editors, and researchers! ❤🇨🇦
Pam better lawyer up.
That's the only thought running through her mind at that time.
All the adults in this situation need to be put in jail.
"Yeah I'll watch your girls, bc I need some help with cleaning the house." Who thinks like that??
Poor children. There are no words or way to even know just how many levels of physical and emotional damage have been done to innocents who are just learning how to exist in this world. Just sitting there alone while this exchange goes on. Heartbreaking.❤🙏🏼
„..…I need help cleaning…“ It’s so difficult to watch and think about what these children are going through. 😢
Guilty! As soon as she said “I need help cleaning” done! Lock her up!
If the kids were in this woman's house every adult there should be charged. It's disgusting, they act like bound an starving kids locked in ur basement is no big deal.
“Yeah I need help cleaning my house” what…..yeah I don’t like this woman either. 🤦🏻♀️
I thought my mom was abusive because she made me change the channel on the TV when I was a kid! She claimed that's why she had me. LOL, at least she fed me!
So let me get this straight Ruby intentional moved the older girls to someone’s house because she was ‘leaving’ and that person was okay with that since they needed help ‘cleaning’ ehhh this is all so weird and cult like
The fact that this lady can’t even explain what Connexxions is other than that it’s about being honest and humble
She was so stumped at what to say about that place! She knew things are being found out.
Pam said she didn’t mind watching the girls because she needed help cleaning. What in the world? When I watch someone else’s kids my first thought isn’t to put them to work around my house.
Sure i need some cleaning? Wth?
SHE NEEDS HELP CLEANING !
Right?!? 😮
This story just keeps getting stranger by the day!
Who the F thinks that when they’re going to watch kids, that means they’re going to clean my house? She needs to be investigated! I hope to god they’re doing that behind the scenes.
It's ironic that she says "I knew Franke through Connexions, it's a life skills type thing" and "It's a family emergency!"
Pam needs to he investigated for abuse too.
These people who didn’t save or report the abuse of the children are complicit. They should be held accountable too.
The plot thickens after soooooo many complaints for years even
"I didn't really know her well, but I know her really well maybe 3 years"
🤣
WHO ELSE IS INVOLVED WITH THEM THAT PRACTICES THIS BRUTAL STYLE OF "PARENTING"
Pam is guilty & involved in the child abuse- look how WELL FED she & her husband are, yet they don’t bat an eye at the STARVING CHILDREN with OPEN WOUNDS (assuming they all have some) and make them WORK instead of just being nice and spending time with them - nah, they’re literally punishing the kids. Smh 🤦♀️
I think Kevin was probably detained
I find it Odd that she couldn’t describe to the social worker what connections is. She was fumbling her words. She also kept referring it as “their program” not taking any ownership in the role she played in connections.
Sure I'll look after your kids cuz I need help cleaning. wtf
The dcfs officer asked about what they do in conecxions and it seems like she was clueless lol ( the president of conexions) 😮 she could just hire cleaners instead of getting the girls to do it
Life skills😂 Lady you 45yrs old! She was enamored with Ruby Franke and paid her to hang out. She thought she was friends with the cool kids.😂😂
What a great group of people.
I don’t know her really well.. followed by I’ve known her really well for 3 years and use her kids to clean my giant house…
Sounds like Pam was using the kids to clean her house ...investigate all of these people. They sound complicit in the abuse.
Yes I'll take your kids for the day, I have cleaning that needs done. Is any adult going to come out of this looking like the cared for these kids at all?
Did Pamela say she could use some help cleaning when Ruby asked her to take the kids?
So much for truth and honesty, that fraud of a person was pretending like she had nothing to do with connexions 😡
This case just keeps getting more fascinating!! After hearing an overview of what happened to people Jodi H. worked with, I’ve been taking a deep dive. Im guessing by the time it’s done, Jodi H will be a bigger story than Ruby Franke.
😔sadly that is TRUE.
"Yeah, sure, I could use some help cleaning"? Is she for real? I guess if she is Jodi's BFF, she has no qualms using kids to get her own chores done.
‘Ya sure they can come over, because I need help cleaning’. Can someone explain that to me? She used other people’s children to get her house cleaned? Did they do a good job? Did she also only feed them once their chores were done and the house got cleaned?
She is trying so hard to hide what Conexxions really is. She looks scared.
We owned a residential cleaning business for ten years. Full disclosure - all of our employees were adults. Just sayin. 😮
Grown woman..clean your own house!!!
That's what I though! Getvoff your lazy a$$ and clean, she looked pretty capable!
She needed the girls to help her clean🙄
The woman who was picking up the girls for Ruby -Yes " I need help cleaning". Prayers that these children find a loving home.
It’s like an infomercial. Just when you think it’s over,,,,but wait!!! There’s more!!!