Are Panerai watches good?
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Hands-on review of 3 Panerai luxury dive watches: Panerai Luminor Marina 42mm, Panerai Luminor Piccolo Due 38mm and Panerai Submersible 42mm.
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Tried this mob after you recommended them… I bought and paid for a new Omega Seamaster 600m. Told it was being dispatched, then it had been sold and it was a mistake on their system but when I asked why it was still for sale on their web site I was then advised that they couldn’t sell it to me due to Brexit! However if I’d let them hold the cash, they could order in another example in around 5 week! Interestingly it’s still showing as available almost a week later #very-confused 🤔
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Panerai were never made in Florence, cases and movements were ordered from Rolex so mostly it is Rolex who was manufacturing Panerai… The company has lied too many times throughout their communication and this is the reason these watches have lost their credibility and popularity even though their design is nice and unique. But with low prices on the second hand these become interesting…
That 38mm Panerai with 200m water resistance I would 100% buy.
Yeah 30m is just a joke.
A water resistance of 30m is just a straight up insult to the heritage of the Luminor line.
Agreed, but on the other hand are you really going to use such a watch to dive with?
@@vizuz lol. not even 1% of Panerai's ever get wet.
Need 100m then I'm in
My first luxury watch was a Panerai, and I'm still a huge fan since I think they make the coolest watches of any brand. Given the recent negative talk about the direction and viability of the brand, it's great to see someone of Adrian's caliber give Panerai the love and support they deserve!
A Luminor Due (42mm) was my second automatic watch. I always loved the design but the thickness was a killer for me. When the Luminor Due came out i tried it on and fell in love with the dial and wearability. Don't care about the 30m i am not going swimming sith it anyways and it's a perfect mix between classy/dressy and still sporty for these summer weekends!
First watch I was truly interested in was a Panerai. I’d seen it online accidentally after browsing Omega and Rolex but I’d never seen anything so unique. I was set on working towards purchasing one for myself. I hadn’t fully comprehended the size, though. I don’t have a ton of real estate on my wrist and the watch looked like a shoebox on my forearm. It was a depressing blow to the dream but a lesson in try it on before purchasing.
Love the channel! Thanks for the content.
I tried one. A 42mm Radiomir thinking it would be to big but was surprised how well it fitted my wrist. It felt very elegant and sleek. I can understand how they were so popular. If even asked the ad if they were not popular anymore but was told they are very much still popular and attract a lot of attention in the shop window.
Thanks Adrian. I’ve been considering a Panerai for awhile. Would love to see a second video around your take on the counterfeit and movement stories associated with Panerai. That still gives me pause about the integrity of the brand.
I recently bought a Luminor Pam0796 and absolutely love it. It oozes quality. It’s 44mm - which is the standard size for Panerai- but does not wear too big on my 7” wrist. The 0796 is a ‘destro’ Luminor for left handers so has the crown guard on the other side. Very few watchmakers cater for left handed people who prefer to wear their watch on the right wrist. The only other example I can think of is the Tudor Pelagos.
I love your reviews, they don’t feel like reviews. You’re the king my man 👏
Thanks brother 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Nice video Adrian. A point I think worth making with brands in the richemont group (more than SWATCH and LVMH I feel) is that the pressure seems to be off every brand to fill every segment - they seem quite happy for panerai to be a one trick pony as long as that trick is doing ok, likewise JLC, Cartier etc. It makes comparing brands within groups that are like role players in a team with independents (or flagships like Omega) a little tricky.
I recently got a Luminor Base 3 day, I love the simplicity of the dial paired with the chunky industrial, yet polished case. The crown guard is epic, and a nice feature. The dealer / salesperson told me they are addictive and I would be back…and I keep looking at the submersible.. I guess you’ve heard the Sly Stallone story about how he discovered them while filming. Quite interesting. Great video!
Great vid as always! I wasn't sure about Panerai for years, until recently, when I had a look at the Due range in my local AD. I'm still not sure id buy it, but the titanium PAM00926 absolutely blew me away.
Beautiful. The Luminor PAM233 is my grail watch and one day I'll get one!
Do it! It is a fantastic watch. I love mine.
Will probably be my next buy. I'm moving to Italy, so why not? Great stuff, as usual. Many thanks!
amazing lesson of history and the line explanation.
my personal experience with PAM 960 Carbotech 42 mm
purchased in December 2020
i am an active person, doing sports, lots of water activities.
after one of my trips to the beach my bezel got stuck and nothing seemed to help to bring it back to action
had to drop it down to the boutique for a check up
result - couldn't be fixed in the service center - shipped to Switzerland, resting there somewhere on the shelf as i write these lines.
different from case to case but my experience is not smooth at all
but to add on a wearability - yes, its an impressive piece/daily wearer for sure
Many thanks for another great video, always a pleasure to watch at. I love my PAM now moving to get an Anonimo to my collection... Cheers, Miguel
Great video Adrian, agree 100%, Panerai vastly underated.
The PAM 00795 to me seems to offer the ideal combination of features the brand is known for.
Manual wind, 8 day movement, Power reserve indicator, Sandwich dial, 44mm case size
I'm glad that I own a 312 which has been with me for the last 8 years, Panerai is a fun watch, the built quality is really good, it is simple yet very distinctive with rich history. You can easily dress it up or down. I think it will be hot again once people get tired of the currently over hyped brands.
They seem to be hot atm. Atleast it feels like it in Finland. Enthusiasts seem to be after those here.
@@Reladan187 Woohoo, Panerai just updated their movement. Who wouldnt want 3000 dollars more watch that couldnt hack. Yes, Panerai themselves admit their new movement cant hack.
Too much shady business where Panerai make false claims about origin of movements, it has occured over three times.
@@bigboiganiga8356 and ?
Had a 312 for a year, it was uncomfortably heavy in steel, made my wrist ache. A year or so later they brought out the 351, same watch as the 312 but with a titanium case and gold hands, much better for me.
Got my first Panerai (Luminor Firenze) this week… what timing for this video. Always wanted one cuz if that crown guard and thought it simply cool.
Great review
Nice one Adrian. Love my PAM 183. Simple, time only, manual wind, ETA movement for ease of servicing and a true strap monster. Love Panerai.. totally underrated in my opinion
I consider myself among the Paneristi, having 4 models. I love the charm and uniqueness of Panerai and visited Firenze several years ago. I myself prefer the older hand-winding models, having a year 2000 PAM055, a 2002 PAM112, a 372, and finally an auto - the PAM1024. People liked to knock PAMs for the size, neglecting to consider the fact that the case size was required because of the pocket-watch movements inside. This and the crown guard became Panerai DNA and I would not have it any other way.
Well said regarding the size. It puzzles me to see people laud heritage but yet bash size (which is part of heritage). You have a cool collection there man. Wear them in good health.
I think a plain, 3-6-9-12 dial with no seconds hand and a hand wound movement is still the best way to go for a Panerai. Just so simple and the hand wound movement means you actually have to flip the crown lock every 3 to 8 days depending on the movement.
100%
I just picked up a luminor marina I agree but I got the sun second hand as I time 30 second intervals everyday at work as a physical therapist. I got the 8 day power reserve. Such a cool watch
The quality of your videos continues to improve.... it's an amazing job! Love the style...
Nice sum up at the end....really fun watches with deep heritage to own, very comfy on the wrist. I can't stop admiring my 2 pieces. The PAM 670 is my holy grail Pam.
I do like Panerai a lot actually. Never owned one, but I think I may dip my toes in soon. Thanks for this great video Adrian
I have a PAM01537 and absolutely love it … cool and unique look and, at 42MM, super comfortable on the wrist. Love the 72 hr power reserve too… Panerai is a great and necessary addition to anyone’s collection
What does the power reserve do? There a battery?
The PAM0321 is my first and up to now only luxury watch. I searched carefully before I bought it new on Chrono24. An important criteria for me was having functions I would find useful and while I’ll never dive with it, I find it cool that it can go down to 300 meters. What I love about it besides history, in your face presentation, is the fact that it’s basically a travel watch. GMT, easy time zone adjustment, date and power reserve. 3 day automatic. Love the leather strap with matching stitch color. Display back. A watch for me has to be functionally useful,
Great video! I love the PAM01314, love the white dial. I love the originality of Panerai, love the font on the dial, love all of it.
Great video and discussion. Love the history and design language of Panerai. Resonates on so many levels. Just bought myself a PAM 210. A brand that has more heritage and meaning than other watch concerns can dream of. Italian frogmen in wwii navigating murky waters with their Panerais to sink enemy battleships in their own port? Stuff of legends.
I buy Panerai now instead of Rolex or omega. It is different and much more a utility brand. Great history.
Thank you for making a modern pam video, been waiting for a solid one 👏🏼
Got the PAM1104 and I’m in love with it! Thanks for the video!
Love the dress watch,not planning on diving in the ocean or even swimming any time soon so the 30 mts water resistance doesn't matter to me.... lovely piece!!! would be interested to know what you thought of the zenith 6150 as ive always admired it and its recently been put on sale
One thing you didn’t mention about the PANERAI range is that some models come with an exhibition case-back. I have a preference for the 38mm DUE but they do not (or did not) exhibit the mechanism. The 42mm Luminor GMT does exhibit and that was enough to sway my purchase decision . . . and I quickly got used to the bulk
I’ve had my eye on the PAM-512 fir a while now. Might just pull the trigger on that one. Excellent video and great style of vid. Cheers
Love the videos, Would love an updated version of this video!
Hi Adrian - I’m a regular viewer of your channel from Hong Kong. Always appreciate your enthusiasm and thoughtful comments. My only suggestion would be a bit more diversification. I know you like to get watches “in hand” but that should not stop you from broadening your content as currently too much focus on Omega, Rolex and Tudor. Would be good to occasionally hear your thoughts on interesting pieces from the independents like Alain Silberstein, FP Journe etc…
Hi Jonty, thanks for watching. I’d love to cover some FPJ, but they are very hard to access, the same with most independents.
I wasn’t interested in Panerai for a long time because of the size of most models. But I tried on the gmt version and bought it. It gets a lot of wrist time, looks distinctive, and as you say, it wears comfortably.
Hey Adrian, I owned a PAM 0012 some years ago and flipped it. I loved the watch, but it was a bit bulky and didn't get much wrist time.
HOWEVER, The Panerai Due 42mm is definitely on my radar. Overall I agree that Panerai is an incredible watch at this price point and a rich heritage to boot!
I have the PAM00098 Radiomir Panerai Alarm, a very unique and amazing watch that has indeed an alarm, it was released like 15 years ago and it’s a limited edition watch. I love it so much!! Thanks for the video Adrian!
the daily watch of my dad is panerai for a long time now, so i grew up seeing this watch on his wrist and at some point in the future i definitely want to own one as an homage to my dad
Panerai is easily my favorite mechanical watch brand in my journey so far. I love the heritage, the distinctive design, and the superior quality. I actually dig that a lot of people prefer the same tired / safe watches over them - makes it even more fun to be a Panerista :)
I bought a PAM610 recently and I LOVE it. The simplicity, elegance and inner "grit" make it a thing of beauty. Super happy to have this and my trusty Omega Speedmaster as my interchangeable couple. The right Panerai for you is a wonderful thing, but do choose carefully.
Great video, I have the previous 44mm version of that Luminor (1312) and love it, such a great knock around. Initially wanted the 42mm but just something about Panerai that feels better a little bigger.
Love my PAM 1312.
The beauty behind Panerai is that you can find something that ticks all your boxes.
I wanted 44mm, sandwich dial, in-house movement and display case back.
The 1312 had all that for me.
Bought mine through DavidSW. Great watch.
I would buy one, originality is a key in having different watches
Well I bought 2. a PAM 390 and PAM 111. @barkandjack, we need 24mm NATOs :)
Good commentary and I think your end statement summed it up Adrian, they have a unique and beautiful design and are just cool watches. I love my PAM723 with rare bracelet and on straps. One of the most fun watches to change wear with different strap designs.
LOVED the video! And your take on the 38mm
I’m a fan of Panerai, my wife has one of the early Dues at 38mm and she adores it. I’m concerned about this recent movement issue of using ETA and doing the “in-house” story….. and it confirms my personal feelings about the management team. I would look at the older Panerai pieces 372, 422, even a 560 than some of the PAMs.
Would be interested in your comments Adrian about this movement story that’s recently serviced
For my 44 birthday i needed a 44mm watch… 😇 so i bought the PAM01351.
I love Panerai very much!
I turn 44 next week, I agree!
Panerai Luminor was my first luxury watch and have fallen in love with the brand ever since. They are also built so incredibly well. I've been wearing my luminor daylight on the daily and haven't had it serviced once in over 12 years! Taking it in for an overall service this month. Definitely looking to getting another one since the service will take over 25 weeks!
Adrian, your are great! Like your charisma and style. Videos well done, smart, useful and right to the point. Loved Panerai looks for a long time (the base Luminor model only- 44mm for my wrist). The rest look awful to my eye. I will always miss the sweeping second hand - which is a must for almost any wrist watch - without it ... a watch looks “dead”. Panerai is not for everybody... you either love it or hate it. I made my own for a couple hundred dollars - very happy with the results - utility watch - Panerai look... custom affordable product... Please, keep producing your videos - you’ve got the looks, you’ve got the smarts - you will have a great success!!! Thank you.
I love my two Panerai in my collection. They are amazing, keep great time, are insanely comfortable to wear and just feel right. It’s a shame that sometimes they seem to have “issues” with the term in-house for absolutely no reason. Sigh… one of mine has a Unitas movement and the other the P.9000 (in-house, really really, 109% confirmed)
Humble suggestion: along with all the dimensions, include the weight. Adds to the wearability assessment.
Love the Panerai Luminor 44m. Always wanted one . Definitely getting it soon !!!
Congratulations on the 150K Subscribers Adrian!
As a diver I could not use any of these watches due to the lack of minute markers on the bezel and dial. Accuracy is key when diving. I know alot of people will say " what about dive computers?" And I would agree but I use my watch in combination with my computer to corroborate the accuracy of my dives. I know not everyone will agree. It's just personal to me and my dive buddies 🙂
I agree. But I must say, after many years as a working Dave master, it was pretty rare to see anybody ever wear a watch.
@@donjuan7229 Funnily enough I'm a sport diver but get wet regularly however my back up to my dive computer is an 18 year old SKX as I'd hate to snag a good watch....
How many people will actually go diving wearing a €7500 watch? 0.1% at the very most, so who cares about it not being the best usable diver? As long as you can swim with it, or jump into the water from a yacht, it will be perfectly suitable.
Just wear a G-shock
I wold love to buy a Luminor to add to the collection. As you say the overall package is genuine;y very good. They are not a watch to buy and sit on to watch the value go up, you’ll lose your ass doing that, buy, wear, enjoy a fun, well made timepiece!
Great informative video, especially as I knew very little about Panerai. Very interesting. (How about a nice picture or murel on the your door! We see blank grey behind you).
Another great video. Love the look of the Panesar. Such a great heritage and probably underrated/undervalued. Not sure I’d buy one though which is odd given how much I like the look and their value.
When a watch is neither one thing nor the other it's often polarizing - a bit like the dressy bi color Rolex explorer.
Nope that ,untill a solid gold comes, is so impractical that it’s cool.
I ditched most of my watches (actually passed them on to my son) including my omega seamaster for this Panerai luminor marina which is now my everyday watch. It's fantastic.
Totally agree with this video. My first luxury watch was a Panerai. I have moved to Rolex and only occasionally put on my Panerai, but when ever I do I get way more compliments and great conversations. I do no not mind that they are not as hot as they were in the early 2000’s.
Thanks Adrian for a very thorough discussion of Panerai watches including it’s history. Perhaps it is the best video of any full watch brand I have seen. I bought a Luminor Marina OP logo model several years ago shortly after Sylvester Stallone introduced it to the US market. I think what draws me to it is it’s simplicity and it’s recognizability. It’s easy to spot another Pan wearer with only a glimpse of a portion of the watch.
If that was a pre-Vendome then it's worth a lot now.
Never a huge fan of Panerai, but I must say that they have grown on me a lot over the last couple of years. They are truly unique in a time when there is a lot of parody between the popular watch models, and new releases are really just slight revisions to the same thing.
Absolutely love them, can’t afford one just yet, but one day, you can tell a Panarai as it’s different, love it. Thanks Adrian
I’ve never really been a huge fan of Panerai, but that Luminor Piccolo Due is beautiful 😍 Great point regarding their unmistakable design too 💡👌🏾 Awesome video, thanks!! 😊😉
A couple years ago I decided to add a Panerai to my collection. 8 bought a carbotec pam 00979 diver . Great watch and I'm glad to have it . I don't wear it often as it's a purpose built, large diver . I have 7.75" wrists and still it's a rather large watch . I have dove with it though, and it's certainly a robust peice. It has the in-house 9010 movement and has always run accurately and is reliable. All i all , a unique design.
Panerai is most definitely making a comeback - I just purchased my first PAM and it truly is one of a kind. Great vid.
They've had more comebacks than a boomerang.
I’ve always like the shape of a Panerai. Distinctive and instantly recognisable. I’d buy on in a heart beat. The sub looks epic to me, however in reality a Luminor will more than likely be what I get. One day, you’ll be mine….
Get one you won't regret it.
I had a Luminor when the brand was hot, it was a great watch. I’ve always wanted a Submersible and I will probably buy one in the near future. Solid video. Thank you.
Thanks for the summary. Well done, one my wish watch.
I have always love Panerais but if you have too many in your collection, you will find that they all looked almost the same in my opinion. Right now, I only keep a Radiomir, a Luminor 1950 and a Submersible 47 in my collection. Very reliable never had any issues with them. They get more wrist time than my Rolex and Omega. Appreciate your opinion about Panerais. Great review! Thanks
Same here, one Radiomir, one Luminor Marina 1950 titanio
Hopefully my next time piece.
Love the video, I own Panerai and other brands, what I love is the character and history. I will buy any of the new color dials soon.
If i were a buyer in this watch tier price range i would be all over the Submersible. Besides the obvious, it’s very unique with the inlay bezel buttons at 12, 3, 6, and 9. And the small seconds is very cool too.
I fell in love with and bought a Lum Tec M68 before i knew it was a quazi Panerai homage.
Great channel, Adrian. Keep up the great work.
My Radiomir 425 is the best made watch I’ve ever owned, including Seamasters and Submariners. Buy pre-owned, let someone else soak up the initial depreciation and they are good value.
Yes and make sure it's not one of the many fakes
I don't think they're well made - the crown guard fell off my 560 !
I just bought my first Panerai last month, a Radiomir Pam 183. I always hated Panerai because of the cheap movement, easily fake & high price. But once i tried a 45mm Radiomir on my wrist everything changes 🤩🇮🇹. For a 2009 watch it still hold its value 👍
I own a PAM01312 and sometimes all I can do is flip that lock on the crown. It’s so satisfying. An incredible design feature
Hi Adrian,
I would love to see you doing a video with the Explorer and affordable alternatives, maybe including a Sinn 556I!
The Luminor Due line absolutely nails it. That and the Radiomir are the ones for me. Elegant but still bold. Do not like the gigantic luminors and submersibles. The anthracite dial luminor due is gorgeous. Same way the new Premier line makes me like Breitling.
I've owned nearly 100 watches and Panerai definitely holds a special place in my heart. They're very original and have a certain charm to them on top of being very robust. Cheers
Excellent Video… I just à Panerai PAM 914 i love everything about it, the case size, the dial, the crown guard, insanely a beautiful watch, never put back on my wrist a Rolex, Cartier or omega which I do own… love the Panerai brand totally different look ….
I have a 196 and a 188 basically the same watch, 1 black dial and 1 white. They were always grail watches. They are big, but they wear well, and they are built like tanks. Great perspective Adrian!
"Spending all day flicking this thing back and forth" 😂
🤣 I hadn’t noticed that.
Panerai *did* have a spell of being the "in" watch - back in 2005 I couldn't get any discount on my Pam 005, unlike my Rolex Sub, which I got 5% off without even asking. How things have changed 😂
Haha. That sounds crazy. I doubt it, but I hope one day it returns to that. 👍🏻
@@BarkandJack The biggest laugh is, I sold the Sub after about 6 months *at a loss*, because I just didn’t get on with it.
Still have the Panerai though.
Panerista here. PAM351 was the 2nd “nice” watch I added years ago to the collection and still have it-It will likely never leave. Best thing about the luminor marina line is that you can buy a new strap and practically feel like you got a new watch. Easily changing straps is the best part of owning a Panerai. I’ve taken mine on lots of vacations, snorkeling, hiking, snowboarding, etc. rugged enough for daily use but change the strap and you can rock it with a nice suit too. I also love the sandwich dial- best looking lume on a dial by far and very legible. These watches are not about precision, hence the lack of minute hash marks. Instead they’re all about style, comfort, legibility and versatility. The older models like mine are also slightly more desired because they don’t have the stupid “automatic” text at 6 o’clock on the dial, ruining the symmetric look. Some prefer the slightly thicker case of the older models too. I’ve tried on the newer/slimmer versions and am glad I have the old case design. But to each their own.
Hi Adrian,
I’ve been using the PAM048 since last 4 years.
Its very different compared to what Rolex,Omega and the brands offer.
It stands out.
I like it and people often ask me what a Panerai feels like on the wrist.
I love my PAM 673. Panerai's military dive watch history and connection to Rolex is unique. I don't understand why they don't make the Due 100M water resistant.
That would be the an awesome panerai with a huge appeal.
Really like the Pam. Just can’t make the jump to buy.
I’ve enjoyed each Panerai in my collection including a 959 Submersible and a 574 Radiomir. A 42mm Luminor with sandwich dial is on my list.
Yes, I would buy one, especially a base model. I also love the sandwich dual. Thanks for the video.
Looking forward to this.
I'm not sure if they make their own in houses at all, or at the very least I know there are few models that claim in house but clearly use ETA. Maybe they replace 80% of the parts? I don't know. A submersible looks good at ~5k.
I’m a Panerai fan but tbh they should got sued because they charged more for the so called in-house movement…
The P900 movement isn't what I'd call in house. I've read its based on a ValFluerier ebauche. A lot of money considering. Its still a nice watch but £5500?? People say a Rolex Oyster Perpetual 41mm is expensive. At least it is in-house and you get a steel bracelet, oh and its £800 cheaper.
I just got one! Picked up the Laminar with 8 day power reserve. I LOVE IT!!! Will prolly get a Radiomir also.
100% Love Panerai unique look and break away from the flock of sheep looking at Rolex and potentially never going to get one.
Love Rolex but that wait list is grinding me down and won't pay a premium as don't support the flippers charging crazy prices.
I just want a steak now 🤤
Haha, me too!
Bistecca alla Fiorentina! Ristorante Frescobaldi in Florence is a great place, though you won't want to eat anything for a few days afterwards, even if your share it!
My first luxury watch was a Panerai PAM 312 which I bought 8 years ago. I loved the aesthetic of the watch then and still love it today.
Hi Adrian, thanks for looking on the legendary Panerai. But .... a Panerai begins in my holy opinion at 44 mm and must be big. There are some awesome watches in the "normal" size, look at them. After a lot of other watches I bought, AP, Vacheron, Rolex, Omega etc. 2 months ago, I bought a Luminor PAM 00372 47 mm for me and a Luminor Base 44mm 8 Days PAM00914 8 Days for my wife. The watches are fantastic, and I love them so much, that they get a lot of wrist time. My wife loved her Date Just like nothing else, but since she has her Luminor ..... Best regards Edgar
I've always loved the look of the submersible and always will.