best review on this bike, very detailed and approachable. Most reviewers focus so much on rehashing all the specs vs giving us a more personal review. It felt like a friend telling you how he likes his bike, instead of a salesman trying to sell you a bike.
I have a Gen 2 I purchased a few months ago, identical spec to this one. I decided not to wait for this because of the revised geo. I liked how low I could get with those reach/stack numbers. Great bike coming off a Pina F10, which was also a great bike, but I actually prefer the Canyon.
Yeah, Canyon clearly made the decision to target more of the mainstream market with the geometry revisions here. That's probably the right move in the grand scheme of things, but it will undoubtedly disappoint the minority of people for whom the old setup worked well. I personally am hoping Canyon will eventually release a set of drops with a more traditional bend and more aggressive reach and drop, but I'm not holding my breath.
Really a great review and initial impressions. I thought the cockpit design was awesome, especially for the adjustability, but the need for a special tool is a bummer. Sweet bike.
What's the minimum saddle height on this xs size before the seatpost bottom out on the clamp? I am 167cm/ 76 inseam and right between the 2xs and xs sizes.
@6:47 Good discussion about the seat post. The design also means you cannot clamp the seatpost into a bike stand. You need either the Silca Hirobel or a BB-front-axle bike stand.
I agree with you on the front wheel depth. I have no idea why manufacturers can't figure out that heavier riders can control a deeper front wheel but lighter riders would appreciate a more shallow rim and not spec the same wheel across all sizes. I bet if they had someone who road an xs on the design team they'd have worked that out.
I've been riding different S Works Venge's since 2012 and just sold them to get this. This bike outshines them by miles! Price like James said for DI2 equivalent is $3K less expensive!!!
What about the wheels. According to my information there are not the latest generation of DT Swiss wheels. Question is when is Canyon doing a model change and is delivering the Aeroad with the new wheels?
Great Great review. Congrats. Quick question. According to Canyon this geometry is more relax than previous one. Do you think it comes close from the ultimate? Could this bike serve not only as aerobike? Question from someone that can only afford one bike.
The new geometry is now closer to the Ultimate, but the Ultimate is still slightly more relaxed than the latest Aeroad. I guess the answer to your question depends on what exactly you want to use this "one bike" for, but I'd probably suggest taking a very close look at the stack and reach numbers for both the Ultimate and Aeroad models in your size and then go from there.
it'd be helpful it you told us just how tall you are...not just, "I'm not that short". If the sizing is a bit off what we're used to and Canyon being a direct to consumer brand; this is a CRITICAL data point for the community. Excellent review by the way. Love the details and weights.
I'm 1.73m (5' 8"). Good point about the sizing, but that's perhaps a topic for a more in-depth discussion. So-called "T-shirt" sizing setups have always varied more among different companies than it should. I ride a XS in Canyon, but a small in many other brands, and a medium in others. Ultimately, what everyone needs to do is to look at the actual geometry figures.
@@jameshuang4205 sorry to get too personal but may I have your inseam please? And 5.8 isn’t that taller than 173 cm? I’m looking at getting an aeroad and at 175,5 cm and an inseam of roughly 85 cm Canyon is advising me to go for a size S. A frame size I’m familiar with as I’ve owned a couple of canyons before but I’ve always felt that they are a little long in the reach. Anyways, have a great day!
@@MrHenryhalm I don't know my inseam off the top of my head, but my saddle height is about 693 mm if that's helpful. I have relatively short legs for my height.
@CyclingTips Hi James. Please, can you tell me what´s the size of the frame on the video and your height? Just to have an idea. thank you very much. Great review!!!
Thanks Ander, I also have the same questions, I am 5'8" with a 30" inseam, according to Canyon I should order a Xsmall. I am very curious what an xsmall build looks like
Thank you James! This is by far the best review out there. You mentioned that the bike ran big which really caught my attention. I'm curious to know your height and how you felt on the XS. I'm 174cm with 77cm inseam. I fall between the XS and S.. Wondering which direction to go.
If can I only Have one bike for regular rides , may be dona local race some times , can this be the only Bike do it all for a regular guy that use it for exercise and pleasure rides?
@@bmmaia81 I'm 173cm and 76.2cm inseam, Canyon suggested size xsmall for me. I would also love to know if the stock stems fit, my stem is 90mm but I feel like 80mm would fit better
The Aeroad is KOM a hunting beast. Light, comfortable, FAST. Ready to go out of the box with top-spec wheels (DTSwiss 65mm) and tires (GP5000)... except it ships with el-cheapo butyl inner tubes. Change out immediately! The rear butyl tube in mine blew a seam at 80 psi; I've never seen a tube blow a seam before. Oh well, install latex tube and forget about it.
Hello, I would like to know who would encourage me to choose my best size in the canyon aero CF SLX 8 Di2, I am 1.75 cm inseam 80 cm, according to the test of my position I have a size 52 bike, and I want to know in cayon a 52 is : XS or S I need your help and the best advice before buying it, which of the two sizes based on my measurements would be better and more comfortable on the bike with XS or SMALL???
Is there any disc bike size small under 7kg? If I was to spend that much amount on a bike I want it to be under 7kg. How much aero a frame is I cannot tell but I can definitely feel it on the climbs if it's lighter.
Aero road bikes are already awfully good, so I'd be surprised to see any huge leaps forward until the UCI rule changes go into effect. Even then, though, engineers will still want to balance other characteristics like weight and ride quality, which will be increasingly difficult with more aggressive tube cross-sections.
@@AJHillis That would be a more complicated application, of course, but I'm looking forward to Canyon implementing this design over a wider range of products, no question.
@@georgpollath6812 These new DT wheels -www.bikeradar.com/news/dt-swiss-arc-dicut-1100-1400/ For the wireless Di2 on the other hand, Shimano hasn't revealed them yet, but there has been leaks from professionals using them.
It's from Canyon: www.canyon.com/en-us/gear/accessories/bottle-cages-and-bottles/bottle-cages/canyon-sf-bottle-cage/9100091.html?dwvar_9100091_pv_farbe=BK%2FWH
Stupid question to everyone commenting here. How accurate is Canyon sizing tab ? I’m 6 feet tall with 34 inch inseam and it is suggesting a size MED. Just want to get feedback from you all before making such a big purchase.
I hate Cannyon engineers!! They made a fantastic bike that whould easily be my favourite yet... they just destroyed my lust when I saw the press fit bb. And worst when I saw that I whould have to dismount that bb every time I whould need to access the Di2 battery! It's just that I'm allready a Di2 user and allthough I like Etap I don't want to change everything now and in my opinion this bike is only viable in Etap configuration or if you are a pro with a team of mechanics (wich must hate this also). The thing is that it happened allready to me twice having the battery twice completly dead. The second time I allready had a spare one and in a few minutes I was riding. With this bike I recomemd that ypu buy the press fit tool and good luck
Handlebar design benefits Canyon more than the consumer. Most experienced riders know what bar width they like and rarely change it... it's the stem length that most people experiment with, especially on a new bike, and that's sadly what's not adjustable.
@@raphaeltiziani7476 What is the stack/reach of your current frame? You run a 120 on that setup, not a blanket statement 120 length like your preference to 38 bars. We could also get technical on reach, drop, and flare measurements too...often omitted from the literature. I'd wager most brands do make a 120/38 (and other odd sizes) to suit the desires of their sponsored riders, they just choose not to make them publicly available.
You're perhaps not incorrect there, although I'd argue that there is still a benefit to the consumer in the sense that this makes it more likely that buyers will be able to get a stem length and handlebar width that they want.
James Huang How solid do the handlebars feel? I’d be worried about 75-85kg sprinters ripping those things up with 30-second sprints over 1000 watt with peaks around 1600-2000.
How can most of the reviewers say, that it is noticable faster, if we just talk about a little few watts (maybe 4-5W less as mentioned) at 45km/h. Seems more that it "feels" fast than it is really is?! Is there someone who can explain me that? #no front
One point of critic : The lenght of the seatpost, for a biker with longer legs it won't fit . 2XL for > 196 the said, I am 193 and it won't fit. 3 cm extra will suit more riders.
Early comment - great handlebar design that makes it real easy to pack for transport. Almost final comment - this will be real hard to pack up to send back to Canyon..... :-)
only tarmac isn't aero bike so you're comparing apples and oranges ---- if you want apples and apples canyon ultimate CF evo Disc 10. SL is 650 g lighter then Tarmac SL 7 ... and 3 to 4 k cheaper ....
@书中自有黄金屋 Tarmac replaced the Venge which was one of the best aero bikes - this would not have happened if the new Tarmac wasn't at least as aero as the venge.
Telling consumers how fast the bike without the rider is deceptive af bordering on junk science. It’s a dope bike & believe in the newest carbon tech etc. but they don’t have to stretch the marketing that far. It’s a matter of the fastest athletes on the planet taking these bikes to the next level with their natural human ability. Soon come.
To hold 45 kph I need to be pushing north of 400W, so the aero savings are around 1% vs my current Aeroad. If I was that desperate for Watts I'd wear a roadsuit, Further, why is more stiffer better? There's essentially no energy loss due to frame flex because the twisting motion of the BB is all returned into the chain - the right amount of stiffness for a bike is largely personal preference and frankly speaking, the contradiction of stiffer frame (but also more compliant), more aero frame (but also wider front tire) is just a messy set of contradictions.
How are we not getting 5kg mass production bike, if every new bike is supposed to be lighter, faster and stiffer year by year... something must be wrong with the numbers or it's all a dream...
Canyon really missed the mark on the geometry. WHY the hell did they spec a 73,5° seat tube angle for an XS and 2XS frames???!! Should be greater than 75° for people with shorter femurs. Thumbs down to Canyon.
How often do you adjust the headset preloading on your rides? I've never ever done it, never heard of anyone else done it...so why would you feel the need to bring that tool with you?
NO THANKS BRUH! I mean this bike look like shit... heavy and very slugish looking bike... disc brake bike🤮 marketing marketing marketing that’s What it is. I’ll stick 💯 Whit my GIANT TCR RIM BRAKE BIKE.👌🏻💪🏻🚴🏻♂️
Nice review, horrible bike. It's not really that aero because of disc brakes and big gap between downtube and front wheel. But that's nothing compared to questionable handlebar construction. What I hate about Canyon is they messing with headset. Every technical solution they create make it worse. And that awful gap between fork and frame already become a trademark. For some reason, Canyon engineers trying to destroy headset bearings in any possible way... I would say, my cheap aluminium bike done much better.
@@jameshuang4205 Well, 100% is an exaggeration, but this zone does have a significant impact on performance. Smooth transition and tight gap is the key.
@James Huang By law of physics that say that air trapped in empty zone swirling and create drag. Here's wiki: "Form drag Form drag or pressure drag arises because of the shape of the object. The general size and shape of the body are the most important factors in form drag; bodies with a larger presented cross-section will have a higher drag than thinner bodies; sleek ("streamlined") objects have lower form drag. Form drag follows the drag equation, meaning that it increases with velocity, and thus becomes more important for high-speed aircraft. Form drag depends on the longitudinal section of the body. A prudent choice of body profile is essential for a low drag coefficient. Streamlines should be continuous, and separation of the boundary layer with its attendant vortices should be avoided." In case of this bike, we see relatively big gap in frontal area and wide tires. That's why (according to previous statement) aerodynamic efficiency is questionable.
@@dioright That may be the case for airplanes, but it's been determined for some time now that the shapes that work best at those higher speeds aren't necessarily always the best for bikes. That's not to say you're incorrect, but I'd be wary of applying blanket statements from other usage cases.
This is the most comprehensive 'first ride / impressions' video I've seen. Even got past the marketing launch hyperbole.. Awesome job James.
best review on this bike, very detailed and approachable. Most reviewers focus so much on rehashing all the specs vs giving us a more personal review. It felt like a friend telling you how he likes his bike, instead of a salesman trying to sell you a bike.
James, as thorough a review of a new frameset on the market as I can remember...Top job! -P. Watson
RIP James' knees.. get that man a stool! .....great review though.
I have a Gen 2 I purchased a few months ago, identical spec to this one. I decided not to wait for this because of the revised geo. I liked how low I could get with those reach/stack numbers. Great bike coming off a Pina F10, which was also a great bike, but I actually prefer the Canyon.
Yeah, Canyon clearly made the decision to target more of the mainstream market with the geometry revisions here. That's probably the right move in the grand scheme of things, but it will undoubtedly disappoint the minority of people for whom the old setup worked well. I personally am hoping Canyon will eventually release a set of drops with a more traditional bend and more aggressive reach and drop, but I'm not holding my breath.
Best review so far
Love this, love it! Great breakdown
Really a great review and initial impressions. I thought the cockpit design was awesome, especially for the adjustability, but the need for a special tool is a bummer. Sweet bike.
Great review!
Great review, but what's with the changes to side angle? Do you really think that viewers will become bored without it?
Great honest detailed review 👍
What's the minimum saddle height on this xs size before the seatpost bottom out on the clamp? I am 167cm/ 76 inseam and right between the 2xs and xs sizes.
Great review
Looks like Darth Vader's bike.
@6:47 Good discussion about the seat post. The design also means you cannot clamp the seatpost into a bike stand. You need either the Silca Hirobel or a BB-front-axle bike stand.
Is there a clip on aero bar that will fit on this model? Either on the aero profiled bar or on the stem?
"the competition is pretty stiff these days"
Ha! Bike stiffness pun!
That handlebar insert thing looks like prime Luescher Teknik opportunity...
And the rear “drop out” not much material around some parts of the thru axle there
@@rapidrick absolutely nothing there. Scary.
Another cracking review as usual, James. And where is this place that I can get free parking?
I agree with you on the front wheel depth. I have no idea why manufacturers can't figure out that heavier riders can control a deeper front wheel but lighter riders would appreciate a more shallow rim and not spec the same wheel across all sizes. I bet if they had someone who road an xs on the design team they'd have worked that out.
I've been riding different S Works Venge's since 2012 and just sold them to get this. This bike outshines them by miles! Price like James said for DI2 equivalent is $3K less expensive!!!
Faster than the venge?
Can this bike be good for me even though I'm just a newbie?
I love to go riding as fast as i can so is this bike compatible for me?
What about the wheels. According to my information there are not the latest generation of DT Swiss wheels. Question is when is Canyon doing a model change and is delivering the Aeroad with the new wheels?
BTW thanks for honest opinion!
What is the range of seat post adjustment. You mentioned that at some point is become soft? Thanks.
Great Great review. Congrats. Quick question. According to Canyon this geometry is more relax than previous one. Do you think it comes close from the ultimate? Could this bike serve not only as aerobike? Question from someone that can only afford one bike.
The new geometry is now closer to the Ultimate, but the Ultimate is still slightly more relaxed than the latest Aeroad. I guess the answer to your question depends on what exactly you want to use this "one bike" for, but I'd probably suggest taking a very close look at the stack and reach numbers for both the Ultimate and Aeroad models in your size and then go from there.
it'd be helpful it you told us just how tall you are...not just, "I'm not that short". If the sizing is a bit off what we're used to and Canyon being a direct to consumer brand; this is a CRITICAL data point for the community. Excellent review by the way. Love the details and weights.
I'm 1.73m (5' 8"). Good point about the sizing, but that's perhaps a topic for a more in-depth discussion. So-called "T-shirt" sizing setups have always varied more among different companies than it should. I ride a XS in Canyon, but a small in many other brands, and a medium in others. Ultimately, what everyone needs to do is to look at the actual geometry figures.
@@jameshuang4205 Do you think the 32mm GP5000TL would fit on the back?
@@jameshuang4205 sorry to get too personal but may I have your inseam please? And 5.8 isn’t that taller than 173 cm? I’m looking at getting an aeroad and at 175,5 cm and an inseam of roughly 85 cm Canyon is advising me to go for a size S. A frame size I’m familiar with as I’ve owned a couple of canyons before but I’ve always felt that they are a little long in the reach. Anyways, have a great day!
@@MrHenryhalm I don't know my inseam off the top of my head, but my saddle height is about 693 mm if that's helpful. I have relatively short legs for my height.
@@jameshuang4205 Thank you! Does 693 mean you’ve maxed out the seat height for a xs? Great review!
Handlebar width has never been an issue for most of us. Stem length however...
Would a 32mm gp5000tl fit on the back?
@CyclingTips Hi James. Please, can you tell me what´s the size of the frame on the video and your height? Just to have an idea. thank you very much. Great review!!!
@CyclingTips was curious about same thing? Size of bike in vid?
@@hlf1214 min 4:47 : Size XS and I calculate whit autocad that the sadle altitude is 68,20cm
Thanks Ander, I also have the same questions, I am 5'8" with a 30" inseam, according to Canyon I should order a Xsmall. I am very curious what an xsmall build looks like
Thank you James! This is by far the best review out there. You mentioned that the bike ran big which really caught my attention. I'm curious to know your height and how you felt on the XS. I'm 174cm with 77cm inseam. I fall between the XS and S.. Wondering which direction to go.
Go to the canyon site and check what they suggest. 176, 82 here and it is an S. Usually you go for the smaller size, means XS for you.
@@floridrummer88 Thank you! It seems like majority is telling me to go with the XS according to my measurements.
My next bike!!!!
If can I only
Have one bike for regular rides , may be dona local race some times , can this be the only
Bike do it all for a regular guy that use it for exercise and pleasure rides?
Stiff frame, stiff competition, what else is stiff? Yes, James' knees :D
12 yards long, 2 lanes wide,
65 tons of American Pride!
Canyon Aeroad! Canyon Aeroad!
Made in China says trump tho
Eh, American what now? It’s German, right?
@@Wi11yBoy It's made by Quest Composites in China. Design and 3D Model may happen in Germany, but she ain't German.
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Great review. I am same height and so knowing you got a XS helps. Did the stock stem length work for you or did you swap it out for a longer one?
what is your height?
what's your height? And did Canyon site recommended that size? I'm 180cm with 80cm inseam. Size suggested is an S.
@@bmmaia81 I'm 173cm and 76.2cm inseam, Canyon suggested size xsmall for me. I would also love to know if the stock stems fit, my stem is 90mm but I feel like 80mm would fit better
@@jasonchow5954 ordered the S, but delivery only in March
The Aeroad is KOM a hunting beast. Light, comfortable, FAST. Ready to go out of the box with top-spec wheels (DTSwiss 65mm) and tires (GP5000)... except it ships with el-cheapo butyl inner tubes. Change out immediately! The rear butyl tube in mine blew a seam at 80 psi; I've never seen a tube blow a seam before. Oh well, install latex tube and forget about it.
Have an old carbon synapse guess this would be a mega upgrade!
Hello, I would like to know who would encourage me to choose my best size in the canyon aero CF SLX 8 Di2, I am 1.75 cm inseam 80 cm, according to the test of my position I have a size 52 bike, and I want to know in cayon a 52 is : XS or S I need your help and the best advice before buying it, which of the two sizes based on my measurements would be better and more comfortable on the bike with XS or SMALL???
Small (S)
Is there any disc bike size small under 7kg? If I was to spend that much amount on a bike I want it to be under 7kg. How much aero a frame is I cannot tell but I can definitely feel it on the climbs if it's lighter.
s works tarmac
Look at Canyon Ultimate bikes. They are really light! When it comes to aerobike, ur most likely going to get a hit in weight.
The new handlebar design is cool. That's pretty smart. The rest is just expected tiny marginal gains.
Aero road bikes are already awfully good, so I'd be surprised to see any huge leaps forward until the UCI rule changes go into effect. Even then, though, engineers will still want to balance other characteristics like weight and ride quality, which will be increasingly difficult with more aggressive tube cross-sections.
Indeed. We're in a period of innovation stall and we're suffering from sameness everywhere. Things are getting rather boring, no?
I'm ready for the width-expandable hover bar next
@@AJHillis That would be a more complicated application, of course, but I'm looking forward to Canyon implementing this design over a wider range of products, no question.
I'm by no means an expert but it's said that wheels are more important than the frame, no?
Yea I dislike the old DT Swiss wheelset that comes with the new 2021 Areo...but Canyon did say that they'll update them to the new DT's in early 2021
Hopefully it will be kitted out with the next gen Di2 as well
Couldn't agree more with both of you. Wider internal widths on the wheels, wireless Di2 and I'm placing the order.
Do you can tell me what exactly is coming new? Which exact wheels and whats about "next gen Di2?"
@@georgpollath6812 These new DT wheels -www.bikeradar.com/news/dt-swiss-arc-dicut-1100-1400/
For the wireless Di2 on the other hand, Shimano hasn't revealed them yet, but there has been leaks from professionals using them.
@@KenChiwo thank you for taking time to änswer me :) I Wish you a nice week
Is this CFR or slx model? Thank you
Can this be used as a track bike?
That bottle cage looks tidy and neat. What is it?
It's from Canyon: www.canyon.com/en-us/gear/accessories/bottle-cages-and-bottles/bottle-cages/canyon-sf-bottle-cage/9100091.html?dwvar_9100091_pv_farbe=BK%2FWH
@@jameshuang4205 It looks like it but I don't thing they are the same. Maybe a newer version?
Mejaymz Yes, there is a new carbon version, you should be able to find it on the Canyon website aswell.
Stupid question to everyone commenting here. How accurate is Canyon sizing tab ? I’m 6 feet tall with 34 inch inseam and it is suggesting a size MED. Just want to get feedback from you all before making such a big purchase.
which size should i get im 1,88m
The real question if you are thinking aero bike do you buy a new one...or find a used gen 2?
yeah the one with the defunct seat post
What size should I get if I am 5’9
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Amazing bike I have the 2021 cannondale systemsix ultegra carbon
Jesus james, get fucking excited mate! Still, best review out there atm and not just useless presspack regurgitation.
I've been homeschooling a 7yo since mid-March. Any ounce of extra excitement was lost from my body some time ago.
Now, it's nice. But the stem, or something, if you guys know what I mean. Too small for me! Still love the old gen.
I’m 6’4 am I too big for the bike?
I hate Cannyon engineers!! They made a fantastic bike that whould easily be my favourite yet... they just destroyed my lust when I saw the press fit bb. And worst when I saw that I whould have to dismount that bb every time I whould need to access the Di2 battery! It's just that I'm allready a Di2 user and allthough I like Etap I don't want to change everything now and in my opinion this bike is only viable in Etap configuration or if you are a pro with a team of mechanics (wich must hate this also). The thing is that it happened allready to me twice having the battery twice completly dead. The second time I allready had a spare one and in a few minutes I was riding. With this bike I recomemd that ypu buy the press fit tool and good luck
Handlebar design benefits Canyon more than the consumer. Most experienced riders know what bar width they like and rarely change it... it's the stem length that most people experiment with, especially on a new bike, and that's sadly what's not adjustable.
I ride 120mm stem with 38cm bar width. Try to find that on a integrated one. Its impossible.
@@raphaeltiziani7476 What is the stack/reach of your current frame? You run a 120 on that setup, not a blanket statement 120 length like your preference to 38 bars. We could also get technical on reach, drop, and flare measurements too...often omitted from the literature.
I'd wager most brands do make a 120/38 (and other odd sizes) to suit the desires of their sponsored riders, they just choose not to make them publicly available.
@@cup_and_cone Most of the time in those cases, sponsors just let riders run a third-party, non-integrated bar and stem.
You're perhaps not incorrect there, although I'd argue that there is still a benefit to the consumer in the sense that this makes it more likely that buyers will be able to get a stem length and handlebar width that they want.
James Huang How solid do the handlebars feel? I’d be worried about 75-85kg sprinters ripping those things up with 30-second sprints over 1000 watt with peaks around 1600-2000.
What’s your hight?
How can most of the reviewers say, that it is noticable faster, if we just talk about a little few watts (maybe 4-5W less as mentioned) at 45km/h. Seems more that it "feels" fast than it is really is?! Is there someone who can explain me that? #no front
It's to get you to buy their stuff.
Great Quality Road Bike For The Price.
Why oh why would you not deliver a rim brake option, it would be lighter and more aero.
@1:25 you can already see the wear from the seat post rubbing on the frame!!!
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Anyone else have seat post creaking issues with their Aeroad?
One point of critic : The lenght of the seatpost, for a biker with longer legs it won't fit . 2XL for > 196 the said, I am 193 and it won't fit.
3 cm extra will suit more riders.
Will it be orange version ?
love the 15mm spacer limit, no more seeing ppl riding aero bikes with 40mm+ spacer towers
So Specialized think a wider wheel out front is aero. Canon at the back. Clear as mud.
I think Specialized is going for stability.
It's exxtreemely similar to the SystemSix
or venge or merida or... it’s a long list. they all look the same.
Early comment - great handlebar design that makes it real easy to pack for transport.
Almost final comment - this will be real hard to pack up to send back to Canyon..... :-)
Bit of a heavyweight vs the Tarmac SL7
only tarmac isn't aero bike so you're comparing apples and oranges ---- if you want apples and apples canyon ultimate CF evo Disc 10. SL is 650 g lighter then Tarmac SL 7 ... and 3 to 4 k cheaper ....
@书中自有黄金屋 Tarmac replaced the Venge which was one of the best aero bikes - this would not have happened if the new Tarmac wasn't at least as aero as the venge.
@@boogiexx why do you say Tarmac is not aero??? Must be equal or more aero than the Venge which it has now replaced.
@@boogiexx if you want a cheap bike then go to Decathlon)))))
10 mm or 10 cm?
In reference to what?
@@jameshuang4205 hello, sorry for the short message. I meant to refer to the position of the seat post clamp.
hope all those anticipating seat failure get a new frame or ask a judge for one. That disaster in QC should have never passed engineering 101...
Telling consumers how fast the bike without the rider is deceptive af bordering on junk science. It’s a dope bike & believe in the newest carbon tech etc. but they don’t have to stretch the marketing that far. It’s a matter of the fastest athletes on the planet taking these bikes to the next level with their natural human ability. Soon come.
Can't wait till some Chinese company copies this design so I can finally afford it
Lol
wheel change to zipp 454 will bebetter
If you want a rimbrake version you can get one, but you'll need to get the cheapest of the lower tier SL models....
That's the previous generation you're looking at, this generation is Disc only.
@@gertjanaertgeerts OK -thanks I just went to see if I could afford one and saw rim brakes at my pricepoint... Oh well...
To hold 45 kph I need to be pushing north of 400W, so the aero savings are around 1% vs my current Aeroad. If I was that desperate for Watts I'd wear a roadsuit, Further, why is more stiffer better? There's essentially no energy loss due to frame flex because the twisting motion of the BB is all returned into the chain - the right amount of stiffness for a bike is largely personal preference and frankly speaking, the contradiction of stiffer frame (but also more compliant), more aero frame (but also wider front tire) is just a messy set of contradictions.
How are we not getting 5kg mass production bike, if every new bike is supposed to be lighter, faster and stiffer year by year... something must be wrong with the numbers or it's all a dream...
Very nice bike. Boring colors though. I wish Alexander Kristoff still rode Canyon. I bet MvdP gonna win a bunch of races on this model.
Clueless review -- the stem height is adjustable. That's the reason for the proprietary design.
That bike is the sexist road bike I have ever seen.
It’s crazy stealth
...and we all ride in wind tunnels...
Obviously not, but it's the best way to get truly comparable and reliable data.
Canyon really missed the mark on the geometry. WHY the hell did they spec a 73,5° seat tube angle for an XS and 2XS frames???!! Should be greater than 75° for people with shorter femurs. Thumbs down to Canyon.
I wish the same, it's not ideal to have to slam the saddle all the way forward, and doesn't look good either :-(
Tool is nightmare. Who wants to take that on thier ride every time? Adds weight to what they claim the weight was. Basically a race bike only.
How often do you adjust the headset preloading on your rides? I've never ever done it, never heard of anyone else done it...so why would you feel the need to bring that tool with you?
@@Jeppelelle in case it comes loose on bumpy roads. Dont want to be stranded
@@nationsnumber1chump How often does your headset come loose on your current bike?
Rip canyon aeroroad lol their seatpost made them make canyon cfr and cf go offsale 🤡
NO THANKS BRUH! I mean this bike look like shit... heavy and very slugish looking bike... disc brake bike🤮 marketing marketing marketing that’s What it is. I’ll stick 💯 Whit my GIANT TCR RIM BRAKE BIKE.👌🏻💪🏻🚴🏻♂️
Nice review, horrible bike. It's not really that aero because of disc brakes and big gap between downtube and front wheel.
But that's nothing compared to questionable handlebar construction. What I hate about Canyon is they messing with headset. Every technical solution they create make it worse. And that awful gap between fork and frame already become a trademark. For some reason, Canyon engineers trying to destroy headset bearings in any possible way...
I would say, my cheap aluminium bike done much better.
Is there definitive agreement that aerodynamic efficiency is 100% tied to the gap between the down tube and the front wheel?
@@jameshuang4205 Well, 100% is an exaggeration, but this zone does have a significant impact on performance. Smooth transition and tight gap is the key.
@James Huang By law of physics that say that air trapped in empty zone swirling and create drag. Here's wiki:
"Form drag
Form drag or pressure drag arises because of the shape of the object. The general size and shape of the body are the most important factors in form drag; bodies with a larger presented cross-section will have a higher drag than thinner bodies; sleek ("streamlined") objects have lower form drag. Form drag follows the drag equation, meaning that it increases with velocity, and thus becomes more important for high-speed aircraft.
Form drag depends on the longitudinal section of the body. A prudent choice of body profile is essential for a low drag coefficient. Streamlines should be continuous, and separation of the boundary layer with its attendant vortices should be avoided."
In case of this bike, we see relatively big gap in frontal area and wide tires. That's why (according to previous statement) aerodynamic efficiency is questionable.
@@dioright That may be the case for airplanes, but it's been determined for some time now that the shapes that work best at those higher speeds aren't necessarily always the best for bikes. That's not to say you're incorrect, but I'd be wary of applying blanket statements from other usage cases.
we should stop using the words a bike is faster than the other. Instead say, it has less drag.
Great review