The Night King's New Identity THEORY! - Game of Thrones Season 8 (End Game Theory)

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  • Welcome back for another Game of Thrones Season 8 End Game Theory video. In today's video I will be talking about the Night King's end game. I believe the Night King has a secret power that has been hiding right under our nose this whole time. I'm not sure if he will ever use this type of magic he possess, but I believe there is enough sufficient evidence to prove he can do this if he wanted to. This could be the third twist in Game of Thrones. Will the Night King ever be defeated, or will the Night King lose to Bran Stark and Jon Snow? Can the Night King only be replaced? What does the Night King want? What is the Night King's true identity? These are some of the big questions surrounding the Night King's story, but only a few will probably get answered in the final season of Game of Thrones. Let me know how you think it all ends. Leave your questions or comments down below. Thanks for watching!
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  • @martinhubinette2254
    @martinhubinette2254 Před 5 lety +568

    I personally think Jon's "you don't understand" line is more of a "one does not simply walk into Mordor kind of thing". I.e. I don't think killing him will be easy.

    • @seanmcguire7974
      @seanmcguire7974 Před 5 lety +23

      Yea meaning, it ain't that easy bruh.

    • @maverickassasin1514
      @maverickassasin1514 Před 5 lety +34

      @Ben LouisThe WW was going to slash open Jon if Jon hadn't defended himself with Longclaw.

    • @Some_Random_Asshole
      @Some_Random_Asshole Před 5 lety +1

      It's kinda obvious that killing him won't be easy.

    • @krischanlive
      @krischanlive Před 5 lety +19

      In the german version, that's exactly what he says: "It's not that easy."

    • @DorktimeBwuds
      @DorktimeBwuds Před 5 lety +5

      If that's the case, shouldn't that line have been said by Ned Stark?

  • @marion1122
    @marion1122 Před 5 lety +386

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      @khaledouertani2711 Před 5 lety +5

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    • @anitamccurdy5803
      @anitamccurdy5803 Před 5 lety

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    • @mike4ch
      @mike4ch Před 5 lety +1

      If it was crack I’d be a crackhead

    • @hogowar
      @hogowar Před 5 lety

      Yes!

  • @smarie4233
    @smarie4233 Před 5 lety +16

    There was something strange about how Hodor’s eyes went back to normal right as he started holding the door. His comprehension came back. Bran was standing there staring at Hodor and the 3ER was staring at Bran. Did Bran get stuck in the past and the 3ER taken over Bran? The promise to fly again seems like a play on words. The 3ER warned Bran that if he stayed too long he’d get stuck there. We all assumed the 3ER was killed and evaporated but what if he left Bran in the past purposely. Bran didn’t come back to reality until well out of the cave and was changed from then on. Seems like he was lured into the cave so that the 3ER could get out.

    • @condorX2
      @condorX2 Před rokem +1

      Yep.
      There is a video explaining how the 3ER set Bran up to become his successor, from the moment he got pushed from a tower and breaking both of his legs.

  • @Rudrugo
    @Rudrugo Před 5 lety +16

    I think that's possible, and I think that has happened. The NK and bran stared at each other before arya came flying. They might have switched bodies in that moment.

  • @Juschilin1.0
    @Juschilin1.0 Před 5 lety +275

    “What is dead may never die.”

    • @UDLTUBE
      @UDLTUBE Před 5 lety +5

      Jon Snow and Berric also?

    • @MehIgotnothing
      @MehIgotnothing Před 5 lety +10

      "But rises harder and stronger."

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller Před 5 lety

      🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @hermes7330
      @hermes7330 Před 5 lety

      Fourthgear88 you are not quoting anyone

    • @MehIgotnothing
      @MehIgotnothing Před 5 lety +1

      A C E, actually it is a quote from House Greyjoy.

  • @RealGateGuardian
    @RealGateGuardian Před 5 lety +457

    82 Days until Winter Arrives...

  • @angela742
    @angela742 Před 5 lety +188

    Will bran enter viserion? And kill the night king?! I remember the three eyed raven told him he will never walk again but he will fly!

    • @tzxfgl
      @tzxfgl Před 5 lety +28

      well, he is flying now trhough ravens/crows those birds already.

    • @timothyb07777
      @timothyb07777 Před 5 lety +3

      He did, in a raven.

    • @lindsaytur496
      @lindsaytur496 Před 5 lety +1

      Ive been thinking this since i found out about Worging and Dragons

    • @SuperD00D
      @SuperD00D Před 5 lety +7

      Lol that would be so funny if he just crashed into a wall to kill the night king, so silly and anti climactic

    • @cherylbaxterstormborn477
      @cherylbaxterstormborn477 Před 5 lety +1

      angeemima He may be able to worge into Visarion with the Night King on it an destroy them both that would be cool

  • @skepticalfox5885
    @skepticalfox5885 Před 5 lety +194

    I think if Bran is the NK then he gave Arya the dagger on purpose for her to eventually use it to kill him, ending the time loop they are all trapped in. The time loop being that Bran at some point enters the NK mind and becomes trapped in his mind, living inside his mind for thousands of years.
    This is where I think people don’t fully understand...
    Wheelchair Bran touches a weirwood and enters the NK while he is still human. But the COTF do the ritual and turn him into the NK, which traps Brans consciousness for thousands of years, all the up until the present day NK we see now. So Brans consciousness lives out thousands of years as the NK, which occurs nearly in an instant for Wheelchair Bran in the current time. Kinda like the type of time travel we see in interstellar, when the closer they get to the black hole, the faster time moves in relation to everyone back on earth. How his children can age 40 years in what was only hours for him.
    I think eventually Arya will be informed or figure out what is happening, and use the dagger to kill Wheelchair Bran, simotainiously killing the NK from the present.
    Watch the scene again where Bran gives the dagger to Arya and you will see the foreshadowing.
    Bran” It’s wasted on a cripple.”
    The ultimate attempt at sarcastic irony.
    And watch his face when he hands it to her. How he watches the dagger as it slowly leaves his hands. Knowing that he is giving this to Arya so that she will use it to kill him.

    • @missjordantaylor-holbrook4873
    • @sandrarenkine8962
      @sandrarenkine8962 Před 5 lety +9

      I DO agree with you... Bran´s face while he gives the dagger to Arya was so strange.... But I believe that Arya killing Bran won´t kill the NK, cause Bran will be trapped inside NK since then.

    • @timstevens9921
      @timstevens9921 Před 5 lety +1

      100%👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @ByWayOfDeception
      @ByWayOfDeception Před 5 lety

      Its really interesting but difficult to relay in a teleplay in a satisfying way.

    • @squrrelguy
      @squrrelguy Před 5 lety +1

      I like the time travel "theory" because what else is bran supposed to do again someone like the nightking? He'd have to do some sort of time travel to obtain super weirwood powers exactly like the nightkings

  • @kevinburbules3744
    @kevinburbules3744 Před 5 lety +153

    When Jon Snow says “you don’t understand” it’s because “ONE SKIN CHANGER CAN ALWAYS SENSE ANOTHER”

    • @JKerr97
      @JKerr97 Před 5 lety +3

      Wait. Whaat.

    • @codyosburn1789
      @codyosburn1789 Před 5 lety +5

      In the "Beyond the Wall" episode when he tells Beric " No you don't understand".

    • @justjenny5437
      @justjenny5437 Před 5 lety +3

      Whoa...

    • @JKerr97
      @JKerr97 Před 5 lety +1

      @@codyosburn1789 was a joke, but thank you :)

    • @stonedvillain79
      @stonedvillain79 Před 5 lety +19

      Nah, Jon Snow knows nothing

  • @TheAutumnWind_RN4L
    @TheAutumnWind_RN4L Před 5 lety +75

    You have the most EPIC intro of any channel on CZcams.

    • @TalkingThrones
      @TalkingThrones  Před 5 lety +4

      Wow thanks! I love it too lol.

    • @advait9253
      @advait9253 Před 5 lety +1

      I second that

    • @ciarandavey9619
      @ciarandavey9619 Před 5 lety +1

      Return_Of_The_Mack totally agree, gives me chills haha

    • @TheAutumnWind_RN4L
      @TheAutumnWind_RN4L Před 5 lety

      @@ciarandavey9619 I watch it at least 3 times before I actually watch the video.🤦‍♂️

    • @ciarandavey9619
      @ciarandavey9619 Před 5 lety +1

      Return_Of_The_Mack me too hahaha it’s just the music that gets me and the scene he took the line from is one of my favourite scenes 😆

  • @exoniauchiha2719
    @exoniauchiha2719 Před 5 lety +29

    Notice how all the Stark hero's from The Age of Hero's are named "Brandon".

    • @meggiea7502
      @meggiea7502 Před 5 lety

      Exonia Uchiha good point

    • @qqq4200
      @qqq4200 Před 5 lety

      yeah almost every ither generation of stark has a Brandon whether its a bastard or a trueborn, there are exceptions but there seems to almost always be a brandon stark at any given time.

    • @karensiegel6669
      @karensiegel6669 Před 5 lety

      Bran the builder etc.

    • @emberN
      @emberN Před 5 lety +1

      Bec they are all Bran

  • @Lisa-MarieComplete
    @Lisa-MarieComplete Před 5 lety +31

    Here after ep. 3 and really hoping this is the twist. There was a moment...

    • @Rudrugo
      @Rudrugo Před 5 lety +3

      When they stared at each other.... they might have switched bodies

  • @777spectre.
    @777spectre. Před 5 lety +376

    Does that mean that bran died in the cave and the 3 eyed raven entered his body ....so its not really bran at all ....😮😮😮😥

    • @wendyryan3668
      @wendyryan3668 Před 5 lety +7

      What????

    • @MissGinaWar
      @MissGinaWar Před 5 lety +74

      that's what i thought, but he never addressed that. Especially cause he says, i remember being Bran Stark, I remember what it felt like. But i dont know if its bran anymore i dont think he is.

    • @onura7524
      @onura7524 Před 5 lety +9

      hmm interesting

    • @lisa-sz8jj
      @lisa-sz8jj Před 5 lety +15

      Meera said so

    • @TheAutumnWind_RN4L
      @TheAutumnWind_RN4L Před 5 lety +1

      Whoa

  • @mikiasg8867
    @mikiasg8867 Před 5 lety +53

    I think it’s the other way around. Bran is the three eyed raven with the ability to Warg. He could have traveled back in time to get inside the night king’s body, which explains why he didn’t kill Jon, because he knows Jon is the song of ice and fire and the only one that can kill him. And the reason he couldn’t get out from the night king’s body is because he stayed too long in the past. In the words of the OG three eyed raven “it’s beautiful beneath the sea, but stay too long and you drown”

    • @TizOnly1
      @TizOnly1 Před 5 lety +2

      I think Bran being the Night King is almost obvious at this point.

    • @impala-op4xo
      @impala-op4xo Před 5 lety +2

      Idk if I understood that wrong, but if the NK is actually Bran's soul in the NK's body, then why doesn't he just "kill himself", or just stay beyond the wall, and why should he kill so many people incl. innocent children and his uncle?

    • @TizOnly1
      @TizOnly1 Před 5 lety +3

      @@impala-op4xo I think people have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too simplistic a view of the Walkers. To assume that Bran would or should kill the Night King is to assume that Bran is "good" and the Night King is "evil", and I think it's silly to think that's the story we're getting.
      I think it's way more likely that we'll see the WWs as sympathetic figures by the time the last episode (or at least the last book) comes around. There's still MUCH to be learned about their motivations.

    • @Adell1721
      @Adell1721 Před 5 lety

      @@impala-op4xo maybe they've just swaped their souls so Bran's is in the NK's body and NK's is in Bran's .. so Bran in the NK's body needs to go in the South to fight the NK in Bran's body ...

    • @impala-op4xo
      @impala-op4xo Před 5 lety

      @@Adell1721 oh wow, that's interesting

  • @thano9465
    @thano9465 Před 5 lety +17

    The Night's King is Tom Riddle

  • @anonymousSWE
    @anonymousSWE Před 5 lety +10

    Pod should do to the Night King whatever he did with those girls. That'll teach him to relax a bit.

  • @foundationsmedicalinformat2420

    The NK won't be able to march forth and take Westeros. Bran simply won't stand for it!
    *I'm sorry.... I'll see myself out..*

  • @lady_wasser
    @lady_wasser Před 5 lety +127

    When you’re napping and TT comes up!

    • @djr1829
      @djr1829 Před 5 lety

      @wasser, get a job

    • @lady_wasser
      @lady_wasser Před 5 lety +2

      Hahaha that’s why I was napping, probably while you’re asleep I’m working.😊

    • @djr1829
      @djr1829 Před 5 lety

      @@lady_wasser I retract my statment good man

    • @lady_wasser
      @lady_wasser Před 5 lety +3

      DJ Rosa it’s all good my friend, and I’m a girl 👧 Wasser is half of my last name Wasserman, and means water in German and 30 was how old I was when I set up my CZcams account back in the day....not going to say how long ago, or you’ll figure out how old I am now lol 😂...... let’s just say that I read AGOT in 98.......have a wonderful day and I totally appreciate your work ethics, that’s what we’re missing in this Country 😘😍

    • @lady_wasser
      @lady_wasser Před 5 lety

      NIGHTS WATCH sorry friend, English is not my first language and therefore, it’s not very good 😔, I love when people correct my spelling mistakes, that’s the only way to learn. I really appreciate it. Thank you! Have a wonderful day 😊

  • @frankiebautista7085
    @frankiebautista7085 Před 5 lety +35

    Anybody watching after the new episode ? 😂

    • @ha181293
      @ha181293 Před 5 lety

      FrankieBautista yes but I still think crasters sons are out there somewhere (i dont think they "died" just because daddy and his army did)

  • @mrikwest7609
    @mrikwest7609 Před 5 lety +7

    Thrones you’re killing me I thought I was safe 😂😂👀 Then you throw this forgotten gem into the mix.
    • Goose bump stuff here man again thank you your channel rocks 🔥🔥🔥

  • @generalPWNS
    @generalPWNS Před 5 lety +53

    I'm so glad you referenced the Sixskins prologue. I thought it did a BUNCH to foreshadow the fates of Arya and Jon, and provide insight into Greenseers and Skin Changers. It also demonstrated how immensely difficult it was to jump into a human, but I never put it together with the Night King.
    You know how Bran was told he'd never walk again, but he would fly? Are the Ravens too obvious? Could Bran die and move into one of the Dragons?

    • @SuperCow228
      @SuperCow228 Před 5 lety +1

      generalPWNS bran never seemed to have an issue warging into holdor... but then again maybe holdor doesn’t count as a true person 🤔

    • @jennywhitehead4069
      @jennywhitehead4069 Před 5 lety +9

      Maybe Bran could warg Hodor without issue because he had already done it while Hodor was a child 🤔 first time around Willis rejected the intrusion of Bran into his body and he became Hodor!!!

    • @avahans1957
      @avahans1957 Před 5 lety +1

      generalPWNS I don't think so. Dragons are living fire, and embody magic. Not only this, but dragons seem to have a connection with their user similar to warging in a way, but different too.

    • @SuperCow228
      @SuperCow228 Před 5 lety +1

      Jenny Whitehead I was just thinking about Holdor going insane during Brans intrusion as well. But this leaves me with many questions- Holdor wasn’t being warged. So how would that be foreshadowing the difficulty of warging a human? For example, Bran had far more interaction with Neds timeline than Holdors. Why wasn’t Ned driven mad? So I’m not sure this is evidence of the difficulties of warging into another human. However, this may be evidence of the dangerous power of the three eyed raven and explain why Bran was able to warg into Holdor later (or earlier?) - his mind was already broken by the adventures of Bran and the three eyed raven in full circle.

    • @bensambo449
      @bensambo449 Před 5 lety +3

      Ava Della Cece A dragon is not a slave. Dragons don’t have “users”, they have riders.

  • @davedogge2280
    @davedogge2280 Před 5 lety +94

    the nightking is just misunderstood The Night King is the most powerful entity in Westeros but people forget he was once human and may well remember that life and something in that old life may be the very reason that he had set about on this war campaign.

    • @haydnturner9210
      @haydnturner9210 Před 5 lety +5

      Just like Dr pepper ;)

    • @Lookatmeshine
      @Lookatmeshine Před 5 lety +15

      He just wants a family. A big family.

    • @iglesiaszorro297
      @iglesiaszorro297 Před 5 lety

      What makes you think that?

    • @davedogge2280
      @davedogge2280 Před 5 lety +4

      The NightKing had a human life before he was converted, in that life lies the reason for his war campaign..not just convert the entire world to undead.

    • @wantingtolearn4729
      @wantingtolearn4729 Před 5 lety +1

      Could it be Daeynaers' father?

  • @eccers
    @eccers Před 5 lety +50

    What if Bran wargs into the Night King and takes his own life? :o

    • @elsavon4610
      @elsavon4610 Před 5 lety

      🤯

    • @TheDozierHimself
      @TheDozierHimself Před 5 lety +2

      It'll create the paradox similar to how hordor died but the night king will jump back to become the night again

    • @taylorvansickle8928
      @taylorvansickle8928 Před 5 lety +1

      Was just going to post something like this. I like this idea. Self sacrifice for the living. Or perhaps he could lead the dead back north. Stoked to see where all this goes.

    • @psterud
      @psterud Před 5 lety +1

      Interesting idea. He will fly again, so maybe after he wargs into the Night King, he'll then warg into a raven, and then the whole cycle will repeat.

    • @plkyv
      @plkyv Před 5 lety

      I assume you can't warg into another First Men.

  • @ladiesgentswegothim
    @ladiesgentswegothim Před 5 lety +11

    I always thought that Crastor's sons were for a different purpose than his white walker lieutenants. They were infants, and the white walkers were ancient-looking. We've seen nothing to suggest the infants' growth were accelerated, and it's reasonable to believe the opposite; living on as a wight in the extreme cold probably affords extreme long life and resistance to decay. I suspected they would be used in some way for the NK to live on anew were he killed, or leap-frog through time if his current form gives out from extreme age, etc.

    • @KarusMBII
      @KarusMBII Před 5 lety

      Faffy Waffle EXACTLY what I was thinking! He is taking babies to use as potential vessels, and from specific bloodlines so that if he does lose his current form, he will not be restricted to a normal/powerless vessel (this would explain why we never see/hear about him taking Wildling babies, only Craster’s, who is potentially the son of Bloodraven)

  • @usmanraja600
    @usmanraja600 Před 5 lety +73

    Hey TT. Who is your favourite GOT character. My favourite is the Night king, rightful King of the Andals and the First Men, lord of the lands of always winter, the bringer of winter and the ender of summer, the freezer geezer, the man with no chill, the silent killer, the wall buster and father of Craster’s sons.

  • @lisajoseph796
    @lisajoseph796 Před 5 lety +122

    The Night King can only enter the dead and Bran can only enter the living.

    • @Aywaar
      @Aywaar Před 5 lety +15

      The baby was alive.Crasters son.

    • @floriponik6665
      @floriponik6665 Před 5 lety +7

      All of crasters son's

    • @tryptamind6839
      @tryptamind6839 Před 5 lety +38

      @@Aywaar But he didn't enter that baby, he just turned it into a WW which is a big difference.
      WWs are not the same thing as those undead wights. WWs are their own people with independant thoughts and actions. The wights are just undead people being controlled by the NK (or another WW) against their will.

    • @saad210
      @saad210 Před 5 lety +11

      I can only enter you

    • @stvnking8826
      @stvnking8826 Před 5 lety +1

      saad210 😂😂😂😂

  • @ceemula8626
    @ceemula8626 Před 5 lety +7

    When you had Bran and the Night king side by side they profile is just alike

  • @Swnsasy
    @Swnsasy Před 5 lety +1

    Loving this channel! I've been binge watching for hours!! Haha!

  • @kathybyrd1543
    @kathybyrd1543 Před 5 lety +95

    Bran can controls the living the night king control the dead

    • @meatloaf6107
      @meatloaf6107 Před 5 lety +1

      Then who controls the living dead?

    • @asdrjg
      @asdrjg Před 5 lety +27

      @@meatloaf6107 netflix..

    • @tinaiagana5729
      @tinaiagana5729 Před 5 lety +1

      @@asdrjg hahahaha that was good

    • @asdrjg
      @asdrjg Před 5 lety

      @@tinaiagana5729 ty..😊

    • @bigfudge2031
      @bigfudge2031 Před 5 lety +4

      but the white walkers (babies) were still alive when he turned them.

  • @ruffin328able
    @ruffin328able Před 5 lety +52

    Having GOT withdrawals 😔

    • @hatihattencoat5268
      @hatihattencoat5268 Před 5 lety

      I know! Imagine after we've had our last six fixes!

    • @Onepieceownz
      @Onepieceownz Před 5 lety

      Same, I'm rewatching all the seasons a third time since I own all the blu rays :P

  • @danilshamalta3455
    @danilshamalta3455 Před 5 lety

    Man I watch ur videos over and over !! Love ur channel.

  • @madhurimadasgupta5648
    @madhurimadasgupta5648 Před 5 lety

    Last season most of the theories from this channel came true and since then this is my most favorite GOT channel.. High hopes for this season's theories too.. Also your videos make it so much easier pass these days while waiting for the final season to start.. Love your work.. And for people like me who hasn't read the book yet, these videos are real treats!!💖👍

  • @codyosburn1789
    @codyosburn1789 Před 5 lety +18

    Man I love your video's.. I kno it takes a lot of time and u have a full time job so kno that your efforts are GREATLY appreciated!!! That being said I understand why u can't put one out everyday to the dismay of all of us! Lol but plzzzz try ;)

    • @TalkingThrones
      @TalkingThrones  Před 5 lety +3

      Lol it's not as easy as it looks. They take many many hours to make. Usually 12+ hours for one video.

    • @CodexArgenteus
      @CodexArgenteus Před 5 lety +2

      @@TalkingThrones - they are so fascinating though; very addictive! I love all the nuances you catch that I haven't. Excellent job; thanks for all the hard work! :D

    • @cfrandre8319
      @cfrandre8319 Před 5 lety

      Talking Thrones All really very well done, thoughtful, provocative interpretations and alternatives, creative theories, even standing assumptions on their heads. Thank you for your genius and your generosity. I may even watch the tv version in its entirety...someday! Your work is much appreciated👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @ninanovak8377
    @ninanovak8377 Před 5 lety +4

    The intro is legendary 🔥

  • @melissareeves3683
    @melissareeves3683 Před 5 lety

    I think this is the most possible outcome out of all the videos you've made. Thank you for being a fanatic for G.O.T.!

  • @linarama2297
    @linarama2297 Před 5 lety

    Gosh im getting so super exited everytime i watch a new of your theories. To me they all seem to be reasonable.
    I just cant wait for winter to come!

  • @cdowg187
    @cdowg187 Před 4 lety +3

    Rewatching this now just makes me angrier about the execution of season 8.

  • @jacquettediggs4633
    @jacquettediggs4633 Před 5 lety +3

    I watch a lot of GOT videos however this is the only channel I’m subscribed too!

  • @seanmcguire7974
    @seanmcguire7974 Před 5 lety

    After I click to watch after receiving the notification, the next step in the process is hitting the like button before I even get through the first sentence. I know ill like it so I do it in advance. Great video Dan

  • @annclark3914
    @annclark3914 Před 5 lety

    Catching up on the videos I missed..whoa, this "batshit crazy"!!! Thk u sir..ur on point, kudos!

  • @jonhothoops
    @jonhothoops Před 5 lety +11

    What if the Night King wargs into a person to communicate?

  • @presidentfresh448
    @presidentfresh448 Před 5 lety +114

    here is a good theory in the end of the show the Night King and Jon Snow will host meme review

  • @mariahcampisi9152
    @mariahcampisi9152 Před 5 lety

    I am re- watching Your streams, and I love them every time I hear them and re-hear them

  • @Trelotrino
    @Trelotrino Před 5 lety +7

    Maybe the Night King controls everything what is dead, and Bran and the other "alive" characters could control the living. It is divided between them and no one can shift that.
    It is symbolic just as the winter's approach to King's landing and the Night KIng's wall breakthrough happening at the same time.
    The balance of life and death, or in other words the nature of duality.

    • @janelles.4774
      @janelles.4774 Před 5 lety

      András Szőke the NK sent ravens that were alive

  • @lucyfinnegan8737
    @lucyfinnegan8737 Před 5 lety +25

    "You'll never walk again....but you will fly". NK in Bran's body upon Viserion?! Possibly.

  • @jham3124
    @jham3124 Před 5 lety +3

    I've always believed that Bran is the night king. Bran has been warned not to stay in the past too long. He was warned twice. That's heavy foreshadowing that Bran will be trapped in the past at some point during the series. I think he will warg into the man who had the dragon glass plunged into his heart. Bran is going to try to alter history I think. Great video!

  • @tanyachin7483
    @tanyachin7483 Před 5 lety

    This was very eye opening hadn't read the books yet and this explained a lot of the things! Thanks a bunch!

  • @jamieflanagin2214
    @jamieflanagin2214 Před 5 lety

    As always,great work.Thank you.XO

  • @jasonc9097
    @jasonc9097 Před 5 lety +9

    One thing, I don't remember the show actually saying or proving that the the guy strapped to the tree was the actual night king? I thought the white walkers were created before the night king. Also the look on Brenden rivers face before leaf stabbed the so called night king in the heart with the dragon glass was a bit alarming... I still think the night king either made or has something to do with the three eyed raven creation. I think the night King has a piece of his soul inside the three eyed raven. I have been saying this for a while. Also it's widely speculated that the night king could pull a "six skin" and warg into someone else, possibly causing the effect the woman had resisting six skins warg(before he died) and clawing their eyes out, what if whomever if the night king did warg into happened to resist the warg by clawing their eyes out and biting their tongue off? Since the prequel will be about the long night I suppose we won't get too much clarification on the person or Stark the night king was, that's story material to bolster the prequel. We may also see the origin of r'hellor/Lord of light(through Naomi Watts character with a secret) and finally find out who and where the actual three eyed raven came from. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Just saying 🤷‍♂️

    • @dripmcpickle1173
      @dripmcpickle1173 Před 5 lety +3

      I think you're on to something with this. I've also felt that 3ER and NK are connected either through blood, in their creations themselves, or maybe 3ER was colluding with NK. I only mention the collusion point because I was always puzzled as to why when Bran woke up and grabbed the roots right under 3ER while everyone was asleep, the first thing he saw and first place he went was full of wights, white walkers, and NK himself. Why would Bran immediately go there and not anywhere else when he grabbed the roots right under 3ER? It's almost like NK was waiting for it and knew where to be. Sounds better and makes more sense in my head.

  • @jeepgrl
    @jeepgrl Před 5 lety +5

    @Talking Thrones , what are your thoughts on this now that we've seen episode 3??

  • @theshadow2171
    @theshadow2171 Před 5 lety

    Great video and theory presentation. For someone who has yet to read the books, it's nice to hear your theories, ideas and opinions about the GOT show and how they relate to the books. Thanks again!

  • @yn0t.Sentiment_FC
    @yn0t.Sentiment_FC Před 5 lety

    This is great, thanks always my g

  • @farewell_to_normalcy9352
    @farewell_to_normalcy9352 Před 5 lety +3

    7:00 if there was ever a time when people thought ‘Bran is the night king’ look at the noses. My goodness those are both honkers

  • @sitzp1nkler
    @sitzp1nkler Před 5 lety +10

    I DONT BELIEVE THEY JUST KILLED THE NIGH KING
    THAT WAY KKKKKKKKJKJKJ

  • @buddymcshreds5284
    @buddymcshreds5284 Před 5 lety

    Can't get enough of your videos. Thanks for all you work bringing us quality entertainment. Later mate

  • @khaleesiclues8281
    @khaleesiclues8281 Před 5 lety

    I like it!😁 Definitely food for thought. I feel a headache in my near future today... 😂 Thanks for the great theory! ❤️

  • @markpjf85
    @markpjf85 Před 5 lety +6

    Okay sounds intriguing

  • @xanadar
    @xanadar Před 5 lety +3

    This fits even better, now that the Night King has, supposedly, been killed.

  • @MrOTcomputer
    @MrOTcomputer Před 5 lety

    BEST theory yet! I thought of alot of things, but not this amazing theory of the Knight King taking over Bran. Brilliant and interesting. It might just happen. Thanks for sharing.

  • @bsweaty5325
    @bsweaty5325 Před 5 lety

    It's possible, that would be wild if it happens that way, great video brother

  • @jbass6665
    @jbass6665 Před 5 lety +15

    The Night King is Bob Newhart. Just wait and see.

  • @MrMoneyKlip
    @MrMoneyKlip Před 5 lety +5

    I could seriously listen to a video of you just saying "birds" for 2 whole hours

  • @jesusadecorazon5258
    @jesusadecorazon5258 Před 5 lety

    I still want to be surprised so can't wait for the final season. Thanks for this so enlightening.

  • @johnnymorawski6543
    @johnnymorawski6543 Před 5 lety

    I’ve watched this maybe ten times and love it more every time I see it

  • @krakraen343
    @krakraen343 Před 5 lety +11

    you will never walk again, but you will fly (on a zombie dragon).

  • @rohollahazizi9517
    @rohollahazizi9517 Před 5 lety +4

    I think the Night King will take John Sow's body without others realizing and will plan to sit on Iron Throne without war. And the only person who could find that out is the one familiar with the no face God.

  • @amberpoulson2143
    @amberpoulson2143 Před 5 lety +1

    I think it's possible especially since Bran's personality seems to be disappearing. It is almost like he's being wiped clean for something else. However, there is another theory out there that says they won't kill the Night King, but heal him with green dragon glass. I think both could be true.

  • @michellewhitt7237
    @michellewhitt7237 Před 5 lety +1

    I see absolutely endless possibilities i cant even begin to weave here

  • @laurengoulden8754
    @laurengoulden8754 Před 5 lety +17

    Maybe the Night King enters Danis body, and Jon kills her? 🤔

    • @tryptamind6839
      @tryptamind6839 Před 5 lety +6

      Indeed. It has already been foreshadowed that she will die and this is probably why.

    • @ByWayOfDeception
      @ByWayOfDeception Před 5 lety

      Its pretty dark since she is supposed to be younger in the books (so I am told).

  • @davykats4067
    @davykats4067 Před 5 lety +20

    If they night King converts a baby into a white walker does the baby remain a baby (seems like a baby whitewalker is not useful) or does the baby "grow up" into a white walker adult? I thought the white walkers were "frozen" literally and at their current body age level. Is this a silly question?

    • @CMCrockett
      @CMCrockett Před 5 lety +2

      Maybe those babies are stand-by bodies for the NK to jump into.

    • @karenbaumgartel6077
      @karenbaumgartel6077 Před 5 lety

      I don't think it's silly. TT actually addressed this in another video, though I can't remember which, like what happens to all Craster's male babies that are turned into white walkers?

    • @TalkingThrones
      @TalkingThrones  Před 5 lety +11

      It's a really good question that needs a definitive answer. Not sure if the show will ever address it tho. I assume they grow up quickly.

    • @Adell1721
      @Adell1721 Před 5 lety

      @@karenbaumgartel6077 Did they even show us they really become WW in the future? I don't think so, we've just figured it out ourselves, right?

    • @karenbaumgartel6077
      @karenbaumgartel6077 Před 5 lety +2

      @@Adell1721 I felt it was pretty clear when they show the WW bringing the baby to the Night King and he touches it's cheek and then the baby's eyes turn icy blue. But I have the feeling TT is right: the series probably won't have time to show what happens to the WW babies (unfortunately!)

  • @jadecryingwolf4085
    @jadecryingwolf4085 Před 5 lety

    Your theory is a trip ... very interesting. And not one I've heard before.

  • @leerobinson9969
    @leerobinson9969 Před 5 lety

    Totally possible what an amazing video thank you

  • @leontarmann3449
    @leontarmann3449 Před 5 lety +11

    Actually, he didn't just die immediately, he got pierced in the stomach, not the heart, so he used his last seconds attacking Jon with the eagle. Once he died, the eagle flew away.

    • @frankwilliamk3769
      @frankwilliamk3769 Před 5 lety +1

      nope in the books it is clearly stated orell lives on in his eagle, it is even explicitely said that whenever any skinchanger dies a part of him remains in his animal wheter he chooses to live on in that animal or not
      also the eagle did not fly away in the books it kept stalling john untill Varamyr six skins takes over the eagle, and from that moment on Varamyr starts hating john because of the part of Orell in the eagly that hates john, Varamyr even tells this to Mance Rader.
      Read the books bro

    • @leontarmann3449
      @leontarmann3449 Před 5 lety +1

      @@frankwilliamk3769 yes, except you may have noticed the show =/ the books. At that point it's apples and oranges. Or do you see any other stark children being wargs for example?

    • @frankwilliamk3769
      @frankwilliamk3769 Před 5 lety

      @@leontarmann3449 i though he is talking about the books

    • @frankwilliamk3769
      @frankwilliamk3769 Před 5 lety

      they are all wargs they just dont know it

    • @leontarmann3449
      @leontarmann3449 Před 5 lety +1

      @@frankwilliamk3769 clearly they are not, or they would've experienced it at least some way. If you are a warg, you get dreams before you can control it. They didn't have them at all. Also, the TITLE says Season 8, so why would you think he means the books? Lol.

  • @jadedkratos5528
    @jadedkratos5528 Před 5 lety +7

    Remember Crastor's 100 infant sons which were given to the Night King as a sacrifice? I think its possible he accepted the sacrificial infants as a means of transferring his soul, memories and powers to if his body is destroyed. If the infants are in some sense still alive they could grow up into men, if the Night King's body is destroyed then, there you have it Night King reborn.

    • @Missshantel1
      @Missshantel1 Před 5 lety

      I like that idea that the infant sons are just more Night King's that will grow up

    • @jadedkratos5528
      @jadedkratos5528 Před 5 lety +1

      ​@@Missshantel1 You misunderstood what I said. What I meant by what I said is that the infants could be host bodies for him to transfer his soul, memories and powers into when his body is destroyed.
      The infants would have to grow up to become functional host bodies when his current body is destroyed. Since there are a hundred of them he could transfer himself a hundred times, that's if his powers could work like that.

    • @Missshantel1
      @Missshantel1 Před 5 lety

      @@jadedkratos5528 Oh okay I get it now, that would be a cool concept!

    • @lucasmcdowell9360
      @lucasmcdowell9360 Před 5 lety +1

      I think that dead people turn into the zombies but live babies can be turned into actual white walkers

    • @jadedkratos5528
      @jadedkratos5528 Před 5 lety

      @@lucasmcdowell9360 I heard that quite a lot of times from CZcams channels, but it would make more sense that the infants are as I said kept around to transfer the powers, soul, memories and consciousness of the Night King if his current body is destroyed.
      Jon (Aegon) most likely was hinting to what I was guessing when he confronted the Night King, was either in season 6 or 7?

  • @marymiller3851
    @marymiller3851 Před 5 lety

    I think your theory of the night king entering Brann's body at death is very possible! Sounds plausible -- could very well be!!! Love it - love your channel too!

  • @robertrodriguez4622
    @robertrodriguez4622 Před 5 lety

    Very conversational!

  • @christinehaggard589
    @christinehaggard589 Před 5 lety +3

    I watched a video about the prequel for the Age of Heroes period 8,000 years earlier....Age of Bran the builder and house formation. I am doing a little reading on that. Hard to wrap my mind around

  • @NosreBDF
    @NosreBDF Před 5 lety +17

    Talking Thrones What if what the Night King was promised is the son of Ice and Fire. The son of a Targaryen and a Stark a.k.a the Lightbringer. What if the Lightbringer will bring the end not by fighting and killing the Night King but with providing him with a body compatible to him so that he can be lifted of his curse and return back to his normal self. Ending what the old children of the forest had started. That would be a really good reason for him to be preparing his assault all these years so that he can take what was rightfully promised to him. Also a very good reason as to why he would favour Snow and why he was waiting for the moment that he would be providing a son to begin his attack.

    • @MrsDeeDee313
      @MrsDeeDee313 Před 5 lety +1

      My theory was that Jon Snow would sacrifice himself/volunteer to become the new Night King, but your theory is an even more amazing concept. However, another commenter raised the fact that the one white walker Jon killed, really was trying to kill him. So if he had succeeded, Jon wouldn't be alive for the the Night King to use his body, to become human again.

    • @NosreBDF
      @NosreBDF Před 5 lety +3

      @@MrsDeeDee313 Maybe it was a test(although I doubt it), but from what I understand, the Night King doesn't have full control or shared vision with all of his wightwalkers or zombies. He controls them as to "Attack" but not as to "Left swing","Grab" etc. If I am not mistaken Jon was the first one to kill a wightwalker. Maybe that was what alerted the Night King that Jon is alive. He might have felt that Jon was alive but was probably not too sure. Image going on thousands of years, doing your own thing in the north and then one day one of your elite troops(who are practically immortal) dies. He probably thought "This is it, the time has come. It can only be him". Look at his face as he looks down to Jon who had just killed the Walker. It doesn't feel like anger or fear. More like interest and satisfaction.
      PS: This is probably wrong and it is just theories for fun :P

    • @stregadisalem732
      @stregadisalem732 Před 5 lety +1

      If this is true then why wouldn’t he wait to tear down the wall until Dany is about to give birth? What is he going to do for 9 months? Wait around?

    • @MrsDeeDee313
      @MrsDeeDee313 Před 5 lety

      @@stregadisalem732 LOL!

    • @NosreBDF
      @NosreBDF Před 5 lety

      @@stregadisalem732 Destroy anyone who has the intention to stop him? Conquering 7 kingdoms and capturing two kings practically takes some time to accomplish. Maybe while doing that he also gets back at those who broke the promise.

  • @spoiledoatmilk
    @spoiledoatmilk Před 5 lety +1

    came back to this video because of your post on twitter. there are 3 episodes left and i sorta believe this is a possibility. i think arya still has a major kill left and i was leaning towards cersei after the long night but now i’m thinking arya will kill bran because that quote keeps coming back to me when bran gives arya the dagger and said something like “this was meant to kill me” so this video is making sense with what’s happened!

  • @letsgoreds3363
    @letsgoreds3363 Před 5 lety

    My little sister asked my theories about the new season... 2 minutes, all of your ideas. It was great

  • @anaana6377
    @anaana6377 Před 5 lety +25

    Wow very interesting theory... What if Night King has alredy "changed" into someone else and we see him as he is now but it's acttualy someone else...

    • @adammccallum9409
      @adammccallum9409 Před 5 lety +5

      Great idea, yeah like nk is being warged from the land of always winter by the man who is stabbed in the chest with drag glass and he's being supervised by the children. Damn now that'll be mad or something like that anyway!

    • @elizabethvmoraes
      @elizabethvmoraes Před 5 lety

      Someone else, like...like the first night king ever...! Uou!

  • @blakeclark2332
    @blakeclark2332 Před 5 lety +9

    what if by chance the night king is able to take winterfell and the big twist is it is actually an ancient white walker temple(kinda like ancient valyria&Targaryens)under the crypts and is able to perform magic unseen before by the canon or tv show, and by extension another twist could be that the night king is actually an old Stark King of Winter finishing the war he sought out 8,000 years ago to take his ancestral home or maybe to recover something to protect him from an impending threat further north we haven’t seen or heard of yet i’m going off on a tangent lmao

    • @Firenutz
      @Firenutz Před 5 lety

      Blake Clark What a TWEEST!

    • @tryptamind6839
      @tryptamind6839 Před 5 lety +3

      Not sure if everything you mentioned is true, but I definitely think the NK is not the big bad everyone is expecting.
      I think everyone will go to war with him, lose the war, lose a bunch of lives, just to find out they didn't need to fight him in the first place because he was just trying to undo the WW "spell" the CotF created, or trying to save the planet, or whatever the NK's goal is.
      To lose all those people's live for no reason and to find out there never needed to be a war in the first place, would be bittersweet (just like everyone keeps saying about S8) and it would fit right in with GRRM's anti-war stance.

    • @carriezen8499
      @carriezen8499 Před 5 lety

      Blake Clark, Colonel Sandor... You are definitely on the right track imo.

  • @rhaenyrareigns2200
    @rhaenyrareigns2200 Před 5 lety

    Great tunes playing all throughout the whole video.

  • @narwhal_dust5458
    @narwhal_dust5458 Před 5 lety

    Great video, keeping me held over until s8

  • @tatumabercrombie1050
    @tatumabercrombie1050 Před 5 lety +6

    I also have a small theory, I don’t think Jon ever truly finds out he’s a Targaryen, the north have always hated the Targaryens since Roberts rebellion, yet Jon was a statue in the crypts of winterfell but he is part Targaryen, none of the northerners besides Ned would do that because he accepted Jon the way he was even as a Targaryen, I don’t think Jon truly finds out about his heritage because of this

    • @joseorozco4177
      @joseorozco4177 Před 5 lety

      half stark. he already proved everything to the north. they wont waste any time debating the north acceptance. Sam will be able to tell him and also other secrets from the citadel books

  • @EmmaLPeel
    @EmmaLPeel Před 5 lety +4

    But can the Night King maintain all of his powers if the vessel he tries to skin change does not have those abilities? As it is Bran is the only person near his level of power. I feel like the Three Eyed Raven is replaced, and so is the Night King. It almost seems like the Three Eyed Raven must be immobile as both Bran and Bloodraven we’re both unable to walk. So it was always destined for him to take that fall. So I say all that to say this, as things go, it seems like someone of a particular lineage or someone with particular qualities or skill set has to be the Night Kings replacement. I don’t think he will die. That dude has already proven to be well beyond formidable.

  • @MrA4matic
    @MrA4matic Před 5 lety

    Watching this just before S8 E5 - I can't believe how accurate your theories are...

  • @coffeelover9353
    @coffeelover9353 Před 5 lety

    Very informative!

  • @natukundamarian5330
    @natukundamarian5330 Před 5 lety +34

    I think bran might just surprise us... not sure how tho 😅😅😅😅😅

  • @ciarandavey9619
    @ciarandavey9619 Před 5 lety +10

    I like the idea of the night king leaving his body to skin change into bran, if this is to happen would that mean Jon snow has to kill bran? This could explain why bran has almost emotionless since his return from beyond the wall? Maybe he already knows what has to be done and that he has to die at the end of the war by the hands of his own brother(cousin)? Or what if the night king changed into Jon snow but it isn’t shown till the last scene of Jon where he’s sat on the iron throne as the camera closes in on his face his eyes turn blue.....

  • @nickelpeed
    @nickelpeed Před 5 lety

    This is a great theory. And, could very well be what the Night King can do. Move to another body; however, why hasn't he done that previously? Great video as usual!!

  • @perseffanie1315
    @perseffanie1315 Před 5 lety

    I do believe you are on the right track. Maybe if the night king enters Bran's body he would finally be able to talk and let Jon and the others know what he really wants or needs. Or be able to tell them what the original packed was about and how they maybe able to help him find somekind of peace between them (Jon and company) and for himself. IDK just an idea, what do you think? Thanks for all your hard work on the videos you bring us. Your's are always my favorites.

  • @martic36
    @martic36 Před 5 lety +3

    Maybe Bran flying is him entertaining the ice dragon and fighting with the other dragons to defeat the King

  • @KD-ib4qq
    @KD-ib4qq Před 4 lety +3

    update: he's just some freezing cold mute who got killed by a little girl

  • @muchu09
    @muchu09 Před 5 lety

    Love your channel, can you do a video of the characters who will survive the Great War?

  • @wh1skeybud
    @wh1skeybud Před 5 lety +1

    you said something that really just made me think of an ending that would piss me off. what if they deliver the final blow to the NK but he body jumps, they all think it’s over and stuff , then the body he jumps into, opens their eyes and you see Blue and the show ends.. i’d be sooooooo pissed. shows love to leave stuff unanswered like that.

  • @Thehandyshopper
    @Thehandyshopper Před 5 lety +34

    The knight King is a Targaryen. He can walk through fire and ride a dragon. He’s captivated by John also (who is also a Targaryen). Maybe that’s why John says “you don’t understand”. Maybe John senses a connection.

    • @luuksnijder2278
      @luuksnijder2278 Před 5 lety +4

      So the nk and deanerys will end up together? Ice and fire?

    • @giapicklz4554
      @giapicklz4554 Před 5 lety +2

      Interesting, I just mentioned that the NK might worg into Jon & Dany's child (if she is pregnant).

    • @allieofthrones
      @allieofthrones Před 5 lety +1

      you don’t have to be targaryen to ride a dragon

    • @Thehandyshopper
      @Thehandyshopper Před 5 lety

      Never said you had to be Targaryen to ride a dragon.... just that they do in the movie.

    • @johnnyjumper5936
      @johnnyjumper5936 Před 5 lety +1

      Melissa Hanes the other white walkers can walk through fire, and he never walks through it he just extuingeshes it momentarily in that space

  • @RangerHouston
    @RangerHouston Před 5 lety +11

    I think he's a Stark. I think the Stark bloodline is mixed human and White Walker, which is why the Starks do so well in the cold and other things.

  • @StubbyBoardman
    @StubbyBoardman Před 5 lety

    You're simply the fooking best!