9500rpm and 900hp with Garrett G35-1050! Best single turbo for GT-R?
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- We maxed out our turbo so we needed a new one. Could we make more power without losing drivability? Does the new G35-1050 live up to its name? We install one, then test it on the dyno and with a bunch of racing at Powercruise. If this doesn't make your mind up about the G35, nothing will.
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Hypertune V1 inlet manifold with DBW single
Please...PLEASE make the next change the Hypertune IM/TB combo. Its absolutely one of the biggest contention points as you well know as to what they ACTUALLY do VS the stock plenum.
You can find flow numbers all day, but never any actual real world or back to back dyno numbers. You're in the power range where it should be a great example of if the stock ITBs and Plenum truly do limit the power, and its be nice to see what happens on your tune between Cylinders as far as fuel changes needed (prove how starved #5/6 are in factory form)
I've been asking the same thing for ages, nobody has done a back to back on this but yet again with many other things, do you ever truly see a valid back to back test?. There's quite a few high HP, even in the 1000's RB26's running the ITB's. The only reason I'd delete the ITB's is if needing twin injector rails, or direct port nitrious. I see no other benefit
@@boris9331 the advantages are in idle control, ease of implimenting anti lag strategies, in the case of this car with a sequential box they will be able to implement clutchless downshifting, traction control, cruise control, ease of serviceability, better cylinder balance, lack of worrying about the linkages being correctly balanced.
Yup, Hypertune inlet manifold with DBW!
Keen for the upcoming 1.01 vs 1.21a/r comparison!
Been waiting for this video since I saw you get this 1st in Australia. Great work and great video content
that blonde with the curly hair tho :O
awesemo video!! back to back testing and progression through out the videos! Love it!!
"lots of words about keeping response and being a street car" ..... spends the rest of the video rowing through the gears on a sequential box between 7500-9500 rpm
Someones jealous 😉 the fact is the car is still perfectly capable on the street. I recommend you watch some of the previous videos on the GTW setup being driven on road, it will surprise you. The 500rpm difference on the G35 won’t kill it.
John P we showed roll ons in 1st and 2nd alto what it’s like to come on and a couple or corners to ourselves. We can’t go back and install a stock 5 speed to give another example.
@@MotiveVideo Andrew you make good videos, and I realise this was at least partly driven by a product placement exercise, but taking out the sequential wouldn't change the fact you spend most of your time in this video in the top 2k of rpm range. It would just make the car slower. I'm just saying, given your demonstrated usage, and indeed in my experience what most people's usage is of cars like this, perhaps the next product placement could be a G42-1450 ..... maybe accompanied by the Hypertune manifold you mentioned and some higher lift cams for shits and giggles
Idk about you guys...but if i own a nearly 900hp r32 ..i would be in the red all the time too..sooo Andrew do your thing my friend..sequential or 5 speed..redline or cruise... no one should care..its a great car
This turbo is same as a 6870
Inlet for sure, great video update too, thanks!
Inlet manifold💪🏼
“Max out” the 26 block and then go the striker as the “last” step to see the gains
I would really like to see the back to back of standard itbs vs the single throttle Hypertune plenum. Love your work Andrew!
Great video and update on the Jet
Great video as always
E98 race fuel 1st, no mechanical work involve and 2nd the Hypertune Intake manifold. 3rd the Nitrous and last the stroker motor.
Great video! Cheers 🤙
damn thats some ballsy passing with a 100km + delta within 2m of the car
The crazy thing is when you realize that the other cars on the straight are WOT, not just casually strolling and you’re just walking them as if they are standing still, my mind is fucking blown!
I wanna see some street driving! But also, more videos on this car. I love it!
quality video! really enjoyed it
Incredible.. 🔥🔥💯 Cant wait to build mine! 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Looks like I’ll be sticking to my Precision Turbo! 👍👍👍
Such an awesome car Andrew!
great video Andrew!
Yes!!! Been waiting for this video for soo long. Cars an animal Hawkins
I hear a wild KYLE. 1320 for life.
in my opinion the first i would change is by far the intake manifold and the throttle body because more horsepower are going to came with the same amount of boost.keep on the project it is great!!!
Another great vid
Great video mate. Should just do the plenum next and do a back to back comparison of stock vs hypertune
Manifold first, love to see how much of a difference the change in breathing dynamics makes.
Definitely next step where you can manage a meaningful comparison is the intake manifold. That will have the single greatest influence on driveability etc, especially going from 80s nissan idle control to dbw. Also you can show the effect it has on response from the drivers seat.
The G series turbos are badass. I have a twin turbo with 2 G25-660 turbos.
Which mod next? Stroker kit, the other mods can then be sized/tuned for the higher capacity engine. Loving your work :D
Hypertune and big single throttle 1st,should flow better,either way that rb26 rips&near on 900hp is serious power.love the videos please keep em coming👊💪
Would love to see a hypertune intake just to see the difference
Yeah it's going good 👍 the sequential is a game changer in its self.
Mods hmm trying fuels before bottom end. As per dollars and sequenced as per cost to change would be interesting.
Inlet manifold for sure, it would be good to see the comparison. Like many people, we have built out cars very similar to your setup. The single throttle body manifold is the next on the list but I would say losing the throttle response from the itb’s would break my heart
Man I'd Love to see what you guys end up doing with the old mazda mx-6 gt you showed some time about.
Another awesome video 👍 your mrs didnt look phased by the power. Mine screams in a standard power Evo lol
Driveway Developments she’s pretty used to it now. She’s been co driver at Rallysprints and Canyon runs in Supercars in America.
Get the stroker engine built first as that will be your biggest hurdle, then you're likely going to want
water/methanol so as to compare a more apples to apples from not changing fuel source yet. I would go to E98 after you test what it's going to make on water/methanol. From there, hypertune manifold and throttle body once the sucker is maxed out on boost and fueling potential to really test if the manifold swap is that much better and makes more power or if it's not quite as good as initially lead on to be. I personally would not do nitrous just because it's basically only good for very limited and specialized situations. It would freaking awesome to have but would probably only be used in straight up drag races.
This car is a monster. Good work guys!
I would just leave it. It's beautiful and 850hp is a perfect number. Did you ever think you would own one like this back when you were doing the hot4s. Magazine? Stoked
I would go the Hypertune manifold as I feel this would be good data vs the stock one.
We all know a rb30 will make more power and torque with better spool.
nos will make extra power easy as you by the shot sizes.
love this!
I was about to pull the trigger on a GTX3582, now I'm glad I waited. How soon do you expect to test the 1.01 A/R housing? I don't plan on going with a RB30 or a 2.8l kit
How about trying the Hypertune V1 inlet manifold with DBW single throttle first? That would be a great first upgrade. 😃
He would be mad not to.
I'd love to see it in an order in what I would do it myself as well:
-Pump E85 with Water/Meth and later straight meth injection
-Race Gas
-Single throttle body
-Stroker bittom end
Also would live to see the stroker bottom end on pump e85+meth later on, to see what the car could do in "street care trim"
RB30 is love!
I would love to see what a stock RB30 crank can take, anyone have any idea? Next upgrades I would like to see done to this GTR is the water meth and the new intake manifold. Great content Motive! I have fallen in love with GTR's and one day I will own 1 hopefully.
So sick 👌🇦🇺
Impressive response on small cube engine. Thinking to use this on a 231ci v6 manual car. Wondering if it'll choke a little early due to much more cubes...
Hyperune plenum, then water meth, then Nos, then 3.2L.
Great video.
I think the Hypertune manifold will give impressive gains. With your current turbo setup I bet you could see as much as 30-40hp just from smoothing out the airflow into the head.
Smaller exhaust housing ... that's the info we want !
Hyper tune inlet, would also like to see back pressure.. you guys should install a sensor to monitor it
Car sounds awesome!!! Def would go water/meth injection first then go to the hypertune intake manifold with dbw
What were the IAT's like up at 35psi? If it's pulling timing with corrections up there then you could try water meth just to keep the ECU happy. I'm not sure you will get any gains as far as max advance over the e85 though. Depends if you are already able to reach MBT with the ethanol it has. I'm seeing less than ambient temps in my N/A GT with straight meth injection and 6degree's more advance than running 98 (knock limited without) WM injection activated. Just disable the ECT corrections for a run and hit 900wheel. 😏
When you hear Kyle in the background lol "ohhh my god that was clooose"
You’ll crack the 900 with the Hypertune manifold 👍
Hypertune with DBW. Would be cool to see the gains from just that. Considering that seems to be the first engine upgrade everyone does now.
I made 848whp in a dynojet with my 2018 civic type r using that turbo it took 41 psi but its a crazy powerful turbo.
My suggestion in the order of things are inlet manifold, e98, meth, then 3.2(knowing this will change the entire characteristics of the car). That just sounds like it makes some sorta sense to me.
I think the best order to go about the mods would be as follows based off of horsepower return and installation difficulty;
- Water/Meth
- Nitrous oxide
- E98 fuel
- Hypertune manifold
- RB30
Water/Meth injection would be easy to add, and would be good to see how much it helps a turbo set up at maxed out boost.
Doesn’t TiAL make a divided rear housing for the G35/1050? Might be interesting to see a comparison between a divided housing and stock V band.
bottom end 1st, so the 3.2ltr stroker kit 1st, that way its is ready for whatever you throw at it :-)
What about greddy high boost intake? The one, that runs with stock multi throtlles
been looking for G35 results, am not disapointed. seems like its up almost another 60-70hp at the wheels.
in regards to small things to get more power, have you tried a capacitor type spark plug or brisk silver plugs? they tend to work very well under high pressure, seen significant gains for a cheap easy mod, next thing would be making sure you're getting enough power from the coilpacks, optimising the ignition system could see you net another 20-30hp up top, i know the system you have on there is pretty good but maybe try playing with it a bit, or switch to a 16v or 24v system, will definitely see results with that.
then go for mechincal changes like intake manifold etc
I’m going to put this on my 3.5L v6 street car, plan on making 600whp
Why not the v2 manifold with staged injection? For sure the manifold and a 90mm tbw setup. Awesome video. Keep up the great work.
Nics Shop V2 is double the price by the time it’s installed due to all the new lines needed and radiator etc it’s also bigger runners that just aren’t needed. We don’t need staged injection either.
RB30 block.It`s a no brainer to start off with the right foundation.
Inlet 1st I'm guessing a sizable gain from that alone with better flow up top
Water/Meth seems like the go for more power. Would love to see someone over here do a video on it and the setup
My experiences up in Canada are water/meth is the way we go for power but that’s because we don’t have much if any E85 stations.
Start with the hypertune!
Try a turbo blanket. it will make the turbo threshold low in the rav range because your keeping more heat in the turbo housing
Motive - awesome video as always . Please do water/meth , would be very interesting to see ;)
Keep up the great work
Yeah we don’t really use water/ meth in Australia
I use water/meth. It can and mostly does work very well. Depends on your application as always.
Well done on the new setup.
No doubt these new G series turbos are the business.
But I always wondered why from a viewer's POV (I can't see what happens behind the scenes) the BW EFR turbos seemed to be ignored even though they are well regarded for great response and output.
I think I know why now.
Greco Conduris we cant afford to buy every brand or turbo and compare. We’re simply not big enough channel to g at the view saw need to find the cars so Andrew has to self fund and get help. We still test properly and get the numbers from our cars but we don’t hide were sponsored by Garrett
Either way. Numbers don’t lie
Motive Video oh please don’t take it as a criticism. The Garrett sponsorship wasn’t something I picked up on until this episode. Probably my fault. It’s was just that moment all the pieces fitted for me. Thanks for taking the time to reply. And keep up the great content.
Good to see that gold livery gone 👌🏼
What have you done intercooler wise when you raised those boost levels?
In your opinion, How about the g30 , do you think it's gonna give better respond tha the gtw ?
Here's a quick question, have you considered installing an HKS V-Cam?
Do the stroker kit last keep pushing the 2.6
Do the inlet manifold. Do the 3.2 very last
think manifold air density, a little more spark lead, and methanol injection is all you need to go over 915 hp
also if the EGT's are all the same the intake is good to go
RB30 3.2 first mod! 😊
hi andrew,
cool video, awesome car. When does it come on boost with the 1.21 rear?
Building my rb30 single cam and going 1.21 rear aswel on the g35-1050hp, thoughts?
thanks
Its making boost from 2000 and all in by 5000. RB30 will be very responsive with it
Water/Meth would be interesting, not sure it would make that much difference on E85 though. Works awesome on 98.
I feel like a smaller rear housing would make almost the same power but will better spool.
Would you ever consider HKS Vcam? Move the power and torque back earlier and do the Hypertune. Always killer Andrew. Always killer footage and tech. This is definitely future world!
This is a common question Andrew, could we pls get a answer- thanks
@@JH-jo9wt The problem with HKS Vcam is HKS don’t offer aggressive camshafts, I know one shop that offers it with their own custom camshaft to work with the HKS Vcam and the results that I’ve seen are awesome. The catch is they only offer their custom camshaft for the HKS Vcam if you have them build you an engine.
@@wd8005 Why can't one just send the Vcam camshafts off to be reground to different specs?
@@lutherblissett9070 You can do it but as far as I know, No one really likes to go that way and they just pick whatever hks vcam has or don’t bother with hks vcam at all.
@@wd8005 I heard of people modifying Vcam to get more cam angle variation out of it but not of people regrinding the lobes. I thought most people just avoided Vcam because of cost.
Atleast you chopped them barras.
It sounds a little close to material surge on the dyno runs but doesn't get hung up with surge on the cruise footage which is good. Wonder if a less restrictive plenum/manifold would be enough to potentially reduce engine/pump restriction and move the airflow further away from potential surge. Car is an utter rocket.
Martin Rodger loading up the car on the dyno and big boost can lead to surge
The four port boost solenoid often makes it sound like surge as well some times
Motive Video True, dynos can artificially load high compared to the road as not much is going to hold a 800+hp R32 back on the tarmac. Not like you’re towing trailers up hills with it anytime soon! Amazing how close Garret has taken the compressor/turbine balance on these G series turbos like little 660hp rated T25 frames: crazy stuff. The Dyno shows how close it is and then the actual cruise pulls shows it is money.
Ok, i'm sold on this turbo. I think this is what I will be getting for mine.
1. E98
2. Water/Meth
3. Hypertune Intake w/ DBW
4. Nitrous
5. RB32
Hi, nice car. I was wondering which intake manifold you were using on this video. Thanks
Stock intake
U should do the water/ Methanol kit
I am for intake and other camshafts!!!
Do the hypertune manifold guys.
Post back to back power runs from the GTW and the G turbo so we can see how the power curve compares
V LT they’re in the video
what cams are u using on that set up ??
Hyper tune manifold and race fuel would be good to see.
great video andrew what street tyres are you running?
Micheal Kirwan Advan AD08 265/35R18 great tyre ( that I pay for, not sponsored)
Do the inlet manifold first, then the stroker then the nitrous
That green lambo is on carsales now.