8 PASSENGERS SPECIAL: Unseen evidence in Ruby Franke, Jodi Hildebrandt child abuse cases revealed
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- The Washington County Attorney’s Office has released previously unseen evidence in the Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt child abuse cases.
The two women were sentenced in February on second-degree aggravated child abuse charges after pleading guilty in December.
As part of a plea agreement, prosecutors dropped two counts from the original six. The women were both sentenced to no more than one to 15 years behind bars on the four remaining counts, to be served consecutively.
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When the 16 year old contacted the police, they should have been STOPPED. That was in 2012.
Nobody would believe Jessi Hildebrandt 15 years ago!
Exactly. Police don’t often believe victims unless it’s so obviously presenting like in this case.
@@maurajonperovich3997correct, Jessie had no visual marks on her body. She does tell the same story as Ruby does, and the whistleblower did.
Its not just the police, its the Mormon church not believing it or the kids.@maurajonperovich3997
It’s worse than that. I think they believed it. They just didn’t believe it was bad enough to cross an imaginary boundary in their minds, between acceptable abuse as corporal punishment and unacceptable abuse that is beyond the pale. I think they thought she was a spoiled brat exaggerating a bit and she and her siblings deserved discipline. There’s a problem that is common in certain areas, where people believe in corporal punishment. Generational trauma skews the ability to perceive abuse.
It’s tolerated to an extent as proper treatment to raise children. Especially in communities where these outdated practices and ideology have altered the perception of an entire society. You can see it in the news reports on this case that began by saying « it was worse than we all thought ». They have to validate the fact it was abuse. Justifying the attention and intervention and persecution of the abusers. To validate the attention gained by this case, for it’s integrity - by these people who were influential, selling an ideal lifestyle - to tell everyone it’s not just bc everything they did was exaggerated under a microscope of public scrutiny.
That little emaciated, timidly determined boy whose legs had been wrapped in cayenne pepper, honey and duct taped until they were infected and skin sloughing off, that CHILD who respectfully knocked on the door despite his emergency and, politely asked the neighbor to please take him to the police station, despite being in pain and suffering and starving, he didn’t look evil to me. You know who does??
Honey and cayenne!!?!??? Seriously?! Wow
Unbelieveable
Honey an cayenne pepper, plastic wrap then duct tape over tht, so tht plastic wrap kept any air frm getting to the wounds, no wonder the skin peeled off! Ruby has no right to call herself a mother
@@pinkcats7533 The cayenne pepper was to make it feel all better
@@pinkcats7533 cayenne pepper is extremely beneficial to the body and she was using it to heal the wounds on his ankles and wrists from being bound. She was trying to heal the evidence against her
There should be no plea bargain in severe child abuse like this.
the reason they do a plea is to avoid these poor children from having to testify as it re victimises them
@@kittencatlover156did they ask the kids?
@@KrisD007Good point.
Living in a mansion, running a CZcams channel whilst abusing, starving and destroying their children? Unbelievable!
OMG they are pure evil, torturing those poor children for so long. Why didn't the father see this and stop it? He didn't care I guess...
The nerve of them to abuse their kids n still make videos for CZcams.🤦🏽♀️ it’s sick n entitled.
horrible
Social media at it's worst.
They are despicable for hurting these kids
t"this is a witch hunt" Yea. and they found TWO!
Witch hunt × two !😢
Is the witch hut you sound like a mega moron Christian Evangelistic white supremacist maybe Hildebrand should get ahold of you and teach you how to repent your sins
You sound like you're one of those Mega morons with your witch hunt statement
Mormon Cult witches...stunning evil...
Love this comment. The demons were not the children, but these two are! Beyond evil!
Neither of the women asked, how are the children?! How disgusting
kevin didnt either in either of his interviews...how can a father with hearing the injuries of his son not want to know how he is??
That’s because both women know how they are and what state they left them in
@@jeremybilbrey1133right? He was only concerned about Ruby. He's a pathetic emasculated wimp.
Why are you surprised?
@@irrelevantideology9640exactly, Jodi had tried to find him & couldnt. She went back to the house and cleaned up the little girl & dressed her, called her atty & just waited.
Both of these women need to be locked up for life.
I hope they are not going to see and have access to those child again. They are both too dangerous for them.
It took first responders 4 hours to get that poor little girl out of that closet 😢
That lady paramedic was absolutely heartbroken by what she saw with Russell the boy that escaped and alerted the neighbor. Cutting Eve the little girls hair off was nothing more than more punishment and abuse. This entire story makes me physically sick!
They both are of the devil!
@@1STLAR2147 yes the shaving of E’s head was extremely sad to hear knowing it was done as punishment. Poor kids I hope they can heal from this . R is definitely a hero .
I hope these poor babies can have a normal life after this, that poor little girl was so weak and so scared 😢 Jodi Is a cow and clearly stuffed her face while two babies were being starved 😢 EVIL !!! was Ruby staying at Jodis house while this was happening? Does anyone know ?
@@MrDavenezI believe she was staying at the cow’s house, not entirely certain, but it seems so. As Russel and Eve were in the house, and Ruby’s journal talks about the “punishments” that she and the cow did, so it’s highly likely ruby lived/stayed with Jodi.
They both need to b put in prison for life !!!!
They are both up for parole in 4 years and can't get more than 30.
They’ll be out in less than 3 years.
@@Tracydot3not true. They’re both eligible for parole in 18 months.
100% completely abusive and completely nuts. dangerous.
I agree. What they did to those children they should be locked up for life and not be released. Once they are in prison they should suffer every single day what they have done to those children
Only 83% said they should get max punishment. What's wrong with people?
the other 17% are prob doing the same 🤬
they're up to no good or don't know any better...
That's Utah for you, land of the LDS.
@@vulgar_scabby_beaverwhat LDS?
@@K_Z_Rleft drangement syndrome
That boy is a hero!! He saved his and his sister's lives! That poor boy looked like he'd been in a concentration camp. Just horrific!!
Jody told her husband that they were treating him like a hero. That pissed her off. Kevin is a coward and a fool. Those kids deserve a home with parents outside the mormon machine.
He should never get the children back. What a spineless, mealy-mouthed little simp.
@@jeanwinders9556her name is Ruby
@@jeanwinders9556 do you mean Ruby? Jodi does not have a husband. I am hoping those kids are not in a Mormon foster home. Does anyone know how Russell and Eve are doing? I wonder if the oldest sister, Sheri, is in touch with them or any other members of the family.
i said the same if you see the picture of the holocauste and you see the body of the boy it's the same you can see his bones and the back also,his wounds you can see the flesh close to the bone,
Ruby is just as guilty as Jodi, she’s just trying to save herself from being in prison for 30 years. She deserves just as many years as Jodi and hopefully the parole board sees that. They didn’t even ask how they were doing. Ruby has been abusing them for years.
They need to be in prison for life no questions asked!
I think she’s worse, personally, I think Jodi is very mentally ill, if we were to hook Jodi up to a lie detector, although she knew she was hurting the children, I think she believed they were evil and she was getting the demons out, I think Ruby thought no such thing, I think Ruby just enjoyed harming her children, and psycho Jodi gave her permission, which was all she needed.
Jodi opened the door knowing exactly what was happening.. She is pure EVIL
As if it wasn't bad enough, they were planning on buying land to escalate what they were doing to the children. They were already so close to dying. They would have buried them on that land. Thank God for RF getting help.
Sounds like the house they planned to but would be where the killed E and R
When Ruby’s journal entry was read where it said the part about “Boom! We’d drop them so quick.” Or whatever she said…that was CHILLING.
and ruby said "they would never go home" which means only one thing ....this should have been an attempted murder case...the prosecuters office and judge are corrupt as the rest of them
@@juleswick she really hates her children so deeply it’s inconceivable to me as mother
@@-ReaganI know. It’s so so disgusting, disturbing, diabolical…she forced her child to stand in the hot sun all day and then PRODED him with a CACTUS!!! She saw how emaciated he was and did NOTHING but continue to torture him. It’s beyond comprehension. 😢
They blame the kids! Ruby and Jodi think the kids are evil. Poor grownups are being picked on.
MS Ruby n Ms Jodi, they are in big TROUBLE, big TROUBLE 😳 🎉
Throw away the key! 🤬
What is most scary to me is how many people were "Influenced" by these monsters. ADVICE on how to raise kids. How many other kids are suffering under these wicked people!
I've wondered the exact same thing.
There’s a lot of people that believe in the devil and unfortunately that type of delusion can lead to this
They don't have followers, People just want a reason to believe that it's not their problem, that it's the child's fault... We have set up the narcissistic family system this way so as not to blame the parents the children are scapegoated ... Sure ruby and Jodi are an extreme case but children have only had rights since the 1970's before that child abuse was more the norm
The great thing is that we have come so far in understanding how the brain. Works and child psychology that we put these old myths to rest
My thoughts exactly!! Their church leaders should be looked into too!
That’s what I would like to know
I love how the cop pulls her out of the house by the telephone and tell her to stay put
These two sound like Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow: the kids are possessed.
And I think they're both mormon?
Ruby looks like lori
They definitely got that backwards
Their genes is what’s wrong with them, and also the thing in common
@@astrialindah2773yes they are.
They are both sick... and Kevin is a coward!
Did u hear his interview? He says Jodi is a honest good woman.
@@doragreen3887 and a week later he went back to the police updating his story....
@@kukustweety1 did they release the updated story? I only saw the initial one.
I have just seen pictures of the injuries and passed out a little bit. All the adults in this story should be locked up.
@@doragreen3887 Yes, I have seen it, they are so out of touch with reality it's dangerous!
The husband is totally a weak man.
“You can’t even raise your kids anymore” says Jodi. Lol. Let me fix that for you Jodi: “you can’t even abuse other people’s kids anymore “.
Jodi saying “I feel like I was meant to be here. God put me here for a reason.” in her jailhouse phone calls after the fact is ironic.
We all agree Jodi.
Sorry to say I wasn't 😢 a very good father , but I wasn't that low !! 😢😢
😂😂😂
Yup. God definitely put her there for a reason.
Amazing Ivins police and medical responders who SPENT FOURS HOURS in a CLOSET waiting until E.F. was ready to come out. Sparring E.F. further trauma and making the 1st gesture to show her they could be trusted. 💔😭💔😭💔
Her journals are horrific. I couldn’t even listen to it all. They would hit RF with a “cactus poker” because his evil side wanted to stand in the shade so they would poke him with a cactus to force him into the sun. Horrific. He said he would rather have a glass of water than Ruby for mother.
Cactuses hurt wtf
What’s a catus poker ? Is it a poker cactus? Or is it a device used to poke cactus?
@@alexaecho4273 ask them. That’s what the journal called it.
And this is southern Utah. I live in Utah. It's HOT down there in the summer. Can easily stay in the 110's, even 120 especially these last few years.
Both are criminally insane
This disgusting mother , to see her son so abused is unbelieveable
My God her call from jail to Kevin she says they did not need to take R to the hospital it was exaggerated (Delusional Behavior).
Hearing their religious justifications for the abuse sounds a lot like the Daybells. I have some severe concerns about those who are ultra-Mormon. Extreme religion is a threat to kids.
I can 10000000% assure you that what they did is against what the church believes.
@@cowsonzambonis6Mormon elders completely supported Jodi.
@@UNOwn-ib1tdwell that church needs shut down
No, FALSE demonic blasphemous religion like Mormonism is a threat to everyone who follows it
@@cowsonzambonis6and yet the Mormons are literally constantly in the news for murder and abuse😂
“Sleeping on the floor”
No, Jodi, she made her niece sleep outside in the snow with a simple sleeping bag. She’s lucky they didn’t die from hypothermia!
I kept thinking about Jessi today while I red Ruby’s Journal. It’s no wonder Jessi ran away too.
Cold as ice 😢
They made Russell sleep outside too.
Exactly
And this all happened to her too except no one took her seriously. She deserves justice too.
This two need the maximum sentence. They’re monsters.
Look at that fuckin door!
That is the biggest residential door I have ever seen.
It’s ginormous
That door is custom and low end estimate 50,000.00.
That lady has a nice big house 🏠 now she will live there no worries 👍 😮
The door to hell! 🔥
So they were planning to "escalate" their torture of the children in Arizona - the only result of more intense torture would be death, wouldn't it? And two dead children buried in the Arizona desert. No one would interfere, no one would ever know, the children would finally be perfectly well behaved. 💔😢
It’s so disturbing 😢 I hope the prisoners take care of them both before they even get released!
Ruby said R doesn’t flinch when poked with a cactus poker…he had a strong determination…he’s more adult than his mom. It’s just proof the mom and Jodi has so many evil demons in THEM not the children
So you buy into demons just like them
He didn't flinch because he knew his punishment would escalate
Hearing about the Abuse was one thing...
BUT SEEING IT? UNFATHOMABLE
I love the part where Jodi says she *won’t* step out of the house! WHOA, WHOA, WHOA! 😂😂🤣
😂
Officer: Step out of the house
Jodi: I'm on the phone with my attorney
Officer: That's great. Step out of the house
@@islesofshoals3551I thought she said on phone to my church?
It's not the children that are evil and possessed!!
"The devil's been after me for years." ? And blaming it on kids ?
Mental faculties gone for a toss.
Well, devil got u busted 😮
The devil has been inside her for years is more likely.
Totally delusional woman convinced she was so superior & righteous but was actually doing the devil’s bidding. Scary.
@@jameslomenzo1139
Supernatural things like gods and devils do not exist.
Humans do evil things, we blame evil, but it's just us.
Humans really aren't a nice species.
my poor small brain, i cant understand all this rich life so much money and their children starving omg i cant even fathom people like this exist
You must a beautiful soul.❤
As a survivor of child abuse the trauma these children will experience throughout their life is unspeakable … The women deserve life in bars like they did to the children !! Prayers for healing in these children
Children are pure innocence . . . . To say they are full of evil is a mental illness all on its own 😳😳
absolutely an excuse
The moment they arrested Jodi was the beginning of the end. The relief these kids must have felt. What a sad story.
Why is the father exempt?
they had split one year before and he had not seen them in that time. The abuse was 3 Months long from what I gather. They moved down with Jody in April and the Boy escaped in August. He was unaware of the abuse but he has not regained custody of the children
There is NO WAY my husband would go a week without seeing his kids. And a day without speaking to them. Kevin definitely failed these kids
@@kittencatlover156Kevin is just as guilty
Thanks @@kittencatlover156
@@shaycade1532 I agree
She was on the phone with her lawyer when the cops got to the door. So that means she knew she was in trouble prior to them getting there.
Look at how tanned his skin is from all of the hours he was forced to stand in the dessert sun…
I noticed that and how red his little face is . Brave young boy 🙏❤️
All I noticed was how skinny he was.
@@janegardener1662 there are photos of his back skin and bones. all the kids are malnourished.
The pics of him in ambulance his skin looks seriously gray😳 like beginning stages of gangrene but I don’t know if that’s true or not. Just my impression.
That dark skin is not from the sun it is signs of kidney and liver failure from malnutrition omg it’s horrible!
The religious insanity is something I know way too personally and went through it throughout my childhood. The mother, father, and their spiritual guide are monsters who should never have been allowed in the company of children, never mind having children of their own, smh. The damage they've done won't be healed for the entirety of their children's lives, and i say this a 50 year old man with one older and one younger sister who have also never been able to overcome the damage sustained as children. Religion is always a great excuse to take humanity out of the conversation, at least imo and what I've learned through my life experience make that to be true.
Pray for the children, they're really going to need it.
I do get it, it took me 72 yrs, 1 mo. & 4 days to get a grip on PTSD due to racist religious fanatical relatives, a pedophile father & some relatives, my grandmother used a whip....long story.
Those journals were beyond the pale .. to say she was just going to "drop her kids in the desert like hot potatoes"
Such a sadist!
And she does and says and writes all this with pure enjoyment.
I find it funny that she was already on the phone with her lawyer. Did she realize that one of them finally found the courage and strength to escape, and got scared? I hope these two women rot in prison until their MAXIMUM sentence is served. No parole for them. I can’t even watch the video of R at the neighbor’s house asking for favors. I cry every time.
The call to her attorney indicates that she was aware that what she was doing was wrong.
I think she would have seen or heard all the activities of vehicles on the main road then check found son gone.
Religion and religious fanaticism often lead to horrific abuse by deluded parents.
More accurately people led by demons using religion as a scapegoat. They pick and choose scripture out of context to support their evil ways.
I've always noticed and curious about why there seems to be a connection between religion and mental illness. ,
To be clear , I'm not saying all religious people are nuts or anything bad about religion,
@@jenniferwilliams9548We’ll do anything to avoid actually blaming abusers for their actions. “It was religion!” “It was mental illness!” No, it was humans freely making the decision to do wrong. PERIOD. And they need to go to prison. No “mental illness” bullshit.
@@Campfire30 When a ton of psychos all share something in common, it should be investigated.
If we can understand how and why people commit these atrocities, maybe we can do more to prevent future incidents .
Nobody is " blaming" religion, for their actions. I'm definitely blaming this dumb bitch for her ruthless and vile abuse of her own children
Thank God these children where saved
we can only hope for the most severe and painful prison justice for these psychopaths ...
It's Lori Vallow all over again - 'God is talking to me. My abuse is justified. I can't be punished for doing whatever I want. God told me to do it. No one understands." This is the same God-Garbage all over again and again and again.
Yet it's a lie, God has nothing to do with it.
@@elisheva7305Oh....on the contrary...you could not be more wrong. Think about it. When Ruby and Jodi were both caught, they both said ON RECORDED AUDIO - "I can't believe that God wants me to end my care for the kids like this....but he told me - this is it. This is your moment. I felt it." Then, once they were arrested and talking on recorded jail calls - "God spoke to me last night. And he said to me - "You are completely misunderstood and this will be your test of faith and torment. God told me last night to hold firm. This is my time, he said." And then, when it was time to plead guilty - "God opened my eyes to what I was doing. He is so wise. He showed me the truth." God is used to justify getting arrested, prosecuted and even convicted. Whatever is most convenient. Religious people are the biggest dullards on the planet.
@@elisheva7305well your ‘god’ did nothing to help these kids.
@@denz4133 There's a concept called free will, God tries to influence us for the better, to do what is right. He hints through other means, He tries very hard to guide and give us the help we need.
Sometimes people refuse outright, they make their own choice.
But sometimes something tragic like this happens, God is taking care of the children and the other victims. Justice is being served out.
And those guilty will be punished by Him, they will be forced to see, feel, understand the pain and suffering they caused to everyone connected to the crime, even remotely.
@@denz4133 Where did my reply go
Why is Ruby so concerned about Jodi in her prison phone call? She should be concerned about her own actions and rehabilitation. Her journal entries made me sob.
These db's are the epitome of evil...
I hope that family doesn't ever get custody of those kids because I'm sure that they're going to try to force those poor kids into "forgiving" Ruby. Her family is acting now like Ruby is the real victim and it's so gross.
AGREE!!! This entire family is toxic. In a 2019 you tube video Grandma tells all the grandkids "I don't pray for your safety, I pray for you to be good" These poor kids....
I cannot thank you enough for covering this story because it needs to be get out there world wide this children abuse is happening To often it needs to stop. The children need to be protected from abuse, they also need to be educated about what is abuse because the abusers will make excuses place the blame on the one who is being abused. That is exactly what these to Women did to the children had them brainwashed in to taking the blame for the abuse. The young boy when he went to the neighbours house he told them it was his fault. Thank God he went for help they helped him, were there for him. I can’t thank them enough enough. The other neighbours didn’t answer, perhaps weren’t home. I am so happy they are out of there. I hope That child protective services have placed them in a very good home they deserve it after all they have been put through.
What is sad is this happens rather frequently with no intervention. I was told by a DA once 'just because they killed one kid does not mean they will kill the others' would not criminally charge nor petition the other kids to be removed from the home. 'Kiddie cops' are still considered low priority.
The child that was killed in my example was drowned in the toilet, wrapped in clear plastic and put in a dead freezer in the back yard.
When you hear people say .. “they hear evil voices in their head “ and hide behind religion.. that’s a psychopath..
The most upsetting part is that they little boy had to escape the house of horrors for the authorities to do something. Just like with domestic violence, until they found you dead they believe you. The were so many opportunities and they didn’t do anything because they’re white privileged people.
They still blaming the children, they’re sick and disgusting. I hope the kids find happiness and help.
Leave race out of this, it had nothing to do with it. The entire community is Mormon, they gave them too much leeway to operate this way.
@RoxyPinson So many abused children only find the help they need if they can escape their home... it is heart rending. I think rather than race and class being explanations as to why or how they got away with this for s-o-o-o long is that they're probably all Mormon in these communities. No one questions those in good standing, when the families are all well-known to the church as well.... and with Jodi being a licensed therapist recommended by all the elders or bishops is part of this story as well...People may have made numerous complaints, but they were certainly overlooked to protect the church, or else people feared the power it has in the state. Race and class certainly do factor into many miscarriages of justice, yet this one is all about small town fundamentalist conformity, and deference to their church's questionable teachings, at the expense of these children's health and well-being. I also wish they can find happiness soon!
8 passengers apparently was on for years and child abuse was displayed in a wide light for years, and still these monsters were allowed to torture these children for years! Mindblowing! Where was school? Where were neighbors?
Ppl tried. There was even a petition.
CZcams ignored all the flags and reports as well. I'm certain they made a tonne of money off these children. It's high time YT did right by the Franke victims and set up a trust with that money. Someone should sue. These types of channels shouldn't be allowed in the first place.
Your question should be “ why did CZcams allow it. All of those kids should sue CZcams. A smart lawyer would help them.
@@phillipsmom6252 Tow are not mutually exclusive: responsibilities of CZcams one one hand and the school/community on the other are slightly different though...and those of
Max prison time for both of them! The plea agreements are RIDICULOUS!
2:20 no it’s not “technically” abusive to make children sleep on the floor-HOWEVER, letting your child’s flesh literally rot off their bones, starving them, and humiliating them IS! 😡
@Lost4ever74. I know! So cruel and heartbreaking😞My little boy kicked off the blankets last night, and we live in New Hampshire so the weather was chilly, and he woke up shivering-that alone broke my heart! I just can’t even imagine making them sleep on a cold hard floor, let alone everything else she did!
Wrong it is abuse if it causes physical and emotional harm and it did
@@barbararuell8199 well no shit😂 we all know that this particular situation WAS abuse! You can’t be this numb, I literally put technically in quotes for a reason! 🙄
Jodi and Ruby are textbook malignant narcissists! The scariest part of that is the sadism! They actually enjoyed inflicting harm on those poor innocent children! It makes me so angry at them and made me cry for those precious angels! WTF?!? They're just kids!!!
l agree. So many people are saying Jodi is a sadist but leaving Ruby out. However, Ruby was doing sadistic things to the kids based on YT footage before she ever met Jodi.
@@katlivesmusic7086yes equally as evil as Jodi both deserve max sentence the full 30 years imo
💯💯💯💯
My theory is he left, because Ruby, and Jody were having a relationship..nobody will admit it because of their religion..
that’s what I was thinking too
This. They were sleeping in the same bed at one point.
The faces of "EVIL"!
Why would a single woman need a huge home like that
It is a prison.
After reading Ruby’s journal I’m EXTREMELY concerned as to why Jodi was spending so much time alone with Julie!! She was clearly ab*sed as well. All the kids have been through ab*se at Ruby’s hands!!
No food in the cupboards but there were chains and tape, then they have the nerve to say you can’t even raise your kids anymore!! I’m glad these women got locked up for a long long time.. I bet you they didn’t see that coming?!
This is the main reason I’m not religious. I went to a Christian school and they used to deprive us of children fun because it was demonic. This shouldn’t exist poor kids I hope they get the maximum locked and Kevin gets responsibility too
I find it interesting how some of these places are so obsessed with Demons, Satan and Hell and never see the darkness is within them-not others.
No True Christian School treats Children like That !! Sorry that happened to You !! True Christian Schools Only Show THE LOVE OF GOD ALMIGHTY! A scripture quoting JESUS speaks of anyone who harms children- "would be better for them that a milstone be tied around them and they dropped in the Ocean". THE TRUE GOD is a GOD of TRUE LOVE ❤
Put them in jail for ever
After seeing this video I understand better what Jessi went through. Jodi doesn’t have a conscience and is a pathological liar and a psychopath.
This in-depth report needs to include the church who payed hildebrandt to “help” families like these. She made big money from the church. You have to ask why didn’t the church use reputable psychologists, etc.? I know they have a lot of power, but to prevent this, you need to shine the light on it❤️
It's NOT a Church It's a Cult !!
Jodi is NOT a Psychologist she is a certified counselor with a psych degree MA only !
She is the CULT leader of this group of people….Master Manipulator and Abuser.
She reminds me of Laurie Vallow...Those poor kids! Smart 12 years old to get ahold of the police...also go to the good neighbors 👍
The LDS ORGANIZATION has a hell of an influence on their HEAVILY DECEIVED and SEVERELY CONDITIONED members.
Scary to think how many other children are silently suffering and waiting to be saved.
It’s unimaginable what these kids had to go through. If it wasn’t for the caring neighbor, when the boy asked him (in a very soft voice) to take him to the police station 😢. If it wasn’t for that brave boy, he and his sister, who was so thin & hungry, very slowly reached for the pizza & water . As far as the other 2 women (especially Ruby) are concerned, they can go to hell, for I care 😡.
Should have had NO opportunity to plea out. They didn't do it for the sake of the 'evil' children having to testify....they did it for themselves. EVERYONE in Connexions, just like NXIVM, needs to be investigated for the sake of all their children. Connexions is still operating.
@Lost4ever74. I am so sorry you experienced such horror and I don't think you're crazy. Based on the story the friend of Ruby's family told about witnessing incest and bestiality, nothing would surprise me. I really wish there had been a full trial....maybe more of the real truth would have been revealed....though I believe the truth lies hidden behind the church. Thank you for sharing!! ❤🩹
What’s SRA ????????
Those poor kids are messed up for life. 😓I’m esp broken for the youngest two. 😓💔 I hope she’s never allowed to be near them ever again.
As for their arrest, I’m shocked to learn that Ruby and Jodi were transported in the same patrol car!! Aren’t suspects always kept separated??
I read somewhere that the police put the suspects together (while being recorded) so they hopefully say something to incriminate themselves. I don't know if this is true, just something I read in the comment section.
Lori Vallow clones that were caught in time. (Respectively) Insane that Ruby could be a model prisoner and get out in as little as four years. You know that’s been her game plan since she changed her tune. (Hopefully the parole board sees through her, but I never count on it.)
They're only concerned about themselves.
More atrocities have been done in the name of “god”.
Most atrocities committed in the 21st century were done by atheist regimes (Pot, Stalin, Hitler, etc.) but yes I agree, many evil people follow demons and use God as justification to commit acts of evil.
In time, everyone will stand in front of GOD ❤ the Judgment 😢😢
@@Fat12219
NO.
WE WON'T.
Your idiotic god doesn't exist.
When we die, it will be lights out.
No lights
No sounds
no taste
no smells
no feelings
no thoughts.
Death is oblivion.
We will return to the dirt we came from...
to the Earth we came from.
There is nothing wrong with that, in fact, it's perfect.
You got one life, why the hell do you need more???
Sure, what ever. That is so 14th century thinking.I will stand in judgement of the EASTER BUNNY.@@Fat12219
you said it, sister!
Is a change of heart sincere? WTF you mean, she abused her children, she went along with it and she deserves to rot in prison.
Oh my gosh. Eve looks so skinny and weak. 😢 no matter if Ruby and Jodie spend their time behind bars, these kids are affected for life. Eve will never be the same as she was, vibrant and full of joy and Russell being just a kid.
I have an idea about how these two should be dealt with. The words wood and chipper come to mind.
I hope they check on the other children in this group. Come on UTAH! The world believes that you condone this behavior. Check on ALL the children in Ruby's group. Please check on the other children 😢
Reading all 60 pages of what hasn’t been blacked out is absolutely heart breaking!
These 2 knew better than to take it to trial because they would’ve been given the max penalty! May they both be blessed in prison with the same kindness they showed these children!
I'm literally sick hearing everything that came out and seeing R
Same! It’s no wonder why they settled quickly, if this would’ve gone to trial, they’d of gotten way worse punishment!
@@emptynesters2520 yeah.
Yeah, the redacted parts were where Ruby wrote about the really bad stuff. The unredacted stuff was horrific as it was.
Where did you read it?
I just can’t. Just too much what these children had to go through.
Crimes against children should get the maximum sentence. The D P. We have to set the bar extremely high when it comes to crimes against children. Those kids will never be right. I suffered as a child and have lived for 50 years like a gun was still at my head. The perp got 6 years.
It’s a witch hunt. Hmmm. Where have we heard that before?🧐
Straight feom the orange guilty one!
This is generation after generation of religious bullcrap. You can tell these kids went through a lot of abuse. They don't even want to speak about what happened to them at first. The little boy said it was personal,😢. When I seen the little girl in the closet, it was so sad. She didn't talk and she didn't move. Like she was trained to do, that is months after months of abuse. They abused her into submission and took everything from her. Hopefully she'll be able to get it back and the mother will never be able to see the kids unless supervision is there.
I wonder how much longer these children could have lived under these circumstances.
Straight to JAIL. PERIOD.
They were nit sentenced to jail.
😂😂😂😂
the wildest part is that these 2 women responsible for the abuse, have a business where they coach parents on how to discipline their children
They should both get the max sentence.
Amazing how she was on the phone to her lawyer before the cops came 🧐
These two criminal women only got 4 years in prison for all their depravity
Four year MINIMUM, up to 30 years each. It’s all up to the parole board now ….
Believe me there will be testimony and all the evidence reviewed at Parole hearing they both will be refused…. They both can manipulate very well but It’s my Prayer they the board see through the the children’s eyes 👀 before the perpetrators when sentencing and reviewing at parole hearings in the future.
She probably started thinking differently, because she finally was separated from jodie so that she could think clearly without all of the conditioning. I belong to a cult when I was growing up I should say my parents did, and it took two years of a special type of therapy to undo all of the crap they put in my head as a young girl
Yep. Don't think people are aware there are rather a lot of religious cults even now. Nor do they realize how difficult it is to escape. So glad you were able to.
One of the first stories in the Book of Mormon taught to the very young primary children is about how the end justifies the means. One of the characters in the story sneaks up on a drunk guy and chops off his head with a sword. He then dresses in the dead man's bloody clothes and takes off with some important genealogical records. The justification is that it is better for one man to die than for an entire nation to dwindle in unbelief. These stories become ingrained in Mormon children's brains, and combined with other bizarre beliefs inculcated into them over many years, could very well be a catalyst for the despicable behavior seen in some of the adult members.
They blame the Devil for their actions and yet these two pushed the ‘devil’ off his throne and sat their backside on it! Because even the ‘devil’ doesn’t mess with children!
First of all Jodi they weren't your children to discipline and secondly starving children and making them work out in the hot Utah Sun barefoot and and disciplining them with hitting them with cacti and making them hug cacti isn't discipline, it's extreme abuse and it's sick. And these aren't the first children that you've done this to, you did this to your niece as well. You are right where you belong.
Those journal entries at the end ... so much more twisted and evil than I even thought . They need to stay in prison .
Thank you for investigating and sharing.
Lori Vallow 2.0 - thank goodness she was prevented from the endgame
Maximum Prison time: with zero possibility of parole: ever.
They had been reported for years by lots of people for abusing these children.