Great videos. Sold me on the boat and Hangkai engines. Just picked up the Costco boat yesterday for $279! They’ve marked down from $499 a few weeks ago. 18hp engine in the way
@@seanstefan9307 guys, I envy you so much...this boat, which is basically a bestway, is NOT available anywhere here in europe!! The cheapest comparable boat you can find is priced at 1200 € (like 1300 USD)...THAT'S CRAZY!!!
I reached 19mph on a 8ft walkerbay with a 8hp which was very scary as its designed as sailboat or 2hp... and them the transom cracked after a couple runs with my friend
would you be able to do some testing on aftermarket props that would deliver a higher top end speed with the 18? seems like it has a really nice acceleration maybe almost too much where you could change the pitch of the prop for better top speed. nice video! saw y'all pick up the costco boat and how cheap it was i now have myself and 3 other friends that are all going to buy one and put hangkais on them.
I bought the 6 hp hangkai a few years back great little reliable motor... I imagine that the 12 and 18 are just as reliable. If your on the fence, I highly recommend them..Simple two strokes, lighter and more reliable than the new 4 strokes.
I see a new 8hp mercury and comparing it to my 96 8hp, it's alot more complicated in every way, it's fatter, heavier, and probably slower. I couldn't care less about it being quieter.
is is a long or short shaft. because I have a 9.9 mercury and I can't get mine to plane. Well I can but only for a few seconds and then my prop starts spinning like crazy and I lose power. I sounds just like if the prop is out of water. I brought my prop to the dealer and they said it was ok and no slippage. Don't know what to do anymore. People with trolling electric motors can go faster than my 9.9 hp because I can't give it any throttle.
@@j.wright5918Not flipping over. Can confirm I put a merc 25 horse 2 stroke on my boat. It takes a little to plane and rises up high but it planes out. Might have to lean forwards a bit.
The 6.0 HP and up water cooled Hangkai motors all have prop exhaust. The 12hp is quieter than than the 6.0, but the 18hp is almost as quiet as a 4 stroke at idle.
In my opinion if you have any additional cost for the higher horsepower engines the six horsepower does the job 5 miles an hour or two probably double the engine cost doesn't make sense and quite frankly it's not like it's a hard bottom rip that boat is going to be very skittish in any kind of wake. Keep in mind in the videos the water was virtually flat also the transom should have a rating for the maximum horsepower you don't want to be fatiguing the back of the boat like that. Remember this is not a zodiac that you can beat up
HAY GUYS, WICKED COOL VIDEO. ALSO, I LIKE THE MOTER ARRANGEMENT. I SUPPOSE ANY OLE ELECTRIC WILL MOUNT AS WELL??? HOW MUCH FOR THE 18 HORSE??? THANX FOR THIS DEMONSTRATION GUYS... STAY COOL... PEACE...
You can stand on it, but because of the keel in the center, the floor is not perfectly flat. If you plan on doing a lot of fishing or standing on the boat, Id recommend an inflatable with a hard floor. It will be more comfortable.
I have a 3.5 mercury on mine it will do 17 km/hr and the motor start coming out of the water and we start to fly 😂. I use a handle extender and sit up front
Be interesting to see what the 6hp would do with a speed prop. None of those engines are "working" as light as the boat is. I bet that 6hp could hit close to 40 if not over with the right prop.
Have you experimented with trim settings? I have the 12hp which gets on plane immediately with 1 person but I think needs to be trimmed up a few holes. Gets squirrely like in your video. Will a higher pitch make it handle better? With a second person (450lbs total) takes a bit to get on plane.
Great little boat took mine out yesterday I put a 9.9 mercury short shaft on it. I’m breaking in the motor and when I get to half throttle it starts to like cavitate? Any suggestions
I have the exactly same setup been running for 3 years. You need to sit inside the boat to balance the weight and use level 1 or 2 slots to properly align the outboard during plane mode. It will fly like crazy.
Have the same boat, using 6hp Tohatsu four stroke getting 16.8 mph (27km/h) when alone with no gear, no launching wheels and using internal tank. Consistently getting 16 mph with light gear, wheels and external tank... With small adult 57-60 kg and me 95 kg getting 13 mph (21km/h) ... You sure your GPS is ok as you alone was getting only 13 mph alone? Usually two stoke has better performance then 4 stoke. I guess no need for me to upgrade to 9.8 hp if you hitting only few miles more then my 6hp... yet my outboard is very noisy and vibrates a lot due to 1 cylinder and when it really loaded its slow :(
I would recommend upgrading for 2 reasons: 1. Vibration - so much less vibration on the bigger motors. 2. Speed - Even though it only gets a little more speed with just 1 pewrson, the bigger motor will plane with 2 people (or a lot of gear). When you put 2 people on the boat with the 6, your speed will cut in half because you can't get on plane.
@@danielfrazier840I think the speeds are low because these are actually 4hp, 9.8hp and 15hp engines with #6, #12 and #18 stickers on the hood. Hangkai 12 is a clone of 2stroke tohatsu M9.8b , and 18 is a clone of 2stroke yamaha 15f You can check internet and compare their specs
I've done it (no video). 200 lbs (operator and limited gear weight), tobin rips hard with a 6hp, easily plane and almost running full speed at 1/3rd throttle. With another adult and more gear (say 450 lbs in boat), goes ok, can get it to plane (may need to trim up 1 notch). With 600+lbs, it bogs down and is fairly slow and its hard to plane.
Bro, have you ever check your hangkai 18hp carburettor throttle plate openning, mine is not set to 100%open when you twist the throttle handle to 100%. I am not sure about the original propeller size in the US, my original prop size is pitch 9.
If pitch 9 with adjusted 100% openning carb throttle plate and one person in you empty boat, the rpm will be over the limit of 5500rpm, you must change prop to pitch 10 to 11... You will gain top speed.
@@HufflerGarage There seems to be a bunch of feedback about the short shafts cavitating when throttled up. I spoke to someone locally experiencing the same thing. Is there a drawback to using a long shaft on this boat? I don't want to be disappointed because it's cavitating all the time. Thoughts?
Yep. The "12HP" is a copy of a Tohatsu M9.8B and the "18HP" is a copy of a Yamaha 15F. I doubt the Chinese got more horsepower out of a Japanese design which is why we trust the 18 on a boat that's only rated for a 15.
@@HufflerGarage And you can try adjusting the outboard trim to a different angle, you may be able to achieve a higher speed of over 20mph with Hangkai 12hp.I tested the speed of my Hidea 9.8hp with two people and fishing equipment, and it achieved 32km/h.
@HufflerGarage good point. Could you ever fish out of this? Or do you think the material is to thin? Damn, hopefully cosco has it in stock in the next three months
Hi Huffle, i just got a Tobin boat, i did install a 2006 15 hp four stroke Mercury motor, but when i did trothle down it suffer some cavitation, did you that problem with yours?
I got a short shaft and took it out today. Cavitating like crazy as soon as I throttle up. What am I doing wrong? Had my gf with me, had her sit front, mid and back with me. Did it in all situations. Frustrated. Prop totally catching a ton of air.
Still don't see a Registration number on this boat. I think I do see a life jacket. (That's good). In my state running a non registered power boat would get you a $25.00 ticket real quick. They won't talk about it either. You just get a ticket. (That is also another story). .
This month our state switched to processing new vessel registrations online so all you get is a 60 day temporary authorization number on a piece of paper you must carry with you. You don't receive your actual boat numbers to display until the application is processed.
Are you using a short shaft or a long shaft? I picked up the same boat from Costco and I want to get the 12 horse motor what length shaft will give better results
12 hp looks like the perfect match for that boat
I agree 👍
Especially if you have a passenger. That initial bow rise will go down a lot with another booty up there.
I freaking love this video man you met the perfect content for me
The hangkai 12hp while on the test run, the trim can be set higher by 2 to 3 holes, the hangkai 18hp too.
For just him.. put another full grown man it's gonna slow a bit
Great videos. Sold me on the boat and Hangkai engines. Just picked up the Costco boat yesterday for $279! They’ve marked down from $499 a few weeks ago. 18hp engine in the way
Man I paid 900 CDN in the spring, and that was still a decent price.
Where did you get it exactly?
When we first saw them in the spring down here they were about USD$700 and we were thinking about buying one then. USD$500 was a steal.
@@seanstefan9307 guys, I envy you so much...this boat, which is basically a bestway, is NOT available anywhere here in europe!! The cheapest comparable boat you can find is priced at 1200 € (like 1300 USD)...THAT'S CRAZY!!!
I think I'll return the one I bought last week. buy another cheaper
19.8 on a Costco dingy is wild. Great content guys!
I reached 19mph on a 8ft walkerbay with a 8hp which was very scary as its designed as sailboat or 2hp... and them the transom cracked after a couple runs with my friend
I bought the same size inflatable a “Zodiac” at twice the price 10 years ago and your boat looks just as good. Nice video. Thanks!
would you be able to do some testing on aftermarket props that would deliver a higher top end speed with the 18? seems like it has a really nice acceleration maybe almost too much where you could change the pitch of the prop for better top speed. nice video! saw y'all pick up the costco boat and how cheap it was i now have myself and 3 other friends that are all going to buy one and put hangkais on them.
Even the small 6 HP looks like it would be fun; however the 12 seems to do the job better.
I bought the 6 hp hangkai a few years back great little reliable motor... I imagine that the 12 and 18 are just as reliable. If your on the fence, I highly recommend them..Simple two strokes, lighter and more reliable than the new 4 strokes.
I see a new 8hp mercury and comparing it to my 96 8hp, it's alot more complicated in every way, it's fatter, heavier, and probably slower. I couldn't care less about it being quieter.
I have a 20hp on mine. We tube and tandem wakeboard behind it. Yeee haw!
Git-R-Done! Lol
is is a long or short shaft. because I have a 9.9 mercury and I can't get mine to plane. Well I can but only for a few seconds and then my prop starts spinning like crazy and I lose power. I sounds just like if the prop is out of water. I brought my prop to the dealer and they said it was ok and no slippage. Don't know what to do anymore. People with trolling electric motors can go faster than my 9.9 hp because I can't give it any throttle.
Hell yes. Thank you
that looks fun regardless of the motor !
Besides the great info, very nice video work.
Need more pitch on the propeller, especially with the 12 & 18 you could use the highest pitch available
Try mounting hydrofoil fins on the 12hp motor 💪
It’s already running 😜👍🍻🙃 looks like a nice set up
Nice video , thanks
Muchas gracias señor.
If you trimmed the outboards up I think you could definitely get some better performance
Yea, and might even flip over backwards if you don't have some weight in the front.
The 6 looked level but the others were tucked under
100% flipping over! Lol
@@j.wright5918Not flipping over. Can confirm I put a merc 25 horse 2 stroke on my boat. It takes a little to plane and rises up high but it planes out. Might have to lean forwards a bit.
with taking dogs what is the likelihood of punchering the boat? is the material pretty thick?
It's fairly thick. I don't think it would get punctured, but we have 3 labs so we will definitely give it a dog test soon.
ohh that's awesome! lol forward to the new video. Thanks for replying. From Ontario Canada
Is that boat Puncture resistant? Or would it easily get ripped if you accidentally ran on a protruding mangrove branch?
WONDERING WHAT APP DID YOU USE ON YOUR PHONE FOR SPEED CHECK. THANKS
No
I was told the 12hp is the only model with prop exhaust. Is this true? Where is the 18hp exhaust? Does prop exhaust make it quieter on the 12hp?
The 6.0 HP and up water cooled Hangkai motors all have prop exhaust. The 12hp is quieter than than the 6.0, but the 18hp is almost as quiet as a 4 stroke at idle.
I believe all the watercooled motors have prop exhaust. I have the little 3.6 and the exhaust is in the water
Question is the 3 motors you tested were they short shafts. Great review thank you
Yes. All 3 are short shaft.
In my opinion if you have any additional cost for the higher horsepower engines the six horsepower does the job 5 miles an hour or two probably double the engine cost doesn't make sense and quite frankly it's not like it's a hard bottom rip that boat is going to be very skittish in any kind of wake. Keep in mind in the videos the water was virtually flat also the transom should have a rating for the maximum horsepower you don't want to be fatiguing the back of the boat like that. Remember this is not a zodiac that you can beat up
The boat is rated up to 15 Hp.
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That was awesome. Im going to cosco
I feel like the 18hp would rip the transom out eventually.
It wont. Trust me
I want that motor that can start by just thinking about starting it...( psychic start )
Great video. How large is that lake?
Thanks for watching! The lake is 1,790 square miles.
@@HufflerGarage nice. Great video
As of March 31st 2024 Costco site doesn't list this boat for sale. At least I couldn't find it.
Available in stores only.
if you would incline towards you will be able to make it plane.
HAY GUYS, WICKED COOL VIDEO. ALSO, I LIKE THE MOTER ARRANGEMENT. I SUPPOSE ANY OLE ELECTRIC WILL MOUNT AS WELL??? HOW MUCH FOR THE 18 HORSE??? THANX FOR THIS DEMONSTRATION GUYS... STAY COOL... PEACE...
Thanks for watching! Electrics will mount up no problem. We bought the 18HP about a year ago for $1,800.
@@HufflerGarage, thanx guys, I like the idea of this platform. stay cool... peace...
Hey brother, I was wondering if you could actually stand on the boat while fishing? Thank you,
You can stand on it, but because of the keel in the center, the floor is not perfectly flat. If you plan on doing a lot of fishing or standing on the boat, Id recommend an inflatable with a hard floor. It will be more comfortable.
@@HufflerGarage thankx brother🤘
Just add plywood to stiffen the floor. Because it ain't a flat floor you may need to use stiberfoam underneath the plywood to shape floor better.
Thanks for the comparison
I have a 3.5 mercury on mine it will do 17 km/hr and the motor start coming out of the water and we start to fly 😂. I use a handle extender and sit up front
Be interesting to see what the 6hp would do with a speed prop. None of those engines are "working" as light as the boat is. I bet that 6hp could hit close to 40 if not over with the right prop.
That 18 needs way more pitch in the prop and probably leaned up on the main jet some and itll probably rip 30 35😂😂😂
Thanks for more great info. Do you think the Tobin or Bris boats are tough enough to carry on a sailboat? Also what lake are you guys using?
as with any inflatable boat kept outside get you a good full cover for it, best if kept upside down on the deck to.
Have you experimented with trim settings? I have the 12hp which gets on plane immediately with 1 person but I think needs to be trimmed up a few holes. Gets squirrely like in your video. Will a higher pitch make it handle better? With a second person (450lbs total) takes a bit to get on plane.
For your pump how did you get the adapter that actually fit that boat
Put a 2nd person on the front seat and I'll bet it's alot slower and won't get on plane.
Great little boat took mine out yesterday I put a 9.9 mercury short shaft on it. I’m breaking in the motor and when I get to half throttle it starts to like cavitate? Any suggestions
I have the exactly same setup been running for 3 years. You need to sit inside the boat to balance the weight and use level 1 or 2 slots to properly align the outboard during plane mode. It will fly like crazy.
Thank you for that info
Did u add motor yourself or was it included 3:34
Have the same boat, using 6hp Tohatsu four stroke getting 16.8 mph (27km/h) when alone with no gear, no launching wheels and using internal tank. Consistently getting 16 mph with light gear, wheels and external tank...
With small adult 57-60 kg and me 95 kg getting 13 mph (21km/h) ...
You sure your GPS is ok as you alone was getting only 13 mph alone? Usually two stoke has better performance then 4 stoke.
I guess no need for me to upgrade to 9.8 hp if you hitting only few miles more then my 6hp... yet my outboard is very noisy and vibrates a lot due to 1 cylinder and when it really loaded its
slow :(
I would recommend upgrading for 2 reasons:
1. Vibration - so much less vibration on the bigger motors.
2. Speed - Even though it only gets a little more speed with just 1 pewrson, the bigger motor will plane with 2 people (or a lot of gear). When you put 2 people on the boat with the 6, your speed will cut in half because you can't get on plane.
The speed is slow bc the prop dosent have enough pitch
@@danielfrazier840 How did you guess that the prop does not have the ideal pitch without looking at it?
@@danielfrazier840I think the speeds are low because these are actually 4hp, 9.8hp and 15hp engines with #6, #12 and #18 stickers on the hood.
Hangkai 12 is a clone of 2stroke tohatsu M9.8b , and 18 is a clone of 2stroke yamaha 15f
You can check internet and compare their specs
What if I fish in it and have a 30lb catfish on the line? How the boat will hold up?
Are the engines 2 stroke or 4 stroke and are they air or water cooled ?
never heard of that kind of motor before...
is it possible to get plane with a yamaha 4hp 2 stroke? thanks
Awesome videos man. Can you do a test with more load 300-350 lb load.
Absolutely. We plan to do some more testing and make a review video so stay tuned!
I've done it (no video). 200 lbs (operator and limited gear weight), tobin rips hard with a 6hp, easily plane and almost running full speed at 1/3rd throttle. With another adult and more gear (say 450 lbs in boat), goes ok, can get it to plane (may need to trim up 1 notch). With 600+lbs, it bogs down and is fairly slow and its hard to plane.
Bro, have you ever check your hangkai 18hp carburettor throttle plate openning, mine is not set to 100%open when you twist the throttle handle to 100%. I am not sure about the original propeller size in the US, my original prop size is pitch 9.
If pitch 9 with adjusted 100% openning carb throttle plate and one person in you empty boat, the rpm will be over the limit of 5500rpm, you must change prop to pitch 10 to 11... You will gain top speed.
If I buy one of these do I gotta have a boat license?
What is the 6.0 HP a clone of? Yamaha 4 D 103CC? Or the Tohatsu M5B 102CC?
It's a copy of the Tohatsu.
12 hp needs trimmed up about a 1/2 mile
Can some one provide me with a link to buy the Tobin boat ?
costco
Are all the motors u using short shafts or long shafts ?
They're all short shafts.
@@HufflerGarage There seems to be a bunch of feedback about the short shafts cavitating when throttled up. I spoke to someone locally experiencing the same thing. Is there a drawback to using a long shaft on this boat? I don't want to be disappointed because it's cavitating all the time. Thoughts?
Should I buy the boat?
Hangkai does not accurately mark their horsepower. For example, their 12hp model is only 9.8hp, and their 18hp model is only 15hp.
Yep. The "12HP" is a copy of a Tohatsu M9.8B and the "18HP" is a copy of a Yamaha 15F. I doubt the Chinese got more horsepower out of a Japanese design which is why we trust the 18 on a boat that's only rated for a 15.
@@HufflerGarage And you can try adjusting the outboard trim to a different angle, you may be able to achieve a higher speed of over 20mph with Hangkai 12hp.I tested the speed of my Hidea 9.8hp with two people and fishing equipment, and it achieved 32km/h.
What PSI have you got the keel and air deck at?
The keel and boat chambers are 3.5 PSI and the air deck is 5 PSI.
My Johnson 4hp twin should be ok with that?
This boat can fit up to a 15hp so yours should fit no problem.
Can you add another seat to the front?
I don't see a good way to put a mounted seat. There might be enough room to put a small marine beanbag chair up in the bow.
@HufflerGarage good point. Could you ever fish out of this? Or do you think the material is to thin? Damn, hopefully cosco has it in stock in the next three months
Hi Huffle, i just got a Tobin boat, i did install a 2006 15 hp four stroke Mercury motor, but when i did trothle down it suffer some cavitation, did you that problem with yours?
I just spoke to a guy who said he's experiencing the same thing. Wondering if a Long Shaft would work better.
You cant use long shaft. Its to deep for prop@dukeboy72
I got a short shaft and took it out today. Cavitating like crazy as soon as I throttle up. What am I doing wrong? Had my gf with me, had her sit front, mid and back with me. Did it in all situations. Frustrated. Prop totally catching a ton of air.
Still don't see a Registration number on this boat. I think I do see a life jacket. (That's good). In my state running a non registered power boat would get you a $25.00 ticket real quick. They won't talk about it either. You just get a ticket. (That is also another story). .
This month our state switched to processing new vessel registrations online so all you get is a 60 day temporary authorization number on a piece of paper you must carry with you. You don't receive your actual boat numbers to display until the application is processed.
@HufflerGarage does the inflatable include the MSO to register?
Do cosco still do thay boats mate
Not currently, but they usually come back every spring.
I would love to become a tester for the company because I would tester out of it.John E.May
Are you using a short shaft or a long shaft? I picked up the same boat from Costco and I want to get the 12 horse motor what length shaft will give better results
I am wondering the same cuz I put a 9.8Hp short but it seems like it does not stay in the water at high speeds
All of the motors we used are short shaft.
Moi j'ai un 15 hp et je mon a 27 km
With my luck the front will raise all the way up and I'll fall in the water and a shark will eat me up. I'll pass 😂😂😂
No cut-out tether......how stupid......
Do they make jet style outboard engines yet? Without props?
Yes they do they're called "jet drive" outboards and they're available from most of the outboard manufacturers.
For river boating
Personally I’d rather buy a canoe 🛶.
Different strokes for different boats.