I have some ZIPP 404s that I bought new in 2003. I only used them on race days, so I never really got a feel for them. The past year, I started using all my race gear as my everyday gear (considering it’s almost 20 years old, might as well enjoy it). Saw a random video somewhere about balancing wheels and decided to check my ZIPPs. They were off by a lot. I balanced them and now the bike feels smooth and fast, like I can roll forever. During your spindown of the rear wheel, the bike was bouncing up and down, which is a sign the rear wheel isn’t balanced. Might want to take it off the bike (so there’s no chain friction) and see if it’s balanced. Same with the front wheel, take it off the bike and check it. Disk brakes on cars drag a tiny amount, that could cause your wheel to look like it’s balanced even when it’s not.
Great review, thanks! One thing; You can't really conclude anything about the wheels when they spin when the bearings aren't loaded. Only way to test is to do a test where you roll down a hill without pedaling and see how long it takes (on the same tires, same psi, same system weight, etc)
I think is better to measure your actual seat high and see the máximum and minimum high possible on the Bike. Maybe on the large size seatpost is very deep on the frame and on the medium size your seat high is possible with more seatpost out. I asked on Canyon and they recommend Medium size for me 186cm on the ultimate. I do not have the Bike yet
My Tarmac is a 58. The large Canyon is a match for seat post height but a touch shorter on reach. That being said, the handlebars are lower but more comfortable as I say in the video.
Super nice looking bike. Got the 303 Firecrest and the hubs are a bit sticky too (identical ZR1 hubs). Same behavior as yours…no pendulum motion on the front wheel etc. Hope they will loosen up over time. Otherwise I am really happy with the Zipps.
I haven't taken it on Pilot Mountain (NC) yet but around my house, it climbs really well. The bottom bracket stiffness with the thru-bolt connection for the wheels sends all the power to the tires. It's not light though.
The BB86 bottom bracket wasn't designed to house a 30 mm spindle. This forces your bearings to be undersized, which is not a good thing for performance or longevity. Great bike but people should get the Shimano version... with 24 mm spindle.
Hi. I have the same exact model as yours. I noticed a small play when I move the seat post to forward and back and some creaking sound. But when Im out riding, the sound disappears. I applied the required grease for both lower clamp and upper rubber collar. Do I need to be worried? Im thinking of adding electrical tape or some thin heavy duty plastic to act as a shim. Thoughts?
I have not had any issues with the seat post since I learned about the the technique for installation as seen in my other video. You should have a little play as that gives us back some comfort on the road. I've seen others use tape but Canyon doesn't recommend it.
Ken, I was also looking at the Ribble, exact same model. While I have no issues with the Ribble, I chose the Canyon due to it's presence in America. I don't think Ribble has a strong North American presence and was worried about service. Otherwise, the bikes themselves are very similar in style.
The Canyon Aeroroad is a awesome bike however the customer service is worst I ever experienced in my life. SERIOUSLY!!!! The customer service is awful.
Hi, quick question. I’m looking to buy a new bike and at my local store i have 2 options. The Bmc team machine slr5 or the canyon aeroad cf sl 8. I’m new to the sport and i have a hard time deciding. Price wise they’re pretty much the same. I’ll ride more solo, no races, ill put between 100 to 200milles/week. Are they similar? Thank you
Hi Paul I am considering buying this bike. I was wondering how tall you are and what size you ended up buying? I am 71inches (5ft 10in) tall and I am looking at the medium. What do you think?
Will you recommend this Bike to someone that will need a bike to do street rides with some climbs smalls???? And how tall are you and what size is the bike ? Just want info to order one
I admit since i ride a flat bar i can’t go back to a roand, a round bar is so anoying in comparision to the canyon cockpits, the handlebar on the top has so more relaxed grip. The canyons like to bit more sitting in front of the bike, makes the handling so crisp and with lot of confidance. But with little to non pressure on the wrists.
Kelly, I'm 6'1 and 34 inseam. I fit the bike pretty well and the seat is not too high or too low. Make sure you input your info in the Canyon website for their suggestion of size.
I have had some creaking at the insertion point of the saddle but the supplied Canyon grease is taking care of it. I'm not sure if this is a lifetime thing??
@@paulbonner8874 you mean that use the grease,creaking could be absolutely solved? BTW,in my opinion,grease is running cost (volatility etc.),so it maybe a lifetime issue(maintenance).
It appears that creaking could be solved. Canyon recommends re-greasing the seatpost once a year but I already had to do it, so it seems to be an ongoing maintenance issue and I'm trying to find where I can get more of the grease that Canyon recommends.
Quentin, I'm 6"-1 with a 34" inseam and yes, I did use their tool for fitting. I would like to see how an XL fits, but am very happy with the L. Medium would have been too small.
@@paulbonner8874 I am 6”3 with a 35 inseam and I have an XL frame on my Canyon endurance and it feel a bit long. The tool states I should have purchased a L two years ago and I didn’t. So this time I will get a L in my new Aeroad.
@@jost2404 I purchased the L and it fits perfectly. Canyon runs big so if you are between sizes go for the smaller one. I went to the canyon show room here in Germany and tried all of their bikes and sizes. I recommend the L.
@@roborovski008 It is very specific to Canyon. I don't know if anyone else will make a compatible stem. Totally different mounting method than standard, but it is also super comfortable and one of my favorite parts of the bike. The height is adjustable by 15mm.
I use Bioshield T-9 on my chain, so kinda. I've used it for years and like how it keeps the chain lubricated without being oily. When it dries, it does add a wax like coating on the chain.
This is my first road czcams.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and I have taken it out a handful of times and so far it is exceeding all of my expectations. I didn’t want to break the bank on a first bike and the herd is a great option for getting a fast bike with reliable components. I plan on riding this bike for many years to come. Thank you Sava!
Agreed! The most hidden surprise on this bike is the crank. I have no explanation except supply issues, but what a crank! With it and the built in power meter, the increase in price from the last SLX 8 is somewhat justified.
It has to be a nice bike when someone rides a a 1000 miles within the first month of unboxing it. Glad for you.
Honest straight forward reviews. 👍
Thanks!
@@paulbonner8874среди миллиона человек у вас по велоспорту хоть 6 место есть?
got to love that freehub noise :) good looking bike
I have the same Zipps with about 2500 miles. They will spin better and quiet down significantly with more miles. More zoom, zoom and less noise...
Great review, nice bike. Thank you. 😊
Stout ride. Thinking of getting it. Thanks!
Highly Recommended!!!
Never heard of your channel before today. Good review
Awesome, thank you!
@@paulbonner8874А где гарантия что дед мастер спорта в 50 лет вас не объедает на кольнаго с40 из стали?
I have some ZIPP 404s that I bought new in 2003. I only used them on race days, so I never really got a feel for them. The past year, I started using all my race gear as my everyday gear (considering it’s almost 20 years old, might as well enjoy it). Saw a random video somewhere about balancing wheels and decided to check my ZIPPs. They were off by a lot. I balanced them and now the bike feels smooth and fast, like I can roll forever. During your spindown of the rear wheel, the bike was bouncing up and down, which is a sign the rear wheel isn’t balanced. Might want to take it off the bike (so there’s no chain friction) and see if it’s balanced. Same with the front wheel, take it off the bike and check it. Disk brakes on cars drag a tiny amount, that could cause your wheel to look like it’s balanced even when it’s not.
You're right about the balance. I saw that in the back wheel also. I'll look into getting it balanced.
Great review, thanks! One thing; You can't really conclude anything about the wheels when they spin when the bearings aren't loaded. Only way to test is to do a test where you roll down a hill without pedaling and see how long it takes (on the same tires, same psi, same system weight, etc)
Thanks for the info. I'm the first to admit, I'm not being scientific about this and on the road, the wheels roll nicely.
Great vid. Have one showing up in a couple of days (di2) so I was a bit nervous that you might have shared some bad news! Glad you’re happy with it.
how do you like the di2?
@@CVonC-qz7nc couldn’t be happier with the bike or the di2. Love it.
Thanks for the review, good job! You say you chose a large frame and are happy with it, what height / inseam ore you? Thanks
I am 6'1 and have 34" inseam. I entered my info in Canyon's website and they picked large.
Penny spotted at 1:48
great review.
Wow that's road bike is my dream road bike! I hope someday i get that's road bike!😉😁
Bike is a beauty!
Thanks! I'm enjoying it a lot.
Thanks for your review! Just curious what’s your height and did you follow canyons size calculator? Im in between sizes M and a L im 6’1
Benjamin, I'm also 6"1 and 34 inseam. I think you're a large also.
I think is better to measure your actual seat high and see the máximum and minimum high possible on the Bike. Maybe on the large size seatpost is very deep on the frame and on the medium size your seat high is possible with more seatpost out.
I asked on Canyon and they recommend Medium size for me 186cm on the ultimate. I do not have the Bike yet
Thanks for the review! You said you got the large, what size tarmac did you have?
My Tarmac is a 58. The large Canyon is a match for seat post height but a touch shorter on reach. That being said, the handlebars are lower but more comfortable as I say in the video.
@@paulbonner8874 Thanks Paul. I think you've convinced me to order one!
Super nice looking bike. Got the 303 Firecrest and the hubs are a bit sticky too (identical ZR1 hubs). Same behavior as yours…no pendulum motion on the front wheel etc. Hope they will loosen up over time. Otherwise I am really happy with the Zipps.
Nice
Just heads up to everyone I had the same bike putting the wrong grease on the Seatpost will make noise just make sure you put the right grease
Beautiful white color, very nice and very helpful review.
So... how is it on climbs?
I haven't taken it on Pilot Mountain (NC) yet but around my house, it climbs really well. The bottom bracket stiffness with the thru-bolt connection for the wheels sends all the power to the tires. It's not light though.
@@paulbonner8874 Hi Paul, thanks for reply, appreciated it. Close to buying the model with 105
The BB86 bottom bracket wasn't designed to house a 30 mm spindle. This forces your bearings to be undersized, which is not a good thing for performance or longevity. Great bike but people should get the Shimano version... with 24 mm spindle.
Thats a pretty bike!! Wheels look dope as well, great upgrade.
#RobbArmstrong
Thanks for sharing. Have you had any issues with the hookless thing on the ZIPPs wheels?
These Zipp wheels are not hookless. Standard hooked rims for me.
Hi. I have the same exact model as yours. I noticed a small play when I move the seat post to forward and back and some creaking sound. But when Im out riding, the sound disappears. I applied the required grease for both lower clamp and upper rubber collar. Do I need to be worried? Im thinking of adding electrical tape or some thin heavy duty plastic to act as a shim. Thoughts?
I have not had any issues with the seat post since I learned about the the technique for installation as seen in my other video. You should have a little play as that gives us back some comfort on the road. I've seen others use tape but Canyon doesn't recommend it.
I’m totally looking to buy a new aero bike. I’m looking at the Canyon vs Ribble Ultra SLR. Which would you go with? Just looking for odd opinions.
Ken, I was also looking at the Ribble, exact same model. While I have no issues with the Ribble, I chose the Canyon due to it's presence in America. I don't think Ribble has a strong North American presence and was worried about service. Otherwise, the bikes themselves are very similar in style.
The Canyon Aeroroad is a awesome bike however the customer service is worst I ever experienced in my life. SERIOUSLY!!!! The customer service is awful.
I've had an excellent experience with Canyon service. The answer the phone quickly and are willing to listen to any issues or questions that I have.
Hi, quick question. I’m looking to buy a new bike and at my local store i have 2 options. The Bmc team machine slr5 or the canyon aeroad cf sl 8. I’m new to the sport and i have a hard time deciding. Price wise they’re pretty much the same. I’ll ride more solo, no races, ill put between 100 to 200milles/week. Are they similar? Thank you
Hi Paul I am considering buying this bike. I was wondering how tall you are and what size you ended up buying? I am 71inches (5ft 10in) tall and I am looking at the medium. What do you think?
John, sorry for late reply. This is a Large and I'm 6'1 with 34 inseam. I think the medium sounds perfect for you.
Will you recommend this Bike to someone that will need a bike to do street rides with some climbs smalls???? And how tall are you and what size is the bike ? Just want info to order one
My bike is large and I'm 6'1 with 34" inseam. I highly recommend the bike, even for larger climbs. There are different builds available also.
@@paulbonner8874 thank you very much
I admit since i ride a flat bar i can’t go back to a roand, a round bar is so anoying in comparision to the canyon cockpits, the handlebar on the top has so more relaxed grip. The canyons like to bit more sitting in front of the bike, makes the handling so crisp and with lot of confidance. But with little to non pressure on the wrists.
Well said and I completely agree.
캐니언 구입하기가 하늘에 별따기보다 어렵네요. 갖고 싶다.
Could I ask how tall and your inseam are? I think you said that you ride a large. I'm in the middle between a medium or large. Thx
Kelly, I'm 6'1 and 34 inseam. I fit the bike pretty well and the seat is not too high or too low. Make sure you input your info in the Canyon website for their suggestion of size.
@@paulbonner8874 You ride a large is correct? I'm 6,1 and 32inseam. They say medium.. 👍
Kelly, I ride a large. Fits great
don't your seatpost or saddle's rail have any noise when cycling?
I have had some creaking at the insertion point of the saddle but the supplied Canyon grease is taking care of it. I'm not sure if this is a lifetime thing??
@@paulbonner8874 you mean that use the grease,creaking could be absolutely solved?
BTW,in my opinion,grease is running cost (volatility etc.),so it maybe a lifetime issue(maintenance).
It appears that creaking could be solved. Canyon recommends re-greasing the seatpost once a year but I already had to do it, so it seems to be an ongoing maintenance issue and I'm trying to find where I can get more of the grease that Canyon recommends.
Did you sell this bike to TPC?
How tall are you and did you use there tool to pick your size
Quentin, I'm 6"-1 with a 34" inseam and yes, I did use their tool for fitting. I would like to see how an XL fits, but am very happy with the L. Medium would have been too small.
@@paulbonner8874 I am 6”3 with a 35 inseam and I have an XL frame on my Canyon endurance and it feel a bit long. The tool states I should have purchased a L two years ago and I didn’t. So this time I will get a L in my new Aeroad.
Hi, I am 185 CM and a L (56) fits me very well.
@@quentinpollard5173 how is the L ? Iam exactly your size and dont know what to pick.
@@jost2404 I purchased the L and it fits perfectly. Canyon runs big so if you are between sizes go for the smaller one. I went to the canyon show room here in Germany and tried all of their bikes and sizes. I recommend the L.
is it compatible with third party handlebar/stem? Thanks.
Great question and at this time, the answer is no. Canyon uses a one-piece handlebar/stem.
@@paulbonner8874 so if i were to get a separate stem and handlebar, it wouldnt work eh ?
@@roborovski008 It is very specific to Canyon. I don't know if anyone else will make a compatible stem. Totally different mounting method than standard, but it is also super comfortable and one of my favorite parts of the bike. The height is adjustable by 15mm.
No.
I mean, I am answering the question on this gentleman’s t-shirt. Otherwise- very nice bike.
Lol. Check out Michigan Mountain Mayhem
Do you wax your chain?
I use Bioshield T-9 on my chain, so kinda. I've used it for years and like how it keeps the chain lubricated without being oily. When it dries, it does add a wax like coating on the chain.
This is my first road czcams.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and I have taken it out a handful of times and so far it is exceeding all of my expectations. I didn’t want to break the bank on a first bike and the herd is a great option for getting a fast bike with reliable components. I plan on riding this bike for many years to come. Thank you Sava!
One question: Do you race?
No racing but lots of fast group rides and competitive centuries
Ouch, that saddle bag….
What are other options? I would love a bag down below my bottles but can’t find it anywhere.
Force 12? That's a Red chain ring and crank.
Agreed! The most hidden surprise on this bike is the crank. I have no explanation except supply issues, but what a crank! With it and the built in power meter, the increase in price from the last SLX 8 is somewhat justified.
@@paulbonner8874 What? You got it as a free upgrade? Damn that's lucky.
Also sehr schon 🚲
Wie viel kostet wenn ich fragen darf kann jemand mich helfen
Don’t clamp your bike stand on the top tube ! Damages carbon
Those Hubs are horrible. Very draggy. Had the Zipp FC 303 on the same bike, send those back. I'm never buying zipp wheels again
What's the point of a review if this bike just doesn't exist in stock 😭
Your aero wheels need to be broken in? Yeah. They say you need a few hundred miles to soften the carbon😂
Don’t clamp your bike stand on the top tube ! Damages carbon