Great video! Love the comparison. The only thing that you missed was that if you press the sound button when all pieces are disconnected it makes the labored breathing sound when Darth Vader is weakened from being electrocuted by the emperor. Try it out!
A lot of inaccuracies but is pretty cool once you have one of your own. The front part of the dome is definitely off and the face is wide. This is probably due to the electronic part of it all. I put off buying one for a long time but recently came across one for cheap on eBay and pulled the trigger. I’m not disappointed but like I said, there are a few inaccuracies.
i just found your chanel, i love your in deep comparations, i can tell you really love that stuff, i also have a art/prop chanel with that vibe hehe, keep your videos coming!
Whichever one closely resembles Vader's helmet from "Empire" is the best one because "The Empire Strikes Back" is the BEST "Star Wars" movie and one of the GREATEST films of all time. Easily my favorite John Williams film score.
hi enjoyed the vid great collection there bud. im just spraying the rubies helmit now ive got new lenses and re sculpted the nose and got decent automobile black gloss hope it comes out ok my first custom vader so fingers crossed means alot to me. just got a complete tie pilot outfit cost me a grand but gonna do some trooping. stay safe buddy
I use the black series myself, but again I just role that it's a variation of his armor. Granted only 300 up will get u a better wow version. BUT It's a great place to learn, comfortable, and learning to modify it will teach you a lot about maybe making it from scratch. I've replaced my lenses with red hexagon lenses, the grill with a dual layer (small and large layer). I am only 6 ft 2 so in a way the black series is like the right scale, david has a long long neck XD... Normal dude not so much. Next steps will be dual layer paint the mask, leangthen the neck (easier than you think) and build and thicken the helmet of course all before the repaint. I appreciate that even though u got 501rst level stuff, u dnt knock the normal guy for loving this. I love screen accuracy too, but I'm a sort of DIY sort and I considered this a great helmet to practice/learn on. Besides later on I'll just use the whole old setup as dummy and use my 501rst level of course. There are also replacement tusks. OR theirs a type of metallic foil that forms to things amazingly u can use to wrap the tusks. Any ways sorry for the ramble, aspiring 501rster hope to hear from you! If you check my channel I do a vader impersonation with no pitch adjustments.
Hey there! Thank you for the comment and compliments! Looks like you have a lot of mods in the future for the Hasbro helmet. They are great helmets to build up from. I appreciate all costumes and cosplays. It's all about having fun!! I have had things in my collection made from paper mache, cardboard, EVA foam, etc., and I've loved them all. Costumes can get very pricey, and creativity can go a long way. I was looking over your channel, and I have to say, your Vader impressions are outstanding!! I think that I saw all of your Vader vids. Great job brother! Keep it up! Thanks again for your comment. I haven't had much time lately, but hopefully I'll put up some more videos soon. Take care!
Great video! Very in-depth comparison, with lots of attention to detail. Do you plan to make an updated comparison with the new Obi-Wan Kenobi version of the Black Series helmet? By the way, how did you modify your voice at the beginning of the video? It sounded really good!
Thank you for the compliments; I appreciate it! I saw that Hasbro is going to release another Vader helmet early next year apparently based on the Obi Wan series. They say that it will have a new sculpt, however looking at the stock photos, I don't really see that much of a difference. I will more than likely pick one up though haha. If there are significant differences, then I will likely make a video on it. At the beginning of the video, I use a compact voice amplifier. They are designed for public speaking. It's up to you to modify your voice. With enough practice, you can sound like a Stormtrooper, Boba Fett, Vader, etc. Here's a link. Check out the different amplifiers, and pick the best one that suits you: www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-Amplifier-Microphone-Waistband-Presentation/dp/B06XWV9CCQ/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=headset+with+speaker&qid=1619373579&sr=8-5 Stay cool fellow GEEK!!
@@firespraypilotcosplayandpr4195 Awesome, thanks for the reply and info! You're about the only CZcamsr I've ever seen replying to comments on a year-old video, haha. Definitely subscribing for more great content like this!
Great video I got my black series Vader helmet for $23.77 because it was on sale at my LCS and I had years of coupons with them hahahahah. I may buy another one so I can have one to wear and one to keep in box like I did the Kylo Ren black series helmet. And I like that your videos are raw it's a nice counter to the over produced and edited stuff I keep seeing
I like the detail in the Hasbro helmet but it looks way smaller than the other two. Maybe a hybrid between the Hasbro one and the movie correct Vader helmet would be my ultimate.
From certain angles it actually looks pretty good, but from the front, there's just something not quite right about it, probably because as you say, the face is too wide. Definitely not one of the Black Series best helmets.
The hasbro version face is too wide, Eyes a lot bigger, or the helmet a bit smaller... I prefer the deluxe version or the cheaper Ruby version. It's more movie accurates
@@gray-fox6789 Apparently, Hasbro are releasing a Vader helmet from the “Obi Wan Kenobi” series later this year/early next year. I wonder if it will be this in new packaging, or a completely new sculpt. If it is the latter, hopefully it will be a lot more accurate. With the exception of Vader, they’ve produced really good replicas over the last few years, especially with the First Order stormtrooper and The Mandalorian.
Hey there...I apologize for the delayed response. I was given a Star Wars watch as a gift, and that was the case that it came in. I have been looking on ebay for you, but I haven't been able to find anything like it. I'll let you know if I come across one.
Thanks for the comparison video, the only problem is unless I missed it you did not describe the brand or manufacture of the helmet on your right , or our left . You mention the rubies and obviously the black series , but what is the other one ?
Hey there, Scott...Thanks for the question. At the time that I made the video, I suspected the maker of the helmet to my right, however the owner of the helmet could not confirm. Therefore, I omitted that from the video. It was not until after that I delivered the restored helmet to the owner that he was able to confirm that it was in fact a Portumac helmet. You can find him on Facebook, but I do not know if he is still producing helmet kits. Take care!
Hi guys. The one on the left side of picture looks very similar to the Episode III Master Replica that I own. Even the paint job. I guess it's based on that one.
The person that uses the left helmet as part of his costume has a full ANH set up. However, after I restored and repainted the helmet, it does look more like the ROTS version. Technically, the ANH helmet has a duller look with hints of gray. I do not know if Portumac is still producing helmet kits. Try to contact him via Facebook. Let me know if you have any further questions.
Yes, two separate Vader helmets were released. To my understanding, Hasbro lengthened the neck a bit on the Obi Wan version. They also gave it a more accurate two-tone paint job with black and gun metal. Other than that, they appear to be the same. I may eventually pick one up in the future since it is slightly more accurate than the original Vader helmet that was released.
That helmet is made by Portumac over on Facebook. It belongs to a friend. I helped him with restoring it. I have a video up on that process if you'd like to check it out 👍
I would be curious about that as well. Anovos generally does a good job with its products since they are usually able to get a hold of actual screen used props or are able to scan them. If I ever get my hands on an Anovos, I will make a short comparison video with these. Thanks
Hi there...The exact voice changer that I have is no longer available, However, here is a link to one that is very similar to the one that I have. There are also wireless speakers out there if you choose to go that route. Enjoy that helmet! www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-Amplifier-Microphone-Waistband-Presentation/dp/B06XWV9CCQ/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=headset+with+speaker&qid=1619373579&sr=8-5
I love this helmet, and I'm glad I have it, but I will say it has it's flaws. The face is way too big, something about it just looks off because of that The neck is a bit too short
All three of those helmets look…off. The one on the far left, it’s top piece is way too big for the mask. The black series one the mask looks too big. The one on the right looks like it was bought at a Halloween store, but interestingly it looks the most “accurate” to me. But what do I know? Glad you like it though.
No. I thought that as well. The one on far right (Rubie Supreme) looks screen accurate to A New Hope to me. And a lot of the publicity stills from '77. I have the Black Series one and it's a good helmet but I just wish it had an extended neck. My Don Post helmet has the extended neck and looks '77 accurate but it's a smaller helmet again. Seems to me that none of the corporations that have produce these have permission to go all the way....
Yes, I agree, the one on the left is definitely taller and more slender. I'm thinking that is where your tree reference came from. What do you mean by black issue? Or was that an auto correct typo or something?
I am somewhat in agreeance with you there. I have talked about this briefly in some of my videos. However, I have less of a problem with the appearance of a particular Star Wars helmet or prop, and more of an issue with any real-world application. Seems like there wasn't really much thought put into applicability. By design, most of the helmets have very little to no visibility to start with. I know that most of the designs are generally for aesthetic reasons, and are made for that coolness factor. I love some of the looks, and others I do not. But application of equipment needs to be taken into account when writing a great story line. The MK50 Environmental Suits from Alien for example. That was a very well thought out, applicable design that a space trucker from the future would don and wear on a barren planet. Apparently, you can even breath on every single planet in Star Wars without life support gear. Who knows...maybe someday if I have time, I'll get some gear together with a quick script and do some comparisons of sci-fi VS real-world gear. Thanks for the comment bud!
I can't argue with you there. They could've done a better job on this one like some of their other helmets. I just picked up the EFX helmet, and that one has lineage to the 1977 helmet. Reasonably priced as well.
It's definitely far from perfect, but I think that it still makes a pretty cool display piece for your average collector. I don't think that the issue is rights since they needed to get permission to create a commercially available product. I think that it's more about budgeting. They wanted to create a mass produced 3 tier electronic helmet. The original Vader buckets were huge, so they probably opted to scale them down. With a smaller wearable helmet, they would have to make it wider in the face to compensate for the shorter top. However you're right, they could've researched a bit more, and made a much more accurate helmet. I just picked up the newly released Vader helmet by EFX. A great helmet for the price point, and it has direct lineage to the ANH helmet.
I completely agree with you on the dark gunmetal color on the face of the original trilogy helmets. This was done on purpose by the movie producers at the time due to the fact that the all black was posing lighting issues. However, the final look on camera appears as mostly black. It was not until the original screen used helmet photos were released that fans truly noticed the two-tone paint of the mask and the red lenses on the ANH helmet. As a result, all marketing for Vader products was all black. A similar production decision was also made for the AT-AT Driver helmet and armor. Although it appears to be white in the movie, it was actually light gray in color to contrast against the background. Again, for years fans and marketing made the AT-AT armor white in color until the screen used prop photos were released. The Vader helmet and armor has undergone numerous changes with color and greeblies throughout the films, and the ROTS helmet is in fact all black. The Kenobi helmet appears all black as well. Therefore, I guess it would really depend on what version a person is going for or how screen accurate you want to go. I have painted Vader helmets one-tone, two-tone, pearl, bronze, chrome, etc. In this case, the customer wanted an all black helmet. Ultimately, it's all about having fun while dressing up as plastic space men. Take care brother!
@@firespraypilotcosplayandpr4195 I'm aware of all of this, but thanks for the breakdown. It does bring up an interesting question: When is something nerd 'cannon' and when is something just "stage magic"? lol The history of the costume sure is fascinating. One thing though; You mentioned "the Kenobi helmet" - if you mean the current show, take a close look. It's two tone after all and actually quite apparent in many shots. The only thing missing is the pointy brow and somebody big enough to actually fill the suit. What blows me away is how totally apparent the two tone is even in the og trilogy. It was just hard to notice since the best we all had back in the day was a shitty VHS copy likely from a not-so-clean film print.
@@swanofnutella4734 LOL...Yeah man, we both know way too much about this nerdy stuff! This hobby is my escape from reality though. Yeah, I had some time to look closer at the Kenobi helmet, and it definitely looks two-tone in many shots (by the way, the last episode was sick!). And I still have my VHS trilogy somewhere in storage lmao. Take care brother!
@@firespraypilotcosplayandpr4195 I don't have the tapes, but I still have the nice box my early 90s widescreen tapes came in stored away somewhere. Speaking of nerdy, I think they're holding old AD&D papers. Hey I'll share one more thing: 1979ish. Living in a small town. Burger King has a Star Wars promotion and gets somebody to wear a decent Vader costume and wave at people outside on the street. Little kid me in the car with my parents: "It's happening. The Empire has found Earth and we're all screwed." I didn't cry, or warn my parents, I just sat in the car, in morbid acceptance of the doomed fate of all of Earth. ...cheers brother o/
The Vader black series helmet is a bad, expensive, inaccurate and ugly toy. The Altaya miniature helmet, and even the papercraft models are more accurate than this thing XD
2018 Hasbro Black Series. Best overall. Would of loved that one as kid.
Great video! Love the comparison. The only thing that you missed was that if you press the sound button when all pieces are disconnected it makes the labored breathing sound when Darth Vader is weakened from being electrocuted by the emperor. Try it out!
Really?? I didn't even know that! I'll be checking that out for sure. Thanks for the compliment and info! 👍
Viewers: man youtube recommendations are boring lately--
Kenobi Clips: *Hello There!*
I appreciate the time you put into this channel.
Thank you much! 👍👍
A lot of inaccuracies but is pretty cool once you have one of your own. The front part of the dome is definitely off and the face is wide. This is probably due to the electronic part of it all. I put off buying one for a long time but recently came across one for cheap on eBay and pulled the trigger. I’m not disappointed but like I said, there are a few inaccuracies.
i just found your chanel, i love your in deep comparations, i can tell you really love that stuff, i also have a art/prop chanel with that vibe hehe, keep your videos coming!
Thank you very much! Appreciate it 🙏
Whichever one closely resembles Vader's helmet from "Empire" is the best one because "The Empire Strikes Back" is the BEST "Star Wars" movie and one of the GREATEST films of all time. Easily my favorite John Williams film score.
I can't argue with you there. Empire is easily my all time favorite Star Wars movie as well👍
hi enjoyed the vid great collection there bud. im just spraying the rubies helmit now ive got new lenses and re sculpted the nose and got decent automobile black gloss hope it comes out ok my first custom vader so fingers crossed means alot to me. just got a complete tie pilot outfit cost me a grand but gonna do some trooping. stay safe buddy
I use the black series myself, but again I just role that it's a variation of his armor. Granted only 300 up will get u a better wow version. BUT It's a great place to learn, comfortable, and learning to modify it will teach you a lot about maybe making it from scratch.
I've replaced my lenses with red hexagon lenses, the grill with a dual layer (small and large layer). I am only 6 ft 2 so in a way the black series is like the right scale, david has a long long neck XD... Normal dude not so much.
Next steps will be dual layer paint the mask, leangthen the neck (easier than you think) and build and thicken the helmet of course all before the repaint. I appreciate that even though u got 501rst level stuff, u dnt knock the normal guy for loving this.
I love screen accuracy too, but I'm a sort of DIY sort and I considered this a great helmet to practice/learn on. Besides later on I'll just use the whole old setup as dummy and use my 501rst level of course. There are also replacement tusks. OR theirs a type of metallic foil that forms to things amazingly u can use to wrap the tusks.
Any ways sorry for the ramble, aspiring 501rster hope to hear from you! If you check my channel I do a vader impersonation with no pitch adjustments.
Hey there! Thank you for the comment and compliments! Looks like you have a lot of mods in the future for the Hasbro helmet. They are great helmets to build up from. I appreciate all costumes and cosplays. It's all about having fun!! I have had things in my collection made from paper mache, cardboard, EVA foam, etc., and I've loved them all. Costumes can get very pricey, and creativity can go a long way.
I was looking over your channel, and I have to say, your Vader impressions are outstanding!! I think that I saw all of your Vader vids. Great job brother! Keep it up! Thanks again for your comment. I haven't had much time lately, but hopefully I'll put up some more videos soon. Take care!
Great video! Very in-depth comparison, with lots of attention to detail.
Do you plan to make an updated comparison with the new Obi-Wan Kenobi version of the Black Series helmet?
By the way, how did you modify your voice at the beginning of the video? It sounded really good!
Thank you for the compliments; I appreciate it!
I saw that Hasbro is going to release another Vader helmet early next year apparently based on the Obi Wan series. They say that it will have a new sculpt, however looking at the stock photos, I don't really see that much of a difference. I will more than likely pick one up though haha. If there are significant differences, then I will likely make a video on it.
At the beginning of the video, I use a compact voice amplifier. They are designed for public speaking. It's up to you to modify your voice. With enough practice, you can sound like a Stormtrooper, Boba Fett, Vader, etc. Here's a link. Check out the different amplifiers, and pick the best one that suits you:
www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-Amplifier-Microphone-Waistband-Presentation/dp/B06XWV9CCQ/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=headset+with+speaker&qid=1619373579&sr=8-5
Stay cool fellow GEEK!!
@@firespraypilotcosplayandpr4195 Awesome, thanks for the reply and info!
You're about the only CZcamsr I've ever seen replying to comments on a year-old video, haha.
Definitely subscribing for more great content like this!
@@wolfybuilder Thank you much!! 👍
Great video I got my black series Vader helmet for $23.77 because it was on sale at my LCS and I had years of coupons with them hahahahah. I may buy another one so I can have one to wear and one to keep in box like I did the Kylo Ren black series helmet. And I like that your videos are raw it's a nice counter to the over produced and edited stuff I keep seeing
Wow...That's a great price for a Vader helmet! Thank you for the compliments and support! 🙏
I like the detail in the Hasbro helmet but it looks way smaller than the other two. Maybe a hybrid between the Hasbro one and the movie correct Vader helmet would be my ultimate.
Awesome video bud! Yes Vader’s helmet removal is my all time favourite part of the entire Star Wars creation. Fellow geek 🤓
Can' wait for the obi wan show version. And of course black series vader/obi wan saber, figures, and slideshow collectiable focusing on the rematch.
From certain angles it actually looks pretty good, but from the front, there's just something not quite right about it, probably because as you say, the face is too wide. Definitely not one of the Black Series best helmets.
The hasbro version face is too wide, Eyes a lot bigger, or the helmet a bit smaller... I prefer the deluxe version or the cheaper Ruby version. It's more movie accurates
@@gray-fox6789 Apparently, Hasbro are releasing a Vader helmet from the “Obi Wan Kenobi” series later this year/early next year. I wonder if it will be this in new packaging, or a completely new sculpt. If it is the latter, hopefully it will be a lot more accurate. With the exception of Vader, they’ve produced really good replicas over the last few years, especially with the First Order stormtrooper and The Mandalorian.
It lacks a long neck like the newer helmet by them, it also lacks the silver paint like the real one, as well as the a symmetry like the real thing
I’ve got an EFX New Hope Vader helmet and it’s fantastic. If you can get your hands on one you won’t regret it!
Sell it to me lol
I love the mini version! Where can i find it?
Hey there...I apologize for the delayed response. I was given a Star Wars watch as a gift, and that was the case that it came in. I have been looking on ebay for you, but I haven't been able to find anything like it. I'll let you know if I come across one.
What are the other two helmets in this video. I’m thinking about purchasing one of them
Hello...The one on the left is a cast by Portumac, and the one on the right is a Rubies Supreme.
Thanks for the comparison video, the only problem is unless I missed it you did not describe the brand or manufacture of the helmet on your right , or our left . You mention the rubies and obviously the black series , but what is the other one ?
Hey there, Scott...Thanks for the question. At the time that I made the video, I suspected the maker of the helmet to my right, however the owner of the helmet could not confirm. Therefore, I omitted that from the video. It was not until after that I delivered the restored helmet to the owner that he was able to confirm that it was in fact a Portumac helmet. You can find him on Facebook, but I do not know if he is still producing helmet kits. Take care!
Hi guys. The one on the left side of picture looks very similar to the Episode III Master Replica that I own. Even the paint job. I guess it's based on that one.
@@pomponazzoable I think it’s a Revenge of the Sith helmet with its extra wide, different shaped helmet
U plan on doing a custom of the mattel grogu?
No, not for now. Trying to finish up my Mando and a couple of others things. Not enough hours in a day...
witch brands are those? I recognize the Black series but the other ones? rubies?
The helmet on the left of the screen as you're watching the video is by Portumac, and the one on the right is a Rubies Supreme.
Is the left one a ROTS Vader helmet? Does this Potumac still sell it?
The person that uses the left helmet as part of his costume has a full ANH set up. However, after I restored and repainted the helmet, it does look more like the ROTS version. Technically, the ANH helmet has a duller look with hints of gray. I do not know if Portumac is still producing helmet kits. Try to contact him via Facebook. Let me know if you have any further questions.
Is there a DV black series helmet and a DV black series Ben Kenobi helmet that was released later. If so, what's the difference?
Yes, two separate Vader helmets were released. To my understanding, Hasbro lengthened the neck a bit on the Obi Wan version. They also gave it a more accurate two-tone paint job with black and gun metal. Other than that, they appear to be the same. I may eventually pick one up in the future since it is slightly more accurate than the original Vader helmet that was released.
You forgot to say that it has the damaged/dying breathing sound when you take it apart
Yes! You're absolutely right. I didn't even know that it did that until someone else commented on it as well. Very cool feature! Thanks 👍
okay we get it OKAY!! okay
Where did you get the helmet on the left?
That helmet is made by Portumac over on Facebook. It belongs to a friend. I helped him with restoring it. I have a video up on that process if you'd like to check it out 👍
What helmet version is the one on the left?
That helmet was cast by Potumac on FB and painted by me.
What helmet is the one on the far left?
That is a kit by Portumac on FB. Not sure if he is producing those any longer.
Dang that’s a nice porch
Thank you!
I wonder how the Anovos helmet would compare to these.
I would be curious about that as well. Anovos generally does a good job with its products since they are usually able to get a hold of actual screen used props or are able to scan them. If I ever get my hands on an Anovos, I will make a short comparison video with these. Thanks
@@firespraypilotcosplayandpr4195 Anovos has gone bankrupt and still have screwed people out of money
they are mate not cheap
Hello :) What kind of voice changer do you reccomend fot this BS helmet ? P.S I have this helmet and its great :)
Hi there...The exact voice changer that I have is no longer available, However, here is a link to one that is very similar to the one that I have. There are also wireless speakers out there if you choose to go that route. Enjoy that helmet!
www.amazon.com/Rechargeable-Amplifier-Microphone-Waistband-Presentation/dp/B06XWV9CCQ/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=headset+with+speaker&qid=1619373579&sr=8-5
I love this helmet, and I'm glad I have it, but I will say it has it's flaws.
The face is way too big, something about it just looks off because of that
The neck is a bit too short
Yes, it's definitely short and wide as you say, but I love it as well.
1) does not look like the original helmet
2) the breathing noise lasts only a few seconds and stops by itself
3) no metal parts
Yeah I just bought this helmet.
😱
All three of those helmets look…off. The one on the far left, it’s top piece is way too big for the mask. The black series one the mask looks too big. The one on the right looks like it was bought at a Halloween store, but interestingly it looks the most “accurate” to me. But what do I know? Glad you like it though.
No. I thought that as well. The one on far right (Rubie Supreme) looks screen accurate to A New Hope to me. And a lot of the publicity stills from '77. I have the Black Series one and it's a good helmet but I just wish it had an extended neck. My Don Post helmet has the extended neck and looks '77 accurate but it's a smaller helmet again. Seems to me that none of the corporations that have produce these have permission to go all the way....
Just bought the middle one, black issue, must be some legal thing to stop a propper copy, the one on the left looks like it wa carved out of a tree
Yes, I agree, the one on the left is definitely taller and more slender. I'm thinking that is where your tree reference came from. What do you mean by black issue? Or was that an auto correct typo or something?
Was just jokin mate. Its just the difference. Always thought there was some legal thing to stop a proper copy@@firespraypilotcosplayandpr4195
When I first saw Star Wars the first thing I tought when I saw Vader was that helmet looks really stupid and I still think it does
I am somewhat in agreeance with you there. I have talked about this briefly in some of my videos. However, I have less of a problem with the appearance of a particular Star Wars helmet or prop, and more of an issue with any real-world application. Seems like there wasn't really much thought put into applicability. By design, most of the helmets have very little to no visibility to start with. I know that most of the designs are generally for aesthetic reasons, and are made for that coolness factor. I love some of the looks, and others I do not. But application of equipment needs to be taken into account when writing a great story line. The MK50 Environmental Suits from Alien for example. That was a very well thought out, applicable design that a space trucker from the future would don and wear on a barren planet. Apparently, you can even breath on every single planet in Star Wars without life support gear. Who knows...maybe someday if I have time, I'll get some gear together with a quick script and do some comparisons of sci-fi VS real-world gear. Thanks for the comment bud!
I just can't get into the Black Series Vader...it looks really off from pretty much every angle.
I can't argue with you there. They could've done a better job on this one like some of their other helmets. I just picked up the EFX helmet, and that one has lineage to the 1977 helmet. Reasonably priced as well.
I don't understand how they drop the ball on this mask there's so many images out there ...maybe it's rights ?
It's definitely far from perfect, but I think that it still makes a pretty cool display piece for your average collector. I don't think that the issue is rights since they needed to get permission to create a commercially available product. I think that it's more about budgeting. They wanted to create a mass produced 3 tier electronic helmet. The original Vader buckets were huge, so they probably opted to scale them down. With a smaller wearable helmet, they would have to make it wider in the face to compensate for the shorter top. However you're right, they could've researched a bit more, and made a much more accurate helmet. I just picked up the newly released Vader helmet by EFX. A great helmet for the price point, and it has direct lineage to the ANH helmet.
Colors are wrong on all three.
Most famous mask in the world, and almost nobody knows that there is a silver harlequin pattern ALL OVER the face.
I completely agree with you on the dark gunmetal color on the face of the original trilogy helmets. This was done on purpose by the movie producers at the time due to the fact that the all black was posing lighting issues. However, the final look on camera appears as mostly black. It was not until the original screen used helmet photos were released that fans truly noticed the two-tone paint of the mask and the red lenses on the ANH helmet. As a result, all marketing for Vader products was all black. A similar production decision was also made for the AT-AT Driver helmet and armor. Although it appears to be white in the movie, it was actually light gray in color to contrast against the background. Again, for years fans and marketing made the AT-AT armor white in color until the screen used prop photos were released. The Vader helmet and armor has undergone numerous changes with color and greeblies throughout the films, and the ROTS helmet is in fact all black. The Kenobi helmet appears all black as well. Therefore, I guess it would really depend on what version a person is going for or how screen accurate you want to go. I have painted Vader helmets one-tone, two-tone, pearl, bronze, chrome, etc. In this case, the customer wanted an all black helmet. Ultimately, it's all about having fun while dressing up as plastic space men. Take care brother!
@@firespraypilotcosplayandpr4195 I'm aware of all of this, but thanks for the breakdown. It does bring up an interesting question: When is something nerd 'cannon' and when is something just "stage magic"? lol The history of the costume sure is fascinating. One thing though; You mentioned "the Kenobi helmet" - if you mean the current show, take a close look. It's two tone after all and actually quite apparent in many shots. The only thing missing is the pointy brow and somebody big enough to actually fill the suit. What blows me away is how totally apparent the two tone is even in the og trilogy. It was just hard to notice since the best we all had back in the day was a shitty VHS copy likely from a not-so-clean film print.
@@swanofnutella4734 LOL...Yeah man, we both know way too much about this nerdy stuff! This hobby is my escape from reality though. Yeah, I had some time to look closer at the Kenobi helmet, and it definitely looks two-tone in many shots (by the way, the last episode was sick!). And I still have my VHS trilogy somewhere in storage lmao. Take care brother!
@@firespraypilotcosplayandpr4195 I don't have the tapes, but I still have the nice box my early 90s widescreen tapes came in stored away somewhere. Speaking of nerdy, I think they're holding old AD&D papers. Hey I'll share one more thing: 1979ish. Living in a small town. Burger King has a Star Wars promotion and gets somebody to wear a decent Vader costume and wave at people outside on the street. Little kid me in the car with my parents: "It's happening. The Empire has found Earth and we're all screwed." I didn't cry, or warn my parents, I just sat in the car, in morbid acceptance of the doomed fate of all of Earth. ...cheers brother o/
@@swanofnutella4734 🤣🤣🤣 Great story bro!
The Vader black series helmet is a bad, expensive, inaccurate and ugly toy. The Altaya miniature helmet, and even the papercraft models are more accurate than this thing XD
That Black Series Vader helmet is awful. How Hasbro dropped the ball so badly on that one is beyond me...