EXCLUSIVE: Police speak about 2 more people initially seen as suspects in 8 Passengers abuse case
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- čas přidán 27. 03. 2024
- Kevin, the husband of Ruby Franke, was interviewed for about 45 minutes by investigators with the Washington County Sheriff’s Office on August 30, 2023, the day his wife was arrested for child abuse.
He told investigators he was asked by his wife to move out of their house and not contact any of their children in July 2022.
Kevin told investigators this was due to his own, "addictions" and help he needed with "pornography."
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I don’t believe for a second that a college professor doesn’t know the meaning of “Emaciated”
Emanciated means many different things. As the officer listed all that was wrong with the 2 children I could understand as a human that these kids were much more injured that emanciated could also be thought of.
isn't he a professor too?
Perhaps he has the belief in food deprivation so is coving his a*" to come back later and pretend that the kids were fine.... But the cop used the words not able to sustain life and shut down that potential argument
@@monkhasheart He never objected when Ruby withheld food from the children. He needs to go to prison too. He was totally as guilty as Jody and Ruby. They controlled him as much as they controlled the poor children.
@@starsrgood I think the police detective described exactly what it means, as opposed to, perhaps, a colloquial usage.
Kevin NEVER ASKED HOW HIS KIDS WERE!
I KNOW! I was late to follow this entire story, but that struck me right away, right away.
He was relegated to wallet.
Right!! He’s just as VILE! He also tried to have his own daughter arrested for taking stuff for her siblings out of the family house!
Something's not right about that dad.
@@wncheidisomething’s not right with the PARENTS
After knowing about what happened to the youngest children, he wanted his oldest daughter arrested.
Let that sink in 😮
Exactly!! Horrible dad, Horrible person.
Mormans
@@antoniohorta5656more like Morons 🤦🏻♀️
Thank you!!!!
He assumed shari broke into the house instead of the police breaking into the house that’s why he wanted shari arrested they did fix the door and the were in the house
As a father, I don’t interpret his reaction as authentic. But then again, as a father, I can’t fathom the concept of permitting some evil quack to separate me from my children. Very, very strange people. It’s difficult to know where to start.
Agree. I don’t believe that act of his. He showed no concern for his kids, no anger nothing.
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He never asked why am I here or how are my kids! He also refused to say how they disciplined their kids! Easy question! We use time out or we have consequences like taking away phones! No normal person says I don’t want to talk about it!
@@candaceewell9582 yes! Exactly!
“I just wish I’d been a better husband”…..??!!!!!! “I trust my wife. I love my wife”. It’s like his own children are nowhere on his radar!!!!
Pulling Jody out of the house never gets old
Woah woah woah ...
"I have my attorney on the phone"
"That's great..."
🤣
The rising panic in her voice and on her face was wonderful!!
🤣@@DBDB-sl9qs
The panic when she realizes she can’t control the narrative
4:59 A dad who has been summoned to a police station, is asked point-blank "Are you aware of the physical condition of your children?," and DOESN'T immediately react with grave concern, has something very wrong with him.
The only thing I’m clinging to..is that he can’t believe Ruby would hurt them very badly so he doesn’t ask because he thinks well maybe it’s just some bruises. Unlikely…but benefit of the doubt. It’s hard to think of someone you loved as an abuser…you just do t think it’s possible.
I would have LOST IT. This dude is just as sick as the demon Ruby.
He indeed wasn't aware at all! He was in shock hearing about how they were. Until then Jodi convinced him during these 14 months that his children were doing better since he left the family
@di3486 you don't know how you would react and just assume something.
In reality, people react very calmly from the outside. That's not a tv show.
Evil
I can't believe the Police fell for this "clueless dad/I am so naive" act. Seriously??smh When Kevin wanted the police to arrest his daughter, we see the real Kevin. Arrogant, controlling...just like his students at BYU described him! How is it that he isn't facing any consequences is beyond me.
Exactly. To not even ask how his children were. That would be the first thing that would pop into my head. Not him, he was concerned about Ruby. Unbelievable!
I'm knew to this case why the heck did he want his daughter arrested? 😮
@@smaldonado1309 ..because she accessed the family home and took some laptops, then returned his - the police wouldn't press charges as she had legitimate rights
@@constantinoplecat the nerve how horrible sad..I'm glad the boy broke out and got help
@@smaldonado1309Story I heard was a door was busted in and anyone could have walked in. She took some diaries and laptops for safe keeping. He accused her of theft and wanted her arrested (note: he hadn't been in house for over a year).
Kudos to the elderly man who realised something was wrong and immediately called an ambulance & law enforcement.
KEVIN SHOULD NEVER GET THESE KIDS!!
Agreed! He is complicit in so many ways...
He hasn’t shown any concern for their well beings
Neither should ever see those kids again. Unless there are legal peppers saying otherwise he is a custodial parent n should be charged for neglect. He neglected to check n make sure they were doing ok.
I no he talks to ruby from jail. And supports her nasty butt! I would not ! But he didn’t care bout their well being said I just paid the bills! He’s just as bad as her almost 😢
Unless you can give a good reason just why then I think he should have custody of his own children.
Pam and her husband should have been charged with child exploitation at a minimum.
Absolutely
Oh but she needed her house cleaned.
Yeah, you would think! I've hired teenagers for our household stuff, and paid them between $15 and $35 an hour.
Ruby is making out Jodi made her do this to those poor innocent kids,but she treat them badly before she met her,how dare those 2 vile people do this to another human being, worse cos it,s her children,her husband must have seen the abuse before he left ,they should never be let out of prison
They need proof.
Jodi knew Russell had run off. She did not call and report a minor missing. She called her lawyer and waited for police to show up. She knew she was doing something egregiously wrong. She knew she was in trouble.
because she checked the house and when she realized he was gone and she knew her time was over
So the fact that Pam was using the two children in her "care" as slave labor doesn't count as abuse. You do chores at home for your family, you don't get passed around to others to clean for them, that is child labor and those kids surely weren't getting paid.
Well, the Amish would do this.
That's the tip of the iceberg.
If they had crossed state lines, a charge for Human Trafficking actually could have been made. That’s what took down John Geddert of USA gymnastics notoriety.
I cleaned house & did the ironing for my family of 7 from the time I was 7. I didn't know any better because it was the activity I got the most positive feedback for from my mother. Mommy Dearest.
@@ice9594 yes at home, not at a strangers house.
I don't think the father should have the kids either.
ditto, he's as brain dead as the women are
Kevin Franke's first response to all of this was to sue his oldest daughter. 8 Passenger videos clearly show he and Ruby were abusive parents long before Jodi came into the picture. He is a monster, just like Ruby and Jodi and shouldn't ever have custody of his children.
She was going to get the videos of the real abuse , the demonic parents trafficking the children.. What else was he so frightened of her collecting in their home?????? Allegedly in my opinion.
That was so unbelievable to me too. He wanted to protect his EVIL WIFE and have his innocent daughter arrested! F him! How is he going free?
That was before he started to turn on his wife though. Likewise listen to the second interview. He mentions a blue notebook or something that he believes Ruby wrote down all of Jodi’s visions which even Pam was involved in. The items his oldest took may have had those which could have been why he’s so upset. Doesn’t make it an excuse at all to try pressing charges for that. But adding that Ruby the whole time is hating on their oldest daughter at the time in jail calls too doesn’t help when it’s Kevin she’s talking with. Given Ruby said her daughter and sisters are the same but she later talks with those sisters I’m hoping that too her opinion on her daughter changed.
As legal expert I get those kind of question very often. That's clearly curiosity here.
He told his wife on the jail phone me call that he would help her get a house to live in when she gets out, and will do whatever it takes. That he still loves her. It scares me to think she could get back access to her kids. He didn’t protect them in the past, so it’s highly doubtful he’d protect them in the future
When the friend and her husband were told about the abuse, neither of them acted surprised or concerned for the kids. Neither of them.
Pam knew everything! The police really dropped the ball on dismissing the charges on Pam.
Why couldn’t she get a cleaning lady
Seems this is what she was doing on a regular basis
Those children is not looking for work they have parents
So why would she have them doing house
@@juliemitchell9905kids with parents do jobs okay, I did too!
Pam Bodtcher LIED in your videos! She was PRESIDENT of ConneXions! She went into 4-5 hour "Intervention Trances" with Jodi and Ruby at Rubys house. They wrote it all down in the Pen Papers! Pam is as bad as those two! She just didn't get caught!!! YET!
@iffyangel3380 I fully agree with you. Just watching her "surprised" reaction on her doorstep, she has an icy cold hear.
& if you look at the bodycam footage she said that the reason those other 2 kids were at her house is because she needed some cleaning done!EXACTLY what Jodi & Ruby did, they made the kids scrub like slaves.
Yes! And Connexions is life skills lol.
Tell the police!!
@@wk8000the police know, all the evidence came from them.
Pam was part of conexxions ,she helped Jodi and Ruby isolate people from there families. This whole cult needs investigation.
Jodi is the most evil person out of them all I believe. Even worse than Ruby.
May be that's why those two daughters were with Pam - the start of the isolation process from family ?
Right? Anyone who was part of this who has kids or deals with kids needs a welfare check. But since dcfs were so complacent in Springville prior, I doubt that will happen. They were teaching this stuff. How many more deranged LDS folks took this advice and are applying it?
As well as the church leader blessing Jodi and all the bishops who referred families to Jodi. Reparations from church leaders and bishops own pockets.
Pam was also was on the board of the Utah Metropolitan Ballet. Makes one wonder if UMB were were sponsors of Connexxions and also had the two middle children clean their house for food.
Kevin never said “can I see my kids? Are they okay? How bad are the injuries ??” You know like any dad would be worried
That father should be charged with neglect and abandonment, wtaf. What a weird and ignorant creep.
There is no A in WTF
@@antoniohorta5656 what the actual F
Agreed he’s a weirdo too
The police officer feels guilty he wasn’t able to save the kids sooner but their “father” hasn’t shown any remorse. In my opinion Kevin does not care at all about his children and should be nowhere near them.
What remorse should he have ? For trusting his wife with their children ?
@@phillipanderson7398a real dad would be regretful he didn’t insist on seeing his kids. He knew that Jodi was a wacko who claimed demons were after her. He knew his wife gave cruel punishments before she ever met Jodi.
A real dad talks to their kids everyday and would insist on weekend visits at the very least!
None of this would have happened if he was seeing his kids.
@@phillipanderson7398
Well, that was a mistake ..
@@phillipanderson7398He should have been THERE. As a father, he is supposed to protect those children from ANY threat. 😡
@@phillipanderson7398 absolutely. Also for being a parent who lost contact with all six kids for over a year. Doesn't every parent need to be with their kids daily like I do?! I can't imagine.
These children should never be placed with their father, EVER! He is s weak individual that will never stand up to protect his kids. He never once asked how his kids were doing, pretended not to know the meaning of the word "emanciated" just a ridiculous, pathetic excuse of a man. He, however, was very worried about his evil wife, the same wife torturing his children, the one that kicked him out of their bedroom to make room for Jody on her bed. Disgusting!!
The older two are reconciled with dad. And I bet the one turning 18 will soon be also.
I suggest previous victims of Jodi file civil suits and relieve her of her millions.
“That’s great, step out of the house” yanks her out 😂😂
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Priceless!
Am I bad for running the video back to watch that part multiple times? 😂😂😂
It will never get old watching the smug entitled look fall off of her face.
I don't see nothing to hilarious about a tragedy that would make me think you're a piece of shit like the rest of them too ain't nothing but a boot licker that's exactly what I think you are you go by what everybody else says you're a sheep you're not a herder you're a sheep think about that I don't think no tragedy is a good thing even though I'm glad they took care of it but yanking somebody around is no better than the people that is called excessive force which was not needed wake up America
If Kevin is that easily manipulated by a crazy woman, then he should NEVER have custody. He would hand them right over to Ruby.
Because if he left then she would've sued him
It's not that simple as leaving
@@SMCwasTaken
Sued him for what ? He was paying for everything while he wasn't there. The courts can't force a parent to see the children...idk what you're talking about.
@@elizabethlacky6068 the court favors to women
Most Judges are simps who see men as the devil, women get less severe sentencing than men which is ridiculous since women want equal rights
That boy is truly stronger and braver and more courageous and amazing than most people I know in real life.
Kevin is a pathetic excuse for a man or father! He saw things were getting weird and crazy with his wife and Jodi while Jodi was living with them and instead of taking his kids away from the situation he decided to abandon them to be tortured by those two monsters. His two youngest kids showed more bravery and courage than he can ever have. He never should be allowed to gain custody of his kids ever again.
Why he never asked the welfare of his children spoke volumes to me. Dear gawd
He only got the terrible news there and then. He would have been in a state of confusion.
@@phillipanderson7398 State of confusion: "What? Are you sure? Where are they? Which hospital? Can I see them? Can we go there right away?!"
BS. Life is not a tv-show.
how he never even came by just to attend their birthdays or like have a video call with them!!! this is 2024 idk how he got away with such a lie, also how does pricesiely remember when was the last month of last year he had contact with them!!! if its been that long i would not even be able to tell when exactly but he was so specific...
@@Sara-iy3oz If you deprived me of contact with my cat and dog for a month, I would despair. But these are children, humans - and you are deprived of important stages and events in their growing up. Missing out on events that will never come around again.
Pam shd be arrested and charged also!!! She is just as evil.
I agree! The way she spoke to police about how they had ice cream and then the girls “help” with housework- attempting to put a positive slant on the situation. She’s evil
@@danart11811 That's what struck me. I would NEVER send my daughter to clean houses and gardens for friends. It is inhumane. Pam was in the thick of Connexions. She knew how it was run.
Pam literally said she had Ruby’s kids art her house to clean her home because she was expecting houseguests!! How are these “detectives” not seeing that as red flags? 🚩 it’s so frustrating that there are still people out there connected to this cult walking free…. The scary part is that most of those people have kids!
2:14 for people don’t understand this.. Russell’s wounds were EGREGIOUS. They were not cut like lacerations around his wrist. They were large chunks of wrist missing as if he’d been mauled by a dog. Same with his legs. His legs were rotting. They had to take off dead, stinking, rotten, sloughing skin. The fact that his wounds weren’t causing him sheer agony….means nerve damage was already beyond repair. He will have egregious scarring to his wrists. I’d be surprised if he didn’t need grafting. There was no closing his wounds together. He will have permanent tissue and nerve damage, likely also muscle damage if not tendon as well.
You could see in the CCTV video that he was having difficulty walking. I agree with you - permanent damage to his legs very likely. I wondered about skin grafts too. In the photos you can actually see white bone 🦴 peeping through the cuts. It’s horrendous.
I could not believe the state of his injuries!!! I’m sure he was septic, or near it, with those kinds of wounds. I don’t think she would’ve stopped til those two were dead :(
I can't believe Kevin is not in jail. These people are all vile. Those poor kids.
it’s not illegal to be an absent father. there’s nothing to charge him with. he was no where near the abuse and hasn’t seen them in over a year. Being a shit dad doesn’t mean you did anything illegal.
They have to have evidence to prosecute
He just got lucky that Jodi is a creep who isolated his family from him. Otherwise I am quite sure he would be arrested too
But he paid the bills 😢😢😮
He allowed plenty of mistreatment on VIDEO years prior. This while area of Utah is disgusting.
I don't believe him and he never ever asked about his kids.
Never!!
A year, a year never asked to speak to his children and he never asked how his kids were- I’m sorry he doesn’t care about his children he never had a RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS OWN CHILDREN! He rather blame a ghost than question Jodi or his wife!
What kind of a person notices that a child is missing and instead of phoning the police, they call a criminal lawyer?
A person who very well knows that what she was doing to the child was cruel and illegal, that’s who.
My hope is that one day, R realizes he is a hero, saving himself and his little sister!
He's got a struggle ahead of him (all of the kids do) but, I believe that this strong and determined young man will persevere!!
Movie and book deal a commin'. Story this dark..........needs a brightside.
That father is just as guilty!
The father should be held accountable for abandoning his children into the hands of psychopaths.
Please tell me they don't say Pam is innocent! She helped Jodi abuse her niece Jesse. She has been abetting Jodi in her abuse for over a decade.
I watched the whole interrogation. The investigator asked the father how he disciplines his children, he responded with "I'm not going to answer that" guy never asked about his kids before or after the interrogation.
Very telling was his wanting his own daughter, Shari, to possibly go to jail for theft! AND his frustration when it was explained as no crime. Something about he was going to do "some research on that". The HECK? He looked genuinely more steamed about his "belongings" taken without his permission than his skeletal, scarred, starved children. His emotions do not seem to track with those of a loving father. L.
@daveandrade8189 no, that's a perfectly normal question for anyone who knows little about the legal system (robbery is obviously the wrong term) and who is surprised about the reaction of law enforcement.
I get those kind of curious questions many times.
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I think the Bishop needs to be brought in and charged, there will be plenty of other children coming forward soon. He sent many parents with children to that unhinged woman
The Mormon church officials definitely need to be held accountable. That may expose their Non-christian religion as nothing but a tarted up cult!
By this time, she no longer worked for the church. That ended in 2012. They wanted her license revoked. The state chose to suspend itt only. That is when she started doing more life coaching and came up with conexions. So, this has nothing to do with the LDS church other than word of mouth by others using her as a life coach.
@@kristinabrockman6700 her license was only revoked for 12 months. In the mean time the bishop sent many families, with young children to see Jodi.
@@jeniferwatton7994 no. The Bishop was fooled by Jodi and made a mistake in recommending her, but the LDS Church itself does not make recommendations like that. It just isn't done. You are merely stating your opinions but you don't know how things really work in the church. The church is fully against any and all abuse. For your information the LDS Church worships Jesus Christ as the Savior of the world. It's clear you have some bias but you are not well informed.15:33
@@janicesellers3618 wow! You’re sticking your head in the sand, Janice. You don’t know as much about your church as you think you do.
They absolutely DO recommend therapists. This wasn’t just a one-off. It also wasn’t just one bishop that sent members to her.
As for the Mormon church following Jesus Christ. Remember the songs Praise To The Man, and Follow The Prophet?
I’d be losing my mind if I thought my dog was being held and Kevin doesn’t even bat an eye. And WTAF is BYU hiring if a “professor” can’t define the word emaciated?! That officer is more concerned about Kevin’s kids than he is…just a bizarre reaction.
WTF has no A involved
Seeing Jodi pulled out of the house feels like a deleted scene from Matilda 😂
He refuses to answer how they discipline the kids????? Guilty!
Every discipline recorded on video is not illegal. So he is innocent.
Kevin’s ignorance is NOT a free pass. His neglect allowed the abuse.
It’s disgusting that Kevin Franke isn’t being pursued for his involvement. His claim of not knowing anything about his children and very harsh parenting in their home over the years of YTube videos is bs.
He was publicly witnessed on CZcams as involved in their harsh treatment of their kids for years! He’s a despicable liar and terrible father. What’s wrong with this community? Investigate Kevin and the Mormon church leaders who supported Jodi!!
That so called father should be in jail also. He knew and is as crazy as she is!
Ruby and Jodi were NOT sentenced to jail.
@@Ausgar-yc1yl will you accept the word prison Mr. Correctol?
@@laceybanter5937 Wow, you are incredibly triggered.
@@Ausgar-yc1yl😂 too funny
@Ausgar-yc1yl You must have a mirror in your house. Look in it.
Kevin tried to press charges on one of the older daughters for taking evidence from their home after this
I will never get tired of listening to that police officer dressing down Mr. Franke when he starts talking about the condition of the kids and the warrant. His voice changes, his punctuation. You can hear each and every word with emphasis. I get the feeling he is disgusted.
Oh yes!
@christykloss agreed
That man should never get those children back. He knew for a long time before the arrests of his wife and her girlfriend, that these kids were being abused . He knew his wife had withheld food from their children as a punishment. He knew because he lived there.
Kevin’s reaction to finding out the condition of his children is that of indifference. He did not care.
All he cared about was his pathetic excuse of a wife.
He was probably more concerned about what his wife has disclosed to the authorities. He is scared.
Stop picking on him. Those children need a father.
His reaction was more like "your kid flunked algebra" or something. L.
Yeah he almost acted like, he was done with these people, he send them money and that’s it.
Utah needs to change their sentencing rules for this extreme scenario.
Utah needs to remove religios influence from its policing and court system. These police officers seem very easily manipulated as does the prosecutor Clark...he's a piece of work that guy.
I'm Australian. I can tell you that this place called Utah is weird beyond my imagination. So stunningly beautiful yet so much LDS crazy. It's a cult from my point of view. The criminal justice system there is wrong and needs an overhaul. Bonkers.
Absolutely agree with you! I am not from there and so I wouldn’t carry any weight in that discussion, but hopefully those from there will push for that.
@@screamoguy100 how are the police officers manipulated? I think they handled it very well, considering the horrific nature of the children.
Mormon anything should be abolished. Obviously it is a cult religion. Just like all the others. Lori Daybell/Vallow also was Mormon and spoke brainwashed nonsense.
I will never tire of hearing that officer say "That's great. Step out...."
"GOTCHA"
Put Pam in jail
a court case first or we just throwing her into prison just like that ?
Investigate her business practices. Use of the children.
Kevin is seriously Stockholmed by Ruby. My left butt cheek had more grief over those kids than he had. What is emaciated, Kevin, really?? You taught as a university professor, but you don't know from emaciated???
Cucked is not "stockholmed." he's a pushover negligent nobody.
Yes, he's so educated-duh!!
Idk. "Stockholm-ed" is a bit lenient. He is an adult who failed his kids; he was no prisoner, but his KIDS WERE. He abandoned them for a year, knowing she is a MONSTER. Neglect and ignorance are not a defense. He is a coward.
it's called codependent personality. Narcissists ALWAYS pair with codependents because no other personality disorder will support and enable abuse and crimes of the narcissist long term. It's like the groveling worshipping Redfield serving Dracula.
Of course, he asks what that means.
The word is a conclusion from several facts. The officer lists these facts, and then the father understands that this is really serious.
If he had known the situation, he would have understood directly and had not asked further.
Dude doesn’t even ask how his kids are, just pretends to be surprised
Exact
Those infamous "whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!" have already become legendary and we really need them as a cling tone, as memes and everything else!
Seeing R's thin, wounded legs literally made me cry.
I am a lifelong pacifist but I confess that Jodi Hildebrandt was very lucky that she got those policemen and not me on her door that day...
"Truth and distortion," my ARSE.
Fukking monster.
In the jail phone calls between Ruby and Kevin, he literally says he'll do anything to keep the "truth" in the family and try to get custody of the kids. The 'truth' is her and jodi's whole MO they talked about all the time. Meaning, if he gets custody he plans to continue this ab*se, etc with the kids.
Exactly!! This needs to be understood and investigated thoroughly.
Deshalb ist es ausnahmsweise gut das dieser schlimme Missbrauch durch so viele Länder ging somit hätte ....falls...was ich nicht hoffe...der Vater die Kinder zurück bekäme...er überall bekannt wäre . Das gleiche gilt für die anderen Monster. Und ich hoffe das durch so schreckliche Dinge die Menschen mehr sensibilisiert sind um mehr darauf zu achten was rechts und links passiert. Ich lebe mit meiner Familie in einem Dorf wo jeder ,jeden kennt. Hier achtet man noch aufeinander.
After 22 years, Ruby realized she only needed a wallet, not a husband.
Yep😅
Oh she needed a husband all right...a husband named Jodi.
Jodi became Rubys new husband.
When you are an engineer and a college professor but have to be told what emaciated means. I hope he never gets custody of the younger 2. He seemed to be fine with the way she disciplined all of the kids. He asked more about his wife than he did his children who have been tortured for months. Didn't even try to have contact with the 2 kids outside of the home. Wanted his daughter arrested for taking things out of the home when police came. These 2 are terrible parents. Neither deserves a relationship with their kids. My thoughts on Pam, the police came for one daughter and it was about an hour before she and her husband said the 2nd daughter was there. The police even asked if they knew where she was and Abby closed the door. All of the adults are shady.
I just love the cops pulling Jody out of that house. Feels SO good to see her getting to see shes not in charge.
Kevin should be arrested! He's not Clueless as he seems..before Jodi came into the picture, he shared Ruby's same discipline thoughts/ideas? He didn't seem concerned one bit to find out about his son or young daughter? The officer had to explain to him about, "if he condoned this type of treatment"? Wow..callous as sh##!👹
So sad and sickening to think anyone could do this to children then to realize Ruby knew and participated in it. Those poor kids should never have to see her again.
And Ruby journaled everything she was doing. Jodi is evil, and she was the mastermind behind this abuse
Her parental rights should be severed. Disgusting excuse for a mother.
@@jennymolnar1827Ruby was abusing her kids long before Jodi came on the scene.
@ice9594 Absolutely, 100% and so was Bonnie.
This dad should also be charged.. Foolish man.
"That's great, stop out of the house."
😂😂😂
Great opportunity for a class action suit against Jodi and those enabling her.
This so called father should be in prison too! Period.
Kevin was a professor at BYU ,BUT HE DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THE WORD” EMACIATED’ WAS???? Flipping liar!
The morman church supported and backed Jody even though many victims complainted to the church. Obviously the cult still recommended jody to members. They need to be held accountable to some degree.
The shepherds should know their flock.
The judges and attorneys know who they are and it’s a big protection racket now …cya
I’m trying to imagine my husband agreeing to no contact with his kids. I’m trying to imagine my dad agreeing to no contact with me as a child. They both would have fought to the deth to not let that happen.
Kevin is a weak weak man and a bad example of a father.
My husband would move hell to be with his kids.
he is a psycho just like them.
First you have to be a Mormon who believes P* RN is such a major sin you need to be separated. Because you will lose your job and position in the church and Jodi Hildebrandt calls all your shots and controls your whole life. Walk a mile in a Mormon’s shoes.
Why were the Franke girls cleaning that woman's house? Did she pay the girls?
She did not initially. Not sure she paid them to avoid the optics of using child labor.
Pam s house.. she was having out of town guests and the house needed cleaned so when Ruby said she had a dentist appointment, she called Pam to take the 2 middle kids.
They were hidden there!!--Rush, Rush: Hurry, Scurry--SSH!! CULTS HIDING Child Obuse!...This cult is known for this, + Jodi'
Scary, Compound hostage/torture house!!---(*Come on,
Kevin knew!!...Just look at old Passenger video's.)--*Pam knew!! (Look at videos of Jodi's group: Pam was part of Connextions...
She is part of the group and Cult!--How can Police or lawyers in Itah even say they know nothing of this behavior??...unless they are part of this religion, and knew exactly what was happening?---Pam even said: Ruby called her to pick up the girls, per she had an emergency!!-- (Actually Pam only showed 1 girl at 1st,
then later other girl came out!)--Cult Hiding Crimes!
Jodi had structured her life so everybody contributes to HER.
Kevin contributes for the Children.
Children were inconvience so no food or care but used them as slaves.
Jodi convinces Ruth to INVITE Kevin to leave.
All involved are Gaslighted to believe they are no good and need to do as Jodi says to REDEEM themselves.
Typical Religion tactics.
"See Jesus died on the cross"....and its YOUR FAULT that is the thinking applied
Part of their game. Used Ruby's kids for free labor. She was so happy to have access to Ruby's kids to use.
Ruby had such disconnect with her children she didn't care who used them. Probably thought lending them out made her look good to Pam.
I despise these woman so much.
Its a CULT.
A cult within a cult.
@@mossyoakmom8880 Indeed
Scientology with "bishops" making the rules
@@jaspersteve9420yep and their Jesus is their made up Jesus. Not the Real Jesus of the Bible. They teach their Jesus is the brother of Lucifer and they will be their own gods of their own planet that’s why they have so many kids. They are ALL BRAINWASHED. And disgusts me they want to claim they are Christian’s. The BOM is nothing close to Christianity!
Mormons@@jaspersteve9420
Arrest kevin already
Jody said that anger was her favorite emotion. There is something seriously wrong there!!
I think that officer has been changed! He’ll be watching for such much more than he was before on patrol. He’s a good officer.
Jodi is one messed up woman. For her to think she was actually helping anyone!!!! Sounds like she was projecting her own feelings (shame, etc.) onto others. Grrr.
She’s a licensed psychologist, scary.
I'm sure in her heart she knows she's just a hater. These people are liars (sociopaths etc.)
She was a sadist and so was mama.
HOW DOESN’T A FATHER SEE HIS MINOR CHILDREN IN MORE THAN ONE YEAR!!! - HOW ISN’T THAT NOT NEGLECT???!!! HOW DO WE AS A MODERN SOCIETY - JUST KEEP LETTING ABSENTEE FATHER GET AWAY WITH THIS KIND OF ABUSE & NEGLECT???!!! - SO TOO EASY TO LEAVE & NOT BEING THERE FOR THEIR CHILDREN!!! - THIS MAN & OTHER MEN LIKE HIM - SHOULD ALSO BE CHARGED & LOCKED UP!!! HOW IS THIS JUSTICE⁉️ - IT’S NOT FOR THE CHILDREN‼️ -
😡👎😡👎😡👎😡
He could have gone to family court and demanded regular access but he chose not to.
I watched Kevin´s ful interview. He was more concerned about Ruby then about the Kids!!
He knew...Pam knew she or her husband never asked what happened to the 2 children and showed no emotion when they found out
I watched that video with the two older girls n that couple. The way that girl looked to that man before answering is a big red flag. Folks this is what human trafficking looks like. It's not always the stereotype but very subtle of your free will being taken away. It's taken n one looks to the person holding them for everything. Those girls were there cleaning. Domestic trafficking is real n this is it. There should be a hard look at these people. Right under the nose of upper middle America.
Yes those Pam couple is definitely suspicious
And they way they reacted when they were to,d they were going to Sharis house. They didn’t want to go until the officer said it’s either that or foster care. Just shows how much Ruby brainwashed them against their older sister when Shari was always so good to them when she lived at home. Also in Rubys diary she mentions that her daughter J is at Jodie’s house with them …so J knew what was happen I guess and didn’t get help for her siblings…just shows Ruby put the fear of God into those girls to not speak to the police …to not tell on them…to not have contact with their sister ….or they’d be punished too. No one mentions the older girls much but they will have a lot of emotional trauma to recover from. They are going to feel so guilty for not saving their siblings …but it wasn’t their fault.
The police seem a bit disingenuous in this story...how many times were they called out to ruby's house on suspicions the children were being abused....FOR YEARS....and they did nothing.....shame on them all.
Exactly. They could have stopped this years ago.
He was deciding how to answer. He knew the physical condition. He was trying to figure out how not to get into trouble. He was conveniently clueless.
I di not trust Ruby's grammy speech at sentancing. I do not trust her full stop. As for Jodi she must face legal action from Jessi and should never be free
Great coverage of this case!
I followed 8 passengers since 2015. Kevin and Ruby were abusing and exploiting their 6 children then. Kevin should be charged as well!
I watched Ruby's sister Ellie's channel 10 years ago during her infertility challenges and now raising her 4 children.
Ruby's other sister, Bonnie, exploits her 4 children for clicks and views.
I feel awful for watching all of the Griffith families content. Even Ruby's parents were YouTubing. 😢
I'm an ex Jehovah Witness, and the LDS religion is very similar.
I stopped watching all their content. I'm only following this case and all the great coverage Brian.
Kevin needs to be charged!!!
Yes, I agree with you on Bonnie. She is very strange like her sister Ruby. Gives off the same kind of parenting.
Did you report it to CZcams? I'm glad you got out of the LDS.
So... I'm not accusing you,
BUT if you thought something was wrong,
did you ACT???????
Actually, the LDS Church has little in common with Jehovah's Witnesses.
@@maryhurley5884 🙄
Oh sure, he’s a plcollege professor but he doesn’t k know what the word; “ emaciated” means. He was part of it when they were doing their CZcams videos. He thought it was ok to not see nor even talk to his minor children for a full year ? That in itself is neglect. And he wanted his older daughter arrested after she was the trying to care for the younger ones . This guy is not innocent, he’s complicit. He only cares about Ruby not about his poor tortured kids.
Kevin didn’t look shocked at all cause he didn’t care all he asked about was ruby monster!
What Adam Steed said maybe the most chilling thing of the whole case!!!
Time stamp 13:35
Thank you for the time stamp, most people don't do that and it's immensely helpful!!!☺️
The dad was aware and should be charged
If law enforcement doesn't charge kevin as well ,then shame on them! Im sorry but hearing how your children were taped up with bruises and not knowing what "emaciated meant" is just ridiculous! My 9 year old can tell you what emaciated means. This guy can afford a million dollar house and pay all the bilks but needs an explanation of the wors emaciated?! Ya right! Any parent hearing this mistreatment who had no knowledge woukd be freaking out! He didn't ask how the daughter was or if they will be okay
This makes me absolutely sick.
The police believing Kevin makes me distrust them. He’s guilty only worried about Ruby throw him under the jail
What is he guilty of?
that EMT seems like such a wonderful person. She did an amazing job.
Still waiting for the LDS church to denounce Jodi after all the hundreds of people they sent to her over the years and that suffered from her manipulation.
He knew. Lock him up
He didn't know? . Then prove it.
So he's bad because he trusted his wife ?
Pam and Kevin are very much involved and Kevin is still romantically loyal to his wife, divorce (temp) or not- it’s only to get custody of the kids so they can continue torturing them!
They’re sick people!
Pam showed no signs of surprise at all when the officer told Pam that the two Franke kids were found abused, no shock, no questions of how are the kids? She knew. She and Jodi were just smart enough not to talk about it over text or in phone messages.
I do not believe that Franke or Hilderbrand should be eligible for parole until they have served at lest 10 yrs in prison.
It is the parole board that will be making the decision on when Franke and Hilderbrand are eligible for parole or be released from prison.
Therefore, I believe that all those who were physically and mentally traumatised by Franke and Hildebrand that subjected these children and others to horrific, cruel, and despicable abuse should be notified and able to attend all the parole boards hearings that are considering whether Franke and Hilderbrand should be released on parole.
At least the victims of Franke and Hilderbrand will get to say why they agree or agree or disagree why these two women should be allowed parole regardless of any stipulations placed on them by the parole board.
These were two woman that thought they could get a way with abusing children. The irony is it was a child of Franke that brought these two women down.
Well done to that brave young man. He deserves all the love and happiness he so rightly deserves.
All the victims of Franke and Hilderbrand should receive compensation from these two women. Hilderbrand can sell her house to pay compensation to the victims. Franke house should be given to the children to live in and dad should pay child support to the children.
Its about time UTAH, ID, WY get a LD$ wake up call on how kids are treated. Then maybe CPS & LEOs will get a break.
It has nothing to do with the LDS religion. That kind of behavior is never sanctioned. They were living their own little cultish lifestyle.
Oh my goodness!!! The LDS Church is against any and all abuse. Your anti bias is bigotry. You believe any garbage that the anti Mormon community dishes out. You are not informed at all. My guess is that Ruby will be excommunicated if she hasn't been already. She is nuts and so is Jodi. This is strictly against abuse. The LDS Church is NOT pushing this crap.
@@lindabartholomew6435please! Their own “little cult”within a larger cult!
@@lindabartholomew6435 It definitely does have everything to do with mormonFoundations and sick psycho patterns learned in that cult! Been there done that got out after being a temple mormon for years! Once again pending on ones country, state, situation And reality. Unfortunately I grew up LD$- Live in the area of Ruby & Jodi and see all the foundations of disrespect & abuses of mormonism patterns such as Megan Huntsman, Height Family, Chad Daybell, Alex Cox, Lori Vallow (ongoing trials) There is a lot to be said about these sick patterns & mormonCults.
Kevin fakes emotions in regards to his kids- he only cares about money and Ruby. Literally nothing nor anyone else.
Botcher played stupid, especially about connections !!