Just About Sailing January 3 2019 - Galley refit continued, Origo stove, sink and fridge
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- This is the first fit of all the new galley bits into the boat - Origo Stove, Bearmach 32 Litre Fridge and Romesco Sink. Everything is still temporary as this was a 'proof of concept' exercise. Also, I need to figure out where the ducting for the air blown heating is going to go - possibly behind the new cooker, so nothing will be finalised until the heating is sorted out.
That’s was great, thankyou. I have decided to put a chinese diesel heater on my boat and am going through the process of decided where to site it etc, so your timing is impeccable! I look forward to seeing how you solve all the issues so I don’t have to! Thank you again Paul for such an interesting series
Deciding where to put the heater is proving to be the most difficult bit. I think the actual joining everything together will be quite easy. I think I am going to split the diesel installation into two. The first will be all about where to put it. As I am sure you are realising it is all about what happens with the ducting. There are five 'tubes' coming out of the thing (including the diesel line) and they all have their own requirements which seem incompatible. I still haven't fully decided where it is going. Cheers.
We just got the 52 liter version of that fridge. Here in USA it is sold on amazon under the Costway name, but exact same fridge just a wee bit taller, I think. We used it on our 28ft sailboat this weekend while removing toe rails to Rebed and the wife absolutely loves it. No more money spent on ice, no more wasted money on water saturated food, and no more frozen fingers from sticking your hand into icy water, because the thing you need always finds its way to the bottom. Keep up the good work, love the vids and your Yacht is coming along nicely.
Thanks for this. That's useful to know as I am not sure that Bearmach would ship outside the UK. I am guessing that there is one manufacturer out there (China?) that is making these fridges and they are being distributed by different companies in different countries. I was wondering if my fridge was too big on my 28ft boat, so it's good to hear that you have an even bigger one on a similar sized yacht.
I am happy with the way the work is going after the delays of last year. This was supposed to be a sailing channel rather than a DIY channel - but I guess that this is the reality of owning a small older sailboat.
I am in the same “Boat” as you. In the middle of upgrading my boat and it is taking way longer than I expected. I Figured 6mo and it’s now been 2yrs. Although I am finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Most of that delay had to do with my health issues. Now that I got off all the meds and all my symptoms have gone away. I am now making quick progress of all my work.
If you are interested look up Ken D. Berry M.D. here on CZcams. He is a medical doctor who also is eating/promoting a Carnivore diet like me. He wrote a book called The Lies Your Doctor Told You. Basically for me, I had perpetual heartburn, chronic arthritis pains, complete lack of energy, severe sugar swings and recently started having random all over itchiness. Went to Doctors for 2yrs and none of them had any clue what the problem was. I was eating very healthy according to them. Low fat meat in moderation, low carbs and plenty of fruits and vegetables. Was still gaining weight and feeling terrible.All of that went away along with losing about 11.5kg weight without trying. Literally no exercising, just cut out, the fruits and Vegetables.
I eat what is ancestrally appropriate for me...meat, eggs and cheese. And as much as I want of those, no calorie restrictions. Little to no vegetables or fruits. Zero carbs, Zero processed sugars. Sounds harder than it is. My energy levels are now through the roof. No pain, no heartburn. Best thing I have ever done in my life. I wish this info had been available to me 20yrs ago. Who doesn’t want to be on diet where you can eat as much bacon and steaks as you like?
Sounds like we are leading parallel lives in some ways. It has taken a long time, but my GP has narrowed things down a lot and I now do have more energy levels to do the boat work. However, there is a 'consultant specialist' appointment coming up in a few weeks. I probably need to make some decisions following on from that. Glad that you have managed to find a health regime that works for you - and as you say, that's a pretty good diet. It could have been brussel sprouts and lentils - although I actually like both of those.
Good that you can now see the light at the end of the tunnel - I am pretty much in the same position.
Since you are about to love the stove, let me give you a very useful tip regarding "drying" bio ethanol.
As you know bio ethanol contains between 5% and 7% water which you could do without for obvious caloric reasons. The main complaint with the Origo stoves (they have an relative low temp flame going) are not actually based in the stove itself but rather in the caloric value of the fuel most people end up using (like you the cheaper 5-7% water containing kind)
There is a solution out there in lab-land called Molecular Sieves. These sieves are basically ceramic pellets (2-4mm in diameter) which have tiny pores in them. These pores are large enough to let in water molecules but small enough to keep out ethanol molecules.
You dump these pellets into a volume of "wet" bio ethanol, wait about 3 hours per liter of volume, maybe a little gentle stir or an even more gentle swirl every 2-3 hours and your ethanol is dried to essentially 100% (or very near that)
The pellets can be dried out again after the drying procedure in either the sun (in a greenhouse kind of setup) or in an oven.
These pellets should last a long long time provided you treat them well (they tend to get damaged if stirred around violently or bashed about when they are not in a liquid. With molecular sieves you go reverse James Bond, stirred not shaken...
I use a Origo 2 burner like yours in my camper van (I dislike propane with a vengeance) with dried bio ethanol and in my experience the dried fuel burns about 5-8% hotter (deep frying for instance becomes possible whereas on regular bio ethanol the stove struggles to maintain enough heat output to fry successfully)
The Molecular Sieves you may want to look for to remove water from ethanol have a pore size of 3 Angstrom (the people at the lab store know what that means and advice you as to how to treat them, dry them and store them). A batch of 2 kg (dry) should be able to dry 5 L of 5% water polluted bio ethanol and should set you back not much more then 10 pounds per kg (dry).
Thanks very much for this. Very interesting. I might well give this a try and try some sort of comparison test. De-watered bio-ethanol in one burner and 'standard' in the other one.
By the way - it was pointed out to me a few weeks ago that Doetic are no longer making the Origo Stove. They seem to have just vanished from the marketplace without a trace. Very sad as everyone I know that has an Origo thinks they are great.
Paul
Paul, you may some nice purchases. The bigger sink is nice. And you will love the fridge! It's coming along nicely.
Cheers Tom. I notice that you often feature preparing decent meals on your videos when you go out sailing. I feel exactly the same. I don't see any reason to compromise on food when cruising. And for decent food you need a decent preparation area. I am looking forward to putting it all into practice and preparing my first banquet. Cheers.
Wow that is a very nice sink, seriously nice. Like the whole layout . Keep in mind the frig/ freeze has to breath when you start building behind it.
I appreciate the comment on the sink - it's wonderful isn't it. Yes, I will leave the required spacing around the back part of the fridge. It's a very good point to make as they simply don't work if the heat can't be dissipated. Thanks for watching. Cheers.
Thanks for the videos.
I remember my first cup of tea aboard the Brenda C superb well done
I do have a video of my first ever cup of tea aboard Serenity. It was horrible, but I loved it. I might just devote a whole episode to the first cup of tea with water boiled on the new stove and milk from the new fridge. Cheers.
Good stuff! Takes loads of thought to change things around and maximise what you are creating.That was interesting and I like what you're doing to the boat. definitely an improvement!
Thanks. I am not naturally comfortable with chopping things around in my boat. But the plan is to go longer term cruising - and the galley is so important. Actually what I mean is that food is so important. Based on the way I use a kitchen in a house, I tried to prioritise sink, and countertop workspace. To be honest I like to see something before I commit to it - hence the copious use of cardboard templates. Cheers.
Fascinating seeing you modify the boat.
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Good job no-one bought me a chainsaw for Christmas, who knows what I might be doing ;) I wouldn't do this at all if I didn't plan to keep the boat and do some longer term cruising. I am trying my hardest to do the minimum and not get carried away. But cooking and food will always be a priority.Cheers.
@@verynearlyaboutsailing8114 Well done Paul. Having owned a Mirage 28 MK II for 5 years I know the inside extremely well and you are coming up with some novel ideas. I moved up to a Gib'Sea 96 as I wanted a bit more space for my future adventures.
You wil be happy with the Origo 3000! The Wallas takes 8 minutes to start up. With the Origo you are sipping your tea by than :-) Interested how the Chinees Diesel heater is doing. I would like a stove to run without electricity and have a cook top like the Reflex or Dickinson. But for a quick heat up and as a spare I would like one of those too. In my case all the ducting is there already.
I am very much looking foreword to making my first cup of tea on Serenity - for some while. People seem to be very fond of their Origo stoves. And there is very little to go wrong. The next two videos will be on the Chinese Diesel Heater. I haven't installed it yet - I am just finalising the best place to put it so that the ducting and exhaust is not too convoluted. Cheers.
@@verynearlyaboutsailing8114 Filling when hot is the only thing that can go wrong I suppose. No error code's just a massive fire ball :-)
Wauw that sink is an absolute treat...very well designed (though I have doubts on the drip tray...looks to be a bit bendy and may break sooner rather then later - maybe do a little pre-emptive reinforcing job with some aluminium strips or the like) But the large sink is great for doing little hand washes in...
I have no idea what the sink is made out of, but it seems to be some sort of composite material and is extremely solid. I really wanted a double sink but couldn't find anything that fitted the space.
Hopefully this project will be the next to get finished - it was quite a long time back when I started it.
Cheers
Paul
Worktop hint. Corian can be routed, sanded and polished, and glued with a colour matched resin. So you could make your up-stands and fiddles all out of Corian. Done properly, it would appear to be made in a mould.
Cheers Ian - I think the clue is in your comment - "Done properly". I am honestly not sure I am up to it, but I see what you are saying.
I might have a play around with router and the resin and see how easy it is - but don't hold your breath. I continue to be surprised that any of my DIY stuff works at all.
For the Origo cover, you can hinge the front cover to the top, so they fold up and slide behind the stove together.
Cheers. I was wondering about something along those lines. However, you shouldn't underestimate how bad I am at some of this stuff. I want to use Corian, or something similar. I would also like to put a fiddle along the front of the worktop. It will probably take me as long to get that bit sorted as the rest of it altogether. Thanks for watching - and please do keep sending in suggestions. Cheers.
B&q are a good easy to obtain source for the ethanol. It's called hacienda and is £6 for 2l. It seems to last for a while too. I made the gimbals myself and it sits without moving by putting 2 pins through the gimbal into the wood/aluminium.
The gimbals are silly money for what they are. However, I really wanted the folding mechanism and I thought I would treat myself, 'just this once' - famous last words. Cheers.
Nice work Paul. I love that sink. I've been pondering what to do about the galley arrangement in my Sigma 362. I currently have two seperate surface mount sinks which doesn't really work for anything other than pure "sink usage" - the Romesco 1.5 stainless looks like the ideal solution!
I think the stainless sink might actually be (quite) a bit lighter than the composite one. My old one was tiny. I think I might grab it out of storage and show it against the new one. As a general rule, yacht sinks are awful.
By the way I have just had a look at your channel and subscribed. I am assuming you took the North Channel past Hurst Point. That choppy bit looked just like what I experienced going the other way - it was marked as overfalls on the chart, but took me by complete surprise - camera was on, but didn't record it unfortunately. Cheers.
@@verynearlyaboutsailing8114Thank for subscribing. I found you via Madds from Sail Life who I've been binge watching for the past ten days on his Athena refit. It's kind of wired really because she is one of the boats I'd looked at when browsing boatshed.com but never went to see.
Re Hurst Point, it was marked on my chart as "the trap" which is why I titled that section thus. Yeah it was pretty choppy but not quite as bad as Portland Bill the day after which we managed to time just right but still about 1.5 - 2 times bigger than Hurst Point. The run from Dartmouth to Plymouth was the best though - we estimated 4m swell and at times hit double figures surfing down it 😊.
The Origo is very straightforward to use and does the job but sit in the companion when it's doing it and your eyes will smart and you will wheeze at the vapour, at least with the meths I used. Possibly denatured alcohol etc may improve this, maybe it's the burning dye that causes the noxious fumes. Meths very expensive in places so take a good supply when you set off.
I used to have one of those 'junior chemistry kits' as a child. It had a meths burner to heat up the 'experiments' in the test tube - it stank. I used to play with it for hours on my bedroom floor - looking back, I can't imagine how dangerous that was..different times. I am hoping that you are right and that it is the dye that causes that horrible eyewatering smell. My understanding is that the bioethanol gets rid of this problem. The proper 'denatured alcohol' is very expensive and I think you need a Home Office licence for the real stuff (chance of getting one of those is zero). I won't be able to test it for a while because I need to get some plywood under the headlining above the stove and then put the aluminium heat deflector thing back on. But I will do a smell test. Who knows, I might install an extractor fan. Cheers - I hope whatever boat you are sailing now is going well. Did you sell the Mirage?
@@verynearlyaboutsailing8114 Yes, I also experimented with chemicals! Two common houshold bleach and cleaning products produced chlorine gas, I won't name them! I nearly suffocated. B&Q was the most expensive meths purchase and my local Stermat hardware chain the cheapest. A comparison test of the fuels would be useful to many. Origo ought to have their own recommendations. Maybe make your own moonshine. The Mirage went beginning of '18 season, I sailed the Cobra then, that too now gone. Mirage suffered ashore in a gale since and has lost it's mast due to the genoa unravelling. No new purchase, yet. Big boat beckons.
Sad to hear about the Mirage getting damages. I have a rope which has the sole and specific role of being tied round the genoa when it is rolled up. I even use it in the harbour. I have seen the damage an unfurling genoa can do. I look forward to hearing about the big boat.
Very nice. My wife is very interested in the fridge/freezer. We are thinking of getting something like that to make ice for our icebox rather than putting a refrigeration kit into it.
It would have been easier to do the refrigeration kit thing, but I really wanted the bigger sink. Tiny yacht sinks are a nightmare and just aren't fit for purpose. And going for a bigger sink meant that the old icebox had to come out. A lot of people seem to be going for the separate unit. When I saw the one from Bearmach with a three year warranty (although I will probably break the terms of that by putting it on a boat rather than in a Land Rover) for £300, I couldn't resist it. Cheers.
@@verynearlyaboutsailing8114 our sink is moderately-sized for a sailboat. I found a couple of plastic shoebox storage bins from "The Container Store" here in the US, that fit in the sink almost perfectly to divide it into two smaller basins for washing dishes. One basin for hot soapy water and one for hot rinse water. The "water heater" is the kettle on the stove. There is no other hot water and the sink faucets -both fresh from the tank, and raw-water are a foot and hand pump respectively. I don't trust a foot pump for raw-water situated below water level, so thus the hand pump at the sink level. A leaking pump can sink the boat if connected to a through-hull.
We can do the washing up with about a half gallon of fresh water, a quart in each basin. We use a small spray mister bottle of 50% vinegar solution in water for the final sterilization rinse. We can wash a large load of dishes with very little water as we prewash and rinse all food or gunk off first using raw-water which is filtered under the sink. The hot soapy final wash & rinse gets the saltwater off any bacteria or micro pollutants that make it through the two micron filter. The vinegar is belt & suspenders.
It works for us.
Excellent tips, thanks. I like the idea of the shoebox storage bins. I will have a look for some suitably sized bins for my sink. Ideally I would have liked a double sink. Your solution seems to give all the advantages without the huge cost. I'm not sure about plumbing in hot water - it would be nice to have, but like you, I have always done fine with a kettle.
@@verynearlyaboutsailing8114 we looked at every container or tub made before we stumbled onto the plastic shoe boxes. They are brilliant. So far they have lasted over a year of daily washings between the past 6 months living full-time on the boat since we left Chicago in June to get to Florida now, and the previous summer living on the mooring in Chicago. They look like they will last quite a bit longer and hold up to the hot water well.
The filter for the raw water is the same type of unit and uses the same element as the one we use on the fresh water system. Since sea water is often not the cleanest, and the strainer upstream only gets the large bits, it does begin to plug up after a couple of months of daily use. What I will often do is change the fresh water filter with a new one and reuse the used one on the raw water, because after only a couple of months the filter from our clean tank isn't even being close to dirty yet. Living aboard we only use about 20-25 gallons of water a week on average. We can stretch that a bit further if we are really trying but that is about average. I think these filters are rated in the thousands of gallons of flow. They only cost around $6/each on Amazon.
Our sink is roughly 13x15 so two of these fit snugly. And the price is right. We actually have a third one that we use to store our stash of Ziploc bags under the sink. So when one of the "dish tubs" fails we have a backup ready to go. All three tubs nest too, and fit under the sink nicely.
www.containerstore.com/s/our-shoe-box/d?productId=10001753&q=Shoe%20box
Looking good Paul. Can you explain a bit more your rationale for not using gas (butane, or whatever it is they sell in those blue bottles)? I'd be a bit concerned about having flammable liquids aboard --- though diesel probably wouldn't be too bad. Odor? I've been happy with gas, but maybe I haven't thought this through as much as I should have.
Hi Patrick. It's more a personal choice than anything else. The reason for not wanting to stick with butane is simply that it is heavier than air, so it won't escape from the boat on it's own, and once you get to a particular air/butane percentage mix it can explode if ignited. Very unlikely I'm sure. And it is possible to get all sorts of safety devices to detect leaks and automatically shut things off. I never had a problem with my old gas stove - but it was getting old.
Petrol (gasoline) is also pretty bad and the fumes from that tend to creep along the floor and burn/explode. So that is only for the outboard - I intend to rig up something so that the petrol can fumes don't have access to slip down into the boat.
My preference was for diesel for everything as it is pretty much inert unless you heat it up a lot.
The Wallas stove would have been ideal as it runs off diesel - but is very expensive and complex to install. The Origo is a bit of a compromise. I think that the denatured alcohol fumes tend to float upwards, so there won't be a build up. I am hoping that by using bio-ethanol there won't be a problem with smell.
As long as I keep the bio-ethanol stored safely and I follow the strict instructions about filling the Origo canisters I don't think the risk is too high. People have had problems if they try and refill through the stove top when the stove is too hot - but there really is no answer to that type of stupidity. I indent to always fill the canister away from the stove and do it outside wherever possible.
That makes a lot of sense Paul. Thanks for the background. I don't think I'll be changing anything, but good food for thought for the future. Fair winds.
Patrick Laine Gas is pressurised and “searches” for escape. It is heavier than air and will collect in the bilge. Gas explosions on leisure boats is unfortunately not uncommon. It must be fitted by a registered gas fitter,or your insurance may be void.
The Origo fuel (don’t use Meths,use Bio-ethenol.) when in the stove,it cannot spill ,as it is absorbed into a mat.
The container the fuel is supplied in is safe for storage in a cockpit locker. Purpose made metal storage containers are available.
An advanced and dedicated idiot can kill themselves with practically anything....... the difference with gas is that it creates a big bang and is very often fatal. (NB. I’ve owned and used both systems.)
Paul don't forget the height of the origo with the pan clamps if you are fitting those permanently.
Good point, thanks. I haven't ordered them yet, but I am hoping that they will come up to about the height of the gimbal brackets. If they are different I can always lower the stove a bit. Nothing is permanent yet. - Of course what I am really doing is trying to put off actually having to cut some Corian for as long as possible. Give me fibre glass any day. Cheers.
@@verynearlyaboutsailing8114 Making my own, just ordered the parts funny enough. They are so expensive for such a simple thing.
I hope you are going to do a video - I'd like to see that.
@@verynearlyaboutsailing8114 I'm copying the originals. Bought some 25mm stainless box section for the clamp, knurled 5mm knobs & 2mm stainless rod. £14 in total instead of the stupid £85 for 2 pairs lol. easy diy welding job.
You should definitely video that!
We are all wondering if you have got stuck behind the cooker and the gale has blown you into the creek, i think 🌩Saving lives in the boatyard 🌪Is three behind🃏
Funny you should say that. Crawling behind the engine is no joke - and getting out again even less of one. No, it's basically that the health issues I had have not quite gone away - but I am confident that medical science will prevail. I have managed to do some work on the heater - including mounting it and fitting the exhaust skin fitting. There will be a video in March - hopefully in the next week or two.
Cheers.
santa mulligan glad your ok alot of liveaboards are putting out extra lines today
Gas is only dangerous, if you aren't aware that it can be.
Very fair point. A lot of people actually don't realise that butane and propane are heavier than air and therefore will not escape from a boat. Also, when the mix between the escaped gas and the air is just right (or just wrong) you can get an explosion with the slightest spark. You see CZcams videos all the time with the canister inside the boat. Scary.
My old gas cooker had got to the end of its life with no spares available - it passed its gas tests OK, but it was only a matter of time before it didn't and I wasn't happy with it - there was also no fine heat control. I also fitted a bubble tester and checked the overall system regularly. But it really was time for something new. I had decided to move away from gas and go to a diesel stove. But it was too much palaver and very expensive. New gas cooker also very expensive. Hence going for the Origo - and that can be dangerous if you do something daft like fill it from the top - especially when hot.
I used to use Hydrogen in a laboratory years ago, which is surprisingly safe handled correctly despite its reputation.
Thanks for the comment.
I have exactly the same stove for the same reasons. Interested to see the heater.
Everyone I have spoken to who has one seems to like them a lot. Heater will be the next two videos. There is no single perfect place to put it. It will be nice to do some work in a warm boat. The electrics at the boatyard is not great and trips out at anything over about 10 amps, so a temporary electric heater is out of the question. Hopefully the diesel heater will not take too long. Cheers.
Hi, I'm wondering why you don't let the stove be gimballed all the time. The shelve underneath seems unnecessary to me.
Good question. The main reason is simply to get some additional food preparation area. So it's more about the shelf on top rather than the one underneath.
Previously I had a gimballed stove that I could lock in place with a board that fitted exactly on the top. It's all a lot more solid if you have a flat surface that doesn't move. There is no easy way to lock the Origo, but quite easy to lower it and use the cover as preparation space.
Also, I tend to only use the gimbal when under way and heeled over. With the old cooker it tended to start swinging when at anchor - it might be different with the Origo.
Cheers, Paul
You probably hate these arms chair bound - why don’t you questions? BUT - why don’t you adapt the cupboard fwd of the stove position to take the fridge rather than losing a whole bench seat? OR fit a drawer type platform under the stove and fix the fridge to it - so you can pull the unit out and then roll it back underneath ‘outa the way’
Not at all - keep the questions coming. And by the way, I love the armchairs you can get on Halberg Rassys - and don't think I didn't consider one for Serenity - seriously.
I think Serenity appears to be bigger in the videos than she is in real life. Although she is 28ft, she has quite big overhangs at either end. This gives a waterline length of only 22ft - space is very tight. I did consider a few different positions for the fridge - including keeping the original one. The Bearmach wouldn't fit under the stove not enough space - but If I ever win the lottery (not that I play it) that is where the watermaker is going - I have a cardboard water maker model to prove it.
The bench seat is actually quite small and is cramped for two people anyway. Some Mirages don't have the 'extra' cupboard at the end of it. If I do need to use it I can put the fridge on the cabin sole and then put the cushions back where they were. The bench on the other side is massive. Cheers.
Just about sailing Thanks for the quick (and witty) response. Space is really hard to visualise especially in a video.
Especially good because you've done it without too much butchery of the existing woodwork - too many people rip the lot out & then proceed to make a pig's ear of replacing it. Can I ask where you bought the sink?
I don't know why this comment has just popped up as 'unanswered' - I thought I did that months ago. Sometimes CZcams does strange things.
The Sink was from B&Q.
Sorry this is so late.
Cheers
Paul
Great stove, hate the fridge , low power microwave and parsley box meals, cooked sous vide, are the way to go ,sink is fab but too big for the boat.i would have kept a small fridge in that corner. The deck under looks terrible a real cockroach corner can u clean it up before the admiral of the fleet spots it. Ran lost all their frozen food mid pac in a freezer like that one
I'm not sure about a microwave - don't the signals from them attract aliens from other planets? That's what I've heard anyway. The sink and worktop are the two most important parts of any kitchen. I got the largest sink I could physically fit in. It will get used a lot.I'm not sure how much I actually need a fridge. I never had a problem without one when I could get fresh stuff daily. But it was sometimes a problem when you could only get a pack of stuff that went off if you didn't refrigerate it. I won't be using it as a freezer.
I have a desiccating de-humidifier which works in the cold that I am running to dry out some of the grimy areas. I though they would be worse. Everything will get a good scrub at some point.
Parsley box meals last for 18months you do not even refrigerate them
I got a new boat now mate
Excellent.
It a teal 22
Could you get the fridge to go on a slide out underneath the stove ??
It's quite a bit too tight. Serenity always looks bigger in the videos than she actually is in real life. Although she's a 28ft boat, she is only 22ft at the waterline. I could have built a bespoke unit - but decided on the 'easier' option.
Why don’t you get a second hand Eberspacher from a truck scrap yard? Also could you turn the gimbal mechanisms around 180 so that the stove went further back?
I had a look at a few reconditioned or second hand Eberspachers. They all looked OK. But to be honest, I think the technology is now so old and basic that the only difference is the electronics in the controls - the heaters themselves haven't changed for years. I will do a couple of videos on the installation, but the reason I went for the heater I did, apart from it being cheap, was that it has a remote control. And if it turns out to be a disaster I can slot an Eberspacher in to the fittings.
Yes, you can turn the gimbals round so that the stove goes further back rather than forward - you would just need to switch sides with the mountings - 180 as you say. I probably didn't explain this well in the video. When you see pictures of the gimbal mechanism it just looks confusing. As soon as you have them in your hands it is clear how clever they are. I wanted mine forward to make more use of the space behind. I though they were expensive at first, but I don't think I could have designed anything better.Cheers
Nice work Paul. Are you going for a Planar heater? They are supposed to be good, although not used one myself.
Hi Mark. I have actually bought one of the Chinese heaters. I think the top end is probably Eberspacher (Germany), then Planar (Russia) then No-Brand (China) - In fact I have gone for a branded Chinese one which cost about £40 more than the cheapest. So, possibly a bit of a risk. But for an all-in price of about £160 I thought it was worth the risk. I will replace all of the ancillary fixtures and fittings - hose clips, exhaust, silencer etc with decent stuff. And if it does go pear-shaped I can simply swap out the entire unit and the fittings will still be the same. I knew someone with an Eberspacher on his boat - it was magic. The complication is where to fit it and how to run all the ducting - still working on that one. Cheers.
-20 at what ambient temperature? You want something that can handle -18 at 35 C...
That is a very good question. I have just checked the user manual. There are two settings, ECO and MAX. It recommends that, "...MAX mode is useful if the ambient temperature is over 30 C". It doesn't actually give an operating temperature range. And also - and this is probably important - it states that the "setting range" is -20 C to 10 C. So, just because you set it to -20 C doesn't necessarily mean it is going to get there. These units seem to be quite new to the market. Let me know if you see anyone doing a full test on them. I don't intend to use it as a freezer, but it would be nice to know. Cheers.
What stove is that ? Sorry buddy,the accent is a bit different from what I'm use to. Tampa, FL
Robert, no problem. The stove is an Origo 3000 which is made by Dometic. Check out the Sailing Uma channel. They switched to one a while back and show it in action in their latest boat tour video.
However... there seems to be a bit of a problem getting hold of Origo stoves at the moment. Some people have said that they've stopped making them. But that seems very odd to me as they are very popular for boats, vans and camping.
Thanks for watching
Cheers
Paul
@@verynearlyaboutsailing8114 That's cool,I appreciate you getting back to me. I listened over,and over,just couldn't make it out. Thanks
Does the fridge have a ventilation grill, it looks like you are blocking airflow to the compressor
It has ventilation grills on either side at the back. It needs about 7cm clearance on either side which is why I have positioned it a bit away from the cabinet. I will also make sure that there is a fixed barrier when I put the (cut down) cushion on the other side. I think the Dometic fridges have grills on the back as well - but this one doesn't. Thanks for making this point. A lot of people completely ignore ventilation clearances - even with household fridges. Thanks for watching.
Just about sailing looks like a good fridge and loads cheaper than the Dometic one I was looking at.
Try typing "Bearmach Fridge" into CZcams. There is an off-roader chap (Donegal Overlander - or something like that) who does a bit of a test on one. Yes, I was saving up for the Dometic one until saw this. It is a bit of a risk as it is effectively unbranded - but Bearmach give a three year warranty, so I guess they have confidence in it.
do you have links to the sink and stove?
I got the sink from B&Q in the UK. If you type 'Romesco sink' into google you should find it. I don't know about availability in other countries. I got the stove from eBay, again just type in 'Origo 3000'. The price of the stove seems to be very variable from very expensive to quite cheap. I ordered mine from Germany in the end. I think it is just a case of tracking different suppliers until you see a good offer. Cheers.
@@verynearlyaboutsailing8114 thanks! I'll check that out