Shadowrun Sixth World | Character Creation Tutorial | Two D Ten
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- This week, I return to Shadowrun to bring you a new Character Creation Tutorial! Shadowrun is a game I've always found fun and challenging, and I hope this tutorial can help you play the game as well!
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Ok I got some feedback. 1- Production value: *chef's kiss* so good. Really, really good.
2- Presentation - I like how you reference page numbers often. You use beginner-friendly language, and are mindful not to go above your viewers' heads.
3- Curious why you went from attributes to skills and then back to adjustment points instead of doing attributes, adjustment, then skills-?
4- You really should be referencing the latest copy of the rules that were published in Feb 2020. I can tell from the paragraph on Adept Power Points at 11:20 that it's not the latest. If you did that for the sake of accessibility, because new people probably have hard copies without those changes, I understand.
5- I think the 'official' line is that initiation is not allowed at chargen so thank you for adding that caveat when you covered it.
6- The Finishing Touches list at 16:54 and beyond would have been better presented in the context of filling out lines on the character sheet, like you did for attributes and skills, instead of slide after slide of text.
Probably the best 6e char creation video on youtube
Thank you for your comment. Here's a few replies:
1 - Uh, thank you so much!
2 - That's my goal. I always try to write these in a way new players or non-players will comprehend.
3 - I think my plan was to show adjustment point expenditures separate from initial expenditures because they were a source of confusion for me when I made my first characters. I felt like they should be explained clearly aside from magic, metatype, and attributes.
4 - Indeed. I made a choice to stick with the primary corebook only, and not include different material within the context of this video. I know the errata is out there, which is why I mentioned it, but I didn't want to get mired in various releases. Ease of access.
5 - Yeah, this is one of my issues with the SR6 line. Things are vague and rules tend to be buried in off-hand, casual chat. Plus, the GM and group are the final arbiters of what's allowed at the table.
6 - Thanks for mentioning. I made a creative choice on this one, and I'll try it the other way next time.
Glad you liked the video!
As to point 4 - with the insane number of basic errors in the book (Nowhere does it mention Resonance is limited by Essence) I should frankly get a free reprint copy. Early adopters got shafted.
Shadowrun unquestionably needed/needs a not only a character creation tutorial but it also a very condensed, focused, & organized 30-50 page splat-book that is just purely focused on character creation with minimal text-fluff.
Edit: Forgot to type this in "Thankyou for making this video."
I’m told that the new companion might have something like that. Still waiting on my copy.
@@TwoDTen , are you going to do a review on the new companion book?
Thanks for this. I'm deployed and some fellow soldiers and I picked this up to play... we were lost. Now I have a better idea. Great work.
Hi! I'm a first time GM for SR, and I'm going over book pages while I'm watching your video. Took it as a challenge to find a solid answer one way or the other when you said you don't see a place in the book where it says you can't take initiation at creation.
The advancement chart cost on page 68 indicates with an asterix, which traits can't be purchased at creations. Those are new spell and complex form. In other words, it explicitely says you CAN purchase initiation at creation. :)
Anyway, this video saved my life as a fledgling SR GM. Thanks!
this is absolute bananas. my d&d group wanted to try shadowrun and i've been trying to make a character for 2.5 hours. Why is this so convoluted?
Because it isn't a level system. Characters start out more powerful than the average person right at the start. So, it is kind of like making a 5th level character for your first time playing.
For a fast way take one of the archetypes and just move points around.
"you are a criminal". When criminals make the laws, honest men become outlaws.
Awesome video! Minor detail critique: when you spend karma during character generation, it gives allowance only for attributes, skills, qualities, and nuyen. Page 66, step 4, is where it doesn't say you can initiate during chargen.
Yeah, I've read that passage. However, there are several other passages in the book where the rules specifically state you can't do a thing, such as on page 65, under skills. "During character creation, skills can be purchased up to rank 6... Only one skill can be put at that maximum."
I am sure the explicit exclusion of Initiation and Submersion is accidental, but that's on the game creators and not the players reading the book. The fact that the passage you reference doesn't expressly state Initiation doesn't exclude it, in my opinion, because, well, it doesn't. It's either Karma or it's something else - like freebie points. If you aren't specific about rules, SR6 Devs, it opens the entire system up to interpretation and inference.
If I want magic of 7 and I have to initiate to do it, I have to spend 11 karma, just like it says in the Advancement Costs table. Right? Time and training aren't a factor for skills and attributes at character creation, so why should they be for initiation?
Anyways, I see your point and logically agree with you. However, the creators and developers of SR6 should have been more precise in their writing. And errata. And just about everything in this book.
@@TwoDTen There is no edition i ever heard of where SR devs were precise enough. Definitely not SR 5 , heard enough of complaints from the rest too.
Good stuff my dude…
Shadowrun was my first experience with rpg games and I still love it to this day.
I haven’t played since 2nd Edition from the frickin 90’s and this video reminded me of all the good times I had as a kid runnin the shadows with my friends.
Keep up the good work chummer 👍🏻
Thank you so much for giving my group a good starting reference for char gen. The presentation is fast and informative. I definitely appreciate the lack of long-winded explanations that are in so many videos (just the facts).
We were a bit confused and apprehensive about starting our first Shadowrun campaign. But this really helps!
From what I can tell, Initiation can’t be taken at creation with the rules as written. As the GM of my own SR6 game I decided it can be taken and also offered my players the Sum To 10 method of Priority selection. I believe more options makes for a better experience. Speaking of better experiences, I wish this video had been around a year ago when we started the game. It would have made everyone’s life better. Well done.
Thanks for this video! I've been playing Shadowrun since 1990, and still run 1e at old school friendly game conventions. Having owned every edition since first, I feel, and the majority of my players agree, that Shadowrun peaked in a rules+setting sense, with 2nd Edition. 3rd started splitting hairs with skills, 4th changed how dice work, and 5th and Sixth World tried to clean up rules, but fumbled, and the setting drifted so far from what it used to be.
And Anarchy? Great idea. Questionable execution.
I spent 2 weeks building my "Rigger-but-not-a-Rigger" character Beau (or: Mr. B as he's known) as my first character in SR5. He's literally just a Mechanic that loves Augmented Reality to control several drones and his suped up beast of an Ares Roadmaster haha. No Control Rig at all because I completely missed that part haha. He's an effective taxi and delivery driver, despite not being able to Jump In.
Edit upon rewatch...: If you gain Power Points equal to your magic rating but also take the Power Point Metamagic, wouldn't your Power Points equal 8 at that Initiation?
When the game first came out, a friend of mine bought it hoping to coax me into GMing a game. I read through the book and didn't like it at all. Mixing fantays and science fiction? HERESY! Plus, I was already a huge fan of Cyberpunk 2020, so didn't see the need for another such game.
I didn't so much mind the idea of elves and dwarves in a science fiction setting, but the idea that they somehow magically appeared out of nowhere, all of a sudden just made no sense to me. If it had been that they'd been here with us all along through history, that would have been acceptable. Of course now I understand that it was meant to be set in the same universe as Earthdawn, just far in the future, it sort of makes more sense. But now I have Numenera, so I can do all that and more.
I found this video very helpful. However as a new player I noticed 2 things you missed:
1. You forgot to mention movement, unless I missed that.
2. It would've been nice to also include calculations for other character types at the end of the video.
Perhaps an update soon, as soon as I am able. Thanks for the comment.
Yoo kick ass. I pretty much figured it out on my own through trial and error, internet research, and reading the book for about two days straight trying to make sure I was understanding it properly. Now I can crank out two to four characters for a new group in about an hour and a half or so. 6th edition gets way too much hate, I love it and so does my current tabletop group. Oh, and I make them all watch your videos to learn about the world. You're the best Shadowrun content creator please keep it up
Thanks, I really enjoyed the video!
Oof... if any game really could benefit from an official Savage Worlds conversion, I think Shadowrun is probably it. Liberate that awesome setting from that crunchy system. It did wonders for Rifts.
Thank you for this video!
Thanks for this video. One of these days I want to make a SURGE-Anthro character in Shadowrun.
This helps out, thank you!
Glad it helped!
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Thank you for this informative video, I now know exactly what to do. Don't touch this edition with a ten meter pole!
When I tried to create a character on my own, I got stuck after assigning priorities! So thank you so much for this video!
Thank you so much for the video, easy to follow and generally familiar as Ive played every previous edition of the game. Unfortunately it appears very similar to 5th ed. from the point of view of trying to find things easily but would love to play it regardless.
Great tutorial, it really helped us build our characters. By the way do you a magic tutorial (I'm working on a summoner and need to know more about how that magic works) and also do you have a tutorial on all the aspects of combat (attack, damage, etc...) Thanks!
Thank you. Just.... thank you.
You are awesome! I love your videos, very descriptive. Could you upload a video on how to make a Combat Mage Mystic Adept please? I haven't played Shadowrun since 1st edition 1989-90, I am now getting back into this because I love this game along with Vampire Masquerade. Top two greatest RPG ever! Please help, thank you! Keep up the great videos!
first step in making a shadowrun character play any other edition other then 6th
Thanks for this video, your timing is great! I just want to throw out that oftentimes, the example archetypes in the core book are not actually char gen legal. It was worse in 5th edition but its true in this edition as well. They also commission the art and then ask people to make characters based on the art, so sometimes they are a little wonky (5th ed had the somewhat notorious 'Troll Poser' combat mage).
Yeah, I’ve had some other comments related to the archetypes. However, all of them have changes in errata, so it is what it is. I’d let anyone sitting down at my table play them.
Shadowrun 6 is really fucky, but it’s the game we have.
Yeah, they're not too bad - like I said, much worse in 5e. The Core book's Street Sam had over 1 million nuyen spent.
Thank you for this, as a n00b-how would you suggest going about reading the book in order to learn the rules?
Same here back in high school
Is it Christmas already? Thx for the video. Last time I played was 3rd edition. It was fun but Incompletely went overboard with min maxing.. 2 weeks of tweaking to get a monster. :)
You’re welcome!
Thank you! Is there a good software for character creation in 6edition?
this is why I just use gurps and don't mess with the sr rules
Good vid man. I've been playing Shadowrun since the first edition. I'm 53 by the way. and being older, I like it a little simpler these days. I still play. But I use savage worlds Shadowrun. Weirdest and most fun game of shadow run. was when my group repossess a porn stars cybernetic penis because he was late on his payments. I was a female troll enforcer. Most fun battle. Going hand to hand with an APC and winning.
Thnx all the way from Aztlán. We're going to kick some Aztechnology a** on Friday.
Brilliant!
@@TwoDTen have you used Roll20 character sheets for this?
@@marianaitriago6299 A few months back, yes. The ones I found, at the time, were pretty solid.
Wiz trid, would run again.
So, like you mentioned in the trident, I LOVE the setting, plot, etc, for shadowrun, bit my.ppayers and I really found the rules to be too much (also, there was apparently some issues with catalyst not paying some people for their work, but that's really a side issue for each person to male decisions about on their own).
So,.my point was, don't know how you feel about savage worlds, but there's a conversion to SW system for shadowrun using the interface zero rules. If you like the system, I definitely recommend checking it out
Yes. The rules are... yes. lol. I've never used Savage Worlds, but I'll add it to my list of games to squish into my brain bowl.
I've also heard the issues you mention. I don't know specifics, but I'm not happy with that either. My hope is that the company will FitFO and pay their people. In the mean time, I'll keep trying to do my part to make the game a tiny bit more accessible!
What are the tables for Other metahuman races
Good video-one thing that confused me though- you said that you were putting 5 in agility but then you only had 5 on the sheet?
Could be I messed up. I’ll have to go back and watch the vid. It’s been a while since I recorded it.
@@TwoDTen I was just wondering because I thought maybe I missed something?
Anyhoo, thanks for replying.
@@stephenwilliams203 You're welcome. Sometimes I mess up. Sometimes I don't know it for months! lol
Is there a way to make vampires as player characters in 6th edition? I saw there were in 4th and 5th, but I'm not sure if there were any rules for it in 6th.
Not to my knowledge, currently, but I’ve not had the chance to read ALL the 6th edition material yet. I just picked up the Street Wyrd book (6th Ed magic) and there might be something in there. I’ll come back to this if I find something.
@@TwoDTen Thanks!
I never quite got how Adjustment Points were supposed to work. They are terribly poorly explained in the original print of the book. Like, do non-humans start with any of their special abilities? Are they all bought from this pool? Are you limited to those that 'make sense' for your metatype?
So... I have tried 4th edition twice, despaired at the character creation and ended up with characters I disliked.
I'd love to play Shadowrun but it just seems like that went way overboard with the mechanics and just seems like it would take far too long to learn then also get my DnD group to also learn the mechanics. Wish someone would create a Cyberpunk TTRPG like this but with the easy to learn mechanics of DnD 5e
Is there any way that you could possibly turn down the music a little bit so you are easier to hear over it and repost?
No.
@@TwoDTen Fair enough.
Character creation is the reason I can't get my friends to play it.
I hope this video can help. Let me know how it goes.
1) intro is to long
2) I'm mostly here for technical details and explanation of concepts. backstory of your character was nice, but I would rather have explanation of character archetypes.
3) Have you tried making your own video? Or, perhaps, reading the book?
@@TwoDTen Guess you like watching long intros then. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of time on my hands.
If I have problems understanding concepts, making a video myself would be useless. If you say the choices you made was because how video making goes... Would love to hear more honestly, I am curious.
Reading the book is also a long process, which is why I even went to youtube. Do you think that people who read the book would go watch a youtube video? I mean, I guess you do have charisma necessary to present, but video title is a bit misleading, you know? At least from my pov.
Please don't disregard my position as non valid. It really is a shame that Shadowrun is so niche that I couldn't find what I wanted. Didn't mean to be a dick, just naturally bad with words. Have a good time of day, peace.
you lost me by the 7 minute mark - this still makes no sense to me. thx for trying though