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The actual No 1 is a double annoyance: Resurrecting Torrent Step 1: Get a message informing you that you are about to use a flask to resurrect Torrent (which will lock everything but basic movement until accepted/declined) Step 2: It's defaulted to NO (making you swap to the D-Pad, so not even able to move anymore, to change it to YES)
I'm convinced this dialog option is a developer troll. There's NO situation in which Torrent has died that there's time to go through confirmation dialogs, especially for a resource that's just going to regenerate when you die. Like, yeah, that dragon just mashed Torrent into a fine paste, did a ton of damage to me and is preparing to cover the entire area with fire , but let's carefully consider whether I can afford to use one of my remaining flasks on the only thing that can get me to safety.
@@v_1d10_t You mean a downside like spending on of your own flasks? And you do understand that Torrent can be one shoted by several attacks, making torrent heals irrelevant in that scenario? I use an Xbox controller and no, just because I can tilt the stick while using the d pad, doesn't equate to deliberate moving. If you wanna find excuses, go for it but that doesn't change the fact how some controlls are badly optimised. All they had to do was default it to yes
@@v_1d10_t That's what you are doing, I refuted both your claims as nonsensical and irrelevant. And instead of giving me a counter argument, you accuse me of what you are doing... You complain about my statement and how dare I to not agree with you. You have the chance to proof me wrong, do it. If torrent is killed by a one shot you are thrown off it, are vulnerable and in order to resummon it, have to spend one of your flasks to resurrect it. So you are stunned for a few seconds and use two flasks to heal yourself and resurrect torrent... what more punishment do you need? How is the structure of the message justifiable and an enhancement of the gaming experience? Go ahead, it's your moment to show me how my assessment is wrong and you are right and that you are not just making excuses to avoid criticism towards a game you seemingly don't wanna see criticized .
I actually really like the chest teleports. You never know where you're going to end up and a lot of them show off really cool areas I need to go in the future which acts as a nice incentive to keep going and exploring.
My first experience with the game: I immediately turned around after getting into Limgrave at base level which was 9. Immediately stumbled on that treasure chest and ended up in that cave. I fought my way out but was still in the middle of Caelid, and I don’t think I had any sites of grace open in Limgrave. So I had to traverse Caelid at level 9 with NO map or knowledge of the game and had the worst time of it. But it made me stronger as a player and gave me this EPIC tier story to tell about it.
It wasn't the first thing that happened to me but basically this. That chest is in such a dickish spot. But I was extra dumb about it. I didn't get caught by the trap first time around. I figured they were like the traps in DS2 where you trigger the trap, roll away, and then collect the goodie inside. Well, I opened it, dodged the trap, and then returned to the chest expecting a reward. The chest was closed again. Odd... but the trap was disarmed so it should be safe to open agai- Poof! off to Caelid
I had my wife play who has never played any souls games and she kept getting mad cuz she thought all the messages on the ground were from the devs so she just kept jumping off cliffs and everything. It was actually pretty funny watching it and not helping her
I'm new to this franchise. I've never played a game that does so much to piss you off and make you accept you aren't built for this and wasted 60 bucks. AND I LOVE IT. Such a unique experience.
@JK I don't find this game as challenging so much as time consuming. Once you get a feel for the game and the build you're playing it's actually quite easy. First souls game too
Fun fact, and yes, I know this is months later: You do NOT have to complete Stormveil Castle to beat the game. You can completely skip Margit and Godrick by finding a secret path around the castle and into the next region.
There is not much bosses with combination of such aggresive attack pattern and small arena, so I would say its perfectly okay to skip Stormveil Castle and come back later. For me personally was much easier to beat Renala and make my way to Altus plateau than beating Margit.
I watched my buddy fight Margit. And Margit really likes to hold his attacks and wait till you panic dodge your all your stamina away. Margit walked towards my buddy with his arm up in the air charging an attack. So naturally as anyone would, my buddy panic dodged all his stamina away. And the mad-lad Margit is, decided not to even attack my buddy lol. He just put his arm down and jumped backwards. I swear sometimes the bosses know when you're not ready to actually fight them and they toy with you
Ikr the AI in this game is insane it really feels like you’re fighting a living breathing enemy not just an npc it feels like there’s someone with a controller on the other side, the sad thing is margits easy compared to what’s to come lol
the AI is smart and learns you i was kiting tree sentinel around a pole and easily diispatching him before he caught on to my rotation an i had to switch it
I feel like Margit is the game's way of telling you "There's a crap load of stuff you can do before this boss. Do some of it, then come back with decent equipment and stats". I had the Bloodhound's Fang +2 by the time I fought him, and he went down fairly easily.
For me it was the tree sentinnel, you knoe what I did? I fought him for 5 hours till i got him then I started exploring, I knrw what I had to do but it was all too overwhelming lol
As a newbie I feel bosses that attack consecutively are still something I can't figure out, it seems they give no opening for attack and I have a fast dual curved swords. I beat Margit purely on more levels and potions, plus the quickstep which is was a godsend. But, on my own I still kinda randomed half of it on the second phase and got hit a lot. Similar patterns still baffle me, can't seem to figure out this thing.
@@FrozenAXL that's something that is hard to explain, just know that your dodgerolls are i frame, you phase trough attacks you roll out of teh way, so basically if its abig attack you will be able to heal or attack 2 to 3 times, and if you have a quick weapon then ususaly between each attack you can put a strike or two. also you endurance matters, even if you attack always have enough stam to roll out
I'm glad they have the whole "If you die before you pick up your runes, you lose them forever" thing because it makes you play a certain way and gives you actual consequence
It's hard to play a game & feel genuine fear as an adult. This gameplay mechanic instills fear, & like you said, consequences. It's close to real life that way, I love it too
Who the horseman guy with the giant shield. I beat him at lvl20. You can bypass him beat the 2 boses in the caves the cat statue at that half lion guy. They are doable at low lvls then the horseman guy will be beatable. The key is when he does an attack that drains all your stamina he gives you enough time to regenerate your stamina. Also don't fight him with your horse
@@dulzkyriveratovitch256 the horseman is annoyign but can be beat.....wait until players run into the actual strong ones that can use magic attacks and melee lol xD
I actually *LOVED* the chest teleport. At first, I was wandering around aimlessly and couldn’t find any real action. Then BOOM! I’m in the Selia crystal tunnel. When I finally escape, “Holy fuck, why is the sky red!?!?” I could’ve fast traveled back to limgrave after getting to the grace, but I didn’t know I could, since I had just started playing. I didn’t even have my horse yet! 😆 I then went up the hill to find a bunch of horrific big headed dogs and crows. I died against them the first time, so I had to sneak past them the second time to get my runes back. I felt like I was trying to escape Hell, and it was fucking amazing!
I literally did the exact same thing, thought it would be good to get some levels before I fought the tree sentinel, went into a cave then boom I was with some shrimp looking dudes. Died probably 50 times before I realized I could fast travel back lmao
Dude we played the same game. I IMMEDIATELY turned right coming out of the starting area and got teleported and didn't know I could teleport back yet, didn't have anything but starting gear. Geez it was rough.
One mechanic with the poison swamps that I'm pretty certain is new and was not present in previous games is that if you roll in them, they will stick to your character's upper body and continue to build up the poison meter even after you reach a safe spot.
I'd like to see is a journal that lists all of the NPCs you've met as well as all of the lines of dialogue that you've unlocked with that NPC thus far. The journal could be broken down into sections which could include NPC dialogue, texts from sword fields, the cryptic dialogue with the various ghosts you encounter, all of your recipes learned (maybe turn the cookbooks into a usable item that adds the entries into the crafting section of the journal), and also move the notes and tutorial info out of the inventory and into their own section of the journal. Something like that would be useful but would still require the player to think about the things they are reading rather than have a full-on quest journal or markers.
I actually liked not seeing quest markers but what would have been at least a decent idea would have been a journal in the menu to at least keep track of the dialogs you experience over time with the npc's. Still not necessarily telling you where to go but it wouldn't force you to try and remember every piece of each individual quest, separately. Especially if you're running multiple quest lines
Going back to do side quests once you've already progressed a fair bit into the story is all the more frustrating because NPCs move around and they're not where you expect them to be or you've forgotten someone's name and now you're trying to figure out who it was and what they wanted you to do. Don't need someone to hold my hand but it does often feel like stumbling in the dark.
My biggest problem with this game is that you're tied to Google if you want to actually complete many quests. It's just impossible to know what utterly convoluted steps you have to take unless you google it. Especially when you can out-time quests and not meet requirements. Even with a step by step google guide it can be difficult
This is my problem as well. I have no problem needing to find locations of NPCs, but it’s ridiculous that I don’t even get a quest or conversation log of some kind to track what I can even do next. If I don’t immediately drop what I’m doing to do the next step in the quest, I am likely to forget with no real way of being able to discover the last dialogue I was give.
@@THELEGEND-wc2xr veteran souls player here and just like with the other souls game yes it’s a problem. If I have to buy a notepad and some pens and keep them handy (the souls way) yes it’s a problem. I’m trying to slap people around with a big slab of metal not study for a test. They aren’t asking for quests in your face but what they are asking for is a nudge. Breath of the wild did it and no one complained and what is elden ring but breath of the wild on fuck you difficulty. All they are asking for a nudge so calm down.
Yeah I made sure to almost entirely do all of the limgrave and weeping area stuff before even heading to him as my first attempt was way too early! Haha
Yup. This whole game is like that. I'm probably like more than 50% through and I have yet to find a boss that gives me more trouble than a couple of tries bc I do all the side content before the critical path
One I haven’t seen, not being able to check the map when enemies are aggro in the open world. It should take away fast travel and make it attackable as a trade-off like the inventory. Maybe I’m nitpicking but it impacts exploration when you’re forced off the path into Bumfuck, Egypt
Margit taught me how good I've gotten at learning the systems of the game. Lost a lot at level 25 on my first playthrough. Started a new playthrough after beating it the first time and beat Margit fairly quickly without leveling up once.
I feel like Margit is a big example of how heaps of NPCs combat seems heavily inspired by Dancer from DS3; that being like a slightly longer animation where you anticipate getting hit earlier and then get bonked after your i-frames. It's like you need to roll a second later than you think you do
They took all the feedback of people loving Dancer and made Sekiro, and people LOVED that too, and so they're encorporating different timings into attacks from then on. Not just faster or slower specific attacks, but also actively held timings, so they could mix things up with the exact same move.
@@KainYusanagi Thats a far better way of articulating it! Actively held timings is exactly what I was thinking about haha. Sekiro is the one I haven't played so I was naive to that progression there
This is my struggle right now, I roll too early. The Dancer is easy for me now because I have her timing down to a T, but even so, it’s much quicker in terms of he attacks so it’s more pinball reaction based as opposed to waiting for the right moment
My favorite note so far: “if only I had a hole, time for seed!” Also I like that there’s no quest markers. I feel like it encourages you to explore which leads to finding cool stuff.
You don't need quest markers. You can place different markers, and you can't really forget the NPC locations. The world doesn't have lots of filler NPCs like other open worlds. So, it's pretty easy to remember the few you meet. Even in RDR2, i always used quest markers, although It was optional. But here, I don't need them. It feels great to stumble upon a lot of random quests
Do wish we could access dialogue if we missed it don't have much interest running around blindly as fun as exploration is many of the quests and items in the game can be missed simply by killing a boss before you talked to an npc.
I'll admit that fighting Margit was a pain in the ass but then I realized that because of his constant aggression it actually helped me learn to wait to dodge instead of panic dodging like I was doing before. I think I fought him like 10 times minimum and most of those deaths were because I got either overly aggressive or didn't time a dodge just right. More of a learning experience than anything
About the npc's not being marked, it's both us and no. Those who stay in a specific location for a period of time will be marked, once you find and interact with them. But in unfortunately for those who's quest lines your trying to complete, one you trigger an event that causes then to move to their next location, then it becomes difficult to remember where your supposed to go, and what your supposed to do. Specially if and when you get side tracked.
Not that this disqualifies the annoyance, but for those getting caught in transporter traps, you CAN avoid them. Just mash the dodge button when opening any chest and your character will backstep out of the smoke before it catches you. EDIT: You can also traverse swamps that usually force you to walk by backstepping, which is significantly faster. There are even Weapon Arts that give you exceptional swamp mobility!
I've never been caught in any of the treasure chest traps for this very reason: you can dodge, and many times people leave messages that warn you about it. I kind of feel like I missed out not understanding this "universal" experience of being teleported to that nightmare cave haha
8:30 Yes a notepad is helpful, however, the map gives you different marker icons in which you can mark npcs, boss locations, unexplored areas etc. NPCs are marked on the map after speaking to them. It has a great marker system that is constantly overlooked.
As a first timer from soft player, I killed margit in 4 attempts. I dont know if this helps people much but i used the wolf summons from ranni at the curch of elleh, the 2 plus 2 uchigatanas. I also summoned sorcerer rogier
Same for me, only thing I did different I was weilding Katana and Shield because I didn't think of dual weilding^^ And with Rogier and the Doggos it was do-able, even though it took a few tries to figure out at least some of his movements
You can also just not interact with it, once you’ve opened the chest it’s a whole second prompt to interact with the smoke and get warped away. You can just stand still and eventually the chest will close back up.
I have such a love-hate relationship with the message system, too. The constant “but hole” “secret path ahead” messages are a staple of the games and it wouldn’t be the same without them, but if I see one more “try two-handing” by those two armors at the Round Table I’ll lose it.
I think the face thing is spot on, it could easily be fixed with an option to turn off your helmet showing that way you can still have the stats of the armor but also be able to show off your customization
I spent an hour creating a gorgeous femme fatale and burst out laughing when I started the game as a samurai 🤣 I immediately took the helmet off! Souls fashion is all, Cleanrot Knight or Crucible Knight Siluria armour sets my favourites, I come from the area in Wales where the ancient Celtic Silures tribe lived too so feel a kind of kinship with the Crucible set, there’s lots of Welsh accents & references in the Lands Between so I feel right at home 🙂
As much as being transported to the Sellia cave was irritating at first, that experience once I got out and started looking around brought me back to my youth when I first played Morrowind and I would stumble on some amazing thing, I wouldn't give that experience up for anything! and honestly it's not even that big of a deal because the moment you get out of the cave you can just fast travel back to where you were, it'd be a different story if you had to ride back!
@@ginomccoy3047 I haven't seen anyone else compare it to Morrowind yet but I am glad to hear I am not the only one! I agree, amazing game, I can't even tell you how many times I restarted that game...
@@Chonus I wish! Oddly enough I feel like Morrowind struck a great balance between not treating the player like they were stupid and giving them to tools (like you said) that you would just wind up having to have irl instead, like the notebook setting beside my Xbox for Elden Ring...lol
I loved all the things in this video. Poison swamps in particular are great imo since they can drastically alter how you progress and fight in an area.
As someone that has played all of the Souls games, the one thing that I always hated were enemies with great bows because, more often than not, they knock you down if they hit you. The most annoying ones are definitely the ones that shoot you when you are trying to platform. The ones in Anor Londo especially come to mind.
If you fully explore limgrave and the weeping peninsula, Margit is pretty damn easy. Also, pick up Margit's shackle from Patches for an added helpful mechanic.
True, but I totally f***ed up by killing Patches, and losing the questline. You cannot unfortunately atone at the Church of Vows. There is option 2 for the shackle however, thanks to the ring.
@@MH-ut1rc Debatable. I've yet to have any complaints about the map functionality 150 hours in. It does exactly what it needs to. Nothing more and nothing less.
About point 5. I like it that there are no markers to point you exactly where to go. Makes you have to think a bit. But I would like to see which quests I started. and maybe see the last thing a character said. Because I am new to this game and franchise and was so busy learning the game, I did not realise there were side quests (which I already started) until like 1/4 into the game. And something else that I sort of hate of the quests is that some quests influence the game and other quests, hich I also did not realise.
>People hate how there are no quest markers Honestly... The lack of quest markers made the game so much better. I was excited to explore and find things.
I like how there aren't any quest markers. I'm enjoying studying the map and exploring on my own. Most games I get sick of looking at the map and all the markers, so its a nice change for me.
So my issues isn't a lack of markers, but a lack of a log. There is too much to remember, and no way to log what you have and haven't done in a quest line short of keeping a notepad handy for all the conversations you have. It just makes side quests so easy to forget about or miss. It has caused me to spend half my time Googling why the quest I'm working on isn't letting me progress because I missed something
@@mavvynne444 you want to not remember stuff? To each their own, but I want a list of side quests to at least know if I've locked myself out of it or if I missed something before I progress
@@DarkSalvation22 I don't find it a problem personally. I've always kept a notebook for videogames besides me since Ocarina of time, but definitely do understand it's a problem for some players. A game cannot expect you to hold a notebook besides you at all time, however the quests in Souls are structured in such a way that you are going to be guaranteed to fail some and requires multiple playthroughs.
@@FromsoftgoatKaj That's why souls games have thier own genre, they will never be different, if people can't accept that then they should stop playing. I do take in the problems that people are complaining about, but it doesn't matter, the game is made, the game is out and it will never change - the only solutions are - acceptance or stop playing. Sorry if I'm being rude but it is what it is🤐
I love the minimal hand holding however, i wouldn't have minded some sort of journal where some crucial dialogues from quest NPCS get saved. Its sometimes hard to remmeber what wich quest NPC wanted what from you after 20hours of play and the step required for a specific quest just got available.
Especially when you only play a few hours a week. You forget what it is you needed to do. I end up writing quest stuff on my notepad so I know what I need to look out for the next time I play. I never did this for other souls games since they are pretty linear. You just have to explore every single level once and that's it. But with how open Elden Ring's world is, I worry I'll miss too many sidequests. I've played almost 20 hours and am still searching for the tomboy lady a guy in the Roundtable asked me to look for.
Ye a log for dialogue would be nice. Sometimes NPCs will tell you directions and u just have to remember they are. Sometimes they'll disappear so u have to remember the first time they tell you something like when ur trying to find the other half of the dectus medallion. And sometimes they straight up won't tell you where their quest will be like Blaid the wolf guy who tells you to find Dariwill. I like how there's minimal quest markers so u have to find things urself but would it hurt to have some actual directions? Its a big open world Blaid how tf am gonna find a 1 guy if ubdont tell me where he is.
Basilisks, beast torch is effective. Some are still scripted to attack when you move to a certain location, but it's usually a "player stepped here so i use this attack" and not an actual aggro. Usually, you can just ignore them though. My first time seeing them, underground in a dark area. Had the beast torch, so actually didn't know how dangerous they were, found out they died to melee easily enough, especially cuz they weren't aggroing.
Margit was legit my realization that this game was no joke hard. I love it and hated it. I must've faught him at least 30 times and when i beat him I had the mental rush to explore the castle and find the next boss
I've played through dark souls 1-3 and this Margit is my second favorite first boss is Gundyr from dark souls 3 took me 3 hours to beat him with the thief starting class and I've been hooked since. Margit was much easier for me but guess that's just since I've learned how to play this style of games.
Tip, in the “group” password settings, make one of the groups “Seekers”, it’s a community of serious secret finders, that help you throughout the game fighting bosses and finding secrets with messages. Boss is weak against fire “Try fire” Secret out of the way to find? They’ll hint “This way, behold, secret!” They’ve helped me a lot. Edit: You can also dodge from chests to escape the gas trap, fun and helpful fact!
Tips before bosses are a grace maaan!! There was one boss weak to blood loss and there was a note. I swapped to my flail and bled that fire dog animal thing!!
But if you dodge, you will never know where it would have teleported you. This question would bug me way more than just losing a few souls * ehem* runes.
I know this video is made 8 months ago but I want to comment about some changes. 1. NPC locations are marked on the map along with site of grace or individually except NPCs on the roundtable hold. (I am still very early into the game so I m unaware of any changes in the late game) 2. On getting trapped in entrapping snare, If we find and rest at site of grace then you can fast travel to safe location except in the Dungeons ( I didn't get to the particular trap shown in the video )
A few of these are resolved, like NPCs are marked on the map after discovery, and actions are always the first selected option, above messages and such, so even if a message is at the bottom of a ladder, go to the ladder and press triangle or whatever, and you'll start instantly climbing the ladder. You have to cycle through the lesser options to read a message. Same with levers, doors, items, etc. The important action is the first option.
The messages at the bottom of ladders is still a problem. Somebody put two messages on top of each other at the bottom of one ladder and it took quite a while to the the climb option to appear.
First Souls game for me (I intend on playing all of them now) and I gotta say, I caught on to the dying frequently thing pretty quick. Mostly from my time with a full loot pvp game I used to play. I lost a large load of runes the other day due to a cliff and laughed for a few minutes. I'm really digging this game. I love stumbling across stuff. It's such a relief from the constant quest logs and markers in other games and reminds me of the early days in WoW when I'd be excited to see a chest near a bunch of mobs. I really feel immersed in the world and that's something I haven't felt for years.
Same bro. Look at my profile pic, I literally grew up playing only cod😅 I’m so glad I gave this game a shot. I’m addicted. I’m definitely checking out dark souls at some point.
Regarding Margit, in Dark Souls 1 the starting areq diverged into 2 paths, one of which had some very tough enemies. This is how the devs told the players that unless you want a tough challenge you're better off going the other way and come back when you reach a higher level. The same logic applies to Margit: the devs want you to spend some time levelling up in the world before facing him
This is why DS2 ironically had one of my favorite starts in the series. Every choice was valid, but if you ran into something that stumped you you could just go a different way.
Only thing I want is some sort of tracker for quests/dialogues. Specially so that it's open-world so people are bound to get distracted a lot, which is not much of a problem with past games since they're pretty linear. The amount of times I had to look up the Wiki just to remind myself gets frustrating. Also, adding a "Hide helmet" feature like in Monster Hunter would be really nice.
I love everything about the notes. It almost makes me feel like I'm with a giant group of friends and we're all playing togother at the same time. Wich in a way, is exactly what it is. And all the lighthearted joking notes lightens the mood when I feel like rage quitting.
People complaining about the lack of quest log: the map allows you to place markers with different icons which is surprisingly useful to remember different locations and what’s there. As limited as it is it’s still a pretty useful feature which I recommend using if you’re overwhelmed
Yea, but people are not used to think for themselves in games. I personally don't like when games tell me exactly where to go. It removes the sense of adventure and From made their world a real joy to explore. I remember playing old Gothic games and legit writing stuff down as a kid. But majority of people playing Elden Ring just follow the golden arrow and then complain about Margit being difficult.
@@_Just_John xD Margit is not even hard which is the sad thing. his moveset is just a little cringe, the game doesnt give you enough defensive resources to actually flow in combat with him so it is literally wait 2 secs longer than usual to dodge his big hits and then everythign else just dodge backwards.
@@kregman6928 Yea, those delayed hits always throw me off at the beginning, but you just have to adjust... So of course Margit is not hard. It's the first boss most people encounter. And ER has a ton of crutches like stat enhancing consumables, summoning ashes, NPCs, other people... Patches even sells an item, which "grounds" Margit for a few seconds. In Elden Ring you can easily control the game's difficulty if you are not lazy to explore. Which is a great game design imo.
8:30 I mean before they patched that feature in, I would just mark NPC locations on my map where I found them and would then just try to keep an eye out for them whenever I went somewhere new. Because the fact that Elden Ring has a really detailed map is actually something of a game changer for souls-like games. Granted I only ever got lost once or twice in Bloodborne, but the map has the functionality to help you keep track of NPC's.
I loved the Margit Boss fight. Once I became patient enough not to to dodge too quickly when he would do certain attacks, it was a pretty fair and fun fight. That being said, I also made sure not to go into it until level 30, so I was a little bit more prepared in terms of endurance to be able to dodge and attack effectively.
It was easier to love because the site of grace is literally right outside the boss arena. So I always felt motivated to jump back in and try again. What sucks is when the walk back is long.
I suspect that Margit is only hard if you go STRAIGHT to him. I explored until I was slightly above Lvl 30 and then went to him. He's pretty easy at that point.
I just beat him today, first try, surprisingly started as a wretch, decided to go try my luck at level 25 He's very agressive, true, but I don't think he's that hard idk never finished any other souls game before btw
@@blackfacegaming191 fr. I beat him at like 18 or 19 and it felt pretty fair. I did good enough damage but still got destroyed if I fucked up which happened frequently lol
13:27 it’s even worse when there is an item drop from enemies and bloodstains at the base of the latter along with the messages I’ve had it happen and I haven’t gone to that cave since then
The Issue that many players face with Margit is they assume this is the next progression step while under levelled and geared then give up shortly after but Elden Ring is an open world, it wants you to explore the rest of Limgrave then Weeping Peninsula as these areas provide the upgrades and gear that will allow you to progress pass Margit, Godrick then to other areas.
None of this irritates me all that much... except for the last one. I will tolerate seeing 100 "Try finger, but hole" messages just to see the one that points me in the direction of a critical, largely optional treasure (weapon, incantation, talisman, etc) I would've missed otherwise. But players putting messages in locations that get in the way of playing the game itself is the most irritating part to me. They put them under ladders, right at the very top of them, right next to levers, i've opened a few treasure chests and is met with a message in my face! In most cases the interactive object takes priority over reading the message but every once in a while trying to jump on a ladder before getting sliced in the back feels like a juggling act. Flipping through the option of reading the message to climbing the ladder or running up to a lever and reading the message instead of pulling it while the wave of enemies I ran past start to catch up. Now i'm just going full blown Karen and down voting messages like that based on location instead of just what they are saying lol
I forget what dungeon it was (somewhere between late-Lurnia and Altus/Gelmir) and I ended up losing 150K since I was lower level and my runes got stuck in a dungeon... The only exit from the area being the boss fight and A LADDER guarded by A VIRGIN MAIDEN! there was a message right in front of the ladder
I downvote those troll messages too because they’re more than annoying and i wish those troll players would get banned for life for putting messages on ladders and levers
Max range for spells is really annoying sometimes, especially when mobs can hit you and your spells vanish just before hitting them. Also, dogs. Worst enemies in the game.
About number 2, especially when you encounter swamps you cannot run or lava, put 'quick step' ash of war (or bloodhound steps) to a dagger and press the special attack button (ctrl in PC). You'll be able to move fast as long as you have FP. Flame, cleanse me incantation would be useful in removing scarlet rot/ poison build up.
I, too, quickly learned in Elden Ring: to make the fight against Margit easier, faster and more efficient you shouldn't fight him too early, but have leveled up the character and its main weapon a bit and gained experience with the combat system, but that goes quite quickly ... then you should go ahead at the beginning of the fight at the portal and summon the NPC Sorcerer Rogier to help, also a robust spirit ashes, if possible with several spirits, and you should definitely have purchased "Margit's Shackle" from the NPC Patches beforehand (see WIKI) and use it next to Margit in the fight three times before Margit gets his glowing hammer ... and then this fight isn't as bad as it's always portrayed ... Godrick as the final boss in this castle isn't as violent as feared either, you can summon the NPC Nepheli Loux, Warrior and spirit ashes for help as well (see WIKI) ... and if you act agile and smart, you may prefer to use a fast weapon without long animations, stay close to the boss if possible and don't just run away most of the time, then these fights are over relatively quickly ... doing all this I killed them both in my first try with my different characters ... only imo all the other tricks and tips confuse more than they help ... Elden Ring offers all these possibilities, the developers didn't do it for nothing, so you can and should use all of them as a player, it can be that simple to No. 5: it wouldn't have hurt if the developers had at least integrated a diary so that it's easier to remember what you've already done or which quest lines you've triggered, instead I now have a lot of handwritten notes so I don't lose track, for me this is my biggest problem in Elden Ring ... but on the other hand, I don't have any problems with occasionally providing information in the WIKI or here on CZcams when, despite all my efforts, I really don't know what to do and that doesn't reduce my enjoyment of the game, on the contrary it protects me from too much frustration and guesswork ... but that's nothing why I have to "hate" the game because it's entirely up to me how I deal with it yes, those annoying portal traps, but it's very simple, either you instantly roll back a long way when such fog traps appear, or in the new area - and otherwise - you just run away or out as quickly as possible instead of always fighting everything that comes your way and what you don't know yet
Astounding to me that anyone entrenched in video games cannot see that Margit is an intentional developer decision. He is supposed to be extremely hard for when you are first likely to find him so that you turn around and explore more of Limgrave and get stronger. If he was steamrollable like Taurus Demon, then there are so many nooks and crannies players would not have discovered.
Yea. But people expect the game to tell them everything. "Area ahead requires level 15." was a joke in "What If Dark Souls Had An Easy Mode?" video by Indeimaus made 6 years ago.
2:09 When he talked about getting another message about a hidden wall is annoying I laughed because the wall he was standing in front of was actually a hidden wall lol
Yeah, not even that, at 1:38 hes showing examples of troll messages like the one you commented on and the one hes showing isnt a troll either, i jumped on that rope thing there and then again across to the other side, so bad example for trolling there as well lol
For number 5, at least in ER you got actual map and you can place all kinds of markers, which is something you don't find in from soft earlier games. So, that part it's not actually bad as in dark souls etc.
I’m more annoyed about how many dishonest “hidden path ahead” notes there are. A few neckbeards are soiling their socks with glee in how funny they think they are.
@@WimpieInator There are but not that many. I found a catacomb with some and i've seen them in a couple of other spots. They're pretty rare though I think.
As a Souls veteran, I WOULD very much appreciate a quest log. It’s great that they did add NPC locations to the map now, but it would be a good convenience, even if it just keeps track of dialog.
I think this would be a bad idea, if you struggle to follow the questline just look it up on the internet or just dont do the quest if you dont know how
I actually didn't know about Margot's shackle until I had already beaten him...and he wasn't any more difficult for me than and of the other bosses. The only boss I'd say I really struggled to beat was Malena. I had to actually use online matachmaking for that one. The rest I soloed offline. I'm currently at the end of NG+2. One I find a way to beat the Elden beast, I'll be on NG+3. And the only boss I didn't solo would be Malena. I even tried helping others beat Godrick in THEIR worlds.
Equip a dagger or anything with the "Quickstep" art on a spare slot when negotiating poison, Quickstep basically allows you to Sonic the Hedgehog through the poison and reduces build up.
first time I play a souls game as a mage, feels like a breeze, not easy mode tho, but definitely better outcomes in boss battles than melee in my experience
Tip for people who can’t get past Margit: Use the Rotten Stray summon and Rogier. The stray will inflict scarlet rot and all you have to do after is just dodge until he’s dead. Works on most early game bosses.
I felt Number 8 so hard. I'm currently wearing The Bandit Mask to kind of mitigate it. It'd be nice to have a "hide helmet" toggle in the settings. Number 5 makes me wish they had a journal. Just so I'd have some idea of where to go to continue the story. At this point, I'm just going to keep leveling up until I can maybe slaughter everything and guidance won't be necessary. I'll just stumble into everything and be too strong for the required level to matter. I'll get to like boss design on NG+3 or something.
For number 8 a simple solution would be a hide helmet option In the settings so you still gain the stats from it but it shows your characters head instead
Actually Nioh games have that option. I have always wondered why From Software haven't thought about it. I will still play without the helmet though, cause I ain't accurately creating a character to hide it under a mask afterwards :D
Yeah but isn't dark souls character creator the first back stab challenge the game throws at you? Where you work hard to make your character fit your immersion and then cover the face with a helmet.
…You can also take off the helmet??? Like am I the only one doing that? Full armor, no helmet or hood. That point really blew my mind how nit picky people can be. Also, what’s the point of a helmet that doesn’t cover your face?
Why some of the helmets are actually badass looking and let's be real dark souls has never had a good character creator and it's not like there is dialog cutscenes like in Witcher 3 or dragon age where it would look stupid to be wear a helmet inside a safe zone while talking to people. That option seems pointless in this game.
? It does mark the NPC’s though, you can see em at sites of grace or the little boxes, plus you can mark locations as well also tip for the haligtree scarlet rot swamp, use quickstep to get through it
The thing I hate the most is when input doesn't work. I press the button and HEAR the in-game noise as it's recognized but the action doesn't happen till I press again. Drives me absolutely mad
Missed my number one annoyance, not updating their junky co-op for something a bit more appropriate for such an open world. "Hey cool, my buddy and I found a dungeon, ok, let me leave, ride my horse over, then take two steps past the fog wall for a re-summon." I swear I've spent as much time leaving and joining friends as I have playing the game with them lmao
It would be cool to be able to port the party to certain graces in dungeons as long as a boss hasn't been slain. Like you can't go to any open world grace or the roundtable hold, but a catacombs, or cave, or another location that you can summon for a mini-boss. And as long as the host has the grace, then the whole party can port to it.
I wonder how the lock on mechanic didn't make it on this list. It's so annoying when you look straight up to an enemy but it won't let you lock on to him. Or when the enemy is behind you and when try to lock on, you look in the opposite direction exposing your back to the enemy. Can't say how many deaths this caused for me.
100% agree! Doesn’t help if the camera can’t find anything to lock on it’ll swing to where you’re facing which usually is the opposite direction I want when I’m running away from a boss xD!
Just picked up the game, just hit level 24, I have to say this odds such a wonderful game!!! It checks the boxes of action, adventure, great combat, boss battles, exploration, open-world VS. Empty-world, it’s fantastic and I was surprised with the realistic stealth mechanic. Favorite of the series so far! Thank you for your video 👊
8:15 The only real hints about where to go is the golden streams shooting through the air to graces you’re close to, but that’s kind of the whole open world exploration theme of the game.
One thing that drives me nuts in this game, is, when you're knocked prone by a boss, it takes way too much time for you to stand back up, during which time you have no chance because the boss continues to pulverize you. So flippin' annoying. UPDATED: Thanks for all the helpful replies, I am a Soulsbourne noob, heheh, so I didn't realize I could simply roll and get back up quickly. Thanks guys!
Or when they “strategically” hide enemies behind every wall in every cave so you will more than likely get hit for a big chunk of your health. That’s also extremely annoying. The devs are super petty
Especially knowing that in sekiro, you dont stand until you roll away, but here you dont have control over it. So its definately something they could have added 🤔
They're trolling Skyrim because they knew everybody would say "Open World? Dragons? Skyrim!" Kudos to From! You got a Skyrim HOSS that climbs mountains! Character menu that lets you make your Hawt Character then armour so you never see them! All they missed is Nazeem.
Fun fact: If you fear you're gonna die on your way to recollect your lost runes you can equip a sacrificial twig in your talisman slot, that way when you die without recollecting them you get another shot at getting them back.
Twiggy Cracked Tear for the Wondrous Physick does the same thing lasts a while 3 minutes too, or quit out of the game if you think you’re about to die 👍🏼
The answer to what exactly the pots are, they collect the corpses of dead heroes until they get big enough and die at an erdtree which the erdtree requires said heroes as fertilizer to grow. So inside every pot is full of dead people, the one at the arena in Caelid is a horrific thought
Pretty sure I saw a "Display Helmet" toggle in a menu somewhere... Also, you can avoid the teleportation traps by backing away from the chest after you open it. Just avoid the cloud.
@@BarcelonaRussia man i see ur trolling and replying to these comments and i think that instead of wasting ur time here for a pointless joke go play ur favorite game
There is an option to remove the helmet in the status menu.... however, it ONLY removes it in the actual status menu. It unfortunately doesn't remove it in game.
@@BarcelonaRussia fifa is over complicated pong. There's nothing wrong with liking that, but there's nothing revolutionary or immersive to sports games in general.
*Margit isn't even that difficult if you take the time to explore the southern part of the map* It's arguably one of the easiest areas, and one of the most rewarding. Especially for the early game
TRUE, you can get the fucking moonviel in caelid for gods sake, one of the best weapons in the game. Not to mention summons, the free 30 ish levels at the start of the game from big dragon in caelid, the fact you can +9 unique weapons before margit, the fact you can simply walk past him and godrick and go straight into the liruinia, atlas plateu, etc.
Spell range is number one. Don't allow targeting if you can't reach them. Also, some AOE spells mysteriously miss baddies that are clearly in the area but might be slightly off up/down, like on a ramp or in a little divet
Your first point isn't really reasonable. Different spells have different range. You want them to make the lock on switch ranges when you switch spells? Just remember the range of your spells. It's not that bad
I got teleported literally within my first hour...it was not fun...but I did end up leveling up 20 some levels, and was able to beat Margit in 3 tries because of all the training I got in, so there was that lol
I love the no quest marker but I do wish there was a quest journal. I mean this is easily remedied with a pen and paper but still. Sometimes I don't even know if I'm starting a quest.
I tend to explore al lthe time instead of doing "the main quest" so when I first fought Margit the Fell I didnt even find him that difficult(just intimidating from what Ive heard). At that point I had good weapons, incantation and upgraded summons so destroyed in under two minutes XD
A couple bosses punish my greatsword build, but I love the freedom to just move on and come back to it since there is no real limit to exploration. Pushing through difficult lands low level is satisfying.
The only thing I hate about elden ring are the multi bosses, they will make two bosses that work and are fun to fight, then put them together when they were definitely not meant to be fought together
The thing with Margit is that the game literally spends an age showing you a myriad of new things. You're meant to take ALL of the new things and blend them together. There's a NPC summon right outside the door (first one you see of its kind), there's a "summon stuff" shrine next to THAT, consumables to throw at him, etc. While yes, you have to do SOME exploring, I've not needed to "grind to level 93" or whatever before attempting him. He's cake at this point. ...but early on, that "oh shit!" moment of first seeing him comes with a wave of panic, and you'd better have learned those lessons well that the game has been showing you.
My first two attempts at Margit were basically a recalibration of my Souls expectations. I missed the summons, rolled at all the wrong times and got punished for trying to tank with a level 11 Vagabond. After those two attempts I roamed the map picked up some knowledge, weapons and levels before taking him out with only minor difficulty.
Dark souls vet here so right of the rip I hooked a left an b lined in right to the chest that toile me to Selina cave then spent the next 80 hours wandering around the lands between murdering every boss I could find never getting any achievements wonder where all the lords are hiding and at this point I was a pretty high level and got to a gate that said I needed to defeat two shard bearers to proceed so i quick went to the round table hold to gather all the information I could then back to the first step and the white mask told me where to go, then I realized I had passed two lords already don’t know what possessed me to go around them but I was way to over leveled and completely smashed Stormvile castle with the exception of the crucible knight. But to make a long story short this is dark souls with an open world and I love it. My only wish is that there where more areas like stormvile where you get one bonfire and have to discover multiple shortcuts to your way back I currently have 150 hours in the game and am maybe 75% done minus all the quests I messed up or missed. And I will get every ending, piece of equipment, spells and all quests with one character!!!
First time I beat Margit I died a thousand times, second time I beat Margit, I don’t die at all. His attacks do not have a lot of patterns, and it gets confusing when he switches the attacks from his front to his back. He can be beaten once you learn his strat but even then it’s hard for new players to get a hang of fighting him. Though he was less of a disappointment than Godrick, which I only died like 4-5 times from, and he’s meant to be tougher than Margit using his dragon head. But btw trust me that when he grabs that dragon head, his dragon flamethrower attack makes him EVEN MORE vulnerable than before when he only had his axe, since all you have to do is be literally right next to him until it finishes and you could just keep slashing him and beating on him up close, making the fight a lot more easy.
The actual No 1 is a double annoyance: Resurrecting Torrent
Step 1: Get a message informing you that you are about to use a flask to resurrect Torrent (which will lock everything but basic movement until accepted/declined)
Step 2: It's defaulted to NO (making you swap to the D-Pad, so not even able to move anymore, to change it to YES)
So true
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks that this is absolutely awful
I'm convinced this dialog option is a developer troll. There's NO situation in which Torrent has died that there's time to go through confirmation dialogs, especially for a resource that's just going to regenerate when you die. Like, yeah, that dragon just mashed Torrent into a fine paste, did a ton of damage to me and is preparing to cover the entire area with fire , but let's carefully consider whether I can afford to use one of my remaining flasks on the only thing that can get me to safety.
@@v_1d10_t You mean a downside like spending on of your own flasks?
And you do understand that Torrent can be one shoted by several attacks, making torrent heals irrelevant in that scenario?
I use an Xbox controller and no, just because I can tilt the stick while using the d pad, doesn't equate to deliberate moving. If you wanna find excuses, go for it but that doesn't change the fact how some controlls are badly optimised.
All they had to do was default it to yes
@@v_1d10_t That's what you are doing, I refuted both your claims as nonsensical and irrelevant. And instead of giving me a counter argument, you accuse me of what you are doing... You complain about my statement and how dare I to not agree with you.
You have the chance to proof me wrong, do it.
If torrent is killed by a one shot you are thrown off it, are vulnerable and in order to resummon it, have to spend one of your flasks to resurrect it. So you are stunned for a few seconds and use two flasks to heal yourself and resurrect torrent... what more punishment do you need? How is the structure of the message justifiable and an enhancement of the gaming experience?
Go ahead, it's your moment to show me how my assessment is wrong and you are right and that you are not just making excuses to avoid criticism towards a game you seemingly don't wanna see criticized .
I actually really like the chest teleports. You never know where you're going to end up and a lot of them show off really cool areas I need to go in the future which acts as a nice incentive to keep going and exploring.
Wow fifa getting desperate huh
@@BarcelonaRussia Nice troll. Gr8 b8 m8.
Me too!
For me I always get teleported right to next a grace
@@kjayyad it should because it takes Skills to play the game and it’s enjoyable
#1 for me has to be platforming. Like, I think I died more times trying to jump down to the 3 fingers than I did to Malenia and Maliketh combined.
No but seriously! Keep From Soft SUPER FAR AWAY FROM MARIO GAMES. OMG
so you didnt fight loretta? hmmm really
Same my dude, elden ring has too many platforming and its too janky for it
That’s actually my favorite thing about Elden ring
I had to help a buddy get down the bldg in Mt gelmir😂
My first experience with the game: I immediately turned around after getting into Limgrave at base level which was 9. Immediately stumbled on that treasure chest and ended up in that cave. I fought my way out but was still in the middle of Caelid, and I don’t think I had any sites of grace open in Limgrave. So I had to traverse Caelid at level 9 with NO map or knowledge of the game and had the worst time of it. But it made me stronger as a player and gave me this EPIC tier story to tell about it.
Similar situation happened w me
Builds character fs😂
This is insane dawg 😂😂😂😂, glad you stuck it out
It wasn't the first thing that happened to me but basically this. That chest is in such a dickish spot. But I was extra dumb about it. I didn't get caught by the trap first time around. I figured they were like the traps in DS2 where you trigger the trap, roll away, and then collect the goodie inside. Well, I opened it, dodged the trap, and then returned to the chest expecting a reward. The chest was closed again. Odd... but the trap was disarmed so it should be safe to open agai-
Poof! off to Caelid
@@AgentSapphire That is SUPER sad! Nobody should ever poof off to Caelid!
I had my wife play who has never played any souls games and she kept getting mad cuz she thought all the messages on the ground were from the devs so she just kept jumping off cliffs and everything. It was actually pretty funny watching it and not helping her
😅
What a great husband you are
As a wise man once told me upon playing Demons Souls so many years ago: "Git gud noob."
You need to clue her in sometime.
Eventually.
@@found6393 Nah, let her figure it out on her own, as we all did
I'm new to this franchise. I've never played a game that does so much to piss you off and make you accept you aren't built for this and wasted 60 bucks. AND I LOVE IT. Such a unique experience.
Its a throwback to retro gaming like melee is hardmode and very arcadey. Thats not a complaint.
@JK I don't find this game as challenging so much as time consuming. Once you get a feel for the game and the build you're playing it's actually quite easy. First souls game too
I cant tell if you’re being serious or sarcastic.
@@calebcarson9294 I was being serious. I wasn't sure it was for me after about 10 hours, but I stuck with it and absolutely love it
Yeah I just got to the capital but I’m starting to lose interest in the game. Which idk why it’s fun but it’s starting to get boring to me bow
When my friends and I first tried Margit we delegated a person to lose so we could see his attack pattern
He did not last 1min
Fun fact, and yes, I know this is months later: You do NOT have to complete Stormveil Castle to beat the game. You can completely skip Margit and Godrick by finding a secret path around the castle and into the next region.
Yes but if you cannot beat them you got no chance later on .
There is not much bosses with combination of such aggresive attack pattern and small arena, so I would say its perfectly okay to skip Stormveil Castle and come back later. For me personally was much easier to beat Renala and make my way to Altus plateau than beating Margit.
@@timkom2289Imagine
Just accidentally did this. And then went back and fought him anyway lol
honestly fighting Tree Sentinel at lvl 1 felt harder than Margit cuz I decided to grind every boss i find
I watched my buddy fight Margit. And Margit really likes to hold his attacks and wait till you panic dodge your all your stamina away. Margit walked towards my buddy with his arm up in the air charging an attack. So naturally as anyone would, my buddy panic dodged all his stamina away. And the mad-lad Margit is, decided not to even attack my buddy lol. He just put his arm down and jumped backwards. I swear sometimes the bosses know when you're not ready to actually fight them and they toy with you
Ikr the AI in this game is insane it really feels like you’re fighting a living breathing enemy not just an npc it feels like there’s someone with a controller on the other side, the sad thing is margits easy compared to what’s to come lol
@@Daniel-sx6vc That's not sad! It is awesome
the AI is smart and learns you
i was kiting tree sentinel around a pole and easily diispatching him before he caught on to my rotation an i had to switch it
plottwist: you were the buddy xd
@@daanonzea9375 No it was actually my buddy lol, when I fought him he didn't hold back and completely ended my souls career
I feel like Margit is the game's way of telling you "There's a crap load of stuff you can do before this boss. Do some of it, then come back with decent equipment and stats". I had the Bloodhound's Fang +2 by the time I fought him, and he went down fairly easily.
For me it was the tree sentinnel, you knoe what I did? I fought him for 5 hours till i got him then I started exploring, I knrw what I had to do but it was all too overwhelming lol
As a newbie I feel bosses that attack consecutively are still something I can't figure out, it seems they give no opening for attack and I have a fast dual curved swords. I beat Margit purely on more levels and potions, plus the quickstep which is was a godsend. But, on my own I still kinda randomed half of it on the second phase and got hit a lot. Similar patterns still baffle me, can't seem to figure out this thing.
If u get a friend or 2 it can hel with the aggro
@@FrozenAXL that's something that is hard to explain, just know that your dodgerolls are i frame, you phase trough attacks you roll out of teh way, so basically if its abig attack you will be able to heal or attack 2 to 3 times, and if you have a quick weapon then ususaly between each attack you can put a strike or two. also you endurance matters, even if you attack always have enough stam to roll out
I explored till I got to level 51 best him in 5 tries, didn't even take me an hour.
I'm glad they have the whole "If you die before you pick up your runes, you lose them forever" thing because it makes you play a certain way and gives you actual consequence
I get the appeal, but it just overshadows the fear of losing to a boss with the fear of losing hard earned money
It's hard to play a game & feel genuine fear as an adult. This gameplay mechanic instills fear, & like you said, consequences. It's close to real life that way, I love it too
Yeah but try to reach your runes on Torrent by a clif
“The first boss who’s like randomly hard as balls.” My exact feeling lmao. I still haven’t beaten him
Try fingers
But hole
Keep trying... heck try different weapons, talismans, 🛡 Shields, etc. and you'll get it. After you beat bosses it's such a rewarding feeling.
@@holeman101 ehh it's a ok feeling
Who the horseman guy with the giant shield. I beat him at lvl20. You can bypass him beat the 2 boses in the caves the cat statue at that half lion guy. They are doable at low lvls then the horseman guy will be beatable. The key is when he does an attack that drains all your stamina he gives you enough time to regenerate your stamina. Also don't fight him with your horse
@@dulzkyriveratovitch256 the horseman is annoyign but can be beat.....wait until players run into the actual strong ones that can use magic attacks and melee lol xD
I actually *LOVED* the chest teleport. At first, I was wandering around aimlessly and couldn’t find any real action. Then BOOM! I’m in the Selia crystal tunnel. When I finally escape, “Holy fuck, why is the sky red!?!?” I could’ve fast traveled back to limgrave after getting to the grace, but I didn’t know I could, since I had just started playing. I didn’t even have my horse yet! 😆 I then went up the hill to find a bunch of horrific big headed dogs and crows. I died against them the first time, so I had to sneak past them the second time to get my runes back. I felt like I was trying to escape Hell, and it was fucking amazing!
What an experience
The chest you're talking about I ran from it thinking I'd die from it
I literally did the exact same thing, thought it would be good to get some levels before I fought the tree sentinel, went into a cave then boom I was with some shrimp looking dudes. Died probably 50 times before I realized I could fast travel back lmao
Not to mention it shortcuymts you to 2 of the most op weapons in game. Meteor rod and rock sling.
Dude we played the same game. I IMMEDIATELY turned right coming out of the starting area and got teleported and didn't know I could teleport back yet, didn't have anything but starting gear. Geez it was rough.
One mechanic with the poison swamps that I'm pretty certain is new and was not present in previous games is that if you roll in them, they will stick to your character's upper body and continue to build up the poison meter even after you reach a safe spot.
It was a thing in Dark Souls 2. It's just the one poison area was so lousy with it that nibody noticed.
@@Ptmkn yep, I remember the horrible green sludge that’s uncomfortably slick
It's present in DS2. And in ER you can wash yourself with soap.
you gotta use soap. You can craft it later on as well iirc
It’s kinda new lol 😂
I'd like to see is a journal that lists all of the NPCs you've met as well as all of the lines of dialogue that you've unlocked with that NPC thus far. The journal could be broken down into sections which could include NPC dialogue, texts from sword fields, the cryptic dialogue with the various ghosts you encounter, all of your recipes learned (maybe turn the cookbooks into a usable item that adds the entries into the crafting section of the journal), and also move the notes and tutorial info out of the inventory and into their own section of the journal. Something like that would be useful but would still require the player to think about the things they are reading rather than have a full-on quest journal or markers.
Exactly. They did it brilliantly in Divinity Original Sin. Elden Ring could use this feature
I actually liked not seeing quest markers but what would have been at least a decent idea would have been a journal in the menu to at least keep track of the dialogs you experience over time with the npc's. Still not necessarily telling you where to go but it wouldn't force you to try and remember every piece of each individual quest, separately. Especially if you're running multiple quest lines
Ikr! I even wrote dialogue on my notepad
I think alot of the dialogue is in the menu where the paintings etc are
Going back to do side quests once you've already progressed a fair bit into the story is all the more frustrating because NPCs move around and they're not where you expect them to be or you've forgotten someone's name and now you're trying to figure out who it was and what they wanted you to do. Don't need someone to hold my hand but it does often feel like stumbling in the dark.
My biggest problem with this game is that you're tied to Google if you want to actually complete many quests. It's just impossible to know what utterly convoluted steps you have to take unless you google it. Especially when you can out-time quests and not meet requirements. Even with a step by step google guide it can be difficult
This is my problem as well. I have no problem needing to find locations of NPCs, but it’s ridiculous that I don’t even get a quest or conversation log of some kind to track what I can even do next. If I don’t immediately drop what I’m doing to do the next step in the quest, I am likely to forget with no real way of being able to discover the last dialogue I was give.
only casual souls player complain about this. real souls player has no problem with this 🙃
@@THELEGEND-wc2xr veteran souls player here and just like with the other souls game yes it’s a problem. If I have to buy a notepad and some pens and keep them handy (the souls way) yes it’s a problem. I’m trying to slap people around with a big slab of metal not study for a test. They aren’t asking for quests in your face but what they are asking for is a nudge. Breath of the wild did it and no one complained and what is elden ring but breath of the wild on fuck you difficulty. All they are asking for a nudge so calm down.
@@THELEGEND-wc2xr I'm pretty sure if someone has played a souls game they are a real souls player lol, sounds like elitism and gatekeeping to me
You probably need to notebook and write alot of stuffs if you dont use google for sidequests lol
For me Margit was the definition of the “when you do all the side missions first” meme. Was between level 30 and 40 when I fought him.
I tried fighting him early on didn't go so well came back lvl 30 to 35 and clapped him and godrick
Honestly I think he's easy by lv18 or so when I came back to him I tried at lv8 first and that was a mistake
Yeah I made sure to almost entirely do all of the limgrave and weeping area stuff before even heading to him as my first attempt was way too early! Haha
Yup. This whole game is like that. I'm probably like more than 50% through and I have yet to find a boss that gives me more trouble than a couple of tries bc I do all the side content before the critical path
Godrick is officially balanced against lvl 40 characters.
One I haven’t seen, not being able to check the map when enemies are aggro in the open world. It should take away fast travel and make it attackable as a trade-off like the inventory. Maybe I’m nitpicking but it impacts exploration when you’re forced off the path into Bumfuck, Egypt
Margit taught me how good I've gotten at learning the systems of the game. Lost a lot at level 25 on my first playthrough. Started a new playthrough after beating it the first time and beat Margit fairly quickly without leveling up once.
I feel like Margit is a big example of how heaps of NPCs combat seems heavily inspired by Dancer from DS3; that being like a slightly longer animation where you anticipate getting hit earlier and then get bonked after your i-frames. It's like you need to roll a second later than you think you do
They took all the feedback of people loving Dancer and made Sekiro, and people LOVED that too, and so they're encorporating different timings into attacks from then on. Not just faster or slower specific attacks, but also actively held timings, so they could mix things up with the exact same move.
@@KainYusanagi Thats a far better way of articulating it! Actively held timings is exactly what I was thinking about haha. Sekiro is the one I haven't played so I was naive to that progression there
Dancer fucked me up back in the day omfg...
See, this is why I just use the headless knight, fireballs, and a morning star.
This is my struggle right now, I roll too early. The Dancer is easy for me now because I have her timing down to a T, but even so, it’s much quicker in terms of he attacks so it’s more pinball reaction based as opposed to waiting for the right moment
My favorite note so far: “if only I had a hole, time for seed!” Also I like that there’s no quest markers. I feel like it encourages you to explore which leads to finding cool stuff.
I found the map short actually 😭
You don't need quest markers. You can place different markers, and you can't really forget the NPC locations. The world doesn't have lots of filler NPCs like other open worlds. So, it's pretty easy to remember the few you meet.
Even in RDR2, i always used quest markers, although It was optional. But here, I don't need them. It feels great to stumble upon a lot of random quests
My favorite is: Still no lover, Time for jumping off
My favorite: "Try two handing, but be careful for seed!"
Do wish we could access dialogue if we missed it don't have much interest running around blindly as fun as exploration is many of the quests and items in the game can be missed simply by killing a boss before you talked to an npc.
I'll admit that fighting Margit was a pain in the ass but then I realized that because of his constant aggression it actually helped me learn to wait to dodge instead of panic dodging like I was doing before. I think I fought him like 10 times minimum and most of those deaths were because I got either overly aggressive or didn't time a dodge just right. More of a learning experience than anything
About the npc's not being marked, it's both us and no. Those who stay in a specific location for a period of time will be marked, once you find and interact with them. But in unfortunately for those who's quest lines your trying to complete, one you trigger an event that causes then to move to their next location, then it becomes difficult to remember where your supposed to go, and what your supposed to do. Specially if and when you get side tracked.
Not being able to compare Armour while in store better be on here
Bro play FIFA before the world ends 💙❤️⚽️
It is not
That’s because all the armour in stores is shit.
Not that this disqualifies the annoyance, but for those getting caught in transporter traps, you CAN avoid them. Just mash the dodge button when opening any chest and your character will backstep out of the smoke before it catches you.
EDIT: You can also traverse swamps that usually force you to walk by backstepping, which is significantly faster. There are even Weapon Arts that give you exceptional swamp mobility!
Quickstep with daggers
@@jerryao Not necessary.
I've never been caught in any of the treasure chest traps for this very reason: you can dodge, and many times people leave messages that warn you about it. I kind of feel like I missed out not understanding this "universal" experience of being teleported to that nightmare cave haha
no way those transporter traps have really good loot on the other side give me all the op stuff early thx
Bro I literally do this everytime I'm opening a chest 😭 got caught twice and never again
8:30
Yes a notepad is helpful, however, the map gives you different marker icons in which you can mark npcs, boss locations, unexplored areas etc.
NPCs are marked on the map after speaking to them.
It has a great marker system that is constantly overlooked.
I noticed caves are marked in a brownish color circle
As a first timer from soft player, I killed margit in 4 attempts. I dont know if this helps people much but i used the wolf summons from ranni at the curch of elleh, the 2 plus 2 uchigatanas. I also summoned sorcerer rogier
Same for me, only thing I did different I was weilding Katana and Shield because I didn't think of dual weilding^^
And with Rogier and the Doggos it was do-able, even though it took a few tries to figure out at least some of his movements
Just a tip for anyone scared of those transporter chests. If you spam dodge to get away from the gas it doesn’t teleport you.
You can also just not interact with it, once you’ve opened the chest it’s a whole second prompt to interact with the smoke and get warped away. You can just stand still and eventually the chest will close back up.
If you play Elden Ring please seek a nearby therapist and touch some grass on the way out
@@BarcelonaRussia masochism is my hobby
@@BarcelonaRussia You are passionate for writing such comments..
Hiding any secrets?
@@trapaholic7702 what’s that
I have such a love-hate relationship with the message system, too. The constant “but hole” “secret path ahead” messages are a staple of the games and it wouldn’t be the same without them, but if I see one more “try two-handing” by those two armors at the Round Table I’ll lose it.
also anything is a dog
@@datonecommieirongear2020 yes... giant bats... beware dog...tortoise? dog... giant crab monster... you better bet thats a dog...
Easy solution to avoiding others messages? OFF-LINE mode, no invasions, no gankings, no Arse-wholes.
I'll agree with the round table, I put try jumping there, it's satisfying watching both crumble at once
@@Zittylol yeah but sometimes the secret passage messages are actually correct... sometimes...
I think the face thing is spot on, it could easily be fixed with an option to turn off your helmet showing that way you can still have the stats of the armor but also be able to show off your customization
I spent an hour creating a gorgeous femme fatale and burst out laughing when I started the game as a samurai 🤣 I immediately took the helmet off! Souls fashion is all, Cleanrot Knight or Crucible Knight Siluria armour sets my favourites, I come from the area in Wales where the ancient Celtic Silures tribe lived too so feel a kind of kinship with the Crucible set, there’s lots of Welsh accents & references in the Lands Between so I feel right at home 🙂
Even worse than the ladders is when someone leaves a message on an item that has a ambush around it, so you can't just run over it on the horse.
This! The item statue by the 5 giants was riddled with messages when I was trying to grab it on Torrent..
So fucking aggravating. Why do people have to troll so much.
some things will never change
As much as being transported to the Sellia cave was irritating at first, that experience once I got out and started looking around brought me back to my youth when I first played Morrowind and I would stumble on some amazing thing, I wouldn't give that experience up for anything! and honestly it's not even that big of a deal because the moment you get out of the cave you can just fast travel back to where you were, it'd be a different story if you had to ride back!
A lot of people are comparing it to morrowind. I’m glad to know other gamers remember that masterpiece before Bethesda went to shit.
@@ginomccoy3047 I haven't seen anyone else compare it to Morrowind yet but I am glad to hear I am not the only one! I agree, amazing game, I can't even tell you how many times I restarted that game...
@@meteorfreak777 yeah i wish elden had a journal like morrowind or at least a manual note pad in game so u wouldn't need a real one
@@Chonus I wish! Oddly enough I feel like Morrowind struck a great balance between not treating the player like they were stupid and giving them to tools (like you said) that you would just wind up having to have irl instead, like the notebook setting beside my Xbox for Elden Ring...lol
Free op staff and spell nearby too :)
I loved all the things in this video. Poison swamps in particular are great imo since they can drastically alter how you progress and fight in an area.
As someone that has played all of the Souls games, the one thing that I always hated were enemies with great bows because, more often than not, they knock you down if they hit you. The most annoying ones are definitely the ones that shoot you when you are trying to platform. The ones in Anor Londo especially come to mind.
True
If you fully explore limgrave and the weeping peninsula, Margit is pretty damn easy. Also, pick up Margit's shackle from Patches for an added helpful mechanic.
True, but I totally f***ed up by killing Patches, and losing the questline. You cannot unfortunately atone at the Church of Vows. There is option 2 for the shackle however, thanks to the ring.
In regards to keeping up with NPCs, there is a function on the map that allows you to place up 100 different markers at a time.
Luckily now we have markers for NPCs with patch 1.03
Ya this is still not it though they really need a more interactive map.
@@MH-ut1rc Debatable. I've yet to have any complaints about the map functionality 150 hours in. It does exactly what it needs to. Nothing more and nothing less.
@@thomasstewart1380 wait till your next play through
About point 5. I like it that there are no markers to point you exactly where to go. Makes you have to think a bit. But I would like to see which quests I started. and maybe see the last thing a character said. Because I am new to this game and franchise and was so busy learning the game, I did not realise there were side quests (which I already started) until like 1/4 into the game. And something else that I sort of hate of the quests is that some quests influence the game and other quests, hich I also did not realise.
>People hate how there are no quest markers
Honestly... The lack of quest markers made the game so much better. I was excited to explore and find things.
I like how there aren't any quest markers. I'm enjoying studying the map and exploring on my own. Most games I get sick of looking at the map and all the markers, so its a nice change for me.
So my issues isn't a lack of markers, but a lack of a log. There is too much to remember, and no way to log what you have and haven't done in a quest line short of keeping a notepad handy for all the conversations you have. It just makes side quests so easy to forget about or miss. It has caused me to spend half my time Googling why the quest I'm working on isn't letting me progress because I missed something
A lack of log is what this game needs. Too many things to remember
@@mavvynne444 you want to not remember stuff? To each their own, but I want a list of side quests to at least know if I've locked myself out of it or if I missed something before I progress
@@DarkSalvation22 I don't find it a problem personally. I've always kept a notebook for videogames besides me since Ocarina of time, but definitely do understand it's a problem for some players. A game cannot expect you to hold a notebook besides you at all time, however the quests in Souls are structured in such a way that you are going to be guaranteed to fail some and requires multiple playthroughs.
@@FromsoftgoatKaj That's why souls games have thier own genre, they will never be different, if people can't accept that then they should stop playing. I do take in the problems that people are complaining about, but it doesn't matter, the game is made, the game is out and it will never change - the only solutions are - acceptance or stop playing. Sorry if I'm being rude but it is what it is🤐
I love the minimal hand holding however, i wouldn't have minded some sort of journal where some crucial dialogues from quest NPCS get saved. Its sometimes hard to remmeber what wich quest NPC wanted what from you after 20hours of play and the step required for a specific quest just got available.
Yeah, if any souls came was gonna have a questlog or something, it was this game.
Especially when you only play a few hours a week. You forget what it is you needed to do.
I end up writing quest stuff on my notepad so I know what I need to look out for the next time I play. I never did this for other souls games since they are pretty linear. You just have to explore every single level once and that's it. But with how open Elden Ring's world is, I worry I'll miss too many sidequests. I've played almost 20 hours and am still searching for the tomboy lady a guy in the Roundtable asked me to look for.
There are some you can get from any merchant. It's a note with some clue usually important or helpful
@@akmal94ibrahim ah yes. That one
Ye a log for dialogue would be nice. Sometimes NPCs will tell you directions and u just have to remember they are. Sometimes they'll disappear so u have to remember the first time they tell you something like when ur trying to find the other half of the dectus medallion. And sometimes they straight up won't tell you where their quest will be like Blaid the wolf guy who tells you to find Dariwill. I like how there's minimal quest markers so u have to find things urself but would it hurt to have some actual directions? Its a big open world Blaid how tf am gonna find a 1 guy if ubdont tell me where he is.
Basilisks, beast torch is effective. Some are still scripted to attack when you move to a certain location, but it's usually a "player stepped here so i use this attack" and not an actual aggro.
Usually, you can just ignore them though. My first time seeing them, underground in a dark area. Had the beast torch, so actually didn't know how dangerous they were, found out they died to melee easily enough, especially cuz they weren't aggroing.
1. No obvious pause in Offline mode
2. Imps
3. Dogs
4. Basilisks
5. Astel
6. Gravity
7. Miquella's Haligtree Canopy
8. Drops to Frenzy Flame
9. Malenia's healing
10. Poison
Margit was legit my realization that this game was no joke hard. I love it and hated it. I must've faught him at least 30 times and when i beat him I had the mental rush to explore the castle and find the next boss
I hated and loved the fight too, it was so *thrilling!* best boss I've ever fought in a game
I've played through dark souls 1-3 and this Margit is my second favorite first boss is Gundyr from dark souls 3 took me 3 hours to beat him with the thief starting class and I've been hooked since. Margit was much easier for me but guess that's just since I've learned how to play this style of games.
.... just to get more and more confidence with the regular enemies, and then die horribly to boss lol been there alot
Beat him 6th try but hated that save so got new one beat in one try
Tip, in the “group” password settings, make one of the groups “Seekers”, it’s a community of serious secret finders, that help you throughout the game fighting bosses and finding secrets with messages. Boss is weak against fire “Try fire”
Secret out of the way to find? They’ll hint “This way, behold, secret!”
They’ve helped me a lot.
Edit: You can also dodge from chests to escape the gas trap, fun and helpful fact!
Tips before bosses are a grace maaan!!
There was one boss weak to blood loss and there was a note. I swapped to my flail and bled that fire dog animal thing!!
There are trolls in that community too.
But if you dodge, you will never know where it would have teleported you. This question would bug me way more than just losing a few souls * ehem* runes.
@@co2_os They aren’t as prevalent, and you should always check to see if there is anything cool with your camera first.
Cheers from Vaati folks!
I know this video is made 8 months ago but I want to comment about some changes.
1. NPC locations are marked on the map along with site of grace or individually except NPCs on the roundtable hold. (I am still very early into the game so I m unaware of any changes in the late game)
2. On getting trapped in entrapping snare, If we find and rest at site of grace then you can fast travel to safe location except in the Dungeons ( I didn't get to the particular trap shown in the video )
A few of these are resolved, like NPCs are marked on the map after discovery, and actions are always the first selected option, above messages and such, so even if a message is at the bottom of a ladder, go to the ladder and press triangle or whatever, and you'll start instantly climbing the ladder. You have to cycle through the lesser options to read a message. Same with levers, doors, items, etc. The important action is the first option.
The messages at the bottom of ladders is still a problem. Somebody put two messages on top of each other at the bottom of one ladder and it took quite a while to the the climb option to appear.
First Souls game for me (I intend on playing all of them now) and I gotta say, I caught on to the dying frequently thing pretty quick. Mostly from my time with a full loot pvp game I used to play. I lost a large load of runes the other day due to a cliff and laughed for a few minutes. I'm really digging this game. I love stumbling across stuff. It's such a relief from the constant quest logs and markers in other games and reminds me of the early days in WoW when I'd be excited to see a chest near a bunch of mobs. I really feel immersed in the world and that's something I haven't felt for years.
welcome to the family my friend. you'll never go back
I feel the same about everything u just said and it’s also my first souls game and I also plan to go and play others
Exactly this!
Same bro. Look at my profile pic, I literally grew up playing only cod😅 I’m so glad I gave this game a shot. I’m addicted. I’m definitely checking out dark souls at some point.
YOU DIED
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GIT GUD
welcome to DS
Regarding Margit, in Dark Souls 1 the starting areq diverged into 2 paths, one of which had some very tough enemies. This is how the devs told the players that unless you want a tough challenge you're better off going the other way and come back when you reach a higher level. The same logic applies to Margit: the devs want you to spend some time levelling up in the world before facing him
Ds3 was the only souls game that got ride of multiple choices at the start.
If you go to the weeping peninsula it’s pretty easy and spot of materials for starting out I’m there at lv 54 lol
It was there in demons as well. You can always stumble into tough locations. You've to explore
This is why DS2 ironically had one of my favorite starts in the series. Every choice was valid, but if you ran into something that stumped you you could just go a different way.
*malenia still waiting in her chair while the main character struggles with margit* “ok whats taking so long”
Only thing I want is some sort of tracker for quests/dialogues. Specially so that it's open-world so people are bound to get distracted a lot, which is not much of a problem with past games since they're pretty linear. The amount of times I had to look up the Wiki just to remind myself gets frustrating. Also, adding a "Hide helmet" feature like in Monster Hunter would be really nice.
I love everything about the notes. It almost makes me feel like I'm with a giant group of friends and we're all playing togother at the same time. Wich in a way, is exactly what it is. And all the lighthearted joking notes lightens the mood when I feel like rage quitting.
Agreed but like number one on the list I hate the ladder messages but I do like the ones in chest it’s like you get double loot
Behold, friend!
Yes we are all good friends. Friends who leave a note telling you to jump of a cliff
For every bad joke, there is a helpful message during a moment of "Where am I? Where do I go? What do I do?!"
I hate the ones placed over site of graces, so irriz
People complaining about the lack of quest log: the map allows you to place markers with different icons which is surprisingly useful to remember different locations and what’s there. As limited as it is it’s still a pretty useful feature which I recommend using if you’re overwhelmed
Yea, but people are not used to think for themselves in games. I personally don't like when games tell me exactly where to go. It removes the sense of adventure and From made their world a real joy to explore. I remember playing old Gothic games and legit writing stuff down as a kid. But majority of people playing Elden Ring just follow the golden arrow and then complain about Margit being difficult.
@@_Just_John xD Margit is not even hard which is the sad thing. his moveset is just a little cringe, the game doesnt give you enough defensive resources to actually flow in combat with him so it is literally wait 2 secs longer than usual to dodge his big hits and then everythign else just dodge backwards.
@@kregman6928 Yea, those delayed hits always throw me off at the beginning, but you just have to adjust... So of course Margit is not hard. It's the first boss most people encounter. And ER has a ton of crutches like stat enhancing consumables, summoning ashes, NPCs, other people... Patches even sells an item, which "grounds" Margit for a few seconds. In Elden Ring you can easily control the game's difficulty if you are not lazy to explore. Which is a great game design imo.
Hey how do you do that ? I can only place one marker
@@raider_reaper_4194 hold square, you can pinpoint things and chose icons for them
You can also use blood hounds step or just the generic quick step to avoid the slow affect in the poison swamps
8:30 I mean before they patched that feature in, I would just mark NPC locations on my map where I found them and would then just try to keep an eye out for them whenever I went somewhere new. Because the fact that Elden Ring has a really detailed map is actually something of a game changer for souls-like games. Granted I only ever got lost once or twice in Bloodborne, but the map has the functionality to help you keep track of NPC's.
I loved the Margit Boss fight. Once I became patient enough not to to dodge too quickly when he would do certain attacks, it was a pretty fair and fun fight. That being said, I also made sure not to go into it until level 30, so I was a little bit more prepared in terms of endurance to be able to dodge and attack effectively.
It was easier to love because the site of grace is literally right outside the boss arena. So I always felt motivated to jump back in and try again. What sucks is when the walk back is long.
I suspect that Margit is only hard if you go STRAIGHT to him. I explored until I was slightly above Lvl 30 and then went to him. He's pretty easy at that point.
Above level 30? Jesus dude😂 I beat godrick at 28
True. I went to him at like lvl 15 maybe. I'm now 55 lol. Just gonna get a few more lvls and THEN I'll go back to him.... maybe
I just beat him today, first try, surprisingly
started as a wretch, decided to go try my luck at level 25
He's very agressive, true, but I don't think he's that hard idk
never finished any other souls game before btw
@@blackfacegaming191 fr. I beat him at like 18 or 19 and it felt pretty fair. I did good enough damage but still got destroyed if I fucked up which happened frequently lol
@Peyton Lester I wanted to make sure I was prepared for the rest of the game. Don't even know who Godrick is. 🤣😂🤣🤣
13:27 it’s even worse when there is an item drop from enemies and bloodstains at the base of the latter along with the messages I’ve had it happen and I haven’t gone to that cave since then
The Issue that many players face with Margit is they assume this is the next progression step while under levelled and geared then give up shortly after but Elden Ring is an open world, it wants you to explore the rest of Limgrave then Weeping Peninsula as these areas provide the upgrades and gear that will allow you to progress pass Margit, Godrick then to other areas.
None of this irritates me all that much... except for the last one. I will tolerate seeing 100 "Try finger, but hole" messages just to see the one that points me in the direction of a critical, largely optional treasure (weapon, incantation, talisman, etc) I would've missed otherwise. But players putting messages in locations that get in the way of playing the game itself is the most irritating part to me. They put them under ladders, right at the very top of them, right next to levers, i've opened a few treasure chests and is met with a message in my face! In most cases the interactive object takes priority over reading the message but every once in a while trying to jump on a ladder before getting sliced in the back feels like a juggling act. Flipping through the option of reading the message to climbing the ladder or running up to a lever and reading the message instead of pulling it while the wave of enemies I ran past start to catch up.
Now i'm just going full blown Karen and down voting messages like that based on location instead of just what they are saying lol
I forget what dungeon it was (somewhere between late-Lurnia and Altus/Gelmir) and I ended up losing 150K since I was lower level and my runes got stuck in a dungeon... The only exit from the area being the boss fight and A LADDER guarded by A VIRGIN MAIDEN! there was a message right in front of the ladder
Remember that downvoting the message still heals the person
Don’t forget about blocking sites of grace with messages
I downvote those troll messages too because they’re more than annoying and i wish those troll players would get banned for life for putting messages on ladders and levers
Max range for spells is really annoying sometimes, especially when mobs can hit you and your spells vanish just before hitting them. Also, dogs. Worst enemies in the game.
Tell me about it. I use the moonlight greatsword and half the time It either hits the ground or the rays go right through them cause "I'm too far"
I didn't mind dogs that much, but fuck those fire spitting razor birds
Dogs and those birds in stormveil castle.
I fucking hate the Dragonflies just because they Spin around for ages and then they'll hit you for literally 2 damage and they are just annoying
@@Mystic-Midnight Motion sickness simulator when you're locked onto one of em fuckers
About number 2, especially when you encounter swamps you cannot run or lava, put 'quick step' ash of war (or bloodhound steps) to a dagger and press the special attack button (ctrl in PC). You'll be able to move fast as long as you have FP.
Flame, cleanse me incantation would be useful in removing scarlet rot/ poison build up.
I, too, quickly learned in Elden Ring: to make the fight against Margit easier, faster and more efficient you shouldn't fight him too early, but have leveled up the character and its main weapon a bit and gained experience with the combat system, but that goes quite quickly ... then you should go ahead at the beginning of the fight at the portal and summon the NPC Sorcerer Rogier to help, also a robust spirit ashes, if possible with several spirits, and you should definitely have purchased "Margit's Shackle" from the NPC Patches beforehand (see WIKI) and use it next to Margit in the fight three times before Margit gets his glowing hammer ... and then this fight isn't as bad as it's always portrayed ... Godrick as the final boss in this castle isn't as violent as feared either, you can summon the NPC Nepheli Loux, Warrior and spirit ashes for help as well (see WIKI) ... and if you act agile and smart, you may prefer to use a fast weapon without long animations, stay close to the boss if possible and don't just run away most of the time, then these fights are over relatively quickly ... doing all this I killed them both in my first try with my different characters ... only imo all the other tricks and tips confuse more than they help ... Elden Ring offers all these possibilities, the developers didn't do it for nothing, so you can and should use all of them as a player, it can be that simple
to No. 5: it wouldn't have hurt if the developers had at least integrated a diary so that it's easier to remember what you've already done or which quest lines you've triggered, instead I now have a lot of handwritten notes so I don't lose track, for me this is my biggest problem in Elden Ring ... but on the other hand, I don't have any problems with occasionally providing information in the WIKI or here on CZcams when, despite all my efforts, I really don't know what to do and that doesn't reduce my enjoyment of the game, on the contrary it protects me from too much frustration and guesswork ... but that's nothing why I have to "hate" the game because it's entirely up to me how I deal with it
yes, those annoying portal traps, but it's very simple, either you instantly roll back a long way when such fog traps appear, or in the new area - and otherwise - you just run away or out as quickly as possible instead of always fighting everything that comes your way and what you don't know yet
Astounding to me that anyone entrenched in video games cannot see that Margit is an intentional developer decision. He is supposed to be extremely hard for when you are first likely to find him so that you turn around and explore more of Limgrave and get stronger. If he was steamrollable like Taurus Demon, then there are so many nooks and crannies players would not have discovered.
Yea. But people expect the game to tell them everything. "Area ahead requires level 15." was a joke in "What If Dark Souls Had An Easy Mode?" video by Indeimaus made 6 years ago.
Well you do have a point. I went straight to Margit and didn't come back to the rest until after about 3 great runes. Was really easy and less fun.
2:09 When he talked about getting another message about a hidden wall is annoying I laughed because the wall he was standing in front of was actually a hidden wall lol
Yeah, not even that, at 1:38 hes showing examples of troll messages like the one you commented on and the one hes showing isnt a troll either, i jumped on that rope thing there and then again across to the other side, so bad example for trolling there as well lol
those stunlock dogs OMG
For number 5, at least in ER you got actual map and you can place all kinds of markers, which is something you don't find in from soft earlier games. So, that part it's not actually bad as in dark souls etc.
I’m more annoyed about how many dishonest “hidden path ahead” notes there are. A few neckbeards are soiling their socks with glee in how funny they think they are.
Are there even hidden paths in this game, cause i'm beginning to doubt that
Have you ever played goat games like FIFA or any other EA games g? ❤️💙🙌🏾
@@WimpieInator
I've seen a couple hidden paths. The messages absolutely ruin the chances of finding them though.
@@WimpieInator There are but not that many. I found a catacomb with some and i've seen them in a couple of other spots. They're pretty rare though I think.
There are some in the magic academy place, and mines. I've found maybe 5?
As a Souls veteran, I WOULD very much appreciate a quest log. It’s great that they did add NPC locations to the map now, but it would be a good convenience, even if it just keeps track of dialog.
+1
Facts, I don't have the memory or time to want to keep note on everything I do and or hear😬
I think this would be a bad idea, if you struggle to follow the questline just look it up on the internet or just dont do the quest if you dont know how
@@elminex1694 “just look it up on the internet “ everyone isn’t like you we don’t want to have to keep looking it gets tedious and it’s time consuming
@@elminex1694 lol how fucking immersive, either just skipping the quest or constantly looking shit up online.
I actually didn't know about Margot's shackle until I had already beaten him...and he wasn't any more difficult for me than and of the other bosses. The only boss I'd say I really struggled to beat was Malena. I had to actually use online matachmaking for that one. The rest I soloed offline. I'm currently at the end of NG+2. One I find a way to beat the Elden beast, I'll be on NG+3. And the only boss I didn't solo would be Malena. I even tried helping others beat Godrick in THEIR worlds.
The most annoying part for me has to be losing souls, I can handle dying over and over, but I hate the stress and anxiety of losing thousands of Runes
Equip a dagger or anything with the "Quickstep" art on a spare slot when negotiating poison, Quickstep basically allows you to Sonic the Hedgehog through the poison and reduces build up.
What are we negotiating for?
@@jeremy92698 whether you die of poison or not!
Or use the cleanse poison faith
OR just literally be an adult, quickly get through it and then use one of the many ways to get rid of it as opposed to seizuring your way through.
@@lutherheggs451 Lol, isn't quickstep just a way to quickly get through it, ya know, using resources to your advantage.
first time I play a souls game as a mage, feels like a breeze, not easy mode tho, but definitely better outcomes in boss battles than melee in my experience
Tip for people who can’t get past Margit: Use the Rotten Stray summon and Rogier. The stray will inflict scarlet rot and all you have to do after is just dodge until he’s dead. Works on most early game bosses.
I accidentally beat Margit first try and low level because I summoned Rogier. Rogier is so good, he did more than half the damage.
I felt Number 8 so hard. I'm currently wearing The Bandit Mask to kind of mitigate it. It'd be nice to have a "hide helmet" toggle in the settings.
Number 5 makes me wish they had a journal. Just so I'd have some idea of where to go to continue the story. At this point, I'm just going to keep leveling up until I can maybe slaughter everything and guidance won't be necessary. I'll just stumble into everything and be too strong for the required level to matter. I'll get to like boss design on NG+3 or something.
One message that made me laugh out loud was “liar ahead”. Pretty basic, then you go a bit further and the next message says “liar behind”.
For number 8 a simple solution would be a hide helmet option In the settings so you still gain the stats from it but it shows your characters head instead
Actually Nioh games have that option. I have always wondered why From Software haven't thought about it. I will still play without the helmet though, cause I ain't accurately creating a character to hide it under a mask afterwards :D
Yeah but isn't dark souls character creator the first back stab challenge the game throws at you? Where you work hard to make your character fit your immersion and then cover the face with a helmet.
Take your damage reduction like a man.
…You can also take off the helmet???
Like am I the only one doing that?
Full armor, no helmet or hood.
That point really blew my mind how nit picky people can be. Also, what’s the point of a helmet that doesn’t cover your face?
Why some of the helmets are actually badass looking and let's be real dark souls has never had a good character creator and it's not like there is dialog cutscenes like in Witcher 3 or dragon age where it would look stupid to be wear a helmet inside a safe zone while talking to people. That option seems pointless in this game.
? It does mark the NPC’s though, you can see em at sites of grace or the little boxes, plus you can mark locations as well also tip for the haligtree scarlet rot swamp, use quickstep to get through it
The thing I hate the most is when input doesn't work. I press the button and HEAR the in-game noise as it's recognized but the action doesn't happen till I press again. Drives me absolutely mad
Missed my number one annoyance, not updating their junky co-op for something a bit more appropriate for such an open world.
"Hey cool, my buddy and I found a dungeon, ok, let me leave, ride my horse over, then take two steps past the fog wall for a re-summon."
I swear I've spent as much time leaving and joining friends as I have playing the game with them lmao
It would be cool to be able to port the party to certain graces in dungeons as long as a boss hasn't been slain. Like you can't go to any open world grace or the roundtable hold, but a catacombs, or cave, or another location that you can summon for a mini-boss. And as long as the host has the grace, then the whole party can port to it.
Use the effigy if they are oustide of a boss. Puts your summon side at all boss fights
I wonder how the lock on mechanic didn't make it on this list. It's so annoying when you look straight up to an enemy but it won't let you lock on to him. Or when the enemy is behind you and when try to lock on, you look in the opposite direction exposing your back to the enemy. Can't say how many deaths this caused for me.
I feel you XD I noticed it locked on to the target that is closest to the middle of the screen no matter how far or close the enemy is i hate it
The middle of the screen lock on is very annoying.
100% agree! Doesn’t help if the camera can’t find anything to lock on it’ll swing to where you’re facing which usually is the opposite direction I want when I’m running away from a boss xD!
I was fighting Agheel and the lock on switched to a dragonfly without warning. Ah yes, just what I wanted.
It locks on the deer lmao
Just picked up the game, just hit level 24, I have to say this odds such a wonderful game!!! It checks the boxes of action, adventure, great combat, boss battles, exploration, open-world VS. Empty-world, it’s fantastic and I was surprised with the realistic stealth mechanic. Favorite of the series so far! Thank you for your video 👊
8:15 The only real hints about where to go is the golden streams shooting through the air to graces you’re close to, but that’s kind of the whole open world exploration theme of the game.
One thing that drives me nuts in this game, is, when you're knocked prone by a boss, it takes way too much time for you to stand back up, during which time you have no chance because the boss continues to pulverize you. So flippin' annoying.
UPDATED: Thanks for all the helpful replies, I am a Soulsbourne noob, heheh, so I didn't realize I could simply roll and get back up quickly. Thanks guys!
Or when they “strategically” hide enemies behind every wall in every cave so you will more than likely get hit for a big chunk of your health. That’s also extremely annoying. The devs are super petty
You don’t take damage when knocked down
You're invincible in the floor, and u can pretty instantly stand up with a roll
Especially knowing that in sekiro, you dont stand until you roll away, but here you dont have control over it. So its definately something they could have added 🤔
@@rewbles6247 you must be new here, keep your head in a swivel tarnished you’ll be okay
They're trolling Skyrim because they knew everybody would say "Open World? Dragons? Skyrim!" Kudos to From! You got a Skyrim HOSS that climbs mountains! Character menu that lets you make your Hawt Character then armour so you never see them! All they missed is Nazeem.
Fun fact: If you fear you're gonna die on your way to recollect your lost runes you can equip a sacrificial twig in your talisman slot, that way when you die without recollecting them you get another shot at getting them back.
Twiggy Cracked Tear for the Wondrous Physick does the same thing lasts a while 3 minutes too, or quit out of the game if you think you’re about to die 👍🏼
The answer to what exactly the pots are, they collect the corpses of dead heroes until they get big enough and die at an erdtree which the erdtree requires said heroes as fertilizer to grow.
So inside every pot is full of dead people, the one at the arena in Caelid is a horrific thought
Pretty sure I saw a "Display Helmet" toggle in a menu somewhere...
Also, you can avoid the teleportation traps by backing away from the chest after you open it. Just avoid the cloud.
Play fifa before the world ends bro ❤️💙🙌🏾
Can confirm that you can dodge back to avoid teleport chest cloud
@@BarcelonaRussia man i see ur trolling and replying to these comments and i think that instead of wasting ur time here for a pointless joke go play ur favorite game
There is an option to remove the helmet in the status menu.... however, it ONLY removes it in the actual status menu. It unfortunately doesn't remove it in game.
@@BarcelonaRussia fifa is over complicated pong. There's nothing wrong with liking that, but there's nothing revolutionary or immersive to sports games in general.
*Margit isn't even that difficult if you take the time to explore the southern part of the map*
It's arguably one of the easiest areas, and one of the most rewarding. Especially for the early game
TRUE, you can get the fucking moonviel in caelid for gods sake, one of the best weapons in the game. Not to mention summons, the free 30 ish levels at the start of the game from big dragon in caelid, the fact you can +9 unique weapons before margit, the fact you can simply walk past him and godrick and go straight into the liruinia, atlas plateu, etc.
+u can play as a sorcerer, self explanatory.
I love the no quest markers. I love that I feel like I’m on my own adventure left to my own devices to figure out the world and beat the game
The thing I hate the most is accidentally emoting when I'm actually trying to summon Torrent lol
Spell range is number one. Don't allow targeting if you can't reach them.
Also, some AOE spells mysteriously miss baddies that are clearly in the area but might be slightly off up/down, like on a ramp or in a little divet
Yup. That's jank like only Dark Souls can provide.
Your first point isn't really reasonable. Different spells have different range. You want them to make the lock on switch ranges when you switch spells? Just remember the range of your spells. It's not that bad
I got teleported literally within my first hour...it was not fun...but I did end up leveling up 20 some levels, and was able to beat Margit in 3 tries because of all the training I got in, so there was that lol
Where did you get teleported from in your first hour?
@@luiscnchl Dragon Burned Ruins I believe is what it’s called.
I love the no quest marker but I do wish there was a quest journal. I mean this is easily remedied with a pen and paper but still. Sometimes I don't even know if I'm starting a quest.
I tend to explore al lthe time instead of doing "the main quest" so when I first fought Margit the Fell I didnt even find him that difficult(just intimidating from what Ive heard). At that point I had good weapons, incantation and upgraded summons so destroyed in under two minutes XD
40+ hours in and i dont think i hate anything about it so far. Maybe some bosses suck to fight with my build but thats anout it.
Radahn in particular
A couple bosses punish my greatsword build, but I love the freedom to just move on and come back to it since there is no real limit to exploration. Pushing through difficult lands low level is satisfying.
@@garrethendrix6643 if you got it: smack him twice with the Dragon Rot thing. You can then basically AFK the boss.
The only thing I hate about elden ring are the multi bosses, they will make two bosses that work and are fun to fight, then put them together when they were definitely not meant to be fought together
@@shirotheshibainu2103 i know precisely what ur talking about...
The thing with Margit is that the game literally spends an age showing you a myriad of new things. You're meant to take ALL of the new things and blend them together. There's a NPC summon right outside the door (first one you see of its kind), there's a "summon stuff" shrine next to THAT, consumables to throw at him, etc. While yes, you have to do SOME exploring, I've not needed to "grind to level 93" or whatever before attempting him. He's cake at this point.
...but early on, that "oh shit!" moment of first seeing him comes with a wave of panic, and you'd better have learned those lessons well that the game has been showing you.
My first two attempts at Margit were basically a recalibration of my Souls expectations. I missed the summons, rolled at all the wrong times and got punished for trying to tank with a level 11 Vagabond. After those two attempts I roamed the map picked up some knowledge, weapons and levels before taking him out with only minor difficulty.
Dark souls vet here so right of the rip I hooked a left an b lined in right to the chest that toile me to Selina cave then spent the next 80 hours wandering around the lands between murdering every boss I could find never getting any achievements wonder where all the lords are hiding and at this point I was a pretty high level and got to a gate that said I needed to defeat two shard bearers to proceed so i quick went to the round table hold to gather all the information I could then back to the first step and the white mask told me where to go, then I realized I had passed two lords already don’t know what possessed me to go around them but I was way to over leveled and completely smashed Stormvile castle with the exception of the crucible knight. But to make a long story short this is dark souls with an open world and I love it. My only wish is that there where more areas like stormvile where you get one bonfire and have to discover multiple shortcuts to your way back I currently have 150 hours in the game and am maybe 75% done minus all the quests I messed up or missed. And I will get every ending, piece of equipment, spells and all quests with one character!!!
First time I beat Margit I died a thousand times, second time I beat Margit, I don’t die at all. His attacks do not have a lot of patterns, and it gets confusing when he switches the attacks from his front to his back. He can be beaten once you learn his strat but even then it’s hard for new players to get a hang of fighting him. Though he was less of a disappointment than Godrick, which I only died like 4-5 times from, and he’s meant to be tougher than Margit using his dragon head. But btw trust me that when he grabs that dragon head, his dragon flamethrower attack makes him EVEN MORE vulnerable than before when he only had his axe, since all you have to do is be literally right next to him until it finishes and you could just keep slashing him and beating on him up close, making the fight a lot more easy.